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It would be nice to know the total cost: guitar + pickups + wiring harness + labor. I've often thought it makes sense to search for a well-built "budget" guitar and then upgrade it rather than buying a brand new "standard" model.
This comment needs more likes! Great comment.
Depends. If you’re going to keep it, it’s worth it. You’ll never see that money again if you try to sell it. The cost of the pickups, the wiring harness, and the labor should all be considered as a “loss” because most people aren’t going to pay you more for a guitar just because it’s upgraded to what you like.
@@phillipsouthard8285 I've owned roughly 20 guitars in the past 7 years. I now have 6. None of them were "upgraded" significantly. Of the 14 guitars, 10 sold for $100-200 less than I paid for them and 4 sold for the same or more. I don't have an issue with this because I look at it as the cost of finding a guitar that I can bond with. A rental fee, if you will. I should also mention that included in those 14 guitars was a Strat, a SG, and an ES-339. The rest were G&L and Godin. None of these guitars were "bad." Mostly, I sold them because they weren't my cup of tea or I needed to thin out the herd a bit.
@@mikeaustin4138 yeah, that’s about how much I lose each time I sell one (I’ve been through a lot in the past few years). But I’m talking about the loss when you do upgrade one. I would not suggest upgrading a guitar unless you absolutely love it and plan on keeping it. I’ve found that it’s better just to buy a better guitar than to upgrade a cheaper one.
@@phillipsouthard8285 To a knowledgeable player, good quality upgrades may or may not get you a bit more on resale. But what they will do is make it a more appealing purchase to a player, particularly if you keep the work receipts or have a good series of photos of the work if you do it yourself, as I do.
It IS your guitar after all. It is worth the upgrades for the joy of better playing.
I have no fear of drilling holes in a $3,000 instrument if it makes it better for me to play. My favorite mod is a master volume on the lower horn, like Gretsch has.
The first I thought when I heard the stock Casino: give the eq-knobs on the amp a tiny twist and than compare it to the Lollars.
I would love a full series of Ben just fixing and modding guitars!
Ben made that look so easy
Yup 🤟😎🍻🔥💯
That was indeed very interesting to a non-tech person.
Dover?
@@DMSProduktions Ben from Dover
Awesome swap. The clarity and drive of the new pickups are amazing.
Really liked that you followed him through every step of the upgrade -- so many good tips and tricks, especially when working with hollows/semis. After my own DIY attempt on a 335 copy several years ago I said "never again" -- and that's still pretty much the case -- I learned a lot about what I did wrong and how I might do better if I ever dare attempt it. Thanks!
I clicked on the notification on my phone and it tells me this video is unavailable on this device. All the other videos I've watched of yours have worked perfectly fine on my phone before.
Same here.
Thanks Rhett for being online. I have been playing off and on for over 5 decades but, I have found I can always improve my skills, by listening and learning. Keep up the good work.
TBH changing the pick up covers and adding one meg pots would've achieved fairly similar results in a fraction of the cost IMO
Been considering doing this to my casino for a while now. Awesome seeing/hearing the difference in this vid
He is literally playing through a different amp. Its a dumble clone. They got a lot of mids and they sound amazing.
So cool to see a pro at work… amazing skill and knowledge!
A great upgrade man! Sounds, great thank you for sharing!
Beautiful workmanship and MUCH improved high end tone. Congrats Rhett!
Wow! This tech is like an "E.R." guitar surgeon with his hands and skills! Thank You to this guitar Doctor for his gracious demonstration of his wonderful skills and knowledge. Absolutely great. I would go to this store in a heartbeat just to visit.
The build quality of many inexpensive guitars has gotten so good, just choosing great pickups and optimum electronics yields a wonderful sound. I did the same with a Chinese set neck LP Jr = Fantastic. And also with an older Korean made Hamer 335. The Hamer build quality was superb. Thank you Rhett
I've been on a mission the last 30 mo to build a clean variety of nice playing generally no-name guitars that happen to have excellent chassis i learned to make and install custom electronics upgrades...to astonishingly excellent effect!
Not worried about recouping $ spent. Interested in learning and understanding what works best with what, and how to make what's not working anymore work again better than ever...
