In Defence of Meg White

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @DC-pj5oy
    @DC-pj5oy Рік тому +146

    Saying Meg White is a bad drummer is akin to saying Basquiat is a bad painter. Art is expression, and Meg is incredibly expressive. Meg is absolutely iconic.

    • @petegrusky2715
      @petegrusky2715 Рік тому

      Good drummer for shitty music. Check!

    • @ok9908
      @ok9908 9 місяців тому

      ​@ThePedophileExposingHunterfound the insecure guy going around, spreading his bullshit. Go on, keep on being miserable. You'll never achieve anything with this boring attitude. Take a good look into the mirror once and see.

    • @ok9908
      @ok9908 9 місяців тому

      ​@@petegrusky2715 found the other one

    • @stonaraptor8196
      @stonaraptor8196 8 місяців тому +2

      Lol ok bro. Isolate her drum track. Sounds like a little kid after playing the drums for a few months of practice.

    • @ok9908
      @ok9908 8 місяців тому

      @@stonaraptor8196
      1: you liked our own comment
      2: that's kind of the point, man. Jack White said it himself, her drumming is like a little kid beating the hell out of a drumset, caveman style.
      3: The drumtrack was never supposed to be seperated, because it only works together with Jack's guitar and voice and whatever other instrument he plays. You could say "oh, but Jack's guitar and voice work with any other drummer". Yeah,I agree. They do. BUT he has never been as successful as he was together with Meg. It just works. Her playing inspired Jack and that inspiration isn't there for him anymore and quite frankly it shows on all of his post-TWS records.
      TL;DR: you're stupid /j

  • @grizzlynko
    @grizzlynko 4 роки тому +2275

    Her drumming wasn't technical. But that band didn't need that. Her drumming was essential to their sound and that is saying enough.

    • @leif.erikson9721
      @leif.erikson9721 4 роки тому +14

      Shes like charlie watts

    • @btaylo24
      @btaylo24 4 роки тому +6

      Grizzlo ....Well said.

    • @ashfordartcornwall3790
      @ashfordartcornwall3790 4 роки тому +1

      Aye ti that.

    • @davidtingley9978
      @davidtingley9978 4 роки тому +35

      She was the right drummer for that band. She was never off the beat. A more proficient drummer would have been wrong for the WS.

    • @commonavionics6069
      @commonavionics6069 4 роки тому +9

      david tingley *She was never on the beat

  • @TundraMouse
    @TundraMouse 4 роки тому +346

    The most important thing about meg is the live shows,
    No set list, jack will stop halfway through one song to play something else and she has to just figure it out by reading his face. Nobody could do meg's job. She is the most underrated drummer of all time

    • @flugplatz21
      @flugplatz21 3 роки тому +28

      That free flowing ability and confidence to be spontaneous and rock steady at the same time is what it's all about, no matter what the technical demands of what you're playing.

    • @cabwaylingo_
      @cabwaylingo_ 2 роки тому +18

      You can really see how incredible she is at reading what Jack is doing on the Blackpool concert. Even when Jack was going to all fucking places on Death Letter she was right there with him.

    • @JiraiyaTheGallant44
      @JiraiyaTheGallant44 2 роки тому +16

      On top of that she has horrible anxiety playing live. Keeping up with Jack on stage while dealing with that is nothing short of incredible.

    • @yeeehawwdy2638
      @yeeehawwdy2638 2 роки тому +3

      Thousands of drummers could do what she did. Why do people who know jack shit about music say this kinda stuff?

    • @circleofstone3114
      @circleofstone3114 2 роки тому

      @@yeeehawwdy2638 THANK YOU! 🍻 my 9 year old could keep all that time 🤦‍♂️ so Fukin mind boggling how much everyone sucks this band off 🤯😂

  • @thombendtsen399
    @thombendtsen399 4 роки тому +1008

    She needs no defense. She sounded exactly the way she and Jack wanted her to.

    • @steliokontos1180
      @steliokontos1180 3 роки тому +11

      I came to write the same thing 😂

    • @euminkong
      @euminkong 3 роки тому +2

      Dang....

    • @c.s.4428
      @c.s.4428 3 роки тому +17

      I wouldn't say "how Jack wanted her to sound", I would say it's more like Meg sounded the only way she knew how to sound and... it worked for what the two did together.

    • @archstanton_live
      @archstanton_live 3 роки тому +2

      I agree with Thom and C.S. Meg was perfect for Jack at that time. All the rest of this explanation presented here is somewhat contrived.

    • @gianski3306
      @gianski3306 3 роки тому +2

      The Way He Needed Her To

  • @RulgertGhostalker
    @RulgertGhostalker 3 роки тому +34

    Meg is a punk drummer icon....very unique style....she's one of those drummers that bad drummers call bad, and that good drummers respect..

  • @dylanreid8224
    @dylanreid8224 4 роки тому +1610

    I didn’t realize meg white needed defending ._.
    She’s a perfect drummer for the white stripes

    • @Spaghettaboutit
      @Spaghettaboutit 4 роки тому +57

      Meg got shit in constantly when the White Strips were active - I think that's part of the reason why she left the band...other than you know, being in a band with your exhusband, who is an eccentric person....I wonder if Jack would act in character while on tour and would emotionally deny Meg.

    • @pedrotavares93
      @pedrotavares93 4 роки тому +29

      the praising in this video doesn't make much sense. don't wanna sound overcritical or rude but she's really not a great drummer or a great singer like the video claims (she hardly keeps her tempo and literally sings out of tune).
      but the thing is: who cares?? she was never supposed to be "great" because that was never the point. I love The White Stripes, people seem to forget that they were a garage/punk rock band, not prog/jazzy/classical rock or something like that. and I truly believe that's the beauty of their sound. god, everything is raw and sloppy, including Jack's guitar(!), the arrangements/production and even the quality of the recordings.
      I wouldn't say that she's a "great drummer" because she simply isn't... but well she's the drummer of a great band. that's a subtle distinction (and there's nothing wrong with that!)

