micro four thirds in 2024 | Leica D-Lux 8 first impressions
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Sharing some thoughts on the Leica D-Lux 8 after using it for a few days as my every day carry camera.
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M43 is more than adequate for most people and in most situations. It's being handicapped by people's predisposed attitudes. I have APSC, full frame, 35mm and medium format film cameras by Ricoh, Pentax, and Nikon. In most situations, I still use my Olympus M43 system. And not even their top-of-the-line system. I mostly use the EM5 Mark iii, it's a wonderful camera for street photography.
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
Just goes to show that so many photographers place too much emphasis on what gear they own and that gear has to be the "best" gear. "All my gear needs to be full-frame or digital medium format" no, it absolutely does not. You do not need the latest and greatest thing. Until you start printing billboard on the size of the highway sizes, basically no one will tell the difference between a micro 3/4 and full-frame camera, and you proved as much in this video. All cameras are so good now a days and most people's primary rig could probably be replaced with a small camera like this and there will be little compromise in doing so
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
Ned Flanders is among the friendliest and most compassionate Camera tester of the Springfield community.
New hairstyle, new look, looking great... All the D-Lux and a new video, you shouldn't have. Great observations on the camera, uploading pics to socials and looking good!
Yea, the hair!
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
The olympus pen line you would LOVE! I have come full circle with cameras and Olympus 4/3 is magic
I had the lx100ii. It was a great little camera, and a great lens. The focus stacking feature works really well. In the end I sold it to fund a growing 4x5 habit. The only thing I thing that I didn't like was the EVF, it was just a bit too small. It's the camera I learned manual exposure on, and the ergonomics are really nice.
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
@@photographer8486 if you want small at low light I think a f/1.8 50mm is probably sensible. Honestly I'd suggest micro four thirds. Something like the om5. Low light performance is still good enough, especially if you are starting out, want light kit for carrying on a commute.
I really liked your review. It was from the perspective of a real photographer. With current technology as advanced as it is, I really didn’t need all of the specs. I’m a m11, q3, and Hassy X2D user. But I frequently just shoot with my iPhone. I might consider getting this camera. Well done 👍🏻
Simple and yet a great video that really can give us a idea of what we will get with this camera. Unfortunately, nowadays vloggers are much more focused to what a new camera could or should have been, instead of what it is. The thing is, if it deliveries good stuff, than it's a good piece, why full fill a complete video with a list of what other cameras have, always and persistently on a continous analogy between cameras.
It's a bless to listen the truth that, 60mpx full frame is very good but that we can be very happy with 17mpx and m43, like saying that what is good, is good, and it doesn't became bad just because its not excellent.
And thanks to not even mention the so limited idea that it's just a 6 years old Panasonic.
Really enjoyed this simple and clever approach.
Beautiful images and, we can really see the excelent results of that lens, sensor and color processing
Cheers
I see all the UA-camrs are afraid to put out a detailed review since it’s nothing but an updated (kind of) Panasonic LX100ii. I understand it’s hard to push a yesterday tech with future pricing from Leica. Only Leica can do it and people will fall for it thanks to all the UA-camrs… Also it is very hard to see what the picture is taken with when viewed in small Instagram screen. It is very easy to lead your viewers that way. ..
There’s plenty of reviews out there. Saying it’s “nothing but” then using the word updated contradicts itself. It has the same sensor and lens combo but has completely different internals. It also doesn’t feel the same as that camera. These things matter. Doesn’t mean it’s worth the price or not worth the price but it matters some. There are LOTS of cameras that use the same sensor across different bodies. Sony has done it for years.
@@topherick I think the most important update would be the af, but this one doesn’t have it. Back in the days I use to talk about the importance of ibis and people reaction were real photographers don’t need it, but now it’s one of the main things talked about. I used to complain about the Fujifilm X100 system’s lens wide open image quality issue and the users treated me like I didn’t know what I was talking about. By the way I used to use the system up until the third version and gave up. Now the lens is updated. Just like that this camera should have phase detection af! They missed it because Panasonic didn’t update the camera. This tell me that Leica is using Panasonic’s tech for all the electronic parts of the camera (which is the whole thing minus the os). The only thing they could do is change the os and button layout since Panasonic didn’t make a updated LX100iii
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 28-75 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
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I had a Leica Q2 until a couple of weeks ago. Just got myself a used LUMIX G5 (MFT) and love it. The D-Lux 8 looks like a copy (especially the flash). I wouldn’t be surprised, the G5 is a great little gem with exceptionally good IQ.
