Motorized Bikes Disaster Builds Edition
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Due to seeing so many people building cheap low tier builds, especially in the same city as I live in, I felt compelled to do another video focusing on these low end builds. My only goal is to merely spread the word and help people find and/or build quality motorized bikes. I would hate to see people that are just learning about motorized bikes to purchase something sub-par essentially ruining their outlook on the motorized biking world. Motorized bikes have been around for a long time, and are a phenomenal machine, if, they are built correctly.
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2 strokes will last a really long time if the person knows what they're doing and keeps up on proper maintenance. They're also much easier and inexpensive to fix.
but they are much worse for the planet
@@The1stHomosapien Definitely
@@jaredshelton4718 what oil mix is right for the 2t kit?
I got one with damn near 3k on it
@@The1stHomosapien I run 32 to 1 works great if I'm trying to run peak performance I run 40to1
The whole point of these kits is to have fun not flush your wallet down the drain
Mason Olson exactly
Exactly
You got to pay to play.
Spot on!
yeah buy most people are to cheap and get a $80 dollar kit and wonder why it breaks down every week, end up spending a fortune
Not everyone has $1000 dollars to spend on a motorized bike.
Those sprockets aren't that hard to put on!
Yup, pretty easy. I can built the whole bike in 2.5 hours
Exactly
Lol, just can be a little bit of a pain but definitely doable with patience!!!
Me and my dad whose a mechanic built it in 7 hours runs fine this guy is just trying to ruin peoples dreams to make a motorized bike
Yeah it’s not that bad...first time maybe but once you understand it...it’s easy
Damn... This guy must of really got his heart broken by a 2 stroke 💔 lbs
Either that or he doesn't understand them, same as he doesn't understand the wheel.
I think he just doesn't understand them, same way he doesn't understand the wheel.
Yea a little but hurt
🤣
im sorry dude but i disagree with almost everything you said about 2 stroke engines
eh, I'm mainly against 2 strokes because on these kits without vibration mounts they make your dick go numb, and then you can't even feel you've got a woodie.
I figured out it was because it wasn't mounted the full way on because there wasn't enough thread on the bolt, even though it felt like it was snug. It actually doesn't vibrate at all on a nice bike. How-ever I've ridden ones made with walmart bikes and they vibrate like a motherfucker.
I’ve just figured it out.
2 strokes have their purpose
Nothing wrong with disagreeing with the truth.
Bro just saying a 16 year old screaming down the road on a 2 stroke is one of gods greatist gift
14* year old lmao
I agree. . We had to nag mom to spend a grand on a dirt bike when we were kids. Not fun but she was happy when the nagging turned to BBBRRAAAAP BRAAP BRAAAAAAP
Agreed
On the 2nd day God also made 2 strokes, one to intake and compress, one to ignite and exhaust, and God saw that it was good, and so it was... very good!😂
good video but hard to listen to u with this awsome sound of my 2 stroke 😂😂😂
I see what you did there...well played sir, well played.
Hahahahahaha
L O L
Ever had the exhaust fall off before? They sound mean then. More powerful too
@@sampasch3381 gotta check your bolt tension everyday. 2-strokes are great, but they are at the opposite end of the spectrum from "maintenance free" engines.
This guy is just mad he can't use the stock kit to get a 45 mph machine that lasts a minimum of 1500 miles. I'd say that's worth every dollar. I love my noisy smelly two-stroke!
Shaun Aakre yup👍
Same as that. Just over 2000 miles on mine and the only repair ive had to do is replace the clutch cable once and a few rear tyres
It can go 45? What how
We just build one out of a old trashed, 3Times stolen and returned bike, goes 55-60kph it goes faster than a 50cc Scooter, and These Scooter engines are fester than the 4stroke bicycle kit engines
@@shadebike1594 mine can do 65mph no sweat. Do some research
May as well just call yourself a motorcycle builder. The point of motorized bicycles has clearly escaped you.
Kill em' to enjoy the silence fucking exactly 👍
Thank u
Whole point of motorised bikes is cheap transport. Crude yes but highly functional and cheap to run
Motorised bicycles are cheap transportation.
@@alexhickey5633 A HARD YES!!
I disagree entirely with this video. Spend $100 on JUST A SPROCKET? $200 FOR A GOD DANG GAS TANK? Most of the engine kits ARE $80-$100. Sure, there not designed to be quality products, but THEY ARE CHEAP! The only reason people buy motorized bike kits is because they are cheaper than any other gas powered vehicle. If someone has $500 - $1000 they are not going to spend it on one of these stupid "quality" 4 stroke bikes. YOU CAN BUY A CAR FOR $1000. Most of the bikes people install these kits on are $10 goodwill bikes. This guy is trying to rip you off and promote his business. 2 strokes are just fine. Hell, even the Trabant 601 had a 2 stroke.
I'm trying to rip you off? LMAO! You may want to put a little more effort in to some good ole quality research and paying attention before you go off on a rant. Had you done some research or even paid any attention you would notice that I don't sell anything! So, since I don't sell anything, in fact I actually give some stuff away for free and even pay the shipping, please tell me how I am trying to rip people off, because I'm dying to know! Also if you would do some more research you would find there are a lot of people that spend $500-$1,000 and in some case way more than that! Also, more research would tell you that these bikes even at $1,000 will pay for themselves in one year or less verses this $1,000 car you speak of which will probably last 500 miles before it needs twice what you paid for it in repairs. I'm all for criticism, but do your research before you blast someone.