    • @turkeyleg201
      @turkeyleg201 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah but it he a lot cooler if she was a skilled drummer. But she’s ight so that’s cool I guess

    • @pedrotavares93
      @pedrotavares93 4 роки тому +11

      @@turkeyleg201 I think her drumming serves the songs pretty well. idk but perhaps a more complex drumming would require more complex arrangements, with bass, more guitars etc or maybe it wouldn't. all of Jack's could've been White Stripes songs, all of his guitar parts have the simplistic/minimalistic approach but the production make them sound different.
      The White Stripes is my favorite project of his, and Meg's drumming definitely has something to do with it!

    • @Spaghettaboutit
      @Spaghettaboutit 4 роки тому +32

      pedro tavares considering that Jack White has access to better drummers and he hasn't made music that was as good as the White Strips, proves that Meg is a great drummer because she brought the best out of Jack. Now just's solo stuff is just Jack Shite.

  • @72vince27
    @72vince27 4 роки тому +1357

    Let's have a toast for Meg White 🥂
    "Does it sound good? Does it feel good? Then it's music!" - James Brown

    • @PassiveNights
      @PassiveNights 4 роки тому +15

      Raise a toast to Saint Meg White

    • @meif6302
      @meif6302 3 роки тому +3

      I get your point but according to that quote eating crisps is music, and I think we agree that that isn't true...

    • @72vince27
      @72vince27 3 роки тому +11

      @@meif6302 Eating chips definitely doesn't sound good.
      Not for the eater who hears a full load of crunch nearby their ears 😂 and for the people who are listening to a person smacking their lips and chewing on something crunchy.
      Atleast I wouldn't say so 🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @henrychinaski5938
      @henrychinaski5938 3 роки тому +7

      @@meif6302 That has to be the dumbest argument ever lol

    • @SolarLantern424
      @SolarLantern424 3 роки тому +1

      @@meif6302 I'm not sure? If crisps aren't music then what about celery? I thought that was Paul Mc Cartneys greatest moment!

  • @JohnLawrieTWS
    @JohnLawrieTWS 4 роки тому +227

    The White Stripes would’ve sucked with a more technical drummer. So much of what they were about was breaking rock and roll down to its core components and her drums were the most important piece in that puzzle. It’s why Jack White’s solo stuff is so different, even live takes of White Stripes tunes he’s done with his current live band feel ‘wrong’ to me without Meg’s sound.
    Also so much of the White Stripes is focusing on timbres and Meg White has such a distinct way of hitting the drums that even with the same kit it wouldn’t sound as gnarly. Her presence and her drumming is so important to that band.

  • @Nate_Higgins
    @Nate_Higgins 4 роки тому +44

    If you can identify a drummer when you hear them play, then that drummer has succeeded. Most of us work all of our lives to find our own unique sound on the instrument. Cheers to Meg.

  • @WinstonGuitar
    @WinstonGuitar 4 роки тому +216

    Many articles have been written about Meg's emotional contribution to the band, her tethering influence on Jack, keeping him grounded, keeping him true to the solid center that Meg provides. Jack is a multi-instrumentalist (in fact, drums are his primary instrument). Without Meg, without Jack's desire to keep Meg's persona and influence central to The White Stripes, Jack's project would have just filled out into the clever, all-over-the-map polyglot of musical exploration he indulged in since then -- very interesting to listen to, but not nearly as. . . . well, not nearly as hard-hitting as the Stripes were.

    • @maryvee61
      @maryvee61 3 роки тому +3

      Love this, so well said.

    • @stephknarr
      @stephknarr 3 роки тому +10

      Agreed! His solo stuff is quite good (especially from a songwriter's perspective)... But it just. Isn't the White Stripes

    • @mauricehopes9105
      @mauricehopes9105 Рік тому

      Yeah I 100% agree. The white stripes have a simplicity that hits harder than any of Jacks other bands do. Meg kept Jack grounded and forced him to make more focused music. All of his stuff since then has been too overly complicated for my tastes. Jack is an incredible musician, but without meg i think he gets lost in the weeds.

    • @Jay-gf8tm
      @Jay-gf8tm Рік тому +2

      Most regular people like simplicity, extremely complicated music is the artist trying to outdo themselves or flex on other musicians. Simpler melodies and drums hit harder with normies. That won't change. Technical musicians always have a niche following.

    • @31446963048
      @31446963048 Рік тому +1

      Honestly prefer him in stripes. He needs tight structure to fight against

  • @readymade83
    @readymade83 4 роки тому +250

    When I was in college, I had the chance to see them on the "Elephant" tour when it hit Lowell, MA and it was awesome. Jack was fantastic but Meg's drumming was just crazy. She stepped out then sang "In the Cold, Cold Night" and it would be safe to say everyone swooned while she sang. She was great and I hope she can enjoy some of her success away from the limelight.

    • @maryvee61
      @maryvee61 3 роки тому +8

      Lovely ❤ I hope so, hope she is happy and healthy.

    • @cremetangerine82
      @cremetangerine82 3 роки тому +5

      I saw the White Stripes in Boston on their last tour. Her drumming was amazing, and she also sang “In the Cold, Cold Night”.

  • @ely_oh
    @ely_oh 4 роки тому +84

    Meg White's individuality and primal drumming was what made her stand out as a drummer during her time in The White Stripes.

  • @forformgamer
    @forformgamer 4 роки тому +63

    "the liberation of limiting yourself"
    Now that's a great quote!

  • @shawnreap
    @shawnreap 4 роки тому +635

    I didn't realize anyone considered her "bad." She was crucial to the sound, and the sound was great.

    • @Chopstick2U
      @Chopstick2U 4 роки тому +14

      People talked a lot of shit about her at the time when the White Stiles were competing with nu-metal bands on the radio.

    • @chopsuey--
      @chopsuey-- 4 роки тому +12

      I confess I was one of those people. But really, how can you not make fun of her when she can't hold a tempo on the literally simplest rock beat ever?

    • @clamum
      @clamum 4 роки тому +7

      I have seen endless people say she's a bad drummer. I don't listen to White Stripes but I'm guessing 95% of those calling her bad don't know jack shit about drumming (I don't either but that's why I don't comment on drummers).

