2012 Honda Odyssey Power Steering Rack Replacement
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- I had a strange issue with the power steering rack in my 2012 Honda Odyssey. It would ‘rattle’ in the steering column when going over bumps. I suspected a damaged power steering rack was the cause. The van had been in a collision before I purchased it and I think this is where the damage might have occurred.
This video is a step by step, fastener by fastener, account of how to replace a power steering rack in one of these Odysseys. I also cover inner tie rod replacement, rear engine mount removal, and bleeding the power steering system when you’re done with the work.
I hope you find the info helpful and entertaining!
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A classic RR with Eric The Car Guy on a friday ..Ahh takes me back! :D
Hmm. Så du tittar här.
This also took me back to the old Eric the car guy. These are my favorite videos.
literally been watching eric since i've been in middle school, I know crazy but now im actually a BMW tech and eric really was the one that inspired me so many years later to do so
Eric, because of you I brought my 2007 v6 accord back from the brink of death. Did everything you did to your 2008 Acura TL. Except 02 sensors and thermostat. Soon to come. You taught me everything. THANK YOU KIND SIR!!! I owe you more than you know.
I'm very happy to hear you were able to put my videos to use. Thank you for the comment!
Be interesting to see what loose/worn internals of the old rack cause noise transferring
to the steering column. I guess we'll see in a future video. Thanks for sharing.
Next week in fact. Thanks for the comment.
Wouldn't even do this on our Sienna w/o at least a QuickJack; any kind of lift makes this better. It always seems like "can't be too hard to replace [part]", then on a fractal learning path to really repair it and you realize it's the third part they put on the car at the factory. Much more fun to watch you, thanks!
Oh, and ratcheting wrenches really rock!
Stopping in to say hello. Nice job my friend. People have no idea the time involved with this type of editing. As usual you are on point. Have a blessed day Eric!
Thank you Paul! It's great to hear from you. It's been way too long. I hope you and family are well.
I hope people realize how long all these cuts take. I have done just a few and going through all the footage and making it look as good as Eric does is crazy time consuming.
Hey Eric just chiming in here,
I recently did the rack and pinion on my 01 cobra and tried to be slick and leave the inner and outer tie rods as an assembly to prevent having to get an alignment. NOPE. I had to get an alignment anyway and the angles were WAY off. So good on you for getting that followup alignment 👍
Love that THOR is still around putting work in
Oh man, a nightmare job for a guy in his driveway.
I would sell it and buy a sienna
Exactly.. this is why I don't replace steering mechanisms by myself (with the mmmmmmaybe exception to that being a Ford Panther; crown vic, grand marquis, marauder, town car)
@@FredTheLutinoCocatiel not immune to rack issues either, I got one and it's rack had to be replaced already #oof
Honda Accord is even worse to change. I am still debating if I should replace the rack n pinion.
@@pigyear88 I changed the rack in my 03 accord. I had the engine out already and it was still alot of trouble. I had to take most of the bolts out of the sub fram. Just leaving in the front 2 bolts to the sub frame but backing them out about a third of the way so I could move the back of the sub fram down just enough to get that awkward bastard out. Laying on the floor upside down under the steering column to disconnect it is alot of fun too. Itll make you back sore in a brand new way!!!! But yeah! Us men know how to get things done. "GITTER DONE MEN"! Good day sirs!
Hi Eric. Love this one. I got a 2015 Honda Odyssey and still going. But, it is good to have you back. Great to hear you took a break and totally understand what you went through. All of us are human and need time away from the same over and over and over. I agree with others that this content took us back to the good old days. Stay safe and dirty.
Thank you for that, but know that I only took a couple of months off. I've been posting videos regularly now for the past few years.
This video took more time and effort to make than perhaps any other video I've seen from ETCG. Thank you very much.
You need to watch more ETCG videos. 😉
You made me tired just watching you work. Awesome
Eric excellent video. No criticisms. Stay dirty stay well and thank you for sharing Artie ❤️
Needed a break from the pandemic and madness, thanks Eric. Stay safe.