It's (along with the dlux 7), is an lx100ii in a slightly different case, and I think Leica's own software.
Do you mean Lumix GM5? Also, the Leica flash is the same one that came with the GM5.
Oh man so jealous you got to try it out!
I’d hope that Leica would make a mft camera body some day. There is a lot of Leica badged mft lenses already, like my favourite Leica 15/1.7. An mft camera in Leica Q-style would be nice. Without a physical lens attached to it, it wouldn’t be that expensive to produce either. I would buy one!
Above all else, the one thing I would love to see in one of these compact cameras is a different aspect ratio. A Q or Fuji X camera with a native 4x5 aspect ratio would be an absolute must buy for me.
Great point of view when it comes to knowing what the end result is going to be, in this case, the majority of photos will end up in social media, and a m43 camera is more than capable. I have been using my Lumix gx85, and it is a great camera and it works great for street photography.
I've been using m43 in a professional capacity for 10 or so years now. The latest m43 cameras are so good I don't need either APS-C or FF. All the latter stuff was marketing nonsense anyway. A real pro can shoot and get paid using any format, even 110 or 126/7 (film). My original Canon DSLR back in the late 1990's was only 3.1mp. But images were published and deadlines reached. We really have too many tools at our disposal and the only thing really holding us back isn't the gear, but simply ourselves.
I GOT IT RIGHT ON INSTA!
What made you think it was the D-lux?
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
@@photographer8486 you are seeking a category of camera which was almost made extinct by the advent of the smart phone. The best options are IMHO:
- iPhone with an app like Blackmagic or Filmic pro which gives you manual control over your phone
- Fujifilm X100VI but downside is fixed lens but otherwise very versatile
- LUMIX S9 with a yet to be released 18-45mm zoom
- Fujifilm XE4 or XE3 with a lens of your choice
- A7C Mark I or II which could make sense as you may have Sony lens or two.
- Nikon ZF with a pancake 40mm.
- Ricoh GRIII.
- GX9 second hand with a 20mm pancake or 15mm or 25mm, but most of the lenses are relatively small.
- Olympus OM5 with a 17mm or 25mm.
- Sony A6700 with a lens of your choice.
Each option has pros and cons.
Good luck!
@@Democratiser Actually, it was a timing thing...Matt got his about the same time as a few other reviewers got theirs...so it was just a guess really.
@@francochamps3855 Nice intuition. 👍
Wonderfully warm-hearted and thoroughly informative "love-declaration" video - from a true "M-brother" - thank you so much - this was very, very inspiring indeed!
Feel better soon.
A few years back I was shooting w. a Panasonic Lumix LX100 which, w. its' Leica lens had a whopping max. aperture of 1,4. You could shoot in almost total darkness pics that looked like daylight. However I sold it in favour of a Fujifilm X-E2 camera. The major con I had was dirt on the lens due to the zoom sucking in dust (Typically). The good thing was that its's price was only a fraction of what the almost if not identical camera D Lux was commanding on the market. At some later time I purchased a Olympus PEN F which I started to use again just recently. Those micro 4/3 cameras definitely are no inferior to my bigger FF cameras. In fact you can use vintage man. lenses and double focal length without the large and heavy masses you would have to get along when shooting w. equivalent FF lenses. And like you said, It's hard to tell the difference when looking at photos.
I love my Leica D Lux 6 with the swivel viewfinder. I was disappointed that was no longer available on this new camera nor if it had a higher mp number. But does look good.
Leica is making some really good, easy to use cohesive cameras.
