donnie, new subscriber. Gotta say brother, you literally have every video i need to see for my yz250f. thanks for what you do, making my life so much easier.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie quick question Donnie, have you thought about changing your ECU to a Vortex one? Highly considering doing that in the near future paired with a few other upgrades.
Tests have shown the dome style filters limit the charge area above the element and actually hurt power. The air box cover can be modified to increase charge volume. I modified my stock flame arrestor screen with a dremel to make it essentially the same as the aftermarket ones. Then I just use the Twin Air filters that come with the grommet that locks the filter element onto the little nipple that protrudes out the middle of the hold down cage. With PJ1s "bubble gum" spray, I call it, used liberally. I've had great results. Saved some cash too!
Just my 2 cents: put a little bit of lithium grease (or air filter grease from K&N) on the gray plastic surface area where the filter makes contact to have a better sealing
That's a tough question. It can be a good bike for a wide range of skill levels but it's not really built for going slow. It really depends on how quickly you learn new skills. If you've never ridden before at all it might be better to pick up a nice 230 trail bike, learn the basics and then move on to a 250FX a little later. However, I have seen new riders with natural talent that don't need a starter bike at all. Thanks for watching and good luck!
Eyy Thanks for the content. Im recieving my 22 YZ 250fx tommorow. Very excited.Hows this filter set up holding up so far?im very much considering ordering
Yeah, I'm a little ocd but it sure seems like a better method of securing the filter. Things were a little dusty today and it seemed to work well. I hope your ride went well.
Just stumbled across you! Liked and subbed. Question if you don’t mind, I’m having a hard time choosing between yz250fx and ktm250xcf or saying on the yz250x that I currently have for racing. Does the 250fx haul you around well? What’s your weight if don’t mind. I’m 195-200lbs
Thanks for watching! The YZ250FX has way more power than I can use in the woods. I’ve never found a situation where I thought I needed more power. I’m 175 lbs without gear. The 250xcf is a great bike too. The only thing that would steer me away from it is the air forks.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie hey Donnie finally found a 22 250fx Friday and got it home. Due to injury and bad weather (15 degrees here) I haven’t rode it. But I managed to foul a plug and kill my oem battery trying to start. I ordered the battery you run. And a new plug. But I was curious as to what map you run? I don’t know anyone local with this bike. Look forward to the reply. Thanks.
Hi Donnie. Another question for you. I have read some people having issues with the filter on this kit being a bit big on the Yamahas, interfering with the air box cover (not sealing well and allowing water to get in from what was noted in a forum). I had seen that you stated not having issues and did the same mod to your 2023. Just wanted some feedback from somebody that has the same bike as me. Thank you.
I’ve never had any issue with the no toil filters. It would have to be installed incorrectly to interfere with the airbox cover. 2 bikes and over 200 hours with this setup. Remember, anyone can comment online, regardless of knowledge & experience
Hi Donnie. So I installed this kit on my YZ 250 FX. After doing so I appear to have failed two plugs already in about six hours of riding time. I am not sure if it’s just coincidental but have read a claim of someone else experiencing the same thing and After going back to the stock set up, not having the fouling issue. With that said, I may also be over oiling the air filter but the oil is not dripping off the filter itself. With your experience, using this set up, have you had any fowling issues that you had to make other adjustments for? Thank you.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Mainly on the FX for me as I raced HS/enduro in SERA for 30 yrs at top B level. Videos are great and very well produced and clear, Thanks.
JIS screwdrivers will get the best grip. An impact screwdriver will get stubborn screws out as well. These really shouldn’t be that tight though. Try putting some turning force on the screwdriver with one hand and tap the top of the screwdriver with a small hammer with the other hand. amzn.to/3o0eQLR
The filters from the older bikes are too big to fit properly on the No Toil cage. I've ordered a couple of extra No Toil filters specifically for this setup and I've also been able to use a twin-air filter from the twin-air high flow kit.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie yeah you apparently did well. They say that those air filter have an anti back fire system so you shouldn't use regular air filter from my last search. Thanks for the reply
@@chajda111 The sound is the same. As I said in the video, I don't think it increases power. I installed it for a better seal between the filter and airbox.
I think it's sufficient, but not great. I took the filter of my wife's 21' 250FX because I wasn't happy about the filter oiling from the dealer. I ran a light coat of a thin grease on the sealing portion of the filter. Just to help seal, and if it does lose seal I can see where the first entered.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Hello. Do you know if your friends still running the stock setup experienced dirt getting under the filter due to vibration of the filter on top of the screen? Seen some forums on it but there appears to be some biased opinions. Just trying to decide if I should convert over. Thanks for any comment or advice you can offer.
