I appreciate the demo, but the resistance rating mentioned is misleading. They have a low resistance because Jason uses a different gauge wire. If the gauge of wire is different between 2 pickups you cannot use resistance as a measure of output or relative tone.
I really don't get why most people hate these. I can safely say these sound a good deal better than any EMG, Seymour Duncan, or DiMarzio that I've heard or tried.
A much more useful pickup demo/review would be one where you presented the demo models next to a relatively well-known quantity, like stock Gibson ceramics or alnicos. Same setup from guitar to signal chain to amp with the same settings on every component.. for each set of pickups. Jordan even showed us how this would best work. At around 3:30 he started playing some riffs over and over. You could have done one measure with the Lollars, then splice in one measure with the reference pickups.. back and back again.. then move onto another riff.. maybe something done with a different pickup position and different vol/tone settings.. Run through that sort of direct comparison for a few minutes and we'll have a good idea of whether we really like the demo pickups or not.
funny thing about pickups is nobody can seem to hear a guitar and say "I like the way it sounds". It's always "I can't tell if I like the way it sounds without knowing how it sounds next to something else". A/B comparisons are OK, but if you have a preference (I am an amateur builder), you'll end up convincing yourself to make or buy a dozen guitars all with the same pickups and electronics because you always like one more in an A/B comparisons. That's kind of pointless.
Not necessarily. The A/B lets you figure out whether the flattering or unflattering characteristics are unique to the pickup, or part of the signal chain (amp, speaker cab, mic, pedals, etc). This demo sounds hideously shrill to me, but if he played a standard Telecaster and it sounded even more hideously shrill, then I'd be able to say, "Ah, OK, so these are actually a bit thicker than a Tele, it's just that he has hearing damage or something and is cranking the bejeezus out of the treble and presence on the amp." It's useful to isolate variables like that. Some of the other El Rayo demos make them sound like balanced, juicy single coils. Are they running through super dark amps to compensate, or are they running "average" amp settings? Impossible to tell unless you get some additional reference points.
The only thing harder than describing the taste of food with words, is describing sound with them. Always makes me smile when I see Jordan looking around, searching his vocabulary for the most appropriate adjective to describe what he's hearing. "Woody" is a good one. It's a tough job and one that he does quite well. His written reviews are the best out there, bar none. Thank you PG, for being the industry magazine that so many others try to be but fail miserably.......
Seymour Duncan Jazz Model Bridge and Neck pickups sound a lot like this, it seems. I have the SD Jazz in both positions. Sounds similar to the Lollars here. Whether these Lollars or the Seymour Duncans sounds better would be best determined by side by side demo. The SDs are cheaper though by fair margin...
That's the best way to ruin a Gibson Les Paul (put shity pick up on it) if you want great boutique pickups try , bare knuckes , rio grande or stick to the gibson's or Di Marzio's SD does the job too. but really 157 bucks for those shits I don't think so.
These pickups sounds anemic ! Just put the Gibson pickups back on that Les Paul, man ! You're ruining that Gibson Les Paul tone quality...I'd rather use Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio pickups, they sound a lot better than that "garbage". Not to mention, SD and Dimarzio are priced just right, unlike this stupid Lollar, they are way overpriced, and for what???
Do you know what sting and gauge they are using here? @@billyperry3059 Honestly thought, they do not sound good in this video to me. They do however they sound amazing in another vid in another lp.... I realy think the strings and amp, and especially the player matter more than the PU, but again, it is all relative. What size room and mic?...
@madmatt1 They set the amp way to bright. This even sounds harsh for a Telecaster, which is not how the pickups actually sound. You can make anything sound rough running through this harsh an amp.
I appreciate the demo, but the resistance rating mentioned is misleading. They have a low resistance because Jason uses a different gauge wire. If the gauge of wire is different between 2 pickups you cannot use resistance as a measure of output or relative tone.
I really don't get why most people hate these. I can safely say these sound a good deal better than any EMG, Seymour Duncan, or DiMarzio that I've heard or tried.
Those are some impressive pickups! Lollars are the best on the market and they keep getting better!
A much more useful pickup demo/review would be one where you presented the demo models next to a relatively well-known quantity, like stock Gibson ceramics or alnicos.
Same setup from guitar to signal chain to amp with the same settings on every component.. for each set of pickups.