Oh, I almost forgot...Happy Holidays!
I got a 96 Ford Ranger for $1000. 5 - speed manual. 136,000 miles. No rust. No transmission problems. Took it to the mechanic and no obvious large problems. Heating, AC, and radio all work. Has a bed liner. Click profile for pics.
I didn't realize you are not a business. I only assumed this because you act like you have competition. Most people don't spend $200 on a gas tank.
Not me, I have a really expensive Rat Fink chopper cruiser and it's about having fun and doing with style and coolness...lol
Yep, had to stop the video once you said four strokes are more powerful. That is an outright non-truth. Nothing can touch a two stroke since it's actually bigger than it is times two over a four stroke. With the right pipe they are silent and rev much faster and much higer. Too much oil and the fuel ratio will go towards air, too little oil and the mixture gets richer because the viscosity changes. If you run the premium oil and get to know it so that you can recognize when it's hot, it's no big deal and I have many hundreds of thousands of miles on them. If it breaks I can fix it in minutes, no one can rebulld a four stroke in less than a hour or so. Ten minutes out in the hills and I can carry an extra engine because they are so light and so cheap. Hell I usually have 55Lbs of tools, so what would an extra 6 pounds mean to me? Nice try, if you can show me a 250cc engine that makes 56 HP like my 2000 Kx250, then maybe I'll hear ya, till then keep dreamin. Nice looking bikes by the way , but please keep the educational stuff REAL.
Yeah I have an TZR 125 lc that runs about 28hp, very safe and reliable. An older air cooled RD 250 that made 68hp on the dyno and can run to about 10500 rpm. Oh and a tomos that could not be any more basic and still makes enough power to drag my 13st to about 47mph with ease.
@@sizzlean9459 The Yamaha 250 air cooked twin I have is 1979 model. Then they went to the lc. I think outside the UK they were called an RZ. Mine has a set of race tunned barrels along with crankcase modifications to match and a pair of 34mm mikuni carbs. The standard carbs are 28mm. I have compression up from 7:1 to 9.2:1 after that the ignition can not cope. Set of allspeed expansion chambers and race baffles So just about double the factory hp. The TZR 250 is an absolute animal and I wish I had one, but my 125 is a Stan Stephens engined deltabox framed TZR125RR sp which can be taken to 33hp. I keep mine on the safe side and realistic numbers. Still hits about 105. Love 2stroke motors! When they start building 4 stroke chainsaws I'll listen. 35cc chainsaw can make about 3hp and run about 11000rpm.
What exhaust makes them "silent" without losing power? Having alot of fun with them, but boy are they loud.
Dude but the 212cc and 79cc four strokes can hit 50 something mph easily out of the box
@@anonymousproductions1792 YOu know what, I love riding in the dirt or on the street, I love not having to pedal sometimes and I think we have come to a point where this 2t vs. 4t has just become dumb. Right now we have snakes in office everywhere and they would love nothing more than to delete our ability to do any riding and they don't give a shit whether my ride uses GEET and burns piss and spits out oxygen or what, they just hate all fun and don't enjoy life unless their is a cock in their mouth or ass or at least that is the way I choose to see them. So with that in mind, how bout we just agree to be riding lovers and brothers and give up the argument? All I'm going to say is 50 MPH is hauling ass, I"m not your babysitter and you may have gone that fast and think you know what's up but the truth is you don't know shit until you've wrecked at that speed and here is my advice....DONT. I'm never one to tell someone "that's too fast" I'm just one who has seen too much meat hanging out of compound fracture holes in the skin and so I'll just say a helmet won't help with the compound fractures and actually you might want to be brain bashed and retarded if you get one so be careful and get all your wrecking out of the way on the soft dirt and make sure your breaks work or you've got enough pad on the bottom of your shoes to get slowed down. I just wish everyone would remember that it's not 4t vs 2t, it's us against them and since they are almost all a bunch of whining bitches who always resort to passing laws against us while they ruin the world with all their ways, try not to piss them off for the sake of the rest of us. Try to remember some of us didn't first choice choose this way but had to resort because of troubles our of own causing and so every law they pass against Me can make my life so much harder so always try not to piss off the "normal" people, especially the ones with 20,000 dollar carbon fiber frames, they are the worst and always do the most damage. Make them think we are the most respectful and nicest people by beinug that way and do it for the whole club we have they are not in.
i feel like for most people this is a CHEAP means of transportation. If I'm buying a $100 kit I'm not going to spend $200 on a gas tank or $100 on a new sprocket. Maybe for the hobbyist this would be a god idea.
Certain parts need to be swapped out for safety. Rag Joints suck. That cheap chain tensioner is death.
@@YorHighness Yeah I just shortened mine by removing links and reconnecting it via the master link. I heard those things can lean over with time and end up locking up the back wheel and potentially causing a crash. I certainly wouldn't want to crash mine, especially because my engine is on a vintage Murray Baja bike.
