I think both sides are right about this. They did use exotic animals for money, and entertainment. But they also obviously care for them. He makes that clear with his willingness to lie about what happened, in an effort to convince people it was an accident. Even in the hospital, he did everything he could to prevent the tiger from being euthanized. It almost killed him, and left him partially paralyzed, and he still protected the tiger. You don't do that for something, or someone, you don't care about.
+pustulio81 They did love the tigers so much they were like a family into the family business, you can see how they always treated them with love and respect, and even more, , it was "a thing of soul" they had a real connection, never controlled the tigers, they had a natural relationship..Why the success, If those tigers had been out in the real world no doubt some greedy human low life, had killed them in the worst inhumane way for greed! IMO Look what happened to Cecil.. Thank God nowadays we know about things like that happening, but back in the day we had no way to know and people like Siegfried and Roy were and are a blessing.
+STILLDecibel Fuck you with the "look what happened to Cecil," bullshit. Cecil the lion was a fucking terror that haunted native villagers for a very long time. The media shit storm against that dentist was unfair and, quite frankly, ridiculous. Hunting excursions like that are actually a benefit to the lion population as killing "Cecil" prevents that big bully lion from eating the cubs of other families. There is population control at work here that you obviously do not understand. No one gave two shits about Cecil until the media blew it out of proportion. Keep buying into whatever lame political agenda the media is shoving down your throat... You're a sheep.
+Drew Richards What did you expect a lion to do?. That lion only "terrorized" the villages, because that is how WE label it. Cecil, as with every lion, has no idea what "terrorize" even means. Cecil was being a lion. Nothing more, nothing less. Keep that "terrorize" shit where it belongs. Directed toward the animals that created the concept: "humans". WE invaded THEIR home, not the other way around.
You guys say that from the safety of your professionally constructed home, in the middle of a country that has done exactly the same thing to all the natural inhabitants. If you feel so fucking strongly about the sanctity of that one lion's life (a lion you didn't even know existed until the media jumped on Walter Palmer), go live in the villages in Africa and we'll see how you feel when it kills your family, or close friends. What are those people to do? They were born into a shitty situation and don't have the means to leave? Should they just kill themselves? Just accept defeat? What if the first humans did that tens of thousands of years ago? We wouldn't be here to argue about the life of one, relatively insignificant, lion in Africa. You people really just don't get it. Killing those lions IS a conservation effort. Not to mention the money from the hunt going to preserve and help the species, as a whole, that loses that member. I'm not a hunter and haven't even killed an animal accidentally in my car, so don't label me a murderer. But that doesn't mean I am as ignorant, misinformed, and gullible as you ridiculous people calling for my head and calling me a bad person.
The tiger attacked him, not because he was a bad animal, but because he was an unpredictable wild animal. Roy tries to romanticize the event but we all know what happened. No one is to blame. It is a risk when working with potentially dangerous animals.
TE S you seem to be a know it all and I feel sorry for you bro. Roy has no reason to lie or romanticize anything . It's sad that you or anyone would say such a thing to be a negative light to others
I agree. Eye witness accounts differ regarding exactly when the tiger went for his neck. Some say the tiger bit his neck before he went down and some say it happened after but in all accounts everyone agrees that the tiger was attacking him before he went down. I tend to think his going down and the tiger biting him happened simultaneously and this is the reason for the confusion. I think these 2 really loved the tiger and didn't want to admit that their beloved animal almost killed one of them but that tiger was on the attack before the bite to the neck.
Go Patriots Knox He has no reason to romanticize it? Lmao you're just as full of shit as he is. There's no way someone who was owning a wild animal and exploiting it on stage for that long would lie about the animal attacking him? Grow up.
Tiger was just performing surgery to relieve the pressure in Roy's head. I mean he saved Roy's life, nobody should insinuate otherwise. Roy doesnt sound like a defensive father protecting his child from persecution. And yeah I know what you mean Tigers instinctively sense intracranial pressure and thus this tiger knew exactly what to do, this was not his first rodeo.
@@rustyboone1434 Your condescending tone is nothing but annoying, not smart, not funny, just annoying. The point is, the tiger was not trying to kill Roy, otherwise he would've been very dead. We'll never know what really caused it.
Bless his soul. Romanticizing the attack on a level I can only smile and shake my head at. I’m a zoologist. It truly takes discipline to not anthropomorphize an animal. Especially after raising them from an abandoned baby to adult. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND! But holy shit Roy (RIP) That’s a doozy you were trying to get the public to swallow. “He saved your life by severing your carotid & relieving the pressure”! You truly did take everything that one extra mile! RIP ROY, You survived Montecore only to die from Covid. RIP Sigfried, pancreatic cancer is a monster. You’re no longer in pain. RIP Montecore, You Beautiful creature! You definitely left your legacy and will ALL be missed. ❤️
I love all that you have written the very best!! You brought attention to the family they were and their bond. The unfortunate incident that took place, Roy knew what the deal was and Montecore was not going to be done away with over it. Siegfried shared the same feelings and insight. ANYHOW...you expressed it the best. As I think about it, it's sort of like a love story❤
Way to go Natalie, you some did all of! I remember growing up watching my mom being interested in sick freedom Roy and the incredible of putting big animals like this in captivity but she also enjoyed the Marvel of animals being able to behave long enough to do these shows Because she had a love of animals. Thank you for Speaking your mind better than I can put into words LOL! And yes rest in peace to these 2 guys, they brought a lot of joy and wonderment to people. And yes ma'am you are right there are no longer in pain according to the Bible ecclesiastes 9:5 The dead know nothing at all, they are not in pain.
+Silentevil7 You are wrong. Animals act in many ways that humans don't understand. In my work as an interspecies communicator, I have received explanations many people would find confusing or difficult to believe. I am a biologist who now understands how limited human understanding of other species really is. Good luck in your own search for truth.
+Silentevil7 One thing everyone that was there can agree on was the repetitive sound of the mic bashing into the tigers face as he was trying to free his left arm from the tigers mouth. I can imagine the smile on Tony the practitioners face as he whispers (this will only sting for a second).
+Ziah Von Heyneman My first point would be that without modern medicine he would have been dead three times over. Second point would be tigers like cats play with there pray. Third Your point would be that know one has ever lived though a tiger attack which is false. He was not attacked for food as the tiger would not have even been hungry and only attacked out of freight much like many wild animals do. Id hate to ask what logic brought you to the concussion that the tiger knows surgery.
My husband and I were at that show. What we saw happen was nothing malicious by that tiger. He acted on instinct once Roy lost his footing and fell to the stage floor. What all big cats do: prey is down, they grab the neck and drag. However what preceded that was an unhappy big cat who was being disciplined by Roy because he began growling at Roy which was a no-no as they has raised him. Roy tapped the Tiger on his head with the microphone, then the Tiger grabbed his arm (no bite marks, no blood) as the cat's large mouth surrounded his arm. As Roy tried to yank his arm out of the Tiger's mouth, he was also hitting him on the top of the head with the microphone to get him to open his mouth off of his arm. At that point in time Roy lost his footing and slipped to the stage floor, at which time the Tiger acted on instinct and grabbed him by the neck and dragged him to the back of the stage behind the curtain.
It's clear by your comment and many others along with eye-witnesses that this man overestimated his ability to control the animal. Instinct, indeed, kicked in which is what makes predators ALWAYS predators. Dogs have been bred to serve humans for thousands of years but even they will attack a human under the right circumstances. One thing is certain; humans continue to anthropomorphize animals believing they are far more intelligent (and therefore, disciplined) than they actually are. Toddler steps on dog's tail. Dog feels pain. Dog attacks child. It's survival instinct. It doesn't happen every time. But it happens and this tiger attack was an unfortunate but perfect example of the foolishness of sentimental humans.
In most part you are right, although i have trained a lot of dogs that I would put my hand in a fire for, and can guarantee that they would never attack me. That being said I am the one taking that risk, but would never push it on someone else, especially a child (that is just dumb and careless). You have to always be cautious when dealing with animals as you should when dealing with humans. Cheers
psbintl Thank you for that account. I have always wanted to see the footage of the incident to judge for myself. This is the next best thing. Could it have been that the growl was the cat signalling Roy that something was amiss? Animals can sense epileptic seizures coming on, and the tiger may have sensed the stroke.
@@Edax_Royeaux Most dogs love living with people but there are some that prefer living free /wild. We should respect that rather then scoping them out, render for chicken feed and commercial dog food.
