It occurs to me too that a fire like this will help preserve your natural night vision FAR BETTER than staring into the flames of a more-traditional, blazing campfire. That's always a good thing. Great design and I have no doubt it'll work as advertised and in the morning, turning what's left over into a great cook-fire will be a piece of cake, too. Thanks for posting/producing the vid! Excellent work! :-)
Watched this a long time ago and still the best piece of advice I've ever learned since I got into bushcraft...I use this technique every single time I go camping..The best of the best. Thank you again!
Thanks for the tip on this type of fire. I have seen it in a variation where the top log hangs from one of it's original branches left for that purpose. I think this looks to be a better method. Regards, Lars
This was great! Not just showing how to make a fire last all night, but how you used a NAIL to hold it in place! I've always carried a half dozen big nails with me for years, and gotten so much crap for it! People don't know how great it is to have nails on you for simple convenience. I had to send a link to this video to a bunch of people I know and go "Aha! see!!!" Great video, and thanks for the justification too! Lol.
+shadowstalker130666 Lol, I have received a lot of flac in the comments on this video for using the nails. Next time I want to do a fire like this in the same situation, I would probably still use the nails again. Lol I have no problem justifying practicality.
Those people that complain about the nails, obviously did not watch the whole thing . The four poles hammered into the ground will work just as well . Great videos.
Wow, this is an amazing video. I feel like I've actually learned something useful tonight. I had no idea it was even possible to make a fire burn this long without constant maintenance. +1
Why do people always have to be negative ? If you don't like it make your own video and do it your way. He is just trying to help others and we thank him for that.
I like learning about survival videos. Some people are atrociously under prepared while others seem over-the-top. I try to bridge the gap, and this video was great.
I've watched hundreds of bushcraft fire videos and never seen that one. It's relatively easy and is almost as long lasting as the one where you stack up ten piece of wood on a ramp that lasts all night. This is more efficient. Good warnings on the types of wood, sparks, and putting a log between your bed and your fire too. Your knowledge is immense.
That's a great point Lonnie, especially with the super shelter. Amazing what a piece of 6 mil plastic can do. We have plenty of poplar and trembling aspen around here so I think this will be worth a try this winter.
It is my favorite fire lay for times when I need quite a bit of radiant heat but don't want to deal with frequent maintenance. Those attributes make this fire lay ideal for overnights.
Actually I had mistaken what firelay this video was about on my previous reply. The firelay I was referring to was this same firelay as this one but with TWO base logs. I call that firelay the three log long fire.
Hahaha thats old school right there when the modern method means one single nail. This guy is so cool man! Green timber is used when you dont want it to burn instantly(extra info). I learnt that from far north 😉 Busts out the zippo lighter 👍.
Funny you mentioned this method has been used in Scandinavia for a long time. Literally the first thing I thought when I watched this video was "that's how my grandfather taught me when I was a kid". Something his grandfather taught him. I'm from Sweden. Great video, keep it up man.
Saw this on youtube thursday and then used it saturday night. It worked perfectly. It was really nice not to have to crawl out of my bag & hammock very often. Thank you for sharing!
+BendyBus Song. Lol. Maybe I missed my calling in life to be a night time radio personality. My kids loved it when I would read to them Hardy Boy mysteries or Sugar Creek Gang books when they were little and it was time for bed.
@Scott Whatever Hey..... nothing wrong with bottle rocket fights as long as you are safe. The friend that got the neck burn didn't pay attention to the game.
Great video. This may be only the 3rd video I've seen on youtube that showed anything really new to me about building a fire. I also am impressed you were able to accomplish it without a firesteel . ;>)
Ive always started the fire from the bottom up,gone thru a lot of wood quickly.I never concidered having a nice log underneath.What a great idea.Gives me a whole new outlook.Thanx
Wow! I was thinking this would be stupid. Actually you show a knowledge that help pass the night by SLEEPING rather than shivering. Great video, and thank you.
