Plans to Partition China between the European Powers

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  • @attiladerhunne2998
    @attiladerhunne2998 3 роки тому +1624

    Let that sink in: Even China in their century of humiliation humiliated Italy.

    • @-et37-
      @-et37- 3 роки тому +167

      Holy shit lmao

    • @dr.nosborn6330
      @dr.nosborn6330 3 роки тому +47

      Loool

    • @qyyllamas8889
      @qyyllamas8889 3 роки тому +24

      Pin this @Jabzy

    • @nni9310
      @nni9310 3 роки тому +80

      China was a powerful nation even during its "century of humiliation".

    • @attiladerhunne2998
      @attiladerhunne2998 3 роки тому +21

      Get humiliated by everyone, get laughed on by everyone for getting humiliated by everyone

  • @aliksanon6491
    @aliksanon6491 3 роки тому +655

    Italy: *gets beaten by an african empire not even 1/4th chinas size*
    Italy: "china, gimme port!"
    China: "No"
    Italy: *sad meatball noises*

    • @notarmchairhistorian7779
      @notarmchairhistorian7779 3 роки тому +43

      Italy is one of the nerds who wants to be with the cool kids but just couldnt quite get there.... and then ends up looking like an asshole going back to his fellow dweebs. He's still bestfriends with germany tho so thats ok.

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 3 роки тому +5

      Ew! Weepy meatballs!

    • @numega7323
      @numega7323 3 роки тому +9

      @@notarmchairhistorian7779 very specific

    • @shermanfirefly5410
      @shermanfirefly5410 3 роки тому +3

      @@notarmchairhistorian7779 If only they have more fuel they could achieve more

    • @TheZachary86
      @TheZachary86 3 роки тому +6

      @@seesee2132
      I mean they hated bailing them out all the time. understandable

  • @gm1215
    @gm1215 3 роки тому +753

    I wouldnt exactly used the word "freed" when talking about Korea after the Sino-Japanese war

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому +222

      That's fair ha.

    • @papajohn6081
      @papajohn6081 3 роки тому +254

      Japan: I wouldn't say "freed", more like under new "management".

    • @antoniotraub6183
      @antoniotraub6183 3 роки тому +30

      He did say freed from Chinese influence

    • @franciscoflamenco
      @franciscoflamenco 3 роки тому +29

      To be fair, Japan around 1900 is an entirely different beast compared to Japan in the 1930s. The most traumatic experiences the Koreans suffered through came later.

    • @schneejacques3502
      @schneejacques3502 3 роки тому +55

      @@antoniotraub6183 Qing influence in Korean politics till the 19th century was very small. Despite there being coup and puppets kings the Qing didn't care about Korea politics.

  • @makouras
    @makouras 3 роки тому +798

    Italy's attempts at forming an "empire" are almost comedic. Even up to WWII.

    • @skovlanpeoplesrepublic
      @skovlanpeoplesrepublic 3 роки тому +30

      @Depresso Caspico Then please give us sources for your claim.

    • @leonardodavid2842
      @leonardodavid2842 3 роки тому +42

      @Depresso Caspico
      I am also Italian, and your statement is somewhat false.
      Italians did want an empire. Obviously the pathetic failed attempts disheartened this will.
      Examples are the political campaigns in 1912 and 1934 by Italian politicians, and the massive popular support they gained.

    • @drunkenlancer5895
      @drunkenlancer5895 3 роки тому +10

      @Depresso Caspico I think it would be fair to say that everyone *wanted* an empire (including the italians), but most didn't want to sacrifice for it. I'm sure many Italians believed that attempting to form an empire would always end up being a net negative for the Italian people. If empires were free, everyone would have one.
      Seems likely that many Italians generally didn't want to burn foreign peoples and their own to get an empire.
      I think that this is a fair assessment :)

    • @Randomdive
      @Randomdive 3 роки тому +5

      @Depresso Caspico Italy also was only Italy for a limited time once the world order was largely established. But before then mercantile states like Genoa and Venice had colonies throughout the Mediterranean and Black Sea.

    • @Randomdive
      @Randomdive 3 роки тому +5

      @Depresso Caspico A colony is a colony, no? It just didn't make commercial sense for them to expand further

  • @12D_D21
    @12D_D21 3 роки тому +524

    Portuguese Macau just chilling during all of this

    • @danishzuhairi338
      @danishzuhairi338 3 роки тому +7

      Yes lmao XD

    • @Randomdive
      @Randomdive 3 роки тому +42

      Macau's also been just chilling, in comparison to all the turmoil over in HK in the last few years

    • @KristofKarwinskithegreat-se5pu
      @KristofKarwinskithegreat-se5pu 3 роки тому +18

      Well sadly it will be Annexed in few years

    • @SuperSanic..
      @SuperSanic.. 3 роки тому +13

      @@KristofKarwinskithegreat-se5pu why is sad?
      Why can't west accept strong china?
      Why must china be a subservient to west?

    • @KristofKarwinskithegreat-se5pu
      @KristofKarwinskithegreat-se5pu 3 роки тому +39

      @@SuperSanic.. I don't like china because it's abusing minorities

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 роки тому +190

    And that American was John Cena

  • @ChavvyCommunist
    @ChavvyCommunist 3 роки тому +230

    You're forgetting another reason they hadn't fully colonised Africa before the scramble: indigenous diseases killing Europeans (and their horses) en masse made colonising Africa more than 100 km from the sea virtually impossible.

    • @hunting4honeys
      @hunting4honeys 3 роки тому +10

      'hoses' are you from Yorkshire or Texas lol

    • @ToastieBRRRN
      @ToastieBRRRN 3 роки тому +11

      Your name made me spit out my Yorkshire tea. XD

    • @ChavvyCommunist
      @ChavvyCommunist 3 роки тому +7

      @@hunting4honeys That was a typo lol

    • @yotubeification
      @yotubeification 3 роки тому +29

      Also some areas they didn't control at all. At least not directly. There were some inland groups who didn't know they were under European influence until decolonization created the modern nation states in africa.