Just stated working at Honda in Cincinnati earlier this year and l'm doing a steering rack on a 2012 pilot tomorrow. First time doing one on that body style and you just saved me so much time. Honda directions told me to do what you did, but while removing a dozen extra components and to use a engine support and a subframe jack... So thank you so much for the great content.
This is what we love to see! A full-on nuts and bolts, no holds barred Eric The Car Guy repair video. Not sure whether it's the shop lighting, but these videos always have the sharpest picture quality - still the best on UA-cam. Long live ETCG!
Thank you! Before I became a UA-camr I had my own video production company. I try to bring those skills to every video I make. Thank you for noticing.
@@ericthecarguy That would certainly explain why your videos are a cut above the rest. Of course, having a natural flare for talking to a camera also helps.
Funny enough, I never wanted to be in front of the camera. I'm much happier behind it. I just didn't have a choice because I couldn't afford to hire 'talent'.
Im not going to lie, I really like that bench.
I absolutely LOVE that workbench.
Your tone helps me gauge how willing I am to pay some one yo do a job for me hahaha.
Eric I have to give you sincere appreciation for this vid AND your level of calm. This what I thought might be and easy replacement turned extremely difficult and very trying. Thank you for this video, helps me to appreciate the efforts by the various techs that have been working on my 02 Accord LX project rebuild.
Honda accords r definitely a but challenging to do a track on for sure! This odyssey i know from experience book times for 5.3 hours not including the alignment!
Excellent video! I feel like I’ve been taken back five years ago.
Great Content! I'm looking forward to the "what went wrong with the old rack" video. Have a great day!
I'm editing that now. It should be available next week. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for sharing the tools, tips and techniques involved in doing the job.
Your replies to the comments are very helpful Eric. First time commenting but you helped me with a civic timing belt a ways back maybe 7 years ago. I've been watching ever since. Thank you for all you do!
I'm happy to help. Thanks for watching!
2 things so far: If Snotty Killmemore was doing this? He would have jumped out of the back and by the time he said "Start Your Engines with a compression fitting!!"... He would have been done already. On the lighter side? Refreshing to see this done on a non-NYS car/truck/suv. Most of ours come to the dealership with rust preinstalled at the factory. Nicely done, and have a super day!!
Thanks for sharing Eric👍
It is an interesting job, & on many vehicles challenging as well, back in the day we used to repair these stee-racks, oil leaks by replacing the OEM kit & other part's if there was play or clunking noise😉
But unfortunately that was only possible until the manufacturers supplied the repair kit's, later-on they just offered a complete rack just replace it🔩🔧
Anyways enjoyed this video👍
Stay Safe❤
Your video helped me a ton, did mine this last weekend, thanks!
Being a gm technician, i have a tip that may help you on the next power steering job. One of gm's bleed procedure is to put the reservoir under vacuum with a hand pump. I use that method most of the time as it works really well. Pulls the air to the top. Then i will work the wheel with the engine off a few times. Works pretty good.
To anyone trying to bleed a traverse or acadia with the 3.6l, good luck they are a pain to bleed. Also make sure you are using Dextron VI not power steering fluid.
Thank you for that info!
I love the Robocop quote.
Thank you for sharing Eric I always enjoy watching your videos I am from South Africa
Hello South Africa! It's always good to read your comments. Thank you.
See? This is why I never finish my repairs. I look at that rack on the bench and think no way am I going to trust old tie rods or old boots. That leads to new hoses to the pump which leads to a new motor mount because I'm already in there. Good on ya, Eric.
I like spongbob swing from your rear View mirror
Had a local shop replace the rack on my wife's gen 1 oddy some years ago when it had 250+k. The rack blew a seal in the warranty period so the shop had to redo it. We left on a trip that weekend, got out on the highway behind a car hauler and the front end went all death wobble. We turned about and went home (10 miles in). I got under the shop and noticed that they had left the bolts on the rack loose and had not installed the second bolt on the strap on the other side...... The one time in 20 years I let someone else work on that van. We rode that van till 365k and now another young family is still driving it.