    • @FPSBuzz
      @FPSBuzz 4 роки тому +14

      @@chopsuey-- except she can hold a beat. She has incredible rhyme, especially in the way she has to work with Jack.

    • @SelectCircle
      @SelectCircle 4 роки тому +2

      I'd love to hang around your crowd.
      Yours must be the most intelligent and artistic crowd in the world.
      The rest of us are surrounded by Meg-haters - the stupidest dumbshits ever. : (

  • @asparrowwithamachinegun7886
    @asparrowwithamachinegun7886 4 роки тому +67

    In The Cold, Cold Night is my favorite White Stripes song. I wish she sang more often.

  • @racetucker56
    @racetucker56 2 роки тому +26

    Every drummer who started drumming after 2003 owes their entire career to Meg White. The first song just about every drummer learns is Seven Nation Army. Meg White essentially made the step off point for basically every drummer to ever exist from now on. As a drummer myself, I, and others of my craft, are forever in debt to Meg. Thank you, Meg White.

  • @64north20west
    @64north20west 4 роки тому +39

    Watching them live, she brought serious energy to the show. I wish they never broke up and he just did his other stuff as side projects.

  • @hahahwhat
    @hahahwhat 4 роки тому +51

    I have always wondered why Meg keeps getting singled out for doing what so many other drummers have gotten praise for. I always felt her drumming was deliberately simple so as to create more impact and thought of it as the tool of her medium, in the way only animation can convey certain feelings. Thank you for doing this piece!

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 4 роки тому +16

      She's a woman. There's not enough well-known female drummers to begin with and she's not as technically skilled. She's an easy target for certain people.

    • @Caidezes
      @Caidezes 3 роки тому +5

      ​@@Aster_Risk As much as I hate it, that certainly plays a big role. It's less common these days, but women in bands have always tended to be criticized more than men. Here's hoping listeners can move passed that in the future and just base their opinions on how the music itself sounds.

  • @jacktowers7533
    @jacktowers7533 4 роки тому +169

    Jack took Meg’s name when they got married
    That says it all really

    • @nocallnoshow6878
      @nocallnoshow6878 4 роки тому +18

      Well, not really. It kind of gave him a showbizzy name.

    • @MrDirtclodfight
      @MrDirtclodfight 4 роки тому +2

      Bryan Cordova shutup

    • @emigrant1510
      @emigrant1510 4 роки тому +29

      @@MrDirtclodfight What? He's not wrong. The Gillis Stripes doesn't have the same ring to it.

    • @emigrant1510
      @emigrant1510 3 роки тому +1

      @@saintelsewhere6513 Don't make me r/woosh you, my guy.

    • @lisagd22
      @lisagd22 3 роки тому +1

      @@emigrant1510 I'm guessing if he had married someone without a show biz name, he would've come up with another band name, you know? 😉

  • @lidrumguy7042
    @lidrumguy7042 4 роки тому +562

    Maybe she doesn’t have to play like she’s Neil Peart because that wouldn’t work with the song

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 4 роки тому +16

      She’s good. But she’s not the brilliant minimalist that is: Jamie Cook from Arctic Monkeys

    • @bored312
      @bored312 4 роки тому +12

      Good thing she didn't have to play like Neil Peart, because she can't.

    • @rhys.cunningham4179
      @rhys.cunningham4179 4 роки тому +15

      bored312 so what she couldn’t drum like Neil Peart, many can’t, it’s not something to be ashamed of, cos Neil Peart was a very good drummer, a drummer doesn’t have to be highly skilled or super technical, tho if you can do something and you can do it well, go with, Meg had her own style and she clearly wasn’t trying to be Neil Peart

    • @mayathepsychiic
      @mayathepsychiic 4 роки тому +16

      @@bored312 neither could ringo starr, and he was key of the greatest band of all time. technical talent =/= good music

    • @bored312
      @bored312 4 роки тому +4

      I wasn't trying to offend in saying Meg can't play like Neil Peart. This comment made it seem like it was an artistic choice she made, to not play as well as Neil Peart.

  • @tomthumb1322
    @tomthumb1322 3 роки тому +23

    You know back in the day when a young musician would come along and blow everyone away with a totally unique sound and/technique, they were almost always instantly crowned the best ever. Well, in my book, Meg is the greatest drummer I have ever heard. She didn't have to learn beats or copy anyone else, the beat came out of her raw and unedited in the same way solos came out of Jimi and the blues came out of B.B.

  • @mch1n118
    @mch1n118 3 роки тому +24

    Her drumming was perfect for the band and she’s a stunningly gorgeous human being. Love her.

  • @r.tyrell7323
    @r.tyrell7323 4 роки тому +121

    When I was in high school I got into a drum class mostly because Meg White was for me an inspiration.
    At that point in my life I didn't know about many female drummers so yep, she inspired me to get into that class.
    I didn't become a drummer, I ended up going only to a couple of classes because our teacher was more focused on jazz (which it's amazing, don't get me wrong) meanwhile I wanted to learn more rock songs.
    She has a special place in my heart and I'm still hopeful that in the future I'll get myself an electric drum kit and teach myself some White Stripes songs just for fun.

    • @pieter_kok
      @pieter_kok 4 роки тому +8

      I hope you do learn some White Stripes songs someday! (Now is the perfect time if your only excuse has been not having time to get around to it)

    • @TundraMouse
      @TundraMouse 4 роки тому +2

      Do it, anyone can learn an instrument and it's never too late, if it's something you wanna try, give it a try

    • @ashfordartcornwall3790
      @ashfordartcornwall3790 4 роки тому

      @@TundraMouse dependin how lazy yarr 😏😉

    • @JimBowen1
      @JimBowen1 3 роки тому

      So, go for it. Nothing to lose, and music's meant to be fun.

    • @TessConnellan
      @TessConnellan 3 роки тому

      Same! I started lessons because of her too! I taught myself every one of my favourite songs and played them way too loud (oh my poor family)

  • @jlofty281
    @jlofty281 4 роки тому +36

    I adore the art and designs in this video! They’re really eye catching and flow really nicely, and perfectly fit the White Stripes’ vibe

    • @MyssBlewm
      @MyssBlewm 4 роки тому +3

      I enjoyed it as well. I hope Polyphonic will sell some of the art and design he did for this video. I especially loved the different styles of Meg all lined up together.