    • @mixtapemania6769
      @mixtapemania6769 3 роки тому +5

      Without rapid fire weapons it would have been impossible to colonize Africa. Even with the west African empires in a weakened state it would have been a suicide mission. Europeans would probably have reduced their population greatly only to lose the colonies in less than a year.

  • @Newbmann
    @Newbmann 3 роки тому +262

    European Idealism durring this time was crazy.

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 3 роки тому +32

      Now Europe is wiped eunuch.

    • @raclark2730
      @raclark2730 3 роки тому +4

      @Sneed Central Oh typo, either will work. 👍

    • @zhcultivator
      @zhcultivator 3 роки тому +2

      ikr

    • @Alaryk111
      @Alaryk111 3 роки тому +1

      @@raclark2730 Can you explain what you mean?

    • @Newbmann
      @Newbmann 3 роки тому +6

      @@raclark2730 well yeah you do have a point
      Also Not going to pretend like that idealism has gone away just in a diffrent form WE DONT NEED TO PROTECT OURSELEVES AMERICA WILL ALWAYS DO IT FOR US stuff like that.

  • @Orthane
    @Orthane 3 роки тому +75

    "Between the European powers"
    Japan: *Am I a joke to you?*

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 3 роки тому +12

      Russia thought so.

    • @Orthane
      @Orthane 3 роки тому +15

      @@WhiteCamry Maybe, and then Japan wrecked them.

    • @yanjiangxia3065
      @yanjiangxia3065 3 роки тому +3

      hi, it is even not that wrong. at that time, Japan believes that it is an european country. 脱亚入欧。

    • @Roketsune
      @Roketsune 3 роки тому +2

      Astolfo is fucking hot.

    • @Fairenough642
      @Fairenough642 3 роки тому

      @@Roketsune he's the best

  • @alexshi2357
    @alexshi2357 3 роки тому +186

    Even without the British and Americans, it would probably be pretty difficult for the Europeans to colonise China, due to the breakout of the Xinhai Revolution and then warlordism less than 20 years after they really started taking interests in the country.

    • @user_____M
      @user_____M 3 роки тому +14

      It wouldn't, they would only need to divide it into small "independent" states, like USA and Russia did to Europe after the world wars.

    • @alexshi2357
      @alexshi2357 3 роки тому +44

      @@user_____M The colonial empires of the late 19th to early 20th centuries had very different goals than the US and USSR during the Cold War. The colonial powers wanted to take land for themselves to make money instead of creating ideologically aligned states. Creating small "independent" states would be costly and unbeneficial to any 19th-century colonial power, not to mention being very difficult as regionalism in China very much does not exist as it did in Europe.
      Edit: "regionalism" is probably not the right word; it's more like "regional nationalism"

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 3 роки тому +3

      Britain almost won over China when that Emperor wannabe wanted to be a British puppet to rule China but America put that idea down hard.

    • @josephwang5859
      @josephwang5859 3 роки тому +1

      Not that hard. The number of people that you need to run a colony isn't that much.

    • @josephwang5859
      @josephwang5859 3 роки тому +17

      @@alexshi2357 I think this reverses cause and effect. Different parts of China are as different as different parts of the Arab world. The reason that China is very anti-regional comes from the efforts to partition China. If those had succeeded, China would have looked like the Arab world.

  • @nicholascole9673
    @nicholascole9673 3 роки тому +56

    If I recall correctly the king of bohemia wanted to partition Poland between themselves, the Teutonic order and galicia-volhynia

  • @sharadowasdr
    @sharadowasdr 3 роки тому +64

    Honestly the partitioning of India was a strange plan that actually happened. You could go over the proposed plans which never happened, like the creation of a separate country made up of the princely states.

    • @the11382
      @the11382 3 роки тому +4

      More like the British establishing Pakistan to reduce/stop Hindu-Muslim hostilities. It severely reduced thousands of years of hostility. It worked until China gave Pakistan nuclear weapons.

    • @photon812
      @photon812 3 роки тому +6

      @@the11382 India had nukes before Pakistan, and they launched an offensive war right after the partition. The British caused these hostilities to begin with. Hindus and Muslims had no problem fighting side by side until the British brainwashed them.

    • @the11382
      @the11382 3 роки тому +3

      @@photon812 Lies

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 Рік тому +1

      ​@@photon812 india had nukes tested before Pakistan but they didn't have It because of sanctions from abroad.....India didn't launch an offensive war it was Pakistan who lauched it to gain kashmir

  • @spencersss1251
    @spencersss1251 3 роки тому +89

    The shear size of China as well as the lack of central control made it so difficult to control rebellions . Also the trade deficit as well as cost of the army was a problem as well

    • @spencerrodden2669
      @spencerrodden2669 3 роки тому +1

      Looks like a real comment. 31 like but my comments was the first.

    • @WhiteCamry
      @WhiteCamry 3 роки тому +1

      Sheer shear.

    • @spencerrodden2669
      @spencerrodden2669 3 роки тому +1

      @@WhiteCamry How do you know what I meant maybe I was talking about the internal stresses of China tearing it apart

    • @frostonium
      @frostonium 3 роки тому +1

      @@spencerrodden2669 I don't think they were talking to you

    • @spencerrodden2669
      @spencerrodden2669 3 роки тому +2

      @@frostonium it was a Chinese bot. I kept getting reply notifications.