Great video as always from Lonnie. The only comment I would like to make is the cutting of a dead tree. Around these parts they are referred to as "Widow makers" as many people have been killed by large limbs or even the top half of the tree breaking loose and falling on the unsuspecting tree cutter . This is especially a danger when felling with a chainsaw, because of the noise of the saw., but I am sure it could happen even using an axe or saw. Now, I am not suggesting not to fell a dead tree, I would, and it would be a great source of fuel, however just be aware of the dangers. Watch professional lumberjacks, when they are felling trees, they are always glancing up the tree making sure all is ok. Be safe, and live to enjoy another day. MSdave
Phreshayr, in the last 5 years i have watched youtube videos on bushcraft daily and you are without a doubt one of my most respected. I have also seen an all night fire video by Sigma3Survival. What they do is they build a pyramid fire but place clay or dirt in between the cracks separating the tiny logs which vastly increases the burning time. However i am all giddy thinking about when i will get to try it your way. Thanks and keep up the super class!
I've learned about this when i was a kid. In Denmark we call it "old mans fire" because even the elderly will be comfortable in the forest with this fire. But i have to admit I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for refreshing my memory. Now that I'm up north the weather is perfect for this and I'll definitely try it out. Rasmus
I watch a lot of wilderness survival/bushcraft videos on UA-cam, and this quite possibly might be the most useful one I have seen. Thanks for posting it.
It's better to pitch your tent next to a huge rock, then using smaller rocks make a rocket stove design with the huge rock part of the stove (ei the back of the chimney). This way, when you start your fire in your rock rocket stove, you will heat up the huge rock and it will continue to give off heat towards the tent even for several hours after the fire has gone out. The rocket stove design will burn the wood cleaner so you will hardly have any smoke.
rocket stoves burn too fast and you have to keep feeding them. I like to shelter and build long fire between two rocks so I get the same effect of warming the rocks and have the long unattended burn time. You just have to make sure the fire isn't so hot you cannot bear the heat in the shelter space.
SuperCyril2 Thats true Ive seen it on an overnight trip last year in fact. He thought he had a good heat rock but about 3 hours after he put it on it literally blew up and cut his face twice from rock shrapnel.
@@mz.6109 : Porous rocks can hold water in them. That can be explosive. You can also heat up rocks in a fire and with a shovel or just pushing it with a stick, move it inside your shelter, and it'll radiate heat for a good long while. Basically the sweat lodge idea, only you don't pour water on the rock to make steam.
Not trip and stumble but stumble and fall! Good information. I would add two spacers and set them as two X's on each end to keep the top log from rolling off. I think I will try this and use big stones to retain heat and help with the support too. It might also be good to incorporate a Swedish torch for more illumination even if only for a few hours. One can set those up ahead of time and use them as needed. Thanks for posting. Jesus is coming soon, be ready for that too!
Thank you Lonnie, Once again beautiful country in the introduction. Yes I've tried the fire thing and tended it most of the night. This seems like the way to go. Nice to see you back, I very much enjoyed.
The concept is great, long burning fire for sure, but prevailing winds must factor in as well. Any fire of any kind would have produced the same smoke into the tent at that time. considering the time of day you started the fire, I would have opted to spend time creating a deflector and maybe some rocks to reflect some heat as well. Nice fire!
The best part of the video is around 16:30 when you explain what you've learned for next time. I've never been out backpacking and learned nothing. Always a learning opportunity from studying nature.
Really?! I could have sworn it was Pioneer Peak, but I guess I'm wrong. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my comments. You've been so generous with your time and knowledge. God bless! - Mike
Basicly its correct, but couple of things make it better. First you can groove or slot inthe midle of logs V-shape longitudional. Air is allwaeys get free to fire. Second thing is to use much thinner sticks between logs. Lesser smoke, more heat. But its fine at last that this fire have braked thru to consciousness! ( In here, Finnland we use pine, which has it inself tar and turpentine, so no need anythig elsse for fire, just litle chips from the wood to start.)
Sorry. I Have not find good picture, but I take my own ja hopefully I can send it in here. But it is true that you must make some kind V shape in middle of the log. It Burns better, and will burns longer. Happy "rakovalkeilua" to all.
Finland is part off fennos-Skandia. And most people just say skandinavia. Like Kanada is America. It is In lapland we have this dead wood that don't fell down long time. It die and stay up. It is called kelo. It lose all its park and it is allways dry. Those trees can stay up many many years. In southern earias same tree will easyelly fell down because it is more moist here. From kelo you make rakotuli. One axe lenght for ewery sleeper if you make laavu (one side open)
I was thinking early on it was a lotta fuss to just make a fire,but I can see your point;you sure get some good mileage out of it.Nothing like a camp fire that burns all night unattended.Great clip,thanks.