@@gmur818 Yeah, I have several close friends still running the stock filter setup with no issues that I’m aware of. The no toil kit is a better seal in my opinion but the stock setup works for a lot of people.
donnie, new subscriber. Gotta say brother, you literally have every video i need to see for my yz250f. thanks for what you do, making my life so much easier.
Awesome, I'm glad you've found my videos helpful! Thanks for watching!
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie quick question Donnie, have you thought about changing your ECU to a Vortex one?
Highly considering doing that in the near future paired with a few other upgrades.
Tests have shown the dome style filters limit the charge area above the element and actually hurt power. The air box cover can be modified to increase charge volume. I modified my stock flame arrestor screen with a dremel to make it essentially the same as the aftermarket ones. Then I just use the Twin Air filters that come with the grommet that locks the filter element onto the little nipple that protrudes out the middle of the hold down cage. With PJ1s "bubble gum" spray, I call it, used liberally. I've had great results. Saved some cash too!
Just my 2 cents: put a little bit of lithium grease (or air filter grease from K&N) on the gray plastic surface area where the filter makes contact to have a better sealing
This is what I’ve don’t since the 1980’s on all my power sport toys. Never had an issue.
Your number plates look nicely done, I like that you used the teal accent stripe and matched the font style.
Thanks, yeah I tried to use the same style and colors to blend it together. Thanks for watching!
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Where did you buy your graphics?
Interesting, the kit you installed makes it almost identical to the previous generation filters/cage setup! Looking forward to your race video!
Thanks!
I have just updated my 2021 WR250F air box boot with a 2021 YZ250F boot . More airflow more power .
Donnie - I just made this switch on my 21 YZ250FX. Your video was a huge help. Thanks!
Awesome! I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Much appreciated.
Great video!! Thanks for the support!
Thanks for the video. Would you recommend this bike for a beginner getting into the sport?
That's a tough question. It can be a good bike for a wide range of skill levels but it's not really built for going slow. It really depends on how quickly you learn new skills. If you've never ridden before at all it might be better to pick up a nice 230 trail bike, learn the basics and then move on to a 250FX a little later. However, I have seen new riders with natural talent that don't need a starter bike at all. Thanks for watching and good luck!
Eyy Thanks for the content. Im recieving my 22 YZ 250fx tommorow. Very excited.Hows this filter set up holding up so far?im very much considering ordering
It’s holding up great, no problems at all with 135 hours on it.
Good luck tomorrow on the new bike!
Thanks!
Oh wow they changed the design quite a bit around the airbox from the 17 I have, I like that better...
Yeah, I'm a little ocd but it sure seems like a better method of securing the filter. Things were a little dusty today and it seemed to work well. I hope your ride went well.
I had an earlier YZ250F and the Hi flo filter looks the same as the old Yamaha filters.
That also looks like it has more surface area to deal with really dusty rides.
Just stumbled across you! Liked and subbed. Question if you don’t mind, I’m having a hard time choosing between yz250fx and ktm250xcf or saying on the yz250x that I currently have for racing. Does the 250fx haul you around well? What’s your weight if don’t mind. I’m 195-200lbs
Thanks for watching! The YZ250FX has way more power than I can use in the woods. I’ve never found a situation where I thought I needed more power. I’m 175 lbs without gear. The 250xcf is a great bike too. The only thing that would steer me away from it is the air forks.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie hey Donnie finally found a 22 250fx Friday and got it home. Due to injury and bad weather (15 degrees here) I haven’t rode it. But I managed to foul a plug and kill my oem battery trying to start. I ordered the battery you run. And a new plug. But I was curious as to what map you run? I don’t know anyone local with this bike. Look forward to the reply. Thanks.
@@Brand0953 I run the Keefer hard hitting map 99% of the time. I occasionally run the Keefer free feeling as well.
Hi Donnie. Another question for you. I have read some people having issues with the filter on this kit being a bit big on the Yamahas, interfering with the air box cover (not sealing well and allowing water to get in from what was noted in a forum). I had seen that you stated not having issues and did the same mod to your 2023. Just wanted some feedback from somebody that has the same bike as me. Thank you.
I’ve never had any issue with the no toil filters. It would have to be installed incorrectly to interfere with the airbox cover. 2 bikes and over 200 hours with this setup. Remember, anyone can comment online, regardless of knowledge & experience
Appreciate it. Thank you for your comments. Based on them and your positive experience, I have ordered one for my bike.