In good light MFT rocks. The size of the cameras and lenses are a real bonus. However get into lower light and you quickly begin to see its Achilles heal. Long time Olympus shooter who switched over to FF Nikon but still also shoot my Pen F.
Just curious, is this still true on newer flagship bodies like OM-1 Mark II?
@@anta40 Yes and no. It's really situation dependent. If you need a single exposure and can't rely on the stabilization, then yes. However, if you can make use of the stabilization, or use handheld hi-res, the gap closes. I'll often use HHR on landscapes handheld at ISO 800+ and the images come out very clean.
Get a fast prime and low light solved. Lenses go as fast as F0.95. If that's not fast enough for the low light you're shooting in (especially with newer ISO performance), you might be shooting in a basement closet :)
You mean it's not as forgiving, and you need to use a tripod in low light...
Grain (noise) is your friend. Don’t be afraid of it in low light :)
I really wish this camera as well as Panasonic Lumix LX100III/IV... would have small fixed prime. Or there would be two versions of camera - one with zoom and other with prime for example Leica 15mm f1.7.
I thought the same about MFT till I tried it. Got a LUMIX G9 really cheap and love it!
Isn’t this just the 6 year old Panasonic LX100ii with a reskinned body and a new UI… or am I missing something?
Yeah it is. It is just restyled to aesthetically fit more with the Leica Q series.
@@Wildridefilmsit’s what we in England call ‘money for old rope’.
Just maybe, Panasonic will come out with an LX8.
The Leica D-Lux 8 has an updated processor, improved interface, new rear and top controls, improved viewfinder, faster card interface, USB-C socket and ... the Leica panache.
@@trix-4656I’ve seen on other channels that they are not planning to do so.
Thanks for sharing your opinions on the camera. I use my phone as an everyday camera. What would you recommend for an actual everyday camera?
The Leica D-Lux 8 is a bit of a hard sell at $1600. While I don't necessarily mind the micro four thirds sensor, 17 megapixels, or the variable aperture zoom lens, there are a couple of features I think could have really improved this camera.
First, a leaf shutter would have been a great addition. Since the lens isn't removable, a leaf shutter would provide more flexibility when using a flash.
Second, in-body stabilization is a feature that this camera could have benefited from massively. It's basically the standard nowadays. With a 17 megapixel micro four thirds sensor, noise can easily creep in when the ISO starts to go up because you have to maintain a certain shutter speed. In-body image stabilization would allow for shooting handheld at slower shutter speeds, keeping the ISO relatively low and avoiding noise.
It does have a leaf shutter.
Matt, looking forward to your in-depth review. Totally agree with your assessment of m4/3. I have medium format, full-frame, and just got the OMD OM1. Honestly, it is more than enough. Small, light, good, if not great glass, and images that really stand up to processing and can print at 11x14. Plus, if noise is ever an issue, Topaz AI or other software can easily address it. I have the DLux 8 on order. Just have to decide what I will be selling to pay for it and a trip.
Interesting comments. I have a Sony that I only use for low light as its menu is something only a stressed out engineer could love. What I do use for everyday is an Olympus Pen-P3 micro 4/3. It’s small, easy to use and the colors are outstanding. When I show my work no one ask about how many megapixels it has or how old it is. I have been waiting for a new Pen which will probably never happen so the Leica with their updated useable menu and the images I have seen by various reviewers looks real good to me.
It's just a Panasonic LX100 rebadged into a Leica. The updated LX100 will be launch in a few months time for a third of the price, I suspect.
Let's hope you're right
There are reports that Leica have said there won't be an equivalent Panasonic.
@@DavidMBanes That's what they are hoping, but I am certainly hoping for a Panasonic LX100ii since I cannot afford a Leica.
Panasonic has zero reason to release this, it's the same camera as the LX100 II. There won't be a Panasonic version, there already was 6 years ago.,
@@michaelbell75 On the contrary, they have every reason to do so. The Leica will sell in only very limited volumes, so in order to amortize the R&D, tooling and capital expenditure, they need to introduce the LX100 replacement, at a lower price to the Leica and targeted at a different consumer segment, just like the previous generation of cameras.
