@@horaciosi If THAT makes you cringe that hard, then you must've been hospitalized half your life, considering that even the most inconsequential details must make you cringe. Don't blame the line for your preexisting condition.
@@imfsresidentotaku9699 No he's right. Many were rushed to the infirmary after that line. It's objectively worse than the death of a close family member.
Too bad the Picard Maneuver already refers to other things. Anyway I have a feeling what you're suggesting would be a one in a million kind of thing...
I've got it! The room that Picard took Lily to is the only place on the ship the rest of the crew would allow him to practice his godawful flute playing without inciting a mutiny.
True dat: ua-cam.com/video/oiGlVUcliRI/v-deo.html Although I think he didn't bother taking the Ressikan flute with him from the Enterprise-D's wreckage. He also threw away the Kurlan Naikos.
Yeah, that whole "They won't attack until they consider us a threat" thing became more and more senseless and inconsistent with the passage of time. They only invented that rule in Q-Who? to give the away team (and us) a chance to look inside the Borg ship. Otherwise that scene just wouldn't have worked. But after that, the rule they'd established just became increasingly less convenient, especially once drones were suddenly capable of assimilating people on the spot. First it became more of a guideline than a rule, and eventually it seems like it was pretty much forgotten... unless it was suddenly convenient again.
By no means am I an expert on ST but couldn’t you assume once the Borg assimilated it’s first star fleet human it added them to their database and proceeded to seek them out using force in the future?
If being assimilated is a step-by-step procedure as it was shown in best of both worlds, well frankly that's scarier and more horror. And more similar to the Cybermen which the Borg are clearly inspired by. Instant assimilation just doesn't seem as good from a writing perspective. Like sometimes as a Storyteller you want your protagonists as well as antagonists to lack certain advantages because you're trying to tell a good story.
I appreciate the fact that they managed to pull such a heartwarming, optimistic scene up after two hours of brainless action and violence. It's more than Kurtzman could ever do
It's the new Nu-Trek production plan: make each new iteration even more terrible than the last, so that the previous installment actually starts to look good in comparison, then fans start feeling nostalgic for the good old days when Trek didn't suck quite so much, and... voila! you've made your terrible movie liked by Star Trek fans! Now repeat.
@Siren I think it was almost arrogance on the part of the writers, maybe even Patrick Stewart. Sigh, Stewart and the character Picard are heroes of mine, but STP completely ruined both of them for me. How can such poor writing and poor character interactions ever make it onto the screen?????
Why did the plasma coolant and the tanks suddenly turn green when the Borg assimilated it? Did they put a plastic decal over the tanks or put dye in the coolant like the Chicago River on St. Patrick's Day?
Hey @Jason Fischer, let me ask you a question.. If they can dye that river green on St Patrick's Day, why can't they dye it blue the other three hundred sixty four days of the year?
Why green dye when yellow mixed with the blue from light refraction would still occur? Just get a few thousand dogs that drank water a vouplr hours earlier and place them at the embankment?
Also. The Borg used a more efficient and perfect grade of coolant. Where they got it from is the same thin air as where they got all the other Borg technology. Those Replicator panels don't look large enough to do anything efficiently. Unless there's a big Replicator room that's never been mentioned in all 9000 Trek episodes from the 80s and 90s. 🤪
9:20 It's only just now that I've noticed the movie's foley artist used the exact same gunfire sounds for both Lily's gun and Picard's holodeck tommy gun.
I still have a soft spot for this movie because it was First Contact that introduced me to the TNG era Star Trek, at that point I was only familiar with the original series.
@@cyrollan some plot holes, hokey vague and overblown dialogue narrative, and plot problems would remain. How many of those would dampen enjoyment would be up to the individual.
I'd probably be the same, but fortunately/unfortunately, I was exposed to First Contact after watching all 7 seasons of TNG so I literally could not stomach the movie.
27:20 - it seems plausible, to me at least, that the blast door could be opened to allow for tubes carrying vital materials such as the flesh-melting plasma coolant to be safely loaded into the ship. This would mean that the fill valves would be secure behind a blast door so they can't be easily targeted. As for why they wouldn't load it through the cargo bay, it makes a bit more sense to use a small room for that purpose as it would be less strain on ship systems to repressurize a small room rather han a giant cargo bay.
This movie is the reason I started watching TNG, I loved it when I saw it without knowing the context and the characters' behavior and motivation made sense in the context of what I later saw when I watched the show. Plus it's arguably the most beautiful Star Trek has ever looked.
Same here. Saw First Contact before ever watching TNG. It kind of made me want to see how the character of Picard seen in Encounter at Farpoint would eventually become the Picard seen in First Contact.
@@BioGoji-zm5ph I've never quite understood the vitriol of some fans regarding the more action Picard we see in First Contact. He'd already shown he was very much capable of some action and some spurts of anger in the series. He also suffered a dramatic family tragedy in Generations and that absolutely changes you at a fundamental level. Picard I think becomes more loose and care-free from then-on and he takes more risks in terms of pushing boundaries and challenging things in a more pro-active manner. I think Insurrection especially proves that point. Nemesis smashed another hammer into to the psyche with the clone! Of course he'd be a bit miffed but he also still retained a lot of his TNG character traits too IMO. People change and it seemed common sense to expect Picard to change in the movies. It seemed a bit more dramatic but these movies came out years apart and the series was continuing for seven years and only broke off for the actors in the summer for a few weeks, the characters changed more progressively and you don't notice it until you go back and revisit the series and you can quickly how the characters (and actors) change over time.
The diversion actually makes sense because you can see people still climbing into the Jeffries tube while she's talking, so she's not just wasting time. She gets in right after the last person goes in.
Dude, how are you doing these?! It's not just an upscaler, right? Are you going back and recutting everything from scratch?! This is insanely impressive!!
It is all recut. It should be frame for frame the same as the original or maybe equivalent for 16x9 composition. I have to redo effects and try to find the highest quality version of any images used with Tineye or google image search.
'Tale of Two Picard' Indeed! I've always felt the first few film Picards almost ignored any personal growth he'd gained in the series. As much as I enjoy the films, it always stands out to me. BUT, another perspective is that he's fed up with 'by the book!'
Considering it was Borqg Queen's Cube, it was basically a flagship. Defiant surviving that is basically a miracle on it self as the previous Federation flagship was destroyed already.
The Defiant is only of only a few ships causing damage, the others aren’t even scratching the cube. Also, Sisko says the Defiant was supposed to be PART of a battle fleet, so I always pictured 50 of them going against a cube
It makes sense when you realize that Starfleet was attacking the Cube in waves which started light years away. And the fight lasted hours in a running fight at warp. The Defiant was already fighting and the start of the battle and it was still fighting at the end of the battle.
