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2024 Asus Zephyrus G14 vs G16 vs 2023 G14 - Which Laptop is Best in 2024?
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
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Three of the best Zephyrus laptops from Asus go head to head! Which one do you think is best? I wanted to give my take on how I felt about these gaming laptops, especially the 2024 Zephyrus G14, which this can be considered the official review for. We're looking at specs, availability, design, display, performance, battery life, and much more!
Link to buy the 2024 ROG Zephyrus G16 from Asus: tidd.ly/4dREcks
Link to buy the 2024 ROG Zephyrus G14 from Asus: tidd.ly/3xF4FkQ
Link to buy the 2023 ROG Zephyrus G14 from Asus: tidd.ly/462L7Ut
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
4:40 Displays
6:06 G14 Display Nitpick
9:25 Overall Design
12:11 Speakers and Fan Noise
17:07 Thermals and Wattage
22:58 Software - Quick Overview
25:13 Battery - They're all GOOD
26:34 For Creators
28:16 Gaming Benchmarks
32:20 Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe if you haven’t already for more new laptop videos on the way 🙂 I will update this pinned comment with any news/updates/things missed about these laptops as I see them!
Hi Josh!
I recently purchased the G14 with the rtx 4060, but I have a problem with advanced optimus. When I select dGPU only in Nvidia Control Panel the screen goes black and never lights up.
Pressing Windows+P cycles thourgh Projecting option that way I can get my screen to work, it stays in optimus.
Do you have any idea what could cause Advanced Optimus not working?
In armoury crate I can select Ultimate mode so only dGPU is active, and it works after reboot.
@@simonnagy1 Try installing DDU to completely remove your Nvidia graphics driver and then clean install the latest one directly from Nvidia
@@JoshCravesTech I tried it, sadly didn't work. Still when switching to Nvidia GPU only screen goes black and stays black until the action is reverted.
I asked Nvidia for help, they said the same thing, perform custom clean install after wiping all drivers.
I hope Josh you have some other ideas what might work...
@@simonnagy1 did you ever mess with the “fake” second display in windows display settings at some point? You may need to do a Windows in-place reset. It’s like a Windows reset but without removing your files and apps. Before you do that though, hold the power button for 60 seconds with the laptop on to do a refresh of your drivers. If that doesn’t fix it then do the Windows refresh.
@@JoshCravesTech I tried the driver refresh thing, and again, for half a second it worked, it said "internal display connected to Nvdida Graphics" , but then screen went black again, the same thing happened.
It seems like It could work, but some software command stops it after 0.5s.
Anyway I will try the windows in-place reset tomorrow se if it helps solve the issue.
My g16 4090 is my favorite laptop I've ever owned, huge fan of the older g15, and the scars, had them all, but this G16 has ticked every box. Trackpad, speakers, screen, battery life (holy shit), gaming performance, portability, I mean damn. This is it. 🎉
@@jesf570 it’s a beast!
What about warming up? Is that a problem? I've read that this makes the battery last less.
@@DanielNieto3733 I don't own one yet, but it's nothing to worry about, trust me.
You’re good at reviewing. I came here from a Reddit post of your video comparing laptop displays. Great work. Do more, bro!
@@HeavyD0924 thank you!!
Couldn't agree more on the RAM options! At this price point, they should come with 32GB, or at least unconventional 24GB. (Damn that laptop speaker music is such a bop!)
G14 4080 2023 with Mini LED is the unicorn but unfortunately just as rare
@@exar8355 yeah I don’t even know where you can get that model if you’re in the US
regarding the prices, i'd rather get the oled instead😅
I think it's available in India, oddly, but possibly nowhere else. (And a wonderful video, as always!)
We got it here in Canada for $3699 LOL
@@exar8355 That's the thing it didn't make sense here for most buyers since there are more moderate gamers and the price was too high.
I ultimately bought a G14 due to this review. Answered every question I had and then some! Thanks!!
@@TheHG210 thank you!!
I would recommend that anyone looking to buy one go to a store and get some hands on time. I was convinced I'd want one (Zeph G16) from all the reviews, however, I found the build quality, the touch and feel of the device very 'consumer grade', if I can put it that way. Coming from a Dell Precision 7740 and a Surface 5 Pro, I found it very cheap feeling compared to those, let alone a Macbook. Not saying its a technically bad device, but it doesn't feel as premium as it looks in the review videos. Maybe that's not important to you at that price point, but for some it is, so do yourself a favour and go have a look in person 🙂
What are you getting instead?
@rasundesilva6088 Still haven't made a choice yet. Busy evaluating the Snapdragon laptops for compatibility, the G16 with the AMD CPU is also an option. Tough time to make a choice.
@@JustifyJustinFunny you say that, I was looking at the G14/G16 coming from a surface 7 pro from 2019. The ASUS laptops seem better performance wise and a little cheaper than the new surface with snapdragon would have costed me in the spec I want. Let me know if you do find anything.
You helped me finally settle on getting a G14 for college. Thanks for the amazing review!
hey have you bought it? If you had, would you share me your experience with it?
@danielngo6037 I've had the 2024 G14 (32GB RAM model) and it's pretty much perfect for college. It's super light and thin so no there's no heavy baggage while carrying it around. It's also dead silent while doing normal tasks, although that's mostly due to GHelper (which you should definitely get).
As for cons, the only major thing is fan noise during heavy gaming. It can get pretty loud. Although I guess every laptop has that problem. Fortunately for the G14, the speakers are incredible and will drown out the fan noise.
Battery life is decent. If you use GHelper's optimizations (such as switching the display to 60hz when unpligged and turning off the dGPU) you can get a solid 4-5 hours. Not the best, not the worst.
Overall I'm very happy with my laptop. It can run pretty much any game at high settings. If you end up buying it, I recommend buying it from BestBuy. Good warranty and sometimes has really good sales!