  • @chesthoIe
    @chesthoIe 3 роки тому +73

    Woah, the war between the Yue and the We was crazy. Picture this, you are a We spear man, you crest a hill and see a wall of Yue snarling out for miles in front of you. When they get close, the entire front line cuts their own heads off. Just like that. "King Goujian's army was known for scaring its enemies before battle because its front line consisted of criminals sentenced to death who committed suicide by decapitating themselves."

    • @nizam-alem6761
      @nizam-alem6761 3 роки тому +4

      damn that was epic

    • @musAKulture
      @musAKulture 3 роки тому +7

      yes but that was 2500 years before this

    • @jont2576
      @jont2576 3 роки тому +3

      Why would the criminals cut their own heads off to prove their loyalty to king guojian?
      U would think they would turn around and drive that sword thru the nearest soldier instead in the hopes of they survive,the enemy might let them live.

    • @tisFrancesfault
      @tisFrancesfault 3 роки тому +9

      @@jont2576 because the lives of their families was at risk.

  • @realhawaii5o
    @realhawaii5o 3 роки тому +42

    Portugal was a true pioneer when it came to being in China.

  • @armchairwarrior963
    @armchairwarrior963 3 роки тому +21

    US did not save China, China was too big to conquer, land is bigger than Europe itself, more people, they would have needed a ton of troops to maintain the empire. This is why they only took ports and areas on the fringes of China.

    • @weizhang9846
      @weizhang9846 3 роки тому +8

      Exactly. The maker of this video doesn’t really know much about China - you can very obviously tell he has zero perspective or context from the China side. Any Europeans actually taking over land would have been ejected later - and it would just bring nationalism to China decades earlier than what actually took place.

    • @ikengaspirit3063
      @ikengaspirit3063 3 роки тому +5

      I mean, the Europeans managed to conquer Africa and it is territoriality massive.
      And China at that time was much richer than Africa, it could definitely support a larger troop presence.
      But in all likelihood, China would be made into a string on protectorates not direct colonies.

    • @armchairwarrior963
      @armchairwarrior963 3 роки тому

      @@sn0wdon Sure but their populations were tiny, and most of the people were not under their direct control just colonies. Those people have their own issues to deal with their colonial masters.

    • @armchairwarrior963
      @armchairwarrior963 3 роки тому +1

      @@sn0wdon India was never one people. It's a modern British creation. They had local identities etc... Different histories and different languages etc.. Much easier to conquer.

    • @bunnyfreakz
      @bunnyfreakz 5 місяців тому

      No shit. China was a established country with huge population unlike Native American , South East Asia or Australian. The biggest reason why European stopped their effort further with colonization because Chinese have potential to fighting back. Even Chinese had inferior technology but they have spirit to fight back.

  • @samtoomer9447
    @samtoomer9447 3 роки тому +32

    Love the new format!

  • @tempestmars123
    @tempestmars123 3 роки тому +37

    My hometown is “Port Arthur”, called lvshun (旅顺) in Chinese. So many people in my hometown were massacred by these colonial powers during that time. And decades later, my grandparents were enslaved as child labors by the Japanese. It’s a dark page of humanity.

    • @allenwong2219
      @allenwong2219 3 роки тому

      The West only mentions holocaust and nothing about other massacres and genocides.

    • @allenwong2219
      @allenwong2219 2 роки тому

      @fuckyoutubepolicy staff Mao copied Stalin's policy of collective farming.

  • @diphyllum8180
    @diphyllum8180 3 роки тому +101

    Potential ways that the United States could balkanise are endlessly fascinating to me. Alternative maps of India are also interesting though, like other ways that Partition could theoretically have gone, or even what could conceivably happen if India balkanises in the future

    • @Snp2024
      @Snp2024 3 роки тому +9

      India almost did balkanized look up sardar Patel he is basically Indian Bismarck . India would be 200+ small states if not for his quick thinking also bcz Indians were fed up with local monarchies ruler of Travancore was almost killed by his own people bcz he refused to abdicate and give land to New Republic of India

    • @VersusARCH
      @VersusARCH 3 роки тому +7

      You need a weak and divisive region on which several antagonistic great powers exert serious influence for Balkanization to happen. USA and to a lesser extent India do not meet that criteria.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 2 роки тому +1

      Eh they’re all pretty derivative of each other.

  • @santi2683
    @santi2683 3 роки тому +49

    Lmao imagine claiming to be a world power and be defeated by african tribes and getting humiliated by ever civil war-ying Qing

    • @FrostbitexP
      @FrostbitexP 3 роки тому +23

      The Ethiopian kingdom was not "African tribes"

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 3 роки тому +1

      @@FrostbitexP i think he means the Zulu

    • @theuniverse5173
      @theuniverse5173 3 роки тому +3

      @@CausticSpace I lack knowledge about african history but the zulu kingdom won one battle against the british empire not against italy or was it both?

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 3 роки тому +1

      @@theuniverse5173 I was trolling lol

    • @theuniverse5173
      @theuniverse5173 3 роки тому +1

      @@CausticSpace lol

  • @HuangGengran
    @HuangGengran 3 роки тому +33

    we chinese also had a name for this period "century of humiliation".

    • @gamereaper3144
      @gamereaper3144 3 роки тому +3

      @Ярослав Л
      What?