Great episode, nice to see how you can upgrade a $700 guitar into something very special, figure there is what? $1100+- in real money invested in that casino now,...? and it plays like a $2500+ guitar....
One can work absolute wonders on - $200 - $400 guitars, that meet a basic criteria of quality and performance...chassis wise : wood, construction materials, with a cpl hundred $ in pups, electronics and a little ( or ALOT if yr Rhett...) time and care.
I think that Today is another "Golden Age" for (broke) guitarists. I mean, right now even Harley Benton has a very, very good quality Fusion Pro III series with well executed, name brand 'Blacksmith' Stainless Steel frets, with "flame" roasted maple necks or very nice Ebony fingerboard options and flamed maple (veneer) tops with Wilkinson tremolos standard to boot?! I've got one and it is VERY GOOD and I'm comparing it to my American Standard Fender Strat, Gretsch Electromatic Jet, G&L Tribute Doheny or even my Mexican Charvel. I've got the Ebony board on mine and it is very nice. This for just about $350? Even the Roswell pups sound good and well rounded, not too trebly, but, those with hearing loss will perceive them as "dull" since they've lost some of their higher frequency hearing perception.
thank you for sharing this info! love the sound of these new puckups!
Wow. Super slick work. Fascinating to watch.
I did the exact same mods on my Casino and the difference was night and day. I love the sound of the Lollar P-90s. That snarly nasally tone the harder you dig in is just fun.
I’ve found that with Epiphone hollow bodies that a violin soundpost setter is really handy for pushing the pots through the body. New pots and caps will improve the stock pickup’s sound, new pickups improve the stock pots ands caps sound, but together makes a huge difference. Doing a fret level and polish really wakes these things up a surprising amount.
This was a cool upgrade, what a great sound. Thanks for sharing. You have one very good guitar tech!
Great video, Rhett, and probably the best commercial ever for any Guitar Tech Who Knows What He's Doing. The bonus is you got out of it a real keeper to make cool sounds with.
Awesome upgrade. Lollar is so clearer and funner. Cut thru the mix. Sounds so good!
(I love Lollar Wide Field PU' S on hollow body teles).
Great tech Ben. Nice Rhett very good upgrade.
I purchased a brand new Epiphone Wildcat a couple years ago. That's basically the same guitar with a Bixby and slightly different wiring diagram. I absolutely loves the way it it played. It was so comfortable and as a guy that plays mainly acoustic guitars it felt a little more like home plus I love P90s. I don't know what I had plugged it into at this little country jewelry store with a guitar problem but it even sounded great through the lil amp. The problem came when I brought it home and hooked it up to my rig and then subsequently hooked it up to almost a dozen different amps and even straight in to my PA through my board and there was 1 common problem and that is it was such a dark, muddy no shitty sounding in everything i plugged it into unless I completely tweeked the tone to some extremes throughout the chain and it still wasn't ideal. It just didn't make sense and sure did not sound like a P90 hollow body should sound. I tried new strings NYXLs and threw on a roller bridge. That still did not make much difference. After some digging, research and testing I found out the problem was the crap coaxial cable the factory wires them with. These guitars are wired so that each pickup has a volume and there is a master volume that is located toward the bottom horn and the switch is on top like a les paul. That is a lot of wire, a lot of bad wire that has an extremely high impedance. This curcuit doesn't need anymore help in that department but it is that wire that robs all the tone and makes them sound so dark and shitty. Seriously the stock pickups are actually pretty good but most would never know that. The parts are even decent, not exactly ideal but if you want it to sound as it should and are on a budget all that must be done is just change out the wire. I upgraded the pots and switch because I was there but I kept the stock pickups because I had heard they were just fine with the proper wire and good P90s can be expensive unless you make them. I haven't once considered new pickups since the rewire and I ended up using those stock parts else where and they seem alright. Long story short just change the wire. If Epiphone would just spend an extra dollar or 2 and wired these with a better wire from the factory I Garauntee they would sell a whole lot more of them. Then they wouldn't need anything exept new strings and a roller if it has a trem/vib and these guitars would be impossible to rival at this price range. I am Glad to see that you appreciate them too and knowing that you also found them to sound too dark and really muddy is reassuring because now I am certain I didn't just loose my mind. Lol
Bigsby
@@sydmccreath4554 who cares. 🤷🏼♂️ doesn't matter what kind of tremolo, well technically Vibrato, that a guitar has I never use them anyway. However, I once had a Hagstrom super swede tremar with their version of a bigsby and it was so smooth and balanced you could operate it with your pinky. That one I should have kept. I may have started using it.