@@Edax_Royeaux Certain species are easier to domesticate than others. Since we are all energy beings our evolution must be happening not just on physical but also on spiritual level. Not many seem to understand that.
@@atlas79-om1hn It's not a fact that spirituality is involved in any of this. Those that domesticated dogs believed in a wide variety of mutually exclusive religions.
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! And delight/happiness is our highest desire. Men have killed to have it. Kings have gone mad trying to find it. Wars have served it. Affairs have worshiped it. We all seek it. Sadly, billions have died without discovering its secret... namely, that joy is not an it, but a He. The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him. God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. He is the only being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the highest virtue. Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion. Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world... Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE! We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ. Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming 😊... Thanks for taking the time to read this comment. May God bless you with all things necessary for life and goodness. God Bless!
I agree with Roy's assessment. My house cat jumps on my lap and taps in the shoulder whenever my blood pressure spikes. It took me a while to figure out what he was doing, as he is not a lap cat. I finally learned my bp was spiking to stroke level. Now it is in control with meds. I know a house cat cannot be compared to a tiger, but there are animals that know about medical emergencies. Not saying this is what happened to Roy, but I can understand his belief. The tiger dragged him to his cage, as if to protect him. If he wanted to kill Roy, he would have mauled him and killed him immediately with no chance of survival.
Your cat controls the meds. That is rich. After a long time this happens. Luck runs out. Like Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend. Big animal lovers also
@@FBLA605 Why? Animals have senses that we humans find hard to comprehend. Dogs can sniff out cancer from skin, saliva, and breath (not even debatable...Scientifically proven as there are dogs trained to specialize in this). Dogs can also sense heart problems via heart rate, blood pressure, and blood sugar levels from their incredible sense of smell. Cats also have a highly developed sense of smell and can detect heart problems...They also have a great ability to read their owner's normal patterns and determine that something isn't right if your patterns/social interactions are off and may try to alert you in their own way. Again, the general human condition (much to our disadvantage) is to disregard things we can't fully understand or grasp.
My cat knows when I'm sick and will curl up in bed with me and be glued to me constantly. I believe they do have a special sense because they observe us without the ability of language.
I went to visit the secret garden last may, 2014 with my friend while on vacation in vegas. seigfreid happen to have been there that day and we took pics with him. very nice gentleman, very gracious. we asked how roy was doing and about the tigers. he cares so much for these animals and it is genuine. they don't need the $.
I am unaware of if he breeds them or not. they are cared for very well from what we see. Maybe you should investigate him and bring up charges if you have nothing else to do with your life.
I recently read that one of the trainers said Roy kinda treated the tigers like props instead of giving them the respect anyone should give a 400-lbs beast of the wild with 3-inch incisors
Everything I've read says differently. Bro was obsessed with these tigers. The reason he's lying about the attack is so people don't turn on the tigers
that tiger did not think he was a tiger cub, ..plse. Roy loves these big cats so much hes willing to lie to keep the public from turning against them, but it doesnt remove the fact theyre wild and unpredictable. RIP Montecore
No kidding, I was at that show in 2003. I was 13 years old and I still remember exactly what happened. It seems like Roy has either convinced himself that he had stroke on stage or he is lying to protect the tiger/his legacy. I don't really care either way, but the fact is - Roy DID NOT pass out. Something agitated that tiger while it was on stage, Roy got between it and the audience, bopped it on the nose with the mic, and then was dragged off stage by Montecore. I clearly remember the very distinct sound the microphone made as Roy tried to discipline the tiger with that whack to the snout. Personally, I think it was the tiger trying to save Roy from some perceived threat. We can never know the true reason why that beautiful animal did what it did.
Trying to save white tigers and lions from extinction is a load of crap. Tigers are severely inbred to come out with that coloring, and suffer all kinds of genetic defects as a result. They rarely occur in the wild. And even so, the white coloring makes it impossible for them to survive in the wild, as the orange and black stripes are natural camouflage. And inbreeding for that perfect white tiger, only a few cubs will survive. The rest are too deformed and horrible things happen to them, and they are disposed of. I really wish people would really pay attention to the behind the scenes ugliness of animal exploitation. I have no doubt that this man loves his big cats. However, I wish he loved them enough to not par-take in this horrid exploitation.
Billy Batson lolol.....well, thank god I am not trying to survive in the wild. I will definitely show some teeth and look as carnivorous as possible if that happens. ha
Absolutely. There is no such thing as a "rare white tiger" that needs to be saved from extinction. There is such a thing as a tiger with a genetic mutation that gives it coloring that would pretty much prevent it from surviving as a predator in the wild. People think it's "exotic" and eye catching so they breed them in captivity. Siegfried and Roy are doing nothing to help save endangered tigers and they are perpetuating the myth that wild animals can be pets. Maybe if you're a millionaire like they are, but most wild animals kept as pets end up living out their lives in tiny squalid pens.
RIP ROY, You survived Montecore only to die from Covid. RIP Sigfried, pancreatic cancer is a monster. You’re no longer in pain. RIP Montecore, You Beautiful creature! Finally all 3 of you are reunited. You definitely left your legacy and will ALL be missed. ❤️
Never should have enslaved the Tiger for a show period. Every human there is put in danger, I don’t even like goi g to zoo’s because I wonder if the animals would rather be free. I understand we as humans must study animals but there is always a thin line, I just always wonder what they truly feel.
Like a mother with a cub. What a crock. That tiger meant business. No tiger meaning to carry a cub (or human) gently would have exerted pressure enough to crush a larynx. Witnesses said when the tiger wouldn't lie down on command, Roy smacked the tiger on its nose using the microphone in his hand. Then the tiger latched onto Roy's arm. Roy tried to beat the tiger back, using the microphone and that's when the tiger lunged, grabbed him by the throat and dragged him away. There was blood everywhere. Wild animals do not belong in stage acts, in zoos, in circuses, in aquariums, in movies or on TV.
The Mirage secret garden is sooo depressing. Those big beautiful animals in little awful cages. Disgusting that they have them there trapped, just for dumb people to take pictures with their phones.
I remember when I grew up in Vegas as a kid I used to go to sigfried & and Roy's front gate and take pictures.the gate had a huge S&R in gold on it. I'm sorry I never got a chance to see one their shows.
White Tigers wont survive in the wild. Their genetic abnormalities results in them being crossed eyed, which means their heavily dependent on caretakers because they can hardly see.
Consider this. He raised Montecore since he was a kitten. The tiger knew Roy wasn’t a threat to him, and Roy knew the same thing vise versa. His tiger saved his life.
Yes. Wild animals belong in the wild. I too never felt comfortable with seeing wild animals perform. I notice how strict trainers are with them. These animals just can't be domesticated! The stunts they perform are unnatural. Many accidents happen.
I just have a very hard time with the concept of people using wild animals for their amusement, in order to make a profit. I think that it represents some of the worst aspects of humanity.
trwent White tigers can't survive on their own in the wild to begin with. So why not take them in for breeding or whatever else to earn their keep? It's not as if a natural life was ever in the cards for them in the first place.
its not for profit .. they use animals to feel special .. just like the hurds who want to swim with dolphins .. etc .. people want to be recognized and special !!! the risk is all included and does not matter .. like skydiving .. nobody is winning ...
I know this is a comment just probably been said many times before I watch Siegfried and Roy on UA-cam many times a day and I'm sad because I never got a chance to see them in person when they were alive but I'm happy that Better Together in heaven with God brought together in life he kept together in death I know they're in heaven performing for all the angels and for God and for my family and I know one day or I hope that when my time comes I will be called to heaven and be able to see them perform and be able to talk to them and tell them how much they were loved and to say that when they were alive even though I never met them they were always in my heart always in my thoughts and that they gained respect because when Roy became incapacitated Siegfried didn't walk away he stayed which Roy and helps Roy until he could not help him anymore I know what he meant when he said he wanted to die in his home he wanted to be somewhere that he knew he was comfortable and he knew that Roy would come back to take him to heaven when his time came I lost all my family they died in the hospital and I know that they died alone that's what makes me sad these days that I could not be with them when their time came but I know that they're all in heaven and they're watching siegfried.and.roy perform every night I wish the best to Siegfried & Roy's family I hope that Siegfried sister Dolores is doing well and all of the dancers and people who knew them and who have worked with him I hope that they are all well and doing fine my best to everyone out there please stay healthy and safe and I mean everyone including all the people who worked with Siegfried and Roy I hope that they all will remain healthy I know that there's people taking care of your tigers and it looking down at then keeping everyone they knew and all their exotic pets safe I know it sounds strange to say the things you said I'm saying for never meeting them but they will always have my respect even though they had passed and every birthday that comes up for them I look at the heavens and I say happy birthday to both of them I've taken up too much time already so will enderson saying everyone be healthy be safe live your dreams goodbye from the state of New Jersey take care of everyone
The animal briefly reverted back to its primal nature... It's instinct. There isn't anything wrong about that. It's what happened. No matter how strongly a human feels about a tiger, it is psychology and biologically unable to be domesticated. It takes massive MASSIVE amounts of time to evolve.