Keep that PMA ✊🏼🌲🤙🏻
he says he can flex the sprocket with his hands,,i would like to see him try after its bolted on,, just sounds like a complete hater to me
I know I'm 4 years late but no fucking way he can lol he said he's "not strong" well I am strong and I immediately tried when he said that. Nope, not even close
Most people that own these do not have $1000. to spend on a a bike.
psymetal It's the classic question of, do you want to spend more right away on something good, or more down the road on repairs and new parts, not to mention down time.
exactly
+Sinister Custom Cycles
I prefer two stroke bike kits because of their price, I don't ride my bike long distances so breaking down is not a problem, nor do I care for how long it lasts(I spent 120$ on my kit)
It's best to save till until you can afford one of my Harley Bee 2 strokers or one of this guys bikes. And never forget about Freddy at CR MACHINE. I use his stuff here people ask me for his parts and stuff. This man makes a lot of sense the same exact words are in my Harley Bee videos. I prefer the 2 strokers however cheaper to repair easier to get parts from guys like me answer our phones and e-mails asap. If ya need it we get right out to ya if it's in stock... Our bikes are not cheapo Wal-Mart bikes and our bikes are not cheap period I spend on the average $300 to restore older heavier bicycles see my videos even my latest ones this month last month same words. Also the words NOT CHEAP repeatedly...
i only spent 350 motor and green line cruiser brand new
i love 2 strokes, best thing ever made
True this guy has no clue what he is talking about. 2 strokes are actually more quite and have 2x the power of a 4 stroke. I'm 12 years old and I can rebuild the top of an engine. This guy shouldn't say things that he doesn't know about.
every 2 stroke gas bike I see around here are leaky, messy, noisy, and smokes a lot. My 4 stroke is 4 years old and it is as clean as the day I put it on. It runs better than any of the 2 stroke kits. Much more reliable. Mine starts very easy even after 4 years. The same cannot be said of 2 strokes. They are basically made out of cheap pot metal. I know. My first build was a 2 stroke. It was constantly falling apart when I was riding it due to excess vibration. The internal flywheels are not balanced and the cheap needle bearings on the crank and in the piston fall to pieces and literally destroy the engine.
I've had people with 2 stroke setups around here beg me to help them build a 4 stroke setup because they are far more reliable and require much less maintenance. 2 stroke bike engines might be smaller, lighter, and have more power but these are not well designed at all. And the quality of the engine is very bad. Almost like a use for a few months then throw away.
I can vouch for what this guy is saying because i've had both 2 stroke and 4 stroke kits. Out of the box the 4 stroke setup is much better due to the reliability. My 2 stroke setups were leaky dirty, greasy and very noisy.
Zach312M SC I am 13 and ride a yz 250 I know about engines
Logan Williamson *yfz?
Got that right!!
The noise of a 2 stroke keeps u safer. Had a lady almost pull in front of me til she heard me
I recommend people build a bike with the cheap kit, run the crap out of them and upgrade parts as they see necessary. definitely don't go out and get "quality" parts for your first build. This guy is a die-hard enthusiast that is invested into the hobby at a level that many people will never be. Go out and enjoy your bikes and don't let snobby enthusiasts tell you otherwise.
Snobby enthusiasts? If building a quality bike from the start to show others what the possibilities are have a quality dependable bike from the start makes me that, then I guess I'm guilty. So I'm guessing you buy a cheap car and repair as you go? Maybe a cheap house? Maybe a cheap $8.00 pair of Velcro shoes and then just glue them together as needed?
Those aren't even comparable because they aren't hobbies. You wouldn't buy a cheap house to test wether you'd get into the hobby of owning a house... duh. But I WOULD buy a cheap fishing pole to see if I would get into the hobby of fishing.
Custom doesn't mean the most expensive stuff
Whoa!! Somebody wants to sell expensive bicycles!! Iive got a 2 stroke kit, it was fun put in it together. yeah it needs some manteinance to be running ok, but I like taking care of my bike so I dont mind, it's my weekend hobby. 2 strokes are fun and you can upgrade and modify almost everything on it, you can't do that with a 4 stroke. so far my motor is running fine and my bike is so much fun
There are much better ways to promote your bikes than bashing the compition.
+Kirby Actually I'm not selling bikes so "bashing" is quite irrelevant. Stating facts based on subscriber emails and seeing issues first hand of people I know is again simply stating facts, not "bashing".
Sinister Custom Cycles oh
the two stroke kits require the individual to be somewhat mechanically inclined and have the ability to modify parts of the kit to make it work. In my opinion, you get more bang for your buck with 2 stroke kits.
My 2 stroke hyper motor went 13,000 miles.A friend put another motor that had 600 miles. I had my motorized hyper 3 plus rears
My 2 stroke has done over 10,000 kilometers.It is excellent.My the correct oil mix there is very little smoke.
And what is the perfect ratio?
@@gunesfb1907 20:1
My engine never smokes I use a 50:1 mix with a lil bit of octane boost I go 22 miles a day plus and only have to make minor tweaks love my 2stroker!
I go 30:1 because i want it to last longer.
Thanks for your advice. Could you tell me which sprocket kit you've chosen ? and where I could get it, please. Thanks
Been building for 13 + years man.
The cheap 2 stroke kits go forever if you know what your doing man.
The cheap 2 strokes are almost bullet proof, you can mix the gas with filtered used oil and they work.
I've never had one fail.