After reading this I'm hoping to upgrade the wiring on my Casino.. love the guitar and it's playability but the overly dark, muddy tone make it difficult to use live. Thanks for posting your findings, you may have given me a solution.. 👍
@@wdbmusicchannel3849 that's great. I'm happy to hear that. Let us know how it works out for you. I swear if epiphone had only spent between .50cent and $2 more on the wiring they would have a couple monsters on their hands. I just can't believe I didn't notice it when I first tried it out. That must have been one terrible amp I was plugged into.
nope. Epi Wildkat is semi hollow. Casino is hollow. totally different animal
WOW! What a difference! The new pickups sound FANTASTIC!
Such a sweet and amazing sound!!! Love the lollar pickups feel that they have. Twangy; you said it right.
I actually liked the original Epiphone sound. People tend to rate an improvement using the tone range of their favorite “other guitar” as a benchmark eg it sounds closer to my XXX now. I’m currently in the process of buying a standard Epiphone Casino natural. So long as all the hardware is functional I’ll keep it standard. Don’t want it to mimic my other guitars.
Yes, just go and listen to the sound on Rhett's first video after receiving the Casino ... the original pickups don't sound "muddy" at all. The amp settings on this video sound different.
@@MrAdopado Agree 100%. However, I also agree to each their own. But, I do like the original pick-ups on his first video on this guitar. I think that is because of his amp. The quality of Chinese guitars is often better than American made guitars and at a lower price - yet I think he may have found fault with the original because Loller has a better reputation than some "Chinese" pick-up. The authentic sound of a Casino was made to sound very generic to my ear. Funny how price or where a guitar is built will change a person's perception or favorability of sound quality.
I agree. The original PU's are less aggressive and more "gentle" to my ear, which suits a hollow body IMO. I like them better than the new ones.
So I have my John Lennon style Casino now. I did s much better upgrade: I had a bone nut put in. Had the guitar PLEKed, frets polished, action and intonation set up by my guitar tech in Switzerland. Result: great mellow hollow body. To get the sound in the video of the Lollars I just switch guitars to my Gibson 336 custom shop and turn the bright switch on for my Fender Amp.
You can't make a video if you leave it alone
That is amazing Brett, from mud to sparkle. I had the same experience with my China-made Ibanez AS-73 - played great but sounded like there was a pillow over the amp. Threw in a set of Fralin's Pure PAFs (that cost me more than the guitar), used an RS Guitarworks wiring harness, and magic! Congrats.
If you watch/listen to Rhett's first video on this Casino (with original pickups) you will notice that the sound is quite different. I really think the amp settings on this second video are substantially different and tend to emphasise the supposed muddiness of the original pickups. On the first video the Casino doesn't sound muddy at all (to me). I'm not saying this is intentionally biased but I suspect the amp settings are not the same. Given that Rhett's opinion is very reliable I am happy to go by that! However, I'm not confident that the comparisons we actually hear on this video necessarily give the full picture.
Agree 100% with your assessment of the improvements in sound. Way better now. No more muddiness.
I've got an Eastman hollow body that needs the same treatment. You've inspired me to get it done soon.
Glad you got the sound you wanted man! I've always been an advocate for changing pickups if you're looking for a particular sound.
"This video is unavailable on this device" when I watch on my computer.
I had one of those 90s Mexican super strats and one of the first mods I did was to put some suhr V60 low wind pickups in. The difference was pretty big but I really didn’t get the full value out of the pickups until I replaced the wiring harness with an Emerson. If you’re going to bother spending a decent amount on pickups it is always worth making sure the wiring harness is doing them justice.
Those Lollar pups truly made the scene. Good tech tips in changing the wiring too. Thanks for the video.
I’ve been looking at an epi casino in worn olive drab and swapping the pickups/wiring, it seems like a fun process. Wasn’t aware that there wasn’t a ground wire to bridge, definitely a must for me. Thank you for the insight Rhett!
