From what I've heard, they've based THIS version of Gotham off of several city locations. So, Toronto could probably be one of them; I know New York and/or Chicago was
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere in the comments but as an American gun owner I wanted to give a little info from south of your border. In the subway when he shot those 3 guys, the first 2 were self defense and those 2 deserved what happened to them. In most of America if the joker stopped there it would have been self defense open and shut case. The third one after fleeing and being pursued and shot was definitely a straight up murder even by American legal standards.
@Elijah Baker I was responding to "Well who knows what’s real all we know is that the joker created Batman in this universe". Joker originally created Batman when he killed his parents.
@Elijah Baker You know, Tim burton did not create this world right? Joker's "origin" is pretty well known. They do change it for the movies sometimes though, and I get that.
Joker never had a set origin. He keeps changing his story. “Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If I had a past, I’d prefer it to be multiple choice”
@@dakotablount251 yes, most writers go with him falling into acid (which joker could be lying about) but even then we still don’t know who he was before that or his name
*This is exactly why he got the Oscar for best actor. Just a brilliant performance. Easily one of my favorite films of all time. And the score is just something else. It also won the Oscar for best score*
@Kevin PELLETIER everyone had it coming in this movie. Maybe not his mother because she had a medical condition so she didn’t know the truth… and maybe Martha Wayne.
Exactly. She doesn’t seem to understand. He was basically defending himself from being killed or at least get some permanent damage if they kept beating him. That’s clearly self defense, even though he might gotten in trouble for having an unlicensed gun
Ah ha another example of how one dimensional this movie is. Bullies on the train. No developmental reasons why these guys are bullies on the train, they just are. As a viewer, you should just get this and understand it, and then because of that people will feel bad for joker. This movie isn't as great as people make it out to be. Insists on itself, and the background batman stories. This is one of those movies people loved before seeing it, and then once they saw it, they couldn't go against their initial thoughts, and will defend their predetermined analysis forever.
@@LukeIsyourfasha That sounds so pretentious lol its a movie things are set up to save time. They cant give everyone backstories. Plus, a lot of bullies are privileged rich kids irl anyway they're using the stereotype. At least where I grew up. Also, if you don't like the movie what're you doing here?
@@d3l3tes00n I thought he was much more insane in this one than in many of his other portrayals. He was kind of pathetic in this one, the world just broke him. He lost his sanity. Moore's Joker, and by extension TDK Joker, which borrowed heavily from that version, didn't seem insane at all. Like it was all a put on for him, an elaborate joke. An excuse for him to do terrible, terrible things. Very disturbing character in that iteration. This one, I don't think there's much of a doubt that something basically snapped in him.
"Why is everyone beating him up?" Sigh... people get jumped in the cities, especially rough ones. Looking different or being different, hell just looking at someone the wrong way can be enough sometimes. Granted depends where and what time and who is about... but its not an unrealistic part of the movie sadly.
It's 'Murica, it's a common everyday occurrence here in the cities. Our society is built on extreme selfishness disguised as "personal freedom" so many people just don't care at all about anyone but themselves.
@@lordmortarius538 It's not a US exclusive thing. I live in London, there are parts of the city at night I would do not go too without my wits about me. Assholes exist everywhere. The US part of it is jumping and kicking the shit out of a guy then getting shot, thats more unique to the US in the west :P
Eh...I thought it was a demonstration of how one dimensional this film is. He gets beat up....doesn’t matter why. Ugh this movie is not as great as people make it out to be.
@@LukeIsyourfasha Because at the a few moments before he goes on the show, you see that the neighbour is not in those scenes we saw. The film is hinting that he is lying about the entire story he is telling the doctor at the very end, which is very much Joker. He says things that are relevant, then does things that are very wrong. The comments he says when on the show is compelling, then he kills the host. Everything you saw on that show is Joker himself.
IMO the first two guys he killed, he was justified in doing so. They were beating him and showed no signs of letting up, so self defense was warranted. This is partly what confuses Arthur so much about the situation and the reaction to it; he was the real victim yet society was portraying the killer as the villain without knowing the circumstances of what transpired. Of course, the third man was running away, so that was murder, even if Arthur didn't see it as such
Sure, the third one is murder, but at the same time, Arthur was still in the kill or be killed frame of mind, brought on by fight-or-flight mode, which doesn't just "end" all of a sudden, nor can it be turned off like a light switch. You don't even have to have the mental problems Arthur has for that situation to go exactly the same way.
The first guy. The second he shot stopped immediately. Hell there was a pause. He'd likely be convicted for that. Possibly even the first depending on if the court takes his word for it that they were going to kill him. If I attack you you're only legally allowed to respond with defense that goes as far as is absolutely required of you.
That's actually Joaquin Pheonix's back, it wasn't done up to show he was beat up, he was born with a shoulder deformity, likely Sprengel's, which is a higher scapula on one side than the other. He also lost a LOT of weight for this role as well.
Sean Midson ; nah ! Don’t worry he is a nice guy XD 😁😆 🤡 Good night and always remember, That’s Life ! Well no shit ! Is obvious you can’t be comfortable to watch the Joker I mean that’s the point of the film .
To be clear, the movie isn’t trying to excuse or justify his actions. It’s just showing how neglected mental illness and a constant life of abuse leads to someone breaking.
@@jaime3549 some people think he went into the fridge to kill himself and everything after that point never happened which of course is ridiculous lol. People were just over thinking the scene and trying to stretch it.
@@jaime3549 I guess it's because he's stressed. He needs silence n coolness for the body heat. When I am stressed, I just sit at one place for hours and don't realise how much time has passed. so now I keep alarm every hour now n then to remind me an hour has passed.
OMFG, I went nuts that they talked & missed the depth & brevity of the dance after the shootings. That is priceless cinema & beautifully haunting & so important & significant to his turning into the Joker.... grrrrr
The end was meant to show that the whole movie could've been in Arthur's head. The time on the clock in the asylum never changed from the beginning quick scene when talking to the therapist (banging his head on the door).
He suffers from Pseudobulbar affect. Often it presents itself in uncontrolled laughter or crying. I absolutely love this movie. The soundtrack is just as good. No one knows who the Joker is. Not even him. In the KILLING JOKE he tells batman that really doesnt know his origin. That he prefers it to be multiple choice. Even in the Dark Knight, he tells a different story everytime he talks about his scars.