Everyone knows the hardware in the kits are crap.
I've never had an issue with rear sprockets. I've had plenty of issues with cheap rims.
Never warped a sprocket.
Never had a tank leak.
I've got these things to work and ride reliably in -40 with studded tires in the winter. The cheap 2 strokes.
Hub mounted sprocket adapters do work better, but not required.
If your spending over $300 to build a reliable motorized bicycle. You do not know what your doing. And you don't know what your talking about.
If your gonna spend the $.
Buy a motorcycle.
A reliable, Japanese engine alone, two or four stroke, costs $200+. The sprocket adapters that come with the kits are unsafe, unreliable, and very hard or impossible to adjust properly. The clamp on adapter is well worth the $75. A quality bicycle that's safe to use with a motor (disk brakes at the very least) is going to be at least $300. Yes, you can build one for under $300, but it will feel like a yugo compared to a corvette. And by the way, a decent cheap motorcycle will cost twice as much as a bike built using the components I mentioned, and you have to register and insure it, and get a license.
Fyi, "professional" means you make money, doesn't mean you're good at it.
This guy just bothers me he says stuff that bothers him we don't need your opinion 2 strokes are really good and aren't really hard to maintain at all
i agree i know people who have put it on there walmart 80 dollar bike and didnt have any frame issues unless you try to drive them like your in a motorcross rally now thats a different story a two cycle is better but everyone has there own preference now i am not saying this guy is wrong but i believe the two cycle is the way to go especially when there are performance parts that are more availabe now also if you run a 4 stroke wide open all the time vs two stroke, two stroke wins because it's designed for higher RPM vs four stroke either way i dont see much benefit with the 4 stroke engine unless you get the jack shaft kit, and for some reason this guy has to trash other builders just to gain business so evan johnson i am with you.
+Andrew Sybert yes but it takes time to mix the fluids, they have an average recomended ride time of 30 minutes, the are loud and squealy while four stroke is just put gas in has 60 min recomended max ride time and has smoother rides along with being a low, rumbling noise.
+NotSoNerdGaming yeah mixing the gas takes a extra 10 seaconds. And a 4 stroke is heavier and aren't ass powerful
+Andrew Sybert yeah thanks all you have to do is make sure everything's tight , greased, and oiled and your good. Companies allways talk crap about other companies to make more money I work on this kind of still all the time from atv, dirt bike, and cars so all you do is need to make sure everything is on perfectly and take good care of your equipment
NotSoNerdGaming I see
hi where do I buy the fuel tank, and the sprocket holder from? I live in the UK..
also what 4 stroke engine would you recommend? I would like 50cc or more
Awesome, thanks for the info, also, do you know if sisnister can make a bottom braket for pedels and how to route is on a Jesse James chopper bicycle
I have a 2010 2 stroke 80cc and still running strong, had it stored away for almost 2 yrs, took it out an still runs strong. Blow them 4 strokes out of the water.
Your use of your bike is to "blow them 4 strokes out of the water"? Maybe you should be fighting ISIS instead?? Besides, who wants to ride any bicycle in the water? Swim or snorkle or scuba instead. Get real....
@@kenpisichko1340
“ and this kids, is what you call a failed attempt at trying to be funny.”
Dude dont you think that you are just a very regular user of your motorized bike ? I want to use my cheap one just a few times a month , why would I pay more for a not regular use?
*Whats a good affordable 4stroke engine kit to buy?? I have an old worksman I wanna put a motor on. I have a couple 2-strokes its time for me to try the 4stroke for cruisin'*
where do you find these engines? i wanted to build a motorized bike that had gears but a already assembled package seems best but haven't found any yet
I have been playing with these engines every sense i was big enough to push a lawn mower! They're not Rocket science at all. With a Walmart Bike and a little common sense they will work just fine. Although a hub mounted Sprocket is a very good idea. (IMO) With little to no budget You can build a Two Stroke that will run just as good if not better than a four stroke and have a LOT OF FUN in the process!!! I have seen two strokes smoke less then some four strokes as well... Safety and common sense is key!!!
I've done hundreds of miles with the original rear sprocket rag joint setup, no problems at all
with the sprocket you were talking about i have seen them but how to they not rotate when you go to start it
What is the difference between 4g 5g? and i see that you have the centrificul clutch like you mentioned does the stock set up work as well or the same ?? please reply.
+sabrom I could be wrong on this but I believe the only difference between the 4G and the 5G engine kits were that the 4G was a belt drive and the 5G was a chain drive. There may have been some other minor differences with some of the other parts in the kit but that was the most notable. I've always had good luck with the stock drives but on my current builds I'm going to try a new type of drive that claims to deliver more torque and top speed. Thank you very much for the comment and for watching!
You're pretty unreasonably biased towards two strokes, there's benefits to both and it's a matter of preference
I think most builders seeming to forget that this is a bicycle! not a motor cycle...and only a assisted one at that.I also think you should not but down other builders its not your place just looks tacky!!..but agree you should point out why you do what you do etc..
Lawrence Harasim I completely agree I may have been walking a fine line between explaining what I do, and putting someone's work down. However when it's a safety risk to someone making false claims, I felt compelled to direct attention towards his page in hopes of if enough people point things out he may consider putting a little more effort in to his builds. Agreed! People are pushing these bikes way too much. You're going to like the next build I'm starting soon lol.