Dark and Muddy is not a cheap epiphone pickup problem. Even Gibson P90s are like this.
I personally love it because it pair so well with fuzz, makes it sound evil.
I go fully with your opinion. Since 5 days, I am the loving owner of such a Chinese casino and the punch and clarity of its sound still make it hard to lay this beauty down.
Rhett's assessment of how he would handle the job matches exactly my experience of doing it. Retrying it a couple times over several months, with the guitar just sitting unused between each attempt. Eventually gave in and paid an expert to do it, for less than the cost of the parts I'd purchased.
same here, I'll never attempt that with a semi hollow again!
I'm doing this to mine now!!! Sounds soooo good! Thanks Rhett for the inspiration!
There's a tremendous amount of clarity in the upgraded pickups. I did SD antiquity in mine. It's a completely different sounding instrument. Also, I upgraded the bridge to a new ABR style with raw brass saddles that I needed to file myself. Now they're cut correctly for the strings I play on it . That was a big upgrade to consider as well.
Rhett, I think changing out the stock pickups for Lollars IS Plan B, and it is awesome, worked out great. I've never done a pickup replacement on a hollow body and it looks like a tougher job for sure, done lots of solid bodies. Sounds great, much more articulate and more punch through! Good work...
Several years ago, I put Lollar P-90s in an Inanez AS-73 semi-hollow and that one upgrade turned a $300 guitar into a $3,000-sounding guitar. Jason Lollar knows his stuff! You really turned this Casino into a righteous beast, Rhett, with these upgrades
The crisp clarity on the Lollar pickups is amazing.
Sounds a lot better,nice and crisp and clear,Best wishes to you and all your viewers and subscribers, from, Auckland, New Zealand.
Grounding the strings makes your body function as a capacitor that reduces some noise. There are also shock hazards as a trade off.
I would much prefer keeping the stock metal pickup covers, unless that was the main cause of the stock pickups being less bright. A comparison could have been done with each type cover on the new Lollar pickups. The metal covers would have some noise shielding properties when grounded, and I prefer their look over black plastic.
I've heard plastic PU cover doesn't affect tone like metal cover but I think ever if they do, the difference is insignificant.
loving the lollar p90's in my lp special tribute, such a huge upgrade. also dropped their imperials in my 335 and so much more clarity compared to the 57 classics.
The difference is night and day! Congrats on your upgrade! Ever forward!
Huge difference! Thanks for the video!
“It’s a LOT more involved! Excellent Ben.
I get "This video is unavailable on this device" when I try to play this. Other UA-cam vids all play fine. This one gives that message on all devices I tried (desktop/table/phone).
Same for me!
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same here - i checked the one i watched yesterday and same notice came up but disappeared in 1 sec. then the video played...not so with this new vid still not playing after 3 min. hmmmmmmmm
Nice! Especially that neck pickup. Huge improvement!!!!
Love a good mod project video! Sounds great man!
So much brighter with the Lollars, really nice sound. Stock sounds a bit too muffled. More mod videos please !
i think it’s mostly the 50s wiring rather than the pickups
The Lollars sound amazing! The stock ones are a vibe though.
Yeah I think Epiphone got it right with their stock pickups which sounded warmer, more mellow and that is what I'd expect from a hollow body, but nevertheless the Lollars are fine no doubt and I'm sure that guitar would howl when driven in a cranked tube amp.
Agreed. I kinda liked that swampy tone. But if it’s not what you’re after, it’s not what you’re after
I preferred the stock pickups as well. Buying a guitar specifically for the vibe, then gutting the vibe with different pickups and electronics doesn't make sense to me. But Rett had a particularly sound in mind, so it's up to him. 🤷
@@Lowtech14 That "swampy" tone is what made the guitar sound cool. With the new pickups, it's too "refined" and the vibe is gone. 😢
I also like the stock ones, I have a Casino Coupe and the stock pups are very good to me.
I would maybe get better electronics to see if that I owns the tonal dynamics, but I don’t think is needed, is not a necessity for me at the moment.
WOW!! That was a *HUGE* difference!! The A/B stock-vs-Loller portion of the video totally blew me away! I honestly don't think I've ever heard such an impressive difference like that!
Definitely like the black pickups!! Beautiful guitar . Congratulations
Huh. "This video is unavailable on this device" .... Never had that before.
same on my phone, iPad, and my work PC.