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 3 роки тому +3

      @Ярослав Л Every country on Earth was at one point genocidal slavers

    • @CausticSpace
      @CausticSpace 3 роки тому +5

      @Ярослав Л Uh, why do you think I hate those countries? You just assumed I'm American huh? Those are my favorite regions/countries/cultures in the world, though I love all countries, cultures, and regions as well. I'm not shallow and small-minded as you seem to be, nor do I hate a singular country. Life is too short for hatred.
      Those countries were once genocidal slavers at one point, but that does not mean I hate them. Every country has something beautiful and something terrible, and it's your choice to hate them for their mistakes or to see past their flaws. It's not even the country at fault, it's the people who control it. The Mongols under Genghis Khan were much different compared to Ogadai Khan. You clearly chose to be pessimistic.
      I doubt you even know a thing about your countries history.
      Do you even know who Perun is, or what the Tale of Bygone Years is? Do you even know the NAMES of the 12 tribes that created the Russian and Ruthenian identity? Do you even know the name of the Varangian who united the Russians?
      Do you know any of that without even looking them up?
      I don't think you do. I doubt you don't even know where to begin with Syria, Iran, and China. Especially China because of how ancient they are.
      I hope one day you grow up and find peace with yourself because you are clearly distraught and not mentally sound.

    • @michaelzhou985
      @michaelzhou985 3 роки тому +1

      @Ярослав Л good respond to your comment is those people got genocidal slaved do not exist anymore. Only the genocidal slavers survived after these years.

    • @MChagall
      @MChagall 3 роки тому +1

      @Ярослав Л are you really saying Russia, China and Iran never conquered/enslaved? Heck China is still enslaving Uyghers.

  • @luxembourgishempire2826
    @luxembourgishempire2826 3 роки тому +20

    Yes. I was looking forward to this.

  • @FifthGate
    @FifthGate 3 роки тому +17

    “Freed Korea from Chinese influence…”
    Dear god. 🙄

  • @unifieddynasty
    @unifieddynasty 3 роки тому +9

    "...freed Korea from Chinese influence."
    That's some historical revisionism right there.

  • @leonzhang1028
    @leonzhang1028 3 роки тому +16

    China will not accept anymore humiliation it knows that in order to not repeat history it needs to become strong.

    • @Snipergoat1
      @Snipergoat1 3 роки тому +1

      Nobody accepts humiliation, sometimes a nation fucks up and pratfalls. China seems to think that power and military can prevent that. It cannot. Hard power has its limits. China tried to threaten people to keep them from questioning the corona virus origin. It did not work. Now they look bad, humiliated if you will. Such are the limits of power.

    • @leonzhang1028
      @leonzhang1028 3 роки тому +1

      @@Snipergoat1 Lmao, what did you think China was doing for the past 40 or so years? Sitting around? No China's been making itself stronger every day. No, your wrong power and military can prevent it. We have a Chinese proverb, "好战必亡,忘战必危." "Those who are warmongers will die inevitably, those who forget war will be in mortal danger inevitably." The purpose of having a strong military is so that you do not have to use the military. China needs to look strong in order that foreign countries may not humiliate it once again. Your right absolute brute force will not do the trick but that's not what China is doing. It is merely showing its power so that people can know that China is back and is not afraid of enemies this time.

    • @MrAwrsomeness
      @MrAwrsomeness 3 роки тому

      @@leonzhang1028 Similar to the roman sayings "If you desire peace prepare for war" "Arms keep peace" "Aggression unchecked is aggression unleased"

    • @leonzhang1028
      @leonzhang1028 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrAwrsomeness Yeah, absolutely right but it seems the Romans forgot was the first part. "Those who are warmongers will die inevitably" And whaddaya know, the Roman Empire is gone.

    • @QWERTY-gp8fd
      @QWERTY-gp8fd 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@leonzhang1028
      usa had constant war since its existence. outlasted every major power. china is no exception. china cant even prevent mongolian armed forces from helping nato activities in afghanistan.

  • @Bolognabeef
    @Bolognabeef Рік тому +2

    So Italy asked in 1899, was refused a port by China and the same year got it anyways because of the boxer rebellion, how is that an humiliation?

  • @iamnoone348
    @iamnoone348 3 роки тому +3

    They were so scared of the power of Asia that they've tried to suppress it, but then the humiliation that these countries received is what's driving them to work harder to surpass the West.

  • @jansandman6983
    @jansandman6983 Рік тому +2

    Italy manages to get beaten in Ethiopia against soldiers armed with blow pipes with poisonous darts and sharpened bamboo sticks, so I am not surprised how they fair poorly against flying shaolins who can walk on the wires and can stand on someones head without even being noticed. 😬

  • @Justtograze
    @Justtograze 3 роки тому +10

    America present day: on second thought, I'm just gonna partition this place myself

  • @Zeelandian_Man
    @Zeelandian_Man 7 місяців тому +1

    Meanwhile in Macau: *Just gambling and chilling*

  • @hansholbein1047
    @hansholbein1047 3 роки тому +8

    I had to explain to all of my classmates what the cartoon in the thumbnail represents

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 3 роки тому +3

      and it will be hard to explain to them, how the Communists of Mao transfrom China/the sick Man of Asia, to the bighest opposent of USA in last than in ceuntry,

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 3 роки тому +2

      @Graf von Losinj lol, Mao did nothing?
      before Mao, China was weak, divided, declined:
      ua-cam.com/video/5c3jLDdDuD0/v-deo.html
      what Mao has done is to reunited China, and you suppose that this is something easy,
      Austrian-Hungry, Ottoman, Japanese, British, French... when all these Empires fall down, none of them could come back,
      under Mao, China manage to take back Xinjiang, Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria,
      China under Mao, is the only one country in the World who defeated US military advance in another country, during Korean War,

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 3 роки тому +1

      @Graf von Losinj ua-cam.com/video/mQ6q5s2ha7M/v-deo.html
      if you take a look of these statistic videos, China is number one in so many fields like food production, steel production, electric generation, electric cars production, patent and industrial designs number, length of high-speed train railway...
      without the reunification of China, you think that all this are possible,
      today, most rich countries are US vassals, meanwhile countries like Russia and Iran are not wealthy enough,
      only China could challenge US on almost every fields,
      Mas was just a son of farmer a librarian in an university, never been in military school
      and he manages to defect all his military rivals to reunite China, and you qualify his achievement "nothing", lol,

  • @MusaMansu
    @MusaMansu 3 роки тому +14

    Good video, man!😁

  • @Oujouj426
    @Oujouj426 3 роки тому +21

    Has Italy as a unified nation _ever_ done anything impressive? It's like the only thing they did was unify and the rest is shame.

