China’s influence over Africa is starting to wear thin

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @picandvideo
    @picandvideo 3 місяці тому +40

    Let Africa to decide their own path. Stick to yours.

  • @level1selamat155
    @level1selamat155 3 місяці тому +15

    Pockets of most UK citizens are wearing thin😢😢😅

    • @sandrathompson6381
      @sandrathompson6381 3 місяці тому +2

      😂 what they did with all the that stolen resources

    • @TH-c1k2
      @TH-c1k2 3 місяці тому +1

      us too

    • @aranduser
      @aranduser 3 місяці тому

      @@sandrathompson6381 They ate them out, things got processed in the tummy and got flushed out down the drain.

  • @paulmatters2641
    @paulmatters2641 3 місяці тому +34

    Its just wonderful to listen to an Englishman prescribing whats best for Africa. The empire died some time ago chaps. Worry about your own wretched country.

    • @xiaosenxie2774
      @xiaosenxie2774 3 місяці тому

      The English are butthurt that their empire died ages ago so now all they can do is take potshots & call China "neo-colonialist".

    • @168Jon
      @168Jon 3 місяці тому +4

      Yes indeed. Britain like most of the western countries should worry about the crime, poverty, homelessness and above all their own economies.

  • @richards2919
    @richards2919 3 місяці тому +23

    My underwear, and China's influence, is wearing thin.

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    @MarkLiam-r5s 3 місяці тому +167

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  • @RazorKane22
    @RazorKane22 3 місяці тому +35

    LOL. Hurt British feelings. Africa needs the development. They definitely won't get it from the overrated United Kingdom

    • @maxchi1176
      @maxchi1176 3 місяці тому +5

      British n western colonial African some many century why Africa remain poverty and starving

    • @antwango
      @antwango 3 місяці тому

      the not so united kingdom and te not so united states of propaganda

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому +1

      British built a lot of ports and roads too. How'd that end up for you?

    • @BrotherhoodGaming-uh3cp
      @BrotherhoodGaming-uh3cp 3 місяці тому

      @@adtastic1533 Brittish didn't build anything, The slaves built it for them...

    • @辛Mario
      @辛Mario 3 місяці тому

      The UK is insignificant in the international landscape, who cares about Britain. It's just a door-guarding dog for America

  • @TheKkpop1
    @TheKkpop1 3 місяці тому +32

    50 billion dollars is small amount to G7. They aren't willing to lift African out of poverty.
    However, Chinese is willing to share its success stories with global South.

    • @maxchi1176
      @maxchi1176 3 місяці тому +6

      g7 want African to buy more and more weapon from their country

    • @dexterspeights3484
      @dexterspeights3484 3 місяці тому

      Debt combined with poverty are tools used by 1st world countries in order to get natural resources, cheap labor, and manufacturing out of 2nd and 3rd world countries!

    • @GenXerReacts
      @GenXerReacts 3 місяці тому +1

      My country sends billions of dollars every year to Africa and has done so since the 1960's. We have also forgiven hundreds of billions of dollars of loans made to African countries during that time period. China doesn't want to give money to Africa they want to make short term loans at unreasonably high interest rates, hire only Chinese and non-African workers to work on investment projects, and then take over outright control over huge mines, airports, seaports and the like should these countries miss even one payment while saddling Africa with huge amounts of debt that they know Africa can't payback. This is nothing more than a huge money grab by Beijing that Russia is also trying to copy. Just the USAID program alone sent over $6billion in 2022 to Africa just by itself, and that doesn't even calculate how much church and other charity NGO's give to Africa yearly.

    • @maxchi1176
      @maxchi1176 3 місяці тому

      @@TheKkpop1 yeah through IMF n World bank.. African country need to pay back... You though western so generous lend money to African??? Most of African debt is came from both agency control by western

    • @AlexM-rk9pm
      @AlexM-rk9pm 3 місяці тому +1

      @@GenXerReactsyou’re accusing china of what you’ve been doing for decades

  • @xiaosenxie2774
    @xiaosenxie2774 3 місяці тому +52

    "America's influence in the middle east is starting to wear thin."

    • @sumdude4281
      @sumdude4281 3 місяці тому +16

      Let's hope. Certainly tired of having anything to do with the region.

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 3 місяці тому

      Nobody gives a damn about the Middle East anymore. It used to be important because of oil, but it has lost that key function tbh and is becoming rapidly less important.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 3 місяці тому +1

      ❤exactly

    • @ironzombi
      @ironzombi 3 місяці тому +1

      Ah yes let's ignore this current issue because 'merica bad'

    • @xiaosenxie2774
      @xiaosenxie2774 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ironzombiThat's literally not what I said. I'm just pointing out these kinds of headlines are dumb because it's not across the board. China's influence is waning in certain countries in Africa but expanding in others. & For the US, we will never abandon Israel or stop buying oil from the Saudis.

  • @Western_Decline
    @Western_Decline 3 місяці тому +9

    His book seems ideologically motivated and not a good faith effort in trying to understand China.

    • @GenXerReacts
      @GenXerReacts 3 місяці тому

      And your logo is highly racist: "White people must be stopped".

  • @MrAbbas16
    @MrAbbas16 3 місяці тому +17

    The hypocrisy of these people

  • @MrOkadaman28
    @MrOkadaman28 3 місяці тому +46

    I live in Africa. This guy has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

    • @brianquigley1940
      @brianquigley1940 3 місяці тому

      So... African countries are not going bankrupt trying to repay CCP debt traps?

    • @tonypeterson5316
      @tonypeterson5316 3 місяці тому

      He's clearly working for the collapsing western empire, they r just jealous of China's successful partnership with Africa.

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому

      I know plenty of Africans. They hate this and you're a Chinese bot

  • @peterchristie1096
    @peterchristie1096 3 місяці тому +14

    Times Radio's paranoia about Russia and China is wearing VERY THIN!