Nah the 3 guys deserved it, you can't harass people and expect them not to defend themselves with weapons, especially if it's a group of people ganging up on someone
To be fair, the first one he shot was in self defense. The rest was an explosion of emotions and the beginning of the transformation. And love that you guys were surprised his imaginary relationship. And yes, Joaquim absolutely killed this version of the character
@@dakotablount251 Incorrect. He shot the 2nd one from the ground about one second after he kicked him last. Definitely self defense in most of US courts. Especially with the disparity of force of it being 3 on 1.
@@SolidSnake8295 incorrect. The first one yes. The court however would state how the shock stopped it(it did) and he wasn't required to go further. I've seen similar happen. Self defense is only allowed to THE ABSOLUTE level you're FORCED to go. If it's POSSIBLE to be settled differently they will take that. The man had time to stop kicking, look at his friend and then look back in fear. Frozen in fear. Hell a woman was convicted for killing her husband in self defense because she didn't stop immediately when he died due to her high intensity situation.
@@dakotablount251 Nope. Some US courts might be like that, but “most courts” (which is the term you used) in the US are most definitely not like that. Hell, in some states simply seeing someone commit certain non-violent felonies is justification for killing them.
It's a reaction video, so I think it's important for them to discuss about the movie especially when viewers dislikes the video when someone doesn't react enough
I absolutely *loved* this movie because of how disturbing it was. Other versions of the Joker didn't feel as disturbing or gross because they were more action/comic book-ish. They were supposed to be over the top. But this version was much more realistic and that's what made it scarier. There are people out there that could be living this sort of life where nothing goes their way and eventually they just snap. This movie was dirty, gritty, and makes you feel something. I just loved the portrayal in this movie and Joaquin Phoenix was phenomenal.
One thing to keep in mind is that this is a villain origin story, the first of it's kind since for so long we've only had superhero movies, some were anti hero, but never villains so how this story ends won't be with the main character rising above everything, accepting who he is, and finding his place in the world for the good of the people, but the exact opposite.
I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone shed tears over the murder of the rich guys randomly harassing that woman then attacking Fleck on the train.
I hope you guys acknowledge that his first kills at the subway were self-defense...cuz they were. The third guy obviously wasn't, because he chased him down. But as for the other two, he was just trying to get them to stop beating the shit out of him. He didn't kill him because they were "just jerks", they were physically assaulting him and he feared for his life.
The Joker is not supposed to have a backstory or a name. So, whenever they give the joker a backstory it is supposed to be a suggestion because the Joker is not sane enough to remember his own backstory. The Batman story that most fans believe to be to be the most likely to be true is in the comic book 'Batman the killing joke'. To paraphrase the Joker "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If i'm going to have a backstory I prefer it to be multiple choice". Which is why Heath Ledger's Joker with the multiple backstories works so well, for comic book fans. In the 1989 Batman film (Michael Keaton Batman) Joker kills Thomas and Martha Wayne and creates Batman. Then Batman accidentally drops Joker in acid creating the Joker. So, they create each other. As you predicted for this movie. In most forms of media the criminal who kills the Waynes is called Joe Chill. The Joker's real name in our universe is BELIEVED to be Jack Napier (rhymes with rapier). In an alternate universe his real name is Joe Kerr. In this movie I believe it is Arthur Fleck. Which may be a reference to Ben Affleck. who plays Batman in the DCEU/ Zack Snyder Movies. If anyone has any Questions feel free to ask!
They also reference the Valeska Twins who represent different aspects of The Joker on "Gotham" with one of the street names.Jerome represents the manic,fanatical,wisecracking,irreverent nihilism of The Joker and Jeremiah represents the cold,calculating,gangster Joker who is obsessed with Bruce Wayne,an obsession that is only enhanced when Bruce becomes Batman!
People who say the guys in the train didn't deserve to die or it was murder. I just wanna counter with: Are you any more normal or better if you're a grown man assaulting a girl and then after that a man dressed in clown clothing? My point is that these guys don't belong in the society any more or less than Arthur.
28:36 Easily my favorite shot in the movie. The bitter rage that he's been carrying around for decades is finally bubbling to the surface. Eyes watering, face shaking, voice cracking. He doesn't have to act "happy" or "normal" anymore, cause he knows what he's about to do, he knows he's embarking on a very dark chapter in his life. No point in acting any longer.
A fun Easter egg is that first scene when it zooms in on the back of his head while he’s putting on his makeup, if you notice the mirror, it looks like Batman. Also, that first scene when he’s getting beat up and his hand is over his junk, I don’t think that he was “hit in his peanuts”. Considering how often he gets beat up in this movie, his messed up shoulders and ribs, and his abuse as a child, it means that beatdowns might be a weekly occurrence, and perhaps he’s learned to cover his fishing tackle and vital organs to keep it from getting hit.
You guys talk a little trash about him shooting those guys on the subway. Only one of those guys was murdered, the other two were killed in self defense. The bottom line is this: The first punch that hit Arthur Fleck was enough to knock him unconscious, his head hitting the ground that hard would probably be a concussion all in all. Then you have the kicking, a broken rib can easily become jagged and puncture an organ such as your heart and lungs. Now, let's say at this point he doesn't shoot, they keep kicking, they start kicking his head. Arthur is knocked unconscious again, his brain hemorrhages from the trauma. The subway car is now empty except for Arthur, no gunshots were fired so no one heard it. Arthur lays there for 30 minutes while his body struggles to stay alive for just one minute...but no one comes and the guys that beat him up are long gone, having some more drinks. Arthur dies. That's not even worst case scenario as far as body trauma. But yeah, if he didn't shoot, he might've died for sure. Those guys weren't playing, they were drunk and relentless.
This is not Joker's Origin Story. This is the Origin story that the Joker made up as an excuse for his actions. He was in the psychiatric ward from the beginning of the film and told the psychiatrist what we saw here. Until he broke out in the end. He never had a girlfriend, his father wasn't Thomas Wayne, and he never appeared on TV. He was never ambushed or beaten up. None of what we saw was real. Everything brain-crazy or the perfidious game with the psychiatrist.