Damn it! I hate it when people show me how movies that I actually like are a bit crap and not as good as I thought they were. Not to get too scientific but the point you made about the moons gravitational field obscuring the enterprise’s warp signature got me wondering why Saturn and Jupiter’s much larger gravitational influence don’t obscure any and all warp signatures?!?!
Either Picard still has a borg implant inside his brain, or he is just straight up missing a part of his brain. It was stated in an episode of TNG that the federation can’t replicate brain tissue, they are currently only able to replace dying brain matter with cybernetic replacements. Doing that to replace a borg implant would be counterintuitive and reckless.
Delta Assault I don’t know anything about seven of nine but could it have something to do with the fact that Picard was only assimilated for a couple of days?
7 of 9 doesn’t count. It’s specifically stated that she is a conglomerate of 20+ personalities that happened to have been occupying the drone at the time that it was separated from the collective. Anika is only the body and a small part of the personality of 7. She’s not Anika, as she states several times, she is borg.
Perhaps it makes sense if you think of it as Picard still in the Nexus. It explains away all plot inconsistencies and even removes the pointless death of Captain Kirk. All Star Trek since 1994 is simply Picard in the Nexus!! Ronald D. Moore is a genius!!!!!!
I'm going to throw a theory out there. I think the reason the Borg's plan doesn't make sense in the old sense of how the Borg operate is because the Borg are testing, experimenting with something they adapted from Starfleet, command structure. They invented the Borg Queen as a "Captain" of sorts and the reason they only sent one Cube to Earth and it happened to have this "Queen" on it was to test her effectiveness in the same way the Borg test everything. Starfleet had be regularly handing the Borg their asses in combat so I'd guess they're trying out and experimenting with these ideas of command structures because of how effective the UFP seemed to be against their cubes. So to me, First Contact was the first time the Borg tried out a new strategy to assimilate the UFP but it was flawed because they focused on Data and had no idea Data would remain loyal, a trait that's still unfamiliar to them. (Remember the Queen even mentioned "human traits" to Data, so they're obviously studying them) Notice how confused Data was at the Borg having a "Queen" and how easily he defeated her by simply lying to her. I think she was genuinely a prototype of an idea. When Janeway encountered her, I think it was mostly just fanservice but I also think that in-canon, the Borg were struggling at that point because assimilation wasn't working. The Klingons, the Romulans, Species 8472, they all resisted and it worked. I think the Borg weren't the unstoppable villains they were portrayed to be, because of their very nature. RANT OVER
Honestly, once they introduced the Borg queen, the coolness and grandness and inscrutable nature of the Borg was deflated. They were so much cooler without her. Plus they made her like a vindictive bitch which just makes no sense to me.
@@princejellyfish3945 Yes they became defanged much like the Klingons were in TNG. Ronald D. Moore has a special talent for doing this with antagonists.
The moon thing... It was my understanding that the Vulcans detected the Phoenix because the warp drive was engaged. At that time, the Enterprise was not using its warp drive, so the Vulcans didn't notice it, and wouldn't, until they got closer. The older ships would have taken some time to get there, and in that time, the Enterprise moved to a position near the Moon (probably over a pole, which we know will obscure even modern sensors). Granted, they didn't SAY any of that, but I understood it from the way the scenes were shot and paced.
@@Jooooger Certainly, the moon does have a magnetic field, though weaker than Earth, and not dipolar (which I suspect is what you mean, since positioning over a pole wouldn't be possible, magnetically speaking).
My assumption was that TNG would have translated beautifully to the big screen, but Hollywood is terrified of the idea that people might want something that isn't just flashing fight scenes and explosions. They therefore tried to appeal to the lowest common denominator and failed spectacularly, until they came to the conclusion that clearly people don't like Star Trek anymore. Just look at Wrath of Khan. You can make a good Star Trek movie, it's just that it won't appeal to everyone.
I would've loved a Romulan Political Thriller film in the same vein as The Defector, Unification, Face of the Enemy or even Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges from DS9.
I would've taken a TNG master and commander movie in space. Like the Enterprise is sent into deep ass space to hunt down a rogue Captain who steals a prototype ship with terroristic plans to start a war against the Romulans. Maybe with hints of Dr. Strangelove, but minus the jokes.
As any true Star Trek fan would know, Vulcan has no Moon. So it makes perfect sense why their ship's scanners wouldn't be calibrated to detect a ship attempting to cloak their signature with a Moon's Gravitational Field. Now every point made in this review is moot.
My own personal theory as to why Picard in First Contact is so unstable around the Borg is because the Borg "voices" he's hear are influencing him. And the reason why Picard wasn't affected in Descent was because those Borg weren't part of the Collective.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Hey, Ronald D. Moore is a genius. He defanged the Klingons and made them a joke in TNG and broke his own rules to end his own show, Battlestar Galactica.
Did they ever explain how Picard is able to hear Borg voices? Like, this is supposed to be Star Trek, you can't just pull out some magic BS like that. Did he still have borg implants or something? Wtf? I haven't watched this movie in decades so I don't remember if it had an explanation.
Remember this about how great TNG was but how shitty the movies were... And now the Picard show... I think Picard would be correct in again quoting, "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all..."
It's an EVA port in a service corridor junction. You can enter and exit the ship for maintenance purposes though that hatch. Kinda like a moon pool in the bottom of an ocean vessel. I think the fact that it has a shutter leads people to think its just a power window with no glass, but that wouldn't really make any sense, would it?
Unfortunately, I have to separate TV TNG and Movie TNG. TV TNG is an exploration of humanity while traipsing (trekking?) across the galaxy. Movie TNG is lasers and shit beholden to popcorn movie standards. If I just watch the movies as fun sci-fi romps then everything's fine. Trying to bridge the two is... futile. I couldn't not put that.
I love this movie, so I was hesitant to watch this after what you did to the Star Wars prequels. A dozen good laughs and lots of smiling and nodding later, I’m glad I took a chance.
@@Numenorean921 To each their own I guess. I think he made some good points about the stupidity of the Borg, and about Picard in the movies acting very differently from Picard in the show. My favorite was “No! We can’t fire near the deflector!” - cut to Picard shooting directly at the deflector.
Nope he makes very good points. Anyone who’s actually watched the tv show can see how tv show Picard is completely different from First Contact action hero Picard.
I like all the TNG movies and I find the Star Wars prequels all fine (yes I recognise the badness but I don't find it causes me to hate the movies). These reviews are hilarious and I just consider it fun satire lol
To answer the hole in the bottom of the ship. That could be an auxiliary entrance exit. Like for space walks. The door to the room could have been an airlock chamber, full of decontamination systems. It could also be that theyre on the same level as the borg in that shot. In the next they move up a deck and can walk freely down the halls. Why am I answering it? Because I think it's neet imagining how a random room like that works.
