Got to say, while most of youtube is dealing with a sub 2 second attention span, I've watched these vids so many times since I got a disting mk4 in my skiff. Like the creative take on Os's vids. Thanks dude
Such a good module. A Swiss Army knife that is worth paying for the ink cartridge to print out the manual. Plus/minus, they update this thing with powerful new features all the time (I think I bought it with 4.12 and now they are up to 4.25) so you will be printing often.
I wonder if I could use the Disting as a Lustmord machine. Load the memory card with some industrial sounds I record with a field recorder, then run that sound from Disting into my other modules (especially Clouds for some granular action). I think I may need this module...
I think the reason LED's are not used very often for audio jacks is because Expert Sleepers is achieving this by using a small SMD LED mounted on the PCB just underneath the audio jack that is mounted horizontal on the PCB. So the LED shines into the side of this type of audio jack that uses translucent plastic. This is why the light appears more intense on the left side of the jack.
I really don't care how pretty it is... I just want the information. Considering how minimalistic the interface is, it's a great help. I'm just getting started in modular and looking for bang-for-the-buck. Plus, with this, I can determine which kind of modules are best suited for my own personal needs. Anything that I use all the time on the Disting is probably a worthy investment in a dedicated module.
the problem with the design is that the types of jacks used are lets face it absolute garbage, you only have to look at a patch cable the wrong way and it falls out of the disting. (I have 2 mk4's and both suffer this problem and I have heard other people complain about it saying it's been like that since Mk2 so it's not just a faulty batch of jacks) if you actually look at the jacks on the pcb it's clear to see they are cheap plastic rubbish that barely hold the tip of a patch cable. www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1617038 (thread from way back in Mk1 days so it's not a new problem) I have even considered desoldering the jacks and replacing them with something a bit better quality (I'd be willing to sacrifice the lights for a better quality jack tbh.) it's an amazing module but this is it's only downside for me. I'm willing to bet that most companies don't do it because the quality of plastic jacks required for the effect is terrible and they simply won't put a plastic jack on their module. the only other modules I've seen plastic jacks on are Doepfer stuff. (but even the plastic ones they use are not as bad as on the disting)
Could you please do a vid with the Clock functions.......first the simple stuff as simple Multiplier/Divider followed by Clock Lfo etc..? Thanks & Cheers !
I was wondering how this thing worked as I just got a semi-modular synth that uses Hz/V and a Disting is the second most recommended module behind an English Tear. Being new to the modular side, I was under the impression knobs and inputs\outputs were single purpose, so pictures of the mk4 not hooked up or turned on raised many questions 😂
I like the flexibility but for me there's just too much in one module with a tiny screen and very limited controls. Is there anything like it but with a much better screen and more knobs?
The disting EX of course. It packs two of these into one, side by side screens no scrolling. As well as a single mode where instead of two mk4s you have one more powerful toolset. It absolutely indispensable for me, I have a couple now. If anyone is thinking about buying these modules, just download the PDF manual to see the exhaustive list of features and see if they satisfy.
how's your rack going 3 years later? i've had two mother 32s for a long time and i'm looking to expand into eurorack soon myself, and this along with better envelopes and a set of attenuverters are on my list.
@@SomeOne-pd6vm I ended up getting a disting as my first expansion module. Could not figure out how to really get it to do what I wanted it to do. I ended up spending way more money on more modules and the other 2 moog semi modular units. Now the 3 moog units are in a 4 tier rack kit with a top rack full of miscellaneous modules. The disting would be a great option for someone who understands the deeper mechanics of euro rack better than myself, which is a pretty low bar tbh. However, the doepfer summing mixer, cal synth typhoon and the Pico DSP have since become my must have modules for the moog units.
Great video. Thank you. I have the Minibrute 2s, Plaits and the Disting IV. More videos on how to use them together would be great along with the DFAM too please. How are you routing the audio out? Do you use the Minibtute out or are you using a mixer for Plaits? New to this so any basic beginners stuff based around the setup I’ve mentioned much appreciated.
thanks for the re-ignition of my old disting love! where can I find those fine, thin, braided cables? I am searching for those for a long time. ginko had some in the past, but not anymore. thanks!!
loopop I know the indents are meant to be felt, and can be heard by your ears but they also add a clicking sound to the recording, you'd think that they wouldnt. Some of my gear with these knobs dont, but my kp3 does. Maybe I'm rambling..idk
This must simply be the single best module in existence, relative to its price. I'm absolutely getting one. I think what is missing is the ability to directly control it with a computer? It'd be awesome if you could plug a USB cable into it and have a proper GUI interface on a computer to control it.