This is HUGE!...I spend more time feeding my nightly camp fire then enjoying it!...next trip I am going to adapt this to fit my " Notebook" portable fire pit....thank you Soooooo much!!!😀😊👍
I wish I lived somewhere with woodland deep enough to light a fire like this ! I lit a small one when I was stuck out for a night in a graveyard and someone called the fire department !? Lol
Always looking for new/better ways to have a fire. Both indoors & out. Never seen this technique before. Thank you for sharing. Love to learn something new everyday!
One small correction to the introductory text in the description: The Scandinavian countries consist of the three countries Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Finland is not part of Scandinavia but of the larger region known as The Northern Countries or simply The North ,- ie. Denmark incl. Greenland, Norway and Sweden plus Finland, Iceland and the Faroese Islands
I am certain it is warmer than it looks. Not much flame... but that's the point...just a coal middle...which acts like a horizontal middle grade electric heater. You don't want the fire toooo hot. This one seems just about right. I can't beleive it burns like it does. It almost smolders....but is still burning.
Why are people so distraught about the one nail he used, when they should be praising his technique for a slow burning wide flame fire, and asking him how long would it last and possibly how much heat is radiating from it?
+Keith Fox most of those who are upset about the nails are those who _look_ for things to criticize. They would rather criticize the video than learn from it. I am going to make the assumption that the majority of their comments are negative comments regardless of what video and what channel they are watching
+Keith Fox Some people are great at pointing out the smallest issue they have with anything. They are not big thinkers and could not develop a technique for anything. They can only point out a perceived fault. The point of the video is how to make your fire set last all night; the video does a good job of that. Education teaches you how to think for yourself and apply things you've learned, not what to think. A large part of that is adapting learned techniques to your situation. As long as you've learned something from the video, it was a success. Notice you've learned nothing by the people who only sit at their keyboard and critique others. That should speak for itself!
Thanks for the history Pehr! Can totally appreciate that. Watched Mars Lonsen's videos of him crossing Canada solo (2 years 7 months) and he is a true Sami! Don't think I'd be able to endure it quite like him so I am thinking of this in the context of my own individual experience in the subarctic climate of Manitoba winters! The challenges come when there is cold and wind as I've been experimenting with the last couple of winters. Those -28C windchills are humbling!
The trick with the two log fire is to get an narrow slit which radiates heat horizontally quite an distance and which burns independently for hours. If e translates the Finnish name for it it is slit fire approx.
Awesome I have done longer burning fires by having the logs on end and adjusting them in and out but this is much better as there is no adjusting of logs required. great video thank you.
Excellent one. I have never tried this one but I am sure to my next time out. It looks very efficient and have enough left over to make breakfast with.
This is a great starting concept. The smoke is a problem of wasted fuel and energy but with a few tweaks we might be able to get to something better. Ty for posting :-)
Thanks for the video. You are right about building a fire for warmth when in the woods. It takes a lot of maintenance and someone gets very little sleep and when you crawl back into your bed , it is coooold.
+dalton vickers I also very much dislike getting up in the night to relieve myself out in the woods and then getting back into a cold sleeping bag. I have not figured out a very good solution to that however.
+Hamza Halal It gets down the high 20's, low 30's a lot during the winter. And the high humidity makes it even worse. When I was Living in Idaho I did not get as cold as I have felt here some times.
dalton vickers yea same in Ontario last winter every single branch was frozen when I I was in the woods, this is a great idea, much easier ways to do it.
+John L Bales Whoops. You are probably wondering what I was talking about in my former reply to your comment. I actually thought you were commenting on my latest video. My reply would have made sense then lol. Sorry
lam sorry but that was a little disappointing it would have been nice to see the end result the next morning and how well the fire held up through the night but l do think you made some good points to
SOME good points, but more bad ones. Watch it again and think about what you see and don't see him do, and the things he suggests or doesn't even mention. I honestly think this was maybe his second attempt doing this, and he should've got all the right things right before makin' a video of it, under the guise of "teaching" us something HE wasn't even good at.