Well I had the D-lux 7, which was my entry into Leica systems, ... got Q very shortly after then a M4 and for real I so much loved the images I was getting et I found it very cute too. and honestly M4/3 is a whole different style of photographs you just don't use it for when you need the capabilities of fullframe.
looks great - reminds me a little of the Lumix LX 100. I think this could get a following - as you say among street photographers and the casual shooters
If you are going to state equivalence for focal length then you need to do the same for the aperture. The lens is a 24-75mm F3.4-5.6 (full-frame eqv.).
A far better MFT deal than this fixed-lens model is the Panasonic GX9. You get a tilting EVF, tilt screen, and 5-axis IBIS... not to mention a lens mount. Add the Olympus M.Zuiko 45/1.8 and Panasonic Lumix G 14/2.5 II ASPH for a total price (second-hand) of €935. Compared to €1400 for a used D-Lux 7.
I've an EM1 MkII and been printing ,exhibiting and selling prints in A3+. a2 wouldn't be an issue either, I just can't pint in that size. M4/3 is very underrated.
I do like the look of the Leica.
Haha. I have made beautiful 20"x30" prints from my Panasonic GX85, with its 16mp micro 4/3 sensor.
It's interesting, thanks a lot! It would be great to see some videos about first impressions, and about the experience of working with this micro four-thirds camera. The opinion of a person working with full frame cameras is especially interesting.
OMG! I had the same fate as yours! My first recording of the review got corrupted and the version i posted was a re-record after i returned the camera to Leica. I had to loan it for a day again after 2 weeks to record the 2nd version of the same review lol
Do you know if this is really a Lumix camera with the Leica re-brand?
all the d-lux cameras have had a lumix counterpart... the lens is leica, and a bunch of the body/sensor is maybe *more lumix than leica. the lens is top notch
That screw shutter, does a cable release work in that or is it for just a soft touch?
MFT is an excellent option for me as an enthusiast. I still have a Canon 5DIII but MFT provides for a much more portable system. Quintessential lenses for me include the LUMIX 15mm f1.7, 14-140mm, Leica 25mm f1.4, and Olympus 75mm and 45mm f1.8. These lenses are extremely light and small compared with FF counterparts.
The abundance of used lenses can also present huge bargains. Like many lumix users I am hoping for an updated GX9 to be released sometime.
Hmmm. Get a LUMIX GM5 and a DG Leica 15/1.7. Tiny, awesome, flexible and less money despite the premium GM’s carry these days.
Just a correction tho, when you choose the aspect ratio on this camera. You do not retain the full sensor readout. Whatever ratio you choose, you are stuck with the ration pixel layout of the camera (its not a digital crop).
Reason for this is because when you use this camera, you are never 100% using the full sensor to begin with; very similar to the D-LUX7 and DMC-LX100II since it uses the same lens and sensor.
Reason for this is because the image circle of the lens does not cover the whole sensor and Panasonic smartly developed this in a way, whatever aspect ratio you use, you will capture a total of 17mp from the 20mp MFT sensor.
You got it right. This youseller is talking about a m4/3 and it is not even m4/3 really.
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
I had the LX3, then LX5 and LX7. Great cameras. I did not buy the LX100 because thousands complained aboit the dust in the sensor, and was kind of $200 to send for cleaning. And the word was for LX100 II is solved the problem . For about three years I took lovely photos, but the issue with the dust on sensor and the unreliable rocker switch for zoom made it a paperweight only. The Leica fixed it? Not sure, and if they did not, then I would hold my money to buy it…
Its a cool looking camera from Leica with somewhat affordable price. I think enthusiasts might like it. If it would have a flip up screen it would be great little cameral for street photography.
My first digicam was 4 MP and I put it on 2. With this you can enlarge 24x30cm. How often do you need that?
After this I mostly shoot 4-6 MP, sometimes 8. JPEG SOOC. Since 3,5 years I can do RAW too, but I only use it in important cases.
I like Nikons 'JPEG basic'. Shoot 6 MP instead of 24 and have files below 1 MB.