@@tico5058 I recommend disabling CPU boost on all modes and try limiting the wattage the cpu uses as well as undervolt it, battery life should be much better. I get about 8-7 hours at 80% charge with mine doing light web browsing and watching YT videos. I haven't tested a full charge yet but it should be around 10-9 hours for the same use case.
Honestly just stumbled across this video by accident and having the 2024 G16 myself, I absolutely loved this video. You did your research, you followed up on previous issues that were fixed and you talked about things that most reviewers don't talk about, but matter to the end user. I also really liked how you put other reviewers concerns about GPU TDP, fan noise and temps in persepctive and explained it in a way that was easy to understand. Kepp it up dude, really good job!
@@Pembigevil appreciate your comment, glad you enjoyed the video!! 🙂
Very well done! I bought the 4070 g14 about a month ago, and have been really happy with it.
@@klledbetter great to hear!
Damn bro this is probably the best review for any laptop ive seen. Ive been in shambles for a week now deciding what to get for college cuz its so sleek and good looking. you’ve honestly pushed me to get the G14/16, leaning more towards the 14 just because my experience with AMD has been pretty good.
@@singhfrom5ab thank you so much!!
Man, I started watching laptop reviews when I had to buy a laptop in February. I bought a g14 2023 4060 then (for a grand on bestbuy). But didn’t stop watching reviews since then for some reason :) Just Josh, canucks, dave2d, Jarrod (sometimes) and you. Gradually I got bored with this topic, but man, I was waiting for your g14 2024 review so bad. There is something both entertaining and inspiring in the videos you do, keep it up, bro. Wish you will start doing it fulltime. P.S. I plan to upgrade to either g14 2024 4070 or the new px13 (hope to see your take on it).
That makes me happy to hear that you find the reviews entertaining. Definitely something I'm trying to do is differentiate myself from your average laptop/tech reviewer so that means a lot! I will definitely try to get my hands on a px13 as well. Thank you!
I bought the Lenovo Legion 5 Slim OLED because it was half the price in my location as the G14 with a 4060. Next year, I’ll definitely get a G16 with a 5090 (whenever it’s released in these laptops), but now I’m extremely satisfied with the Legion.
Nice! That is also a great laptop. G16 with a 5090 is gonna go crazy though 100%.
I have the G16 and the screen wobble is totally fine, some reviewers defo showed a bad wobble but i have none. Great review mate
@@Corko11 agreed! Thank you 🙂
very nice review, more in depth than other reviews I've seen on this laptop.
best review of these laptoops by far!
still undecided between the last year's 4090 g14 or the 2024 4070 g14 - any thoughts on which would ideally be the most value?
@@tamxo2451 most future proof would definitely be the 4090 G14, but go for the new G14 if you don’t care about fps as much and just want luxury thinness, speakers, and metal body. I’m still daily driving the 4090 G14 personally though, it’s just so powerful and I’d miss having all that.
Perfect timing. Want to pull for either(except for the 2024 g14) this week
That laptop speakers test song had me cracking up
What do you mean? Are they bad?
@@joshuakosloski6873 No! the lyrics were just funny. "did your eardrums get destroyed by these laptop speakers"
That 1800p is needed for perfect scaling of 200%....Rather than fractional scaling of 150% or 175% which cause images or text to blur in some apps.So The Choice of display is good actually.
Wouldn't 200% need to be 4K? Or am I missing something? 1080 * 2 = 2160p. Also idk if it's just me but I haven't experienced scaling issues on Windows in years personally. Not something I look into much so maybe it's still a thing.
In this display's case the efective resolution we are getting is 1440x900 but multiplied by 2=2880*1800...this achieves perfect scaling without blurring/missing pixel edges,kinda like how apple does to it's retina displays. It's much more clearer than fractional scaling. We can always play in lower resolution to increase FPS,but this is just more important for productivity apps.
bro, there is an actual difference between these marketing review and yours.... BIG UPP
Thanks!
@@JoshCravesTechDoes the g14 2023 feel like a premium and sturdy monolithic laptop when compared to the g14 2024?
Some wrote that the G14 2024 has a very soft lid and bottom. And they concluded that it would be better to have a plastic bottom than such thin metal. The MacBook is much thicker and more durable.
By the way, if you have seen the G14 2022-2023 in gray and white - which one looks more premium, especially regarding the prismatic back? I don't have a chance to see them before purchasing. White looks nice, but it seems like it can be a big contrast and distracting when working. Thank you.
@@e0236 it’s definitely a somewhat thinner metal but it still feels very sturdy on the 2024 model. With how lightweight it is though, I’d almost say the 2023 is more “tanky”. Like I’d trust that one to take a fall pretty well because of how thick the magnesium alloy is. Hard to pick though because I really think both are plenty sturdy enough! To me the white looks better but the gray is more “business” if that’s your thing.
@@JoshCravesTech It’s interesting what could be the reason for the fact that for G14 2021-2023 there are a lot of complaints about a cracked case, while for G15/G16 2022/2023 for some reason there are no such complaints at all. Both G14 and G15,16 passed through your hands, did you notice the difference in the quality of the plastic? Perhaps g15/16 feels more durable? On G14 2022/2023, people's cases crack even with loose screws and very gentle handling and in just a week or a month.
On G14 it literally produces a huge pile of topics and messages on Reddit. While on G15 and G16 it doesn’t show anything.
@@e0236 I think just in general people travel more with their G14’s so they’re abused more often. That and the G14 is a BIG seller. There are more G14’s sold than G15’s so it seems like you might just see a higher proportion because of that. Otherwise I’ve handled all of those and they’re identical in the quality. You’d have to be handling the laptop pretty recklessly to get a crack in it. People are bad about over-tighten screws too, that’s a big user issue. I’ve taken my G15/G14/G16 everywhere throughout the years and never experienced even a scratch on the chassis. And I’m not even super careful. I put stuff on top of my laptop bag, it falls over in the car, etc. still no damage.
