I love that you put the crew in the background! So many animatics make it seem like Odysseus and Eurylochus are alone, when the whole point was that Eurylochus was discrediting Odysseus in front of the crew. Love it!
I was just thinking the same thing! It's THE most important part and the reason the second part hits so hard, and it sets up the betrayal of the next song!
His hand on his swords when he's "talking in private" with him is such a nice detail and ties to Thunderbringer so well, the implied threat, he doesn't want to hurt him but he will make impossible choices if he must so he's basically asking Eurylochus to keep that in mind.
This is amazing! The fact that its mostly animated is impressive and I applaud your skill and effort! I like how you interpret Odysseus talking to his men about the fact that he did bring back 600 men from war alive, because he did! Then his talk with Eurylochus! *chef kiss* Because Odysseus is still a king and he has power, even if they're brother in arms. He can't lose the trust of his subjects so he is stern and a little commanding. Ugh! This so good! Keep it up!
Thank you so so much for this comment! It’s comments like these that inspire me to keep going and improve my craft as much as possible!!! Thank you so much for this and I really appreciate your insight!!
no cause this is acc the best vers of Luck Runs Out i've seen so far: 100% deserves more exposure. i feel like ppl sorta overlook this song as a whole and therefore the character of Eurylochus as well, but like holy moly this is actually awesome. the zoom ins and transitions make it look so cool on god
Odysseus was probably rolling his eyes when he said "thank you" lol. I can't stop imagining it. And in his mind: "Thank the gods this mf agreed with me for once."
I was already excited when Jen came out with theirs for this song a bit ago but now we have one that's almost fully animated too? The community is eating well thanks to you. Great job. It's interesting to see an almost threatening take on Odysseus at the end of the song too.
Awww thank you so much for this! The threatening Odysseus came from a passage in the Odyssey where, right after Eurylochus returns from Circe’s palace, Odysseus considers killing him on the spot! Thank you so so so so so much!
@@ditoob I love that! That's such a cool reference to have. I remember being fully onboard with him doing that at that point. Eurylochus in Epic is so far a lot more likeable than the one in the Odyssey, though I wonder how much inspiration Jorge is going to take from the Odyssey for how he'll be in act 2.
yayyy this is sick its crazy how you were able to keep whats pretty much just a back-and-forth convo engaging!! i also really like how you had the men kinda gather around/come closer to eurylochus as more of their backing vocals came in. it definitely highlighted that connection that can be easy to miss for viewers :))
This is by far the best animatic I’ve seen of this song. The animation is smooth, the expressions are much more fitting for the song and I like how you depicted Odysseus. I’ll be showing this version to everyone I’m introducing to the musical from now on.
Ahhhh! Another one! Let's keep it coming!😆 Love that you and the others who animated this had different portrayals on Odysseus and Eurylicus' private talk, it's like looking at different angles of it. Btw, is it already canon that Odysseus is the shortest of them all?😅
Odysseus being short is kinda a running joke in the epic fandom. Everyone animates him as shorter than everyone else anyway . Also, in the original odyssey by Homer, odyssey is described as shorter than than one of the shortest crew members. Jay in real life is also shorter than everyone else in the epic cast. So i guess you could say it’s cannon. It’s more like half cannon, half fannon and completely hilarious.
Thank you so much! While Eurylochus is depicted as black in this animation due to his actor, Armando Julian, being dark skinned, black people were found in ancient greece during the period the Odyssey/Iliad was taking place. Homer explicitly mentions the Ethiopians in his epics if I am not mistaken.
As for people who lived in Greece or at least were present at the time there is Memnon and his Ethiopians I believe who served in the Trojan War! Additionally, the Minoan Civilization of Crete had extensive trade with the Egyptians and other Africans, leading to some Greeks moving to Egypt or other parts of Africa and vice versa as early as Mycenean Greece (1700 b.C. I believe)
And even if there weren’t any black men in Greece it’s an artistic liberty. A lot of small details in epic aren’t entirely accurate and they don’t need to be. This is jays retelling and should not be considered the exact same as the original odyssey. Considering that eurlochus voice actor is darker skin it makes sense that he is animated as such. It is an agreed upon design in the epic community. I understand the desire for accuracy, but as this is a modern piece of art and an interpretation artistic liberties have been taken and that is expected and ok. I also did not no the Greeks had contact with African Americans, probably gonna look that up seems interesting.
I love that you put the crew in the background! So many animatics make it seem like Odysseus and Eurylochus are alone, when the whole point was that Eurylochus was discrediting Odysseus in front of the crew. Love it!
I’m glad that you enjoyed it! Thank you so much!!
I was just thinking the same thing! It's THE most important part and the reason the second part hits so hard, and it sets up the betrayal of the next song!
His hand on his swords when he's "talking in private" with him is such a nice detail and ties to Thunderbringer so well, the implied threat, he doesn't want to hurt him but he will make impossible choices if he must so he's basically asking Eurylochus to keep that in mind.
Thank you so much!
Well this is the objectively correct version
Haha thank you so so much! I really appreciate it :)
Him reaching for his sword is amazing and walking by Eurylichous I was in shock like 😮. Very amazing animatic!!!!
Thank you so much!!
This is amazing! The fact that its mostly animated is impressive and I applaud your skill and effort!