13:26 I've shielded the cavity (pickups and control area, AND most of the pick guard) of several Strat clones and it basically gets rid of any hum (or "noise") that otherwise showed up when I don't touch the strings. A problem with a hollow body is it looks pretty hard to do that. I didn't look close but it looks like most wires carrying signal are shielded, though those two capacitors are exposed.
But yeah, the Lollar pickups are much brighter.
It is unconscionable pigheadedness that semis don't come with an access cover in the back, as I easily made for my Chibson.
This eased tremendously placing all the pots in a plastic envelope covered with aluminum tape. HUGE improvement, though, along with ground wires for everything.
There are several ways to shield it. I prefer using shielding paint instead of copper because it's neater. But don't forget to ground the guitar before you put all the electronics back in.
Wow what a difference! Brighter for sure. Ben your repair guy is tops. I'm surprised he let you in on some secrets. Nicely done!
Love Casino’s and also Lollar pups!! Soooo win/win!!! They sound great Rhett, cheers
I wanted to see the video and got a black screen saying "This video is unavailable on this device". I tried my phone. Same message. I really love your videos Rhett. I got a UA-cam Premium account and live in Lima, Peru. I never had problems watching your videos. I'm starting to get anxious because I fear UA-cam will not allow me to see your videos anymore and I really do not know why.
It’s not just you buddy! I think he must have taken it down or something. I’ve tried it on 3 devices and it’s not working.
I got the same message just now in the USA; also premium subscriber. weird. Probably just a glitch.
@@arnolddealiii4259 Thanks for your response. Hope it gets solved shortly.
@@sagittated Thanks for responding. Hopefully is a glitch like you said.
upgrading things that already work is fine if it satisfies you psychologically. In the case of pickups, I would tend to learn how to work with what I already have in order to find an acceptable compromise. I'd put more emphasis on pickup height, guitar/amp settings, pickup tone blend, etc... before buying a new set to solve the problem
To be fair, the original ones are pretty muddy and the switch in mine is going out.
@@kevinmcleod2366 to be fair, there isn't any one ideal pickup tone that everyone should strive for. If you think they're too 'muddy' for you (which basically means too much mid/low frequency), then that's your thing. If you have a faulty switch then fix it. That has nothing to do with what I said.
I'd have to agree with this immensely. My example would be an Epiphone SG, the neck pickup is a bit odd, and it compresses alot, but I've learned how to work it out for something very good.
@@rodnyg7952 pretty sure that's part of a scam going on alot. Idk, but I have been hearing alot of shady stuff from other guitar channels
@@BIGBOPPER41 perhaps, I guess it could be used as a way to scam. Most likely it's just a really uncreative marketing technique to get more people to sup the channel, collect more dedicated viewers, & sell more stuff ....ya, that would be a scam
"Slide Curious" - always a pleasure to watch the vids. Hope you get that 1M sub mark soon....keep doing what you do.
I can dig it.
Always wondered how the heck a semi would get pick ups or anything swapped.
Ben did a great job and the guitar sounds great !
I would have liked to see what the old pickups sound like with a new harness.
That has to be the cleanest wiring job I have seen. That dude is a pro. And the A/B at the end with the Lollars vs the stock is a masterclass in the difference between dark, muddy tone vs bright, clear and articulate tone. Man, what a difference.
Great video! I just ordered some Wolfetone Dr Vintages and new electronics for my Epiphone Sheraton. This video is helpful. 🤘
Sounds Fantastic! I have changed pickups in many guitars, usually a great upgrade although not always. Get to really know your guitar as it comes before you make a decision on what if any changes to make. Great Video!
The Casino sounds great with the Lollars thinking of a set to replace the stock pickups on my Korean Sorrento reissue. I am looking into purchasing your slide course since Josh Scott doesn’t offer one even though his slide tone is far superior 😂
Sweet guitar! Pretty attainable for many. Also.... MISSING PLUGIN haha, had to replay that part a few times as I thought my computer was messing up.
I guess he fixed it, because I never saw anything
Excellent upgrade. Now it sounds awesome !!