Thank you for the video. I'm 64 yr old female, 6 mo new to this, with some electrical n mechanical skills. Wanted to get around n enjoy not having to pedal/drive/walk n save $. Bought my 1st 2-stroke on CL $600. I'm on my 2nd bike, the1st got stolen. Wish I had seen this video before I got into this. Loved both bikes, but the constant breakdown (within weeks after purchases) of the cheap Chinese kit on Huffy frame + part replacement have been a Huge Turn-Off. Constant tweaking: wheel bearings, alignment issues, trottle cables, mag nettles, leaky gas tanks, saggy chains, wheel true'ng, muffler almost fell off, inconstant power, black box replacement... the list goes on n on.
+Lawrence Harasim Engine on a bicycle = motor cycle
Hi I just watched your video, can you please tell me where you got the sprocket adapter ?, and 4 stroke motor
hi where can u get the sprocket. I have a bike and fitted the sprocket successfully but I'd much rather have that upgrade sprocket. please help. ;)
Dude all I heard was you downing someone else's work and the quality of things. Well I hate to tell you but I own I motorized bike and yes its a 2 Stroke and you know some people cant AFFORD A $1000 DOLLAR DAMN BIKE AND PARTS SO SHOVE IT
These "custom bikes" cost thousands of dollars (why wouldn't you buy a real motorcycle instead?? I can easily find a used motorcycle for under $1000.) You forgot to mention how easy it is to work on 2 strokes. 2stokes dont mess with valves or cam systems or any of that crap like the 4 strokers do. The whole reason why 2 strokes are better is because they are so SIMPLE and cheap. If something catastrophic happens to my 2 stroke engine, no biggie, ill buy a whole new one for $150 bucks... Final verdict, For the same price as those "custom bikes" i could have a nice REAL motorcycle AND a nice little 2 stroker bicycle.
2 strokes only 4 moving parts easy cheap.
exactly
where would i get the part u talked about.i am sick of buying $200 in spokes for my bike. And the boost bottle whats do you u think about them? I heard they work and they do not. if u could can u do a reviwe on it so i know what i am gettng in to?
I have a question i just got done with a bike 49 cc 2 stroke friction drive engine on my mountain bike i made all the brackets to make it work but too much noise i don't like that kind is it posable to swap out to a 4 stroke?
I'm not too familiar with friction drive units to be honest. The research I have done seems to be 2 stroke units only.
I wanted a 4 stroke originally, but a 4 stroke 80cc motor is sold out EVERYWHERE, and I just cant have the wimpy 49cc one that goes a maximum of a mind blowing 15-20 mph! No way! so fast! I guess I'm settling for the 2 stroke that I already bought because of inconveniences, fuck me.
+Zach Campbell Good morning! So there is no doubt about it that 2 strokes have more power and they are the Honda Civic of engines in terms of modifications. As far as 4 strokes go though I have always got 30-33MPH top speed. Now there are different sprocket options out there that will give you low torque and higher top speed like the speeds I mentioned above or a bigger sprocket will give you high torque for hills and such but lower top speeds at about 21-23MPH. Depending on your mechanical aptitude there are other possible options too. If you have any questions you can either email me at sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com or Facebook.com/sccmn. Thank you for your message and support!
Sinister Custom Cycles What also sucks, is my kit didn't even come with the sprocket plates the half moon ones, I have the 3 piece side but not the 2 piece side, I just tightened it with 3 piece and just the tightened nuts on the other side and it seems to be holding up just fine
+Zach Campbell Oh wow, that's not good at all. I would definitely keep a close eye on that. I can't believe that someone hasn't come out with a kit where you don't have to throw 90% of the crap away. I would love to see a kit that had all higher end parts for people.
Me too, I can't even find it where to buy on the Internet since many different websites call it different things, half moon backing plates, 2 piece sprocket clamps, 2 piece 9 hole plates, if the chain comes off at 30 miles per hour and kills me, it's all on that guy from ebay who is selling an unbranded 2 stroke motor that appeared legit with 5 star reviews and a top seller sticker
+Zach Campbell Hey why don't you email at sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com and then later tonight I'll reach out to some of my suppliers and see what I can find for you.
80cc FTW 👍
Where can I fine the sprocket that you recommend?
I have a west coast chopper that I want to put a 4 stroke engine whats the website u recommend?
Those dropouts where not broken by anything the motor done
Possibly hard braking at excessive speed?
@@eccentricfolf3117 maybe but looks much more like ham fisted spanner work.
@@captainchaos3053 You're not wrong.
I literally just bought 105 dollar bike kit and it's been working fine for months, not to mention it's a two strole
i bought a $145 dollar one and it breaks down everyweek, they all do the parts are under $20 so its ok but not something you can depend on , and mixing oil
Where do you get the heavy duty rear mounted hub sprocket adaptor?