I like how you interpret Odysseus talking to his men about the fact that he did bring back 600 men from war alive, because he did! Then his talk with Eurylochus! *chef kiss* Because Odysseus is still a king and he has power, even if they're brother in arms. He can't lose the trust of his subjects so he is stern and a little commanding. Ugh! This so good! Keep it up!
Thank you so so much for this comment! It’s comments like these that inspire me to keep going and improve my craft as much as possible!!! Thank you so much for this and I really appreciate your insight!!
those who don't know what will happen in act 2: 🙁
those who know: 😭😭😭
hehehehe
no cause this is acc the best vers of Luck Runs Out i've seen so far: 100% deserves more exposure. i feel like ppl sorta overlook this song as a whole and therefore the character of Eurylochus as well, but like holy moly this is actually awesome. the zoom ins and transitions make it look so cool on god
Thank you so so much! I loved this song from the start and it’s reprise in Mutiny made me love it even more. I really appreciate this!
@@ditoobyou’re so awesome, one of my fav animators now. 😭🙏 I looove the style
Odysseus was probably rolling his eyes when he said "thank you" lol. I can't stop imagining it. And in his mind: "Thank the gods this mf agreed with me for once."
FOR REAL!
Bruh my sleep deprived ass thought that was leborn💀
lebron in the odyssey would be a fire collab
I was already excited when Jen came out with theirs for this song a bit ago but now we have one that's almost fully animated too? The community is eating well thanks to you. Great job.
It's interesting to see an almost threatening take on Odysseus at the end of the song too.
Awww thank you so much for this! The threatening Odysseus came from a passage in the Odyssey where, right after Eurylochus returns from Circe’s palace, Odysseus considers killing him on the spot!
Thank you so so so so so much!
@@ditoob I love that! That's such a cool reference to have.
I remember being fully onboard with him doing that at that point. Eurylochus in Epic is so far a lot more likeable than the one in the Odyssey, though I wonder how much inspiration Jorge is going to take from the Odyssey for how he'll be in act 2.
yayyy this is sick
its crazy how you were able to keep whats pretty much just a back-and-forth convo engaging!! i also really like how you had the men kinda gather around/come closer to eurylochus as more of their backing vocals came in. it definitely highlighted that connection that can be easy to miss for viewers :))
Thank you so so much for this! I really appreciate this!
Great animatic, love how fluid the animation parts are
THANK YOU!!!
This song NEEEDED a new animatic. Thank you
Thank YOU so so much!!
THIS HAS SO MUCH EFFORT PUT INTO IT, YEAHHHH! I’m sorry, I’m just excited to see something related to Luck Runs Out finally.
Thank you so so much for this, it means a lot. I’m glad that you enjoyed it so much!!!!
This is by far the best animatic I’ve seen of this song. The animation is smooth, the expressions are much more fitting for the song and I like how you depicted Odysseus. I’ll be showing this version to everyone I’m introducing to the musical from now on.
Thank you so much for this comment! I really appreciate it so so much. It is an absolute honor!
This was amazing cool how this song is getting more and more animatics
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
This is so well done!!!! I love it!!!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!!!!
Ahhhh! Another one! Let's keep it coming!😆 Love that you and the others who animated this had different portrayals on Odysseus and Eurylicus' private talk, it's like looking at different angles of it. Btw, is it already canon that Odysseus is the shortest of them all?😅
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I supposse he is a short king!!!
Odysseus being short is kinda a running joke in the epic fandom. Everyone animates him as shorter than everyone else anyway . Also, in the original odyssey by Homer, odyssey is described as shorter than than one of the shortest crew members. Jay in real life is also shorter than everyone else in the epic cast. So i guess you could say it’s cannon. It’s more like half cannon, half fannon and completely hilarious.
Definitely canon hahaha, in the Iliad Priam is shocked at how short Odysseus is HAHAHA
Odysseus being short is a running thing in Epic because the creator and the guy who sings Odysseus is shorter than the rest of the cast 😂
Not sure it's canon, but it is a canon event
Was that a flash forward to Calypso's island?
Nice catch! Yeah it is :D
nice animation but there werent any black men in greece back then the year was 1600ish b.c
Thank you so much!
While Eurylochus is depicted as black in this animation due to his actor, Armando Julian, being dark skinned, black people were found in ancient greece during the period the Odyssey/Iliad was taking place. Homer explicitly mentions the Ethiopians in his epics if I am not mistaken.
@@ditoob yeah i mean people that lived in greece also thx for repliying
As for people who lived in Greece or at least were present at the time there is Memnon and his Ethiopians I believe who served in the Trojan War! Additionally, the Minoan Civilization of Crete had extensive trade with the Egyptians and other Africans, leading to some Greeks moving to Egypt or other parts of Africa and vice versa as early as Mycenean Greece (1700 b.C. I believe)
@@ditoob cool!
And even if there weren’t any black men in Greece it’s an artistic liberty. A lot of small details in epic aren’t entirely accurate and they don’t need to be. This is jays retelling and should not be considered the exact same as the original odyssey. Considering that eurlochus voice actor is darker skin it makes sense that he is animated as such. It is an agreed upon design in the epic community. I understand the desire for accuracy, but as this is a modern piece of art and an interpretation artistic liberties have been taken and that is expected and ok. I also did not no the Greeks had contact with African Americans, probably gonna look that up seems interesting.