Hell yeah man another video from you is another great day! I can't wait to see more reviews and videos! Also I know you probably think it's lame but if you could review the Asus Scar Strix 2024 I would appreciate it I really wanna buy it but you're the only reviewer I really trust with my purchases
Thank you!! I've considered the Scar. They aren't my favorite laptop, but if I find one on sale much cheaper or something I might scoop it up.
This is, for me, the new gold standard for laptop reviews. Brilliant video
@@TwskiTV thank you!
You earned a Like for the Ableton testing. Much appreciated. Can you comment on RAM usage in the test? I'm thinking of going with the G14, but concerned that I would have to pay more for add'l RAM since it's not upgradable. :(
I am following you from Iraq, from the capital, Baghdad ..
I am confused between
Zephyrus G14 2024
with Ryzen 9-8945HS,
4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $1533 ..
and between
Zephyrus G16 2024
with Intel Core Ultra 9 185H,
4060 RTX, 32GB RAM and 1TB SSD for $2166 ..
What do you think of both deals and which one do you recommend to me ?
Just for the record, I don't play games
I want it for programming, video editing, design, and productivity in general.
i’d go with G14 since it’s significantly cheaper for similar performance.
G14
G14 if between these two
Waiting to see how the Strix Point G16 will be
@@McDowell666 same!
I am thinking of buying a laptop but confesed between asus rog zephyrus G16 2024 with ultra 9 and 32 gb with 4070 vs asus rog strix G16 2024 with i9-14th with 4070 and 32 gb ram.
One more think do you also think that rog strix laptop doesn't have a optimised graphics card and thermals.
Two VERY different laptops! The Zephyrus is all about portability, battery life, and being extremely premium (CNC aluminum, super thin and light), while the Strix G16 is more about raw power. The GPU's will perform about the same, but the G16's CPU has much more power to it, so in CPU-bound games like Counterstrike, Valorant, or Fortnite that might prove to be useful. The Strix will run a little bit cooler too because of how thick it is. Personally I'd get the Zephyrus though because the Strix only makes sense with a 4080/4090 GPU to me, where it can really stretch its legs.
@@JoshCravesTech Do you think that Zephyrus is future-proof for upcoming high-end games coming. I want to use this laptop for 4 years
@@hiteshsharma6522 Absolutely!
I have the g16 4090
And the g14 4070 both 2024 models (wanted to try them out)
Honest to goodness they’re both such amazing laptops. I love them both. I do favor my G14 just because of the form factor for travel and I don’t notice a huge drop off in games that I play like hell divers or Jedi Survivor. However, of course, the G16 display size mix with the 4090 is unbeatable , I do find for me personally with G helper settings both battery life are improved greatly but my G 14 always seems to out perform my G 6 battery life.
I’m a g14 guy because I travel but if you are gonna be at home then you can’t go wrong.
They are gorgeous either way and worth the upgrade imo
Also thanks so much Josh! This was so helpful!
Nice! And yeah for travel, the G14 is just crazy lightweight and easy to take anywhere.
Surface Pro 11 and Surface Laptop 7 seem to be absolute home runs, I can't remember the last time I saw so much positivity across the board surround windows laptops.
I watched your G16 video and it helped me pull the trigger on an open box 2024 G14 1TB yesterday. However, I'm coming from a MBP from 2012 and have gotten really used to the Macbook feel. I travel a lot and would game occasionally on it since I have a 3080 desktop at home. Do you have any experience running games on the newer MBP via Crossover, Whiskey, etc?
Your reviews are so well done! I can see your channel growing to 100k+ subscribers in no time!
New MBP uses ARM CPUs, very different if you care about gaming.
Macbook displays shows ghost effects though, if you're sensitive to that.
How much it costed for you?
Thank you for the dense, straightforward review!
I own the G14 2023 4090 and it's a beast.
I just love the heavy punch in such a small package.
I'm happy to trade the slick design and thinness for raw power.
I root for G14 2023!
@@igordrukov4776 nice! Still loving mine
I have the 2023 G14 with the 4070. I found that enabling dGPU only mode through nvidia control panel gave me way more power (sustained) to the gpu, while lowering cpu a tad. I got 13,000 on time spy for graphics and 11,402 for cpu
awesome review man i've been interested in getting the 2024 g14 but do you think it could last me my 4 years in college? I previously bought an Asus Rog G16 in 2020 and it only lasted 2 years when the performance gradually worsened.
@@mofliw6933 absolutely could pull 4 years! Just clean the fans every 6 months or so and don’t load it down with bloatware
I have the G16, and sheesh no FN lock is crazy! I like the laptop, but that feature's got to get added.
@@miniDrew4 very true, so weird how it’s not there! Luckily G-Helper is a godsend and has it
2014 G14 4060 is on sale for 1299 at Best Buy and the g14 4070 is 1750 at Best Buy right now which would be the better buy?
Tough choice! It's about 10-15% more performance between the 4060 and 4070. However, you can get an open box excellent 4060 for just a little over $900 and that is just an insane deal.
@@JoshCravesTech Forsure just no open box ones in my area unfortunately only brand new :/
What are your thoughts on the upcoming AMD variant of the G16 that’s dropping soon? What use case could you see that being a good choice over the G14 or G16 Intel variant?
If it has better battery life then it may be worthwhile, or significantly improved performance. I personally think it'll be maybe 10-15% more powerful than the Intel Core Ultra and I'm not sure how it's going to do with battery life. It might even be worse with it having more cores now, but we'll see! It's supposed to release around July 15th.
Hi Josh, I really love your reviews. Is it possible for you to compare the G14s (23 and 24) against a macbook air/pro? I know macbook's battery is unmatched but I'm really interested in knowing how close can the G14 get to a macbook experience once it's been thoroughly optimized through the G-helper.
p.s absolutely love the gifs you throw in your reviews
Awesome review as usual Josh! I feel the G16 4090 is better than 2023 g14 in almost everything:
- Thinner laptop
- Bigger screen while weight increase by only 200 grams !!!
- Fan noise and thermals
- Better battery
- Oled screen
- Better chasis and design
- Larger touchpad
the 2023 is better for the RAM and a negligible fraction of FPS, and smaller chassis in XY dimensions naturally.