I've used the Lumix LX100 for a few years & it's still amazing. Basically the DLux 8 is the best upgrade, though missing the built-in filters & don't like the lens cap on this one...
I like the simplicity of the buttons on the back of the camera. I have the original Lumix LX100 and find that I accidentally hit buttons and change settings with the palm of my hand. Also agree with Tristan below that the EVF isn't that great, but overall I like it for a camera I can be inconspicuous with on the street. The D-Lux could be an option if I ever want a newer camera that size, since it looks like Lumix discontinued it. Or, like you, just use my Leica M camera.
i'll wait for the panasonic version at a half price
There already is a Panasonic version, its the 6 year old LX100 II
There won’t be one, they gave this line to Leica to keep it luxury priced
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
You'll be waiting, there isnt going to be a Lumix version unfortunately even though I wish there would be.
8:00 asking people to make a blind guess on their 6" phone screen based off a IG story is like putting a blindfold and ear muffs on someone as a passenger and see if they can tell the difference between a Fiat and a Ferrari in traffic. At the end of the day people would make wrong guesses between a ARRI 65 and iPhone footage in many random scenarios.
I had the original LX100 and loved that camera. It just had one big issue that made me sell it and it was unrealiable AF. It would confirm focus in a moment where it was completely out of focus. It happened 10% of the times but made me crazy.
Any thoughts on the tri fold lens cover thingy? I mean it looks incredibly fragile to me but I've never held it.
It’s super strong, I used it on the D-Lux7 for 3 years.
yeah - very nice Panasonic camera ! I had the chance to test it for half an hour and the only real problem that I got with it (besids the price) was the viewfinder ... still looking to a peephole
Matt, great review. If Leica would have uploaded to a back lite sensor the image quality would be better , over all.
Oh man, clogged ears are so annoying. When I lived in the US, I used a kit sold at Walgreens. It’s basically a pump to irrigate the wax. Hope you get that sorted soon.
4 things holding me back from this camera; no weather seal, limited cropped senor, no tilty screen, no high res-shot (a m43 solution for small senor)
Oh Matt, I had the ear thing a few months ago. It's super uncomfortable. I am sure you have already been told this but olive oil - lay on your side, put a tiny amount in your ear and leave it for five minutes. Do this three or four times a day and it will eventually dissolve the wax. Multiple medical professionals have told me that olive oil is as good if not better than the over the counter treatments.
Just for perspective 6mp was generally considered enough to replace most 35mm film. I have a 20x30 of my kids I shot with 4.6mp SD14 not look like it needs more resolution. So 17 in this little cutie is more than enough for Socials and Prints. Honestly the only thing this little P&S is missing is a flipping screen the would swing under like my Z50 does and then you can bring home the killer selfies, because phone selfie cameras are mostly crap. Yeah that is my Z50's super power. Also it include that little flash to light up your backlit shots, so handy.
Just a rebadged Panasonic LX100 ii introduced in 2018. Same sensor, same controls, etc. And at a MUCH lower price.
a used LX100 ii costs $1000 USD used today. I'd rather pay the difference to get a new one.
As a street photographer, my main concern is how fast the camera turns on and how fast it auto focuses? Not to mention if it’s accurate auto focus. Otherwise it’s just another point and shoot camera that doesn’t really compete against the big boys for street photography.
Compact, performant cameras for people accustomed to big bodies, fast lenses, and big sensors is such a hard problem. All options have compromises, but Leica/Panasonic really took a unique path with this line.
I remember looking for a solution like 6 years ago. I had a Pentax MX-2, X100S, and also OM-D EM10 w/ 20mm f/1.7. None were perfect. I tried the Z fc last year with 26mm and kit zoom. As a fling it was fine but fell short. 😢
Curious about the D-LUX3 and possible future Panasonic cousin.
I love my lumix lx100 gen1, even though it is just 12mp, but then I have an interest in macro photographer, so I am not waiting for the new GX9 or something with 10bit 422 and flash sync ability and lightweight.
I am glad to see they are not charging much more than the X100VI, but it’s possible to get a full frame interchangeable compact body camera for that kind of money. (S9 or Sigma FP) Go full frame, get some prime lenses.