Hi, I have been struggling to organize and format correctly the sd card. Do you know of any pre formate’s cards for the disting or anyone that would be wlling to share the contents of their card already setup for quantization and all the other functions that need the sd card? I hardly use the disting because it is not intelligible to me. I wrote to expert sleepers and they just said ‘read the manual”. I don’t understand the manual😀
can dis ting be a sequencer (don't own one yet)? theres an euclydian mode, from what i can see, but is there a classic sequencer there? just wondering?
I assume that state is saved so when I power rack up this module get back to its previous state... I know that earlier version couldn't remember the last state
Love your reviews, I want to use the disting as a dual quantizer for the DFAM pitch and random pitch source quanitzed to the same key , it seems the scales are organized by modes, how does the transpose work ? and or is there a way to simply select a key such as b minor????
Hey, thanks so much for the comment. I honestly don’t remember this by heart, just check out the manual - it’s a free download off their website. Sorry… There are so many modules it’s hard to remember them by heart…
Great video! Are audio files recorded with the audio record algorithm usable with the audio playback algorithm? If so are they immediately available to that algorithm to or do you have to eject the SD card and move them manually and add them to a playlist with a computer?
I found the manual and it doesn't address this in particular but it does say that audio files used for playback must be listed in a playlist text file so I can only assume that users would need to do that manually. I'm guessing the record audio algorithm was written with recording performances in mind which you may not want to use for the majority of the audio playback modes. Perhaps a future update or new algorithm could offer a "sampler" mode that generates a new (or updates a existing) playlist after you record bypassing the need to manage things manually.
No ha no.. Go research yourself. I heard from more than someone involved with MI directly... fyi google hairstyle we call plats as in platted, for girls. It's spelled plaits. I presume by your accent you aren't from the motherland, but many english words aren't always said how they are spelled on paper.. ;-) Thanks
Myfinekilt ok you said research so I did - I guess it depends on your motherland ;) US says plates, UK says platts....: ua-cam.com/video/psXTL5wcBN4/v-deo.html - so, I guess we’re both right... now I don’t want to mess with MI but I don’t think I can bring myself to say platts... from now on it’s “this cool module”....
i'm looking for a module cv to midi but i'm not interesting of sequencing an external synth, I would modulate it with the cc message. I could use this module ?Or, may be, you could suggest to me some other .Thanks
Hi. Since you have both, is it better to get this instead of Ornamet&Crime?, it looks like Disting does more things but i think having a better screen is a big plus. Or do you recommend having both? (in a small compact system)
The Disting can save 64 presets, which saves the algo and all parameters. But I'm gonna copy from the manual for further explanation about preset 0: Preset 0, the first slot, is special: • The contents of preset 0 are loaded at power-up. • When switching algorithm, the new algorithm state is saved to preset 0.* Therefore if you want to save the disting's state so it powers up as it is currently, you can manually save to preset 0, which is “click, turn, click, click” on the encoder. Preset 0 is also an exception to the above comment regarding favourites. The actual favourites slot is stored. *The thinking here is that if you forget to save your preset before turning off the power, at least the disting will come back up in the same algorithm next time you start.
the reason why i still hesitate with these and many other modules is the ever growing trend of putting twelve billion functions on one knob and expecting ppl who have a large number of modules to remember those.
you're right - it's impossible to remember. I think the idea is to give you the option to have the module you need in case there's a missing piece in a particular setup, but yeah, it's impossible to remember by heart without referencing the manual. a better solution is an app called "Modes" which has all the algorithms quickly available. not ideal though of course.
Be sure to check out also the Disting EX: ua-cam.com/video/ctk83GoUdbw/v-deo.html
The lights on the Disting was invented by Clever Expert Sleepers I believe! so maybe patent issues for other companies?
