I have 12 Cat5 cables that came with my 500mbps powerline ethernet, 10 Cat5e cables that I bought, but can only run 100mbps because the two crappy laptops I use simultaneously can only handle that.
I was on 7 Mbps down 1 Mbps up some months ago. Now, it is at 40 Mbps down 3.8 Mbps up. I don't know why they don't just use ethernet to the home. That way, we would have had 100 Mbps down 100 Mbps up 20 y ago.
The shielding is shown with UTP, FTP or STP mark, written on the cable. UTP : Unshielded Twisted Pair FTP : Fielded Twisted Pair STP : Shielded Twisted Pair STP is the best.
@ZeggiK No, STP is not neccessarily the best. If you use STP cables you have to make sure everything is properly grounded, otherwise you might end up with worse performance than UTP.
Cat7 is also highly recommended for industrial applications where electrical "noise" from motors, contactors/relays, and such like can not only interrupt the data connection, but in extreme cases could also damage the NIC on either or both ends. Cat7 has each pair shielded, and the whole bundle shielded. Cat8 may never be needed as everything is moving to fibre anyway which has higher data rates than any of them, zero cross talk and zero EMI risk. Once cost's come down fibre ethernet will be in homes eventually.
Important to add: Even the lower categories come in shielded (FTP) and unshielded (UTP) versions. Go for the shielded if you have to coil the cable somewhere, although you should avoid that at all cost. Doing so can completely kill your transfer speed.
SFTP should do the trick to if someone needs to coil the cable better than FTP? I've been tearing but I don't see changes, maybe I'm not testing at the highest speed
Super-useful. I wired my house with Cat5 23 years ago but only terminated a few runs. I’m finally. getting around to terminating more, and your video made me feel it won’t be a total waste of time. Thank you - excellent content, brilliantly presented.
Working from home like so many others today, I got tired of tripping over all the cables on the floor running back to my router. Having access from the basement, I decided to buy a switch and run a single cable under my floor back to the router. The location was close to my electrical panel and, as such, a lot of unavoidable electrical wires to cross. I first tried a long Cat 6 cable that I had strung across the floor and got a connection speed close to that of a cheap hotel wifi. I picked up a shielded Cat 7 and voila! I was getting speeds faster than what I was paying for! I tossed all my Cat 6 patch cables and replaced with Cat 7. Seems now I should have done some testing... or watched your video sooner! :) I think the main lesson was, shielding really does work. Thanks for the great channel.
I was going to buy a Cat7 for home gaming, but after watching this video and seeing those results, I am just gonna stick with the Cat5e. Will save money on the 35ft roll which will cost me 15$ instead of 50$. Thanks, it was very interesting and informative.
I've found that in my experience CAT 7 is also super important if you have for example a multi node rack mount server with the nodes talking to each other over these cables especially if you have 3 or more nodes as the number of these wires sending different information in extremely close proximity leads to reliability issues without sheilding.
I noticed by biggest difference moving to shielded cables. Switching from CAT 5e to a full blown CAT 6 S/FTP cable gave me an increase of just under 50%. I also replaced the manufacturer supplied modem cable (we mostly still have regular ADSL lines where I am) with a shielded cable with RJ11 connectors at each end and the overall line speed increased by nearly 80%.
2:25 Shielding isn't one of the reasons Cat 5e supports faster speeds than regular Cat 5 cables. 99.999% of Cat5e cables are UTP, not STP, yet they are all rated for 1 Gbps despite that fact. Shielding is only beneficial in very specific environments with significant electromagnetic interference. Both shielded and UNshielded Cat 5e cables otherwise have the same electrical properties.
The problem I can see, in your case, would be the very high risk of cross eating or cross feeding. If the cats are not individually isolated from food interference, I would say the probability of cross feeding on a cat 7, is equal to 1!
I've got one Cat-6A installation in the wall of around 10 metres. It was put in when Cat-6A had just become available. I won't be pulling through a new Cat-7 cable with it. A 10m cable run isn't going to make much of a difference for my use. Everything else, will be done by a router from now on. Excellent video.
Joseph King well 1 cat was the old telephone standard and you can still use it so in theory they could have 2 telephone connections without breeding the cats.
Sometimes its weird how people dont even know that , then complain why their 10 mbps internet for example only gives some 1.25mb/s of speed in downloads.
No. Ethernet doesn't have anything to do with bit-rate, how many bits in a byte, or anything like that. The overhead of the TCP stack though, is definitely a legitimate statement. What @Sammy was saying, is only further demonstrated by this, Jacob. His numbers are theoretical, and very generous (and nearly attainable with a connection such as UDP).
I run cabling for businesses mainly like Target, Walmart and all. I know that in Walmart remodels they still put in Cat5e as new. At Target, any cable that needs to be replaced, doesn't matter if it's for a camera, printer, Workstation, they get Cat6A. Looks like Target is future proofing. Some have older 2960 Cisco switches still but most have the 3850s
You made a pretty good attempt at covering this. The one big error is touting cat 7. Cat 7 was never recognized by the TIA or Bicsi. It came out with a proprietary connector (GG45), then an option to terminate on RJ style connectors Each pair within the cable is shielded in Cat 7. It was a train wreck. Cat 6A ratified after 7, and was what 7 should have been. All category cables are performance rated at 100 meters, except for Cat 8. They were initially rated in MHz carried (while having positive electrical attributes like crosstalk and attenuation), instead of megabits or gigabits of bandwidth carried. Goofy, I know. But higher MHz capacity equated to higher bandwidth in throughput. Summary: Cat 5e = 100 MHz with 100mb typically, and 1Gb on good installs with good 5e (quality matters) Cat 6 = 250 MHz with 1Gb, not 10G Cat 6a = 500 MHz with 10G throughput at 100 meters. It's the defacto standard for today's professional structured cabling installations. Cat 7 = 600 MHz and Irrelevant, as it's not used anywhere. If you get a "cat 7" cable off Amazon or somewhere, it's likely a Chinese shielded 5e or 6. Cat 7 relies heavily on shielding in the cable, while 6a does not require that. There are shielded options for all other previous "cat x" categories, but they're just options for high interference installations. Cat 8 = 2000 MHz with 25G and 40G throughput, but at only 30 meters. Data center application for shorter distances. Not for workstation applications.
True on all points, but while not actually certified at 10 G, Cat 6 can do 10 G reliably at under 120 feet per run, and in theory all the way out to 180 or 183 feet depending on who you ask. It's not certified for 10 G because it doesn't reach the 100 m spec but for home wiring it is fine, 6 runs into problems with serious cable density or high interference which is why 6A is the new standard for horizontal wiring (not literally horizontal, its an industry term) Not saying you're wrong because you are spot on, but for the real world uses of anyone watching this video, wiring your house with 6 is still a great suggestion for a 10 G future ready platform. The odds that you'll have a run over 120 feet long (or 180) is really low, if so either you need to rethink how you run cables or you have an income to get a house large enough that 6A is easily affordable. The biggest thing I've noticed to be an issue is actually in the termination of the cable and making sure you maintain the proper spec for maintaining the twist of the cable into the jack. If a home user can plan out runs under approx 150 feet and maintain good discipline in finishing the connectors you'll be fine. Just in case the average home owner comes here and wants to install a 10 G system in their own house
Brandon Roth Yes one can get 10G on shorter lengths of cat 6. But I've seen test equipment replicating how noise injected on a line (think home electrical wire running all over, and category cabling next to it or crossing it repeatedly) causes video degradation in the form of 'snow' and dropped frames. It will cause the same issues on VoIP. And pathway sizes in houses certainly be a concern too. I acknowledge that as a real issue in some cases. But in many commercial applications, wiring is better routed and low volt cabling is kept 2" or more away from power. Residential wiring is generally installed as the crow flies, and much less carefully with regard to EMI and/or other electrical noises that can couple on a line. Just a consideration. I'd run 6A every chance I could. It is designed to be much more immune to outside interference. Lower categories were concerned primary with internal noise between the pairs. 6A is designed to also mitigate external noise from other cables and anything else. Until residential speeds are higher, none of this matters much just yet. Terminations are probably the biggest general issue with performance though. You're right about that. Kinking with amateur installations might be second, followed by the EMI issues of installing by power. All my observations.