I have a 2 stroke and have had good luck with it but now over a year and now it's acting up I have been torn between the two (2 stroke or 4 stroke) I am just wondering if you can point me in the direction of where to get either one
Right about everything except...except the 2 vs 4 stroke thing....your gonna pay a lot more to make a 4 stroke come even close to a 2 stroke. This guy claims to be an expert...he should learn more about engine building first...anybody can bolt expensive stuff together. 2 stroke engines are more for people who know what they're doing. ANY idiot can run a 4 stroke....but you have to have some engine experience to mess with 2 strokes...mine is a well tuned...non oil leaking 4 stoke smoker...I eat 4 strokes all day long...any time you wanna race those slow...low rpm 4 strokes...come on down
2 strokes are for enthusiasts, who love to work on them. 4 strokes are for noobs who just want to get from A to B. If you know what you're doing, and you like to go fast, 2 strokes are the way to go.
sorry most of the 4-stroke kits have a higher top speed and last 2-3 times longer without the cost of oil and upkeep the 2 cycles always end up costing more in the long run.ting ding ding ding
@@unrealinventor2006 lol
Ok, where do you get the sprocket adapter?
where do you get the good sprockets? i don't even know if i can get a good sprocket because i live in canada and there are not that many motorized bicycle companies here and a lot of the US companies don't ship to here for some reason
Wish I had watched this before I bought a $180 motor kit and a 29" bike from Walmart :(
Pschh 2 strokes are the shit. So much more power than a four stroke given the same displacement. Lol, and getting the gas oil ratio right is hardly rocket science. Noisy yeah, but who cares (except the neighbors lol)
i have 2 china 2 strokes they always break but parts are under $20 and my 4 stroke which hasnt broke yet and is 4 years old, i can depend on the 4 stroke for hot days and going t work but the 2 stoke is like gambling , but fun , it could always break down the 2 stroke
Omg Smokey and noisy? That’s the fun part! Love them Smokey noisy things.
Hey can u plz tell me where i can get a better gas cap that wont leak that i can use in the skyhawk gt frame with the built in gas tank? I like your vids ....but at the end of the day imma two stroke man lol u are very informative though ....you asked for video suggestions. ...full jackshaft kit build. ..nobody has made one yet and the directions are minimal i paid $300 for the kit and had to figure it out myself ....
kings motored bike .com
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so what people cant make a living making 2 stroke bikes? so do people make UA-cam videos about your work or job? people always trying to one up someone.
+Matthew Easley I'm pretty sure I never said that no one can make a living making 2 stroke bikes. I'm also pretty sure I was stating facts from subscribers messages and emails from their experiences with a wide array of engines, especially the 2 strokes. Just like with everything though you cannot please everyone unfortunately. When people are putting the cheapest parts available together and then someone puts the highest end parts then they are suddenly the bad guy. I build my bikes to the best of my ability and my next builds coming soon will raise the bar even more. I don't sell them, or claim to be an expert in anything, I just build my bikes my way and try to share that people in hopes that will help someone.
got ya cool
Please don't call yourself a "professional" at building motorized bikes, no one is a professional at this, your just putting a f*cking 100 dollar weed wackier engine on a 100 dollar Chinese bicycle, think about that, Btw this video is biased against 2 strokes and people who build these for fun....
long live two strokes
Right on. It's just for fun.
I do also note you caught the 2 stroke Prejudice here. 2 strokes are more powerful for size and volume. They can be muffled so they are not loud like dirt bikes. They are simpler in design and weigh less. Also if you know what you are doing they can be tuned to squeeze more power from them without having to bore and stroke them. They also are easier to mount to a bike. YOU sir must be a fellow 2 stroke owner!
Ride to live, live to ride, and have fun doing it!
What is the cc displacement size of the 4 stroke engine. In Ontario Canada there is a 49cc engine size limit before its considered something other than a motorized bicycle.
Good evening! All the 4 stroke engines in all my videos that I use on my builds are 49cc 4 strokes so you should be good! Any other question feel free to email at sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com or you can also find my at facebook.com/sccmn for more info and upcoming builds! Thanks for the message!
Very informative and helpful...
One question: At 2:15, when did it happen and how?
This guy is right about some of the things but honestly for under $300 you can have an amazing miniature 2 stroke chopper.
Parts:
$80 Walmart Cranbrook huffy bike
$120 2 stroke kit from Amazon (shipped with prime)
$40-50 CNC rear hub sprocket mount
$15 engine mounted spring chain tensioner
For a bit more cash you can add some performance mods.
$50 high compression head
$50 expansion pipe exhaust
$20 boost bottle (kinda iffy on this mod)
different sprocket sizes
etc.
Porting and polishing the 2 strokes for more power is easy, so honestly its a fun hobby grade mode of transportation, but you kinda have to do some research before you get into it, the info is all on the interwebs.
This is my exact setup and its been running strong for almost 3 years now.
Anyone who trusts their life to a coaster brake, especially a shitty huffy one, is insane or suicidal. Disk brakes, or at the least quality caliper brakes, are a requirement for a motorized bike. There's a reason no e-bikes have coaster brakes.
I had multiple two strokes I ran for five years or more and simply sold them to build something new. They run great as long as you take care of them. Plus I wasn't a "tuner" that wanted to get 50 mph out of it either.
Reminds me of a moped forum I used to visit and looked down on these engines like Lego purists do on Lepin.
Where do you get that hub mounted sprocket?
Do you know what those type of bicycles called, that you you recommended?