Got to say, while most of youtube is dealing with a sub 2 second attention span, I've watched these vids so many times since I got a disting mk4 in my skiff. Like the creative take on Os's vids. Thanks dude
These videos are so helpful. I've been thinking about getting the Disting as my next module, so this overview was a great reference point!
Bravo for using the Prelude from the 1st Suite! Great videos, Mr. Patreon!
Loopop, you have the only channel to which I usually come back to revive my love for these toys you so well show us. Be blessed, Fren!
this video reminds me what im not doing with the disting lol. time to go play with it and dig deep again
Such a good module. A Swiss Army knife that is worth paying for the ink cartridge to print out the manual. Plus/minus, they update this thing with powerful new features all the time (I think I bought it with 4.12 and now they are up to 4.25) so you will be printing often.
I wonder if I could use the Disting as a Lustmord machine. Load the memory card with some industrial sounds I record with a field recorder, then run that sound from Disting into my other modules (especially Clouds for some granular action). I think I may need this module...
I want the new Disting EX that is great having 2 in one module now with better screen too.
It’s amaze balls.
I got 4 distings now. At first I wasn't sure about it but then I kept getting more and more
I think the reason LED's are not used very often for audio jacks is because Expert Sleepers is achieving this by using a small SMD LED mounted on the PCB just underneath the audio jack that is mounted horizontal on the PCB. So the LED shines into the side of this type of audio jack that uses translucent plastic. This is why the light appears more intense on the left side of the jack.
retoided I didn’t notice it but I’d still prefer that to an opaque jack. It’s just a great way to figure out “bugs” in a patch
I really don't care how pretty it is... I just want the information. Considering how minimalistic the interface is, it's a great help. I'm just getting started in modular and looking for bang-for-the-buck. Plus, with this, I can determine which kind of modules are best suited for my own personal needs. Anything that I use all the time on the Disting is probably a worthy investment in a dedicated module.
Expert Sleepers invented the tech behind the lights so it might be patented.
the problem with the design is that the types of jacks used are lets face it absolute garbage, you only have to look at a patch cable the wrong way and it falls out of the disting. (I have 2 mk4's and both suffer this problem and I have heard other people complain about it saying it's been like that since Mk2 so it's not just a faulty batch of jacks)
if you actually look at the jacks on the pcb it's clear to see they are cheap plastic rubbish that barely hold the tip of a patch cable.
www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1617038 (thread from way back in Mk1 days so it's not a new problem)
I have even considered desoldering the jacks and replacing them with something a bit better quality (I'd be willing to sacrifice the lights for a better quality jack tbh.)
it's an amazing module but this is it's only downside for me.
I'm willing to bet that most companies don't do it because the quality of plastic jacks required for the effect is terrible and they simply won't put a plastic jack on their module.
the only other modules I've seen plastic jacks on are Doepfer stuff. (but even the plastic ones they use are not as bad as on the disting)
I'm starting w the minibrute 2s, rackbrute 3u and an o coast tossed in there I'm "just" starting and it looks like I'm getting lots of these or the ex
I have a MK2 and MK3 already but will definitely be getting a MK4 as well. Thanks for the video.
I thought the title said disgusting :D
The mini led matrix is super cool, never seen one of those that small before
Could you please do a vid with the Clock functions.......first the simple stuff as simple Multiplier/Divider followed by Clock Lfo etc..? Thanks & Cheers !
Noted ...
I was wondering how this thing worked as I just got a semi-modular synth that uses Hz/V and a Disting is the second most recommended module behind an English Tear. Being new to the modular side, I was under the impression knobs and inputs\outputs were single purpose, so pictures of the mk4 not hooked up or turned on raised many questions 😂
I like the flexibility but for me there's just too much in one module with a tiny screen and very limited controls. Is there anything like it but with a much better screen and more knobs?
ornament and crime could be an alternative for all the CV stuff
The disting EX of course. It packs two of these into one, side by side screens no scrolling. As well as a single mode where instead of two mk4s you have one more powerful toolset. It absolutely indispensable for me, I have a couple now. If anyone is thinking about buying these modules, just download the PDF manual to see the exhaustive list of features and see if they satisfy.
nice throwback tune at 5 minutes, classic early techno
Great video, hoping to grab one of these as my first module to expand my mother32
how's your rack going 3 years later? i've had two mother 32s for a long time and i'm looking to expand into eurorack soon myself, and this along with better envelopes and a set of attenuverters are on my list.