    • @scarletcrusade77
      @scarletcrusade77 3 роки тому +13

      They beat the Ottomans alone & made some advancements in aeroplane & naval technology.

    • @awwee34
      @awwee34 3 роки тому +7

      They built a half-decent navy prior to WW2?
      Now that you mention it, there really isn't anything of note that pops to mind

    • @Oujouj426
      @Oujouj426 3 роки тому +5

      @@scarletcrusade77 Technology, alright, but the ottomans they beat were the post-WW1 version of them, the weakest they would ever have been.

    • @clonetrooper730
      @clonetrooper730 3 роки тому +4

      ​@@scarletcrusade77 Everyone was beating the Ottomans, that would be literally beating an old man. Modern Italy is great, but their former imperial aspirations were mad and idealistic.

    • @ntonisa6636
      @ntonisa6636 3 роки тому +5

      @@Oujouj426 no that was in 1911 (so before ww1) and they were in the process of modernizing their army and navy with German help, so I'd say comparatatively weaker than they were in the 1500s, but perhaps not necessarily weaker than they were at any point after 1683

  • @erwinlee2842
    @erwinlee2842 Рік тому +2

    The narrator tells as if China can be partitioned easily. But can it really be done? Chinese history tells their divided states then unified multiple times.

  • @bobted6266
    @bobted6266 3 роки тому +13

    When u gonna make part 2 for the Confederates in Egypt video

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому +7

      slight delays on that one - maybe in a month.

    • @scarletkingdom2359
      @scarletkingdom2359 3 роки тому

      @@JabzyJoe it’s been a month

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому

      @@scarletkingdom2359 It's been up for a while now

    • @scarletkingdom2359
      @scarletkingdom2359 3 роки тому

      @@JabzyJoe whoops my mistake 😅

  • @miguelmontenegro3520
    @miguelmontenegro3520 3 роки тому +32

    Imagine Britain posessing both India AND part of China.
    *Unlimited power* unlocked

    • @ChristianAuditore14
      @ChristianAuditore14 3 роки тому +2

      ? They would be speaking german today without the us

    • @awwee34
      @awwee34 3 роки тому +15

      @@ChristianAuditore14 Please seek professional help

    • @ChristianAuditore14
      @ChristianAuditore14 3 роки тому

      @@awwee34 lmao

    • @CutieZalbu
      @CutieZalbu 3 роки тому

      @@awwee34 he isn’t wrong if AMERICA didn’t help UK get out of WWII,Britain would’ve been a nazi vassal state ahaha

    • @LucidFL
      @LucidFL 3 роки тому +3

      @@CutieZalbu they traded a puppet state run by nazis to a puppet state run by americans lol

  • @killphrop
    @killphrop 3 роки тому +16

    Throughout your video you didn't really mention any Chinese officials or efforts preventing colonization. The video also made it seem like it was "one white dude who from the goodness of his white heart, spared China from colonization". Also, I would encourage you to do another video from the perspective of China and the efforts they made to fend off a handful of industrialized countries trying to colonize it while also dealing with all of the problems they had.

    • @LucidFL
      @LucidFL 3 роки тому +2

      Agreed, although I'm not sure why you twice mention his race...

    • @therightone5708
      @therightone5708 3 роки тому +4

      Because all the Chinese effort were essentialy futile and really did not amount to anything. Also including the Chinese angle will only highlight how backward China was at that time.

    • @pinguinocomentador9743
      @pinguinocomentador9743 3 роки тому +4

      He is a westener, he only understands the World throught his western eyes

    • @weizhang9846
      @weizhang9846 3 роки тому +4

      @@therightone5708 lol says the white guy

    • @liangzisong240
      @liangzisong240 3 роки тому

      @@therightone5708 Do you want to invade China?
      Look in the mirror.
      Is there military power

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 Рік тому +1

    4:38 free Korea, you say? More like under a new sphere of influence, but under the Japanese influence.

  • @iasonaskolyvas9983
    @iasonaskolyvas9983 3 роки тому +9

    In the 1820s there was a plan to divide greece (then still in revolution against the ottomans) into three autonomous principalities: one for britain, one for france and one for russia. If i recall correctly, the plan itself was a russin idea. It didnt work out very well cause the greeks already had their own republican system of government, were a unitary state and because things changed in such a way that newly formed greece was surely going to be completely independent. Still, the whole diplomacy of how greece became a thing is very interesting, it includes a lot of contradictory treaties and promises and stuff. A video about it would be great and it would fit very well with the theme of this one.

    • @efnoro1336
      @efnoro1336 2 роки тому +1

      Lol dude i didn't know that! O video about that would be good indeed!

  • @theLetterDoubleYou
    @theLetterDoubleYou 3 роки тому +4

    Jabzy, you are going to see a huge uptick in views when Victoria 3 comes out.

  • @huabinsitu6459
    @huabinsitu6459 3 роки тому +23

    Sorry man, but china wasn't saved by some american. The Qing Dynasty's prime minister has been playing the colonial power against each other. Unlike India, China's native population was really anti-foreign and China's modern dynastic troops were still there as they werent used in the Boxer Rebellion. Then after the Xinhai revolution, even with the unstability of China, real colonization was almost impossible at that point.

    • @acolyte1951
      @acolyte1951 3 роки тому

      But would you say that man helped reduce the chances from the western side?

