Continued land movement in Rancho Palos Verdes creates stunning new stretch of shoreline
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Laurie Perez reports from Rancho Palos Verdes, where the continued land movement from a powerful landslide has created a stunning new stretch of shoreline, that could keep changing in coming months.
That area was sliding in the 1950s when I was a little kid. I don’t know why people believed they could build there.
Lived in Portugese Bend in the early 90s off PV South Drive right where the Trump Golf course is now. People are still building in that area.
Greedy self-serving narcissists...
If they can even find insurance companies to cover that area, the premiums would be astronomical. An abject waste of money. Go buy another mansion somewhere else & give that money to charities.
Money. They’re out of touch
Because real estate developers and city council members said it was cool to do so. Where I live, we had a drag strip/race park that was going thru a two year major upgrade. During those two relatively quiet years, city council approved the land right next to the park for sale and a developer and contractor rushed in and built over 30 homes right up against the edge of the race parks property. When the park reopened, the new residence freaked out over the noise and the _CITY COUNCIL_ tried to sue the park owners into bankruptcy. They obviously wanted to steal the parks land for development. The park owners were grandfathered in on having no property taxes and the property has been owned by the same family for generations, before there was property taxes in that area. Luckily, the courts sided with the park owners, and many of the residents are now suing the city council members.
Play stupid games.
Mother Nature doesn't need our interference!
Probably true. Humans should adjust to nature, or it's a losing battle.
Palos Verdes has been moving for decades. Honestly, I think they should just let nature take its course.
We should, but theres a lot of rich people living there so they want something done
Bigger Landslide last year at Torrey Pines. Great Video on UA-cam 😉
Reminds me of the King Canute story @@ciello___8307
Thanks to this decades long study conducted by wealthy Rancho Palo Verdes residents and builders, we now have solid evidence that building your house on a landslide is a bad idea. Thank you RVP for your contribution to the sciences of building technology and geology.
I remember the houses that were built on stilts when I was young. All of those houses fell in the ocean! I am 63 now looking at this silliness. It is the OCEAN!!🎉
No the stilt houses were built in the canyon. It was a craze for a few years. Some were featured in movies, many are still occupied. The biggest problem is brush fires under the house, and fireproofing the structures is expensive and this is why not many are built now. In the 1994 Northridge earthquake 13 stilt homes collapsed due to the floor joists not being tied to a solid foundation. The surviving stilt houses have all be retrofitted. The houses destroyed in the movies were models, the original houses still exist.
There's nothing they can do about it other than move... Nothing should have been built there in the first place... 💥
In the first place there were no slides because it was inactive. It became reactivated when they tried to extend Crenshaw blvd. well after the time people began living there. I don't know why this is generating so much anti-human chatter. Are you folks jealous of those with money? If they earned the money they should spend it. I hope for them, and those who bought in early and cheap, that they and their homes are safe.
That area was never meant to be built on in the first place. Ask any credited geologist, unlike the ones that were payed off to look the other way as construction began. In addition to that, second generation residents in the area knew full well, from the start, that the area was not stable.
We lived for years along the coast in a very nice beach community further south, and we moved after realizing just how much shifting occured in the area.
These residents dismissed safety concerns for exclusivity - it's never a good bet, and certainly isn't sustainable.
Their best bet is to get out of there - their window of time to do so is shrinking.
Never go against nature. Let it flow.
The landslide is part of a larger complex of ancient landslides on the south side of the Palos Verdes Peninsula. THOSE STRUCTURES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BUILT.
Just look at the shale’s bedding planes in Point Fermín… straight downhill at 30°. Ai yi yi
Give them a month and someone will build a house on the newest “oceanfront land”. 😝
Developer will be like "one of a kind, 10 million dollar views, unmatched in LA.", with some phony geologist's report in hand.
When the earth under you starts moving you dont start complaining to news outlets hoping someone has a solution. The problem is we dont know whats actually happening underground and how big it can be. You start packing up and moving out.
The audacity to think you can win over Mother Nature!
Time to move 🩵
Another Sunken City in the making.
I have a USGS report from the 1930s showing the ancient Portuguese Bend slide area. Homeowners and their architects should’ve known better.
They did - however, money prevailed.
Who the F didn’t think the land was moving deeper than 300’?! Palos Verdes has been a moving coastline and evolving land mass since before the US.
I imagine we hear about this spot so much due to all the houses built so close to the edge up on a hill that is being eroded. There are two other large land protrusions in California, but of the two areas one houses an air force base, and the other a national park, which is why we probably hear about any changes to land mass much less in those areas.
Concerns for these people trying to live in these unstable areas. Prayers. Losing your home is heartbreaking.
From 1989 study published in the journal Science Direct:
The Portuguese Bend landslide represents a reactivation of movement of the eastern part of a complex of prehistoric landslides occupying an area of approximately two square miles. This latest episode of movement began in 1956, presumably in response to placement of fill during a road construction project. The active slide subsequently was enlarged by sequential failure of adjoining blocks of ground, and by September 1969 about 54,500,000 metric tons of debris was slowly moving downslope in an area of approximately 104 ha. Movement has been continuous since recent failure began in 1956, although the velocity of the active slide decreased markedly after that year. Between 1962 and 1972 the velocity fluctuated only slightly about an average value of about 1 cm per day.