What size print can be made from a 17mp sensor?
Would have liked to see a raw comparison to the Iphone or any high spec phone for that matter.
I have a D-Lux that I bought almost 10 years ago, and as much as I know it has the same lens and sensor, and I love it. It’s small, compact and discreet, the images are more than enough, and offers lots of creative possibilities. The limit is myself as a photographer. Not being a pro, this could perfectly be my only cammera, particularly for street photography. And it’s so, so fun to use!
Instagram stories is like a 1mp image. Print it 70x50cm and then we can talk about quality. If I had only instagram then a phone would be more than enough. But I print alit and APS-C is the smallest sensor I'd go for. Also I like the bokeh and colours more on vintage lenses adapted to digital.
This seems that this is all that there will be as Leica's big price hike on the model implies Panasonic have walked away. Panasonic have just released a new Z80D super zoom at a very reasonable price so I would imagine Leica are not worried about competition here.
I wonder how much it costs more than my Panasonic Lumix LX100 II. It is my daily carry and I like it. But to pay more for the Leica dot, not I.
I never knew Leica is into M43 system. And not just Panasonic and OM Systems. This should help the format going forward. Thanks for short review. I got what I wanted.
Leica D-Lux 7 was a Pansonic Lumix DC-LX100 II reskin costing $200 more. Pansonic Lumix DC-LX100 Ill should be out soon.
Thanks for sharing!
I wanted to learn photography. So I got a used Sony A7s2. Then lens I got with it was damaged. I thought buying a zoom lens would help me practice diversely with different focal lengths. Bought the Tamron 24-70 f2.8. The thing is I don't keep my camera with me. I should have got a fixed focal length lens (which would have also been smaller) and a smaller camera so that I can keep this handy with me always. I need to practice more and more. The setup I have currently I just don't carry with me.
Keeping in mind I want to click pictures in low light during evening and night after office, please share some suggestions for a body and lens to have with me everyday.
What I haven't heard addressed is whether the Leica D-Lux 8 is weather and dust-sealed. The Panasonic LX100ii had a huge problem with dust on the sensor and no way to clean it.
I believe it's the same...
Wish they made a digital minilux. No lcd no menus just small with a sharp 35mm lens and a ovf with frame lines. Just like a point and shoot camera should be.
is the camera out in the US? I still see a pre-order only option on B&H
I pre-ordered it at B&H a month ago and still no sign...
Having a m240, q2 and a dlux109, i often wonder what the point is having the others when my dlux can handle 80% of myphotog needs lol
Looks like an upgraded Lumix LX100, wouldn't be shocked if it was Panasonic that made this camera lol
I realize you didn't intend to compare the Medium format sensor to the M4/3 sensor in terms of output. I mean if I were shooting for a billboard or an art piece I would take the Medium sensor everyday. For online presentation ya I get it the quality seems superb for that avenue...
Really hoping for an lx100 iii, after having shot with the original for the past decade.
this is going to be a great introduction to Leica to a lot of people
It's a made in China Panasonic.
Is the design an H. R. Giger collab?
Facehugging ovipositors are an optional extra. 😉
It looks leica Panasonic DC- LX100M2
It is.. Same camera.
I’m fine with 17mp if the camera has other things going for it. But I also don’t love the form factor. It’s small, but the lens still protrudes a couple inches out while closed. So it doesn’t look very pocketable. I also don’t love the lens cover mechanism. Seems a bit fragile to me. And the ergonomics. I think a point and shoot should be one hand operable. The way a Ricoh is. Perhaps this camera can be operated with one hand, but the lack of grip worries me.
I do agree with your Pepsi challenge though. Most people don’t need more than specs like this.