Also people keep bring up intention. I don't believe the tiger was thinking about killing him. In that instant it could have been anything... Something as simple as a flash of a camera for this to happen.
Yeah, it's true. Doctors use the same procedure on their patients to lower blood pressure. Dr. Montecore to the rescue. That is one smart cat. This "accident" was a long time coming. But God bless them for exploiting these cats.
+Haley Gresham Actually, the animals themselves are living their own individual life contracts, and they have, in essence, "volunteered" to be exactly where they are in this place and time. Your rather shoddy language is regrettable, as it only sends out negative energy to the universe around you. Please open your heart and see the whole picture.
The animals as individuals do volunteer to be placed in particular situations, in order to teach lessons to humanity. You may not agree, but that is my experience from doing this work of communication. Where our sciences are presently does not begin to embrace the forces at work in other dimensions beyond our perceptions, so I acknowledge that what I have learned is only the tip of the iceberg (sorry about the cliche). I think you are also missing some details about these two individuals and what they are actually doing on their property. We don't have to agree, and each of us is at his or her own level of understanding at any given instant.
When you work with big cats, it's inevitable that accidents will happen. I don't blame the tiger regardless of what happened. They are still WILD animals. Now if a domesticated dog attacked, that would be inexcusable and should be put down. But a tiger, lion, or any big cat is acting purely on instinct. It's a miracle that they are well trained as they are.
I see a lot of critical comments. However, what he is saying is absolutely correct. When a tiger sees one of its own in danger, he will grab it and drag it away by the neck and drag it away from all other beings. This does not hurt other tigers but, of course, it will hurt a human being, which is much weaker and fragile than a tiger. But the tiger had no way of knowing that. He just did what was natural to him. He saw one of his own in danger and he dragged it away from all other beings.
Elizabeth Kelly - Yup. That tiger was tired of being controlled and bopped on the head by a physically inferior animal. Seigfried and Roy can’t admit it was an attack because that’s admitting the cats aren’t happy, which means what they’re doing - their whole life’s work - is morally wrong. They claim the cats are happy living in their mansion, but I think they’ll only be happy in the wild.
That tiger attacked him, it just wasn’t malicious. Maybe he did have an stroke simulataneously but just because it didn’t wanna kill him , didn’t mean It didn’t attack. Something aggravated him. It was bound to happen eventually
It’s so funny reading all these comments about how the tiger sensed Roy having a stroke and the “attack” was just an attempt to save his life. Finally their own animal handler admitted this is straight up bullshit and lies
So it's "Tiger attacked him and went for the kill" OR "Tiger tried to protect him by dragging him and luckily made a relieve wound at the neck". Must say the first one is a nice spin but nobody is that insane to believe it.
+FreddyFish Whether it was a stroke or not the original footage clearly leads me to believe that for WHATEVER reason, Montecore was not trying to kill Roy Horn - he was removing him from the stage but for what reason only the tiger really knows - if he had been trying to kill him he would have shaken Roy til there was no movement - then possibly tried to hide him for food later - not likely because those tigers were always well fed so Montecore had no reason to kill for food - and tigers don't kill for the sake of killing - they kill for two reasons - food and protection - of themselves or their cubs. The two guys are not getting any younger and I worry about what will happen to their tigers when they pass away -
+FreddyFish Bullshit Lol there are many people here that believe that dumb shit. Just read some of the comments. Its crazy. These people are walking our streets and giving you your change at the gas station. Its a crazy crazy world with crazy crazy people!
+Phlop Alopagus Once at my house a bird came out of our chimney. That is when all hell broke loose. My cat went up the curtains so fast it looked like a flash. Well to make this long story short the cat had that bird in her mouth. My dad grabbed the cat jaws and some how without hurting the cat or bird he got the cat to let go! He said it was one of the hardest things he ever did. My dad fought during world war 2 and said this was one of the most difficult things ever! So if the tiger wanted to kill Roy he would have, believe me I saw it in miniature form.
99.999% of white tigers are man made through inbreeding. They would not survive in the wild because they stand out (being white) and prey easily detect them and run. Also, it’s common for white tigers to have defects like cross eyes, kidney probs., spine probs., etc...
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Animals should be free like humans. It's criminal to pimp out animals for perverse pleasures
I enjoy hearing about Roy life and the way he loved his white tigers . Roy gave the world and wonderful gift sharing his love for animals. All things are possible through God
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! And delight/happiness is our highest desire. Men have killed to have it. Kings have gone mad trying to find it. Wars have served it. Affairs have worshiped it. We all seek it. Sadly, billions have died without discovering its secret... namely, that joy is not an it, but a He. The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him. God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. He is the only being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the highest virtue. Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion. Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world... Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE! We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ. Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming 😊... Thanks for taking the time to read this comment. May God bless you with all things necessary for life and goodness. God Bless!
Based on eyewitness accounts, the Tiger dragged Roy down by his arm and Roy hit him in the nose with a microphone. If he passed out, he obviously wouldn't be tapping the microphone on the tiger's nose.
BECAUSE HE HAD YOUR NECK IT SLOWED THE BLEEDING DOWN ENOUGH FOR YOU TO LIVE ! HE REALLY SAVED YOUR LIFE ROY . GOD BLESS BOTH OF YOU ! and your wonderful brite light idea !
I can appreciate Roy Horn's defense of Mantecore's behavior (allegedly saving him during a stroke on stage). Nonetheless, Horn was left with permanent partial paralysis. So, we all need to appreciate the damage that a full-grown tiger can do to a person. If a gorilla pulls you out of an overturned vehicle, but it rips your arm off in the process, then I'd find it difficult to defend the gorilla's actions (no matter how grateful you are to that animal). Clearly, Roy Horn loved Mantecore, and all of the other animals that he performed with, but he's been left permanently disabled and he lives with chronic pain.
+Tiberiu Nicolae agree whole heartedly with you im sure they have donated millions to animal conservation aswell. And really it obvisouly wasnt a serious attack by the tiger if it was angry he would have been mauled. poor dude
+BillyBob Just read your opinion. You are wrong. Humans fail to understand how sophisticated animals are about many things, and as a biologist who is now an animal communicator, I realize humans are quite arrogant about our place in the universe. I hope that you'll someday understand what I have experienced, as it is genuinely and overwhelmingly enlightening. There is so much we, in our three-dimensional physical forms, do not perceive. The tiger was doing exactly as Roy reported. I hope that someday you will have a way to understand as I do.
+Lauren Johnson Lol Holy shiet some people are crazy as hell. The only thing I cant believe is that a person could get attacked by a tiger and then not only convince themselves but others that the tiger saved there life. WoW! Now I need to go check out all the tiger attacks here on youtube and ask how is that tiger saving that person hahaha. Funny that all the peeps in the front row saw him fend off the attack with his mic and then lose. I guess when your having a stroke you just start beating a tiger in the nose with whatever is around in till it agree's to save your life. WoWWW!
Too bad that you are both so unenlightened. I do not do drugs, but I understand much more about the things we do not perceive from our 3-dimensional sensory perspective than I did when I was younger. Hopefully, you will both become wiser and think more broadly as you mature. Remember that there is much at work beyond our sensory systems, and that our understanding is much different each time technology reveas some new process that we cannot see, hear, touch, smell, or taste. Our bodies are really primitive in comparison with our souls.
@Shelley Fitch It's a wild animal that was raised as if it were a house pet. It attacked because wild animals are unpredictable. There isn't anything "magical" or "mysterious" about the intentions of the creature. The chickens just finally came to roost and he was unfortunately the one it happened to.