Movement is occurring along a distinct basal failure surface. The eastern part of the slide is underlain by bedrock and is bordered by bedrock with a general structure that limits further deep-seated propagation of failure to the east and northeast. In contrast, the western part of the slide is underlain and bordered by extensive ancient landslide deposits that are marginally stable. Further encroachment of the active slide westward and northwestward into these materials was viewed as a distinct possibility at the time the dissertation was prepared and has occurred since then.
Continued movement of the Portuguese Bend landslide since 1956 has been due to four main factors. A rise in the water table during the period 1957-1968 has been documented in the northwestern part of the moving mass and is attributable mainly to infiltration of surface runoff entering numerous open fissures that cut the surface of the slide. The toe of the active slide daylights along the shoreline and is subjected to storm-wave erosion, so that any natural build-up of resisting forces is prevented in this area. The redistribution of mass as the slide has moved along an undulatory failure surface has been responsible for local fluctuations in the driving and resisting forces. Finally, smoothing of irregularities in the failure surface by the moving slide mass must have decreased some of the forces resisting movement.
thank you
And everyone is surprised that this is happening today? "The land is sliding! The land is sliding! Woe is me! What shall I do?!" Developers and builders failed to do their homework.
And here we are in late 2024 and we see how quickly it has progressed..
These residents know very well the dangers of living in such an area. They don't have a valid legal argument in defence of what they are going through, so their best alternative is to get out of there with what belongings they can take. Getting moving assistance shall very soon be nearly impossible due to the extensive road damage.
Everyone should be worried even if they don't live in the landslide area. Insurance rates will go up for everyone even if they don't have a rider for land movement or they don't live in a known land movement area. Ask the folks in FL about their hurricane coverage rates..
How long until the sea claims California? I live on Cape Cod, the same erosion is happening here.
It's not California so much, Rancho Palos Verdes is a protrusion of land, though not nearly the peninsula that Cape Cod is, so the sea hits it from multiple angles and it drops off into a deeper ocean shelf more closely than other nearby land.
2036
The rate of change in Palos Verdes is significant. I use Tonerde my motorcycle almost everyday up there and the road would shift daily and new cracks appeared every week. Constant patching etc. Amazing to witness.
It's creating beaches and pushing the water further away.
@@erikh9991 It is eroding the land up from the shoreline. It IS creating "new" beach, from the land beyond.
Pressure and time. Amazing combo.
+ liquid
Must of been the same experts that said building there was a great idea
Breaking News ! The coastline has been changing for millennia.
We just happen to be here now.
Not many years ago, New Zealand had a Great portion uprise along the Shore.
Way more going on underneath the ground,get ready folk's,its gonna get bigger.sorry folk's, were praying for you.
Quite fascinating to visualize the magnitude from underneath conveying such a mass of earth and rolling it like a deep river.
12 inches a week is faster than calculated, which is quarter inch per year
That's Nature for ya!
two years of heavy rain
Can’t imagine the irony of a geologist building a house in Rancho Palos Verdes!! 😒
Time to get out before it starts to move about 12 inches a MINUTE!!!
Why did the city allow development in this area knowing the land was unstable in the 60's? I remember as a kid my parents looking to buy a home in Rancho Palos Verdes. We went to a number of open houses. Its a beautiful area. It's sad. I feel for these people.
Apparently god doesn't think these entitled rich people are entitled to such prime real estate.
There is a lot of wealth accumulated from abuse of power concentrated all along the west coast…specifically in the north west corner. God has a mighty and swift hand in
powerful retribution…every thing cycles ~ Turn Turn Turn ~ There is Season ✨🪶⚖️✨
The houses in PBC have been there since before 1952 slide. The main road from top to beach has always slid. The new coast line is so close to the oldest homes in PBC. The new movement still has not effected the club yet!!!! Lived there 60 to 83.
Any word on that SUV that went off the cliff in Palos Verdes last Friday evening? It would be nice to know some details...
Change is sooooooooo terrifying! Oh dear me, why does there have to be change?
Ur face is changing
Gotta blame developers for this. It’s always about money over safety concerns😡
It's about getting your friends and business associates elected to city council. Somehow the land becomes acceptable to build on. After 20 or so years of drought, we got Tropical Storm Hilary, some snow, and Pineapple Expreses. Enough to recharge our overused Colorado River source. Great news, for the most part. Until it hits that clay section at the bottom of the landslide...that's how the beach is made.
Keep building on the cliffs…super stable…
I think the part of California west of the San Andreas fault is actually part of the Pacific ocean geologically. The cliffs along the coast are very unstable and frequently crumble.
No Wonder i'm seeing a Flood of Homes for Sale in Palos Verdes
i've always heard from People that California will one day fall into the Ocean, maybe they meant Palos Verdes
That's why the moved marine land that's been happening for years
This world belongs to God that is all I can say amen 😊
The experts are confused? Maybe we should drop that word from our vocabulary, for everything.
im confused is the land moving towards the ocean or the other way
You can't slow down anything like this, and actually believe it can be controlled?