The higher the rated Frequency the more you will get attenuation. Which is why they rate over distance. You can run a CAT 5e farther then a CAT 6e. As the attenuation is lower on the CAT 5e. This is the issue with ever greater frequency a cable can carry. As you can't break Ohms law...
You need to test the speeds at the max cable lengths that they all support, such as 50m. It would also be helpful to see the impact of interference elements such as fluorescent lights and power lines on each cable type.
Cat5: 100mbps max bandwidth (Discontinued) up to 100 meters of length 100mhz speed Cat5e: 1000mbps max bandwidth up to 100 meters of length 100mhz speed Cat6: 10gbps max bandwidth up to 55 meters of length 250mhz speed Cat6a: 10gbps max bandwidth up to 100 meters of length 500mhz speed Cat7: 10gbps max bandwidth 600mhz speed Companies that claim to have "The Super And New Cat8" are most of the time lying
@@nolanpoitras8207 I have a CAT5 cable running from the router to my room. Didn't realize it's outdated though, yet it still seems to work at 250+ Mbps. It says CAT5 (Gigabit Tested).
Thank you - very nicely done. FYI - we did CAT5e on the whole house years back and have had excellent speed and reliability out of that cable. It can handle a great deal more than we get from our ISP (NOT bitching about that). The wireless side of our system has be a lot more trouble and I really appreciate the CAT5e side.
When I worked at HP/EDS we used 10 gig switches, we had over 300,000 connections coming in at any given time. We supported the Airlines industries and Sabre.
Here are a few lessons learned from hard experience in my house ethernet wiring. My house was built in 2000 and was wired for coax and ethernet. Fast forward to 2021 and I wanted to run an AX WiFi router to get Gigabit WiFi speeds and needed at least a Gigabit backhaul wired connection to my cable modem. I had already upgraded my switches to Gigabit and could not understand why the best speed I could get was about 50 Megabits. I asked for help from the cable company and a knowledgeable technician informed me that my cables were terminated wrong for Gigabit and were wired for 10/100 Megabit. So I proceeded to replace the connectors with properly wired connectors. But could not get them to work properly. My cable tester would always give some pair of intermittent signals. I thought it was my connector work but after multiple efforts, I then looked at the cable and it was Cat 5 cable. All the runs were doubled down to my patch panel in the garage and then back up to the second floor so too long for Cat 5. I knew all my other components were good because a long patch cable from the cable modem to my AX router delivered about 500 Megabits. So yes the cables make a difference and so do the connector wiring scheme.
I had to roll out Cat7 cable in a nursing home where the original data cablers messed up and ran Telco everywhere instead of Cat5e as specified. The data ducts where all closed up so we had to trace the cables along the power lines (nursing home, no drilling allowed once the residents moved in). Unlike previous standards, the internal shielding of Cat7 allows it to be run alongside power cables. Super-expensive work-around but the only option we had at the time.
Cat5e can do 10Gbps up to 147ft if everything is properly terminated and the cable is solid core pure copper. And it is significantly easier to work with and properly terminate than the higher category cables. So the statement at 10:00 is objectively false.
in 20 years of doing IT, which includes regularly pulling wire from time to time, I've never come across a CAT5 cable that was actually spec'd down the CAT5 standards. They were always spec'd up to CAT5e. Before you go hauling cable out of your walls. Check the cable twist and shielding. If you con't have a Gigabit Internet connection, upgrading probably isn't worth it. Even if you're streaming local movies in 4K off a local Plex server, unless that single cable going to the server is shared with a bunch of other connections, you're likely fine with CAT5e for another 5-8years.
Here's something to consider too. Even for home use. Cat5e may be good for most situations. But if you have a lot of devices to wire up off of various switches and from a router, for me I use a cat6 cable as the main wire feeding the router and each switch. For the branch wire feeding the devices, some have the cat5e. I haven't gotten around to replacing them plus I can be a cheapskate. But I used the higher quality wire as the main wire so it can better handle the traffic from multiple devices at once. The cat5e that is feeding each device only has to handle 1 device. So if your like me, I would recommend at least replacing the main wire feeding your router and switches. It's not quite as necessary for the ones going to the device. I did replace the cat5e that feeds my Xbox with the better cable. But other than that, the cat5e serves me just fine. But there can be one other thing to consider that buying the better cables may help. If your having problems receiving radio such as AM/FM for example. Or if your someone who is into things like amateur radio that transmits radio signals, the better wire with better shielding such as the cat7 may be a good choice to help keep out all of the extra radio signals that can be floating around. Especially if your computer and radio equipment are in close proximity of each other.
One other thing, if your building a house and wiring it with internet, future-proof your house and just bite the bullet and put the cat7 or whatever the best Ethernet cable is at the time (I say at the time because I'm sure that at some point a better wire will come out since this post. If they come out with a cat10 cable, get it) in while the walls are open. And by using the cable with the better shielding helps to better protect it while in the walls. Don't forget the your electrical wiring is in the walls as well. This could also include phone wiring and TV cable as well as other possible wires which at some point will end up crossing one another. Don't forget the electric wire has no shielding and 90% of the tme, your internet wire and the wires to power your computer and equipment come close together. By using the best cable will help to shield out any interference that could happen because of the other wires.
10:30 And this is why I always laughing (at the most postitive) when people say that "USB-C now can reach...." a speed. I mean, indeed "RJ-45 can now reach 10 Gb/s!":D In fact, RJ-45 can't, the cable can. Your video is proof of this. It's not about the port - so not about RJ-45 or USB-C - but all about the cable and the protocol. The protocol is the language the devices speak over the connection. If they talk faster, they can move data faster. Logical. This is why we talk about 'handshaking': "Hi, I'm a 10 Gb/s cable! "- "Hey, I'm a 10 Gb/s port! We can talk at the same speed!".
Knowing about cat3 and cat5 can be important. Cat3 is basically just 2 wires for phones. But if you have 2 cat3 connections in one room, you can combine them to a cat5 and get 100mb/s without having to rewire your home. I used that trick in two buildings already.
Marco, totally wrong. Cat1 was 2 twisted pair copper POTS for phones. Cat 2 was 4 twisted pair. Cat3 was unshielded twisted pair rated to 10 Mbps which was used for computer networking. Cat4 was an improvement to Cat3 but is now defunct. Actually all of these are no longer in the TIA 568-C specification.
@@gbinman Thanks for the correction. So I confused cat 1 and cat 3. Although there difference is just in specification. Although now i'm curious. I did use the combining trick at my parents house. It must have technically been cat 1 then. Maybe I was lucky or the runs are just short enough.
@@marcopfeiffer3032 As you said, with a small number of short runs pretty much anything will work. The full spec is for lots of 100 meter runs. Your solution with that model would have been a horrible failure.
...I haven't seen anything 'out there' but CAT-5 cable, ThioJoe. I use CAT-5 for my home network which consists of several ten plus year old desktops. Tinkering around with computers are one of my ''Hey, I'm retired and this is what I like to do'' hobbies. I did not know about the CAT 6a or the Cat 7, which seems to be more for commercial use as in Servers of 'In The Cloud' storage units. So, I learned something today, ThioJoe....now to retain it. Thanks for the video. It was informative.
The most entertaining aspect of this video is watching to see how long you could speak without blinking. Presentation is great but the extended eye contact was intense. LOL thank you for quality content.
I remember dealing with standards as old as CAT3 ethernet, still RJ45, but 10baseT, a 10Mbps transfer rate. That was more than good enough for afew DOS and Linux computers sharing a dot-matrix printer.
difference was huge for me especially when it came to transfer speeds within my home network from PC to NAS devices - also improved bandwidth to those devices and completely did away with all the periodic inconvenient drop outs, That was CAT5E to CAT7 - now I am changing to CAT8 and expect more improvements so thats me and my experience!
@@OT-tn7ci I found CAT8 Ethernet cables of varying lengths on Amazon Australia. I've swapped all my Ethernet cables to CAT8 and noticed huge improvements to.
@@OT-tn7ci improvement specifically in regards to drop-outs, network transfer speeds of large video files from PC or Laptop to 10gbe NAS, especially over longer distances and cable lengths. I use shorter cabled for switches, router/modem and longer to reach other rooms and devices since I try to avoid wireless use.