I feel kinda bad I didn't wait for the 2024 G16.
@@iKaBoZ820 I can totally get that! It’s really hard to say which one I like more. I think if I didn’t already have the G14 I’d probably go for the G16. VERY interested to see what they do next year
@@JoshCravesTech me too I think they set the bar so high, and this is a great thing! The g16 is exactly the perfect laptop that was in my dreams so many years ago.
The g14 is still awesome and since most deep work/gaming I do over an ultrawide monitor, i don’t feel so bad about the screen being a little small.
2024 g16 4080 with 48gb of ram and 2tb drive, because I don't need 4tb, even though, for some reason it's such a cheap upgrade. Even the ram, going down to 32 and even 16 barely saves you anything. What's going on on Amazon?
It’s so beautiful. The g16. Hope next year they do miniled but not sure if they r on the oled wagon already
Yeah I'm genuinely curious where they'll go with this now. For the first year with this design they knocked it out of the park. Very excited for what 2025 holds!
Love your video man, Its great.
I am stuck between G16 and the strix scar 16 2024 model in terms of display, The new scar has over 2000 dimming zones.
Is there a visible image quality difference between an oled and a mini led ?
What do you recommend overall bro, I really need to make a decision.
Thanks.
Yeah that's a tough one! Those are two VERY different laptops in terms of performance and thickness/battery. The mini-LED will of course be brighter and I've heard the 2,000 dimming zones has made blooming even more hard to notice. Some people have told me they don't really see it at all. So for brightness the Scar wins. The OLED will still always have more "perfect" contrast in comparison, but just won't be nearly as bright. And of course the G16 is a much thinner and lighter laptop with good battery life, while the Scar is a thicc powerhouse with lower battery life.
Appreciate it man,
going with G16 on this one.
Again thanks a lot for your genuine reviews.
I have g14 with ryzen 7735hs, nvidia 3050
It has average temperature around 80-90 c, while gaming it get high as 94-95c , no option for undervolting , not happy with the purchase
Amazing videos man!
Hey question here - i'm using g16 2024 with 4090 with Ghelper:
Can I use my laptop connected to a 32" monitor whilst it being closed without damaging the screen long term?
@@thomasbitsch5488 most of the exhaust comes out the back of the laptop so it should be fine. Personally I would leave it open just because I’m paranoid though 🤣
Yeah i thought so too lol! Im also paranoid! I Actually bought a really cool laptop stand where its suppose to hold my pc vertical with the lid closed - and on this specefic stand i can open the lid too, making room for that extra bit of suction that the pc needs from the keyboard.
@@JoshCravesTech Thanks a lot for the answer.
@@thomasbitsch5488 Yep, better safe than sorry! Lol
A great comparison!
What about quality control issues? Some reviewers pointed out wobbly touchpad with unsatisfying clicks on G16.
In these thin high-performance laptops, I would also like to see the battery temperature under load, which decreases the longevity of the battery, and the SSD temperature under load, which may cause throttling.
I will consider adding those things in the future! But yes, qc issues seem to be sort of rare, but the most common one is definitely the trackpad on the G16. I have seen quite a few people now with the weird click like what mine had :(
Frustrating when you spend 2500 and beyond to get Ram or SSD bottlenecked 😢
@@fractalarbitrage yeah they really need more options to buy
I got my 2024 G16 4070 open box excellent condition for 1300$. Is the laptop worth it at that price considering its msrp is 2000$?
@@projectroyal1837 that’s an awesome deal!!
Been waiting for this, I'm about to buy one G14 2024 4060 but worry so much about thermal and OLED burn in. Any suggestion?
@@directorz236 I think as long as you take precautions for basic OLED care then you can probably go through the whole life of the laptop without experiencing burn-in. They use an S-stripe subpixel layout, which is the best for preventing burn-in. Obviously I can’t guarantee it won’t happen, but it’s certainly one of the better panels.
Amazing video as always thanks again!
I think they didn't give any config options this time because it is last year's GPU. Hoping they have better plans for 2025.
2023 Model of G 14 was actually really good but then again because of Nvidia they didn't get the pricing right in some regions. Now will they choose AMD again for next year? Let's see.
In the US the maxed out version of G 14 (2024) costs $ 2000. In my country a 16GB RTX 4060 G 14 (2024) costs $ 2100. That's just something most people will not spend on.
Wow, yeah that pricing is crazy! And I agree, I think 2025 will be a different story, and I'm very excited for it.
I was strongly considering the Yoga Pro 9i before, but after seeing so many reports and real-life reviews stating its battery life still leaves much to be desired with the same specs, I started to strongly consider something else. I haven't had a gaming laptop since an MSI GS with a 970 back in the day, and am still leery about OLED, but I think this laptop will really fit all of my needs: battery life for schooling, multi-tasking specs for how I use computers, and gaming specs for on-the-go gaming (and as a temporary stand-in if my desktop keels over before I can build a new one.)
I do wish it was able to be optioned up to 64GB of RAM since it's soldered, it's quite odd that they aren't able to offer that when others of the same size can, and hiding 32GB behind an upgraded GPU many may not want is not the play (that's more of a Razer or Apple thing to do.)
It's a very Razer/Apple move to make people upgrade their GPU to get more RAM. And I love that they only did it in some regions like the US. Unless you're cool with waiting for the AMD model to release in a couple weeks. But yeah I'm glad someone understands my sentiment with the Yoga. I was even strongly considering it for myself until I did (way too much) research on what actual users were experiencing and saw the same stuff. Even chatted with a couple owners who ended up returning theirs. It's just really hard to beat the G16 right now. One thing I recommend is sticking to the Asus-provided drivers, at least for the Intel graphics for best battery life. Newer drivers seem to all affect battery in some way.