@@SomeOne-pd6vm I ended up getting a disting as my first expansion module. Could not figure out how to really get it to do what I wanted it to do. I ended up spending way more money on more modules and the other 2 moog semi modular units. Now the 3 moog units are in a 4 tier rack kit with a top rack full of miscellaneous modules. The disting would be a great option for someone who understands the deeper mechanics of euro rack better than myself, which is a pretty low bar tbh. However, the doepfer summing mixer, cal synth typhoon and the Pico DSP have since become my must have modules for the moog units.
Great video. Thank you. I have the Minibrute 2s, Plaits and the Disting IV. More videos on how to use them together would be great along with the DFAM too please. How are you routing the audio out? Do you use the Minibtute out or are you using a mixer for Plaits? New to this so any basic beginners stuff based around the setup I’ve mentioned much appreciated.
Thanks! I use either ES8 into a computer or panmix out to speakers or a recorder
thanks for the re-ignition of my old disting love! where can I find those fine, thin, braided cables? I am searching for those for a long time. ginko had some in the past, but not anymore. thanks!!
s33k3r3000 they came with my MiniBrute 2 - not sure if you can buy them....
loopop I am in love with my Arturia cables, but I am afraid that they are not selling them separately.
Really close to my plans for a MB2s x RB 3u set up. Just cram a synthbox in there somewhere lol.
I got Mk4 but I plan to get few more. they are so useful
nice little setup... definitely would have gone that way if arturia had that gear out a few years ago.
5:23 Why do knobs with many indents make that sound? My kp3 does that too
They want you to feel the steps - makes sense
loopop I know the indents are meant to be felt, and can be heard by your ears but they also add a clicking sound to the recording, you'd think that they wouldnt. Some of my gear with these knobs dont, but my kp3 does. Maybe I'm rambling..idk
Oh - got it - I have a mic that’s why you can hear it - I never had it actually impact the sound. Could be a short in your KP3 or something
This must simply be the single best module in existence, relative to its price. I'm absolutely getting one.
I think what is missing is the ability to directly control it with a computer? It'd be awesome if you could plug a USB cable into it and have a proper GUI interface on a computer to control it.
The disting ex has full midi breakout - not the mk4?
@@GeorgeLocke it does , through headers in the back.
@@RabRabNZ yeah. I'm not sure that it goes very far towards satisfying the OP's question, so my question was dumb twice :)
Hi, I have been struggling to organize and format correctly the sd card. Do you know of any pre formate’s cards for the disting or anyone that would be wlling to share the contents of their card already setup for quantization and all the other functions that need the sd card? I hardly use the disting because it is not intelligible to me. I wrote to expert sleepers and they just said ‘read the manual”. I don’t understand the manual😀
I have the same setup with minibrute and rack brute. cool
can dis ting be a sequencer (don't own one yet)? theres an euclydian mode, from what i can see, but is there a classic sequencer there? just wondering?
Great video! Thanks.
Heck. In. Based!!!!!!!!
How fortuitous, my Disting arrived today!
Rofled at Bach :)
I assume that state is saved so when I power rack up this module get back to its previous state... I know that earlier version couldn't remember the last state
All versions have remembered their state.
mine arrives today! woo!
Love your reviews, I want to use the disting as a dual quantizer for the DFAM pitch and random pitch source quanitzed to the same key , it seems the scales are organized by modes, how does the transpose work ? and or is there a way to simply select a key such as b minor????
Hey, thanks so much for the comment. I honestly don’t remember this by heart, just check out the manual - it’s a free download off their website. Sorry… There are so many modules it’s hard to remember them by heart…
thanks for the reply , review request strymon magneto
Great video! Are audio files recorded with the audio record algorithm usable with the audio playback algorithm? If so are they immediately available to that algorithm to or do you have to eject the SD card and move them manually and add them to a playlist with a computer?