  • @GameChanger-cr4hx
    @GameChanger-cr4hx 3 місяці тому +21

    The clowns on this channel still thinks Africa is a third world colonial outpost. The world has moved on.

  • @SarjoKhan-u8s
    @SarjoKhan-u8s 3 місяці тому +42

    China 🇨🇳 is the best partner for Africa✊🏿🙏🏿💯🖤🖤🖤💚💛♥️

    • @justinthislife
      @justinthislife 3 місяці тому +10

      Says a person who doesn't understand debt-trap economics.

    • @SarjoKhan-u8s
      @SarjoKhan-u8s 3 місяці тому +5

      @@justinthislife lies🔥🔥🔥💯

    • @haroldong4616
      @haroldong4616 3 місяці тому +5

      You're talking nonsense. There's now better healthcare, better educational institutions, transportation, power plants, green enery projects, etc. Life expectantancy has increased tremendously.
      Africa is now seeing greater economic growth than it ever had.
      @@justinthislife

    • @riccij7754
      @riccij7754 3 місяці тому

      @@justinthislife That's a massive assumption on your part. Mind your business.

    • @spartanconscience2693
      @spartanconscience2693 3 місяці тому

      @@justinthislife Do you? Heard of the third world debt? Being going on for decades and happily sponsored by the West. Its pure exploitation.

  • @johnmeissner8715
    @johnmeissner8715 3 місяці тому +27

    Everything said about how much China has invested and extracted from Africa can be said about every other major player in the world economy. I see a lot of paranoia coming out of this video.

    • @Lyle-In-NO
      @Lyle-In-NO 3 місяці тому +6

      Idk if I'd call it paranoia. I'd say it's a more "save some Africa for us" mentality.

    • @petergreen5337
      @petergreen5337 3 місяці тому +2

      ❤Precisely

    • @superkd7030
      @superkd7030 3 місяці тому

      No, it's 'only I can't steal from Africa' mentality.

  • @pccitizen1647
    @pccitizen1647 3 місяці тому +18

    This joker said that western creditors are kind and reasonable. What a joker 😂😂😂

    • @habibi1195
      @habibi1195 3 місяці тому

      Lol, I almost feel when I heard that 😂

  • @georgedeng8646
    @georgedeng8646 3 місяці тому +11

    You can feel the seething bitterness in that title.

  • @ericlaw5685
    @ericlaw5685 3 місяці тому +6

    Oh the audacity...

  • @rowexiao
    @rowexiao 3 місяці тому +27

    well done China 🎉, what west can give to Africa?

    • @brianquigley1940
      @brianquigley1940 3 місяці тому

      NOT debt traps that destroy economies...

    • @gibson2675
      @gibson2675 3 місяці тому

      We want China to stop insisting on visas from Africans but not from western countries

    • @Patrick-y4d1z
      @Patrick-y4d1z 3 місяці тому

      Why would the West want to give anything to Africa?

    • @kaboonali5466
      @kaboonali5466 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gibson2675who is we? What African is called Gibson

    • @DD-ld1xq
      @DD-ld1xq 3 місяці тому

      We gave them civilisation. Just like we gave you technology. You are nothing without us, chang.

  • @georgeli3935
    @georgeli3935 3 місяці тому +11

    What are you suggesting as the alternative? If you're talking about debt trap, it really all started with the WB and IMF. Have they helped with Africa's economic development? Or have they really just been an instrument to extend western neo-colonialism in Africa? China is actually building Africa, unlike the west. Sure there are issues to be resolved, but it far superior to the western alternative. Beside that, Africa's debt to China is far dwarfed by Africa's debt to the west. I don't understand how one can make this sort of statement on Chinese debt trap while making a straight face.

    • @DarkRockslizer
      @DarkRockslizer 3 місяці тому +1

      If we're talking about WB and IMF, they alleviated 100 billion USD of debts - including those to China - in the last 2 decades through HIPC initiative, almost all of that went to Africa. Is that not help?
      The result of that is, IMF and WB partially paid for those Chinese projects with Chinese slogans on them because many African governments weren't capable of paying for them. China gets all the profit and praise while the global aid organizations get spat at.

    • @georgeli3935
      @georgeli3935 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DarkRockslizer
      Stiglitz criticised the Washington Consensus for placing excessive amount of emphasis on GDP growth, as opposed to the real standard of living. It was clear that the shock policies adopted by the WB and IMF under the Washington Consensus had not helped countries in many cases. Structural Adjustments in the 1980s sent many economies backwards, particularly in Sub-Saharan Africa.
      According to Unicef, 10-25% drop in average incomes in Africa and Latin America in the 1980s, a decade that had significant WB lending along with structural adjustments. There was also a 25% fall in per capita spent on health, and a 50% reduction in education in the poorest countries in the world.
      Unicef attributes these to poorly implemented structural adjustments. They estimate that such adverse effects on developing nations results in the yearly death of half a million children. The WB themselves note the lack of evidence on the success of structural adjustments in poor countries.
      I'm quoting what UNICEF and Joseph Stiglitz had said. Unless you claim to have better sources of information and data than them.

    • @DarkRockslizer
      @DarkRockslizer 3 місяці тому

      @@georgeli3935 We don't live in the 80s anymore. According to Statista, WEF and... any other statistics source, really, there has been a massive upward trend in global education level in the 2000s and 2010s. Quoting "How place of birth shapes chances of going to university: evidence from 7 African countries", the education systems were reformed again in the 90s in the majority of Africa, this time more successfully, although inequality of access is still present or growing with urban centers having way easier access to it. However, more people also live in urbanized areas now.
      You should also look up the HIPC and related Multilateral Debt Relief Initiative programs and what they did.