Yes, all the above information is useful, some information I want to add for those who are preparing to buy a new house is to use a best Cat8 wire, probably about 10M to connect your internet from the set. routed to an internet repeater. Make sure the amplifier is in the middle of the house, from there you can expand to many other Cat6 or Cat7 wires to other LAN devices in the house without worrying about signal loss due to distance. long wires, usually amplifiers can make the signal strength go farther than 300M, eliminating the limitation of wires
I moved into my current apartment just over two months ago. When I was getting my CenturyLink modem setup, I noticed that my apartment was outfitted with Cat 5e! Thank you for this video!
Thanks for the explanation of cable differences. I am running an exterior line to my she-shed from the house connection, as my wireless option is inconsistent. The Spectrum guy said Cat 5, so I needed to know what the variations meant! I checked out a lot of videos and yours was the best.: simple, direct, and no long introduction to assault my senses. Thanks so much!!!
There were no difference because it's make more sense in a big data server. The problem is the network that you receive do not come direct from the optical fiber cable.... Normal users can't see the real difference because our network infrastructure.
Correct. Cat5e had to have better twisted pairs. You could technically use a Cat3 wire to make a cat5 cable, although for the price point, it would just be silly to do, even back in the day. Cat 6 started with some crazy braided wire thing that magically erased some of the cross talk that happened every so many feet. Then they squished the braid to make the cat6 ribbon cables. THOSE were the first ones I jumped on, because a flat ribbon cable is much nicer to toss in your laptop bag. I haven't even heard of 6a and 7 until just now. Not sure that 6a would be much benefit. I can TOTALLY see the benefit of ripping out all of the 5e patch cables in a switch room and changing them out to Cat7.
First time viewer of your channel. Great video. I do wish you had pointed out to your viewers that if they were going to put permanent cables in the walls and ceiling, that they should use plenum cable. These have no "toxic fumes" in fire/ over heating, because of different coatings on the cables. You might also point out that the extra shielding eliminates interference from fluorescent fixtures. Given the amount of CFL's in use now in recessed fixtures, it is note worthy. For anyone doing home recording studios, the extra shielding is a must. Again, loved your vid.
Just recently removed the only CFL lightbulb at home It's wild to me that people even use these anymore Bad color quality + slightly dangerous = not a good light
That`s for internet,as for extender hdmi,you need to get cat 6 or 7,since cat 5 at least with 15 meters you will not get any signal,so keep that in mind.
Hi Thio, I’m a network cabling engineer in the uk. Most people in there homes don’t even plug in their equipment and rely on the WIFI from their router. Network cabling is mainly used for business and institutions. The highest specs are used in data centres where all of the cloud based stuff we use is stored. Great video thanks for taking the time to do the test. 👍
Might be true in your country but in the rest of the world there is alot of high end gamers and a true gamer uses a cable because its reiliable :) Ofcourse there is a few that uses wifi but the mejority uses cables
Might mention CCA = copper clad aluminium vs. pure copper cables. When running power over Ethernet, 23 gauge CCA is worse than 24 gauge copper, and I wonder about the danger of corrosion in CCA, particularly if you're doing something hard to redo like a buried cable or wiring a building.
Was going to mention this, and for what it's worth this is also an issue for coax (Cable TV) cable as well. Spectrum/TWC uses CCS while Dish used Copper. It actually does make a difference, if you're going to wire your house, get the good stuff and do it once. The wire can still corrode on the exposed tips but with coax and data and p hone you should be leaving at least 12 inches spare behind the wall to prepare for this. If you can corrode through that much your walls are already turning to slush with humidity that high lol
I think the CAT7 cable makes sense for real-time applications like audio/video recording studios and obscenely expensive custom home theater and gaming installations, where bandwidth and latency requirements are more stringent, and you particularly want to minimize packet retransmission, because there are a bunch more packets already in the pipeline right behind that one. I like dogs better than cats, but I try to be nice to people who like cats anyway.
Most of the Cat standards come in a selection of flavours. And a description of the Reason why you might want Cat5 FTP over non foil wrapped could be included. FTP = better exclusion of cross talk from other cable run alongside. UFTP or segregated pairs are used to improve cross talk internally on the cable. This can become more relevant for l non network Cat applications like CCTV, KVM units, Lighting Art net or systems that put power down the cable. Cat6a is noted to also have better power handling due to its larger gauge. It has improved voltage loss. Some negatives not mentioned is that Cat6 can be more fragile, shielded Cat5e can offer good durability with a small form factor. Cat6a it’s harder to work with it is larger, stiffer and take longer to make off. Also Cat6 is 250mhz and Cat6A is 500mhz Whitch means it works in the same frequency range as Wi-Fi networks. In some cases this may cause issues. Secondarily it is worth mentioning benifits of grounding Cat cabling. Many projects ground at the rack only so it can act as a interference drain. When correctly installed Cat6A should be the best however many projects would benefit from foil wrapped Cat5e. Some KVM units actually request non-foil wrapped Cat5.
This makes a difference internally…. Maybe not over the net because of all of the other variables involved but locally yes. My own experience going from Cat5e to cat6 gave me a 75% increase in speeds.
I realise that this video was made 7 years ago. In professional AV systems, where we are transporting high resolution video in real-time as in AVoIP, the bandwidth that the cable can carry is REALLY important, especially with 4K. Cat 6A is acceptable, BUT not all 6A cables can do high bandwidth. So we specify the approved brands and type, including connectors. AS usual, your vids are informative - well done.
You can totally do 10gb on CAT5e under 55m. A friend and I use within the same room, closer to 4 to 10 feet. For the only long 10gb line that I plan to run, I will probably use OC. I'm just comparing the cost of 150 feet cat6a to the cost of a SFP+ NIC (already got a switch and transceivers).
8:14 - Another pointless test, all the cables can do gigabit Ethernet up to 50ft. You just verified what they said it would do. Test 10gbps, and test longer lengths. That is where it matters.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share it with all of us. If you ever redo this video or come back and revisit this topic, can you please make the test using longer cables? I suspect you will see differences as you approach the hundred meter mark. As always thumbs up and I am subscribed with notifications turned on!
Here in Puerto Rico most of the time I recommend my clients sticking with Cat5e since our ISPs don't provide speeds that justify using higher categories. Unless they're making internal networking that takes advantage of the bandwidth of higher categories (and even then most domestic ethernet devices cap at 1Gb/s), just save the money and stick with Cat5e.
I ran cat 6 to my loft but although I got the job done in the end, it was a nightmare trying to put on the rj45 connector. I had to buy connectors that were designed for cat6 but they were still very difficult. I also found that the wires snapped quite easily which is a big concern. I dont think you can properly test these cables unless you run them very long distances like 100m. I would like to see that test.
*I wouldn't say it's just marketing purposes. As an electrician who's ran long runs of Ethernet, generally speaking CAT5 all the way up to cat 8 at around 50 ft or so, can deliver about 2.5 gigabit. Most cables from CAT5 and up can reach gigabit speeds as long as the cable is adequate length. The only reason cat 7 and cat 8 make a big deal is when a large infrastructures start to reach that limit of 100 m, cat 6 at 100 m isn't going to deliver the full 2.5 gigabit because of data loss in length. Respectively cat 7 and cat 8 is told to be able to deliver around 40 GB per second at less than 100 m. So to get that speed you have to upgrade the wire at the same distance, so cat 7 and 8 have that special shield that protect the data transmission, and will be at the higher end of 10gigabit/40gigabit AFTER 100m while cat 5 and 6 will be at the lower end after 100m. Real world scenario though, cat5e will work for most home and small business needs simply because cat5e can carry more than one gigabit but the trade-off is after about 50 m.*
If possible, it would be really cool to see a comparison of customizing / shortening the cables or installing it on punchdowns. One really cool benefit of cat5e is it's relative moderate ability to add a rj45 connector and still get gig speeds. I still mess up and have to re-cable ends at times.
useful and informative for people like me who are not technical geeks. In fact recently when I wanted to buy internet cable for my desktop connecting ACT fibernet I was searching on the net as to what is cat 5 and cat 6. Thanks for clearly explaining.