Oh my dears, you're reaction seems like it was exactly like mine the first time I saw it. I cried throughout, off & on. It was such an epic, absolutely phenomenal movie. Taking a comic book character and making him real and feel empathy and love and caring for him was so amazing. It took me awhile and watching it a few more times, to let it all sink in and wrap my head around it all. I absolutely loved it!!!! 😍❤👍💛👏👏👏👏👏 Joaquin winning the Oscar was SO well deserved! His performance and the music and directing and cinematography and lighting was just all spot on and sent chills down my spine and goosebumps on my skin, even when I just saw the trailers of this. I think it touches so many of us, as you said too, bcs there are these issues and problems going on in our world & societies, esp where mental illness or poverty or even bullying etc... Gets swept under the rug and not dealt with properly and there's never enough funding from Govts to help those who most need it. So we end up with all these mass shootings going on and homelessness is rampant in the mentally ill community. It's a disgrace and I'm so thankful this movie was made to put a spotlight on it, using Joker. Cuz it reached millions more then if it was just a movie about a man with mental illness. Of course he suffered from many issues, childhood PTSD, his laughing disorder, he naturally would be narcissistic (since his Mother was, and he had all his grandiose delusions). So basically he started out a good person, but his childhood and society turned him into a serial killer who finally felt like he mattered and had numbed his truest nature of goodness. It's a heart breaking yet truly beautiful movie to watch. Even the ending, you were like me, almost feeling bad for smiling and cheering on the chaos ... Yet I don't think any of us should feel bad. Cuz I think so many of us kinda related. Maybe some moreso. Even tho we don't condone violence.. It just seems like redemption for him. And it does make you smile. ☺ Peace and wellness to you both. Thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed it and hope you read this. 🤗 Edit add-on: I think we get to see how serial killers, mass shooters, etc become what they are... They can't handle the craziness and want to end it all. So they hurt others bcs they hurt, and then they get caught and consequences. It doesn't make what they do ok, never, but this movie so eloquently shows perhaps the process of creating a madman. Taking a tiny soul,child and putting them in a violent, neglectful childhood then sending them into a cruel world where they are bullied and perhaps can't cope or associate. It's really a dreadful synopsis of events that lead people to these deeds and actions. I, along with millions, was cheering Arthur on! Would I cheer on a mass shooter or serial killer in real life... No! But this movie just helped us understand those who suffer, truly suffer with conditions out of their control and have empathy and yes, give a cheer when they get a bit of redemption. Ok.. I'm off my soapbox lol 😄 Lastly, Joaquin Phoenix is a truly exceptional actor, beyond any other actor imo... His other performances have all been amazing but this was phenomenal ❤ Btw, I enjoyed the whole Wayne being his Dad and perhaps the documents at the hospital were faked to keep Wayne's nose clean, and so Arthur and Bruce are really half-brothers. And then the ending being that it wasn't Joker who killed them but one of his fandom, cuz the only Batman movie I like is with Michael Keaton and that's exactly what they show, his parents being killed in front of him in a back alley by an unknown suspect. Brings it all together to me at least. ☺
My own three possible interpretations of the ending. 1) The story happened in a way we saw on screen for most of the time. Arthur Fleck became the Joker through the series of those events. 2) Arthur Fleck never actually became the Joker and he spent entire time in the asylum. What we see unfold on screen were his delusional thoughts. 3) The man we see at the end in asylum is the Joker and he just came up with yet another fabricated story about his background a.k.a "something funny". He's never outright called Arthur there so "Arthur Fleck" was just an identity he fabricated. Of course the director outright said that the movie is purposely made in a way that you can interpret things the way you want and thay there's no definite answer to what actually happened.
Those guys on the subway weren't just jerks.. they were dangerous. They harassed the woman (and seemed like they would have done more given the opportunity) and they were assaulting Arthur. He was acting in self defense at first, although admittedly he did hunt down the 3rd guy and killed him unnecessarily. Arthur was a victim.
True, Riddler presented the one in The Killing Joke, and Riddler always knows more about Gotham's characters than just about anyone else, but Joker himself never confirmed it as he prefers the ambiguity. And in the final analysis, how Joker bacame what he is is unimportant, even to himself. Basically every other character in Gotham is obsessed with how they started out, but Joker is not.
Pretty sure there was a recent one that went into his backstory and basically if I remember right the killing joke was his actual backstory. Search three jokers comic of you want see.
I watched this at the cinema. It was a masterpiece thanks to Joaquin Phoenix and the tone of the movie. The team didn't tell it's a comic movie because of the Oscar's but it's roofs are in the comic world. Your reaction when the little guy was in his apartment was mine. I was like "don't kill him, he was nice with you" it was full of tension and suspense. It was amazing how the screenwriters made us believe that "relationship" between him and the neighbor. Also I think they let the ending open for us to guess what happened. Amazing reaction. It's not an easy movie to watch but it's a masterpiece. Joaquin won the Oscar for this role.
"I thought he was gonna shoot himself." He was. You can actually see it in his eyes when he decides to kill Murray instead, it happened mid-conversation.
Joker (2019) for me is one of the most unique comic book movies ever made because it subverts everything we think and expect from one, for me it isn’t the story of THE Joker it’s the story of A Joker, the Joker doesn’t have to be just a typical and by the numbers character that has to be portrayed, written or directed completely accurately to his original source material he’s an idea and can be absolutely anyone, from the person down the street to a stranger in another country absolutely anyone can be the clown prince of crime and that’s what makes his ideology fundamentally horrific and terrifying
Lots of people on here saying this movie is disturbing. Maybe I'm chemically imbalanced in the brain, because I knew I was watching a movie the whole time and none of this was disturbing to me. Not even the scene when Arthur stabs the big guy with scissors.
Yeah, people had mixed reactions about this movie mentioning/showing a tiny bit of Bruce Wayne and the alleyway part, but I personally think it's fine they did it (even though it would've been fine without it) because you can't have Joker without a slight mention/cameo of Bruce. The two go hand in hand anyway, so I thought it was fine. So I think it was a nice twist and tie-in how Joker started a movement (unintentionally) and that movement eventaully lead to Bruce's parents' murder.
"The Dark Knight Returns" and "Batman: Year One" animated movies are very good. Many of the live-action films borrowed heavily from those stories by Frank Miller, the creator of "Sin City." That film is a masterpiece as well (the first one).
They actually CG'd in a bunch of buildings in the movie, to make Gotham feel more oppressive. If there was a street level shot with the sky showing, then they'd add buildings to cover it up, if there was an ariel view with grass and fields in view, then they'd add buildings to cover it up, to give a feeling that you couldn't escape Gotham
Batman and Joker dialogue that can be used here: Batman (1989): "I made you, you made me." The Dark Knight (2008): "You complete me." Gotham (2014-2019): "You know Bruce, you're really not the funniest clown" (Season 3) and "You truly are my very best friend" (Season 4).
And if you notice....In the beginning they don't show much sky or the surrounding much...but when he slowly become joker.... slowly we can see the sky and Everything more.....he become free.....that's beautiful cinematography...