  • @Dev._.
    @Dev._. 4 роки тому +123

    If I wasn’t a drummer, I wouldn’t have paid her any mind. Crazy underrated

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 4 роки тому +7

      If you want underrated and restrained. Check out Jaime Cook from Arctic Monkeys

    • @Dev._.
      @Dev._. 4 роки тому +3

      Pawn Hearts are you kidding me? My brother showed me fluorescent adolescent when I was in 2nd grade and it blew my mind

    • @smillman437
      @smillman437 4 роки тому

      You're both crazy haha

    • @liammcnicholas918
      @liammcnicholas918 4 роки тому +4

      Up there with Ringo, Keith Moon, John Bonham, Neil Peart, Lars Ulrich, Dave Grohl, and Phil Collins. She's that good.

    • @adityakuttus
      @adityakuttus 4 роки тому +3

      @@liammcnicholas918 she's really not but ok

  • @cikarito20
    @cikarito20 4 роки тому +15

    "...and thats the beauty of Meg" well I realized I really missed Meg...

  • @Tall4LifeX
    @Tall4LifeX 4 роки тому +50

    Personally, to make great music and to be a great band, it's about how well all the individual pieces, instruments, and members come together, not a simple sum of adding the 10th best guitarist ever, the 5th best bassist ever, etc. like it's a Pokemon team. Technical ability matters to make more complex and intricate music perhaps but something phenomenal is more likely to come from cohesion and the sum being greater than the parts.

    • @vivianavilchis3186
      @vivianavilchis3186 4 роки тому

      very well put!!

    • @chillmaster66
      @chillmaster66 4 роки тому

      Yes that's very often the case.
      How many so called "supergroups" full of well known musicians came and died slowly out because most of them sucked tremendously. Music is rarely about technical abilities. It's about emotions. For me it's way more important what you can achieve as a songwriter than as a musician per se. You can suck hard as a musician but if you write good songs I will probably still be able to enjoy your work. But if your songs are utter shit it doesn't matter to me if your the next Mozart. Your songs just suck even if they are performed in technical perfection.

  • @nero9978
    @nero9978 4 роки тому +25

    People tend to forget, the blues, was extremely simplistic, white stripes wasn't about extreme technicalities, jack solely wanted to have simplicity, i hate the fact everyone has a go at meg for being a "bad" drummer, when that wasn't even what the white stripes were going for? It's convoluted and silly.

  • @Gibson1976uk
    @Gibson1976uk 4 роки тому +4

    Her drumming was so distinctive and just worked with Jacks guitar playing, it was all raw and fresh sounding!! Megs timing is so spot on!

  • @weinstna
    @weinstna 4 роки тому +89

    She’s a “bad drummer” like Ringo Starr is a “bad drummer”, she sits in the song, punctuating the song, and that’s what makes them so great, and in relevance to this video, what makes Meg so great.

    • @JenDoe1
      @JenDoe1 4 роки тому +4

      This is exactly what I was going to comment. She fits the sound perfectly, as Ringo Starr did.

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 4 роки тому +5

      Just like how people call Jaime Cook a “bad guitarist” because he messes up a little and doesn’t do the solos like Alex

    • @xentakis
      @xentakis 4 роки тому +3

      I get the analogy but Ringo is so much better than her it’s ridiculous. They are not actually comparable. Ringo had a phenomenal sense of time.

    • @pawnhearts8785
      @pawnhearts8785 4 роки тому +5

      @xentakis
      Ringo makes most modern metronomes sound sloppy. That’s how good he was. Human metronome indeed

    • @b1merio
      @b1merio 4 роки тому +3

      But did she write a song about an octopus?

  • @adameggers8146
    @adameggers8146 4 роки тому +24

    Mo Tucker is the obvious parallel and forerunner. I was surprised she was not mentioned in the video.

  • @tecpaocelotl
    @tecpaocelotl 4 роки тому +233

    I defend her since she was married to Jack white and influenced him. You can hear the difference once they are no longer together.

    • @jacktowers7533
      @jacktowers7533 4 роки тому +74

      Considering he took her name and the way jack talks about her, she influenced him in ways we’ll never know

    • @ashfordartcornwall3790
      @ashfordartcornwall3790 4 роки тому +1

      @@jacktowers7533 👍🤭😄

  • @Ms.GreenJeans
    @Ms.GreenJeans 3 роки тому +2

    I'm a self taught drummer and emotion within drums, being able to play slower, knowing what sound works with a fill....speed and crazy technique isn't important. If ya booty wants to shake, it works! Period. Mad respect!

  • @kevkenm9223
    @kevkenm9223 4 роки тому +130

    me: sees a polyphonic video
    also me:Lets take a closer look.

  • @knickd1979
    @knickd1979 3 роки тому +4

    This topic reminds me of a guy I knew who said Keith Moon was “over-rated” and to prove his point he tried showing me the “imperfections” in Keith’s isolated drum track in Who Are You.
    I just shook my head and told him he shouldn’t call himself a fan of rock ever again!

  • @ughlife9782
    @ughlife9782 4 роки тому +9

    I heard fell in love with a girl walking around a mall in 2003. I immediately fell in love with their music and never looked back!

  • @chloescat
    @chloescat Рік тому

    THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR MEG WHITE! I ALWAYS LOVE HER DRUMMING!
    WE ALL MISS YOU, MEG!
    THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!

  • @christopherwhite9533
    @christopherwhite9533 4 роки тому +3

    Jack White's solo career, even with his third solo album band that had less members, proves how vital meg white was. It proves how she was the gateway to jack white's best solos and improvs.

  • @MrJavier1223
    @MrJavier1223 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you for this. Meg White has been a wonderful person and a great part of the White Stripes. I appreciate that you are defending her, as she should get the support she deserves. And I really hope that she's doing well, wherever she is and in whatever she's doing.