    • @weizhang9846
      @weizhang9846 3 роки тому +1

      @@acolyte1951 nope. And that’s why nobody in China knows about this guy or taught the nonsense from this video.

    • @Snipergoat1
      @Snipergoat1 3 роки тому

      @@weizhang9846 So if you are not taught it, it does not exist and must be nonsense. You dwell on a few simple defeats and forget what others have done for you. You stay humiliated because you choose to be so.

  • @thehardman9379
    @thehardman9379 3 роки тому +5

    ya know, what if that guy was really the brother of jesus, not only did we kill the first born, but we killed the second also 😂

    • @YaBoiDREX
      @YaBoiDREX 3 роки тому +1

      Then he’s hella late. We were waiting 2000 years for that guy! He kinda got what was coming to him.

  • @dmenace2003
    @dmenace2003 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting that not even my ancestors ever told us all these crappie deals were forged in the background. Thank you for these info. Interesting that there use to be an American base in Baguio Philippines called John Hay. He must be the same good dude that made the difference.👍🏽

  • @dittoking8996
    @dittoking8996 3 роки тому +2

    You're not biased, I love it man it's great content and straight to the facts great job

  • @hopeforescape884
    @hopeforescape884 3 роки тому +12

    I really like the drawing of "Peoples of Europe, Guard your Dearest Goods" it looks really nice I wish modern politics involved more drawings and art pieces.

  • @musAKulture
    @musAKulture 3 роки тому +6

    and people wonder why CPC has so much power and influence. this is why.

    • @codyshi4743
      @codyshi4743 3 роки тому +2

      You’re almost right, but there’s more reason to it.

    • @liangzisong240
      @liangzisong240 3 роки тому

      Don't want to become a colony.
      The Chinese people fully support the Chinese government.

  • @OrbitalAstronaut
    @OrbitalAstronaut 3 роки тому +11

    Partition papua? Pacific mandates and colonies are like partitions.

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 роки тому +17

    Very interesting, as always!
    As for the strange partition plans, the Treaty of Radnot (1656) comes to my mind.

  • @iamgreat1234
    @iamgreat1234 3 роки тому +7

    Chinese capital during it's greatest era is Chang'an (Xian) which is landlocked central China city. This is because Chinese is land power and not maritime power.

  • @antongeorgiev1089
    @antongeorgiev1089 3 роки тому +2

    I didn't understand how one American sending letters stopped the partitioning. Video certainly doesn't show how this could have occurred. For all I heard, more likely the Boxer rebellion did that. Like proving you can't just plant yourself there and live like you own the place.

  • @michaelbell3952
    @michaelbell3952 3 роки тому +5

    Ah so thats where the Chinese got the idea to debt trap 🇩🇯 Djibouti and shi Lanka 🇱🇰

    • @liangzisong240
      @liangzisong240 3 роки тому

      The whole world is a colony of dollars.
      Don't keep staring at China

  • @ilregnodeglistorici915
    @ilregnodeglistorici915 2 роки тому +1

    Bruh i hate how pathetic my country was,I'm ashamed about the early XX century history of Italy

  • @buckrogers5331
    @buckrogers5331 3 роки тому +3

    Man, I learnt so much from your two videos: Why Qing dynasty was militarily weak and this one. Loved your presentation. Quick and to the point. Many thanks!

  • @christophmaier4397
    @christophmaier4397 3 роки тому +2

    Can u put your sources for your videos somewhere???

  • @ada4927
    @ada4927 3 роки тому +17

    I can’t think of any brilliant alternative partitions, but my best guess would be perhaps India or Australia, rather than both just being swept up by the British.

    • @outerspace7391
      @outerspace7391 3 роки тому +1

      India could be divided between Britain, France, Denmark, Portugual and Venice. All these countries used to have colonies there

    • @marpagapal3312
      @marpagapal3312 3 роки тому +1

      India had to much people and Australia was to dry.

  • @sammuelmccall56789
    @sammuelmccall56789 2 роки тому +1

    Music name please

  • @Apodeipnon
    @Apodeipnon 3 роки тому +9

    Japan "freed" Korea? Seriously?

  • @chesbaret
    @chesbaret 3 роки тому +1

    macau always seems to be chilled while fires are going on around lmao

    • @Zeelandian_Man
      @Zeelandian_Man 7 місяців тому

      It's that Luso-Tropicalism at work creating the most stable European colonial territories.

  • @nunny5070
    @nunny5070 3 роки тому +8

    Oooh, the partition of England sounds quite interesting 👀

    • @casecao8412
      @casecao8412 3 роки тому +2

      United Ireland!

    • @nunny5070
      @nunny5070 3 роки тому +1

      @@casecao8412 Northern Ireland is British, cry about it

    • @MendAmar
      @MendAmar 2 роки тому

      @@nunny5070 lol you said the partition of England sounded quite interesting but then you got triggered by words "United Ireland" when YOUR comment said "partition of England"
      Hypocrite

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 3 роки тому +1

    One of your best videos! Kudos!

  • @milanvitu3963
    @milanvitu3963 3 роки тому +4

    Why its not common to know that Athiopia defeded at first non european country Italy (a colonial power) ...but everyone know think about the russo japanese war ?
    Russia was not a western power ..It was a Orthodox Power.

  • @mrk45
    @mrk45 3 роки тому +2

    Italy: Give port NOW.
    China: Nah.
    Italy: Aww please.
    China: NO
    Italy: Meanie.

  • @darioguerra3065
    @darioguerra3065 3 роки тому +3

    The September Program as well as broader Central Power plans for partitions of Europe after the war would be interesting, as well as initial Allied plans for a new division of Europe before Russia pulled out would make for a neat video.