    • @georgeli3935
      @georgeli3935 3 місяці тому +2

      @@DarkRockslizer My point was regarding the claim that China is creating a debt trap. My evidence was that the WB and IMF were the OG on the said debt trap. I don't see how this is irrelevant, unless you misunderstood the intention of my comment. Furthermore Africa is still experiencing the detrimental effects of WB and IMF policies.

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому

      You wanna take your chances with China or Russia, be my guest. But don't come crying to us when it all ends in tears. I fact, why don't you go emigrate there instead of sneaking into Europe

  • @eattheright
    @eattheright 3 місяці тому +4

    I would encourage people to research what this contributor is saying as the majority of his comments are simply wrong. Take Zambia, this East African country owes the majority of its debts to "Western" institutions. China accounts for under 30% at 4bn US Dollars. Look up America's AFRICOM, which has 30 military bases and facilities in Africa, including 2 in Kenya. It's all there for anyone to research.

    • @GenXerReacts
      @GenXerReacts 3 місяці тому

      My country sends billions of dollars every year to Africa and has done so since the 1960's. We have also forgiven hundreds of billions of dollars of loans made to African countries during that time period. China doesn't want to give money to Africa they want to make short term loans at unreasonably high interest rates, hire only Chinese and non-African workers to work on investment projects, and then take over outright control over huge mines, airports, seaports and the like should these countries miss even one payment while saddling Africa with huge amounts of debt that they know Africa can't payback. This is nothing more than a huge money grab by Beijing that Russia is also trying to copy. Just the USAID program alone sent over $6billion in 2022 to Africa just by itself, and that doesn't even calculate how much church and other charity NGO's give to Africa yearly.

    • @eattheright
      @eattheright 3 місяці тому

      @GenXerReacts Why talk about a subject that you clearly know nothing about? The "Western" claim that Zambia in Africa was the most indebted to Chinese. You can Google Zambia's external debt and where the debt interest is going. The time that I checked, "Western" institutions like the IMF/World Bank and private lending institutions accounted for between 66% and 75%, and the remainder was China. Now Africa and China might be emotionally triggering issues for you. But these are the facts. Your feelings do not trump these facts. BTW, which country is "your country?"

  • @steveguynup5441
    @steveguynup5441 3 місяці тому +5

    I'd like to see how Chinese media influence campaigns are being run in African countries....

  • @jf7558
    @jf7558 3 місяці тому +12

    My opinion is to allow African nations to determine the optimal investments in their economies and, by extension, their security.
    After centuries of colonial subjugation, the Africans may be more interested in other options.

    • @johnbeechy
      @johnbeechy 3 місяці тому

      yeah, but that cash can save a lot of bodies from starvation, or from worse than imagined events. // perhaps u can send your Op to Xi and have his men re coin flip and bad debt some of the loans that seem to enslave the very people u desire to be free. the message is the medium, so medium Out your concerns to the local Chinese operative u can site my name if u want to. //

    • @Lavithz
      @Lavithz 3 місяці тому

      so you think corrupt politicians does whats best for the African population? what about the chinese fine prints. African countries cant pay back what they owe already and is now forced to become slaves to china. giving up harbors, military bases, transport routes and so on

    • @CollectiveDefence
      @CollectiveDefence 3 місяці тому +2

      From one colonial master to another, i assume?

    • @oluwatobiadegoke13
      @oluwatobiadegoke13 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@CollectiveDefence That’s not what it is. It's business. Here you are, so full of pain. Africa will get the help it needs from China and Russia. In fact, the West will unwilling help too, but we know that we have to be weary of the West.

    • @CollectiveDefence
      @CollectiveDefence 3 місяці тому

      @@oluwatobiadegoke13
      China and Russia combined provide 1% of the total humanitarian aid to Africa as a continent. They are more interested in helping autoritarian regimes remain in power, than making the lives of common folks better. And also extracting cheap minerals. So very much neo-colonial masters. There are ofcourse other malign actors beyond those countries. But it’s in the best case deluded and ignorant to think either Russia or China wants to genuinly help a common person.

  • @gam1471
    @gam1471 3 місяці тому +24

    Correction: "is starting to WEAR thin".

    • @aidi58
      @aidi58 3 місяці тому +8

      Good on you. I was just about to write the same thing. Proof reading is so important.

    • @spenserkao2709
      @spenserkao2709 3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks, I was about to clarify.

    • @zer0thzero428
      @zer0thzero428 3 місяці тому

      New model Grauniad.

    • @AlieuBadjan-tz7nq
      @AlieuBadjan-tz7nq 3 місяці тому +2

      It's the West and African relationship that has worn tin or broken.

  • @alagiedarboe-f7h
    @alagiedarboe-f7h 3 місяці тому +6

    We don’t care if he is former China correspondent Africa has decided no matter what you said we are new generation cannot change our mind 😂😂😂😂

  • @radarr5345
    @radarr5345 3 місяці тому +15

    Even in 2024 people talk abt Africa like it's just another commodity 😢

    • @brianquigley1940
      @brianquigley1940 3 місяці тому

      You're quoting Xi Jinping...

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 3 місяці тому +1

      Xi said: Together with Africans, total of 2.8 billion people, no one should left behind from economic and industrial development into new future.

    • @oluwatobiadegoke13
      @oluwatobiadegoke13 3 місяці тому +1

      Why are you crying about it? Take action! The West has certainly lost its grip on Africa. Although it may be slow, Africa will get to the promised land.

    • @brianquigley1940
      @brianquigley1940 3 місяці тому

      @@oluwatobiadegoke13 I'm listening to you playing guitar as I sit at my desk working. 🙂

    • @辛Mario
      @辛Mario 3 місяці тому

      @@brianquigley1940 Working as a dish cleaner?