I'm an old school comic book enthusiast. Back when I was 7 I discovered TMNT, Elfquest, and Batman kind of all at the same time. Batman has been my jam. Joker has been my favorite bad guy since 1982. Heath Ledger spelled out the Joker, Joaquin Phoenix was an untrustworthy narrator psychotic murderous ._.Dude was the joker.
HER: Did they kick him in his peanut's? LAUGH! few seconds later HER: I don't like to see people suffering. I agree with your Husband. I will Call you a villain if a gang beats you up.
Take note society this is what happens when you treat a person like garbage and bully and treat person like there dirt this is so realistic people wonder why people BLOW and SNAP when you treat a person bad and bully be nasty to them be careful one day they will just go
I grew up in Scarborough Ontario and yes, Joker was a term used all the time back when I grew up there in the late 70's to late 80's. Has stuck with me and everyone I know from there ever since.
i'm sorry i laughed at your reaction to him killing randall. when you mentioned in the beginning you were super pregnant i knew your emotions would be all over the place. lol great reaction though!
The girl in this cries after the three sexual assaultants were killed, but doesn't cry when the joker finds out he was abused as a child. She is hella sus
This is one interpretation of the Joker origin story. Joker himself has been quoted saying he feels he doesn't have an origin story but if he did he hoped it was multiple choice. I remember seeing this movie in the theater the week came out it was the most disturbing thing I have ever seen on film but I enjoyed it. We have Joker because Society doesn't treat the mentally ill like they're supposed to and they're not respected they're look down upon. Joker is a lesson that everyone deserves help and respect. Something the world has yet to see
The minute i saw the title of this video i said....man yall asking for it lol its a fantastic movie but i only seen it twice because u dont just feel uncomfortable...you need a hug lol
This movie can be interpreted in many ways like for example one of them is that the guys in the subway didnt really harrassed him but he imagines it bcs he hates them for being "part of the riches"so all that harrasman is in his mind in my opinion all the movie is him inside his headand we are the psychologe in the end all the movie is him explaining why he is like that if u see the time is allways the same time 🤷♂️
1) Thanks for the reaction, guys! 2) Joaquin Phoenix is just incredible and gorgeous! 3) Jane, are you crazy!? To watch such heavy and hard films as "Joker", being pregnant, and even at such a long term? Take care of yourself and the baby, please!
In the Batman universe, the joker doesn’t have a real name. He’s a mystery wrapped in an enigma. He does have alias in some adaptations like Joe Ker. And of course there’s Jack Napier from Tim Burton’s Batman but other than that he doesn’t have a conclusive or coherent name.
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From what I've heard, they've based THIS version of Gotham off of several city locations.
So, Toronto could probably be one of them; I know New York and/or Chicago was
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere in the comments but as an American gun owner I wanted to give a little info from south of your border.
In the subway when he shot those 3 guys, the first 2 were self defense and those 2 deserved what happened to them. In most of America if the joker stopped there it would have been self defense open and shut case.
The third one after fleeing and being pursued and shot was definitely a straight up murder even by American legal standards.
Most DC animated movies are almost carbon copies of the Graphic Novels. Trust me, watch
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idk why reactors feel sorry for the mom, those 3 guys on the subway...
they got what they deserve.
@@nightponyinrface6009 Agreed
The Joker doesn't get sent to jail, he's put in an asylum for the insane.
He was in the asylum the whole movie. We were watching what was going on inside his head.
@Elijah Baker The crash was in his head too
@Elijah Baker Like he originally did.
@Elijah Baker I was responding to "Well who knows what’s real all we know is that the joker created Batman in this universe". Joker originally created Batman when he killed his parents.
@Elijah Baker You know, Tim burton did not create this world right? Joker's "origin" is pretty well known. They do change it for the movies sometimes though, and I get that.
JV: hope it's not disturbing
Todd Phillips: Hold my beer ..
She also mentioned she doesn’t like watching people suffer. 🍻
That is not how the joke goes mate
Joker never had a set origin. He keeps changing his story. “Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If I had a past, I’d prefer it to be multiple choice”
I think cesar, heath, and Joaquin are the most realistic since they wear face paint
@@Kiiieeechiii I like the skin bleaching better.
Except the comic joker. He has at least a nearly set origin now
@@dakotablount251 he still doesn’t have a canon origin
@@dakotablount251 yes, most writers go with him falling into acid (which joker could be lying about) but even then we still don’t know who he was before that or his name
This is not a violent movie, this is a movie that explains the reasons why violence is the biggest part of our society nowadays
So its a violent movie.
@@ohboi9578 ahahahahah, yes basically
@@ohboi9578 yeah what lol
Do you even know the definition of violent m*ron?
Exactly 👍
*This is exactly why he got the Oscar for best actor. Just a brilliant performance. Easily one of my favorite films of all time. And the score is just something else. It also won the Oscar for best score*
"I hope it's not too disturbing" Oh, sweethearts, I'm sorry
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@Kevin PELLETIER everyone had it coming in this movie. Maybe not his mother because she had a medical condition so she didn’t know the truth… and maybe Martha Wayne.
getting mad/sad at the joker for killing those guys like wtf they were beating the shit out of him 😂 i think 90% of people would do the same
Exactly. She doesn’t seem to understand. He was basically defending himself from being killed or at least get some permanent damage if they kept beating him. That’s clearly self defense, even though he might gotten in trouble for having an unlicensed gun
Ah ha another example of how one dimensional this movie is. Bullies on the train. No developmental reasons why these guys are bullies on the train, they just are. As a viewer, you should just get this and understand it, and then because of that people will feel bad for joker. This movie isn't as great as people make it out to be. Insists on itself, and the background batman stories. This is one of those movies people loved before seeing it, and then once they saw it, they couldn't go against their initial thoughts, and will defend their predetermined analysis forever.
@@LukeIsyourfasha That sounds so pretentious lol its a movie things are set up to save time. They cant give everyone backstories. Plus, a lot of bullies are privileged rich kids irl anyway they're using the stereotype. At least where I grew up. Also, if you don't like the movie what're you doing here?
The first two were justifiable, imminent fear for his life and all that. The 3rd was murder, stalking the guy while he tried to flee.
@@LukeIsyourfasha How old are you ?
to be a successful/memorable character in the gothamverse you gotta be totally insane JOKER/BATMAN
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Batman isn’t insane though lol he has ptsd and wears a bat suit but he’s pretty sane
He’s the exact opposite of joker yet they’re also very similar in a lot of ways
@@Kiiieeechiii Joker isn't insane either here.