I only now switched out my CAT5 cable. I switched to a faster internet plan with gigabit internet, so it finally wasn't enough anymore. It's honestly still not bad, could do anything I wanted, even streaming at 4K (if you are the only one using it). I just needed faster internet because I am moving larger files online now.
sorry i dont have enough knowlegde. i have a 5ft cat5e cable. does that mean its as good as a cat7. if not it is enough to play any game on good connection?
@@igotklampz-883 seems, I am too focused on wiring problems, missed the joke... nonetheless, most engineers won't usually tell you about powerline adaptors
As a former ET I have some experience with this. Physically routing the cable as a home or even Business installation, can be confusing. 1. Will you be forced to lay/run a cable next to an AC power line? 1-answer. The CAT-5 can pick up that noise, and send it down to the server/modem/router AND to the computer. A cable crossing the power line won't hurt it. Cat-7 is (each pair is shielded) and (the whole bundle is shielded) . 2-Who, and how, was the cable made. 2-Answer. If the shields are not grounded, you WILL get RF leakage, both in and out. If BOTH ends are grounded, now you have an antenna waveguide, so any noise intrusion, from equipment or a nicked shield, expect that both ends are receiving the noise. For a PROPER (spurious noise drain) ensure that the Vendor or cable maker, or the DIY crowd, you connect only one end to ground. The other end, cut off all ground wires and shield wrap, Back to the outer insulation.
Hi, I hope ThioJoe or someone can answer this - What's the difference in ping time between cable types? Has anyone measured the difference in performance in 20 meters or longer? What's the intranet (within local network) file transfer speed comparison between cable types? Thanks in advance!
Tim's List I see nobody has answered you. Ping speed really depends on the steps between you and the destination inclusive of both. If you’re going through the internet chances are anything outside of your network is going to be 99% of the factors that matter. For local the router and switches will be the delaying factor inclusive of sending and receiving machine. If wired correctly and for short distances you will see no difference between these ratings for request and response. If you’re using long distances consider your cable run. If you’re likely to be running near other cabling and over longer distances, get the better rating. For an install cable it’s not worth saving the money as the insulation in the cable will help keep out the interference that you may pick up on the way. In reality your biggest network issue will be continued quality of connection as oppose to initial call and response speed. If ping speeds are slow you need to look at the steps between you and the destination. Somewhere along the way there’s a slow hop and it needs dealing with.
I am using a Cat5 and just found out. I was wondering about why my new router was faster with Wifi than Ethernet and just found out it was because of the cable. Unfurtunately the cable runs through the wall to my room so I am not sure it's worth it to change it (since my speed would go from around 100Mbs to 150Mbs)
How did you resolve Cat5 issue. Like to get some tip/input from you. I have the same problem. The wall waring is the bottle neck . Not allowing me to go above 100 MBPS
@@bharatkotecha2191 To be honest no. I mean it is a cable issue, the cable is just transferring the data fast enough. It's up to you whether you want to buy a newer cable and if it is worth it for you.For me no, as I would gain 50Mbits and would need to put cables through the wall. If you dont need to put it through a wall just get any cheap ethernet cable today as it will not be Cat5 for sure.
But the higher number must be better right?
ThioJoe hi joe
Usually I get a Cat7.
I have 12 Cat5 cables that came with my 500mbps powerline ethernet, 10 Cat5e cables that I bought, but can only run 100mbps because the two crappy laptops I use simultaneously can only handle that.
Kenneth Mak Usually? So if the mood hits you just right you get a little edgy and reach for the CAT6? Ok
ThioJoe What Ethernet cable would you recommend for a android tv
I use a dog7
i use dog 6
I try to stick to a hamster 5
I only got Dog5E
Dam I have Cow5
I use urmomon4
Joe: 1GB is the standard now
Me with my new 10mb bandwidth "upgrade": _cries in high latency_
Today I finally got 1 gigabit. It’s insane that this video is 7 years old 💀
Bro I'm still at 50mbit down (10up)@@halami2149
Germany ❤🇩🇪
me with 1mb p/s with some luck 😶
I was on 7 Mbps down 1 Mbps up some months ago. Now, it is at 40 Mbps down 3.8 Mbps up.
I don't know why they don't just use ethernet to the home. That way, we would have had 100 Mbps down 100 Mbps up 20 y ago.
@@halami2149 Same. Now we got CAT8 which is 40Gbps and 2000MHz. But at last my Internet speed is only 20Mbps lol
The shielding is shown with UTP, FTP or STP mark, written on the cable.
UTP : Unshielded Twisted Pair
FTP : Fielded Twisted Pair
STP : Shielded Twisted Pair
STP is the best.
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@ZeggiK
No, STP is not neccessarily the best. If you use STP cables you have to make sure everything is properly grounded, otherwise you might end up with worse performance than UTP.
my cable says Cat 6A ---> SSTP, whats that again? i forgot
shielded pair, and shielded overall. ;) And exist SF/FTP, 'shielded foil'... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twisted_pair#Cable_shielding
Cat7 is also highly recommended for industrial applications where electrical "noise" from motors, contactors/relays, and such like can not only interrupt the data connection, but in extreme cases could also damage the NIC on either or both ends. Cat7 has each pair shielded, and the whole bundle shielded.
Cat8 may never be needed as everything is moving to fibre anyway which has higher data rates than any of them, zero cross talk and zero EMI risk. Once cost's come down fibre ethernet will be in homes eventually.
Cat7 isn't a standard and should not even be used.
Important to add: Even the lower categories come in shielded (FTP) and unshielded (UTP) versions. Go for the shielded if you have to coil the cable somewhere, although you should avoid that at all cost. Doing so can completely kill your transfer speed.
Thank you good to know
SFTP should do the trick to if someone needs to coil the cable better than FTP? I've been tearing but I don't see changes, maybe I'm not testing at the highest speed
Wait...this is....its actually correct information.
He's been putting out real-tech videos for a while now.
Nice. Good to see.
Exactly! I'm just waiting for him to talk about cats!
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That was so easy to digest. I actually memorized all the information immediately. Very well put together.
Sultan Cat ur joking right
@@pedritotaco6951 why dude where are you from?
He's good
@@Cosplayinghuman he memorized it *IMMEDIATELY*
@@pedritotaco6951 shut up fortniter
Super-useful. I wired my house with Cat5 23 years ago but only terminated a few runs. I’m finally. getting around to terminating more, and your video made me feel it won’t be a total waste of time. Thank you - excellent content, brilliantly presented.
I don't get it. My cable starts meowing when I try to plug it in.
r/CursedComments
Sir, that's your cat. I'm calling animal protection (not PETA).
Sir, that’s your cat. I’m calling animal protection (PETA).
I use a pocket pussy
Andy Cornejo sidemen
This was like the most honest review ever.
Working from home like so many others today, I got tired of tripping over all the cables on the floor running back to my router. Having access from the basement, I decided to buy a switch and run a single cable under my floor back to the router. The location was close to my electrical panel and, as such, a lot of unavoidable electrical wires to cross. I first tried a long Cat 6 cable that I had strung across the floor and got a connection speed close to that of a cheap hotel wifi. I picked up a shielded Cat 7 and voila! I was getting speeds faster than what I was paying for! I tossed all my Cat 6 patch cables and replaced with Cat 7. Seems now I should have done some testing... or watched your video sooner! :) I think the main lesson was, shielding really does work. Thanks for the great channel.
I was going to buy a Cat7 for home gaming, but after watching this video and seeing those results, I am just gonna stick with the Cat5e. Will save money on the 35ft roll which will cost me 15$ instead of 50$. Thanks, it was very interesting and informative.
Go with a 6, 6a if you are doing a long run. Better shielding and will still have good connectivity for the future
In a home network Cat5E will do just fine. The high spec cable only is needed with many very long runs.
I've found that in my experience CAT 7 is also super important if you have for example a multi node rack mount server with the nodes talking to each other over these cables especially if you have 3 or more nodes as the number of these wires sending different information in extremely close proximity leads to reliability issues without sheilding.
How many people have that in their home, though?
@keiyakins do you not?