Chuck Correll l see your point l was trying not to be to critical of his camp fire building attempt lve been watching a lot of videos on the rocket stove lately and l believe it to be the best form for cooking and heating ones tent
I TRY not to be too critical, but when I see somebody post a vid that others might follow and is dangerous as *#@!, I'm gonna point it out. If somebody was far out in the wilderness away from any help, and followed his way to the "T" and something got out of hand, it'd be a disaster in a LOT of ways. The vid actually should be under the heading of "Stupid videos and what NOT to do while building a campfire". IF he takes the criticisms and rethinks what's mentioned vs his actions and words in the vid and improves it, I'd say his idea had great merit, but as is, nah....it's just dangerous and I'd NEVER try an overnight fire setup like he did, EVER!
Chuck Correll my god man, calm down. it's not the end of the world but listening to you, it might as well be... i've read at least 10 conversations from you on this one video. i don't see much danger at all in what he did... firstly did you not see the snow on the ground? any vegetation covered in snow would be too wet to catch quickly (if at all. ever tried lighting a pile of wet leaves?) and even if they did, it doesnt take much effort to stomp out a few burning leaves. as for the log to block a rolling, burning log... as you can see clearly in the video, even dry seasoned logs take quite a while to catch, and I'll have to re-watch but im pretty sure he said to use a green log, which would take twice as long to catch fire. if you sleep so soundly that the sound of the log falling off the fire, or the light show of the sparks when it impacts the ground doesn't wake you up, fire is the least of your worries. as far as the heat reflector goes, yeah that's a great idea IF the conditions call for it. were you there to feel how much heat the fire was generating? do you know what the temps were outside? were you sitting in the tent? for all we know, adding a heat reflecting wall could've overheated him. and last but not least... yeah he did mention "heading home" at the end of the video, but he also says "so i don't trip and stumble" which implies that he's walking, which also implies that he isnt going very far. Anyway, im sorry for the long winded response, hope it doesn't come across too aggressive, but when i saw you make the claim that you TRY not to be too critical, after reading 10 comments to the contrary, i just had to say something.
That's a new one for me. I'll have to research and learn what timbers we have here in Australia that would be suitable for this type of fire. Thanks for making and posting this video.
Great idea.Sounds like a lot of work to find the logs for 8"-10",and chop at it.When backpacking,I don't usually carry anything heavy like a hatchet,but I supposeit would be worth carrying the extra weight.Otherwise I'm gonna give it a try.I often thought that me,and a friend would have to take turns getting up during the night to add wood to the fire to keep it going,but they would only be for cooking on or sitting around.
Fire that lasts all night?? Pffft... they have fires all the time in California that last FOR WEEKS!!!! You should film yourself starting one of THOSE!
Joke....Indian builds small fire, sits close, stays warm. White man builds big fire, keeps warm fetching wood. Just a joke, no insult meant to Native Americans or the White man.
John Hanson Men from our local area go on an annual winter campout here in South Central Alaska. Some of the biggest fires I've ever seen are built there. Many many trees are burnt during the 3-4 days or so that most folks are there. Definitely a white mans fire for sure. :o)
I've been an outdoorsman all of my life, even spending time north of the arctic circle, on the tundra with the Inuit, and I have to say, never have I had any nails in my pocket while "in the woods."
+Gregory martin I later realized that I had my little android in my pocket which I could have used as a light source. Right now as I set here typing this reply, I have three different light sources on me and do at most times.
i was in good humor. I have stayed out in the woods in the winter with very cold temperature also. But ......... we were sleeping in a car at night . In the morning the whole inside of the car was covered in ice. We slept with the windows cracked open. This i could never find enjoyable for any length of time . It separates the men from the boys. Cooking outside in the winter sucks. In the morning it was dark trying to get a fire started and cook before we went up the mountain to hunt was not easy at all. We never used gas stoves , only open wood fires. Then when we got home I had to clean the carbon covered pots. Good luck to you.
+Gregory martin ohhh yes, your trip descriptions sound very familiar to me as well. lol I have done quite a bit of winter camping here in Alaska the last 15 years or so but most of it has been in a tent heated by a woodstove. That sure is very nice to back up the backside to that stove and just soak in the warmth. It makes one feel like they are living a life of luxury compared to the trips that you have described and I also have experienced as well.
Then one time I fell into a river up in the Adirondack mountain , by the time I hiked down I was so freakin cold. Had to undress and had to warm the car up to get warm. It was not fun. It takes someone special to stay out in the wild.