Hi Donnie. So I installed this kit on my YZ 250 FX. After doing so I appear to have failed two plugs already in about six hours of riding time. I am not sure if it’s just coincidental but have read a claim of someone else experiencing the same thing and After going back to the stock set up, not having the fouling issue. With that said, I may also be over oiling the air filter but the oil is not dripping off the filter itself. With your experience, using this set up, have you had any fowling issues that you had to make other adjustments for? Thank you.
Hey Donnie,Great upgrade! Just purchased DJ a 2021 YZ250F. Considering this mod too!
Awesome! DJ is going great! I hope we run into you guys again soon.
Hopefully I'll be racing A yz250fx in B 55+ next season. This is very helpful info!
That’s awesome, thanks for watching. I have a playlist for Harescramble tips and tricks if you want to check it out as well.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Mainly on the FX for me as I raced HS/enduro in SERA for 30 yrs at top B level. Videos are great and very well produced and clear, Thanks.
Hi there I’m thinking about getting this for the same reason my only concern is do you have to get the bike tuned to work with it?
Good luck at the race. 👍🇺🇸
Thanks... I just received this part this week.... How is the new battery working out for you? My 21 has been hard starting and frustrating. Thanks!
The new battery is working well. I highly recommend the AG-801. Thanks for watching
👍 good luck this weekend man
Thanks!
are you worried about any debris falling into the intake when changing out the filter with no screen present?
With a couple of changes so far it doesn't seem to be an issue. Thanks for watching!
Nice video and good info. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
So youre taking off a mesh filter coverto replace it with a non mesh filter cover ? There's a reason for everything.
The 7 screws on the backfire screen won’t budge for me and don’t want to strip them
JIS screwdrivers will get the best grip. An impact screwdriver will get stubborn screws out as well. These really shouldn’t be that tight though. Try putting some turning force on the screwdriver with one hand and tap the top of the screwdriver with a small hammer with the other hand. amzn.to/3o0eQLR
I guess they changed it cuz my 19 yz250fx has what you are swapping out to
How do you like the bike? Does it feel heavy compared to a yz250f?
So far I like it a lot. It's been years since I rode a YZ250F so not really sure about that. This bike does not feel heavy.
Do you know if you deceide to buy extra air filter, is it the same than the 2018 or 2017 or witch year air filter?
The filters from the older bikes are too big to fit properly on the No Toil cage. I've ordered a couple of extra No Toil filters specifically for this setup and I've also been able to use a twin-air filter from the twin-air high flow kit.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie yeah you apparently did well. They say that those air filter have an anti back fire system so you shouldn't use regular air filter from my last search. Thanks for the reply
Great video thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Would the twin air power flow replacement filter fit with this setup? I’m a fan of twin air filter but believe the powerflow kit is a little steep.
I do have one filter from a twin air kit that I use. It's not a perfect fit but it works.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie did you try the DT-1 Powerflow Filter? looks like it could fit very well i think its not as steep as the twin air
Did it make a difference in power
I don’t think it did. If so it was a small difference.
hi will the airbox cover stay OEM?
Yes, I’m still using a OEM cover.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Is it higher performance? And the noise?
@@chajda111 The sound is the same. As I said in the video, I don't think it increases power. I installed it for a better seal between the filter and airbox.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie thanks for TIPS. I buy one And is perfekt.
im such an idiot.... I put the plastic piece that goes in the filter on top of the filter. Thanks no toil for the instructions
The QR code on the box doesn’t work either. Thanks for watching!
I would like this kit better if I could leave the backfire screen in place to help keep larger bits from falling in the intake. Is that possible?
I don’t really see a way to do it. I suppose you could attach some other type of screen material to the no toil replacement part.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie it’s a possibility the screen from the previous generation may fit . Who knows..🤷🏽♂️
Ironically, you're going back to a 2019 and earlier design. 😆
Yep, it’s very similar to the previous design. Thanks for watching.
I have 98 hours on my 2020 YZ250FX and those tabs are still holding the filter down OK.
I have some friends that are still running the stock setup. I may be a little ocd, lol.
I think it's sufficient, but not great. I took the filter of my wife's 21' 250FX because I wasn't happy about the filter oiling from the dealer. I ran a light coat of a thin grease on the sealing portion of the filter. Just to help seal, and if it does lose seal I can see where the first entered.
@@DirtBikingwithDonnie Hello. Do you know if your friends still running the stock setup experienced dirt getting under the filter due to vibration of the filter on top of the screen? Seen some forums on it but there appears to be some biased opinions. Just trying to decide if I should convert over. Thanks for any comment or advice you can offer.
@@gmur818 Yeah, I have several close friends still running the stock filter setup with no issues that I’m aware of. The no toil kit is a better seal in my opinion but the stock setup works for a lot of people.
Thanks for your reply.