That weird room with the window could be used as a section to depressaurize a certain section of the ship with certain doors and blast window all opening in case of fires or any unwanted intruders in that section. Probably not, but that's the only use I can see of it being there.
The Federation spends all its money on welfare for lazy Tellarites who don't want to work and they don't have enough left over for their military. Make the Federation great again!
@@a.hollins8691 haha ;), Federation is post scarcity civilization so there is no money. The only constrain are the resources and work force. Is there any Orange skin race which could propose candidate for president?
I still think the useless room is just a fire escape. Like if the ship crashes onto a planet, people can get out that door. Explains why it's either closed or forcefield window.
Not very wheelchair accessible for an emergency exit that everyone has to enter through a tiny hole in the wall. Like what if you’re trying to get a wounded guy on a stretcher out
I agree with most of this, so I'll point out that one of the features of the Sovereign class is that I can time its Transporters with its Shields in such a way that they can transport through their shields. Not a decision I would have made as a writer, however as a technological progression it does make sense
The main issue he skipped over: Voyager established there was a Time Police force, which, and correct me if I'm wrong, they MIGHT have noticed the ENTIRE FEDERATION was erased from the timeline.
Everyone yelled at Picard to do the self destruct and abandon ship but then since Picard stays we find out the borg just would have shut it off and then humanity would have been screwed. Like how did they not think that was a possibility.
At times beaming through shields has been shown as possible if you know the shield frequency. If course many other times they could not beam people up if their shields were raised.
The annoying thing about this movie is that it was originally planned to have the borg battle with starfleet to be 15/20+ mins longer but they cut it due to budgets and it was originally supposed to travel back to the renaissance era and Picard and data were supposed to stay on earth with Da vinci whilst riker fights the borg on the Enterprise. They couldnt really have Sisko on the defiant as this was a tng movie. Some have suggested that Sisko could have been severely injured and spent most of the movie on the floor of the Enterprise bridge paralysed but i doubt siskos actor would have agreed to that.
How cool would've been if this movie was a TNG/DS9 crossover? Replace Lily with Sisko, have the Defiant travel through time alongside the Enterprise, ditch the Borg Queen and finish the movie with a space battle against one or two Borg cubes.
I think, for ALL time travel stories, you have to assume "multiverse" theory from the start. With multiverses, there is basically no logical problem at all. Physical problems still abound, but no logical ones.
Not that it matters in a movie like this, but the idea of the Borg cube having a critical weak spot like the Death Star directly goes against the entire point of the Borg thematically and technologically. They don't HAVE crucial parts, everything about their culture and tech is redundant, adaptive and replaceable.
The room Plinkett complains about in Part 14, and the blast door with the forcefield is apparently for docking those little shuttlepods like the one seen during the spacedock sequence in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Considering how much Mike likes TMP, it's actually pretty surprising he neither realized this immediately, nor was able to eventually figure it out while writing his review. There's still no good reason for Picard and Lily to exit the room via the jeffries tube instead of a normal door, though.
First Contact is the beginning of the end of Star Trek as a thoughtful and intelligent franchise, and the start of it degenerating into the depressing action schlock that it is today. Prove me wrong.
No, that was actually the Wrath of Khan, the first and last time action schlock in Star Trek was good and the entire reason they decided to go forward with it for every single TNG movie.
I think this was an amazing movie. Tng episodes are in a league of their own. But generations and first contact close second... compare to the crap today its a masterpiece
What??!! Generations is terrible haha, it somehow manages to shit on Picard and Kirk simultaneously It's just action shlock And yet you're not wrong, still better than new trek hahaha
I cannot understand your viewpoint. This movie made me near physically violent with how nonsensical it is. I'm not sure about you but the main reason I watch Star Trek is because it once valued making sense.
The only way the Defiant's presence in the battle makes sense is if the events of First Contact take place during the Dominion occupation of DS9. Even then, wasn't Worf serving with Martok. It's probably better to just accept the movies take place in a separate timeline.
Nah this is a full year before the Dominion War kicks off haha. Sisko even references this in a season 5 episode, "the last Borg attack has stretched us pretty thin" or something quite similar. DS9 crew might have been assigned to patrolling Cardassian border to make sure they don't exploit situation same way Enterprise E is assigned to Romulan neutral zone first few minutes of the movie.
I liked First Contact when it came out, but it hasn't aged well. Insurrection felt the most like the TV show, but not a particularly good episode. However, Nemesis is by far the worst. I don't understand why they decided to link Star Trek Picard so heavily to that movie. It's the one I most want to forget. None of the TNG movies were as good as even the average TNG TV episodes, so there is no reason to watch any of them.
They linked Picard to that movie to retconn some stuff, ie B4 didnt become Data, give Data a better "death". Plus, Picard leaned more on the 2009 Trek movie, specifically the Romulan supernova more than they did Nemesis.
Are you joking? It's the one that has aged the best. It's the most stunning looking star trek movie that's ever been made. The special effects are second to none in the franchise, thanks to its perfect mix of physical and digital rendering.
I love how much effort was put into the jeffries tube room, it felt like a good 3-5 minutes. You the set had a double door behind the control panel that you can see in behind the scenes shots :) Obviously when it was filmed, teh angle wasn't necessary for the scene.
My head canon about the Defiant mid-battle beaming is that new technology allows friendly ships to beam through each others' shields. (They know the harmonic frequency). Also, because of this, beaming survivors from damaged ships is done immediately without needing specific orders. Picard's specific orders (to transporter room 3, because 1 and 2 were busy beaming other survivors) were because he knew Worf was on the Defiant. For everything else ... I got nothing, lol.
Id like to think that the borg did calculations, like in VOY "year of hell" Deeming that to be the time and place to be the least damaging to their own history. Secondly I would love to see Star Trek Borg/Zombie type movies about the timeline where they did conquer earth. But it could also be set during during now. I think it would be fun. And please dont count the Pilot of Lower decks. Thats not what I mean, I mean a full on Horror Sci Fi.
One thing I think all Trekkies AND writers alike overlook is the fact that Starfleet as we see it, are made up of earth based ships, but the other members of the Federation have their own fleets(at least that how I understand it). I highly doubt Vulcan and Andoria would have failed to show up, and hell probably Klingons. If anyone has any insight into why we never see any other planets fleets please let me know. Or is every ship of the Federation part of Starfleet.
The only ships that member worlds possess are civilian. As soon as you become part of the UFP, your military organisation is absorbed into Starfleet, and that includes any and all useful technology fielded by said military. That's one of the reasons Starfleet ships are so super advanced, they're an amalgamation of every member worlds contribution. This is also why we see things like Vulcan ships mothballed at surplus depots. And remember, not every Federation ship is Starfleet, but every Starfleet ship is Federation, and as far as general identification is concerned, any time they refer to a ship as "federation", it could be any one of the member worlds civilian vessels, a starfleet ship, or a Terran built non-Starfleet ship.