Lonnie, I am new subscriber to your video's. I enjoy listening to you as much as possible. I have lived in the Great Smokey Mtns of Western NC all my life and grew up outdoors more than in- doors. Bushcraft was taught to us youngens at an early age. Some of your 'hints" or Technics you share are spot on. And, I have learned some new things from you. I just wanted to thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. Some bushcrafter's overkill and some are just full of themselves. But i do enjoy yours. Keep up the great videos. And I will keep tuning in. 🤗
Ha, me and chuck Norris use gas,chunks of plastic and tires and you had better have 15 permits if you are in Calif. or the Nazi wood police will put you in jail.
I have a hard time believing this would keep you warm in any way, shape or form... Unless, you are sitting 2 inches away from it. Nice to look at though.
Before talking about what you don't now, it's better to try it first, don't you think? I tryed several times in cold weather and it's warm enough during the night.
Great info on the fire. I haven't seen this type of fire constructed in a very long time (over 20 years). It's nice to know that the old ways are still being used. Keep up the great work and sharing the knowledge.
I liked the one when Mors says in a survival situation he would usually stay up all night, catching catnaps and using the wood from his log leanto shelter as fuel for the fire. By morning the shelter is burned up but it's light enough to find more wood or move on. BTW, I agree BushcraftBartons makes some nice bushcraft vids. Thank you for the ratios, 1 inch per hour and 3' per person. That's a good tip.
having a beer watching the coolest man on earth
I have to say cheers to that.
I wasn't going to have a beer but thanks allot now I too am have a beer watching this dude coolest dude on Earth
Haha, wow. Just before watching this. I went to my fridge and got a beer and cracked her open, then quickly checked the comments and saw yours. Cheers
lol ... I'm only a couple years late ... but I poured a beer, and then started this video. Cheers! (I can't believe 652 thumbs down! WTF?!?!)
@@gmjones2001 i am late as well just cracked a vanilla porter!
I'm 67, standing, and the bark is missing from the top of my head, so... You stay away from me! LOL! great video, Sir!
Since *dead* standing is the preferred material to use here I think it is safe to say that you and I both are still good for a while yet at least. :o)
Far North Bushcraft And Survival Just couldn't resist. You're awesome, man.
It occurs to me too that a fire like this will help preserve your natural night vision FAR BETTER than staring into the flames of a more-traditional, blazing campfire. That's always a good thing.
Great design and I have no doubt it'll work as advertised and in the morning, turning what's left over into a great cook-fire will be a piece of cake, too. Thanks for posting/producing the vid! Excellent work! :-)
Watched this a long time ago and still the best piece of advice I've ever learned since I got into bushcraft...I use this technique every single time I go camping..The best of the best. Thank you again!
Wow, I remember watching this video when it came out...now over 1 Million views...for a campfire video! Lonnie's the man! LOL
well, now its about 1.7 million.
Stop noticing bullshit bro. Get a life
@@TheReduanmahir Stop talking on peoples opininons you loser. Speak yourself or go get a life.
Thanks for the tip on this type of fire. I have seen it in a variation where the top log hangs from one of it's original branches left for that purpose. I think this looks to be a better method.
Regards, Lars
I'm happy to randomly find your comment from 7 years ago 😂 (subscriber to both you guys)
This was great! Not just showing how to make a fire last all night, but how you used a NAIL to hold it in place! I've always carried a half dozen big nails with me for years, and gotten so much crap for it! People don't know how great it is to have nails on you for simple convenience. I had to send a link to this video to a bunch of people I know and go "Aha! see!!!" Great video, and thanks for the justification too! Lol.
+shadowstalker130666 Lol, I have received a lot of flac in the comments on this video for using the nails. Next time I want to do a fire like this in the same situation, I would probably still use the nails again. Lol I have no problem justifying practicality.
Those people that complain about the nails, obviously did not watch the whole thing . The four poles hammered into the ground will work just as well . Great videos.
@@Far-North-Bushcraft-Survival : For the purist, store-bought shoes lose you all street cred.
This man has the most soothing voice ever.
Wow, this is an amazing video. I feel like I've actually learned something useful tonight. I had no idea it was even possible to make a fire burn this long without constant maintenance. +1
i809 Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video
Greets from Finland. This "rakovalkea" indeed works and you did a good job.
Thank you.
your voice is the perfect voice for this!
Right on, Dale!
Why do people always have to be negative ? If you don't like it make your own video and do it your way. He is just trying to help others and we thank him for that.