What kinda shop is that, round here they would love to charge 500+ for the rack replacement
@Evermore 365k wow, original engine?
@Evermore Sorry buddy, you still have your 05?
@Evermore 160k is nothing on these, how is your trans?
@Evermore my 02 ody ( rated as worse honda transmssion) has a little jutter near the Overdrive engagement point but still moves along fine.
I have trashed a rack and pinion by putting dexron into an old accord. I have since relaxed and put generic Honda specific power steering fluid on with no problems. But I think our 2016 Acura MDX is now electric power steering so don’t have to worry about it anymore.
You get so much value, here at Eric the car guy...nice:)
Yes Eric Great Job and like i told my father... YOU MUST USE HONDA POWER STEERING FLUID IN A HONDA NO EXCEPTIONS!
heres a tip for bleeding Honda power steering stuff. anytime you have the system open, fill the reservoir with fluid, raise the front wheels & turn the steering wheel lock to lock a few times then top off the fluid. start the engine for roughly 3-5 seconds then shut it off. top off the fluid again & restart the engine. in my experience (10+ year Honda tech) this is the best way to get minimal, if any air in the system, saves time & no pump whine. solid video! 👌🏼
Did you watch the entire video? Thanks for the comment.
EricTheCarGuy watched it start to finish. what i meant to say was, lock to lock before starting the engine.
Great video. Now I know to take it to my mechanic!
Good work Eric not to bad of a job as long as engine mount is removed
Eric: I'm replacing the power steering rack
Scotty: I told you all that these cars are money pit
Blah blah blah blah my old Celica that I barely drive and has leaks all over is the best and most reliable
lol
Real techs laugh at Scotty.
Scotty says all odysseys are crap they eat cams and transmissions haha sienna rides like a dream he says :-)
Nice video Eric. Some how I think you could do that job with your eyes closed for sure.
Jim another great machanic
Wish we could get a few more of these normal repair videos. the nice cars are nice 👌 but seeing work done on "regular" cars is awesome
My Dads truck is about the most 'regular' truck on the planet. Thanks for the comment.
This should be interesting and packed-full of useful information. I'll reserve my final comments after the video. It doesn't matter to me which vehicle is being worked upon. It's all relevant to good auto maintenance and repair.
I usually take the rear sub frame bolts completely out. Also the trans mounts take it off sub frame and it comes out driver side when you rotate rack little bit without having to take mount out
- 0:24 i noticed honda has a service bulliten out for some particular year of odyssey(i want to say like 07-08 or something like that), seems like basically what you do is that you mark and disconnect the steering column and grease the splines, thats helped a lot more vehicles than just those years tho, i did have one of those model year (2011-2017) odysseys have that same issue your talking about and greasing the splines helped a lot, its the part that will come out(if you manuever it in the correct way but make sure you mark bolth ends of it like the part with the splines thats his hand covers in 2:39 , hope it helps somone else out there, thats been the easiest thing to start with for me, if you can get it to do it and have your hand on the column, you may be able to feel it "pop"
@33:24 - For others to know (I am sure Eric does), setting your parking brake before you start your vehicle will turn off the daytime running lights in Honda/Acura vehicles. This is important if you are using fender covers or another heavy material to cover the headlights while you are working on it. If you don’t disable the daytime running lights, you could damage your headlight due to excessive heat build up with the bulb on.
Had to replace mount bushings on 07 Dakota, biggest pain was getting the lines tighten. And torquing the bolts down, was on jack stands little room to swing to get 190 ft lbs.
Nicely done. I can't imagine how big of a pain in the ass this would have been for you sans lift! Power steering racks are something I will gladly pay for someone else to do on a lift.