@JoshCravesTech I'll be honest, the AMD model G16 draws no interest for me. I'm honestly not even happy to be getting the Core Ultra chips with their NPUs, but at least they're not completely all in on AI/Co-Pilot Recall BS yet, unlike the AMD AI 9 HX 370 almost certainly will be. It's the same reason I have absolutely 0 personal interest in buying any of the new SnapDragon Elite X laptops and their Microsoft-sponsored spyware. They could be absolutely perfect laptops in every way for my needs and I still wouldn't.
I was excited for the new Yoga, which did make some much needed improvements in terms of the port selection (last years Slim Pro 9i 16" was a joke, considering the 14" had better ports, which is why they killed it off), but has been a disappointment otherwise. It has a great screen and webcam, but nothing else really on offer. As expensive as the G16 will be here in Canada, if it fits almost all of my checkboxes, it's worth the cost.
@@sjewkes1 Yeah this AI marketing fluff is getting out of hand, lol. I'm also not super interested in the AMD model. I have a hard time believing that it's going to be a huge improvement anyways. More cores/threads is great to see for AMD on laptops, but I don't think it's gonna be a game changer.
@@JoshCravesTechIt is deeply concerning how much of it is making its way into desktop hardware as well, but we'll have to see how long that bid lasts given the average users feelings on or usage of AI.
I'm honestly shocked with how well-rounded the Intel version is, given how badly Intel has been doing in the last 10 years, but their Core Ultra lineup is surprisingly competent thus far for laptops. I'll probably end up snagging an AMD model of something smaller with mini-LED for maximum portability, longevity, and battery life as a travel device, but based on reviews the G16 is shaping up to be what I'd hoped the Yoga was, albeit with an OLED. Its webcam and screen brightness seem to leave something to be desired but these are minor items really.
Как думаете, что лучше? Купить сейчас g16 на RTX 4090 или ждать, пока не выйдет что-нибудь на 5090 в следующем году?
Hey Josh honest question: with the discount right now on best buy, would you go with the G14 4060 16gb or G14 4070 32gb? Without the consideration of open box discounts which one would you get and why? For context, I mainly would use it for Valorant and normal everyday use. Also, would the G14 be sufficient to use as my PC at home if I were to connect it to my monitor and keyboard?
@@user-lz9yc7qi8c I would go for G14 4070 32GB! More RAM, better GPU. Even at 90W, the 4070 will perform a little better. And it will do great as a home PC!
Best review btw keep it up thank you
@@ReviewThisTestThat thank you!’
How would you compare ASUS and Lenovo as far as their reliability and longevity? Will the ASUS G16 last me 5+ years?
@@calvinn866 theyre about the same. Some people might say one or the other is better but it depends on so many factors. For the average person, you could expect about the same life out of both.
Hi
Great review. But I'm sensitive to screen flicker. I've heard the OLED has PWM under 60%.
But uses DC dimming above 60%. I'm unfamiliar with that technology, could you plesase explain, it would be a big help.
Thank you
Oh shoot I keep forgetting to mention DC dimming. Thanks to G-Helper, you can use DC dimming all the way to 0%! It uses software brightness/gamma settings to reduce the brightness of the display instead of relying on PWM. So the only downside is that below 60% you might not get the most "accurate" gamma, but the tradeoff is probably worth it to not experience PWM.
@@JoshCravesTech Thank you. It would be great if in future you metioned it in your great reviews. PWM effects more and more people these days, so it would be a big help.
@@jedi55 yeah I will definitely be mentioning it in the next review when I get the AMD model!
I think the g14 2024 rtx4070 is gonna be my new laptop, do you think in black friday well be more affordable? Or in usa is there a different web but ebay where can I find that laptop cheaper? G14 2024 or g16 2024 rtx4090 are my options
Yeah the 2024 G14 is a beauty. It will definitely go on sale Black Friday. It's already been on sale on Best Buy multiple times, including right now. You can get an open-box excellent G14 4070 for only $1600.
Hi Josh, great video I’ve been watching your videos ever since I wanted a gaming laptop and they have been super helpful. I recently got a g14 2024 and have noticed the screen is grainy like on gray backgrounds, icons appear fuzzy and blurry. For example if I have an app minimized the corners expand and it’s like a gray border around them. Is that normal for the oled screens? Are you experiencing the same things.
@@imcomp2819 yes, there is grain on gray backgrounds. I think I mentioned it in this video or the G16 review under the display chapter. Icons being blurry? Maybe that’s a scaling thing. They shouldn’t be blurry, although the subpixel layout of OLED is typically a little blurrier than IPS, but it shouldn’t be noticeable on a 14” display unless you have eagle eyes, lol. See if it changes if you switch between Eco mode (dGPU disabled) and Nvidia GPU-only mode (switch to this in Nvidia Control Panel). If it looks the same no matter what then yeah it’s probably just the nature of the display.
Hi josh! Awesome review like always
So i went ahead and bought this variant with IPS ROG nebula display instead of OLED ROG nebula display(GU605MI QP253WS, its 32gb+1tb 8gb4070 ultra 9) and I really was not able to tell any difference between the one i took and the oled version kept on display at the store
Can you tell me why is it so
That’s interesting! The IPS display is one of the better ones out there for a laptop so in some cases it is hard to tell a difference. The differences between OLED and IPS become more apparent in darker content typically, like a starry night or a dark cave, fireworks in a night sky, etc.
@@JoshCravesTech
Right! Plus the IPS display variant has a glossy finish to it instead of a matte finish so it looks much better than a regular ips display. I tested the blacks like you did in your other video, and yes, the blacks are not truly "black".
Just a quick question
I do not need to keep a dark background, low brightness (and so on and so forth) as precautions right? The IPS should be able to handle the colours, or is there any burn in that can occur on ips as well?
@@GeigerPancake16 yep, the glossy display helps A LOT for IPS! And yes that’s correct, no need for you to worry about any of that for your display. You can safely run free with any background, icons, etc.