I didn’t read the manual on that part but my guess is that yes you will need to create a new playlist
I found the manual and it doesn't address this in particular but it does say that audio files used for playback must be listed in a playlist text file so I can only assume that users would need to do that manually. I'm guessing the record audio algorithm was written with recording performances in mind which you may not want to use for the majority of the audio playback modes. Perhaps a future update or new algorithm could offer a "sampler" mode that generates a new (or updates a existing) playlist after you record bypassing the need to manage things manually.
It's plaits (pronounced plats) hence it replaced braids... ;-). (Both hair style/techniques)
Myfinekilt wait... you pronounce braids brads?
No ha no.. Go research yourself. I heard from more than someone involved with MI directly... fyi google hairstyle we call plats as in platted, for girls. It's spelled plaits. I presume by your accent you aren't from the motherland, but many english words aren't always said how they are spelled on paper.. ;-) Thanks
Myfinekilt ok you said research so I did - I guess it depends on your motherland ;) US says plates, UK says platts....: ua-cam.com/video/psXTL5wcBN4/v-deo.html - so, I guess we’re both right... now I don’t want to mess with MI but I don’t think I can bring myself to say platts... from now on it’s “this cool module”....
exactly. I'll be first to admit the confusion myself!! cool module works.. thought the name could be less arbitrary. :-)
Pretty sure it is pronounced plau̇-təs guys. I mean obviously!
learned something new ... nice
i'm looking for a module cv to midi but i'm not interesting of sequencing an external synth, I would modulate it with the cc message. I could use this module ?Or, may be, you could suggest to me some other .Thanks
Check out my recent midi to cv to midi video
When not filming this which mode do you use most?
almost always a different thing depending on which hole I need to plug
How is the latency on the Disting when doing the dual sample playback?
Gustavo Alberto Elizondo I didn’t notice it. not sure how to test it but you can see if you hear it in this clip I guess?
Speaking of semi-modular.. what do you think of theMFB Dominion 1?
I’ve not tried it. Maybe someone else can chime in
The mini what 2? What is the name of the small semi modular exactly?
PaterTenebrarum1 MiniBrute 2S
It has a quantizer as well, correct?
yes
Hi. Since you have both, is it better to get this instead of Ornamet&Crime?, it looks like Disting does more things but i think having a better screen is a big plus. Or do you recommend having both? (in a small compact system)
Yes both are in my top modules list - probably disting higher up. I agree disting would be killer with a bigger screen though
I would buy this module just for the MIDI file playing.
merci pour cette vidéo _
User error,,this thing is the bomb,,,not a lot it cant do...
I got 3 distings so far in 168hp rack.
Would this unit be sufficient if I wanted to connect CV from my computer? I already have DC coupled Soundcard, however it is not really that great.
Deaq no, you need the ES-8
or the cheaper ES FH2
after you power off then back on does the mk4 recall its last settings?
The Disting can save 64 presets, which saves the algo and all parameters. But I'm gonna copy from the manual for further explanation about preset 0:
Preset 0, the first slot, is special:
• The contents of preset 0 are loaded at power-up.
• When switching algorithm, the new algorithm state is saved to preset 0.*
Therefore if you want to save the disting's state so it powers up as it is currently, you can manually
save to preset 0, which is “click, turn, click, click” on the encoder.
Preset 0 is also an exception to the above comment regarding favourites. The actual favourites slot
is stored.
*The thinking here is that if you forget to save your preset before turning off the power, at least the disting will come
back up in the same algorithm next time you start.
the reason why i still hesitate with these and many other modules is the ever growing trend of putting twelve billion functions on one knob and expecting ppl who have a large number of modules to remember those.
you're right - it's impossible to remember. I think the idea is to give you the option to have the module you need in case there's a missing piece in a particular setup, but yeah, it's impossible to remember by heart without referencing the manual. a better solution is an app called "Modes" which has all the algorithms quickly available. not ideal though of course.
"Now this is algorithm i8" Why put it in your top 5 then? I'll get me coat.
Nah you got me. I thought I would C1 I liked B4 I had to pick out of H8. Didn’t mean to F1 up
@@loopop Marvellous.