Jordan even showed us how this would best work. At around 3:30 he started playing some riffs over and over. You could have done one measure with the Lollars, then splice in one measure with the reference pickups.. back and back again.. then move onto another riff.. maybe something done with a different pickup position and different vol/tone settings..
Run through that sort of direct comparison for a few minutes and we'll have a good idea of whether we really like the demo pickups or not.
funny thing about pickups is nobody can seem to hear a guitar and say "I like the way it sounds". It's always "I can't tell if I like the way it sounds without knowing how it sounds next to something else". A/B comparisons are OK, but if you have a preference (I am an amateur builder), you'll end up convincing yourself to make or buy a dozen guitars all with the same pickups and electronics because you always like one more in an A/B comparisons. That's kind of pointless.
Not necessarily. The A/B lets you figure out whether the flattering or unflattering characteristics are unique to the pickup, or part of the signal chain (amp, speaker cab, mic, pedals, etc). This demo sounds hideously shrill to me, but if he played a standard Telecaster and it sounded even more hideously shrill, then I'd be able to say, "Ah, OK, so these are actually a bit thicker than a Tele, it's just that he has hearing damage or something and is cranking the bejeezus out of the treble and presence on the amp."
It's useful to isolate variables like that. Some of the other El Rayo demos make them sound like balanced, juicy single coils. Are they running through super dark amps to compensate, or are they running "average" amp settings? Impossible to tell unless you get some additional reference points.
The only thing harder than describing the taste of food with words, is describing sound with them. Always makes me smile when I see Jordan looking around, searching his vocabulary for the most appropriate adjective to describe what he's hearing. "Woody" is a good one. It's a tough job and one that he does quite well. His written reviews are the best out there, bar none. Thank you PG, for being the industry magazine that so many others try to be but fail miserably.......
Seymour Duncan Jazz Model Bridge and Neck pickups sound a lot like this, it seems. I have the SD Jazz in both positions. Sounds similar to the Lollars here. Whether these Lollars or the Seymour Duncans sounds better would be best determined by side by side demo. The SDs are cheaper though by fair margin...
I’m buying a second hand epiphone les Paul special, it has this humbucker in the bridge does that really matter?
That's a big upgrade from the epiphone pickups
This guy must start playing an Explorer. Because one of these days, he will forget to zip up his fly.
Exactly what i was looking for.
Does anyone tell me what is woody tone???
what cable is he using??
Wow, very tasty! I wanna take this guitar plug it into my tonebender and start playing No Quarter from Zeppelin.
It throws you off....you think someone's playing a telecaster, then you look up and "oh....". Can't say a les Paul is a good choice for this pup.
He's quoting Jerry Reed. It ain't legal hunting alligators down in the swamp, boy...
interesting
65Amps have to be the ugliest amps ever made.
The amp would seem to be a poor choice here.
Put the Gibson's back in( ouch)
Please tune your guitar when doing demos. The guitar sounds too bright and harsh.
LOLOLOOLOLOOLO hell no.
Nah bro emg 81s in both positions on it. burnuckle an gibson an evrything sucks
Shite!
That's the best way to ruin a Gibson Les Paul (put shity pick up on it)
if you want great boutique pickups try , bare knuckes , rio grande or stick to the gibson's or Di Marzio's SD does the job too.
but really 157 bucks for those shits I don't think so.
3:10 crappy jam..
These pickups sounds anemic ! Just put the Gibson pickups back on that Les Paul, man ! You're ruining that Gibson Les Paul tone quality...I'd rather use Seymour Duncan and Dimarzio pickups, they sound a lot better than that "garbage". Not to mention, SD and Dimarzio are priced just right, unlike this stupid Lollar, they are way overpriced, and for what???
Have you heard them in person, or just this one video?
@@madmatt1 For some people, that won't make a difference.
Do you know what sting and gauge they are using here? @@billyperry3059
Honestly thought, they do not sound good in this video to me. They do however they sound amazing in another vid in another lp.... I realy think the strings and amp, and especially the player matter more than the PU, but again, it is all relative. What size room and mic?...
@madmatt1 They set the amp way to bright. This even sounds harsh for a Telecaster, which is not how the pickups actually sound. You can make anything sound rough running through this harsh an amp.
Painful get a pro to do the demos
"killer sounding" what a stupid phrase...