  • @ramenory
    @ramenory 3 роки тому +2

    They didn't want to colonize or take over China, bcoz it's so messy with too many conflicts & rebellions. They thought to let them fight amongst themselves first & wait till the dust settles but it never really happens even after WW2... 😂

  • @fanio9413
    @fanio9413 3 роки тому +9

    Why do I feel the need to play EU4?

    • @aise3722
      @aise3722 3 роки тому +8

      vicky2 u mean?

    • @srash8854
      @srash8854 3 роки тому +1

      A partitioned China will be like one of those campaigns where China is literally fractured to many kingdoms. It would be a mess like the Middle East today

    • @aise3722
      @aise3722 3 роки тому

      @@srash8854 just like ww2 china tho

    • @fanio9413
      @fanio9413 3 роки тому

      @@aise3722 why not both?

    • @aise3722
      @aise3722 3 роки тому

      @@fanio9413 tru tho

  • @djjayfortierdjjayfortier9999
    @djjayfortierdjjayfortier9999 3 роки тому +2

    I think its a mistake to say th British stopped the ottoman empire from being partitioned. They were fine with it. It is the Turks who fought to retain control of Turkey and the British just decided to leave Constantinople rather than continue fighting once the Turks had gained control of most of the country. the Ottoman lands outside of Turkey were already gone

    • @gontrandjojo9747
      @gontrandjojo9747 3 роки тому

      Typical English revisionnism. They like to claim a lot of things that they never made.

  • @berniethekiwidragon4382
    @berniethekiwidragon4382 3 роки тому +7

    If a rival nation starts being nice to you, always ask, "What's the catch?", and then decide if it is in your best interests to go along with it.

  • @mistery728
    @mistery728 2 роки тому +1

    Wait, bismarck was against german colonies, but they named the Bismarck Achipelago in Papua New Guinea after him anways?

  • @TheHiraus4
    @TheHiraus4 3 роки тому +3

    Great video 📸

  • @hazzard5292
    @hazzard5292 3 роки тому +1

    A strange partition plan was one to partition Germany after WW2.

  • @ACanette
    @ACanette 3 роки тому +14

    the spanish south america partition and further wars who left bolivia landlocked are quite weird and complicated.

    • @marpagapal3312
      @marpagapal3312 3 роки тому

      Paraguayans wish of death explain a part of those wars.
      We call the Spanish-speaking countries in South America Republiquetas.

  • @kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk824
    @kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk824 3 роки тому +2

    Medieval partition of England sounds great

  • @NeoMicy
    @NeoMicy 3 роки тому +7

    A strong Opion addicted ally!

  • @NeoPsychosis-zg2ki
    @NeoPsychosis-zg2ki 3 роки тому +1

    geez, everytime when i attempt to write some critical comments against this fragile land would somehow ended up comically deleted

  • @princekalender2154
    @princekalender2154 3 роки тому +4

    Ironic, nowadays the Kaiser would be kind of right (the fear of Asian power, not the yellow peril...)

  • @kiuk_kiks
    @kiuk_kiks 3 роки тому +7

    What about the partition of Germany? It was thought of by Morgenthau, FDRs treasury secretary.

    • @NovaSoldier
      @NovaSoldier 3 роки тому

      If i remember correctly the morgentheu plan was different from what when down in rtl

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 3 роки тому

      Morgenthau fitted the nazi stereotype of his people very well. He literally wanted to completely destroy germany and Austria and give them to france, belgium, the netherlands, Denmark, czechia and poland.

    • @kiuk_kiks
      @kiuk_kiks 3 роки тому +1

      @@mappingshaman5280
      Morgenthau was a literal Jew who hated Germans and used his political influence in America to destroy his tribal enemies.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 3 роки тому

      @@kiuk_kiks agreed, I just can't put it quite so eloquently because you know who will nuke my account for the 5th time.

    • @kiuk_kiks
      @kiuk_kiks 3 роки тому

      @@mappingshaman5280
      They permanently deleted my 7 year account last year.

  • @Marcopolo12as
    @Marcopolo12as 3 роки тому +3

    Do one on the influence of Europeans on siam and its conflicts

  • @spencersss1251
    @spencersss1251 3 роки тому

    I love this new video style

  • @InalienableLiberty
    @InalienableLiberty 3 роки тому +5

    Which American was that? The one who saved China?

    • @samueljss8713
      @samueljss8713 3 роки тому +7

      Since when did America save China? The US only caused the civil war in China with its interference.

    • @matthewbrown2452
      @matthewbrown2452 3 роки тому +6

      11:12

    • @tytube3001
      @tytube3001 3 роки тому

      Tom Cruise : The Last Samurai

    • @killphrop
      @killphrop 3 роки тому +1

      I gotta say, your username fits your attitude lol

    • @taotaohe5677
      @taotaohe5677 3 роки тому

      The one in 1945 was more appreciated.. imagine if they managed to force the peanut head to the negotiating table with mao and elections actually took place…

  • @ellanenish5999
    @ellanenish5999 18 днів тому

    Pole here, could you please make about the partition plan upon the Commonwealth of Two Nations during the Teeaty of Radnot, a plot to partition Commonwealth between Sweden, Cossacks, Branderburg, Transylvania one of Polish magnates Bogusław Radziwił and a leftover state ruled by dynasty of Transylvania, this never come to pass but would be a fun one

  • @stanisawzokiewski3308
    @stanisawzokiewski3308 3 роки тому +7

    Italian china...
    SPAGHETTI NOODLES

    • @Zen-sx5io
      @Zen-sx5io 3 роки тому

      Spaghetti Lo-Mein.

    • @danshakuimo
      @danshakuimo 3 роки тому +3

      At my Chinese church they have spaghetti with Chinese noodles. It doesn't taste right to me honestly.