I recently got a "cheap" build 80cc 2stroke for free from a buddy not to mention this is on a 80$ Wal-Mart bike with no shocks I love it for now and it has got me inspired to upgrade and do a build of my own and this video has given me a lot of insight on how to do it right, thank you 👍
what is the motor you are talking about that you are going to use next and where could I get one?
+Victor Perkins The engine I showed and talked about was a horizontal 4-stroke like they use with the older mopeds and pit bikes. I changed my mind on using these since they have too much power for a simple bike frame and would require extensive modification which a lot of people wouldn't have access to or the funds for so I decided to stick to simple builds that is in everyone's reach. I saw you messaged me on Facebook so I'll go in to more detail there as in where to source them. Thanks for the comment!
Sinister Custom Cycles too much power? makes sense.. the right gearing large output ring might make it very good for towing loads? lots of tourque !! i waant to tow and make camper haha
Do they make all types of sprockets for motorized bikes I've been looking for a sprocket for my motorized bike and is less than an inch. If u can help me I'm looking for a beach cruiser m a 26in mountain bike sprockets. Thank u for ur help.
I honestly didn't watch the video, but was trolling the comments since I saw evidence of another 2 stroke basher so I couldn't resist joining in. All I know is I am no mechanic, actually a retired old disabled burse, and I decided to see if I could build one of these. So since them I've built around 20, and sold them locally. So all I know is you can get a decent quality used mountain bike cheap, tune it up and buy a kit from one place and for about $200 you get what you see, a bike that you can take anywhere, is rock solid dependable, and when properly tuned with jetting and fuel and the rest will hit an honest gps 52mph on flat ground, (at the end of video, and the very end on the last street was 0- 44mph in only about 3 blocks) the engine is a YD100 with banana pipe, 7.5mmjet, C-clip at highest(lean) setting, 93Super premium gas obtained from a small local airfield, (yes it does make a big difference, regardless of what they say) and a 32 tooth rear sprocket, except for opening the end of banana pipe to 1 3/4 buy just sawing it off, bike is a Diamonback Outlook mountain bike I bought for $50, kit was $159 to my door and after rding it for 3 moths I sold it for $550 and the owner is still flying around on it, no disrespect, js...but it never happened if its not on video right?
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Nice tips. But what the name of the last 4 stroke engine you showed. I want to buy one.
Joshua Gill The last engine that I showed was a Lifan horizontal 4-stroke engine. These are NOT designed as a bolt on option for bicycles, so there will be a fair amount of modification and fabrication needed to the frame to fit this in.
I actually just purchased a cheap 80cc 2 stroke engine kit and some accessories for it for my 29 inch Walmart bike that cost the same as the engine kit, $120. I have seen so many positive reviews for them it's insane and I just had to pull the trigger and get one to install to see what it's all about.
I think initial break in is very important, just as important as regular maintenance, for engine longevity. A lot of the complaints seem like lack of maintenance and know-how. Other complaints seem to be from poorly informed installations. I've seen an expensive kit put together by someone I knew (well over $200 kit...) and the fuel line was laying on the cylinder head...
I think the bottom line is education with these installs and spending money in the right places depending on usage.
You do make some very valid points about cheaply put together kits and listed some parts I didn't know existed for these set-ups, but some people don't have the money to spend more and need cheap, go anywhere, transportation.
For me this build is just a toy. I will ride it the very short distance to work and back and some light trail riding if I trust it not to strand me. Eventually I'll build my own 4 stroke engine brackets to install on a bike I plan on keeping, but that'd cost around, if not more than, $750. Not worth it unless I like it since I can pick up an SSR 110cc dirt bike for the same price.
This is a very good and informative video though. I subbed to your channel and look forward to watching your other vids.
Built mine out of a real Indian bike frame. Welded trusses on the fork, fabbed up my own motor mounts, moved the seat, welded up a fuel tank and instant and board tracker! it’s a 4 stroke, complete with an air filter made out of a soup can. Lol
I will say, I learned real fast to ditch the rag joint and get the adapter. The 114 year old rims wouldn’t hold a tune, so I replaced them with a set of 11 guage spokes rims. Got rid of the 44 tooth sprocket for a 40. Better but still not great. Running a 36 tooth now and it’s awesome.
The WORST thing in the whole kit is the chain tensioner. I ended up welding a small block Chevy alternator bracket between the chain and seat stays.
Ride it to work every day! Cheap to run and a blast to drive
Hey brother where do I get the sprocket from?
I got a $100 48cc 2-stroke kit. If I didn't have a $30,000 automotive education, I wouldn't have been able to keep it running for more than a month or two. A full rebuild and $400 dollars later, I have an awesome setup. It's very reliable, and goes 35mph on level road. I've even had it going 47mph downhill! 😃
Thanks for warning us, lad! 👍
Where can i find the rear mounted sprocket?
You can get the sprocket with the hub adaptor at bikekerry.com or sickbikeparts.com
Dude....I want to see you flex that sprocket. You are full of it if you think you can.
where do you get the hub mounted sproket
+Shawn Duckett Hello Shawn! Go to mmbikeparts.com for the rear hub mounted sprocket. They also have a lot of other parts available on their site. Thank you very much for watching! Any other questions or if you want to keep up with more details on the builds feel free to email me at sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com or Facebook.com/sccmn
so what is that horizontal engine? i want to use this
+shleleeep fastrracing Good morning! The horizontal 4-stroke is commonly found on pit bikes and scooters which range from 49cc to 155cc H.O. I was going to do a build with one of these but I wanted to keep it simple and sensible since not everyone has the funds or the ability to do extensive modification and fabrication to get that set up to work on a regular bike frame. Plus 49cc is more than enough power for any standard bike, anything more than that just won't be safe at all. If you still want the information on these engines shoot me a message at either sinistercustomcycles@gmail.com or Facebook.com/sccmn and I'll let you know where to get them. Thank you for watching and for the comment! Happy holidays!