I replaced the rack in my wife's 2008 Sienna on my driveway and it was a bit of a backbreaker. Lots of goofy angles and tight fits to get to bolts and fittings. Glad I did a video! 😁
Did this job on the street laying on my back, put the new rack in filled it up an it started leaking immediately. Had to pull the rack back out an found out it got damaged in shipping. Bought another rack an installed it. 3 days laying in the street in 95 degree weather.
my 1st rock took 29 hrs back in early 90s...on the ground and no lift...what a pain in the 🐴
oh yah and worse thing of all, NO eric the car guy to help me!!!👍🏼
Eric
Thanks for the great video. As usual - a FANTASTIC JOB! I own an Odyssey that has a similar "rattle" in the front that I have not been able to fix yet. At this point, I've replaced most every component in the front end. Sounds like it just might be the steering. I've replaced all of the engine and transmission mounts and haven't forgot the "wrestling match" I had with that rear mount. Of course I was laid on my back in the driveway on a 100 degree day in Florida....no fun at all.
Now that I've seen your video, I'll be prepared for a full day to replace the power steering rack. Looking forward to see what you find when you tear the old one apart.
Thanks again - keep up the great videos!
Have you looked into greasing those front struts? My 2014 Ody makes a noise in the struts and people have replaced the struts only for the noise to return. It appears to be a non safety defect, but greasing it from what I have heard from other owners makes the rattle go away. Cheaper than new struts that will eventually make the rattle again.
I'd wait till after next weeks video before you tear into that. Thanks for the comment!
@@midwestfarm757 I have replaced the struts but not greased them. I'll look into that - thanks. BTW - The car has 386K on it and I am the original owner. I would expect to be replacing many of the front end components.
@@markpiveral8570 I definitely believe the 3.5 can do the mileage. I only have 105K and it runs great!
Older Subaru power steering racks are like a 2 minute job, and 5 of those minutes is drinking a beer.
Eric I have been having the same issue with the identical vehicle, I replaced almost all suspension components but that light clunk always stayed. Now I am sure it is the rack, and it somehow wears over time. Also it is very difficult to work on this van due to its tight compartments. Bearing is Koyo 28mm 6001 if needed.
Loved the video. Can’t wait for the follow up! Thanks, Eric!
That will drop next Friday. Thanks for the comment!
Scanner Danner, and Jim in the comments? Nice! All great mechanics.
I dig that genuine Honda oil filter.
Good vid, your looking good man. Sorry, only got halfway through the vid. Ads every three minutes is why people use blockers, Cheers
Good video Eric just classic Eric the car guy content 👌 @EricTheCarGuy
Great detail Eric😁
Impact guns make so much difference in these types of jobs!
Awesome video as always, just thought it were funny that the hammering part @19:39 sounds pretty close to the baseline in Ozzy's Crazy Train
Spongebob says, "Nice job, Eric!"
Old school ETCG vibes with this video!
Hey Eric thanks for the video I also work on lot of Honda's .
I literally had that same noise and I just fixed it last week by just removing the steering column and lubricating it and putting it back.
On literally the exact same vehicle, just in case you ever come into that noise again
I always get hondas that I have to do the alignment when they replace the rack n pinion from another shop and they always leave the steering wheel crooked more than it supposed to and the inner tie rod threads always one side has more than the other I charge 30 bucks extra to fix it from the shaft
First I do the alignment make sure the tie rods have the same threads when adjusting toe then I fix the steering wheel
Nice work Eric it was a great video Thanks...
No wonder this is a @$1000+ job. Job done.
Yep I hAd mines done 4 months ago it came with already together and I did all the control arms outer tie rode and sway links rides like a new car 🚗
Preety good job great video . Excellent call on fluid .
I replaced the hard, high pressure line on my 09 odyssey last year. Not a fun time getting the brackets off and back in place.
ErictheCarGuy = Honda Scottykilmer = Toyota
Scotty is the Donald Trump of mechanics
@Evermore yeah his own opinions conflict all the time, always the shock titles
7:48 awwwwww what a cutie pie .
How do you know the new rack was centered? Should we check by turning lock to lock on the bench and dividing by 2 to find the center?