Think of it like this: An American car is an American car, regardless of which state it's built in. It's still a product of the USA, using components supplied by many different manufacturers.
@@Where_we_go I appreciate that insight. What you said isn't confusing, but in the context of how the Trek Cannon works, that is definitely confusing. When Starfleet was only Earth in ENT, I thought that it lead to Starfleet being Earths exclusive fleet, but I never actually had any Cannon to back it up. it was just my own thoughts. .
What a waste of 3 quantum torpedoes. These torpedoes were designed to destroy Borg! A single photon torpedo would have been more than enough to take out the Phoenix.
First Contact is all about evolving. Being better, the Borg trying to evolve, humanity leaving behind war and poverty to join an interstellar community ect, and Picard learns to be better too. Watching Generations and First Contact back to back, "Movie Picard" makes much more sense as a charecter. He's someone who's lost his extended family and given up his own chance to have a family to serve Starfleet. The Picard name and lineage will die with him. So what is the point in it all? It's a defining, existentialist moment that he doesn't really recover from until Lilly chastises him with "Captain Ahab has to hunt his Whale." In that scene, he realises that like Ahab, he's unable to accept loss, that he has filled his void with revenge. And he choses to "evolve".
Picard went from being a intelligent, respected and cultured man who liked reading Shakespeare and always sought to take the peaceful route whenever possible in TNG, to a violet, brash and spouting cliche one liners and riding around in dune buggies in the movies, to finally a cowardly, submissive and weak old man who fantasied about Data in ST: Picard.
This is like a warm blanket.
I DID see First contact in theaters with my dad and enjoyed it as a kid.
And suddenly Worf has a purple space bazooka.
"Purple space bazooka" was Jadzia Dax's pet name for Worf's dick.
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@Sam Evan yup, I have been watching on Flixzone} for months myself =)
@@TerrenceNowicki Which one?
28:44
I can’t believe he didn’t even mention when Dr Cochrane dropped the line:
“you’re all astronauts… on some kind of star trek!”
I had to be rushed to the hospital for all the muscles I'd torn for cringing at that line.
@@horaciosi If THAT makes you cringe that hard, then you must've been hospitalized half your life, considering that even the most inconsequential details must make you cringe. Don't blame the line for your preexisting condition.
@@imfsresidentotaku9699 No he's right. Many were rushed to the infirmary after that line. It's objectively worse than the death of a close family member.
@@Chromeberd Was about to argue with this, but it's objective so I can't. Sorry for your loss. x
Bravo Frakes
“Clothes? What? Who said that? Do you need SHOES?” That entire segment may be the funniest thing I’ve ever heard Plinkett say.
For me, the best segment wasn’t his disgusting shooting the tanks and engineering. I almost pissed myself with the close-ups of. Security guard
They should crash the Enterprise into the Borg cube at warp 9. Don't remember where I've seen that maneuver done before but it seems a good idea...
Too bad the Picard Maneuver already refers to other things. Anyway I have a feeling what you're suggesting would be a one in a million kind of thing...
@@mikesully110 Sounds more like that would be a Worf manuver than a Picard one
That purple haired lesbian did it the last jedi
@@At0m1337 any reference to her being lesbian?
@@TheGamerThing yeah. Purple hair
The distorted voice on violent Picard still gets me 12 years later. 🤣
Jesus, I have never laughed harder in my life when he says “Get Out in the deep voice!”😂
AND IIIII WILL MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE!@@camschuster5947
It took 12 years!!!
Ikr! Same
I've got it! The room that Picard took Lily to is the only place on the ship the rest of the crew would allow him to practice his godawful flute playing without inciting a mutiny.
True dat: ua-cam.com/video/oiGlVUcliRI/v-deo.html
Although I think he didn't bother taking the Ressikan flute with him from the Enterprise-D's wreckage. He also threw away the Kurlan Naikos.
@@IblameBlame Thanks for the video Blame, it was hilarious! I needed a good laugh.
@@IblameBlame ... the Kurgan Nachos? But what else is he going to eat?
@@TheRealNormanBates why, the children of the Enterprise's crew of course.
@@IblameBlame 🤣🤣🤣😱
Yeah, that whole "They won't attack until they consider us a threat" thing became more and more senseless and inconsistent with the passage of time. They only invented that rule in Q-Who? to give the away team (and us) a chance to look inside the Borg ship. Otherwise that scene just wouldn't have worked. But after that, the rule they'd established just became increasingly less convenient, especially once drones were suddenly capable of assimilating people on the spot. First it became more of a guideline than a rule, and eventually it seems like it was pretty much forgotten... unless it was suddenly convenient again.
By no means am I an expert on ST but couldn’t you assume once the Borg assimilated it’s first star fleet human it added them to their database and proceeded to seek them out using force in the future?
They wouldn't have rubber pipes hanging off their face if you want to go by realism.
If being assimilated is a step-by-step procedure as it was shown in best of both worlds, well frankly that's scarier and more horror. And more similar to the Cybermen which the Borg are clearly inspired by. Instant assimilation just doesn't seem as good from a writing perspective. Like sometimes as a Storyteller you want your protagonists as well as antagonists to lack certain advantages because you're trying to tell a good story.
The scene with the Vulcans at the end makes this movie feel way better than it actually is.
I appreciate the fact that they managed to pull such a heartwarming, optimistic scene up after two hours of brainless action and violence. It's more than Kurtzman could ever do
That was the most Star Trek scene in the entire movie.
Compared to Star Trek Picard, First Contact is fricking amazing.
[EDIT: Picard season 3 is AWESOME!]
It's the new Nu-Trek production plan: make each new iteration even more terrible than the last, so that the previous installment actually starts to look good in comparison, then fans start feeling nostalgic for the good old days when Trek didn't suck quite so much, and... voila! you've made your terrible movie liked by Star Trek fans! Now repeat.
Picard is a dog turd. A dog turd is amazing compared to picadd
@Siren I think it was almost arrogance on the part of the writers, maybe even Patrick Stewart. Sigh, Stewart and the character Picard are heroes of mine, but STP completely ruined both of them for me.
How can such poor writing and poor character interactions ever make it onto the screen?????
!00000% AGREED!!!!!! Picard was not only not Trek, it wasnt even a good show.
@Siren I blame Stewart too, they couldn't have done this without him. He should have raised objections.
Why did the plasma coolant and the tanks suddenly turn green when the Borg assimilated it? Did they put a plastic decal over the tanks or put dye in the coolant like the Chicago River on St. Patrick's Day?