So agreed, lens cover is weird. Protruding lens is one of the reasons I sold my Fuji X100, it's just not a pocketable camera
@@adtfor yeah. With a point and shoot the form factor is everything. I love my Fuji but 95% of the time I leave it home and grab the Ricoh. Purely based on size.
nice camera
Formatted the SD card with the recording…. Lol
X100VI has a bigger sensor than Leica ?
this camera always shoots in a crop with 1:1 using the full height and 16:9 using the full width but 4:3 and 3:2 both crop in
Well, Mpx is a not topic and most people don’t get its right. If you don’t print very large and watch your photos on screens most of the time, 17 Mpx is massive. Keep in mind that the resolution of a 4k screen is “only” 8,3 Mpx.
It's too bad they couldn't have jammed an APS-C sensor in there. That would have made it compelling, even if there was some redesign involved.
nice lx100 II with leica case at double price
Everyone keeps ragging on this camera for using an old sensor and that its a rebadged LX100ii. But most modern sensors are good enough for most people's needs. Also last I've seen a sued LX100ii goes for close or over $1000 USD. A Ricoh GRIII is from 2019 is still being sold today (if you can find one) with no new model in sight and the X100VI is soldout everywhere. There are demands for large sensor compacts and Leica just gave us one even if its slightly old tech. At the end of the day this camera is available today and the price is reasonable considering the alternatives are overpriced used cameras or soldout,
The one thing I am disappointed about with the Leica M system is that Leica has totally neglected flashes. That tiny little flash is the #1 selling point for the D-lux for me anyway!! Too bad it's a Panasonic flash system and it won't work on an M! The tiny and perfectly automatic fill flashes are the main thing that I miss about Olympus and Panasonic cameras (after having sold them and purchased an M10).
People way overestimate their needs for megapixels/sensor size. Personally, I don't think the d-lux 8 is a great value, but it's not a bad camera. I'd probably opt for importing an olympus ep7 instead if I wanted something tiny, but I can see why people would get this camera.
My question is why only 17 MP?
The 80s mustache look that most cops Had back then. Holy crap!! 😅
Leica people are great entertainment for us folks who aren't brainwashed.
For all those people complaini g about rebranded old camera. Try it before you complain. As far as i see, a proper photographer can take great photos with it and having fun at the same time. Is'nt that great? Ok, it got "only" 17 mp. And nowdays the true professionals have understood that if you can use your equipment and take proper photos, you need about 20 mp. That is enough. Ok, this camera is only 17 mp, but it is actually goid enough. You can print the photos quite big and with quality. So, 17 mp is ok in my opinion. Furhermore, the optics seem good enough for a compact camera. I have for fun a Olympus PEN PM2 with a pro 8-25 lens. The combo is for fun. It has only 16 mp, but a great super wide to normal lens. The lens is too big for the camera, but that is the thing. Its a fun combo, and people smile when i take photos. And so do I.
The fun factor is much more important than the pixel peeping over tech factor. The D-Lux 8 is fun too. Its very fun, and good enough and I woukd love to buy one to bring with me every day. I'm happy. Thank you Leica, you are making smiles in my eyes. I'll buy one soon, despite there was a D-lux7 and a LX100ii some years ago. ❤
saw the lens pop out and was immediately disappointed lol
I like the Q-like ergo…but 17MP is gonna tank this camera. That isn’t probably fair, but yeah.
Wondering how it compares to the Fujifilm X100iv? IQ, AF etc...
This isn’t even worth a battle. Fuji x100vi crushes it
@@essensse You’re sure…? I’ve owned the X100F X100V (next to the X-T1,2,3, X-H1, XPro3 & GFX 50R) and I’m not interested in any current Fujifilm camera anymore and would rather pick this over the IV as a companion to my M11.
Soon thanks to AI post-processing, cameras like this will be even better. Already with Denoise you can eak out better low -light images. For those that want a very discreet, swiss army knife of a camera, its hard to beat the LX100 / d-lux cameras as an all-in-one. I prefer APS-C with primes and/or wide focal range telephoto
GO see an ent and check your hearing. 😊
Yes, please! Immediately!
Nice camera, but I’d rather buy a LUMIX GX85 for a fraction of the price and it still retains a filmic look to it. Plus, I can change the lenses at my leisure.
Dear Leica, make this with Panasonic's 20mm f1.7 lens and - nah, I'll just keep my (used) Q.