I appreciate all your videos. Some advice though .Wear gloves .I am 66 now and can no longer expose my hands to any petroleum products or my skin comes off my fingers and I have to wait for the exposed skin to peel off and new skin to work on cars at all .Really sucks I still slip up sometimes and pay the price.
12:31, "Closing time" reference :)
I agree with using genuine Honda P/S fluid. Can you tell us why you only recommend using genuine Honda P/S fluid? I'm trying to explain it to my boss who is questioning it. Thanks.
Great video Eric!
Dealership told me that my 2011 accord needed it replaced a year ago, strangely it has never used a drop of fluid, or leaked on my driveway.
I have a Honda Odyssey 2007 by the way!!
Yes be careful you don't want to destroy the Clock Spring
Koeo if you turn the steering wheel from lock to lock slowly. It will bleed without sending all the air through the pump.
Excellent!
15:57 - Did you really just do a RoboCop quote in a Schwarzenegger accent?
He'll be Bach.
Yes. You now owe me $1 😉
Is this the same process to change the steering rack in a 2012 Honda Accord ?
Wonder if the zipties work on some cars but not others. Have a BMW F10 and had to make the shop order in metal clamps to keep the boots from popping off.
Hey I think I have the same problem but can I be from winter tires because I just fix my two cv axle a I still feeling the same Think you were talk about
Is there a vehicle where the power steering racks ever come out easy cause they always seem to be a pain
This is an excellent video. I love when you focus on Honda vehicles. So few YTers are doing step-by-step Honda videos, but they should. You make it look easy, but I know its because you are an experienced mechanic. If you get the chance, can you do a valve adjustment video on a 2012 civic. I find the 2012 civic to be difficult in the sense that the top of the engine is slanted back on a weird angle and its quite difficult to adjust the intake valves because of the weird angle you have to approach it at. My 2000 Corolla was easy to do anything regarding the valve cover etc.
That is a lot of work done. You made it look easy and it's not. The only thing is have to get a four wheel alignment and even are off a hair by measuring it or by eye without the alignment machine it will be way off.
Thanks for the info. Now i know to never attempt this job .😂
Its nothing to do with the rack in pinion but i got a question i have a 1999 acura rl and the temperature gauge goes up to the H but goes down but i pulled over but the car wasn't overheating and i change the temperature gauge
Is it possible to remove the line which stops the rack from moving sideways, without having to remove the mount thereby making the job a bit simpler?
Why is there an electrical connection on the engine mount?
love the spongebob air freshener haha
I've had that for years, like more than 15.
@@ericthecarguy it's funny and cute for sure!!! Classic haha
Wheres the video for the timing belt you did for this car? I'm asking cuz i have the same car.
Would have only done OEM either way or would have considered reman rack? If so, what brand would you have gone with
Great job, I watch the whole video and I'm impressed I probably could do all that but I need a shop lol.
I have a question by the way, I already changed the O rings on the power steering pump but still losing fluid don't have any idea where it coming from did you have any clue?
Seems like not a lot has changed since the 93 accord just not a lot of stuff in the way. Think I still buy a refurbished fully build one instead.
I can hear you say it now Eric. Eric Eric you are doing it all wrong!!! 😂
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I truly enjoy watching someone making all the mistakes I would have made, except I would have made more errors. Anyway, now I will make fewer mistakes if I need to replace a power steering rack.
I didn't see any fresh grease added to the tie rod ends before replacing the boots. I have to assume everything was okay.
Eric mentioned he would get a front-end alignment done. It takes special equipment to do it right.
At the end, he mentioned tearing-down the 'new' power steering rack. I presume he meant the one he took out of the Odyssey. It still has value as a rebuild. I'm looking forward to that video, as well.
Call me finnicky, however I would have liked to see everything torqued to specifications, especially with a spanking-new rack - sounds a bit sensual, huh?
I wonder if wearing earplugs would be a good idea. I really don't wonder, as I have bad hearing from my military days. Wear ear plugs, Eric! And, that's all I've got to say about that. (Forrest Gump)