  • @WillsJazzLoft
    @WillsJazzLoft 3 місяці тому +11

    There are 54 sovereign states on the continent. The most difficult task that they've yet to master is that related to pan African dialogue and cooperation. Pan Africanism is a crucial key to moving the continent up in the value chain

    • @ryanwalters6184
      @ryanwalters6184 3 місяці тому +1

      That's a pipe dream. There's more wars in Africa than any other continent right now.

    • @Komeshokakunanwene
      @Komeshokakunanwene 3 місяці тому +2

      ​​@@ryanwalters6184 it's not about whether some would like it to be a "pipe dream" only, it's about, that is what Africa should walk towards and prioritize because the AFCFTA, which is already launched, will require for Africans to look beyond the bolders that were imposed on them. What he is saying is Africa should look inwards above anything and everything else.

    • @conradknight1181
      @conradknight1181 3 місяці тому

      ​@ryanwalters6184 yeah, and most of it sponsored by the West so they can sabotage and steal African resources..

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund 3 місяці тому

      How about rule of law and less corruption? A country can do that alone without needing to wait for everybody else on that unruly continent. It should pay off very, very nicely.

    • @riccij7754
      @riccij7754 3 місяці тому

      @@ryanwalters6184 Its definitely NOT a pipe dream. Many heads of state are actually Pan-Africanists. The new confederation in the Sahel is actually a pan African organisation. Keep up.

  • @protato911
    @protato911 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video guys, impeccable comedic timing.

  • @jemler3speak
    @jemler3speak 3 місяці тому

    A guy talking about Sino-Africa relationship at a small loft in London, sounds like the perfect expert on China.

  • @BeelP.
    @BeelP. 3 місяці тому +6

    China's influence wearing thin? And who's gaining? Where's Europe's promised billions? Or America's?

  • @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO
    @VIVABELLAVIVAHERMANO 3 місяці тому

    I am in Kenya (visiting) the SGR train was a good investment for Kenya and the whole region. I have bene on the train and travel to Mombasa. Kenya is one of the most developed Countries in Africa is a growing potential for more.

  • @adtastic1533
    @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому +1

    The Russian and Chinese bots on this thread are insane

    • @aranduser
      @aranduser 3 місяці тому

      Lol, anyone not supporting your narratives are bots.

  • @bouwah85
    @bouwah85 3 місяці тому +6

    I sense jealously that African is choosing China 😂

  • @bthyme
    @bthyme 3 місяці тому +18

    Wear, not "ware" - artificial stupidity?

    • @JuliePayne
      @JuliePayne 3 місяці тому +2

      Indeed!

    • @artmcteagle
      @artmcteagle 3 місяці тому +4

      I'd say it's editorial laziness, but alas, many young people nowadays can't spell.

    • @buddy1155
      @buddy1155 3 місяці тому +2

      It is not my first language and I thought I learned something new.

    • @Lyle-In-NO
      @Lyle-In-NO 3 місяці тому

      ​@@buddy1155lol!

  • @dustinholt7308
    @dustinholt7308 3 місяці тому

    Essentially, China is giving the whole continent of Africa, loanmax title loan

  • @kaboonali5466
    @kaboonali5466 3 місяці тому +27

    Yes let’s listen to couple of Anglo judeans discuss Africa relationship with China 😂😂😂

    • @AYTM1200
      @AYTM1200 3 місяці тому +1

      Silly identity politics.

    • @rehac001
      @rehac001 3 місяці тому

      Who you are or where you are from does not matter in the face of facts.

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      This is for internal consumption so that their population can still say we are still running the world and everyone else is still our subjects. It makes them sleep better at night.

  • @ah5878
    @ah5878 3 місяці тому

    Africa debt consists 15% from China and the rest are primarily IMF, World Bank and France. The average interest rate of Chinese loan is 2.4% and IMF/World Bank loan is 20+%, public info from IMF and World Bank. The Chinese base in Africa is a part of UN peace force next to US UK France etc.

  • @Lyle-In-NO
    @Lyle-In-NO 3 місяці тому +2

    Re his book, what does he mean by addiction to the Chinese economy? I'm guessing due to the potentially massive market availability in China?

  • @DarkVader-jj4dt
    @DarkVader-jj4dt 3 місяці тому +1

    These people are delusional.

  • @boudivv
    @boudivv 3 місяці тому +6

    Africa is getting self conscious. Aid to Africa is not anymore of these times. The rest of the world needs to start taking Africa seriously. (Not the Parisian way)

    • @darkhorseman8263
      @darkhorseman8263 3 місяці тому +2

      If it wasn't for Western and Eastern flight capital, Africa would have been a superpower.

    • @dpelpal
      @dpelpal 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@darkhorseman8263 Superpower stench maybe😂

    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@darkhorseman8263 Super Famine indeed.

    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dpelpal Steelmor Eatmor Brakemor Inc.
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    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@darkhorseman8263 😂

  • @Western_Decline
    @Western_Decline 3 місяці тому +1

    What happened to BUILD BACK BETTER WORLD? and PGII? Lots of pledge, no follow thru.

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      The US can't even build decent affordable infrastructure in their own country, how are they going to build it for Africa.

  • @AlexBunda-sn5yn
    @AlexBunda-sn5yn 3 місяці тому +6

    How do Chinese economy problems compare to the western economy problems?