Hey @Jason Fischer, let me ask you a question.. If they can dye that river green on St Patrick's Day, why can't they dye it blue the other three hundred sixty four days of the year?
@@mouse059 They probably can, but it would be stupid to do it, just like it's stupid to dye it green.
@@jasonfischer8946 ah.. it's a line from the fugitive (1993) rofl
Why green dye when yellow mixed with the blue from light refraction would still occur? Just get a few thousand dogs that drank water a vouplr hours earlier and place them at the embankment?
Also. The Borg used a more efficient and perfect grade of coolant. Where they got it from is the same thin air as where they got all the other Borg technology. Those Replicator panels don't look large enough to do anything efficiently. Unless there's a big Replicator room that's never been mentioned in all 9000 Trek episodes from the 80s and 90s. 🤪
"This is ensign Lynch."
/immediately starts digging around inside his disemboweled torso
Lmfao. Always love the editing. So smart lol.
If Ensign Lynch was assimilated anyways, what was the point of Picard shooting him? It was nothing more than just forced drama.
Is it too late to request a pizza roll?
Make that two, please
Make it three
I hope not
Never too late friends.
damn. now I want a pizza roll too
I’ve been waiting for my pizza rolls for like 9 fucking years.
I got them six months ago. They were delicious.
9:20 It's only just now that I've noticed the movie's foley artist used the exact same gunfire sounds for both Lily's gun and Picard's holodeck tommy gun.
Are you still a foley artist if you're just dragging in sound effects from a CD-ROM?
@@Nukle0n brutal
@@Nukle0n
"Are you still a foley artist if you're just dragging in sound effects from a CD-ROM?"
I'll let you decide.
But the answer is yes.
I listened to them both and im not convinced that they're the same sound effect, they both just sound like gunfire, and that always sounds the same
@alexs_toy_barn it's definitely the same sound. Different guns sound different
I still have a soft spot for this movie because it was First Contact that introduced me to the TNG era Star Trek, at that point I was only familiar with the original series.
If there was no existing lore to continually violate, this is a fantastic scifi action epic.
@@cyrollan Yeah, as a standalone movie it works fine.
@@cyrollan some plot holes, hokey vague and overblown dialogue narrative, and plot problems would remain. How many of those would dampen enjoyment would be up to the individual.
I'd probably be the same, but fortunately/unfortunately, I was exposed to First Contact after watching all 7 seasons of TNG so I literally could not stomach the movie.
Thank you for your service, you absolute legend!
The window room is clearly a room reserved for maintenance crew when they need some "Private" time alone or with other people they find attractive.
27:20 - it seems plausible, to me at least, that the blast door could be opened to allow for tubes carrying vital materials such as the flesh-melting plasma coolant to be safely loaded into the ship. This would mean that the fill valves would be secure behind a blast door so they can't be easily targeted. As for why they wouldn't load it through the cargo bay, it makes a bit more sense to use a small room for that purpose as it would be less strain on ship systems to repressurize a small room rather han a giant cargo bay.
So then worf suddenly has a purple space bazooka...
This movie is the reason I started watching TNG, I loved it when I saw it without knowing the context and the characters' behavior and motivation made sense in the context of what I later saw when I watched the show. Plus it's arguably the most beautiful Star Trek has ever looked.
Same here. Saw First Contact before ever watching TNG. It kind of made me want to see how the character of Picard seen in Encounter at Farpoint would eventually become the Picard seen in First Contact.
But the characters’ behavior and motivation didn’t make sense in the context of the show. That’s why it’s a bad movie.
@@BioGoji-zm5ph I've never quite understood the vitriol of some fans regarding the more action Picard we see in First Contact. He'd already shown he was very much capable of some action and some spurts of anger in the series. He also suffered a dramatic family tragedy in Generations and that absolutely changes you at a fundamental level. Picard I think becomes more loose and care-free from then-on and he takes more risks in terms of pushing boundaries and challenging things in a more pro-active manner. I think Insurrection especially proves that point. Nemesis smashed another hammer into to the psyche with the clone! Of course he'd be a bit miffed but he also still retained a lot of his TNG character traits too IMO.
People change and it seemed common sense to expect Picard to change in the movies. It seemed a bit more dramatic but these movies came out years apart and the series was continuing for seven years and only broke off for the actors in the summer for a few weeks, the characters changed more progressively and you don't notice it until you go back and revisit the series and you can quickly how the characters (and actors) change over time.
@@matthewburns3471 You've never quite understood it? Uh, maybe watch this video again? He explained it pretty damn well.
@@matthewburns3471 Most Star Trek fans like First Contact.
The diversion actually makes sense because you can see people still climbing into the Jeffries tube while she's talking, so she's not just wasting time. She gets in right after the last person goes in.
Then she didn't need the diversion.
@@crossstitchmatches Sure she does. It will slow down the pursuit of the Borg looking for them.
I can't believe this is happening! Keep going!
Dude, how are you doing these?! It's not just an upscaler, right? Are you going back and recutting everything from scratch?! This is insanely impressive!!
It is all recut. It should be frame for frame the same as the original or maybe equivalent for 16x9 composition. I have to redo effects and try to find the highest quality version of any images used with Tineye or google image search.
@@CopterBlue In all honesty, this is the most impressive thing I've seen on youtube in years. Solid, solid work!!
Man's using his lockdown time well.
@@CopterBlue Impressive work. Thank you!
The Lord’s Work
'Tale of Two Picard' Indeed! I've always felt the first few film Picards almost ignored any personal growth he'd gained in the series. As much as I enjoy the films, it always stands out to me. BUT, another perspective is that he's fed up with 'by the book!'
Another possibility is that Patrick Stewart is a dimwit with good posture and a great accent.
Zeke Spears Patrick Steward in this film made the writers give him Riker’s plot aboard the ship, so it’s more than safe to blame him.
Paddy wanted Picard to become an action hero using the films as his means.
It's such a shame that the only time we see the Defiant actually face a Borg cube it gets it's ass kicked. I still love this movie, but Goddamn.
Considering it was Borqg Queen's Cube, it was basically a flagship. Defiant surviving that is basically a miracle on it self as the previous Federation flagship was destroyed already.
The Defiant is only of only a few ships causing damage, the others aren’t even scratching the cube. Also, Sisko says the Defiant was supposed to be PART of a battle fleet, so I always pictured 50 of them going against a cube
@@falkenvir I hate the idea that there's a borg "queen" and that she'd have a "flagship."
Considering the Defiant got its ass kicked all the time, it's really not that surprising
It makes sense when you realize that Starfleet was attacking the Cube in waves which started light years away. And the fight lasted hours in a running fight at warp. The Defiant was already fighting and the start of the battle and it was still fighting at the end of the battle.