@@d3l3tes00n I thought he was much more insane in this one than in many of his other portrayals. He was kind of pathetic in this one, the world just broke him. He lost his sanity. Moore's Joker, and by extension TDK Joker, which borrowed heavily from that version, didn't seem insane at all. Like it was all a put on for him, an elaborate joke. An excuse for him to do terrible, terrible things. Very disturbing character in that iteration. This one, I don't think there's much of a doubt that something basically snapped in him.
"Why is everyone beating him up?" Sigh... people get jumped in the cities, especially rough ones. Looking different or being different, hell just looking at someone the wrong way can be enough sometimes. Granted depends where and what time and who is about... but its not an unrealistic part of the movie sadly.
It's 'Murica, it's a common everyday occurrence here in the cities. Our society is built on extreme selfishness disguised as "personal freedom" so many people just don't care at all about anyone but themselves.
@@lordmortarius538 It's not a US exclusive thing. I live in London, there are parts of the city at night I would do not go too without my wits about me. Assholes exist everywhere. The US part of it is jumping and kicking the shit out of a guy then getting shot, thats more unique to the US in the west :P
Except Gotham makes those cities look like saints. There is a reason Batman and Joker only work in Gotham.
Eh...I thought it was a demonstration of how one dimensional this film is. He gets beat up....doesn’t matter why. Ugh this movie is not as great as people make it out to be.
@@LukeIsyourfasha Because at the a few moments before he goes on the show, you see that the neighbour is not in those scenes we saw.
The film is hinting that he is lying about the entire story he is telling the doctor at the very end, which is very much Joker.
He says things that are relevant, then does things that are very wrong. The comments he says when on the show is compelling, then he kills the host. Everything you saw on that show is Joker himself.
IMO the first two guys he killed, he was justified in doing so. They were beating him and showed no signs of letting up, so self defense was warranted. This is partly what confuses Arthur so much about the situation and the reaction to it; he was the real victim yet society was portraying the killer as the villain without knowing the circumstances of what transpired. Of course, the third man was running away, so that was murder, even if Arthur didn't see it as such
Sure, the third one is murder, but at the same time, Arthur was still in the kill or be killed frame of mind, brought on by fight-or-flight mode, which doesn't just "end" all of a sudden, nor can it be turned off like a light switch.
You don't even have to have the mental problems Arthur has for that situation to go exactly the same way.
Third one deserved it, too.
The first guy. The second he shot stopped immediately. Hell there was a pause. He'd likely be convicted for that. Possibly even the first depending on if the court takes his word for it that they were going to kill him.
If I attack you you're only legally allowed to respond with defense that goes as far as is absolutely required of you.
@@dakotablount251 That's why the law sucks lol
@@d3l3tes00n I agree. But they are what they are. For now
That's actually Joaquin Pheonix's back, it wasn't done up to show he was beat up, he was born with a shoulder deformity, likely Sprengel's, which is a higher scapula on one side than the other. He also lost a LOT of weight for this role as well.
I heard he hurt himself as a kid and that’s how he messed up his shoulder/collar bone
yes not a ton of people know that about him, Sprengel's may also be the reason for the scar on his lip
You're not supposed to feel comfortable with The Joker 🤷🏼♂️
I do
exactly, that's the whole point of this film and that's why it's a masterpiece
Sean Midson ; nah ! Don’t worry he is a nice guy XD 😁😆
🤡 Good night and always remember,
That’s Life !
Well no shit ! Is obvious you can’t be comfortable to watch the Joker I mean that’s the point of the film .
Im pretty sure they weren't complaining I think they were just stating how they feel
@@hippityhoppity5823 which is fine
To be clear, the movie isn’t trying to excuse or justify his actions. It’s just showing how neglected mental illness and a constant life of abuse leads to someone breaking.
i cant believe so many youtubers/people dont get why He went into the fridge.
and they talk over his dancing
Haha I said the same thing about the dancing part. That’s like talking over a guitar solo! A niche niche!
i mean i get the fridge scene but why do you think he went in there?
@@jaime3549 some people think he went into the fridge to kill himself and everything after that point never happened which of course is ridiculous lol. People were just over thinking the scene and trying to stretch it.
@@jaime3549 I guess it's because he's stressed. He needs silence n coolness for the body heat. When I am stressed, I just sit at one place for hours and don't realise how much time has passed. so now I keep alarm every hour now n then to remind me an hour has passed.
OMFG, I went nuts that they talked & missed the depth & brevity of the dance after the shootings. That is priceless cinema & beautifully haunting & so important & significant to his turning into the Joker.... grrrrr
The end was meant to show that the whole movie could've been in Arthur's head. The time on the clock in the asylum never changed from the beginning quick scene when talking to the therapist (banging his head on the door).
I noticed that the first time I saw it but I’d never seen anyone mention it in a reaction.
Exactly! Maybe everything that happened before the talk show wasn't what actually happened for all we know.
He suffers from Pseudobulbar affect. Often it presents itself in uncontrolled laughter or crying. I absolutely love this movie. The soundtrack is just as good. No one knows who the Joker is. Not even him. In the KILLING JOKE he tells batman that really doesnt know his origin. That he prefers it to be multiple choice. Even in the Dark Knight, he tells a different story everytime he talks about his scars.
This crazy Joker is the real kinda Joker. Except usually with more "twisted humor"
More twisted then "Knock knock. Who's there? The police. Your son was killed in a drunk driving accident?"
The director wanted us to assume the ending, for example all the movie could have happened or it could have all been in his head
Kinda like the ending of Inception
@@jaycup4176 have you noticed all the clocks are stuck on 11:11?
@@dirtydeeds8173 the Director said about this fact that it wasn’t planned , it was just a coincidence
Nah the 3 guys deserved it, you can't harass people and expect them not to defend themselves with weapons, especially if it's a group of people ganging up on someone
"Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable."
- Cesar A. Cruz
I didn’t feel bad when Arthur killed those 3 guys.
Joker isn't slang... it's literally just the dictionary definition of that word.
He climbed into his fridge because you do crazy random shit when you don't have your medication.
Also as a form of self harm/disassociation/numbing himself
In fact, that scene was improvisation from joaquin
@@infanteloco That wouldn't surprise me at all. Him dancing in the public men's room after his first murder was improvised as well.
and this is based on personal experience?
@@tyroneloki5131 thankfully not
To be fair, the first one he shot was in self defense. The rest was an explosion of emotions and the beginning of the transformation.
And love that you guys were surprised his imaginary relationship.
And yes, Joaquim absolutely killed this version of the character
*the first 2
Also, Joaquin
Ehhh not when he chases someone down to shoot them multiple times, thats murder
@@purpleassasin Exactly. The first 2 were self-defense.