    • @dpelpal
      @dpelpal 3 місяці тому +1

      There are very few "problem" in countries like the USA

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 3 місяці тому

      @@dpelpal HAHA - The US is in economic and social collapse, its over, its the end of neoliberalism and the end of capitalism. The US has reached interconnected cascading systems failure - every time you try and fix a problem it makes another one much worse.
      Its over

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 3 місяці тому +1

      China's problems are those of a growing transitional economy, post agrarian cheap labour boom to steady state aging economy - this is normal.
      The Western countries like the US and the UK are suffering the end of capitalism - this is not normal.
      Western countries like France, Italy, and Sweeden will see the collapse in the UK and the US and very likely change their economies to avoid the worst of it - the future is a mixed economy like China, with massive state control to stop capitalism destroying itself as it has in the UK and the US.
      Germany might also collapse

    • @AlexBunda-sn5yn
      @AlexBunda-sn5yn 3 місяці тому

      @@dpelpal oh! sarcasm! 😊

    • @dpelpal
      @dpelpal 3 місяці тому +6

      @@AlexBunda-sn5yn Just look at the long-term graph of the United States economic growth.
      Only a fool bets against USA😆

  • @spenserkao2709
    @spenserkao2709 3 місяці тому +17

    When Chinese-owned economy is so troublesome, really curious how it is going to handle a secondary economy baggage?

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 3 місяці тому +2

      China earns 800 billons from International trade in 2023, the higest in the world.
      And with 3 trillion USD based Reserves and Assets, surely China knows how to manage their funds. Chinese are very good at maths and strategy calculation, even out smart the coleective West.
      Don‘t you worry, China is not worry, but Western World seems very worried.😂😂😂

    • @superkd7030
      @superkd7030 3 місяці тому

      The Chinese economy is only troublesome to you guys. 🤣🤣🤣 They are doing fine, not great obviously with so many economies in the West crashing and burning is pretty hard for any economy to do so. But sure, keep 'worrying' about China. 🙄

  • @stephanledford9792
    @stephanledford9792 3 місяці тому +7

    One difference between the Chinese and the IMF and other western lenders it the projects that are eligible for loans. The IMF will do a detailed financial study and not make the loan unless the project(s) being financed make financial sense, while China will finance almost anything. With the more "lenient" Chinese criteria for loans, the country can end up with a huge airport or port that cannot pay for the loan used to finance it. I also read that the interest rate charged by China is considerably higher than what the IMF charges.

    • @Isaac_D_Huang
      @Isaac_D_Huang 3 місяці тому +4

      12% debt from China, 70% form from western, overall interest rates is about half of western. the data you get is compare China's highest to Western lowest

    • @pbworld7858
      @pbworld7858 3 місяці тому +1

      And China has also forgiven a LOT of debt. I'd like to see the greedy west do that for Africa. Or perhaps build one single road in Africa?

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      Not true the Chinese interest is way smaller that the IMF, why do you think they are going with China? Common sense defeat your argument, why do you think people like there two are worried about what is going on?

  • @BrandyHeng007
    @BrandyHeng007 3 місяці тому +5

    FOCAC Motto...
    No nation will be left behind on the road to Modernisation of Africa
    China promised US 51bil investment and 1 mil jobs for Africa, causing green eyes in US and India.

  • @habibhussein1983
    @habibhussein1983 3 місяці тому +9

    The Host Is Western Agent😂😂

  • @adtastic1533
    @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому

    European colonisers built a lot ports and roads too. Yet these Africans are begging for Chinese round 2

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      Historically that is not true. Lies in 2024 are easily checked. Africa has prospered more with China in the last 20 years that with colonizers for the last 300 years, FACT.

  • @hokroeger
    @hokroeger 3 місяці тому +19

    ""ChinaBad"propaganda is starting to ware thin"

    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому +2

      Difficult sentence, posted?
      Showing your wares.
      😂

    • @hokroeger
      @hokroeger 3 місяці тому +2

      @@joecruiser Have a loot at the title of the video. Wait, they already corrected it!

    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому +1

      @@hokroeger Gottit.
      Anyway, SA is now the latest Southern Province of the Chine mainland.

    • @hokroeger
      @hokroeger 3 місяці тому +2

      @@joecruiser Anyway, Argentina is now the latest Southern Province of the US mainland

    • @ryanwalters6184
      @ryanwalters6184 3 місяці тому

      China gives new ammo all the time

  • @ianhunt4147
    @ianhunt4147 3 місяці тому +6

    living in south africa i deal with chinese people - NO ONE at the micro economic level sees these investments - its cover to pay off officials to let the influx of cheap goods keep on rolling in - dont be fooled ,the local population dont like the top level chinese people ripping their resources out however african people dislike the west - the soviet union and communism did a great job pulling the wool over the locals eyes - locals in south africa even dislike the zimbabwean people working here and theres a huge shift in local attention in fixing local problems - people are tired of not receiving any benefits from the money - hence the general elections were such a shake up - i feel africans will start to question the west and easts involvement in local affairs more and more because they really want to be their own people and cow tow to anyone - howver corrupt officials see the gravy train -it will be interesting

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 3 місяці тому +1

      All countries do better when they don't allow other countries to mess with their economy and politics. The nations of Africa forming a united political identity like the EU would be a deliberate association of equals for the purpose of mutual benefit. Africa letting China or Russia or the West or anyone else walk in and take their resources is always going to be harmful for Africa. Even if it brings in a lot of foreign currency, it's just going to cause Dutch Disease and destroy the economy anyway.
      Better to keep those resources in the ground until you have the infrastructure to process them yourself.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 3 місяці тому +2

      I am from Kenya and i can tell you that Chinese lending and infrastructure is seen in the micro level. When South African people were struggling against Apartheid it was the Soviets and the Chinese who helped and not the West who branded Mandela a dangerous terrorist and communist.
      South Africa has a unique problem of Xenophobia that is not prevalent in the rest of Africa but the corruption in SA has nothing to do with outsiders whether from the East or West.

    • @adtastic1533
      @adtastic1533 3 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelotieno6524What a load of BS. Western countries boycott apartheid regime for decades. Some of us remember back then quite well.

  • @alexlee9276
    @alexlee9276 3 місяці тому

    China investment is about 12% of the total amount that the West and EU have invested.