I am an Animal Lover & I was fortunate 2 see their Show. They also have a gorgeous Sanctuary for these beautiful Lions & Tigers who live a "posh" lifestlye, just like Siegfried & Roy!! I propose this: In their Show, a tiger will appear 2 "give a hug" 2 Roy as it takes a bit of food from him. Now, most of us have seen Lions & Tigers in their Natural Habitat on Discovery, Nat Geo, etc. They only attack when hungry. It's graphic, vicious, ripping & tearing flesh til its prey is DEAD & the feasting begins. THAT did NOT happen in Roy's case w/Mantecore. Mantecore "latched on" & dragged Roy off stage. Why? I don't think Mantecore tried 2 kill Roy. Based on the "Natural Habitat Theory", what do you think? Thx! X♡
***** You are the one that is crazy. I didn't pay to see them. I'm VIP. Did you even read my 1st paragraph? Have you been to their Sanctuary? It's conducive to a Lavish & SAFE atmosphere for these beauties. SAFER than being in the wild. People HUNT them for sport on Safari! Also, have you not seen a pack of Water Buffalo KILL a Lion? NONE of that will ever happen to Siegfried & Roy's babies. Educate yourself, Dear. I LOVE ANIMALS!!! XXX♡♡♡
You can keep calling everyone concerned about the trapped animals ignorant and crazy, but the sad facts remain. Those dolphins held at the Mirage usually die within 3 months of captivity, and they just buy more. The cats have to be treated with daily tranquilizing anti depressant medications to even just to exist in captivity. No wild animals should be in captivity, it is a horrible life sentence to prison.
It don’t matter how much he loved that tiger it’s still considered an exotic/wild animal Animals in captivity who performs in exotic shows have been known to attack in frustration, agitation, worry, fear, anxiety or boredom ...... That tiger was annoyed by something and attacked even if it wasn’t intended to kill don’t matter what he said. It but his neck for a reason. Just be lucky he survived,
i saw the show sitting at a front row table when he introduced the new white tiger cub for the first time. i remember he was bonking it on the nose with the microphone and the animal didn't like it. excellent show. outstanding.
actually, now that the trainer has told the story, i don't think they truly respected the tigers enough, the underlying fault was S&R ego, they wanted to protect the illusion that they were the primary trainers so they 'trained' them not to go onstage to correct the tigers when things would go off course, they were to let S&R ad lib but the problem was that S&R weren't handlers at all, they had no idea how to handle them. It was a simple mistake, the tiger went off course, instead of getting him back on course by walking him in a circle to the proper spot, he tried to guide his body with his hand, which provoked confusion, then he kept holding the damn mic up to the tiger asking it what's wrong?, that's when the tiger bit his arm, starting the attack, it wasn't an attack attack, the tiger held on, until trainer got there, they stumbled over each other, trainer fell over tiger, Roy fell to floor, and tiger stared at Roy, tiger didn't grab Roy until Roy started to retreat. All the while trainer was getting ready to grab tigers collar. So all in all, they didn't respect the tigers more than their own ego.
It's a very dangerous relation if a man sees a tiger as friend and gives it a name to humanize it. No matter the name , it remains a tiger. For the tiger the man is a prey and when the opportunity is favorable it attacks the man. You can't put your head on the tiger and believe that the tiger has got the same feelings. I guess that Siegfried and Roy knew the risks. They were so successful. They are smart men. It could be that for the public they tried to present a"we are family" show with tigers.
The tiger was obviously trained as a first responder, he was rendering aid until a higher level of care arrived on scene to take over. This is one smart cat that clearly loved his dear friend!!
Roy Horn did not have a stroke on stage and fall down. This tiger headed for the audience was not following protocol and Roy moved between the animal and the audience and smacked the tiger on the nose with the mic. The animal bit down on Roy's arm and the arm started bleeding. Roy was still standing, he fell b/c the animal wouldn't let go. Roy kept trying to gain control, the animal took him by the throat and dragged him off stage.
You have to respect the fact that they don't blame the animal they caged for the injuries it inflicted. When it comes down to it, thats a chance you take when you cage an animal. NEVER blame a wild animal for being wild.
I think both sides are right about this. They did use exotic animals for money, and entertainment. But they also obviously care for them. He makes that clear with his willingness to lie about what happened, in an effort to convince people it was an accident.
Even in the hospital, he did everything he could to prevent the tiger from being euthanized. It almost killed him, and left him partially paralyzed, and he still protected the tiger. You don't do that for something, or someone, you don't care about.
+pustulio81 They did love the tigers so much they were like a family into the family business, you can see how they always treated them with love and respect, and even more, , it was "a thing of soul" they had a real connection, never controlled the tigers, they had a natural relationship..Why the success, If those tigers had been out in the real world no doubt some greedy human low life, had killed them in the worst inhumane way for greed! IMO Look what happened to Cecil.. Thank God nowadays we know about things like that happening, but back in the day we had no way to know and people like Siegfried and Roy were and are a blessing.
+STILLDecibel Fuck you with the "look what happened to Cecil," bullshit. Cecil the lion was a fucking terror that haunted native villagers for a very long time. The media shit storm against that dentist was unfair and, quite frankly, ridiculous. Hunting excursions like that are actually a benefit to the lion population as killing "Cecil" prevents that big bully lion from eating the cubs of other families. There is population control at work here that you obviously do not understand. No one gave two shits about Cecil until the media blew it out of proportion. Keep buying into whatever lame political agenda the media is shoving down your throat... You're a sheep.
+Drew Richards What did you expect a lion to do?. That lion only "terrorized" the villages, because that is how WE label it. Cecil, as with every lion, has no idea what "terrorize" even means. Cecil was being a lion. Nothing more, nothing less.
Keep that "terrorize" shit where it belongs. Directed toward the animals that created the concept: "humans". WE invaded THEIR home, not the other way around.
pustulio81 Exactly, there is nothing more to be said other than humans are the problem like this Richard shit!
You guys say that from the safety of your professionally constructed home, in the middle of a country that has done exactly the same thing to all the natural inhabitants. If you feel so fucking strongly about the sanctity of that one lion's life (a lion you didn't even know existed until the media jumped on Walter Palmer), go live in the villages in Africa and we'll see how you feel when it kills your family, or close friends. What are those people to do? They were born into a shitty situation and don't have the means to leave? Should they just kill themselves? Just accept defeat? What if the first humans did that tens of thousands of years ago? We wouldn't be here to argue about the life of one, relatively insignificant, lion in Africa.
You people really just don't get it. Killing those lions IS a conservation effort. Not to mention the money from the hunt going to preserve and help the species, as a whole, that loses that member. I'm not a hunter and haven't even killed an animal accidentally in my car, so don't label me a murderer. But that doesn't mean I am as ignorant, misinformed, and gullible as you ridiculous people calling for my head and calling me a bad person.
The tiger attacked him, not because he was a bad animal, but because he was an unpredictable wild animal. Roy tries to romanticize the event but we all know what happened. No one is to blame. It is a risk when working with potentially dangerous animals.
TE S A tiger is an Apex predator and should be treated as such.
TE S you seem to be a know it all and I feel sorry for you bro. Roy has no reason to lie or romanticize anything . It's sad that you or anyone would say such a thing to be a negative light to others
A bit like living with a woman amidst PMS.
I agree. Eye witness accounts differ regarding exactly when the tiger went for his neck. Some say the tiger bit his neck before he went down and some say it happened after but in all accounts everyone agrees that the tiger was attacking him before he went down. I tend to think his going down and the tiger biting him happened simultaneously and this is the reason for the confusion. I think these 2 really loved the tiger and didn't want to admit that their beloved animal almost killed one of them but that tiger was on the attack before the bite to the neck.
Go Patriots Knox He has no reason to romanticize it? Lmao you're just as full of shit as he is. There's no way someone who was owning a wild animal and exploiting it on stage for that long would lie about the animal attacking him? Grow up.
If the tiger were trying to kill Roy, his head would have been ripped off. I believe Roy.
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Tiger was just performing surgery to relieve the pressure in Roy's head.
I mean he saved Roy's life, nobody should insinuate otherwise.
Roy doesnt sound like a defensive father protecting his child from persecution.
And yeah I know what you mean Tigers instinctively sense intracranial pressure and thus this tiger knew exactly what to do, this was not his first rodeo.
You’re a democrat too I bet
@@rustyboone1434 Your condescending tone is nothing but annoying, not smart, not funny, just annoying. The point is, the tiger was not trying to kill Roy, otherwise he would've been very dead. We'll never know what really caused it.