The 3rd guy in the subway was definately not self defense
So I agree
"everyone is awful these days....its enough to make anyone crazy" that's very true dude very very true
13:13 He didn’t “murder people.” The first two were definitely self defense.
Not really. The first one? Maybe. The second one stopped. At that point it isn't legal self defense to kill.
Since his only attempt to stop it was killing, most courts would convict him on that alone. Self defense isn't as easy as you think.
@@dakotablount251 Incorrect. He shot the 2nd one from the ground about one second after he kicked him last. Definitely self defense in most of US courts. Especially with the disparity of force of it being 3 on 1.
@@SolidSnake8295 incorrect. The first one yes. The court however would state how the shock stopped it(it did) and he wasn't required to go further. I've seen similar happen.
Self defense is only allowed to THE ABSOLUTE level you're FORCED to go. If it's POSSIBLE to be settled differently they will take that.
The man had time to stop kicking, look at his friend and then look back in fear. Frozen in fear.
Hell a woman was convicted for killing her husband in self defense because she didn't stop immediately when he died due to her high intensity situation.
@@dakotablount251 Nope. Some US courts might be like that, but “most courts” (which is the term you used) in the US are most definitely not like that. Hell, in some states simply seeing someone commit certain non-violent felonies is justification for killing them.
When you guys talked through jokers bathroom dance and not get mesmerized, I knew you guys weren't ready for this movie.
It's a reaction video, so I think it's important for them to discuss about the movie especially when viewers dislikes the video when someone doesn't react enough
@@GellertTV Not when crucial events happen.It breaks immersion.
@@ok-vr7by Ok you're right
The woman he "saves" on the train appears again wearing his Joker mask later.
I absolutely *loved* this movie because of how disturbing it was. Other versions of the Joker didn't feel as disturbing or gross because they were more action/comic book-ish. They were supposed to be over the top. But this version was much more realistic and that's what made it scarier. There are people out there that could be living this sort of life where nothing goes their way and eventually they just snap. This movie was dirty, gritty, and makes you feel something. I just loved the portrayal in this movie and Joaquin Phoenix was phenomenal.
One thing to keep in mind is that this is a villain origin story, the first of it's kind since for so long we've only had superhero movies, some were anti hero, but never villains so how this story ends won't be with the main character rising above everything, accepting who he is, and finding his place in the world for the good of the people, but the exact opposite.
I think this is the first time I’ve seen someone shed tears over the murder of the rich guys randomly harassing that woman then attacking Fleck on the train.
Says a lot about the person, doesn't it?
I hope you guys acknowledge that his first kills at the subway were self-defense...cuz they were. The third guy obviously wasn't, because he chased him down. But as for the other two, he was just trying to get them to stop beating the shit out of him. He didn't kill him because they were "just jerks", they were physically assaulting him and he feared for his life.
Joaquin Phoenix won the oscar for best actor for his role. This also won the oscar for best original score
The Joker is not supposed to have a backstory or a name. So, whenever they give the joker a backstory it is supposed to be a suggestion because the Joker is not sane enough to remember his own backstory. The Batman story that most fans believe to be to be the most likely to be true is in the comic book 'Batman the killing joke'. To paraphrase the Joker "Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another. If i'm going to have a backstory I prefer it to be multiple choice". Which is why Heath Ledger's Joker with the multiple backstories works so well, for comic book fans.
In the 1989 Batman film (Michael Keaton Batman) Joker kills Thomas and Martha Wayne and creates Batman. Then Batman accidentally drops Joker in acid creating the Joker. So, they create each other. As you predicted for this movie. In most forms of media the criminal who kills the Waynes is called Joe Chill.
The Joker's real name in our universe is BELIEVED to be Jack Napier (rhymes with rapier). In an alternate universe his real name is Joe Kerr. In this movie I believe it is Arthur Fleck. Which may be a reference to Ben Affleck. who plays Batman in the DCEU/ Zack Snyder Movies. If anyone has any Questions feel free to ask!
They also reference the Valeska Twins who represent different aspects of The Joker on "Gotham" with one of the street names.Jerome represents the manic,fanatical,wisecracking,irreverent nihilism of The Joker and Jeremiah represents the cold,calculating,gangster Joker who is obsessed with Bruce Wayne,an obsession that is only enhanced when Bruce becomes Batman!
People who say the guys in the train didn't deserve to die or it was murder. I just wanna counter with: Are you any more normal or better if you're a grown man assaulting a girl and then after that a man dressed in clown clothing? My point is that these guys don't belong in the society any more or less than Arthur.
This was the most phenomenal movie I have ever seen. And I watch A LOT of movies
28:36 Easily my favorite shot in the movie.
The bitter rage that he's been carrying around for decades is finally bubbling to the surface. Eyes watering, face shaking, voice cracking. He doesn't have to act "happy" or "normal" anymore, cause he knows what he's about to do, he knows he's embarking on a very dark chapter in his life. No point in acting any longer.
A fun Easter egg is that first scene when it zooms in on the back of his head while he’s putting on his makeup, if you notice the mirror, it looks like Batman.
Also, that first scene when he’s getting beat up and his hand is over his junk, I don’t think that he was “hit in his peanuts”. Considering how often he gets beat up in this movie, his messed up shoulders and ribs, and his abuse as a child, it means that beatdowns might be a weekly occurrence, and perhaps he’s learned to cover his fishing tackle and vital organs to keep it from getting hit.
You guys talk a little trash about him shooting those guys on the subway. Only one of those guys was murdered, the other two were killed in self defense. The bottom line is this: The first punch that hit Arthur Fleck was enough to knock him unconscious, his head hitting the ground that hard would probably be a concussion all in all. Then you have the kicking, a broken rib can easily become jagged and puncture an organ such as your heart and lungs. Now, let's say at this point he doesn't shoot, they keep kicking, they start kicking his head. Arthur is knocked unconscious again, his brain hemorrhages from the trauma. The subway car is now empty except for Arthur, no gunshots were fired so no one heard it. Arthur lays there for 30 minutes while his body struggles to stay alive for just one minute...but no one comes and the guys that beat him up are long gone, having some more drinks. Arthur dies. That's not even worst case scenario as far as body trauma. But yeah, if he didn't shoot, he might've died for sure. Those guys weren't playing, they were drunk and relentless.
I love this movie and the acting, Joacquin owns my heart
You guys are too sweet and Canadian to be watching movies like this.