Damn it! I hate it when people show me how movies that I actually like are a bit crap and not as good as I thought they were. Not to get too scientific but the point you made about the moons gravitational field obscuring the enterprise’s warp signature got me wondering why Saturn and Jupiter’s much larger gravitational influence don’t obscure any and all warp signatures?!?!
Either Picard still has a borg implant inside his brain, or he is just straight up missing a part of his brain. It was stated in an episode of TNG that the federation can’t replicate brain tissue, they are currently only able to replace dying brain matter with cybernetic replacements. Doing that to replace a borg implant would be counterintuitive and reckless.
Well it’s inconsistent. Picard is unassimilated and loses all the implants on his face after The Best of Both Worlds, but Seven of Nine doesn’t.
Delta Assault I don’t know anything about seven of nine but could it have something to do with the fact that Picard was only assimilated for a couple of days?
7 of 9 doesn’t count. It’s specifically stated that she is a conglomerate of 20+ personalities that happened to have been occupying the drone at the time that it was separated from the collective. Anika is only the body and a small part of the personality of 7. She’s not Anika, as she states several times, she is borg.
Perhaps it makes sense if you think of it as Picard still in the Nexus. It explains away all plot inconsistencies and even removes the pointless death of Captain Kirk. All Star Trek since 1994 is simply Picard in the Nexus!! Ronald D. Moore is a genius!!!!!!
I'm going to throw a theory out there. I think the reason the Borg's plan doesn't make sense in the old sense of how the Borg operate is because the Borg are testing, experimenting with something they adapted from Starfleet, command structure. They invented the Borg Queen as a "Captain" of sorts and the reason they only sent one Cube to Earth and it happened to have this "Queen" on it was to test her effectiveness in the same way the Borg test everything.
Starfleet had be regularly handing the Borg their asses in combat so I'd guess they're trying out and experimenting with these ideas of command structures because of how effective the UFP seemed to be against their cubes.
So to me, First Contact was the first time the Borg tried out a new strategy to assimilate the UFP but it was flawed because they focused on Data and had no idea Data would remain loyal, a trait that's still unfamiliar to them. (Remember the Queen even mentioned "human traits" to Data, so they're obviously studying them)
Notice how confused Data was at the Borg having a "Queen" and how easily he defeated her by simply lying to her. I think she was genuinely a prototype of an idea.
When Janeway encountered her, I think it was mostly just fanservice but I also think that in-canon, the Borg were struggling at that point because assimilation wasn't working. The Klingons, the Romulans, Species 8472, they all resisted and it worked. I think the Borg weren't the unstoppable villains they were portrayed to be, because of their very nature.
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Honestly, once they introduced the Borg queen, the coolness and grandness and inscrutable nature of the Borg was deflated. They were so much cooler without her. Plus they made her like a vindictive bitch which just makes no sense to me.
@@princejellyfish3945 Yes they became defanged much like the Klingons were in TNG. Ronald D. Moore has a special talent for doing this with antagonists.
The moon thing... It was my understanding that the Vulcans detected the Phoenix because the warp drive was engaged. At that time, the Enterprise was not using its warp drive, so the Vulcans didn't notice it, and wouldn't, until they got closer. The older ships would have taken some time to get there, and in that time, the Enterprise moved to a position near the Moon (probably over a pole, which we know will obscure even modern sensors). Granted, they didn't SAY any of that, but I understood it from the way the scenes were shot and paced.
The moon doesn't have a magnetic field so positioning over a pole wouldn't help.
@@Jooooger Certainly, the moon does have a magnetic field, though weaker than Earth, and not dipolar (which I suspect is what you mean, since positioning over a pole wouldn't be possible, magnetically speaking).
@@STNeish You can't hang a ship over a planet's pole, either.
don't make excuses for this fucking movie
amazing work. I can't imagine trying to gather all of the clips from the various episodes.
The Borg Queen is such a dumb idea, as Data puts it, it’s a contradiction, why would a collective need a monarchy?
I never understood why TNG couldn’t translate onto the big screen. None of their movies were really all that good.
My assumption was that TNG would have translated beautifully to the big screen, but Hollywood is terrified of the idea that people might want something that isn't just flashing fight scenes and explosions. They therefore tried to appeal to the lowest common denominator and failed spectacularly, until they came to the conclusion that clearly people don't like Star Trek anymore.
Just look at Wrath of Khan. You can make a good Star Trek movie, it's just that it won't appeal to everyone.
I would've loved a Romulan Political Thriller film in the same vein as The Defector, Unification, Face of the Enemy or even Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges from DS9.
I could get behind that. Some kind of Romulan Parallax View conspiracy weirdness.
I would've taken a TNG master and commander movie in space. Like the Enterprise is sent into deep ass space to hunt down a rogue Captain who steals a prototype ship with terroristic plans to start a war against the Romulans. Maybe with hints of Dr. Strangelove, but minus the jokes.
This was the best one of the TNG films....let that sink in
That little room is for the crew's smoke breaks. That's why it has a window.
As any true Star Trek fan would know, Vulcan has no Moon. So it makes perfect sense why their ship's scanners wouldn't be calibrated to detect a ship attempting to cloak their signature with a Moon's Gravitational Field.
Now every point made in this review is moot.
My own personal theory as to why Picard in First Contact is so unstable around the Borg is because the Borg "voices" he's hear are influencing him.
And the reason why Picard wasn't affected in Descent was because those Borg weren't part of the Collective.
The writers were not that clever.
@@ricardocantoral7672 Hey, Ronald D. Moore is a genius. He defanged the Klingons and made them a joke in TNG and broke his own rules to end his own show, Battlestar Galactica.
Did they ever explain how Picard is able to hear Borg voices? Like, this is supposed to be Star Trek, you can't just pull out some magic BS like that. Did he still have borg implants or something? Wtf?
I haven't watched this movie in decades so I don't remember if it had an explanation.
Watch star trek Picard S3 to find out@@augustday9483
No need to explain descent nobody remembers it not even the writers
Remember this about how great TNG was but how shitty the movies were... And now the Picard show... I think Picard would be correct in again quoting, "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all..."
Now explain herpes.
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holy crap this is awesome. how is this channel not more popular. Fantastic job.. I really hope you'll be able to get to Revenge of the Sith soon.
So has anyone worked out what that little room is for yet since this review came out?
I think it's Picard's secret shack up room, but that's only a guess.
Lol its gotta be an execution chamber
Crew members get send there for punishment. They have to keep the window open and then the Bridge pretends to be in a battle for a few hours.
No idea here but the execution room idea seems okay I suppose. Still ridiculously stupid.
It's an EVA port in a service corridor junction. You can enter and exit the ship for maintenance purposes though that hatch. Kinda like a moon pool in the bottom of an ocean vessel. I think the fact that it has a shutter leads people to think its just a power window with no glass, but that wouldn't really make any sense, would it?