@@kevinmachadogarcia8509 lol so sensitive. Put your tampon in little girl
Bless his soul. Romanticizing the attack on a level I can only smile and shake my head at. I’m a zoologist. It truly takes discipline to not anthropomorphize an animal. Especially after raising them from an abandoned baby to adult. I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND! But holy shit Roy (RIP) That’s a doozy you were trying to get the public to swallow. “He saved your life by severing your carotid & relieving the pressure”! You truly did take everything that one extra mile! RIP ROY, You survived Montecore only to die from Covid. RIP Sigfried, pancreatic cancer is a monster. You’re no longer in pain. RIP Montecore, You Beautiful creature! You definitely left your legacy and will ALL be missed. ❤️
I love all that you have written the very best!! You brought attention to the family they were and their bond. The unfortunate incident that took place, Roy knew what the deal was and Montecore was not going to be done away with over it. Siegfried shared the same feelings and insight.
ANYHOW...you expressed it the best. As I think about it, it's sort of like a love story❤
Yeh I agree there Natalie.
Way to go Natalie, you some did all of! I remember growing up watching my mom being interested in sick freedom Roy and the incredible of putting big animals like this in captivity but she also enjoyed the Marvel of animals being able to behave long enough to do these shows Because she had a love of animals. Thank you for Speaking your mind better than I can put into words LOL! And yes rest in peace to these 2 guys, they brought a lot of joy and wonderment to people. And yes ma'am you are right there are no longer in pain according to the Bible ecclesiastes 9:5 The dead know nothing at all, they are not in pain.
He's lying. He knows it tried to kill him. But he lied out of safety for the tiger. I can't help but respect that.
+Silentevil7 You are wrong. Animals act in many ways that humans don't understand. In my work as an interspecies communicator, I have received explanations many people would find confusing or difficult to believe. I am a biologist who now understands how limited human understanding of other species really is. Good luck in your own search for truth.
+Silentevil7 One thing everyone that was there can agree on was the repetitive sound of the mic bashing into the tigers face as he was trying to free his left arm from the tigers mouth. I can imagine the smile on Tony the practitioners face as he whispers (this will only sting for a second).
+Silentevil7 If the tiger intended to kill Roy, Roy would be dead.
+Ziah Von Heyneman My first point would be that without modern medicine he would have been dead three times over. Second point would be tigers like cats play with there pray. Third Your point would be that know one has ever lived though a tiger attack which is false. He was not attacked for food as the tiger would not have even been hungry and only attacked out of freight much like many wild animals do. Id hate to ask what logic brought you to the concussion that the tiger knows surgery.
so you think it is more fathomable that a 600 pound tiger tried to attack a defenseless old man, and couldn't finish the job in a second?
The tigers version of what happened is a little different!
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@dalelovesimba Who are you talking to?
My husband and I were at that show. What we saw happen was nothing malicious by that tiger. He acted on instinct once Roy lost his footing and fell to the stage floor. What all big cats do: prey is down, they grab the neck and drag. However what preceded that was an unhappy big cat who was being disciplined by Roy because he began growling at Roy which was a no-no as they has raised him. Roy tapped the Tiger on his head with the microphone, then the Tiger grabbed his arm (no bite marks, no blood) as the cat's large mouth surrounded his arm. As Roy tried to yank his arm out of the Tiger's mouth, he was also hitting him on the top of the head with the microphone to get him to open his mouth off of his arm. At that point in time Roy lost his footing and slipped to the stage floor, at which time the Tiger acted on instinct and grabbed him by the neck and dragged him to the back of the stage behind the curtain.
It's clear by your comment and many others along with eye-witnesses that this man overestimated his ability to control the animal. Instinct, indeed, kicked in which is what makes predators ALWAYS predators. Dogs have been bred to serve humans for thousands of years but even they will attack a human under the right circumstances. One thing is certain; humans continue to anthropomorphize animals believing they are far more intelligent (and therefore, disciplined) than they actually are. Toddler steps on dog's tail. Dog feels pain. Dog attacks child. It's survival instinct. It doesn't happen every time. But it happens and this tiger attack was an unfortunate but perfect example of the foolishness of sentimental humans.
In most part you are right, although i have trained a lot of dogs that I would put my hand in a fire for, and can guarantee that they would never attack me. That being said I am the one taking that risk, but would never push it on someone else, especially a child (that is just dumb and careless). You have to always be cautious when dealing with animals as you should when dealing with humans. Cheers
But.... but , Roy had a stroke and the heroic Tiger was performing surgery on him !
LOL casey YEAH LMAO
psbintl Thank you for that account. I have always wanted to see the footage of the incident to judge for myself. This is the next best thing. Could it have been that the growl was the cat signalling Roy that something was amiss? Animals can sense epileptic seizures coming on, and the tiger may have sensed the stroke.
He wasn't trying to kill him, he was going to save him for later, and drag him away from other humans so he could digest him in peace and quiet.
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Manticore saved his life 😆😂😂 oh my godmother 🤣 and where did manticore get his diploma exactly.
There is a line between loving animals and having common sense AND exploiting it.
Man can NEVER tame WILD period
Didn't stop them from taming wolves into dogs.
@@Edax_Royeaux Most dogs love living with people but there are some that prefer living free /wild. We should respect that rather then scoping them out, render for chicken feed and commercial dog food.
@@atlas79-om1hn There were no domesticated dogs until they were domesticated by humans.
@@Edax_Royeaux Certain species are easier to domesticate than others. Since we are all energy beings our evolution must be happening not just on physical but also on spiritual level. Not many seem to understand that.
@@atlas79-om1hn It's not a fact that spirituality is involved in any of this. Those that domesticated dogs believed in a wide variety of mutually exclusive religions.
Both Roy and Montecore are together in heaven now... lying to Jesus about what happened. RIP Roy.
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The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! And delight/happiness is our highest desire.
Men have killed to have it. Kings have gone mad trying to find it. Wars have served it. Affairs have worshiped it. We all seek it.
Sadly, billions have died without discovering its secret... namely, that joy is not an it, but a He.
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. He is the only being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the highest virtue.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming
😊... Thanks for taking the time to read this comment.
May God bless you with all things necessary for life and goodness.
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I saw their show a long time ago in Vegas, may 2001. So magic ! RIP Singfried and Roy!
It was so good to see him getting around and speaking so well and still loving and working to protect these beautiful cats.
I have some Koolaid to sell you.
I agree with Roy's assessment. My house cat jumps on my lap and taps in the shoulder whenever my blood pressure spikes. It took me a while to figure out what he was doing, as he is not a lap cat. I finally learned my bp was spiking to stroke level. Now it is in control with meds. I know a house cat cannot be compared to a tiger, but there are animals that know about medical emergencies. Not saying this is what happened to Roy, but I can understand his belief. The tiger dragged him to his cage, as if to protect him. If he wanted to kill Roy, he would have mauled him and killed him immediately with no chance of survival.
Your cat controls the meds.
That is rich. After a long time this happens. Luck runs out. Like Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend.
Big animal lovers also
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@@FBLA605 Why? Animals have senses that we humans find hard to comprehend. Dogs can sniff out cancer from skin, saliva, and breath (not even debatable...Scientifically proven as there are dogs trained to specialize in this). Dogs can also sense heart problems via heart rate, blood pressure, and blood sugar levels from their incredible sense of smell.
Cats also have a highly developed sense of smell and can detect heart problems...They also have a great ability to read their owner's normal patterns and determine that something isn't right if your patterns/social interactions are off and may try to alert you in their own way.
Again, the general human condition (much to our disadvantage) is to disregard things we can't fully understand or grasp.
My cat knows when I'm sick and will curl up in bed with me and be glued to me constantly. I believe they do have a special sense because they observe us without the ability of language.
My Condolences to Roy. A Great Entertainer.. You will be missed...
Roy is a kool Dude, always loved and respected this duo and wish them well all their life
I went to visit the secret garden last may, 2014 with my friend while on vacation in vegas. seigfreid happen to have been there that day and we took pics with him. very nice gentleman, very gracious. we asked how roy was doing and about the tigers. he cares so much for these animals and it is genuine. they don't need the $.
I am unaware of if he breeds them or not. they are cared for very well from what we see. Maybe you should investigate him and bring up charges if you have nothing else to do with your life.
They aren’t pets and don’t need care. Release them in New York and they will keep people off the streets and quarantined.
I recently read that one of the trainers said Roy kinda treated the tigers like props instead of giving them the respect anyone should give a 400-lbs beast of the wild with 3-inch incisors
Everything I've read says differently. Bro was obsessed with these tigers. The reason he's lying about the attack is so people don't turn on the tigers
RIP Roy, one of the original tiger kings and now a victim of covid.
If he was healthy he probably wouldn't have died from covid-19 🤷🏿♀️
@@shawntebarron9306 But he was wealthy.