I noticed by biggest difference moving to shielded cables. Switching from CAT 5e to a full blown CAT 6 S/FTP cable gave me an increase of just under 50%. I also replaced the manufacturer supplied modem cable (we mostly still have regular ADSL lines where I am) with a shielded cable with RJ11 connectors at each end and the overall line speed increased by nearly 80%.
Hey man I'm still struggling too with ADSL in my place , can you please explain for me more about things you did to improve ?
The speed Test should have been performed on 100 metre cables, rather than on 1.5m cables for right benchmark.
He should spend that for credibility
2:25 Shielding isn't one of the reasons Cat 5e supports faster speeds than regular Cat 5 cables.
99.999% of Cat5e cables are UTP, not STP, yet they are all rated for 1 Gbps despite that fact. Shielding is only beneficial in very specific environments with significant electromagnetic interference.
Both shielded and UNshielded Cat 5e cables otherwise have the same electrical properties.
@@BrokeCanadian cat 6???
@ꀯ haha yes we are
sotodll it still woulda been cool though bro
Obviously, setting up my 7 cats in alphabetical order would improve the efficiency of feeding.
Piercerson 😂
I'm more of a dog person. WoofFi Woofless-ac
The problem I can see, in your case, would be the very high risk of cross eating or cross feeding. If the cats are not individually isolated from food interference, I would say the probability of cross feeding on a cat 7, is equal to 1!
Sure you didn't catch that itch from your girlfriend Miss Ewe?
Be careful if their food comes in packets not to drop them!
I've got one Cat-6A installation in the wall of around 10 metres. It was put in when Cat-6A had just become available. I won't be pulling through a new Cat-7 cable with it. A 10m cable run isn't going to make much of a difference for my use. Everything else, will be done by a router from now on. Excellent video.
This isn't helpful I only have 2 cats
jesse musgrove ok
xd
If they haven't been fixed and are of the opposite sex, you may get a Cat 3 (once it has grown up) and be able to connect your telephones.
Joseph King well 1 cat was the old telephone standard and you can still use it so in theory they could have 2 telephone connections without breeding the cats.
Then yiu should stick with the Cat2 cable 😂
Me: "Yeah I probably have Cat6a"
also me checking the cable: "Cat5"
How do you check it?
Noriaki Kakyoin have a look along the cable and if it hasn’t been rubbed off it should have either 5, 5e, 6, 6a or 7
@@davo7512 thanks
Noriaki Kakyoin 👌🏻
@@r8v8Act0ne welcome
Thanks for talking without using your hands and no stupid intro with remixes. Subbed.
Same.
lol using hands is a deal breaker huh...note taken!
"1 Gigabit is now kinda the minimum" Tell that to the Australian government who is rolling out "new" infrastructure which wont go past 100 Mbps
for cables it is a minimum. not for actual internet speed lol.
Mexico: Hold my Beer
I can barely get 1 MB
*Hold my Cerveza
Howard Stephen Posadas Ardon ur not alone my porn lags a lot
Quick and easy theoretical bandwidth speed chart
100MB (100Mbit) / 8 = ~12.5MB/s
1000MB (1Gbit) / 8 = ~125MB/s
10000MB (10Gbit) / 8 = ~1250MB/s (~1.25GB/s)
why divide by 8?
because there are 8 bits per byte.
Sammy Morini thank you finally someone who knows the difference in b & B.
Sometimes its weird how people dont even know that , then complain why their 10 mbps internet for example only gives some 1.25mb/s of speed in downloads.
Ethernet is 10bits per byte and then you have the overhead and the gaps between the packets, and then the TCP/IP overhead so that is way to high.
No. Ethernet doesn't have anything to do with bit-rate, how many bits in a byte, or anything like that.
The overhead of the TCP stack though, is definitely a legitimate statement. What @Sammy was saying, is only further demonstrated by this, Jacob. His numbers are theoretical, and very generous (and nearly attainable with a connection such as UDP).
wrong 1 gbit = 1024 mbit = 128 m download speed .
I run cabling for businesses mainly like Target, Walmart and all. I know that in Walmart remodels they still put in Cat5e as new. At Target, any cable that needs to be replaced, doesn't matter if it's for a camera, printer, Workstation, they get Cat6A. Looks like Target is future proofing. Some have older 2960 Cisco switches still but most have the 3850s
You made a pretty good attempt at covering this. The one big error is touting cat 7. Cat 7 was never recognized by the TIA or Bicsi. It came out with a proprietary connector (GG45), then an option to terminate on RJ style connectors Each pair within the cable is shielded in Cat 7. It was a train wreck. Cat 6A ratified after 7, and was what 7 should have been. All category cables are performance rated at 100 meters, except for Cat 8. They were initially rated in MHz carried (while having positive electrical attributes like crosstalk and attenuation), instead of megabits or gigabits of bandwidth carried. Goofy, I know. But higher MHz capacity equated to higher bandwidth in throughput.
Summary:
Cat 5e = 100 MHz with 100mb typically, and 1Gb on good installs with good 5e (quality matters)
Cat 6 = 250 MHz with 1Gb, not 10G
Cat 6a = 500 MHz with 10G throughput at 100 meters. It's the defacto standard for today's professional structured cabling installations.
Cat 7 = 600 MHz and Irrelevant, as it's not used anywhere. If you get a "cat 7" cable off Amazon or somewhere, it's likely a Chinese shielded 5e or 6. Cat 7 relies heavily on shielding in the cable, while 6a does not require that. There are shielded options for all other previous "cat x" categories, but they're just options for high interference installations.
Cat 8 = 2000 MHz with 25G and 40G throughput, but at only 30 meters. Data center application for shorter distances. Not for workstation applications.
True on all points, but while not actually certified at 10 G, Cat 6 can do 10 G reliably at under 120 feet per run, and in theory all the way out to 180 or 183 feet depending on who you ask. It's not certified for 10 G because it doesn't reach the 100 m spec but for home wiring it is fine, 6 runs into problems with serious cable density or high interference which is why 6A is the new standard for horizontal wiring (not literally horizontal, its an industry term)
Not saying you're wrong because you are spot on, but for the real world uses of anyone watching this video, wiring your house with 6 is still a great suggestion for a 10 G future ready platform. The odds that you'll have a run over 120 feet long (or 180) is really low, if so either you need to rethink how you run cables or you have an income to get a house large enough that 6A is easily affordable.
The biggest thing I've noticed to be an issue is actually in the termination of the cable and making sure you maintain the proper spec for maintaining the twist of the cable into the jack. If a home user can plan out runs under approx 150 feet and maintain good discipline in finishing the connectors you'll be fine.
Just in case the average home owner comes here and wants to install a 10 G system in their own house
Brandon Roth Yes one can get 10G on shorter lengths of cat 6. But I've seen test equipment replicating how noise injected on a line (think home electrical wire running all over, and category cabling next to it or crossing it repeatedly) causes video degradation in the form of 'snow' and dropped frames. It will cause the same issues on VoIP. And pathway sizes in houses certainly be a concern too. I acknowledge that as a real issue in some cases. But in many commercial applications, wiring is better routed and low volt cabling is kept 2" or more away from power. Residential wiring is generally installed as the crow flies, and much less carefully with regard to EMI and/or other electrical noises that can couple on a line. Just a consideration. I'd run 6A every chance I could. It is designed to be much more immune to outside interference. Lower categories were concerned primary with internal noise between the pairs. 6A is designed to also mitigate external noise from other cables and anything else. Until residential speeds are higher, none of this matters much just yet.
Terminations are probably the biggest general issue with performance though. You're right about that. Kinking with amateur installations might be second, followed by the EMI issues of installing by power. All my observations.
The higher the rated Frequency the more you will get attenuation. Which is why they rate over distance. You can run a CAT 5e farther then a CAT 6e. As the attenuation is lower on the CAT 5e. This is the issue with ever greater frequency a cable can carry. As you can't break Ohms law...
Joe C Dang I wish I had more than an elementary level understanding of what you guys are talking about.
10 Gigabit Copper Connections will die out because of the Energy Consumption. Network Cards consuming 20-30 Watts ? there's no Way that will survive.
You need to test the speeds at the max cable lengths that they all support, such as 50m. It would also be helpful to see the impact of interference elements such as fluorescent lights and power lines on each cable type.