Been hearing a lot of talk about the 4060 and 4070 G16 configurations having issues with a high-pitched whine from the third fan as opposed to the vapor chamber in higher configurations. Personally, I don't need a 4080/4090 nor do I have the budget. Otherwise the G16 seems like the perfect laptop! Do you think this issue is overhyped, or should those of us who dont have the money for the 4080 look elsewhere for a new laptop?
@@0TheoreticalPhysics0 the issue is overhyped for sure. There is definitely a chance you could have a whiney third fan but it doesn’t seem to affect the majority of laptops. A lot of people have also said that recent bios updates fixed the fan noise a lot. I’m assuming Asus re-tuned these particular G16’s so that the third fan stays the lowest in RPM’s.
Hey man, great video, I bought a 4060 16gig g14 2024 model and I'm in love with it. I also installed G helper as per your video coz armoury create sucked.
I know this sounds like an absolute headache of a request but would it be possible for you to leave your G helper profile settings in comments? I could not find any guides online (not ones that made sense to me anyway) and I really just want 2 modes. 1) for ultra battery saving where it's just light office work. 2) for plugged in maximum gaming performance.
I'm asking because I've tried to fiddle with the settings more times than I can count and usually land up either not seeing any difference or I brick the damn thing.
Up
visual mode set between 70-50%, disable cpu boost or set it to enabled efficient, limit the cpu wattage to 28w, optimized in gpu options, auto in refresh rate, disable slash and keyboard lighting on battery, that will get you around 10 to 12 hours of battery life depending on how much you push it
Sort of a tough one to answer cause it's hard to give a "one-size-fits-all" profile for those, but I definitely suggest watching my G-Helper video to get a better understanding! However this is my basic suggestion, at least a starting point.
1. Battery saving:
- Silent/Eco mode
- CPU boost disabled
- 60Hz
- Brightness below half, keyboard lights off or low
- Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED
- Leave fan checkbox UNCHECKED
on GPU tab, move GPU power slider and dynamic boost slider all the way down. Overclock set to 0 on both.
- Advanced tab - set an undervolt of around -15.
2. Max Performance
- Start with Turbo and make a new profile
- Leave CPU power limits checkbox UNCHECKED (unless you have a desired CPU level to reach)
- Check fans checkbox and set fans to max or a little higher than the stock turbo mode
- GPU tab: set overclock to +150 / +200
- Slide GPU power tab and dynamic boost all the way right
- Advanced tab - set undervolt of -15 again, or -20 and beyond if things don't crash
Don't touch core clock limit or temp limit unless you know what you're doing it for. Most people don't need to touch the CPU sliders either unless again you know what you're doing it for. I see a lot of people mess up a lot by clicking that "apply power limits" checkbox without knowing why they did it. Hope this helps!
@@camilopa372 holy moly 10 to 12 hours? okay so will definitely apply those settings to the battery saver option. Thanks so much!
@@JoshCravesTech hi Josh, this is exactly what I needed , thank you so much man! I always fiddled with the CPU power limits as per your g helper video. Would it be recommended to just leave it then? Are the default power limit settings enough to limit power consumption in battery saver mode / silent mode.
On the undervolting front that was what I wanted to know most so thanks for the advice on that. Will stick to -15 undervolt.
Please keep up the amazing work on your videos, well edited, not too cumbersome on details that make them boring yet thorough enough to keep me informed, and ultimately just fun to watch! :)
Love your videos man
@@nishomzawan5196 thanks!!
Absolutely love this video excellent job !!!
Thanks!!
Would you recommend the g14 for programming?
@@abdullahalmanasseer4360 yeah! It would do great for that
Honestly i’m about to pick up the 4070 g16 it’s on sale for $1600 and it seems like an insane deal
$1600 is a really good deal for what you're getting. No other laptop in that price range that I know of can offer all of these premium features.
Soldered ram without expansion is such a bummer
should i wait for the g16 with the new amd cpu and 4070 gpu or just get the g16 with intel cpu and 4080 gpu
4080 all day. I personally don't think the new AMD G16 will be all that impressive. I will be genuinely surprised if it excels in battery or performance, but I think it'll be around the same as the Intel Core Ultra.
Intel tweaked the idle and light power consumption on the new chips. It can last longer than older gens at very light tasks ... But that's efficiency under only one workload and doesn't speak to efficiency as a whole. I've benchmarked both of these units extensively and Intel performance falls off a cliff below 20w. We found the AMD chips have more low power performance when on battery. This means that as you do more complex tasks than just watching a UA-cam video, you'll see the Intel needing more power to accomplish the same task. Also, the G16 has a larger battery ... So the fact that it has the same battery life as the smaller unit, even in your very light test, indicates it needs more juice, even if some of that is the larger panel (but lower res).
Nice video
Would you mind review HP omen transcend 14 🙏🏼
Will you be doing a full review of the 2024 G14 4070? I’m on the fence between that one or the 2023 G14 4080… not sure the OLED will make the difference for the lost gaming performance 🤔
@@jamesalmond4301 this is what I’m considering the review since almost everything is identical to the G16 other than performance and some little details. I’d recommend the 4080 G14 though personally if you want performance that you’ll feel comfortable with for years. The new one is great ONLY if you’re cool with the 4070. That is really the biggest limiting factor. Everything else about it is amazing.
@@JoshCravesTech I think I’ll end up with the 2024 model simply due to it being a more premium product. I can always play games at a lower resolution as you recommend.
I think a dedicated video on the 2024 model would be great for those who just can’t decide between the two - I’ve seen on Reddit that a lot of people aren’t sure which one to get.
One thing that is annoying is that in the UK the G14 doesn’t have the RGB backlit keyboard - annoying…
Thanks for your help! Fantastic video.
@@jamesalmond4301 Nice! Yeah it is next-level as far as premium laptops go. You'll enjoy it!
Can you change the 73 wh battery for the G14 (2024) to a 99wh battery? Does silent mode increase the battery longlife? I always play in Performance or Balance Mode because I hate Fan noise. Can you actually change the Fans for better ones or shouldn't you do it?