Les K I appreciate the positive feedback. Thanks for stopping by.
I like learning about survival videos. Some people are atrociously under prepared while others seem over-the-top. I try to bridge the gap, and this video was great.
I've watched hundreds of bushcraft fire videos and never seen that one. It's relatively easy and is almost as long lasting as the one where you stack up ten piece of wood on a ramp that lasts all night. This is more efficient. Good warnings on the types of wood, sparks, and putting a log between your bed and your fire too. Your knowledge is immense.
That's a great point Lonnie, especially with the super shelter. Amazing what a piece of 6 mil plastic can do. We have plenty of poplar and trembling aspen around here so I think this will be worth a try this winter.
I'm 10 years late, but that is one of the coolest fire lays I've ever seen.
It is my favorite fire lay for times when I need quite a bit of radiant heat but don't want to deal with frequent maintenance. Those attributes make this fire lay ideal for overnights.
Actually I had mistaken what firelay this video was about on my previous reply. The firelay I was referring to was this same firelay as this one but with TWO base logs. I call that firelay the three log long fire.
Hahaha thats old school right there when the modern method means one single nail. This guy is so cool man!
Green timber is used when you dont want it to burn instantly(extra info). I learnt that from far north 😉
Busts out the zippo lighter 👍.
One of the most memorable of all your videos
Greetings from Finland! Nicely burning rakovalkea!
+O-E Valentin Thank you. Glad you liked the video.
Funny you mentioned this method has been used in Scandinavia for a long time. Literally the first thing I thought when I watched this video was "that's how my grandfather taught me when I was a kid". Something his grandfather taught him. I'm from Sweden. Great video, keep it up man.
Saw this on youtube thursday and then used it saturday night. It worked perfectly. It was really nice not to have to crawl out of my bag & hammock very often. Thank you for sharing!
Zero Negativity
Lonnie your voice is perfect for reading bed time stories. Very relaxing.
+BendyBus Song. Lol. Maybe I missed my calling in life to be a night time radio personality. My kids loved it when I would read to them Hardy Boy mysteries or Sugar Creek Gang books when they were little and it was time for bed.
***** Well you could still be a night time radio personality if you really wanted. Or one of those people that record audio books.
I'm not going to show my friends this video
Because I know at least one of them will burn down their tent.
We must have the same friends
I know several, fun to be around because you never know what kind of stupid thing they're going to do next😂
@Scott Whatever Hey..... nothing wrong with bottle rocket fights as long as you are safe.
The friend that got the neck burn didn't pay attention to the game.
I AM going to show this video to my friends because they ALL will burn down their tents!
@@johnboycrawford7 But then they will want to share yours! 😆
With the intro and transitions, scenic views, and super chill voice, my mind things I'm watching Bob Ross. Just found you tonight. Nice vids, man.
In Finland it is called "rakotuli".
You might put two logs under and one on top to get the fire safer and more efficent.
Thank you for that extra information :)
Absolutely!
That three-log fire lay does look alot safer. Save you from pounding stakes too.
Suomiperkele
yeah ok,,But here in the United States we call it Aureokundish back in the day,,,NOW we call it air condition😂😂😂✌✌✌
You are awesome Lonnie. The King if bushcraft and surviving outdoors. Been watching you for years. Nothing ever gets old Buddy👍👍
Great video. This may be only the 3rd video I've seen on youtube that showed anything really new to me about building a fire. I also am impressed you were able to accomplish it without a firesteel . ;>)
Ive always started the fire from the bottom up,gone thru a lot of wood quickly.I never concidered having a nice log underneath.What a great idea.Gives me a whole new outlook.Thanx
Nice tips from far north. I liked the low tech aspect of your philosophy as well.
Wow! I was thinking this would be stupid. Actually you show a knowledge that help pass the night by SLEEPING rather than shivering. Great video, and thank you.
Cool idea. Of course, if you are really concerned about the cold, probably don't want to camp in a valley in the first place. :)
Warm air up-valley in the morning. COLD air rolling down the canyon after sundown.
Slick Lonnie. I like that you pointed out where things could have been improved. All in all a brilliant way to build a fire.
wow this dude voice is awesome kinda want him read me a story... nice video
This problem has kept me awake at night... thanx, Lonnie!
Great video as always from Lonnie.