There are THREE Picards!
Unfortunately, I have to separate TV TNG and Movie TNG. TV TNG is an exploration of humanity while traipsing (trekking?) across the galaxy. Movie TNG is lasers and shit beholden to popcorn movie standards. If I just watch the movies as fun sci-fi romps then everything's fine. Trying to bridge the two is... futile. I couldn't not put that.
_Star Trek: Picarbage_ is a romp through a toilet in a junkyard.
Movie TOS managed to have a good balance which stayed true to the show. Well... the good Movie TOS, I mean.
I love this movie, so I was hesitant to watch this after what you did to the Star Wars prequels. A dozen good laughs and lots of smiling and nodding later, I’m glad I took a chance.
I don't know man, it kind of made me mad. I don't think a lot of his points were very good, in fact they are quite whiney and nitpicky.
@@Numenorean921 To each their own I guess. I think he made some good points about the stupidity of the Borg, and about Picard in the movies acting very differently from Picard in the show. My favorite was “No! We can’t fire near the deflector!” - cut to Picard shooting directly at the deflector.
@@Numenorean921 true!
Nope he makes very good points. Anyone who’s actually watched the tv show can see how tv show Picard is completely different from First Contact action hero Picard.
I like all the TNG movies and I find the Star Wars prequels all fine (yes I recognise the badness but I don't find it causes me to hate the movies). These reviews are hilarious and I just consider it fun satire lol
HOW DID YOU DO THIS ? DID YOU DO THE WHOLE VIDEO FROM SCRATCH ?
he did
I love that room accessed by the hole in the wall, it's like the Enterprise's version of a pillow fort. I'd love to be the guy assigned to it.
To answer the hole in the bottom of the ship. That could be an auxiliary entrance exit. Like for space walks. The door to the room could have been an airlock chamber, full of decontamination systems. It could also be that theyre on the same level as the borg in that shot. In the next they move up a deck and can walk freely down the halls.
Why am I answering it? Because I think it's neet imagining how a random room like that works.
Wait! Did you call him "Zefram Cockring"?
I cant wait to see this remade in 4K when Paramount releases First Contact and doesn't give it a gross filter over it like the 1080 release.
These videos just showed up in my feed. The remastering work looks wonderful. Cheers. 😉
That weird room with the window could be used as a section to depressaurize a certain section of the ship with certain doors and blast window all opening in case of fires or any unwanted intruders in that section. Probably not, but that's the only use I can see of it being there.
There should be 100 Defiant ships there.
The Federation spends all its money on welfare for lazy Tellarites who don't want to work and they don't have enough left over for their military. Make the Federation great again!
@@a.hollins8691 haha ;), Federation is post scarcity civilization so there is no money. The only constrain are the resources and work force. Is there any Orange skin race which could propose candidate for president?
@@a.hollins8691 telleriites are the Mexicans of the future
I still think the useless room is just a fire escape. Like if the ship crashes onto a planet, people can get out that door. Explains why it's either closed or forcefield window.
But the holr in the wall hopefully goes to a pressure door. 😬
Not very wheelchair accessible for an emergency exit that everyone has to enter through a tiny hole in the wall. Like what if you’re trying to get a wounded guy on a stretcher out
25:02 this is where they conduct the final test for the transporter Chief position.
28:08 .... that’s Rich’s grandma, isn’t it?
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I agree with most of this, so I'll point out that one of the features of the Sovereign class is that I can time its Transporters with its Shields in such a way that they can transport through their shields. Not a decision I would have made as a writer, however as a technological progression it does make sense
I just found these! Soooo good! Thank you for your awesome work!
These remasters are excellent, thank you so much for putting them together
The main issue he skipped over: Voyager established there was a Time Police force, which, and correct me if I'm wrong, they MIGHT have noticed the ENTIRE FEDERATION was erased from the timeline.
Didn't Worf live inside the Defiant? That was his apartment.
Everyone yelled at Picard to do the self destruct and abandon ship but then since Picard stays we find out the borg just would have shut it off and then humanity would have been screwed. Like how did they not think that was a possibility.
"And that guy. Who is that guy?"
Adam Scott! I forgot he was in First Contact!
Dude, I keep sending you my email but I never get any of those pizza rolls.
At times beaming through shields has been shown as possible if you know the shield frequency. If course many other times they could not beam people up if their shields were raised.
The movies tend to be problematic due to things done to cater to the general "non-trekkie" audience.
Oh, and pizza roll me!
The annoying thing about this movie is that it was originally planned to have the borg battle with starfleet to be 15/20+ mins longer but they cut it due to budgets and it was originally supposed to travel back to the renaissance era and Picard and data were supposed to stay on earth with Da vinci whilst riker fights the borg on the Enterprise. They couldnt really have Sisko on the defiant as this was a tng movie. Some have suggested that Sisko could have been severely injured and spent most of the movie on the floor of the Enterprise bridge paralysed but i doubt siskos actor would have agreed to that.
How cool would've been if this movie was a TNG/DS9 crossover? Replace Lily with Sisko, have the Defiant travel through time alongside the Enterprise, ditch the Borg Queen and finish the movie with a space battle against one or two Borg cubes.
"We Can't Expect Mr. Plinkett to Do All the Work"
15:20 "That's right honey pie, work that business!" Lol dead
Are the Pizza Rolls still available?
Time travel in movies like this is just mind boggling. Was the Enterprise ALWAYS pivotal at the first contact event, or just the ‘2nd’ time?
I think, for ALL time travel stories, you have to assume "multiverse" theory from the start. With multiverses, there is basically no logical problem at all. Physical problems still abound, but no logical ones.
Must've been the "just the 2nd time" option. It explains why Cohrane is so different in TOS and why he was shown talking about the Borg in ENT
That room is for loading and unloading small amounts of smuggled things. Damn I love these reviews.
Not that it matters in a movie like this, but the idea of the Borg cube having a critical weak spot like the Death Star directly goes against the entire point of the Borg thematically and technologically. They don't HAVE crucial parts, everything about their culture and tech is redundant, adaptive and replaceable.
I personally consider covering up the many holes in my stories with quick one liners as my main asset.
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It’s Adam Scott
The room Plinkett complains about in Part 14, and the blast door with the forcefield is apparently for docking those little shuttlepods like the one seen during the spacedock sequence in Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Considering how much Mike likes TMP, it's actually pretty surprising he neither realized this immediately, nor was able to eventually figure it out while writing his review.
There's still no good reason for Picard and Lily to exit the room via the jeffries tube instead of a normal door, though.
You, Sir, are a hero and a scholar.
worf is a klingon, of course he cares about his ship.
he cares enough to ram it into the enemy's bow
He was just worried he'd get one of Sisko's hyperventilating sermons if he came back to DS9 without it.