  • @Big-guy1981
    @Big-guy1981 3 роки тому +4

    Japan is a European power? 😳😳

  • @codyshi4743
    @codyshi4743 3 роки тому +3

    You should do a video on what do most foreign power thought about China during the Xinhai Revolution ( A revolution that ended China’s last monarchy).

  • @pedromenchik1961
    @pedromenchik1961 3 роки тому +2

    No mention of Macau and Portugal?

    • @长毛腊肉蛋炒饭
      @长毛腊肉蛋炒饭 3 роки тому

      Creo que la Portugal es tan débil

    • @luisgoncalosilva6194
      @luisgoncalosilva6194 3 роки тому +2

      @@长毛腊肉蛋炒饭 Well Portugal was the last country to Ieave China and the first to conquer Chinese land.

    • @赵先生-u1n
      @赵先生-u1n 2 роки тому

      @@luisgoncalosilva6194 葡萄牙没有击败中国,澳门是明朝皇帝给他们的贸易中转站。是皇帝为了贸易赠送的。

  • @mfvieira89
    @mfvieira89 3 роки тому +4

    10:45 two nations
    You forgot Portuguese Macau

    • @amwill8929
      @amwill8929 3 роки тому +1

      Macau is actually a different story…

    • @mfvieira89
      @mfvieira89 3 роки тому +1

      @@amwill8929 because...?

    • @amwill8929
      @amwill8929 3 роки тому +1

      @@mfvieira89 they arrived 300years earlier and was in general peacefully agreed with the local government to rent Macau as a trading post.

    • @mfvieira89
      @mfvieira89 3 роки тому +1

      @@amwill8929 ah, yes, I know.... But he should have mentioned it at least

  • @zgegosaurusrho8205
    @zgegosaurusrho8205 3 роки тому

    As always, as interesting as it can be. Thx

  • @HistoriaenCeluloide
    @HistoriaenCeluloide 3 роки тому +4

    It's possible that they could do it if WWI hasn't taken place

    • @长毛腊肉蛋炒饭
      @长毛腊肉蛋炒饭 3 роки тому

      Pero ni tiene relación con tú,creo que ellos son posible que conquiste España,jaja

  • @billhanna2148
    @billhanna2148 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for your excellent work 👍👏👏
    I new bits and pieces of the history just before the boxer rebellion and just before the Russo-Japanese war. This is very eye opening for me 👏👏👏

  • @Liberater4589
    @Liberater4589 3 роки тому +7

    Will 3 minute history ever come back? I miss the seeing the drawings of the event being talked about

  • @jeffjefferson2676
    @jeffjefferson2676 3 роки тому +1

    This is so informative!
    Thank you!
    Greetings,
    Jeff

  • @grimmfandango832
    @grimmfandango832 3 роки тому +3

    Since when has Japan been in Europe?

    • @sealofapproval3578
      @sealofapproval3578 3 роки тому +1

      Does Imperial Japan ring a bell?

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому

      ARE YOU ARGUING WITH MY TITLES?!?! GET OUT!
      Ha but yeah, you're right. Couldn't think of a better title.

    • @grimmfandango832
      @grimmfandango832 3 роки тому

      @@sealofapproval3578 Imperial Japan imitated the west, empire wise. Still wasn't European. You wouldn't call the USA European during that era, so why Japan?

    • @grimmfandango832
      @grimmfandango832 3 роки тому

      Aaaah I still love you all. In a plutonic way ofc

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 роки тому

      @@JabzyJoe Just add "and Japan".

  • @SaltandpepperbackGorrila
    @SaltandpepperbackGorrila 3 роки тому +1

    Irish theme episode tomorrow or i riot

  • @sinoroman
    @sinoroman 3 роки тому +4

    thank you for mentioning ming dynasty

  • @skovlanpeoplesrepublic
    @skovlanpeoplesrepublic 3 роки тому +1

    Could you link a document with sources?

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому +3

      I tend to use like small sections of many sources. Anything in particular you want further info on?

  • @firaxolegirein9816
    @firaxolegirein9816 3 роки тому +5

    Could you make a video on the Ahom kingdom? It's interesting and long lasting

  • @duncanreeves225
    @duncanreeves225 3 роки тому

    Can you specify what incident you're talking about when you say that the British stopped the ottoman empire from being dismantled?

    • @JabzyJoe
      @JabzyJoe  3 роки тому +2

      There's a few. Take the Russo-Turkish War of 1878, Constantinople was about to be taken but the British sent warships into the straits and pressured the Russians to make Peace.

  • @rnanni1048
    @rnanni1048 3 роки тому +3

    GEKOLONISEERD

  • @ebonyeyesstrories
    @ebonyeyesstrories 3 роки тому

    They weren't able to demonize China's spiritual practice like they did to African spirituality that's the only reason China wasn't Concord

  • @unifieddynasty
    @unifieddynasty 3 роки тому +4

    This is a biased video. Importantly, there are no mentions of the Chinese-oriented implications of the Sino-Japanese Wars, May Fourth Movement, Xinhai Revolution, Boxer Rebellion, and Taiping Rebellion. The reality is that, while you listed contributory factors, the primary reason is that the colonial powers fundamentally lacked the ability to conquer and pacify the Qing, even before Chinese nationalism took hold.

  • @AmySavage6
    @AmySavage6 2 роки тому +2

    Considering the anti-Western sentiment, and anti non-Han sentiment in general, being very prevalent across Chinese society at the time. It would've been rather likely that no major colony in China could've been held without barbaric atrocities from the colonizer. The required military presence would've been way too costly for any European power to reasonably justify.

    • @wederMaxim
      @wederMaxim 2 роки тому +1

      Except Russia. Russia will do everything to get another port with warm water. But they were displaced by the Japanese and their internal problems.