More like the va cc ine
that tiger did not think he was a tiger cub, ..plse. Roy loves these big cats so much hes willing to lie to keep the public from turning against them, but it doesnt remove the fact theyre wild and unpredictable. RIP Montecore
Rest in piece, Roy 🕊 You were always an important name of my childhood
No kidding, I was at that show in 2003. I was 13 years old and I still remember exactly what happened. It seems like Roy has either convinced himself that he had stroke on stage or he is lying to protect the tiger/his legacy. I don't really care either way, but the fact is - Roy DID NOT pass out. Something agitated that tiger while it was on stage, Roy got between it and the audience, bopped it on the nose with the mic, and then was dragged off stage by Montecore. I clearly remember the very distinct sound the microphone made as Roy tried to discipline the tiger with that whack to the snout. Personally, I think it was the tiger trying to save Roy from some perceived threat. We can never know the true reason why that beautiful animal did what it did.
Roy convinced himself for 60 years he was a heterosexual so why not convince himself the tiger tried to do a brainsurgery on him
I agree
Trying to save white tigers and lions from extinction is a load of crap. Tigers are severely inbred to come out with that coloring, and suffer all kinds of genetic defects as a result. They rarely occur in the wild. And even so, the white coloring makes it impossible for them to survive in the wild, as the orange and black stripes are natural camouflage. And inbreeding for that perfect white tiger, only a few cubs will survive. The rest are too deformed and horrible things happen to them, and they are disposed of. I really wish people would really pay attention to the behind the scenes ugliness of animal exploitation. I have no doubt that this man loves his big cats. However, I wish he loved them enough to not par-take in this horrid exploitation.
Duck face also makes it impossible to survive in the wild. ;-)
Billy Batson lolol.....well, thank god I am not trying to survive in the wild. I will definitely show some teeth and look as carnivorous as possible if that happens. ha
Are you serious . Money and fame changes people
Absolutely. There is no such thing as a "rare white tiger" that needs to be saved from extinction. There is such a thing as a tiger with a genetic mutation that gives it coloring that would pretty much prevent it from surviving as a predator in the wild. People think it's "exotic" and eye catching so they breed them in captivity. Siegfried and Roy are doing nothing to help save endangered tigers and they are perpetuating the myth that wild animals can be pets. Maybe if you're a millionaire like they are, but most wild animals kept as pets end up living out their lives in tiny squalid pens.
@Fock Religion Dogs will disagree with you
Self delusion in the highest form.
He also claims that he could hear animals think.
I don't think it's self delusional. He's a magician it's his job to lie to others for entertainment
If I cant keep my house cat who I treat like a king from randomly biting me how do u think a tiger would never
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Yup mine does it all the time so unpredictable
He's a wild animal. What did they expect to happen. No matter what. If you raised them whatever it's a wild animal they're going to attack.
RIP ROY, You survived Montecore only to die from Covid. RIP Sigfried, pancreatic cancer is a monster. You’re no longer in pain. RIP Montecore, You Beautiful creature! Finally all 3 of you are reunited. You definitely left your legacy and will ALL be missed. ❤️
What a kind and beautiful thing to say Natalie...❤️.....
Bro shut up they ain’t gonna see it are they it’s not even in their post Jesus Christ you fucking loser
Never should have enslaved the Tiger for a show period. Every human there is put in danger, I don’t even like goi g to zoo’s because I wonder if the animals would rather be free.
I understand we as humans must study animals but there is always a thin line, I just always wonder what they truly feel.
I saw the footage after alot of searching. He was grabbed without any sign of him having a stroke.
So there is not one single video of this actual event? How is that possible?
Like a mother with a cub. What a crock. That tiger meant business. No tiger meaning to carry a cub (or human) gently would have exerted pressure enough to crush a larynx. Witnesses said when the tiger wouldn't lie down on command, Roy smacked the tiger on its nose using the microphone in his hand. Then the tiger latched onto Roy's arm. Roy tried to beat the tiger back, using the microphone and that's when the tiger lunged, grabbed him by the throat and dragged him away. There was blood everywhere. Wild animals do not belong in stage acts, in zoos, in circuses, in aquariums, in movies or on TV.
My 10 pound orange tabby Like to swat me with his paw. just imagine what a 600 pound tiger can do.
Someone need to see if Tony the Tiger wants to start a medical practice.
He already had some famous clients by the look of them. Don't know what butcher did their faces but Tony the Tiger sure couldn't do a worse job.
The Mirage secret garden is sooo depressing. Those big beautiful animals in little awful cages. Disgusting that they have them there trapped, just for dumb people to take pictures with their phones.
I remember when I grew up in Vegas as a kid I used to go to sigfried & and Roy's front gate and take pictures.the gate had a huge S&R in gold on it. I'm sorry I never got a chance to see one their shows.
leave the animals alone...in their natural habitat,
Well there's poachers so
White Tigers wont survive in the wild. Their genetic abnormalities results in them being crossed eyed, which means their heavily dependent on caretakers because they can hardly see.
He took a stroke, and the cat dragged him off "like a mother"? It's amazing what we can tell ourselves.
Consider this. He raised Montecore since he was a kitten. The tiger knew Roy wasn’t a threat to him, and Roy knew the same thing vise versa. His tiger saved his life.
The stroke caused Roy's paralysis on his left side, not the tiger.
Yeah the stroke caused by the tiger
@@mustang8206 No, he had a stroke, and the tiger could tell there was something wrong and dragged him to safety, trying to protect him.
To keep a Tiger as a "pet" is crazy and wrong
It's not different than a cat, tigers are just big cats
Yes. Wild animals belong in the wild. I too never felt comfortable with seeing wild animals perform. I notice how strict trainers are with them. These animals just can't be domesticated! The stunts they perform are unnatural. Many accidents happen.
it's crazy, yes. but why is it wrong? why are you passing judgement on owning an animal? you strike me as the old crazy cat lady from the Simpsons...
You’re old as fuck shut up
Kimberly Forssander no it isn't you can keep one if you want
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I just have a very hard time with the concept of people using wild animals for their amusement, in order to make a profit. I think that it represents some of the worst aspects of humanity.
I agree whole-heartedly
trwent I agree
trwent White tigers can't survive on their own in the wild to begin with. So why not take them in for breeding or whatever else to earn their keep? It's not as if a natural life was ever in the cards for them in the first place.
its not for profit .. they use animals to feel special .. just like the hurds who want to swim with dolphins .. etc .. people want to be recognized and special !!! the risk is all included and does not matter .. like skydiving .. nobody is winning ...
Smh u and me fucking both. Def dont want that to happen to anyone but hey, thats exactly what they're designed to do.
I know this is a comment just probably been said many times before I watch Siegfried and Roy on UA-cam many times a day and I'm sad because I never got a chance to see them in person when they were alive but I'm happy that Better Together in heaven with God brought together in life he kept together in death I know they're in heaven performing for all the angels and for God and for my family and I know one day or I hope that when my time comes I will be called to heaven and be able to see them perform and be able to talk to them and tell them how much they were loved and to say that when they were alive even though I never met them they were always in my heart always in my thoughts and that they gained respect because when Roy became incapacitated Siegfried didn't walk away he stayed which Roy and helps Roy until he could not help him anymore I know what he meant when he said he wanted to die in his home he wanted to be somewhere that he knew he was comfortable and he knew that Roy would come back to take him to heaven when his time came I lost all my family they died in the hospital and I know that they died alone that's what makes me sad these days that I could not be with them when their time came but I know that they're all in heaven and they're watching siegfried.and.roy perform every night I wish the best to Siegfried & Roy's family I hope that Siegfried sister Dolores is doing well and all of the dancers and people who knew them and who have worked with him I hope that they are all well and doing fine my best to everyone out there please stay healthy and safe and I mean everyone including all the people who worked with Siegfried and Roy I hope that they all will remain healthy I know that there's people taking care of your tigers and it looking down at then keeping everyone they knew and all their exotic pets safe I know it sounds strange to say the things you said I'm saying for never meeting them but they will always have my respect even though they had passed and every birthday that comes up for them I look at the heavens and I say happy birthday to both of them I've taken up too much time already so will enderson saying everyone be healthy be safe live your dreams goodbye from the state of New Jersey take care of everyone
The animal briefly reverted back to its primal nature... It's instinct. There isn't anything wrong about that. It's what happened. No matter how strongly a human feels about a tiger, it is psychology and biologically unable to be domesticated. It takes massive MASSIVE amounts of time to evolve.
Also people keep bring up intention. I don't believe the tiger was thinking about killing him. In that instant it could have been anything... Something as simple as a flash of a camera for this to happen.