  • @anshugurung5285
    @anshugurung5285 4 роки тому +187

    Did anyone realize that this video only consists Red, Black and White color pattern.

  • @TheDeadFlashYT
    @TheDeadFlashYT 4 роки тому +4

    I love the White Stripes. Meg definetely needs more recognition for the essence she brought to the band

  • @iwin1560
    @iwin1560 4 роки тому +8

    The white stripes were one of the bands I heard at the right time. I was sick of it all and hearing the grungy guitar with the heavy drums spoke to me so clearly and I could relate to it

  • @smkh2890
    @smkh2890 2 роки тому

    The best I can say is Meg's drumming doesn't distract from what Jack is doing.
    There is no need for fancy frills around his lines.

  • @BRunzilian
    @BRunzilian 4 роки тому +29

    I've always had a huge crush on her. She's fantastic. We already have our Portnoys, Bonhams, and Manginis. As a guitar player, I can see why this vision excited Jack so much. It's pure, raw and honest, as music always should be

    • @goji7273
      @goji7273 4 роки тому +6

      You know, when rock purists worship Bonham and deride Meg White, I don’t understand it. His technical chops, at least as demonstrated through their music, were better than hers, but not by much, and his strength always came from his power and groove, which Meg White has in spades.

    • @AngelineProductions
      @AngelineProductions 4 роки тому +2

      Have you heard the song “Meg White” by Ray LaMontagne? If not, you’d probably enjoy it :)

    • @emigrant1510
      @emigrant1510 4 роки тому +1

      @@goji7273 but not by much? Man, any live rendition of Moby Dick is enough proof of it and if Meg had power and groove in spades, Bonham had it in nuclear levels.

    • @goji7273
      @goji7273 4 роки тому +2

      Emi Grant Yeah, that’s fair. I guess a more accurate statement would have been that, on most Zeppelin songs, the technical proficiency wasn’t what shone or what people still worship to this day.

    • @emigrant1510
      @emigrant1510 4 роки тому

      @@goji7273 That I can agree with.

  • @vittoprince
    @vittoprince 4 роки тому +38

    She might not have the skills of Neil Peart or John Bonham but she has a distinctive style and that’s why I respect her as a drummer.

    • @tbam73
      @tbam73 4 роки тому +2

      Who does?

    • @TundraMouse
      @TundraMouse 4 роки тому

      He's the most overrated musician of all time, and that's coming from a drummer, he is amazing but I'm so sick of hearing he's the best, it's all subjective but my god I hate neil peart. It's like when people say Hendrix is the best guitarist of all time. It just isn't true. Maybe it is for the people who say it but these people tend to not respect other peoples opinions.
      So if you think he's the best, then he is, to you. And fair play to you for that. I'm just tired of hearing it because to me, he's not even worth listening to because his band fucking sucks

    • @emigrant1510
      @emigrant1510 4 роки тому +1

      @@TundraMouse Sounds to me like you just don't like Rush, which is fair. That said, you only need to listen to one of their songs to appreciate their technicality and musicianship that has garnered them such status. To not be aware of it at the very least does come off as ignorant to a degree.

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 4 роки тому +1

      @@TundraMouse This is exactly why it's not entirely fair to think Meg sucks. We're all trying to get something different from music. Neil is just not your guy. I'm not a fan either despite recognizing his technical abilities.

  • @eskimogioia9848
    @eskimogioia9848 4 роки тому +3

    I am glad to see all the love Meg is getting. Jack is one of my favorite artists, but I always knew that Meg's drumming played a huge role in the sound of the White Stripes; that unique sound is why I loved The White Stripes.

  • @LON009
    @LON009 4 роки тому +7

    I love her voice in In the Cold, Cold Night. I wish she gets to release a solo album (with guests, of course) someday.

  • @bigsexygoat8
    @bigsexygoat8 4 роки тому +349

    A good drummer is one that fits in the music. The Who would be very different without Keith moon and same with meg white

    • @jennycraigadventures3314
      @jennycraigadventures3314 4 роки тому +6

      No, I don’t think The Who would sound the same with Meg.
      😄

    • @RH-vu4jn
      @RH-vu4jn 4 роки тому +2

      Totally agree- i never really appreciated charlie watts until i saw the stones live last summer. there is so much going on with mick and keith it kinda makes sense his low key style.

    • @LEFT4BASS
      @LEFT4BASS 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly! Slash is a great guitarist, but you wouldn’t put him in Death cab For Cutie. Different people work with different styles.

    • @alonedownthere47
      @alonedownthere47 4 роки тому +2

      yeah but put keith moon in the white stripes and tell him to hit quarter notes all day and he could do it, he would just be bored

    • @rachelb8870
      @rachelb8870 4 роки тому +1

      The Who did have different drummers and we're different. Personally I've always thought Moon beens overrated,his fills too busy. Kenny Jones was good but didn't have that explosive power of Moon. After the reunion tours started they had some passable sidemen . The best was when they had Ringo's son behind the kit, he was the better than Moon and the whole lot .

  • @booboodadfool8015
    @booboodadfool8015 4 роки тому +102

    She never missed a beat, nor dropped a stick.
    Plus, although "simple" in terms variations of patterns, she would often play perfectly off beat from Jack's melodies, and even off beat from herself, she would keep the time steady and the feeling off kilter. This would add drama and a sense of uneasiness, because the way she played violated the internal metronome we all have. She made choices of when and where to hit that the "best drummers" would never, or could never, make. She literally marched to the beat of her own drum.

    • @graysonherbert4604
      @graysonherbert4604 4 роки тому +5

      I think you are seriously overthinking it. I'm pretty sure she just has bad timing.

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 3 роки тому +7

      @@graysonherbert4604 That's not what he means. Yes, her timing isn't solid. It doesn't matter. I've played drums for over 30 years and she would choose beat placements that "proper drummers" would never even think to. It wasn't a timing issue. She'd just throw a bass drum beat or snare hit in where you would never expect it. And it sounded amazing. It doesn't matter if she was "trying" to do it or not. She did it. And it's totally unique.