Are there 80cc 4 stroke engines? I really would like a 4 stroke but I simply need more than 49cc for the hills in my area
What you need in those conditions is a properly assembled 2 stroke and to put the most work in the transmission rates for your particular case.
Power to weight ratio of even these "stone age" 2 strokes are better than any 4 stroke... Choose wisely. ;-)
Where can I find one of those sprockets
can you share some links to get the engines and parts??
Love that CNC sprocket adapter design. For sure looks allot better than the kit crap. A Honda GX50 engine & a CNC sprocket adapter is what I'm thinking of doing on my next build using an old local bike shop beach cruiser from the late 90's when bikes were made practically bulletproof. The tricky part would be installing a clutch adapter to work with a Qmatic transmission from EZ Motorbikes which I prefer more than the Grubee crap. But Honda engine + Qmatic transmission + CNC sprocket adapter + good solid bike made in ether Japan or America (local bike shop bike from 80's 90's or early 2000's) = a very reliable build.
James , get one for $50 complete at gasbike.net
Where do I get that sprocket at?
only problem ive ever had with mine was the chain tension pulley, which i fixed by using a rubber sleeve to stop it from migrating down the lower rail.
I would love to have gotten that rear sprocket but I had to use the original because I didn't have extra $100 for the good one and I have a two stroke engine and it runs just fine mine doesn't smoke it all depends if you know what you're doing or not I'm out of mix my oil and gas ratio perfectly and my motor is not that loud my bike runs fine I just need to take it off that cheap-ass Walmart bike and I'm looking for a good bike to put it on any recommendations on a bike that I can use that could handle the motor
Who do you buy you 4stroke motors from???
I used to get them from gasbike dot net but have had terrible service from them so I have been trying to find a different vendor and have not found any yet that sell the 7G kits, but I'll update when I find something.
I’ve had my 80 cc two stroke on a huffy for like 3 to 4 months and basically drove to work everyday had no issues other than tightening bolts over time I have 120 bucks into my bike I would recommend 10 out of 10 but to each there own
Where can I find these good quality bikes and parts
what is that horizontal engine you showed at the end? you know the brand and model and price range?
+tacticsandgear Hello Tactic! The horizontal 4-stroke is made by quite a few different companies but the most recognized name will probably be Lifan. It's the same style engine that they use on pit bikes and range from 49cc up to about 155cc. The nice thing about these is that the price is pretty reasonable considering they have a built in 3 or 4 speed transmission. I've seen them range from under $300 up to about $550 for the 155cc HO model. One of my next builds will be using this style engine. Thank you for watching and if you have any other questions feel free to email at sinistercustomcycles@gmail or for more updates go to Facebook.com/sccmn
Sinister Custom Cycles awesome, thank you!
+tacticsandgear You're very welcome!
so, where can one purchase a Zminglu1968 engine?
where can buy that exact gas tank 6:17
any 4 stroke kits you can recommend me?
DJCryptoKnight 4 stroke or none
built a motorized bike with an old $80 specialized rockhopper from a garage sale, same wheels, same hubs, same everything. put a $110 90cc 2 STROKE motor on it from a sketchy website from china, the same one that gives you shivers.
with a rich gas mixture and a poorly tuned carb that thing ran for over 2 years having overheated numerous times in the summer and beaten numerous times in the winter; and it was a BLAST. i rode that thing everywhere, probably had over 300 miles on it.
i never maintained it once. not even a spark plug, yet it chugged along just fine, none of the problems you described. towards the end it was struggling to idle but didn't seem to have lost power.
it finally died when i lent it to a friend and he cooked it for 4 hours straight in 90 degree weather because he didn't know what he was doing. when i got it back it was still trying to turn over despite all the seals being gone, piston rings gone, and lower end bearing noise like crazy. so it probably had another year left in it.
not a single crack on the frame on the 'unfit' bike, the rubber mounted untrued hub never had problems, the chain despite having stretched a ton didn't come off when i tightened the tensioner, and no catastrophic failure in the clutch housing.
that thing costed 4 bucks to fill including oil and ran on the same tank for a 4 days. the tank was about a quarter gallon because it took a quarter of the 1 gallon tank to fill. so 1 gallon in roughly 2 weeks. even with how much i beat on it.
over all, it was worth the 200 bucks 10 times over. if you're thinking about building one, do it. just make sure your exhaust clears your pedals before the first ride. if it doesn't, just bend it to size! then you got the most fuel efficient, eye catching, 'reliable,' and cheap contraption on the road.
if you do decide to dump a grand into though, more power to you! even better.
What kind of bike I that at the beginning of the video.
Has anyone connected to the gear change side?
Think I'd rather work with the "disaster" builder "know it all" over this know it all.
Sinister, this really makes you look bad.