  • @hyuxion
    @hyuxion 3 місяці тому

    What exactly can UK provide to Africa? More British pounds?

  • @gerriedoll154
    @gerriedoll154 3 місяці тому

    How safe is G 5 and G7 . ??? Why are there so much cancer theses days ??
    Only questions???

  • @Leotique
    @Leotique 3 місяці тому +3

    Westeners sitting in their homes, talking about a place and life they've never experienced.

  • @copaloadofthis
    @copaloadofthis 3 місяці тому +24

    China is nothing without the West

    • @hkfoo3333
      @hkfoo3333 3 місяці тому

      Hahahaha what a clown.
      China has 6 times more smart people in STEM than US and EU combined.
      Go to china , you see the future. Go to your countries are fast becoming third world

    • @evaluateanalysis7974
      @evaluateanalysis7974 3 місяці тому +5

      It's mutual, we want the goods, they want the work. If they stopped trying to claim an island they failed to invade decades ago, we would both benefit from a business relationship.

    • @TacticalMayo
      @TacticalMayo 3 місяці тому

      Not true at all.​@@evaluateanalysis7974

    • @ryanwalters6184
      @ryanwalters6184 3 місяці тому

      ​@@evaluateanalysis7974 speak for yourself. I do not want anything from china and do not buy anything in America that's made in China

    • @tony4887
      @tony4887 3 місяці тому +3

      To be Honest it not just China but the whole worldwide .

  • @JaneSoole
    @JaneSoole 3 місяці тому +1

    Is South America - its third?

  • @RidleyHolmes-sr2tw
    @RidleyHolmes-sr2tw 3 місяці тому

    Hold on. Nobody blamed Trump. What's going on Times Radio?

  • @level1selamat155
    @level1selamat155 3 місяці тому

    How? Should be stronger

  • @Buckzoo2030
    @Buckzoo2030 3 місяці тому

    How can a train reporter completely be blinded to what China has achieved for itself and Africa? China is not perfect and its economics has faults, plus it still has a long way to go to boost developed. Any trustworthy reporter should look at China shortcomings and achievement. It sounds like everything is wrong with China. If so, U.S. should be carefree about China. But it’s not, it’s worry about China’s increasing role in Africa. So what has China done right about Africa? What does need the new agreement will mean for Africa in the next decade, pros and cons ? He said nothing that short besides labeling. It’s such a disappointment and wasted my 10 minutes.

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      Why are you surprised. Anglo Saxons do not want you to prosper. They think that they are the only ones that is suppose to enjoy the things that God has provided for everyone.

  • @peterhanssens7260
    @peterhanssens7260 3 місяці тому +9

    50 billion over 3 years, well that spreads pretty thin. The cookie jar must be almost empty. Big talk from China as usual.

    • @kaboonali5466
      @kaboonali5466 3 місяці тому +9

      Why are you concerned with what China and Africa are doing, why can’t the west offer Africa alternative source of financing? Sounds like the west has nothing to offer as we see in the Ukraine war

    • @wallnuts22
      @wallnuts22 3 місяці тому +2

      @@kaboonali5466 we have seen what China has promised in the South Pacific, east Asia and so forth. Track record and history shows it’s not much. The funny thing is it’s going broke at home for an imperial ambition so if if you want to compare it to Ukraine I’d say China is more like Russia than you appreciate. As far as the west is concerned it’s simple, you don’t put money somewhere that is a bad investment.

    • @conradknight1181
      @conradknight1181 3 місяці тому

      ​@wallnuts22 That's just Western wishful thinking what a joke China's going broke....

    • @soonpohtay4794
      @soonpohtay4794 3 місяці тому +1

      East Asia get nothing from China...😅🤣😂

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 3 місяці тому

      @@wallnuts22 Since when did lending money to Africa signify imperial ambitions. What are you talking about?

  • @tupouakau8983
    @tupouakau8983 3 місяці тому

    God knows her Children .

  • @Western_Decline
    @Western_Decline 3 місяці тому

    this Whit-e man is telling his Whit-e audience what it wants to hear rather than the reality they need to hear.

  • @ASmithee67
    @ASmithee67 3 місяці тому +1

    At around 6:00 Ian makes the statement "(West) gotta step-up in Africa". This is the traditional gotta compete with China (or Russia) for influence in region X or country y mentality.
    Let me first ask the basic question of, how does "stepping up" a.k.a. giving foreign aid, benefits the giving country?

  • @Vzzdak
    @Vzzdak 3 місяці тому +3

    The thing people need to understand about BNR initiatives is that they were sold as expensive projects that would pay for themselves, but the projects would not be finished before repayment was due.

    • @ryanwalters6184
      @ryanwalters6184 3 місяці тому +1

      And then they went over budget and the revenue was overstated. Because nobody actually saw if the project would be feasible before they started the project.

    • @Vzzdak
      @Vzzdak 3 місяці тому

      @@ryanwalters6184 Fun facts based upon statistics.
      Virtually all large infrastructure (and IT) projects go over budget, and over schedule, often to absurd degrees.
      The reason is that there is political pressure to get the given project underway, at the expense of spending the time to thoroughly plan out the specifics (i.e., what materials do we need, when do we need them, what are the technical considerations, etc.).
      To learn more about this, read the book, "How Big Things Get Done," by Bent Flyvbjerg and Dan Gardner.
      Think about that. Just basic research shows that large projects will go over budget, and over schedule.
      This implies that *all* BRI project loans are predatory, with foreknowledge that:
      1) the target country will not insist upon planning the projects thoroughly;
      2) the project will not be completed according to schedule;
      3) the project will need additional funding to complete;
      4) the finished project was "sold" on the premise that it would generate revenue that would pay for the project; and
      5) payment of loans would be demanded before project completion.
      Now, compare with George C. Parker, who (died in prison for) swindling people into purchasing real estate that he did not own.
      The BRI projects, all of them, are more sophisticated con games, wherein a pretence of project construction is made under terms that will *never* achieve the original promise.