Love love love ! Definitely now making the swap on mine
The Casino sounds beautiful with the Lollar's, but, to be fair, the tone with the original pickups is definitely usable, so I would probably have two Casino's, one stock and one modded. It could be useful for recording purposes (I'm talking like I could actually afford two Casino's 😄).
How many sounds do you need?
Very cool, Ben did a very nice job, clearly a worthwhile upgrade visually and sonically. Almost makes me want one...You didn't play any Beatles, what the heck! :+)
Rhett better teach us the "Drive My Car" solo in his new mini-course!
He might get in "copyright" problems, or however it´s called. But at least gets the video "demonetized"...
Sorry, but the person doing the wiring has nothing to do with "Sonic" anything, unless they make poor contact and get dirt in the pots!
All of that "Matching capacitors" and "Brand X vintage capacitors" bullshit is bunk, and a huge money making scam! Matching is nonsense because your everything else isn't matched, nor would anyone want that, you want differences between bridge and neck, or else just use a single pickup! I mean what would the point be? THERE IS NONE!
Film capacitors do have slight advantages over ceramic caps, but brand and age make no other difference than old ones may no longer be within original tolerance for good, or worse, or even noisy, and it's only their frequency value that counts, and a matter of taste for the player, so the notion that one must have a specific values for the caps, or even the potentiometers is also bullshit! There's all kinds of room and reasons to use different values, as anyone understanding audio circuit design knows. Your biggest factor for "Sonic value" are the pickups, and their positions under the strings between bridge and neck! The rest of the circuit should take them into account, and from there, and again a matter of taste. Of course their size and shape matters too if you don't want to need and pay for additional woodwork... to use them.
@@Bob-of-Zoid I am talking about the overall difference in tone, before and after, not any one piece. Clearly pickups makeup a large part of that; but I know from experience that just replacing a wiring harness can make a big difference. If I were doing this work (having it done), I’d go ahead and replace all the wiring too, just because it seems easier to do that all at the same time because of the hollow body wiring setup. As you mention, the same pickups sound different depending on which position they are installed, and having them “match” means the tones and volume won’t be drastically different. I’m just used to - and like - it that way.
Thanks for the video. This project speaks to my soul and takes me back to some of the first guitars I owned fifty years ago. I may follow in your footsteps with this Casino purchase and upgrade.
Badass video Rhett! 🤓👍🏻I'm gonna do this for shure. Cheers man.
Rhett UA-cam is saying this video is “unavailable on this device” for my iPhone
"This video is unavailable on this device." Never seen this error before. Using the same devices I always use (tablet, smartphone, notebook, PC, all the same error).
Yeah, WTF? Tried it in another browser and same message, too.
@@TarkMcCoy @albacon64 Same
Same here. Where are you guys? I'm in Vienna, Austria, EU.
@@martin_schwarz Brazil. Still the same error.
@@martin_schwarz I am in Virginia, USA. I see the video got pulled entirely from Rhett's page.
Much fuller and distinct tone with the Lollars. Great upgrade!
fantastic upgrade, now i'm inspired to get one of these guitars myself!
Definitly sounds much better. I think the vintage lower output p 90's sound best!
They always do
I love when you can take an affordable guitar and easily make it A LOT better. Would you bring this one on tour? I always worried about P90s in a live setting because they can be a bit noisy. Speaking of tours...are we getting any tour vlogs sometime soon?
I'd be more worried about the full hollow than the P90s in a live setting. That said, I use a full hollow with a Marshall stack live. You've got to be on your game with controlling your volume from the guitar, but the tone is so worth it! So warm and rich, stands out from the norm, and the controlled feedback can be incredible!
@@amidthefight6915 That’s a great point about the hollow body. Your rig sounds intense in the best way.
Only if it doesn't have a rollercoaster fret job, which very many cheap guitars of any brand do, making that myth absolute nonsense! Playability, buzz free, dead note free comes first!
I get them in all the time wanting everything but fret work because of the cost, and even having had several techs... setup the damned thing to no improvement, and charging for it without ever addressing the real issue: Uneven frets, that no adjustment of any hardware can fix! And yes, it can easily cost more than what one payed for the instrument in the first place, and may still not be worth doing if the neck woods are not dry enough or settled yet, as it will go back out of speck in doing so.