Acutally the Asus Zephyrus G14 is very similar to the Samsung Galaxy Book3 Ultra. The Asus is a little bit louder, but the Samsung has higher temperature in the middle. Good video 😄but I wish you would show us the color gamput because for example Lenovo Laptops are bad in these cases. I recommend to use the Laptop between 20-80% battery and 60-80% birghtness. Good displays btw. have good color gambut, high refresh rate, oled and high brightness. The G14 is the price-performance king if you want to play on battery up to 1hour.
@@friendlyavatar3358 you cannot swap the battery. Silent mode increases battery life but doesn’t affect longevity. I don’t think you can physically swap out the fans, nor do I think it would affect anything. You can always change the fan speed manually using G-Helper. And yeah I actually forgot to put my screenshots in for color gamut. Measured 100% DCI-P3 and 100% sRGB and 94% of Adobe RGB
How will the 4060 g14 be for gaming in the next couple years? I would love 32 gb or ram but I can’t justify paying right now a $900 difference for a 4070 and 32gb or ram
Yeah, in the US the 4070 will likely go on sale again if you can wait it out, but the 4060 will be just fine for years still. Still a good GPU overall!
Hey man, there's and autible difference from the sound quality from the g14 to g16. On the website it shows both the G14 and G16 have 6 speakers... is the eq just difference or can you hear a noticeable technicality + low end extension increase on sound from the g14 to g16?
@@joshuakosloski6873 just different EQ is what it sounds like, plus the difference in size of the chassis of each laptop will of course produce different tonal characteristics. But no, both have an awesome amount of bass for a laptop, it’s hard to say that one has a noticeable amount more than the other.
These things are sexy.
I would have absolutely picked up a Zephyris G16 4090 by now if my country actually priced these the same as what you guys get in North America.
Here it's approximately 5800$ 💀
@@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams that is insane pricing. Like who even is gonna buy that??
Was planning on getting g16 with ryzen ai 9, 4060 variant but it is 700+ usd more compared to ryzen 7 8845hs 4060 g14 which is wasay too much n out of my budget so imma getting g14 at the end of this month
Yeah I don't blame you!
I definitely like this video as far as the in depth review on the g14 and g16, but i have to say where you lost me is with the battery life of the g14 2024. At best in silent mode only playing a UA-cam video [DGPU DISABLED], I’m using 15w and the laptop at best gives about 5-6hrs and nowhere near the 9-10hr mark.
If you’re open to having a discussion about this specific stance on the battery situation on the g14 I’m available to have this discussion at a platform of your choosing.
Currently as it stands, there has been no way possible to get this g14 laptop to last anything past 6hrs unfortunately and to leave the laptop just on without any activity so it can get 7hrs at best just makes Zero sense.
@@AJ-FL that’s super weird! I think I even have screenshots where I had it at -6W or so on the g14 while browsing on Edge! I know others are hitting that mark too. I’m thinking… which AMD drivers are you on? Maybe try bouncing between the Asus-provided ones and the latest from AMD and see if it makes a difference. Disable all startup tasks. Disable all unnecessary background services. Use G-Helper and use it to stop all Asus services. If it’s still around -15W then there’s another issue, maybe a program, driver, or Windows bug that is sipping your power.
@@JoshCravesTech ive tried all the above youve mentioned including ghelper and have also tried running laptop with factory drivers and settings but to no avail, i must also mention ive also gone as far as exchanging the laptop to see if it was a hardware defect, but still the same result persist
id also like to point out ive used both the asus drivers and also the latest amd drivers 24.5.1 and 24.6.1 but still the same result exist.
im more than willing have a meeting about this via any platform, (most people tend to use discord) to explain my findings in further detail if it helps
@@AJ-FL If you exchanged it and even the second unit also was getting high discharge then it would have to be something on the software side and not hardware. Did you test it on a clean windows install or after you had already installed several programs? My hunch is that maybe something that was installed is sipping away at your power. My Discord is modernjosh (or TheModernJosh, I'm not sure which username it uses anymore lol) if you want to share screenshots and stuff.
Hey Josh, I have a question for you, I just cannot figure out what is going on. I have a 4090 G16 and whenever I use the Optimized display setting and Nvidia GPU only mode in Nvidia, I get a ton of weird input and screen lag. Especially when I am scrolling. I have noticed that setting to Optimus mode with Optimized is fine and same with just choosing Ultimate mode. Am I missing something? Do your laptops act the same? Cheers.
@@andreibelittchenko5956 never experienced that. Try DDU to uninstall your Nvidia drivers and install a different version (clean install)
did they fix the 3rd fan then? i bought a g14 4070 model and that 3rd fans slightly higher frequency tone made me return it. thats how i ended up with the 4080 g14 2023 model as it was the same price at the time (i now swapped that for a 4090 model muwaha) but yeah that 3rd fan for me would continue to spin for 10 minutes after the other 2 main fans had turned off
Yeah that was fixed! But I don't blame you for getting the G14 4090. It's such a beast. Still loving mine
Any idea when will be the g14 rtx 4050 version be available ?
how come our g14's with 175w bios get an time spy Graphics Score 21 482 beating the 16" razer and legion pro 4090's @ 175w nah thats mad - arguably they'd sustain it better but still lol
great comparison btw mate nicely done
(edit - realised probably stock no overclock)
Your edit is correct, there was an overclock! But yeah it's insane to see it match those big boys
I thought you returned the g16
@@Drivenby filmed all of this a couple months ago! 2023 G14 is still my daily driver
Does g16 just have a much bigger battery than g14 for Intel cpu to match amd cpu battery life? I would think amd still is more efficient by watt
@@NinjaKirikoJedi AMD still comes out ahead slightly, but yes the G16 has a 90Whr battery vs 73 Whr on the G14. But the Core Ultra chip is almost just as efficient as the 7940HS which is just incredible to see from Intel
Incredible how 2023 g14 beats 2024 g16 in games... 4090 in a smaller laptop with better perf.. crazy!