The only comment I would like to make is the cutting of a dead tree. Around these parts they are referred to as "Widow makers" as many people have been killed by large limbs or even the top half of the tree breaking loose and falling on the unsuspecting tree cutter . This is especially a danger when felling with a chainsaw, because of the noise of the saw., but I am sure it could happen even using an axe or saw.
Now, I am not suggesting not to fell a dead tree, I would, and it would be a great source of fuel, however just be aware of the dangers. Watch professional lumberjacks, when they are felling trees, they are always glancing up the tree making sure all is ok. Be safe, and live to enjoy another day. MSdave
Phreshayr, in the last 5 years i have watched youtube videos on bushcraft daily and you are without a doubt one of my most respected. I have also seen an all night fire video by Sigma3Survival. What they do is they build a pyramid fire but place clay or dirt in between the cracks separating the tiny logs which vastly increases the burning time. However i am all giddy thinking about when i will get to try it your way. Thanks and keep up the super class!
You sir, might actually know what you are doing. Thanks for the video! Can't wait to try this.
Lonnie.. GREAT stuff... keep 'em coming... practical, common sense is needed in the world... you're certainly helping provide it. All the VERY BEST!
thats a good way to do it, we usually just put a shitload of dense wood on to make it burn all night
You ever going to do classes? Any classes outside New Zealand?
Josh James Kiwi Bushman o
I've learned about this when i was a kid. In Denmark we call it "old mans fire" because even the elderly will be comfortable in the forest with this fire. But i have to admit I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for refreshing my memory. Now that I'm up north the weather is perfect for this and I'll definitely try it out.
Rasmus
I like that hatchet/axe you are using, it looks light enough to not get tiresome, but beefy enough to do serious work.
Looks like an estwing
I watch a lot of wilderness survival/bushcraft videos on UA-cam, and this quite possibly might be the most useful one I have seen. Thanks for posting it.
It's better to pitch your tent next to a huge rock, then using smaller rocks make a rocket stove design with the huge rock part of the stove (ei the back of the chimney). This way, when you start your fire in your rock rocket stove, you will heat up the huge rock and it will continue to give off heat towards the tent even for several hours after the fire has gone out. The rocket stove design will burn the wood cleaner so you will hardly have any smoke.
Forest Guard thanks you a lot for your forest wisdom. Nature is there to be used at its best. No quarter!
rocket stoves burn too fast and you have to keep feeding them. I like to shelter and build long fire between two rocks so I get the same effect of warming the rocks and have the long unattended burn time. You just have to make sure the fire isn't so hot you cannot bear the heat in the shelter space.
Use caution heating rocks. They can an will explode.
SuperCyril2 Thats true Ive seen it on an overnight trip last year in fact. He thought he had a good heat rock but about 3 hours after he put it on it literally blew up and cut his face twice from rock shrapnel.
@@mz.6109 : Porous rocks can hold water in them. That can be explosive. You can also heat up rocks in a fire and with a shovel or just pushing it with a stick, move it inside your shelter, and it'll radiate heat for a good long while. Basically the sweat lodge idea, only you don't pour water on the rock to make steam.
Yeah we did this in the finnish army. Works great! Saved our frosty hands more than a dozen of times!
Not trip and stumble
but stumble and fall!
Good information.
I would add two spacers and set them as two X's on each end to keep the top log from rolling off.
I think I will try this and use big stones to retain heat and help with the support too.
It might also be good to incorporate a Swedish torch for more illumination even if only for a few hours. One can set those up ahead of time and use them as needed.
Thanks for posting.
Jesus is coming soon,
be ready for that too!
Bravo! That fire was a work of art.
what did it look like in the morning?
I am also curious
Thank you Lonnie,
Once again beautiful country in the introduction.
Yes I've tried the fire thing and tended it most of the night.
This seems like the way to go.
Nice to see you back, I very much enjoyed.
The concept is great, long burning fire for sure, but prevailing winds must factor in as well. Any fire of any kind would have produced the same smoke into the tent at that time. considering the time of day you started the fire, I would have opted to spend time creating a deflector and maybe some rocks to reflect some heat as well. Nice fire!