Cat5: 100mbps max bandwidth (Discontinued)
up to 100 meters of length
100mhz speed
Cat5e: 1000mbps max bandwidth
up to 100 meters of length
100mhz speed
Cat6: 10gbps max bandwidth
up to 55 meters of length
250mhz speed
Cat6a: 10gbps max bandwidth
up to 100 meters of length
500mhz speed
Cat7: 10gbps max bandwidth
600mhz speed
Companies that claim to have "The Super And New Cat8" are most of the time lying
Tevs (cat5 is not discontinued) I seen it at Lowe’s when I was picking up cat5e
@@nolanpoitras8207 I have a CAT5 cable running from the router to my room. Didn't realize it's outdated though, yet it still seems to work at 250+ Mbps. It says CAT5 (Gigabit Tested).
So Cat5e is all that's needed for most internet connections?
@@MultiMagicGamers yep
CAT-5e is fine for any use you have. Anything better you won't see the benefit. It's only if you need higher bandwidth at 250 ft or more.
Just bought a Cat 8 2000 gghrz. Also noticed this video is 6 years ago! Welcome to the future
Thank you - very nicely done. FYI - we did CAT5e on the whole house years back and have had excellent speed and reliability out of that cable. It can handle a great deal more than we get from our ISP (NOT bitching about that). The wireless side of our system has be a lot more trouble and I really appreciate the CAT5e side.
It's rare to find a helpful video among all the A.I. clickbait. Thank you for making this video.
1GBps is your minimum damn I'm running here on 20mbps and the fastest I can go is 50mbps
I've got 500 kbps
I was running 3mbps I’ve now got 900mb since I’ve moved
8kbps
@@redacted5692 56k dialup here):
I was shocked that for him it's 1gb because I thought a 50-100mb mbps is the standard
When I worked at HP/EDS we used 10 gig switches, we had over 300,000 connections coming in at any given time. We supported the Airlines industries and Sabre.
Randall hodges how's Sabre doing now that they sold Dundee Mifflin back to David Wallace?
Which Sabre are you talking about?
Here are a few lessons learned from hard experience in my house ethernet wiring. My house was built in 2000 and was wired for coax and ethernet. Fast forward to 2021 and I wanted to run an AX WiFi router to get Gigabit WiFi speeds and needed at least a Gigabit backhaul wired connection to my cable modem. I had already upgraded my switches to Gigabit and could not understand why the best speed I could get was about 50 Megabits. I asked for help from the cable company and a knowledgeable technician informed me that my cables were terminated wrong for Gigabit and were wired for 10/100 Megabit. So I proceeded to replace the connectors with properly wired connectors. But could not get them to work properly. My cable tester would always give some pair of intermittent signals. I thought it was my connector work but after multiple efforts, I then looked at the cable and it was Cat 5 cable. All the runs were doubled down to my patch panel in the garage and then back up to the second floor so too long for Cat 5. I knew all my other components were good because a long patch cable from the cable modem to my AX router delivered about 500 Megabits. So yes the cables make a difference and so do the connector wiring scheme.
I had to roll out Cat7 cable in a nursing home where the original data cablers messed up and ran Telco everywhere instead of Cat5e as specified. The data ducts where all closed up so we had to trace the cables along the power lines (nursing home, no drilling allowed once the residents moved in). Unlike previous standards, the internal shielding of Cat7 allows it to be run alongside power cables. Super-expensive work-around but the only option we had at the time.
This is that dude that breaks peoples computers with his troll videos.
Papillon Effect ?
He never broke compurers, tutorials were just silly
YES, YES, YES, LOLOL
Cat5e can do 10Gbps up to 147ft if everything is properly terminated and the cable is solid core pure copper. And it is significantly easier to work with and properly terminate than the higher category cables. So the statement at 10:00 is objectively false.
Great video!!! I NOW understand the whole "cat, 5, 6, 7" crap!. Thanks man, truly!
I use a CAT 5e ethernet cable.
Trust me, it's still very great even today!
It has that nice 1 Gigabit per second internet speed.
What game system do you play on
in 20 years of doing IT, which includes regularly pulling wire from time to time, I've never come across a CAT5 cable that was actually spec'd down the CAT5 standards. They were always spec'd up to CAT5e. Before you go hauling cable out of your walls. Check the cable twist and shielding. If you con't have a Gigabit Internet connection, upgrading probably isn't worth it. Even if you're streaming local movies in 4K off a local Plex server, unless that single cable going to the server is shared with a bunch of other connections, you're likely fine with CAT5e for another 5-8years.
For a new installation, I would go at least Cat 6.
Here's something to consider too. Even for home use. Cat5e may be good for most situations. But if you have a lot of devices to wire up off of various switches and from a router, for me I use a cat6 cable as the main wire feeding the router and each switch. For the branch wire feeding the devices, some have the cat5e. I haven't gotten around to replacing them plus I can be a cheapskate. But I used the higher quality wire as the main wire so it can better handle the traffic from multiple devices at once. The cat5e that is feeding each device only has to handle 1 device. So if your like me, I would recommend at least replacing the main wire feeding your router and switches. It's not quite as necessary for the ones going to the device. I did replace the cat5e that feeds my Xbox with the better cable. But other than that, the cat5e serves me just fine. But there can be one other thing to consider that buying the better cables may help. If your having problems receiving radio such as AM/FM for example. Or if your someone who is into things like amateur radio that transmits radio signals, the better wire with better shielding such as the cat7 may be a good choice to help keep out all of the extra radio signals that can be floating around. Especially if your computer and radio equipment are in close proximity of each other.
One other thing, if your building a house and wiring it with internet, future-proof your house and just bite the bullet and put the cat7 or whatever the best Ethernet cable is at the time (I say at the time because I'm sure that at some point a better wire will come out since this post. If they come out with a cat10 cable, get it) in while the walls are open. And by using the cable with the better shielding helps to better protect it while in the walls. Don't forget the your electrical wiring is in the walls as well. This could also include phone wiring and TV cable as well as other possible wires which at some point will end up crossing one another. Don't forget the electric wire has no shielding and 90% of the tme, your internet wire and the wires to power your computer and equipment come close together. By using the best cable will help to shield out any interference that could happen because of the other wires.
when you don't need notification cos you're on UA-cam 24/7
Same!
Exactly (same here) :3
truth
(im not though ;-;)
all of you should get a job lazy ass
John S better yet, having a job that allows you to watch UA-cam 23:55/7 lol
10:30 And this is why I always laughing (at the most postitive) when people say that "USB-C now can reach...." a speed. I mean, indeed "RJ-45 can now reach 10 Gb/s!":D In fact, RJ-45 can't, the cable can. Your video is proof of this. It's not about the port - so not about RJ-45 or USB-C - but all about the cable and the protocol. The protocol is the language the devices speak over the connection. If they talk faster, they can move data faster. Logical. This is why we talk about 'handshaking': "Hi, I'm a 10 Gb/s cable! "- "Hey, I'm a 10 Gb/s port! We can talk at the same speed!".
Every time he says “test”. I think about when he made me wrap my phone charger around a pen to get better cellular connection. You got me lol
Wait does that actually work? Like will my phone charge faster?
YOXYO nah lmao it was a joke video
Knowing about cat3 and cat5 can be important. Cat3 is basically just 2 wires for phones. But if you have 2 cat3 connections in one room, you can combine them to a cat5 and get 100mb/s without having to rewire your home. I used that trick in two buildings already.
Marco, totally wrong. Cat1 was 2 twisted pair copper POTS for phones. Cat 2 was 4 twisted pair. Cat3 was unshielded twisted pair rated to 10 Mbps which was used for computer networking. Cat4 was an improvement to Cat3 but is now defunct. Actually all of these are no longer in the TIA 568-C specification.
@@gbinman Thanks for the correction. So I confused cat 1 and cat 3. Although there difference is just in specification.
Although now i'm curious. I did use the combining trick at my parents house. It must have technically been cat 1 then. Maybe I was lucky or the runs are just short enough.
@@marcopfeiffer3032 As you said, with a small number of short runs pretty much anything will work. The full spec is for lots of 100 meter runs. Your solution with that model would have been a horrible failure.