    • @Vzzdak
      @Vzzdak 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ryanwalters6184 Fun facts based upon statistics.
      Virtually all large infrastructure (and IT) projects go over budget, and over schedule, often to absurd degrees.
      The reason is that there is political pressure to get the given project underway, at the expense of spending the time to thoroughly plan out the specifics (i.e., what materials do we need, when do we need them, what are the technical considerations, etc.).
      To learn more about this, read the book, "How Big Things Get Done," by Bent Flyvbjerg and Dan Gardner.
      Think about that. Just basic research shows that large projects will go over budget, and over schedule.
      This implies that *all* BRI project loans are predatory, with foreknowledge that:
      1) the target country will not insist upon planning the projects thoroughly;
      2) the project will not be completed according to schedule;
      3) the project will need additional funding to complete;
      4) the finished project was "sold" on the premise that it would generate revenue that would pay for the project; and
      5) payment of loans would be demanded before project completion.
      Now, compare with George C. Parker, who (died in prison for) swindling people into purchasing real estate that he did not own.
      The BRI projects, all of them, are more sophisticated con games, wherein a pretence of project construction is made under terms that will *never* achieve the original promise.

    • @Vzzdak
      @Vzzdak 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ryanwalters6184 Fun facts based upon statistics.
      Virtually all large infrastructure (and IT) projects go over budget, and over schedule, often to absurd degrees.
      The reason is that there is political pressure to get the given project underway, at the expense of spending the time to thoroughly plan out the specifics (i.e., what materials do we need, when do we need them, what are the technical considerations, etc.).
      To learn more about this, read the book, "How Big Things Get Done," by Bent Flyvbjerg and Dan Gardner.
      Think about that. Just basic research shows that large projects will go over budget, and over schedule.
      This implies that *all* BRI project loans are predatory, with foreknowledge that:
      1) the target country will not insist upon planning the projects thoroughly;
      2) the project will not be completed according to schedule;
      3) the project will need additional funding to complete;
      4) the finished project was "sold" on the premise that it would generate revenue that would pay for the project; and
      5) payment of loans would be demanded before project completion.
      Now, compare with George C. Parker, who (died in prison for) swindling people into purchasing real estate that he did not own.
      The BRI projects, all of them, are more sophisticated con games, wherein a pretence of project construction is made under terms that will *never* achieve the original promise.

    • @mariaparabello6344
      @mariaparabello6344 3 місяці тому +1

      Also the quality was not as promised, leaving the receiving countries indepted to China having wasted precious resources on subpar infrastructure and unfinished mega projects

  • @mariaparabello6344
    @mariaparabello6344 3 місяці тому

    The female host seems so distracted 😮 she's talking over him, interrupting and moving so weirdly. As if she's doing several other things at the same time. It seems as if she isn't taking the topic seriously

    • @168Jon
      @168Jon 3 місяці тому

      You're right, I think she's writing a shopping list for tonight's dinner.🤣

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      She known what he is saying is not true and only want to sell his book to the gullible people in his country who want's to believe that the still own the world.

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 3 місяці тому +1

    Says the jealous West😂

  • @habibhussein1983
    @habibhussein1983 3 місяці тому +9

    The Collective West Are In Africa For Over 500 Years Without A Single Hospital!!!

    • @Lavithz
      @Lavithz 3 місяці тому +2

      what are you smoking. guess you never heard of doctors without borders either.

    • @habibhussein1983
      @habibhussein1983 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Lavithz Am Smoking The History Of Ur Ancestors!! And That's Why You Are Afraid Of The Truth

    • @Leotique
      @Leotique 3 місяці тому

      @@Lavithzyou mean the borders the European made up while enslaving, killing and stealing during their conquer ? Yeah, thanks for the doctors

  • @jonathanmun4180
    @jonathanmun4180 3 місяці тому

    Sorry west, you guys actually need to work for what you produce. It may be a rough transition getting your children to work hard and smart since generations have passed living this soft life.

  • @amandachang634
    @amandachang634 3 місяці тому +1

    4:48 sounds like he's talking about the IMF if you listen to people like Yanis Varoufakis and a country that is supposed to benefit from EU ties, never mind countries that have been exploited for decades with nothing to show for it

  • @davidg837
    @davidg837 3 місяці тому +1

    China won't let Africans migrate into China. And whenever China does a development deal they extract the raw minerals and but the people who do the extraction are Chinese. A very interesting colonialism.

  • @MichaelKwofie-g6l
    @MichaelKwofie-g6l 3 місяці тому +8

    The west needs to stop crying about china's success and reengage Africa 😅 this racist overtones ain't gonna cut anymore

    • @Lavithz
      @Lavithz 3 місяці тому

      bot

    • @jeffmason2691
      @jeffmason2691 3 місяці тому

      @@Lavithz Typical response when you have NO response.

    • @Lavithz
      @Lavithz 3 місяці тому

      @@jeffmason2691 its a bot. maybe you can talk about all the success with some real numbers, if your so knowledgeable. or do you have nothing important to contribute to the bot squad.

  • @compassroses
    @compassroses 3 місяці тому +1

    I wouldn't regard Xina's built-on-stolen-sand economy as "something to be proud of".

    • @giliguluedinburgh
      @giliguluedinburgh 3 місяці тому

      I think u have mistaken China for the USA where they have built on stolen land from the Natives and used African and Chinese slaves to build American up.

  • @peterbeninger7068
    @peterbeninger7068 3 місяці тому +12

    Times Radio cannot write 10 words without a spelling or grammar error. Pathetic.