In the way you mean, evolution has absolutely no relevance here.
Yeah, it's true. Doctors use the same procedure on their patients to lower blood pressure. Dr. Montecore to the rescue. That is one smart cat. This "accident" was a long time coming. But God bless them for exploiting these cats.
+Haley Gresham Actually, the animals themselves are living their own individual life contracts, and they have, in essence, "volunteered" to be exactly where they are in this place and time. Your rather shoddy language is regrettable, as it only sends out negative energy to the universe around you. Please open your heart and see the whole picture.
The animals as individuals do volunteer to be placed in particular situations, in order to teach lessons to humanity. You may not agree, but that is my experience from doing this work of communication. Where our sciences are presently does not begin to embrace the forces at work in other dimensions beyond our perceptions, so I acknowledge that what I have learned is only the tip of the iceberg (sorry about the cliche). I think you are also missing some details about these two individuals and what they are actually doing on their property. We don't have to agree, and each of us is at his or her own level of understanding at any given instant.
Who the fuck is your doctor? Dracula?
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When you work with big cats, it's inevitable that accidents will happen. I don't blame the tiger regardless of what happened. They are still WILD animals. Now if a domesticated dog attacked, that would be inexcusable and should be put down. But a tiger, lion, or any big cat is acting purely on instinct. It's a miracle that they are well trained as they are.
I see a lot of critical comments. However, what he is saying is absolutely correct. When a tiger sees one of its own in danger, he will grab it and drag it away by the neck and drag it away from all other beings. This does not hurt other tigers but, of course, it will hurt a human being, which is much weaker and fragile than a tiger. But the tiger had no way of knowing that. He just did what was natural to him. He saw one of his own in danger and he dragged it away from all other beings.
I believe the tiger may have been hungry and angry about that. Then he's hit on the head with a microphone and that enraged him at Roy.
Elizabeth Kelly - Yup. That tiger was tired of being controlled and bopped on the head by a physically inferior animal. Seigfried and Roy can’t admit it was an attack because that’s admitting the cats aren’t happy, which means what they’re doing - their whole life’s work - is morally wrong. They claim the cats are happy living in their mansion, but I think they’ll only be happy in the wild.
Ryan Boyle lol their animal handler recently spoke out saying this is a lie
In the famous words of Chris Rock "Everybody sayin the tiger WENT CRAZZYY.. That tiger didnt go crazy, that tiger went TIGER!
That tiger attacked him, it just wasn’t malicious. Maybe he did have an stroke simulataneously but just because it didn’t wanna kill him , didn’t mean It didn’t attack. Something aggravated him. It was bound to happen eventually
You can take the tiger out of the wild but you can't take the wild out of the tiger.
It’s so funny reading all these comments about how the tiger sensed Roy having a stroke and the “attack” was just an attempt to save his life. Finally their own animal handler admitted this is straight up bullshit and lies
ENOUGH is ENOUGH
So it's "Tiger attacked him and went for the kill" OR "Tiger tried to protect him by dragging him and luckily made a relieve wound at the neck". Must say the first one is a nice spin but nobody is that insane to believe it.
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+FreddyFish Whether it was a stroke or not the original footage clearly leads me to believe that for WHATEVER reason, Montecore was not trying to kill Roy Horn - he was removing him from the stage but for what reason only the tiger really knows - if he had been trying to kill him he would have shaken Roy til there was no movement - then possibly tried to hide him for food later - not likely because those tigers were always well fed so Montecore had no reason to kill for food - and tigers don't kill for the sake of killing - they kill for two reasons - food and protection - of themselves or their cubs. The two guys are not getting any younger and I worry about what will happen to their tigers when they pass away -
+deborah wood exactly if the tiger wanted to kill him the tiger could have easily killed him with one bite
+FreddyFish Bullshit Lol there are many people here that believe that dumb shit. Just read some of the comments. Its crazy. These people are walking our streets and giving you your change at the gas station. Its a crazy crazy world with crazy crazy people!
+Phlop Alopagus Once at my house a bird came out of our chimney. That is when all hell broke loose. My cat went up the curtains so fast it looked like a flash. Well to make this long story short the cat had that bird in her mouth. My dad grabbed the cat jaws and some how without hurting the cat or bird he got the cat to let go! He said it was one of the hardest things he ever did. My dad fought during world war 2 and said this was one of the most difficult things ever! So if the tiger wanted to kill Roy he would have, believe me I saw it in miniature form.
if the tiger wanted to kill him with one bite the tiger would have killed him!
It's a good thing to recognize their true love for the animals, but don't lie.
TIGERS DESERVE TO BE IN THE WILD, NOT IN A ZOO, AND CERTAINLY NOT ON A STAGE IN LAS VEGAS !!!!
NO THEY DON'T!!!!! ALL TIGERS DESERVE TO BE IN VEGAS!!!!!
99.999% of white tigers are man made through inbreeding. They would not survive in the wild because they stand out (being white) and prey easily detect them and run. Also, it’s common for white tigers to have defects like cross eyes, kidney probs., spine probs., etc...
Animals should be free like humans. It's criminal to pimp out animals for perverse pleasures
I enjoy hearing about Roy life and the way he loved his white tigers . Roy gave the world and wonderful gift sharing his love for animals. All things are possible through God
The worth and dignity of a soul is measured by what it delights in! And delight/happiness is our highest desire.
Men have killed to have it. Kings have gone mad trying to find it. Wars have served it. Affairs have worshiped it. We all seek it.
Sadly, billions have died without discovering its secret... namely, that joy is not an it, but a He.
The Gospel is the good news that sinners can delight in a Holy God. It's the good news that all of our deepest desires are satisfied in the ONE who sent His Son to bring us to Him.
God is so valuable and so satisfying that the most loving thing he could do for us is to make Himself gloriously indispensable. He is the only being in the universe for whom self-exaltation is the highest virtue.
Therefore, God's commitment to be glorified and our goal to be satisfied are not at odds but come to simultaneous consumation in the worship of His Son... who took upon Himself the Wrath that God had towards us in our sinful disregard of Him. A wrath that could never be appeased through man-made religion.
Jesus didn't die to turn the world into a paradise, he died so that we could stop seeking paradise in the world...
Temporal things such as beauty, popularity, money, sex, racial identity, gender reassignment... can never truly satisfy. BECAUSE WE WERE MADE FOR SO MUCH MORE!
We were made to gaze intently into the Eternal Beauty of a majestic King, Father, and God... meet Jesus the Christ.
Life is hard, God is good, Glory is coming
😊... Thanks for taking the time to read this comment.
May God bless you with all things necessary for life and goodness.
God Bless!
Lions and Tigers are stunningly gorgeous 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🐯🐯😍😍😍😍😍😍😍!!!!!!! Set them free.
Based on eyewitness accounts, the Tiger dragged Roy down by his arm and Roy hit him in the nose with a microphone. If he passed out, he obviously wouldn't be tapping the microphone on the tiger's nose.
BECAUSE HE HAD YOUR NECK IT SLOWED THE BLEEDING DOWN ENOUGH FOR YOU TO LIVE ! HE REALLY SAVED YOUR LIFE ROY . GOD BLESS BOTH OF YOU ! and your wonderful brite light idea !
Hello how are you doing today?
I can appreciate Roy Horn's defense of Mantecore's behavior (allegedly saving him during a stroke on stage). Nonetheless, Horn was left with permanent partial paralysis. So, we all need to appreciate the damage that a full-grown tiger can do to a person. If a gorilla pulls you out of an overturned vehicle, but it rips your arm off in the process, then I'd find it difficult to defend the gorilla's actions (no matter how grateful you are to that animal). Clearly, Roy Horn loved Mantecore, and all of the other animals that he performed with, but he's been left permanently disabled and he lives with chronic pain.
A fitting end to a barbaric abuser of wild animals, and contempt for those who supported his 'performances'.
One things for sure
Just by what Roy is wearing
We know he definitely had a stroke
LMAOOOOOO
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He's very stupid if he thinks the tiger was trying to save his life.
+Tiberiu Nicolae agree whole heartedly with you im sure they have donated millions to animal conservation aswell. And really it obvisouly wasnt a serious attack by the tiger if it was angry he would have been mauled. poor dude
+BillyBob Just read your opinion. You are wrong. Humans fail to understand how sophisticated animals are about many things, and as a biologist who is now an animal communicator, I realize humans are quite arrogant about our place in the universe. I hope that you'll someday understand what I have experienced, as it is genuinely and overwhelmingly enlightening. There is so much we, in our three-dimensional physical forms, do not perceive. The tiger was doing exactly as Roy reported. I hope that someday you will have a way to understand as I do.