...I haven't seen anything 'out there' but CAT-5 cable, ThioJoe. I use CAT-5 for my home network which consists of several ten plus year old desktops.
Tinkering around with computers are one of my ''Hey, I'm retired and this is what I like to do'' hobbies.
I did not know about the CAT 6a or the Cat 7, which seems to be more for commercial use as in Servers of 'In The Cloud' storage units.
So, I learned something today, ThioJoe....now to retain it.
Thanks for the video. It was informative.
Excellent explanation. Good job! I just threw a CAT5 cable into the trash can.
Couldve used it for other stuff
Can’t believe I’m watching a 12 minute video on Ethernet cables
Can't believe it's 100% relevant 7 years later!
The most entertaining aspect of this video is watching to see how long you could speak without blinking. Presentation is great but the extended eye contact was intense. LOL thank you for quality content.
I remember dealing with standards as old as CAT3 ethernet, still RJ45, but 10baseT, a 10Mbps transfer rate. That was more than good enough for afew DOS and Linux computers sharing a dot-matrix printer.
difference was huge for me especially when it came to transfer speeds within my home network from PC to NAS devices - also improved bandwidth to those devices and completely did away with all the periodic inconvenient drop outs, That was CAT5E to CAT7 - now I am changing to CAT8 and expect more improvements so thats me and my experience!
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where are you getting cat 8 from ?
@@OT-tn7ci I found CAT8 Ethernet cables of varying lengths on Amazon Australia. I've swapped all my Ethernet cables to CAT8 and noticed huge improvements to.
@@catminister1075 oooh, improvement in speed and what length cable?
@@OT-tn7ci improvement specifically in regards to drop-outs, network transfer speeds of large video files from PC or Laptop to 10gbe NAS, especially over longer distances and cable lengths. I use shorter cabled for switches, router/modem and longer to reach other rooms and devices since I try to avoid wireless use.
Yes, all the above information is useful, some information I want to add for those who are preparing to buy a new house is to use a best Cat8 wire, probably about 10M to connect your internet from the set. routed to an internet repeater. Make sure the amplifier is in the middle of the house, from there you can expand to many other Cat6 or Cat7 wires to other LAN devices in the house without worrying about signal loss due to distance. long wires, usually amplifiers can make the signal strength go farther than 300M, eliminating the limitation of wires
It has been 15 years since I moved to the new house, the Cat.5E cable still hasn't reached its limit.
I wired my house with Cat6. Works great! Definitely getting the right bandwidth!
I moved into my current apartment just over two months ago. When I was getting my CenturyLink modem setup, I noticed that my apartment was outfitted with Cat 5e! Thank you for this video!
What isn't practical is the five foot length. You can't tell anything using that short of cable.
Thanks for the explanation of cable differences. I am running an exterior line to my she-shed from the house connection, as my wireless option is inconsistent. The Spectrum guy said Cat 5, so I needed to know what the variations meant! I checked out a lot of videos and yours was the best.: simple, direct, and no long introduction to assault my senses. Thanks so much!!!
Butch
I love listening to you, you explain things so we can understand . Thats great. Thanks.
There were no difference because it's make more sense in a big data server. The problem is the network that you receive do not come direct from the optical fiber cable....
Normal users can't see the real difference because our network infrastructure.
Thanks, running about 30 meters in my house, good to know my cat6a will be fine for a while.
I have Cat10. Thio taught me all I have to do is twist a pair of Cat5 together to get double the stream. Thanks Thio. :)
2:30 - Shielding? You can have unshielded and shielded Cat 5e. The Cat 5e didn’t have better “shielding” then Cat 5.
Correct. Cat5e had to have better twisted pairs. You could technically use a Cat3 wire to make a cat5 cable, although for the price point, it would just be silly to do, even back in the day. Cat 6 started with some crazy braided wire thing that magically erased some of the cross talk that happened every so many feet. Then they squished the braid to make the cat6 ribbon cables.
THOSE were the first ones I jumped on, because a flat ribbon cable is much nicer to toss in your laptop bag.
I haven't even heard of 6a and 7 until just now. Not sure that 6a would be much benefit. I can TOTALLY see the benefit of ripping out all of the 5e patch cables in a switch room and changing them out to Cat7.
First time viewer of your channel. Great video. I do wish you had pointed out to your viewers that if they were going to put permanent cables in the walls and ceiling, that they should use plenum cable. These have no "toxic fumes" in fire/ over heating, because of different coatings on the cables. You might also point out that the extra shielding eliminates interference from fluorescent fixtures. Given the amount of CFL's in use now in recessed fixtures, it is note worthy. For anyone doing home recording studios, the extra shielding is a must. Again, loved your vid.
Just recently removed the only CFL lightbulb at home
It's wild to me that people even use these anymore
Bad color quality + slightly dangerous = not a good light
That`s for internet,as for extender hdmi,you need to get cat 6 or 7,since cat 5 at least with 15 meters you will not get any signal,so keep that in mind.
Hi Thio, I’m a network cabling engineer in the uk. Most people in there homes don’t even plug in their equipment and rely on the WIFI from their router. Network cabling is mainly used for business and institutions. The highest specs are used in data centres where all of the cloud based stuff we use is stored. Great video thanks for taking the time to do the test. 👍
Might be true in your country but in the rest of the world there is alot of high end gamers and a true gamer uses a cable because its reiliable :) Ofcourse there is a few that uses wifi but the mejority uses cables
Might mention CCA = copper clad aluminium vs. pure copper cables. When running power over Ethernet, 23 gauge CCA is worse than 24 gauge copper, and I wonder about the danger of corrosion in CCA, particularly if you're doing something hard to redo like a buried cable or wiring a building.
Was going to mention this, and for what it's worth this is also an issue for coax (Cable TV) cable as well. Spectrum/TWC uses CCS while Dish used Copper. It actually does make a difference, if you're going to wire your house, get the good stuff and do it once. The wire can still corrode on the exposed tips but with coax and data and p
hone you should be leaving at least 12 inches spare behind the wall to prepare for this. If you can corrode through that much your walls are already turning to slush with humidity that high lol
wtf since when do they sell this new crap metal?
My WiFi is being annoying today so this video helped me make the decision to game with a cable 😀
cool shirt
but it's just a black t shirt
ThioJoe lol from where
there's a black hole picture at the the front
an bo: target
lol
I think the CAT7 cable makes sense for real-time applications like audio/video recording studios and obscenely expensive custom home theater and gaming installations, where bandwidth and latency requirements are more stringent, and you particularly want to minimize packet retransmission, because there are a bunch more packets already in the pipeline right behind that one. I like dogs better than cats, but I try to be nice to people who like cats anyway.
Most of the Cat standards come in a selection of flavours. And a description of the Reason why you might want Cat5 FTP over non foil wrapped could be included.
FTP = better exclusion of cross talk from other cable run alongside.
UFTP or segregated pairs are used to improve cross talk internally on the cable. This can become more relevant for l non network Cat applications like CCTV, KVM units, Lighting Art net or systems that put power down the cable.
Cat6a is noted to also have better power handling due to its larger gauge. It has improved voltage loss.
Some negatives not mentioned is that Cat6 can be more fragile, shielded Cat5e can offer good durability with a small form factor. Cat6a it’s harder to work with it is larger, stiffer and take longer to make off.
Also Cat6 is 250mhz and Cat6A is 500mhz Whitch means it works in the same frequency range as Wi-Fi networks. In some cases this may cause issues.
Secondarily it is worth mentioning benifits of grounding Cat cabling. Many projects ground at the rack only so it can act as a interference drain.
When correctly installed Cat6A should be the best however many projects would benefit from foil wrapped Cat5e.
Some KVM units actually request non-foil wrapped Cat5.
I use a real cat
If you used all the CAT on YT you'd have a huge network... but strangely a bit like the the human centipede, good luck with that.
Lol
LMAO wtf
*peta joined the chat*
Insert cat metaphor here.
Men Am watching this in Africa 2023...this information still helping
This makes a difference internally…. Maybe not over the net because of all of the other variables involved but locally yes. My own experience going from Cat5e to cat6 gave me a 75% increase in speeds.
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thank you! that was really helpful! i wasnt sure what was best for buying for University but 6 or 5e are best from your info.