I was into star wars as a kid. And I saw this and really liked it
26:03 This always blindsides me
The times, they are a' changin'
Thanks so much for making these! They look great.
has anyone dared to ask for a pizza roll yet?
Your channel is so underrated
First Contact is the beginning of the end of Star Trek as a thoughtful and intelligent franchise, and the start of it degenerating into the depressing action schlock that it is today.
Prove me wrong.
No, that was actually the Wrath of Khan, the first and last time action schlock in Star Trek was good and the entire reason they decided to go forward with it for every single TNG movie.
I think this was an amazing movie. Tng episodes are in a league of their own. But generations and first contact close second... compare to the crap today its a masterpiece
What??!! Generations is terrible haha, it somehow manages to shit on Picard and Kirk simultaneously
It's just action shlock
And yet you're not wrong, still better than new trek hahaha
@@KaladinVegapunk generations is not better than jj abrams trek, it's better than discovery and picard tho
I cannot understand your viewpoint. This movie made me near physically violent with how nonsensical it is. I'm not sure about you but the main reason I watch Star Trek is because it once valued making sense.
One thing I always wondered was why the borg queen wears lipstick.
It's like uhhh nanobots and shit under her skin coincidentally resembling a woman's makeup
Wow dude. Great job on remastering this. Hopefully RLM themselves have seen this and given you a shout out.
The only way the Defiant's presence in the battle makes sense is if the events of First Contact take place during the Dominion occupation of DS9. Even then, wasn't Worf serving with Martok. It's probably better to just accept the movies take place in a separate timeline.
Nah this is a full year before the Dominion War kicks off haha. Sisko even references this in a season 5 episode, "the last Borg attack has stretched us pretty thin" or something quite similar. DS9 crew might have been assigned to patrolling Cardassian border to make sure they don't exploit situation same way Enterprise E is assigned to Romulan neutral zone first few minutes of the movie.
I liked First Contact when it came out, but it hasn't aged well. Insurrection felt the most like the TV show, but not a particularly good episode. However, Nemesis is by far the worst. I don't understand why they decided to link Star Trek Picard so heavily to that movie. It's the one I most want to forget. None of the TNG movies were as good as even the average TNG TV episodes, so there is no reason to watch any of them.
They linked Picard to that movie to retconn some stuff, ie B4 didnt become Data, give Data a better "death". Plus, Picard leaned more on the 2009 Trek movie, specifically the Romulan supernova more than they did Nemesis.
Are you joking? It's the one that has aged the best. It's the most stunning looking star trek movie that's ever been made. The special effects are second to none in the franchise, thanks to its perfect mix of physical and digital rendering.
Unfortunately, both Generations & First Contact are important to understanding some plot points in DS9 and especially VOY.
Yes, but what KIND of pizza roll? The sausage ones repeat on me...
I love how much effort was put into the jeffries tube room, it felt like a good 3-5 minutes.
You the set had a double door behind the control panel that you can see in behind the scenes shots :) Obviously when it was filmed, teh angle wasn't necessary for the scene.
My head canon about the Defiant mid-battle beaming is that new technology allows friendly ships to beam through each others' shields. (They know the harmonic frequency). Also, because of this, beaming survivors from damaged ships is done immediately without needing specific orders. Picard's specific orders (to transporter room 3, because 1 and 2 were busy beaming other survivors) were because he knew Worf was on the Defiant.
For everything else ... I got nothing, lol.
Huge fan of Star trek and First contact. But THIS ?!! This is the best review i ever saw even over 15 years after the movie release. Soooo good !!
Id like to think that the borg did calculations, like in VOY "year of hell" Deeming that to be the time and place to be the least damaging to their own history.
Secondly I would love to see Star Trek Borg/Zombie type movies about the timeline where they did conquer earth. But it could also be set during during now. I think it would be fun. And please dont count the Pilot of Lower decks. Thats not what I mean, I mean a full on Horror Sci Fi.
That would make for a killer comic run.
This is honestly the only Plinkett Star Trek review that actually made me change my feelings for the film.
One thing I think all Trekkies AND writers alike overlook is the fact that Starfleet as we see it, are made up of earth based ships, but the other members of the Federation have their own fleets(at least that how I understand it). I highly doubt Vulcan and Andoria would have failed to show up, and hell probably Klingons. If anyone has any insight into why we never see any other planets fleets please let me know. Or is every ship of the Federation part of Starfleet.
The only ships that member worlds possess are civilian. As soon as you become part of the UFP, your military organisation is absorbed into Starfleet, and that includes any and all useful technology fielded by said military. That's one of the reasons Starfleet ships are so super advanced, they're an amalgamation of every member worlds contribution. This is also why we see things like Vulcan ships mothballed at surplus depots. And remember, not every Federation ship is Starfleet, but every Starfleet ship is Federation, and as far as general identification is concerned, any time they refer to a ship as "federation", it could be any one of the member worlds civilian vessels, a starfleet ship, or a Terran built non-Starfleet ship.
Think of it like this: An American car is an American car, regardless of which state it's built in. It's still a product of the USA, using components supplied by many different manufacturers.
@@Where_we_go I appreciate that insight. What you said isn't confusing, but in the context of how the Trek Cannon works, that is definitely confusing. When Starfleet was only Earth in ENT, I thought that it lead to Starfleet being Earths exclusive fleet, but I never actually had any Cannon to back it up. it was just my own thoughts. .
No Odo 😂
What a waste of 3 quantum torpedoes. These torpedoes were designed to destroy Borg! A single photon torpedo would have been more than enough to take out the Phoenix.
First Contact is all about evolving. Being better, the Borg trying to evolve, humanity leaving behind war and poverty to join an interstellar community ect, and Picard learns to be better too.
Watching Generations and First Contact back to back, "Movie Picard" makes much more sense as a charecter. He's someone who's lost his extended family and given up his own chance to have a family to serve Starfleet. The Picard name and lineage will die with him. So what is the point in it all?
It's a defining, existentialist moment that he doesn't really recover from until Lilly chastises him with "Captain Ahab has to hunt his Whale." In that scene, he realises that like Ahab, he's unable to accept loss, that he has filled his void with revenge. And he choses to "evolve".
Also, 21:22
I spit out my beer with Bea Arthur as Odo.
Ramming speed? What is this, Ben Hur or something?
Not a Trek fan but I guess you could say the movies and TV are two different timlines hence the "two picards"?
Oh, Mike. If only you knew how different Picard is going to be in a few years...
Picard went from being a intelligent, respected and cultured man who liked reading Shakespeare and always sought to take the peaceful route whenever possible in TNG, to a violet, brash and spouting cliche one liners and riding around in dune buggies in the movies, to finally a cowardly, submissive and weak old man who fantasied about Data in ST: Picard.