He used the pink Novo as his main guitar for so long and that has P90's, I don't see a reason he wouldn't take this out as well. Especially being so much less expensive in case something happens!
@@PedroAsfora That's a good point. Idk why I assumed Novos had a center block like 335s.
Thank you for sharing your tonal quest with your Casino, is a treat to watch you doing the changes or upgrades some of us wonder for our gear.
I will stay with the stock pup’s in my Casino Coupe, I’m adding a Bigsby only modification I’m doing at the moment.
She is a little roaring volcano when I need her to, and she gives me nice warm cleans that I really like.
Maybe in the future I’ll change my mind but meanwhile since 2020 she is being the one that takes my eyes and ears away from the rest my beloved guitars. Those casinos are something different for sure!
I upgraded my Casino with Lollar 50s Wind P-90s and a Tone Man casino wiring kit with orange drop capacitors. It sounds incredible. I’m glad you did almost the same exact thing to good results as well!
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Well yes, it sounds much better. But I wonder how much of the difference is that the new pickups are just louder? It's a little late for this, but a volume matched comparison would be helpful.
Indeed! And a little EQ and you probably couldn't tell much of a difference. I do like the vintage sound of the Epiphone PU's though.
@@dep1001 I do appreciate the added simplicity of not having to permanently EQ something.
@@yesto9676 Sure, me too. Even though an eq pedal can be very useful. But I mean even a little adjustment of bass/middle/treble on the amp could do a lot.
Definitely better now! Thanks for sharing!
Love the upgrade Rhett!
Yep, I can definitely hear a difference with the new pickups. Really, though, as far as stock pickups go, the originals weren't too bad.
I like the warmer sound so I'd left it as stocked. That had to be at least a $200 labor upgrade, not counting parts.
FYI dude getting a "This video is unavailable on this device." error with this video
Edit: fixed!
Not only does it look a lot nicer, but it sounds a lot crisper. I really noticed it when you got back home. Great job by Ben. Nice to see a pro in action.
Didn't expect it to go full DRAMATIC difference! Well done Maestro!
I'm sure whatever it is, it's great. Maybe this video will be available a device some day. 😆
Cool vid, Rhett! I wonder if Epiphone did a few upgrades to the Casino line. My 2022 Casino in Worn Ebony comes with CTS pots from the factory. And I only payed 465USD brand new from Thomann - It really does punch way above it's weight class - love it! Those Lollars sound great... but I actually think the Epiphone PUs sound more to the vintage side whereas the Lollars sound a bit more modern - but that's all a matter of taste what one likes more. Thanks, man!
I have what Rhett has the “shiny” Casino & know those p90s were hot. Yours has the p90 Pros & are a huge improvement over the older ones.
I put Lindy Fralins in as I couldn’t find the Epi Pros (for price).
@@iainfreeman5112 Oh I see. Yes, mine indeed has the Epi p90 Pros. So there really has been some awesome upgrades done to the Casinos. I also read that some people tried to upgrade the Epi Pros to the Gibson P90's but found no improvement... sounded very similar. Thanks
@@iainfreeman5112 I put chrome Fralins in mine. Took a little while to dial in and I wound up shimming both of them, but the improvement has been major. With a tuner upgrade, this Casino is now easily my #1 among USA strat, tele and LP.
been a humbucker guy for years had my buddies LP classic for a bit when he moved
and now im shoppin for a P90 guitar. awesome sound !
awesome generous luthier/technician. impressive high level of professionalism. great video @RhettShull thanks. great improvement in sound. very helpful video.
I can't watch the video. I get the message: "This video is unavailable on this device" ?? BTW, in case it matters, I'm in Canada.
Well, tried to watch it, but UA-cam keeps telling me "!This video is unavailable on this device." Ah, well...
I had Lollar build out the P90s using the existing chrome casing. Didn’t want to loose the vibe. Didn’t mess with wiring. It sounds killer!
Lotta fun watching that technician go thru his paces. So many good tips and pointers, but I think I will still wait for the expert. Good show.
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Anyone else getting a, "this video is unavailable on this device"? All his other stuff will play without any issues
Ben's the man, guitar whisperer. Amazing tone with the new pickups. Congrats.
Love watching these types of videos. The guitar really sings now and has that certain character. Plus without the covers looks way better. Great job dude.