    • @graysonherbert4604
      @graysonherbert4604 3 роки тому +4

      @@doublestrokeroll No, I understand what he means. I just don't think it's true. There is a such thing as breaking rules artistically, but I don't see any sign that Meg even knows the rules. From my perspective, Meg makes a lot of mistakes because she isn't a good drummer then fans of the band try to read creative genius into it. I have listened to some of their music and I generally enjoy it. I'm not just hating on them, but you can make good music even you aren't a good drummer. I think the primary fallacy that people have is that they make good music, thus Meg must actually be a good drummer. That isn't necessarily true though. You can have a member in your band that isn't good at their instrument, but make good music anyway, and I think The White Stripes is a great example of that.

    • @doublestrokeroll
      @doublestrokeroll 3 роки тому +3

      @@graysonherbert4604 Again though, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that she isn't a technically proficient drummer. I don't think anyone, including the original poster her is suggesting she's a genius "creatively". Simply that she makes choices that are not common but still work. Whether she does that consciously or not doesn't matter. As a drummer of 30+ years, I know what she's doing even if she couldn't explain it, and it's totally interesting in my opinion. And it makes her "good" because creativity is as much a part of music as technique.
      Of course this is all subjective anyway. Even technique. I can show you technically amazing drummers that I think are boring and uninteresting because musically they've done nothing that I like.

    • @graysonherbert4604
      @graysonherbert4604 3 роки тому

      @@doublestrokeroll It sounds like we generally agree on the fundamentals, we just interpret her playing differently. I do however 100% agree on the technical skill. I have watched some death metal drummers, and it is crazy impressive, but it's really rhythmically boring. I listen to prog metal because I love hearing the weird rhythms and creative rule breaking. I think the difference I see between the unusual rhythms in prog metal and Meg is that in prog it is intentional, while Meg's seems accidental to me. I think that makes a difference, but it may not for everyone.

  • @jhoang861
    @jhoang861 4 роки тому +3

    she was the heartbeat of the band for sure.

  • @joshuamason2316
    @joshuamason2316 2 роки тому +1

    Jack White's solo stuff is great and all. But having seen them in small pubs and headlining massive festivals I always found my eyes being drawn to Meg. Seeing her almost lost in the music was magnetic

  • @jackcrowv
    @jackcrowv 4 роки тому +9

    Can I just say, how amazingly freaking awesome this video looks? Watching you since last big White Stripes video (that is sadly enough, vanished), and man oh man, your skills have definitely improved.
    P.S: Little Room sequence is just simply "wow", by the way.

  • @LordDragon1965
    @LordDragon1965 4 роки тому +18

    "Not a technical drummer" wasn't that what they said about Ringo?

  • @luminaraunduli2791
    @luminaraunduli2791 4 роки тому +6

    She was BY FAR my favorite part of the White Stripes.

  • @ericsanger4408
    @ericsanger4408 Рік тому +1

    Your documentary and editing skills are exceptional.

  • @mokuchristian
    @mokuchristian 2 роки тому

    the white stripes and meg white specifically are my favorite musicians and my biggest inspiration.

  • @cromulentwords
    @cromulentwords 4 роки тому +47

    The beauty of the Stripes is that, from a more sophisticated musical perspective, their sound wasn't supposed to work. No one expected the elements to fit together like they did. If you listened to them separately, it'd be hard to put it together in a coherent way. It's like the Flaming Moe from The Simpsons. Jack White is the hodgepodge of liquors and cough syrup that comprises the drink itself, and Meg White is the fire that unleashes the inexplicable taste that gets people hooked.

    • @LordSluggo
      @LordSluggo 4 роки тому +5

      That's the most beautiful metaphor I've ever read

    • @cromulentwords
      @cromulentwords 4 роки тому +1

      I've found there's a Simpsons metaphor for almost everything.

    • @basil33
      @basil33 4 роки тому +1

      Omg I love this lol

  • @eatadickgoogle5007
    @eatadickgoogle5007 4 роки тому +5

    I love me sum meg. Elephant is 1 of those iconic albums that is a masterpiece and could not possibly be better. I mean 7nation army intro is this generations we will rock you by queen. You would be hard pressed to find an obscure corner of the earth that doesn't know those 7 notes and drum beat. Its Fn epic.

  • @grabalemon5737
    @grabalemon5737 4 роки тому +6

    I don’t have anything insightful to say, I’m just so pleased you posted this! I love Meg’s drumming style and I miss the White Stripes so much.

  • @ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1
    @ZOOTSUITBEATNICK1 Рік тому +1

    She was very obviously the right drummer for the band...just as Ringo was for the Beatles, Moon for the Who, Baker for Cream, Richmond for Mingus, etc.

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 4 роки тому

    I’m a 40 years plus college educated jazz drummer/educator who plays in the style of Roy Haynes and Ed Blackwell. Meg White rocks period. One of my favorite musicians and an influential drummer to me. She plays for the music and that’s what counts not chops for the sack of chops. She lies in the same space as Blackwell, Krupa, Billy Ward, Roach, Ringo and Bonham.

  • @nmlss
    @nmlss 4 роки тому +119

    She's a blue-collar drummer, so to speak. She can't do any technical prowess, but she just does her job, which is playing drums.

    • @orion2116
      @orion2116 4 роки тому +18

      A proletarian percussionist

    • @robpalmer9051
      @robpalmer9051 4 роки тому +3

      Same goes with all the drummers for the Ramones. They didn't utilize a technical drumming method, but instead they had a basic & powerful signature formula that got the job done.

    • @yozi4988
      @yozi4988 4 роки тому

      @@orion2116 r/usernamechecksout

    • @xwhite2020
      @xwhite2020 4 роки тому

      @@robpalmer9051 lol. Marky is an absolute beast of a drummer. As good as any pop punk drummer that followed in his footsteps.

    • @beigela
      @beigela 4 роки тому

      @@xwhite2020 playin a 16th note 4/4 beat at 200bpm is no easy feat. marky and tommy got down to business.

  • @kimackerman2183
    @kimackerman2183 4 роки тому +5

    I never considered her like that "a bad drummer" as far as I know she isn't the best out there but she did her best and that's what matters. No one's perfect. Her drumming was really good!