@@adriatics.3357 it is actually insane to see! I agree
Nice review. Subbed
@@JKgaming1 thank you! 😊
I'm annoyed there are no 48/64GB (or more) options. Not only in G14/G16 but even in their so-called creator's ProArt series.
It's an extremely weird move that makes no sense to me.
When do you think we should expect G16 with 50xx Nvidia's?
@@RomixV I’d guess March 2025 at the earliest
Still struggling to decide between g16 or g14 2024 4070 both with 32gb ram, dont know which is better, help would be appreciated
@@mobeen369 depends, do you want 14” or 16”? That’s really the only major difference if both have the same specs
appreciate that tyy, it really does simplify it when u put it like that, i think i was overcomplicating it loll
wait.... quick question? on the 2024 g16 are you not able to disable turbo mode to lower the temps?
@@animenerd8633 so since Intel has a much lower base clock (like 1.5 GHz or something), disabling boost makes it run at a crawl. In some games that don’t rely on CPU that might be fine but in others you might experience some serious hangups. For Intel Core Ultra it’s much better to just limit your CPU to like 12-15W instead if you’re trying to lower temps. And for the HX chips around 25-30W is pretty okay.
@@JoshCravesTech sweet, thanks man!
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Hi Josh i just bought myself the 2024 zephyrus g14 with the 4070 gpu its currently on sale at best buy and i set everything up downloaded all the drivers and updated everything I started gaming and the speakers are at 80% and they sound really low, everyone on UA-cam is saying how good these speakers are but for me they sound really low is there anything i should do in the settings to fix this?
@@edwincuret2289 open Dolby Access and configure the sound settings to your desired level. There are a ton of options in there including a custom EQ option
@@JoshCravesTech ok I will give it a try thanks
I have the 2024 i9 4090 g16 and i keep having the light for the strip light keeps crashing and disappearing from armory crate when i try to use the sonic effect to work with audio anyone have this issue i dont see the sonic option in ghelp
@@ReviewThisTestThat that’s weird! Might be a good idea to start a discussion on the G-Helper GitHub page
Also anyone have a way to get a proper recover iso for this the web site for these is very confusing.
@@JoshCravesTech i did a cloud restore from bio works perfectly now.
@@ReviewThisTestThat Great to hear!!
I got the 4070 g16 . I really wanted 32gb of ram but wasn’t willing to pay the up charge in the us .
I can 100% understand that
What about the Zephyrus duo 16 2023 model ?
@@Parky-pm2sg the Duo is also good, it’s just in a different class of laptop. It’s quite a bit thicker and heavier than these. I think it only comes with a Ryzen HX CPU as well and those have some of the worst battery life of all laptops out there, lol 😂
But performance is out of this world on that thing!
Given the choice between these or the new px13, it's either the 4090 G14 or the px13.
G16 speakers sound so much better than G14 (2024) 😮
Should I buy MacBook Air m2 256gb or Asus zephrus g14 ?
The single most important question is - do you plan on gaming on it? G14 will dominate in games and is stronger in performance overall. Macbook Air for absolute silent fans (does that one even have fans? lol) and battery life.
If you're going for 4080 i think it's better to get last year's m16. Unless you want something lighter and an OLED
The m16 doesn't have a good battery life though
@@Savi159 yeah last year’s M16 is still a dope laptop! I think going for the G16 is for those who just want a little more luxury. Speakers, battery, thinness, OLED, aluminum.
@mcslender2965 you could solve that with a few tweaks
@JoshCravesTech yep but for performence m16 is a beast. I went for the 2023 g16 though cause i didn't have 4080 money
Some other issues with this 14' gaming model:
1. No on talks about the lack of a 2nd SSD slot (who wants to be dependent on external storage all the time and hassle with plugging\unplugging and carry an external storage solution everywhere just to be able to add more storage to a gaming laptop instead of it being internal). For gaming laptops this is a big deal as gaming libraries like Steam keep growing all the time, sometimes 20-100GB per game update. If you have many games, anything less than a 4TB/8TB dedicated SSD (minimum for gaming) is out of the question, sure, you can buy one SSD with those capacities but that's very limiting if you start adding many games. Over time, on gaming laptops games pile up and you run out of space.
2. The lack of a 4080/4090 option is an issue (mainly because of the lack of the 12/16GB memory they offer, but performance also for those who prefer): Although the 4070 capped to 100W, it only comes with a 8GB GDDR6 which isn't enough, in 2024 8GB GPU memory is certainly not enough, all the more so if you're playing 2024 AAA games. What about future gaming?? it will not last that long for most gamers, even shorter for heavy AAA gamers. So both in short and long term 4070 with only 8GB isn't enough, as gaming become more demanding, both in terms of storage space and the amount of memory needed. If you're not a heavy gamer then 4050/4060 will be enough, but that's an entry level gaming laptop.
3. As others have mentioned before, the lack of RAM upgradability. Sure, you can do with a 32GB option, but having a 64GB option would be better.
Also, in case there's an issue with the memory, you'll be forced to replace the motherboard since it's soldered, and you better hope this happens while the laptop is under warranty, otherwise... you better have deep pockets or your wallet will be screaming in pain.
I have the G14 4090 (2023) version and I think it's the best choice out of the 3.
Still rocking mine as well! The bright screen, how light and small it is, but with that insane performance - it's just too good. I love it.
@@JoshCravesTech even better as I purchased it brand new in April for 2299. It was a steal of a deal. You actually helped me with my decision with your reviews. Since then I was a follower and the G-helper is the best!
@@CommonTrip 2299 is absolutely insane, I'm jealous!! That's incredible. And thanks for following the channel!
Amazing video!
@@calvinn866 thank you!
For speaker tests, it would be nice to have a control like a Macbook.
@@imnotdavidxnsx true, I only have my wife’s 2020 MacBook Pro 13”, so not the best comparison although I suppose not a bad one either
@@JoshCravesTech just something the audience knows sounds good so they can hear a relative difference despite potential issues like microphone quality.
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