This is not Joker's Origin Story. This is the Origin story that the Joker made up as an excuse for his actions. He was in the psychiatric ward from the beginning of the film and told the psychiatrist what we saw here. Until he broke out in the end. He never had a girlfriend, his father wasn't Thomas Wayne, and he never appeared on TV. He was never ambushed or beaten up. None of what we saw was real. Everything brain-crazy or the perfidious game with the psychiatrist.
Amazing film and portrayal of what it takes to possibly make The Joker.
Congrats on baby on #2 being on the way!
Our answer to the Joker: Charles Manson.
Oh my dears, you're reaction seems like it was exactly like mine the first time I saw it. I cried throughout, off & on. It was such an epic, absolutely phenomenal movie. Taking a comic book character and making him real and feel empathy and love and caring for him was so amazing. It took me awhile and watching it a few more times, to let it all sink in and wrap my head around it all. I absolutely loved it!!!! 😍❤👍💛👏👏👏👏👏 Joaquin winning the Oscar was SO well deserved! His performance and the music and directing and cinematography and lighting was just all spot on and sent chills down my spine and goosebumps on my skin, even when I just saw the trailers of this. I think it touches so many of us, as you said too, bcs there are these issues and problems going on in our world & societies, esp where mental illness or poverty or even bullying etc... Gets swept under the rug and not dealt with properly and there's never enough funding from Govts to help those who most need it. So we end up with all these mass shootings going on and homelessness is rampant in the mentally ill community. It's a disgrace and I'm so thankful this movie was made to put a spotlight on it, using Joker. Cuz it reached millions more then if it was just a movie about a man with mental illness. Of course he suffered from many issues, childhood PTSD, his laughing disorder, he naturally would be narcissistic (since his Mother was, and he had all his grandiose delusions). So basically he started out a good person, but his childhood and society turned him into a serial killer who finally felt like he mattered and had numbed his truest nature of goodness. It's a heart breaking yet truly beautiful movie to watch. Even the ending, you were like me, almost feeling bad for smiling and cheering on the chaos ... Yet I don't think any of us should feel bad. Cuz I think so many of us kinda related. Maybe some moreso. Even tho we don't condone violence.. It just seems like redemption for him. And it does make you smile. ☺ Peace and wellness to you both. Thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed it and hope you read this. 🤗
Edit add-on: I think we get to see how serial killers, mass shooters, etc become what they are... They can't handle the craziness and want to end it all. So they hurt others bcs they hurt, and then they get caught and consequences. It doesn't make what they do ok, never, but this movie so eloquently shows perhaps the process of creating a madman. Taking a tiny soul,child and putting them in a violent, neglectful childhood then sending them into a cruel world where they are bullied and perhaps can't cope or associate. It's really a dreadful synopsis of events that lead people to these deeds and actions. I, along with millions, was cheering Arthur on! Would I cheer on a mass shooter or serial killer in real life... No! But this movie just helped us understand those who suffer, truly suffer with conditions out of their control and have empathy and yes, give a cheer when they get a bit of redemption. Ok.. I'm off my soapbox lol 😄 Lastly, Joaquin Phoenix is a truly exceptional actor, beyond any other actor imo... His other performances have all been amazing but this was phenomenal ❤ Btw, I enjoyed the whole Wayne being his Dad and perhaps the documents at the hospital were faked to keep Wayne's nose clean, and so Arthur and Bruce are really half-brothers. And then the ending being that it wasn't Joker who killed them but one of his fandom, cuz the only Batman movie I like is with Michael Keaton and that's exactly what they show, his parents being killed in front of him in a back alley by an unknown suspect. Brings it all together to me at least. ☺
"Taxi Driver". Definitely worth a watch. One of my favorite movies of all time.
"I don't like to see people suffering"
Well, you definetly choose the wrong movie lol
Didn't like to see people suffer but what about joker's suffering lol they definitely picked the wrong movie
I enjoy seeing humans suffer
My own three possible interpretations of the ending.
1) The story happened in a way we saw on screen for most of the time. Arthur Fleck became the Joker through the series of those events.
2) Arthur Fleck never actually became the Joker and he spent entire time in the asylum. What we see unfold on screen were his delusional thoughts.
3) The man we see at the end in asylum is the Joker and he just came up with yet another fabricated story about his background a.k.a "something funny". He's never outright called Arthur there so "Arthur Fleck" was just an identity he fabricated.
Of course the director outright said that the movie is purposely made in a way that you can interpret things the way you want and thay there's no definite answer to what actually happened.
This was incredible to see in the theater.
One amazing thing about this Joker is, when he angry, he laugh. And when he happy, he dance. How can he act in such as role.
He never had a name. His past is always mysterious.
31:31 this reaction in a nutshell.
Fun fact, the composer of this films music made the music before even seeing the film. She is an Icelandic woman.
*Composition. Composure is something completely different.
@@Saranda4787 I fixed it.
Those guys on the subway weren't just jerks.. they were dangerous. They harassed the woman (and seemed like they would have done more given the opportunity) and they were assaulting Arthur. He was acting in self defense at first, although admittedly he did hunt down the 3rd guy and killed him unnecessarily. Arthur was a victim.
The Original Joker doesn't actually have an actual origin story in the comics..
True, Riddler presented the one in The Killing Joke, and Riddler always knows more about Gotham's characters than just about anyone else, but Joker himself never confirmed it as he prefers the ambiguity. And in the final analysis, how Joker bacame what he is is unimportant, even to himself. Basically every other character in Gotham is obsessed with how they started out, but Joker is not.
Pretty sure there was a recent one that went into his backstory and basically if I remember right the killing joke was his actual backstory. Search three jokers comic of you want see.
@@kenanf92 I stopped collecting comics after Batman 50 and will not financially or otherwise support DC anymore.
@@Matej_Sojka well there are videos on UA-cam about the story, either way it's a pretty cool look into the character.
@@Matej_Sojka Why? DC Black Label comics are good read!
Arthur: getting beaten up for no reason
Defends himself
Jane: it’s not ok to murder people
"I don't like people suffering"
You are watching a wrong movie then sister.
A masterpiece
If you notice joker is always walking up that stone stairs showing him trying to climb up but at the end he just hops down
I watched this at the cinema. It was a masterpiece thanks to Joaquin Phoenix and the tone of the movie. The team didn't tell it's a comic movie because of the Oscar's but it's roofs are in the comic world.
Your reaction when the little guy was in his apartment was mine. I was like "don't kill him, he was nice with you" it was full of tension and suspense.
It was amazing how the screenwriters made us believe that "relationship" between him and the neighbor.
Also I think they let the ending open for us to guess what happened.