  • @Shiniiee
    @Shiniiee 4 роки тому +1

    As a very very very hardcore White Stripes fan: You nailed every single thing about their whole philosophy, aesthetic and sound. You explained simply what took me years to really grasp why I love their music so much. Pretty nice.

  • @peteski5201
    @peteski5201 4 роки тому

    Meg White’s drumming did what it needed to do. That makes what she did great.

  • @jmorales09
    @jmorales09 4 роки тому +36

    If you ever needed proof of Meg's greatness, watch Jack White's solo performances of White Stripes songs. His live drummer is Carla Azar, and she's technically talented as fuck. But her style just doesn't mesh as well with White Stripes songs

  • @MatheusColla
    @MatheusColla 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Most people don't realize that playing Meg's drum lines can be easy but composing drum lines like Meg is a job that you cant learn at a music school

  • @YSANROCHEOfficialYoutube
    @YSANROCHEOfficialYoutube Рік тому +1

    I really thought the white stripes had some of the coolest drumming ever

  • @Gooobed
    @Gooobed 4 роки тому +3

    This is an official meg moment

  • @jelkel25
    @jelkel25 3 роки тому +3

    The White Stripes were an outpouring of emotions in a sort of innocent way and Meg encapsulated this, not every band needs to be taking a sonic tantrum or shoe gazing.

  • @Kinnakeeter
    @Kinnakeeter 2 роки тому +3

    Meg White has proven that you don't need the drums to sound like a typewriter to create great music. I honestly think that if Kurt Cobain was still alive, The White Stripes would be one of his favorite bands. RIP Kurt Cobain

    • @Kinnakeeter
      @Kinnakeeter 2 роки тому +2

      Meg obviously deserves more attention as a drummer. She's criminally underrated

  • @scottstrand1874
    @scottstrand1874 4 роки тому +2

    Some people forget that not the only was Meg a drummer but has a very beautiful voice and sang solo on several songs.

  • @Jolly-Green-Steve
    @Jolly-Green-Steve 3 роки тому

    playing any instrument isn't about technical ability it's about doing what ever is best for the song and almost always less is more.

  • @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
    @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267 4 роки тому +19

    Wait, so they're not actually siblings? I really never knew about that hahahah. Meg just did what she needed to do in the songs, and no one else could do it like she did.

    • @TH3F4LC0Nx
      @TH3F4LC0Nx 4 роки тому +2

      I really, really hope they aren't siblings, otherwise that band was weirder than I thought! XD

    • @notreallyadog9646
      @notreallyadog9646 4 роки тому +12

      They actually formed the band when they were married, then got divorced before they became popular.
      Interesting fact. Jack took Megs last name. Megs birth name is White-Jacks isn’t. You could say Meg literally gave The White Stripes their name.

    • @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
      @matheusmoreiradearaujo3267 4 роки тому

      @@notreallyadog9646 that's very interesting! I hope she doesn't feel mad about it lol

    • @stuartcole4845
      @stuartcole4845 4 роки тому +6

      I remember thinking they were siblings early on in their career only to see them live and share a passionate kiss on stage and think, “what the fuck?”

    • @danielterrell2191
      @danielterrell2191 4 роки тому

      @@TH3F4LC0Nx You can look on their wikipedia pages. Jack is from southwest Detroit and Meg is from Grosse Pointe. Most sibling don't grow up 15 miles apart.

  • @miketolbert94
    @miketolbert94 4 роки тому +4

    I've always loved Meg's drumming. IMHO, The White Stripes was always Meg White and company.

  • @The_Fat_Turtle
    @The_Fat_Turtle 4 роки тому

    Been speaking the praises of Meg White for years, but technical masters tend to dominate discussions in every instrument.

  • @ratsalad178
    @ratsalad178 4 роки тому

    whoever did the graphics for this video, HUGE kudos

  • @spudvader
    @spudvader 4 роки тому +6

    Did you know that Sid Vicious never played on Never Mind The Bollocks? Cause he was in hospital and he couldn't play bass any way

    • @nocallnoshow6878
      @nocallnoshow6878 4 роки тому

      Sid Vicious was hired as eye candy for punk fans. And this is well known. He wasn't even plugged in sometimes.

  • @hectorjenkins934
    @hectorjenkins934 4 роки тому +4

    Her drumming works because her and Jacks sound was messy and imperfect yet beautiful. Obviously her drumming isn't perfect but it drives the band forward and is unique to her style. No other drummer could play those songs as well as she does

  • @chriscollins343
    @chriscollins343 3 роки тому

    The sound and style WAS what it was. Thats what MADE The White Stripes.

  • @aujax1
    @aujax1 4 роки тому +1

    the simplicity of her drumming made their sound great. the whole thing was genius.

  • @kemdo123
    @kemdo123 4 роки тому +16

    Literally never heard southern pronounced that way ever @ 3:31

    • @d3ada5tronaut
      @d3ada5tronaut 4 роки тому +2

      that's how it's pronounced in Canada. I say it like that too. it's a product of Canadian raising that changes how south is pronounced, so in this region southern never started being pronounced like "suthern" but remained being pronounced like "sewthern" (the vowel is "oddd" because that's the sound that was affected in a Canadian accent)

    • @yossarian3
      @yossarian3 4 роки тому

      I have heard Willamette mispronounced a ton of times though.

  • @dane3038
    @dane3038 3 роки тому

    The first time I listened to Icky Thump I thought, "now I know what's been missing from rock drumming... BALLS".

  • @meluckycharms111
    @meluckycharms111 4 роки тому +4

    Interesting, I didn’t know that Canada had an alternate spelling for ‘Defense.’ Learned something new today (in addition to the great Meg White content)

    • @casanovafunkenstein5090
      @casanovafunkenstein5090 4 роки тому +1

      What, defence is always spelled with a C.