    • @budawang77
      @budawang77 3 місяці тому

      Honest mistake

    • @JuliePayne
      @JuliePayne 3 місяці тому +2

      @@budawang77not for an editorial title!

    • @forthrightgambitia1032
      @forthrightgambitia1032 3 місяці тому +1

      Once there was The Gruniad. Now there is The Tmise.

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 3 місяці тому

      This was my comment: *YOU ARE EITHER DELUSIONAL OR YOU ARE GASLIGHTING THE PUBLIC...!!!* only a fantasist or someone with ZERO knowledge of China / Africa could make that comment
      China is stopped buying $USD Guilts and started paying off African $USD debt - allowing the countries to pay back in either local currency OR get a 100% credit if they buy Chinese Solare and EV. This has freed many countries up from US Debt obligations and ensured Chinese dominance over Africa. They did this in response to the 100% Tariffs the US put on EV's.
      ---!---
      There is nothing credible about this in any way - not even the spelling or grammar error

    • @peterbeninger7068
      @peterbeninger7068 3 місяці тому +2

      @@budawang77 Every article, every day. You are obviously too young to remember when it NEVER happened. I suspect they are simply and lazily using voice-to-text, and not even bothering to check.

  • @johnmeissner8715
    @johnmeissner8715 3 місяці тому +2

    If there is any way to diminish the story ...put up a headline that misspells a key word.

  • @joecruiser
    @joecruiser 3 місяці тому +5

    SA and their sofa Ramaphosa are working hard to become just another Sino province.

    • @silafaupaulmeredith7251
      @silafaupaulmeredith7251 3 місяці тому +4

      Better than a USA poodle Puppy whom will leave you f to the limit

    • @joecruiser
      @joecruiser 3 місяці тому

      @@silafaupaulmeredith7251 OK.
      Just Keep on blaming the Rich Successful Thriving countries for your own incompetent zero corrupt Standards.....
      😂

    • @conradknight1181
      @conradknight1181 3 місяці тому

      Better China and Russia they didn't colonisers and inslaved Africans. We all know the West horror show in Africa and on Africans...

  • @ruggeddiscipline6026
    @ruggeddiscipline6026 3 місяці тому +1

    The white man and Africa 😂😂😂

  • @WalkOverHotCoal
    @WalkOverHotCoal 3 місяці тому +2

    With so much fakes and propaganda, I always turn to Times Radio for some truths.

  • @josephbarra8502
    @josephbarra8502 3 місяці тому +1

    Biased News

  • @dexterspeights3484
    @dexterspeights3484 3 місяці тому +1

    Without Africa's natural resources, Chinese factories can not manufacture anything for export!

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 3 місяці тому +2

      Depends what kind of minerals.
      For EV cars, Colbert were from Africa and Russia.
      Nickle was from Indonesia, Lithium was from S.America.
      China also produced alot of their own rare minerals.
      Just a fact, China just abit smaller than the entired size of Africa, not a small country.

    • @dexterspeights3484
      @dexterspeights3484 3 місяці тому +1

      Why are Chinese companies camping out in Africa? Gold, Platinum, Copper, Coltan, Iron, Uranium, Diamonds, and Oil!

    • @superkd7030
      @superkd7030 3 місяці тому

      @dexterspeights3484 Then is for the same reason you westerns are. Cause is certain not because you care for their well being. So what's the problem?

    • @dexterspeights3484
      @dexterspeights3484 3 місяці тому

      Economic parasites from 1st world countries need to drain 3rd world countries of natural resources to enrich themselves.

    • @mujinhanfearlessmu9072
      @mujinhanfearlessmu9072 3 місяці тому

      @@dexterspeights3484 ... Then why don't YOU do it on your own instead of asking for Chinese help? Your leaders should talk less and actually DO things for your citizens instead of being c0rrupted by the western p0wers. China was poorer than African nations 50 years ago but now surpassed the whole "West".

  • @michaelotieno6524
    @michaelotieno6524 3 місяці тому

    Does this dude know anything WB and IMF loans are never written off, either he is lying or ignorant.

  • @dennisly9933
    @dennisly9933 3 місяці тому

    Your headlines and statements is wearing thin.

  • @agusjusup
    @agusjusup 3 місяці тому

    China kerja win win ..Kedua nya senang..cewek ini sakit kehilangan makan gratis

  • @HerbertLin-y2l
    @HerbertLin-y2l 3 місяці тому

    tabloid reporting

  • @Alex-ig2xr
    @Alex-ig2xr 3 місяці тому

    BS

  • @SaeedIbrahim-ic6fr
    @SaeedIbrahim-ic6fr 3 місяці тому +2

    The west is in pain

  • @jansg405
    @jansg405 3 місяці тому

    How come No Mainland chinese want to migrate to Africa?😂

  • @mlcironforce9842
    @mlcironforce9842 3 місяці тому

    lol

  • @ajwo5984
    @ajwo5984 3 місяці тому +2

    Liars racists telling lies. These people have no shame.

  • @porterblemodels
    @porterblemodels 3 місяці тому

    The usual clown show from the times.

  • @therealdeplorables5968
    @therealdeplorables5968 3 місяці тому +2

    He's reading from a script too...also absolutely pathetic!

  • @therealdeplorables5968
    @therealdeplorables5968 3 місяці тому +2

    She's reading from a script...absolutely pathetic!

  • @ceebee491
    @ceebee491 3 місяці тому

    *wear

  • @therealdeplorables5968
    @therealdeplorables5968 3 місяці тому

    Who wrote your book sunshine?🤣

  • @yukwahho9503
    @yukwahho9503 3 місяці тому

    The shallow view points from the West is just a laugh.😂😂😂😂

  • @Jane-ch9yb
    @Jane-ch9yb 3 місяці тому

    West propaganda!