Amazing reaction. It's not an easy movie to watch but it's a masterpiece. Joaquin won the Oscar for this role.
My favourite film of last year, I absolutely loved it
"I thought he was gonna shoot himself."
He was. You can actually see it in his eyes when he decides to kill Murray instead, it happened mid-conversation.
insane how much u guys grew been here sine ATLA I barely use this app anymore but continue the grind still supporting behind the scenes :D
I think the ending is a build up to a new movie where he kills the guards and everyone and escapes
BRILLIANT movie, Pheonix DESERVED that Oscar
"he doesnt kill his imaginary girlfriend" well there were sirens outside directly after that scene so.....
Joker (2019) for me is one of the most unique comic book movies ever made because it subverts everything we think and expect from one, for me it isn’t the story of THE Joker it’s the story of A Joker, the Joker doesn’t have to be just a typical and by the numbers character that has to be portrayed, written or directed completely accurately to his original source material he’s an idea and can be absolutely anyone, from the person down the street to a stranger in another country absolutely anyone can be the clown prince of crime and that’s what makes his ideology fundamentally horrific and terrifying
I'm from the GTA and have been watching you guys for years. You're doing great and making us proud! You're representing Canada on UA-cam very well.
Murray was an asshole that was egging Arthur on and insulting him. That's what lead to his death.
It hurts for him to laugh which he can't control
Lots of people on here saying this movie is disturbing. Maybe I'm chemically imbalanced in the brain, because I knew I was watching a movie the whole time and none of this was disturbing to me. Not even the scene when Arthur stabs the big guy with scissors.
Yeah, people had mixed reactions about this movie mentioning/showing a tiny bit of Bruce Wayne and the alleyway part, but I personally think it's fine they did it (even though it would've been fine without it) because you can't have Joker without a slight mention/cameo of Bruce. The two go hand in hand anyway, so I thought it was fine. So I think it was a nice twist and tie-in how Joker started a movement (unintentionally) and that movement eventaully lead to Bruce's parents' murder.
"The Dark Knight Returns" and "Batman: Year One" animated movies are very good. Many of the live-action films borrowed heavily from those stories by Frank Miller, the creator of "Sin City." That film is a masterpiece as well (the first one).
They actually CG'd in a bunch of buildings in the movie, to make Gotham feel more oppressive. If there was a street level shot with the sky showing, then they'd add buildings to cover it up, if there was an ariel view with grass and fields in view, then they'd add buildings to cover it up, to give a feeling that you couldn't escape Gotham
I remember that I just felt so uncomfortable and sad throughout the whole movie
Bro this movie was absolutely amazing it still gets me, when White Room starts playing I get shivers
Batman and Joker dialogue that can be used here:
Batman (1989): "I made you, you made me."
The Dark Knight (2008): "You complete me."
Gotham (2014-2019): "You know Bruce, you're really not the funniest clown" (Season 3) and "You truly are my very best friend" (Season 4).
The sound of the shoots at the subway makes the difference, the sound is different, more realistic, thats why It feel more raw
And if you notice....In the beginning they don't show much sky or the surrounding much...but when he slowly become joker.... slowly we can see the sky and Everything more.....he become free.....that's beautiful cinematography...
“Only the insane are strong enough to prosper. Only the prosperous can judge what is sane.”
-Dark Heresy
I'm an old school comic book enthusiast. Back when I was 7 I discovered TMNT, Elfquest, and Batman kind of all at the same time. Batman has been my jam. Joker has been my favorite bad guy since 1982. Heath Ledger spelled out the Joker, Joaquin Phoenix was an untrustworthy narrator psychotic murderous ._.Dude was the joker.
remember bois joker is not a character it's the upcoming generation, anyone can become the J O K E R if they had enough of this world
“Oh shucks!”
Lady has her UA-cam filter on 😂
HER: Did they kick him in his peanut's? LAUGH!
few seconds later
HER: I don't like to see people suffering.
I agree with your Husband. I will Call you a villain if a gang beats you up.
Joaquin Phoenix's performance is brilliant, white the Story have a lot parallels with Taxi Driver, in which de Niro played the reading role
Take note society this is what happens when you treat a person like garbage and bully and treat person like there dirt this is so realistic people wonder why people BLOW and SNAP when you treat a person bad and bully be nasty to them be careful one day they will just go
I grew up in Scarborough Ontario and yes, Joker was a term used all the time back when I grew up there in the late 70's to late 80's. Has stuck with me and everyone I know from there ever since.
i'm sorry i laughed at your reaction to him killing randall. when you mentioned in the beginning you were super pregnant i knew your emotions would be all over the place. lol great reaction though!
The girl in this cries after the three sexual assaultants were killed, but doesn't cry when the joker finds out he was abused as a child. She is hella sus
This is one interpretation of the Joker origin story. Joker himself has been quoted saying he feels he doesn't have an origin story but if he did he hoped it was multiple choice. I remember seeing this movie in the theater the week came out it was the most disturbing thing I have ever seen on film but I enjoyed it. We have Joker because Society doesn't treat the mentally ill like they're supposed to and they're not respected they're look down upon. Joker is a lesson that everyone deserves help and respect. Something the world has yet to see
sending big love from Montreal, i love you guys!
The minute i saw the title of this video i said....man yall asking for it lol its a fantastic movie but i only seen it twice because u dont just feel uncomfortable...you need a hug lol
This movie can be interpreted in many ways like for example one of them is that the guys in the subway didnt really harrassed him but he imagines it bcs he hates them for being "part of the riches"so all that harrasman is in his mind in my opinion all the movie is him inside his headand we are the psychologe in the end all the movie is him explaining why he is like that if u see the time is allways the same time 🤷♂️
Good point
1) Thanks for the reaction, guys!
2) Joaquin Phoenix is just incredible and gorgeous!
3) Jane, are you crazy!? To watch such heavy and hard films as "Joker", being pregnant, and even at such a long term? Take care of yourself and the baby, please!
That was not a feel good movie hahaha classic thanks again for sharing your reactions!
Thanks for watching!
Love how you censor the f word but straight up show him killing Murray Franklin lol
The news channels do the same thing.
Joker Was filmed in New York and New Jersey.
In the Batman universe, the joker doesn’t have a real name. He’s a mystery wrapped in an enigma. He does have alias in some adaptations like Joe Ker. And of course there’s Jack Napier from Tim Burton’s Batman but other than that he doesn’t have a conclusive or coherent name.
Did she say she thought he was gonna shoot himself??? It’s the joker😂 if he shot himself he wouldn’t be around in all the other Batman movies😭
It's not murder if people attack you