    • @AmberAmber
      @AmberAmber 4 роки тому

      @@casanovafunkenstein5090 I lived in NY as a Canadian for 17 yrs. It was hard to get used to the differently spelled words.
      And as drums are the only instrument I'm good at? Meg delights me - the way Karen Carpenter does.And Sheila E. She's magic in my humble opinion.💗

    • @artiezonk
      @artiezonk 4 роки тому

      Defense in the American spelling. Defence is the British English (and Australian and Canadian). Same thing with color vs colour and some other words that currently escape my mind. (And agreed great Meg content!)

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor 4 роки тому

      In British English, the word is spelled with a C - defence. Only when used in the adjective is the s is substituted for the c - defensively. Canada as a former British colony uses British English.

  • @dugfriendly
    @dugfriendly 2 роки тому +1

    I mean, this band and Smashing Pumpkins are two of my favorites ever. And despite folks criticising the women in the bands, the only thing I wonder about about is "what if the lead singers had better voices." But it's the same thing. The voices are unique to the bands.

  • @tommyshaw8790
    @tommyshaw8790 3 роки тому +1

    On the importance of Meg White's style:
    Her critics would be the same ones who add purple and red splashes like a Jackson Pollock to 'fill in' and add complexity to a Japanese masterwork "Willow in Winter" or the same who think the universal emergency code should have been "Please quickly send help to save our ship" instead of "S.O.S." They completely miss the point.
    I do really love some wild drum pieces, too, like "The Ox" by the Who, and "Dharma For One" by Jethro Tull. Imagine overlaying that style over "Icky Thump" or "Hardest Button to Button," or "Seven Nation Army." (!!) Those would have been good pop songs... and risen to #85 on the top 100 and disappeared? Here we are, a decade and half or so later, and the friikin international anthem for football (and football) is the pounding power of "Seven Nation Army." I heard it still this weekend, from college bands on TV and at a soccer event.
    And just because someone has left the pop world hysteria, whether or not by choice, doesn't diminish the work done. Do you level the same criticism at Keith Moon or Jimi Hendrix... because they are no longer in the scene, still playing? Wow. Shallow.
    It does not change what the music does. It does not change that I must still put down whatever I'm doing and absorb, or be absorbed by, the primal energy in those White Stripes songs. There's no expiration date on that power. I am renewed, energized, and feel joy at that power. The clarity of the drums hold it together, make direction in the beautiful madness that is the guitar and voice of Jack White. So, I say, "WHATEVRrrrrr" to the naysayers. I am energized by her contribution, so thank you. THANK you to Meg White, and peace in whatever you do.

  • @DarttheLegend
    @DarttheLegend 4 роки тому +4

    I have never heard anyone say Meg White is a bad drummer, or that Jack was the only real member of the White Stripes. I have only heard people say "people say Meg White sucks" like I'm not saying nobody has ever said it but like, where is the primary source for this claim?

  • @elijahleighton1390
    @elijahleighton1390 4 роки тому +4

    Absolute favorite band, sparked my love for listening to and playing music. Wouldn't be who I am now without the white stripes.

  • @hammies.
    @hammies. 4 роки тому +10

    2:34 it's a pretty well known fact that Sid could barely play the bass 😐He was mostly there for stage presence

  • @davidprevost6670
    @davidprevost6670 3 роки тому

    Meg was a huge part of my love of the white stripes. They just fit together.

  • @satanihelvetet
    @satanihelvetet 2 роки тому

    Agree to 100%. Simple but great, that's what Megs drumming in WS was.

  • @pyenapple
    @pyenapple 4 роки тому +7

    Willamette Week: it’s “wuh-LAMMIT” not “willah-met”, but who cares it’s 2020

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 4 роки тому

      Ha ha. I pronounce it Will-AM-it.

  • @bigfootisjustreallyshy
    @bigfootisjustreallyshy 4 роки тому +83

    but Sid Vicious wasn't a great musician. He barely knew how to play bass.

  • @rad7595
    @rad7595 2 роки тому +1

    She's the best drummer I've heard in a long time...she locked on to Jack, no bass...best rythm section in forever...

  • @edgarbloodofficial
    @edgarbloodofficial 4 роки тому

    The original concept was an outlet to bring songs he had written in so many other projects. So many songs were written and done before white stripes were even a thought. It is very much a Jack White Project

  • @SuperRat420
    @SuperRat420 4 роки тому +34

    This guy sounds just like Big Joel

    • @sithvaultboy
      @sithvaultboy 4 роки тому

      Sounded more like chills to me.

    • @sepulpedro
      @sepulpedro 4 роки тому +1

      Jajajajajajajaa I've been thinking about that for months

    • @LON009
      @LON009 4 роки тому +3

      I mentioned that in another video. Just change the speed to x0.75 and you'll get Big Joel!

    • @jackalthereefer
      @jackalthereefer 4 роки тому +1

      Is Big Joel Canadian? Cuz Polyphonic sounds so super Canadian

    • @Monique.Marceline
      @Monique.Marceline 4 роки тому +2

      I came here to ask if this was Big Joel lol

  • @Cradley51
    @Cradley51 3 роки тому

    As a musician for a decade having worked on 6 marginally successful albums as a bassist. Also touring with 3 prog bands, and a couple rock bands and studio work for a handful of other projects it is my belief that you don't need technical skill. The great part about art is that it is felt.
    Meg is an artist because she uses her skill to create what she wants us to feel and what to hear.
    I have minimal skill but the reason I make money doing this is because I know not only what notes to play. But the reason they have to have to be played.
    Thank you for sure a great video.

  • @Stensar69
    @Stensar69 4 роки тому

    It's like a shrine to Meg, very cool And very deserved on Meg's part.

  • @anachronologist2017
    @anachronologist2017 4 роки тому +13

    Meg White might be the most underrated musician of all time, and something tells me she likes it that way.

    • @angeltorres4089
      @angeltorres4089 4 роки тому

      Frank Fitzpatrick umm no. Dave Grohl....

    • @griffinhan-lalime4357
      @griffinhan-lalime4357 4 роки тому

      @@angeltorres4089 Dave Grohl is an underrated musician in the same way that Quentin Tarantino is an underrated filmmaker

  • @juanpintero
    @juanpintero 4 роки тому +2

    I never airdrumming more than where I'm listening White Stripes. Thanks Meg!