So, let's film at night for you to see the changes...
Sorry folks, you can’t stop this.
the guy that says it's worth it to me is crazy. why wealthy people want to live on an active land slide is beyond understanding.
You’ve never been there.
Thats a new point break
I wonder if swell finds its way over there
That all looks like collapsing beach break to me. What a waste.
OK, those properties are gone and there’s nothing you could do the stop that slide. I knew this was going to happen along time ago from studying geology, but it’s happening quicker than I thought it was
This is why the pipes along PV Drive South are above ground.
On a positive note the state is increasing its size and the new land is offsetting any water rise from the dreaded global warming
Woops. Forgot about that irrigation. Tropical Storm Hilary may have added a bunch of water as well.
Omg jujubee I love you
She’s everywhere! Lol
“Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”
so cool
Catastrophe in slow motion. Considering the longevity of the problem it seems hopeless to try to defy gravity. Drilling and pumping out water from the shift area can only buy so much time. If I lived in the area I would try to work out a deal with the state and insurance and get the heck out while still able to do so. My confidence in the roadway is shot too. Better to detour around on S. Western Ave/Palos Verdes Dr. N and reconnect at Hawthorne Blvd.
Just wait till after the seasonal rains dump 4 or 5 inches of rain on the area. The prices will crash to just over 2 million dollars.
The experts are "surprised" way too often.
but but but the POWER OF PRAYER! where are those folks?
SOME CLOWN MADE UP PRAYER
prayer is as practical as a screen door on a submarine
Theyll try building homes on that section next year. Idiots.
Makes me wonder if "Sunken City" is being affected.
Hello friends...I'm from the deep South. I enjoy learning interesting Earth science stuff. This is being called a "land slide" but it seems to me it is more like a "land rise". Can anyone explain or tell me what term I might google or youtube video I might watch that would explain what is happening and why? Thanks☆♡
Very perceptive. Land rises often result in land slides.
Maybe California is headed for a scene right out of the movie “2012”.
Developers are lining up to buy area and build new house on it 😄
Always knew California will slide into the sea.
More beach to hang out on. I aint complaining.
New beach I guess huh
You can’t stop Mother Nature!
You can’t slow the mud slide! 😂
When you ignore geology and history, you are doomed to make the same mistakes over and over again. We all know the land near the sea in CA is unstable, yet we keep building on it. Then when mother nature reclaims her power, everyone acts surprised. It's not a surprise. Quit building where you should not and then telling your buyers everything is safe. It's not. Buyers: do your own research from now on.
Lawn irrigation adds the equivalent of 60 inches of rainfall per year to the surface runoff that is largely responsible for the slide. City leaders calling for State Emergency to somehow halt a millenniums-long landslide, caused by surface water runoff, in a region with a Mediterranean climate and the greenest lawns in the state, by drilling wells in an attempt to remove said water, without ordering residents to halt irrigation of lawns, makes the $80 billion slow-speed rail line between farming communities make perfect sense.
The new Atlantis
Landslides, earthquakes, flash floods and fires! What could possibly go wrong?!😑
Newsom😂
@@davetuscano5939 Wait for the locusts !
Land mass adjusting weight to balance earth back to a safe balance the oceans can only dampen / balance so much
Well what about the pnw and the big one
How is it so stunning? When people are about to lose their lives.
Does anyone wonder if it was related to the earthquakes off the Washington Coast a few days ago?
So who owns the new land? New beach house?
So this is how the “ California will break off into the ocean and Arizona will be the new beachfront property” begins?
They better MOVE...W/❤
Ending is coming!
Mountain 🌄 will move 🏔️⛈️
Put a fence up. That’ll fix it
Fill dirt and gravel from years ago to make land for the subdivision.
hahaha....last guy interviewed says its worth it.
It's worth it (to be exclusive) - he has a very short window of time before changing his tune.
How many of those homeowners supported the Kalamath River dam removals that destroyed people’s lake front properties? Klamath reclamation was a good thing. Maybe this area should be returned to its natural state.
Its gona give way theirs no saving it
I thought California had no water
I thought all coastal areas were going to be underwater in 5 years?
That's what Al Gore said. He wouldn't lie, would he?
When the Antarctic ice melts, as it has done in the past, sea level will rise globally approximately 191 feet. Land will be sliding into the ocean creating new beach before, during and after whenever that takes place.
@@Orcinus1967 yeah, billions of years from now.
Total waste of time and resources trying to "stop the landslide."
What is that saying about a house built on sand ...
Blame it on trump
real title :
"Continued land movement in Rancho Palos Verdes creates stunning new stretch of wealthy, money-wasting, narcissistic, idiots"
I guess Donald Fagen can now return to Allendale.
earthquake by the end of the year?
If you feel the damage is worth it then don’t ask for help and money
and eating houses…it won’t be sand but stucco w/ house part beaches!
On Christ the solid Rock I stand. All other ground is sinking sand.
All they need is a Homeless Camp for the Wealthy.
Those houses will be gone eventually…,