+Denise Norberg-Johnson I respect your biology education; but you sound like you are from another planet or smoking too much dope..
+Lauren Johnson Lol Holy shiet some people are crazy as hell. The only thing I cant believe is that a person could get attacked by a tiger and then not only convince themselves but others that the tiger saved there life. WoW! Now I need to go check out all the tiger attacks here on youtube and ask how is that tiger saving that person hahaha. Funny that all the peeps in the front row saw him fend off the attack with his mic and then lose. I guess when your having a stroke you just start beating a tiger in the nose with whatever is around in till it agree's to save your life. WoWWW!
Too bad that you are both so unenlightened. I do not do drugs, but I understand much more about the things we do not perceive from our 3-dimensional sensory perspective than I did when I was younger. Hopefully, you will both become wiser and think more broadly as you mature. Remember that there is much at work beyond our sensory systems, and that our understanding is much different each time technology reveas some new process that we cannot see, hear, touch, smell, or taste. Our bodies are really primitive in comparison with our souls.
Bro was straight up lying. The USDA did an investigation and concluded the tiger attacked him. Roy just didn't want people disliking his tigers
😂😂😂😂 duh
@@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS you say duh like there aren't tons of comments talking about how good the tigers are
if the tiger wanted to kill him trust me with one bite the tiger would have killed him its that simple!
A tiger just holds the pray until they bleed to death , ua-cam.com/video/sRy87DVF1G8/v-deo.html
@Shelley Fitch It's a wild animal that was raised as if it were a house pet. It attacked because wild animals are unpredictable. There isn't anything "magical" or "mysterious" about the intentions of the creature. The chickens just finally came to roost and he was unfortunately the one it happened to.
The tiger was not trying to save him, he wanted to kill him. Roy pissed him off.
I am an Animal Lover & I was fortunate 2 see their Show. They also have a gorgeous Sanctuary for these beautiful Lions & Tigers who live a "posh" lifestlye, just like Siegfried & Roy!!
I propose this: In their Show, a tiger will appear 2 "give a hug" 2 Roy as it takes a bit of food from him. Now, most of us have seen Lions & Tigers in their Natural Habitat on Discovery, Nat Geo, etc. They only attack when hungry. It's graphic, vicious, ripping & tearing flesh til its prey is DEAD & the feasting begins. THAT did NOT happen in Roy's case w/Mantecore. Mantecore "latched on" & dragged Roy off stage. Why? I don't think Mantecore tried 2 kill Roy. Based on the "Natural Habitat Theory", what do you think?
Thx! X♡
***** You are the one that is crazy. I didn't pay to see them. I'm VIP. Did you even read my 1st paragraph? Have you been to their Sanctuary? It's conducive to a Lavish & SAFE atmosphere for these beauties. SAFER than being in the wild. People HUNT them for sport on Safari! Also, have you not seen a pack of Water Buffalo KILL a Lion? NONE of that will ever happen to Siegfried & Roy's babies. Educate yourself, Dear.
I LOVE ANIMALS!!! XXX♡♡♡
***** So NOW you're "OK" with the "Circle of Life" theory. Choose a side. Btw: Using my words as sarcasm, hmm, your intelligence is beaming. Ciao.
+Msflamingo2008 you are wrong about the "gorgeous sanctuary". It is a dump with drugged animals and constantly dying dolphins.
A McGrath "Doped in a dump surrounded by death"... Explain your opinion. You are the one ill advised.
You can keep calling everyone concerned about the trapped animals ignorant and crazy, but the sad facts remain. Those dolphins held at the Mirage usually die within 3 months of captivity, and they just buy more. The cats have to be treated with daily tranquilizing anti depressant medications to even just to exist in captivity. No wild animals should be in captivity, it is a horrible life sentence to prison.
RIP, Roy. All those animals you tormented over the years are lying in wait for you . . .
It don’t matter how much he loved that tiger it’s still considered an exotic/wild animal
Animals in captivity who performs in exotic shows have been known to attack in frustration, agitation, worry, fear, anxiety or boredom ......
That tiger was annoyed by something and attacked even if it wasn’t intended to kill don’t matter what he said. It but his neck for a reason. Just be lucky he survived,
I am a fan of Siegfried & Roy.
But I Can't believe some people, if you have nothing nice to say or constructive then just stay silent.
fuffingmagic Haters gotta hate.
i saw the show sitting at a front row table when he introduced the new white tiger cub for the first time. i remember he was bonking it on the nose with the microphone and the animal didn't like it. excellent show. outstanding.
God rest Roy Horn ! He and Seingfield were the greatest in Las Vegas .
Not only are they protecting the cat but the profession. Theirs and a select few livelihood. It's a commitment beyond measure.
actually, now that the trainer has told the story, i don't think they
truly respected the tigers enough, the underlying fault was S&R ego,
they wanted to protect the illusion that they were the primary trainers
so they 'trained' them not to go onstage to correct the tigers when
things would go off course, they were to let S&R ad lib but the
problem was that S&R weren't handlers at all, they had no idea how
to handle them. It was a simple mistake, the tiger went off course,
instead of getting him back on course by walking him in a circle to the
proper spot, he tried to guide his body with his hand, which provoked
confusion, then he kept holding the damn mic up to the tiger asking it
what's wrong?, that's when the tiger bit his arm, starting the attack,
it wasn't an attack attack, the tiger held on, until trainer got there,
they stumbled over each other, trainer fell over tiger, Roy fell to
floor, and tiger stared at Roy, tiger didn't grab Roy until Roy started
to retreat. All the while trainer was getting ready to grab tigers
collar. So all in all, they didn't respect the tigers more than their
own ego.
Roy RIP..🙏✝️❤️💐💐💐🐯🐅
Poor fools. They built thier wealth on animal acts, what are they supposed to say. Animals are wild.
"Tigers will kill ya, they'll kiss ya then kill ya" 😂😂😂 whatever that guy said on TV!
It's a very dangerous relation if a man sees a tiger as friend and gives it a name to humanize it. No matter the name , it remains a tiger. For the tiger the man is a prey and when the opportunity is favorable it attacks the man. You can't put your head on the tiger and believe that the tiger has got the same feelings.
I guess that Siegfried and Roy knew the risks. They were so successful. They are smart men. It could be that for the public they tried to present a"we are family" show with tigers.
Timothy Treadwell
Wow!! The first tiger to preform brain surgery! Amazing.
His blood brother. Interesting choice of words.
Roy has tiger blood.
Poor Roy died today 05/08/2020 of coronavirus. Rip
Who woulda thought the tiger was a killer and a doctor.....smfh...who's here from the show " What really happened "
The tiger was obviously trained as a first responder, he was rendering aid until a higher level of care arrived on scene to take over. This is one smart cat that clearly loved his dear friend!!
Play with fire........
No thanks, I'm fine.
RIP Mr Roy. Run free on the wild side. 🐅
Hello how are you doing today 💖
My wife and I see SandR in 1993 and it was a great show.........
Today he went home.
R.I.P Roy Horn
did anyone else get the commercial for animal cruelty for show's before this video?
What a load of crap...but if it the story makes you sleep better at night then go for it
Voltron512 the tiger didn’t try to kill him because if he did he would’ve
WOW, WHAT LIES. It's a wild animal and Roy broke protocol. Tiger WAS NOT trying to save him.
I'm almost positive that Roy , *popping* the *Tiger* *in* *the* *side* *of* *the* *face* , *over* and *over* , had *nothing* to do with his attack !
Roy Horn did not have a stroke on stage and fall down. This tiger headed for the audience was not following protocol and Roy moved between the animal and the audience and smacked the tiger on the nose with the mic. The animal bit down on Roy's arm and the arm started bleeding. Roy was still standing, he fell b/c the animal wouldn't let go. Roy kept trying to gain control, the animal took him by the throat and dragged him off stage.
Sheesh! They tried training Manticore on the defibrillators, but he kept dropping them.
Idk why but this made me cry
All lies we find out now.
One would think that once he was attacked they would stop using wild cats for entertainment purposes
The cat got tired of this goober smoocher so it took a bite out of him. End of story.
You have to respect the fact that they don't blame the animal they caged for the injuries it inflicted. When it comes down to it, thats a chance you take when you cage an animal. NEVER blame a wild animal for being wild.
The animal attacked him. The trainer said so
Beautiful report Rest in peace Roy