I realise that this video was made 7 years ago. In professional AV systems, where we are transporting high resolution video in real-time as in AVoIP, the bandwidth that the cable can carry is REALLY important, especially with 4K. Cat 6A is acceptable, BUT not all 6A cables can do high bandwidth. So we specify the approved brands and type, including connectors.
AS usual, your vids are informative - well done.
4:34 "Cat5e, Cat56." XD Great Video.
I feel like the video should have started with; “it doesn't make a difference, here is why” XD
You can totally do 10gb on CAT5e under 55m. A friend and I use within the same room, closer to 4 to 10 feet. For the only long 10gb line that I plan to run, I will probably use OC. I'm just comparing the cost of 150 feet cat6a to the cost of a SFP+ NIC (already got a switch and transceivers).
You are correct, for short run cabling the spec isn't real important. If you had 50 100 meter runs, it matters.
That is a big drop off, for dudes like me with 6mbps download speed thts very important
Bro you have 6, I have 1.5😂
@@earpnstein371 check it, i used to have 0.7!
8:14 - Another pointless test, all the cables can do gigabit Ethernet up to 50ft. You just verified what they said it would do. Test 10gbps, and test longer lengths. That is where it matters.
Great job explaining and breaking down the different types. Advertising nowadays is usually more confusing than helpful. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video and share it with all of us. If you ever redo this video or come back and revisit this topic, can you please make the test using longer cables? I suspect you will see differences as you approach the hundred meter mark. As always thumbs up and I am subscribed with notifications turned on!
Separating cats that don't get along together well with a metal wall will in fact reduce interference between the cats.
Bibasik7 Lmao!! I sat there for mins thinking there was a hair on my phone
LOL... I even tried to remove hair from my Lape!
Here in Puerto Rico most of the time I recommend my clients sticking with Cat5e since our ISPs don't provide speeds that justify using higher categories. Unless they're making internal networking that takes advantage of the bandwidth of higher categories (and even then most domestic ethernet devices cap at 1Gb/s), just save the money and stick with Cat5e.
You are fantastic as usual. Thank you for the advice 👍👍🤗
I ran cat 6 to my loft but although I got the job done in the end, it was a nightmare trying to put on the rj45 connector. I had to buy connectors that were designed for cat6 but they were still very difficult. I also found that the wires snapped quite easily which is a big concern. I dont think you can properly test these cables unless you run them very long distances like 100m. I would like to see that test.
*I wouldn't say it's just marketing purposes. As an electrician who's ran long runs of Ethernet, generally speaking CAT5 all the way up to cat 8 at around 50 ft or so, can deliver about 2.5 gigabit. Most cables from CAT5 and up can reach gigabit speeds as long as the cable is adequate length. The only reason cat 7 and cat 8 make a big deal is when a large infrastructures start to reach that limit of 100 m, cat 6 at 100 m isn't going to deliver the full 2.5 gigabit because of data loss in length. Respectively cat 7 and cat 8 is told to be able to deliver around 40 GB per second at less than 100 m. So to get that speed you have to upgrade the wire at the same distance, so cat 7 and 8 have that special shield that protect the data transmission, and will be at the higher end of 10gigabit/40gigabit AFTER 100m while cat 5 and 6 will be at the lower end after 100m. Real world scenario though, cat5e will work for most home and small business needs simply because cat5e can carry more than one gigabit but the trade-off is after about 50 m.*
But this all this is without using PoE, which is not taken into account in the video.
3:52 - “Could have” a “plastic core”. It’s called a center binder, and it’s a TIA requirement.
If possible, it would be really cool to see a comparison of customizing / shortening the cables or installing it on punchdowns.
One really cool benefit of cat5e is it's relative moderate ability to add a rj45 connector and still get gig speeds. I still mess up and have to re-cable ends at times.
useful and informative for people like me who are not technical geeks. In fact recently when I wanted to buy internet cable for my desktop connecting ACT fibernet I was searching on the net as to what is cat 5 and cat 6. Thanks for clearly explaining.
Future proofing indeed. When I upgraded my home to 10 gigabit Ethernet, all I had to do was change the network cards and the switch.
I choose Cat 6 for all cables inside my home. IMO Cat 5e will be towards EOL in a few years...
Ricci Choi nah it won’t be. It’s still good for CCTV and people who chose slower internet plans
I only now switched out my CAT5 cable. I switched to a faster internet plan with gigabit internet, so it finally wasn't enough anymore. It's honestly still not bad, could do anything I wanted, even streaming at 4K (if you are the only one using it). I just needed faster internet because I am moving larger files online now.
7:38 - You tested a 5ft cable... pointless test.
sorry i dont have enough knowlegde. i have a 5ft cat5e cable. does that mean its as good as a cat7. if not it is enough to play any game on good connection?
TheCreamer Cr no a cat7 will be better if your internet can take it
TheCreamer Cr get cat9 if you can its only $1200
@@throwaway6914 only. ok its already bought
@@thecreamercr2158 Won't make a fucking difference with your regular household internet set up.
Unfortunately if you are a renter you usually cant use any of these. Most land lords wont allow more than 4 cats.
use a powerline adaptor
VERGIS92 he was being sarcastic he ment like real cats lol
@@igotklampz-883 seems, I am too focused on wiring problems, missed the joke... nonetheless, most engineers won't usually tell you about powerline adaptors
As a former ET I have some experience with this. Physically routing the cable as a home or even Business installation, can be confusing.
1. Will you be forced to lay/run a cable next to an AC power line?
1-answer. The CAT-5 can pick up that noise, and send it down to the server/modem/router AND to the computer. A cable crossing the power line won't hurt it.
Cat-7 is (each pair is shielded) and (the whole bundle is shielded) .
2-Who, and how, was the cable made.
2-Answer. If the shields are not grounded, you WILL get RF leakage, both in and out. If BOTH ends are grounded, now you have an antenna waveguide, so any noise intrusion, from equipment or a nicked shield, expect that both ends are receiving the noise. For a PROPER (spurious noise drain) ensure that the Vendor or cable maker, or the DIY crowd, you connect only one end to ground.
The other end, cut off all ground wires and shield wrap, Back to the outer insulation.
Hi, I hope ThioJoe or someone can answer this -
What's the difference in ping time between cable types?
Has anyone measured the difference in performance in 20 meters or longer?
What's the intranet (within local network) file transfer speed comparison between cable types?
Thanks in advance!
Tim's List I see nobody has answered you.
Ping speed really depends on the steps between you and the destination inclusive of both. If you’re going through the internet chances are anything outside of your network is going to be 99% of the factors that matter.
For local the router and switches will be the delaying factor inclusive of sending and receiving machine.
If wired correctly and for short distances you will see no difference between these ratings for request and response. If you’re using long distances consider your cable run. If you’re likely to be running near other cabling and over longer distances, get the better rating. For an install cable it’s not worth saving the money as the insulation in the cable will help keep out the interference that you may pick up on the way. In reality your biggest network issue will be continued quality of connection as oppose to initial call and response speed.
If ping speeds are slow you need to look at the steps between you and the destination. Somewhere along the way there’s a slow hop and it needs dealing with.
Ping time depends on the distance between your device and the destination; and the number of switches in between.
I am using a Cat5 and just found out. I was wondering about why my new router was faster with Wifi than Ethernet and just found out it was because of the cable. Unfurtunately the cable runs through the wall to my room so I am not sure it's worth it to change it (since my speed would go from around 100Mbs to 150Mbs)
Do it
How did you resolve Cat5 issue. Like to get some tip/input from you. I have the same problem. The wall waring is the bottle neck . Not allowing me to go above 100 MBPS
@@bharatkotecha2191 To be honest no. I mean it is a cable issue, the cable is just transferring the data fast enough. It's up to you whether you want to buy a newer cable and if it is worth it for you.For me no, as I would gain 50Mbits and would need to put cables through the wall. If you dont need to put it through a wall just get any cheap ethernet cable today as it will not be Cat5 for sure.
Excellent video as always. I recently went from 100mbps to 300mbps. Was unaware of Cat 5 max speeds. I have CAT 5e
What about upload speeds and ping?
For upload he said it wasn't stable so he didn't count it
abood tube396 and ping?
@@ryazortheeyezor1548 well that idk