Zulu war
The best part of the video is around 16:30 when you explain what you've learned for next time. I've never been out backpacking and learned nothing. Always a learning opportunity from studying nature.
yup, it’s like a real life computer game with experience
It looks like the horizontal version of the vertical Swedish torch stove
yeah i was thinking the same thing
Really?! I could have sworn it was Pioneer Peak, but I guess I'm wrong. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my comments. You've been so generous with your time and knowledge. God bless!
- Mike
Basicly its correct, but couple of things make it better. First you can groove or slot inthe midle of logs V-shape longitudional. Air is allwaeys get free to fire. Second thing is to use much thinner sticks between logs. Lesser smoke, more heat. But its fine at last that this fire have braked thru to consciousness! ( In here, Finnland we use pine, which has it inself tar and turpentine, so no need anythig elsse for fire, just litle chips from the wood to start.)
Sorry. I Have not find good picture, but I take my own ja hopefully I can send it in here. But it is true that you must make some kind V shape in middle of the log. It Burns better, and will burns longer. Happy "rakovalkeilua" to all.
That's awesome. It takes a little more prep work, but once it's lit you don't have to jack with it all night.
Thanks for sharing.
redbeard0183 You are welcome and thank you.
Great video, I have heard of this but never seen it put to the test! I will def try this next time I'm out :) Subscribed
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This is almost like a typical Finnish long fire "rakovalkea", used probably thousand of years here in our forets for camping.
This would be a very good fire.
This channel is one of the very few whose videos I view repeatedly.
Awesome, Finland mentioned in the video and in the decsription! :) PS. Finland people = Finnish / Finns
+TheGamingSensei And the fact that Finland isn't part of Scandinavia...
Nicholas Öster Jenk yea, but many people still "keep" it as a scandinavian country
+TheGamingSensei But it has never been part of Scandinavia?
Finland is part off fennos-Skandia. And most people just say skandinavia. Like Kanada is America. It is
In lapland we have this dead wood that don't fell down long time. It die and stay up. It is called kelo. It lose all its park and it is allways dry. Those trees can stay up many many years. In southern earias same tree will easyelly fell down because it is more moist here.
From kelo you make rakotuli. One axe lenght for ewery sleeper if you make laavu (one side open)
TheGamingSensei,
Keep letting in the Muslims, and you will be called "finished".
I was thinking early on it was a lotta fuss to just make a fire,but I can see your point;you sure get some good mileage out of it.Nothing like a camp fire that burns all night unattended.Great clip,thanks.
mmmm, log sandwich
This is HUGE!...I spend more time feeding my nightly camp fire then enjoying it!...next trip I am going to adapt this to fit my " Notebook" portable fire pit....thank you Soooooo much!!!😀😊👍
I wish I lived somewhere with woodland deep enough to light a fire like this ! I lit a small one when I was stuck out for a night in a graveyard and someone called the fire department !? Lol
Always looking for new/better ways to have a fire. Both indoors & out. Never seen this technique before. Thank you for sharing. Love to learn something new everyday!
In Russian it is called "nodya" or "rakatulet"
I live in Arkhangelsk. Nearby we Karelia. Farther west Finland.
In Sweden it's called "nying"
Charlie Bus Thank you! This is very useful!
in the U.S. its called a fire! lol
In Germany its called Lagerfeuer
A very good thing to know in these cold climates, never know when you might need it. Thank you for sharing!
One small correction to the introductory text in the description: The Scandinavian countries consist of the three countries Denmark, Norway and Sweden. Finland is not part of Scandinavia but of the larger region known as The Northern Countries or simply The North ,- ie. Denmark incl. Greenland, Norway and Sweden plus Finland, Iceland and the Faroese Islands
Awesome video! There is little to none videos about Rakovalkea and this video covered the whole subject perfectly.
Nice job, but not much heat for sleeping
I am certain it is warmer than it looks. Not much flame... but that's the point...just a coal middle...which acts like a horizontal middle grade electric heater. You don't want the fire toooo hot. This one seems just about right. I can't beleive it burns like it does. It almost smolders....but is still burning.
This type of loggfire is VERY HOT!! Try it and you'l notice!
I'm with Charlie on this one, that coal bed has got to be radiating a ton of heat!
boring
In addition to that, it's not for cooking.
Also American made. All of their products are great. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Lonnie.
Why are people so distraught about the one nail he used, when they should be praising his technique for a slow burning wide flame fire, and asking him how long would it last and possibly how much heat is radiating from it?
+Keith Fox most of those who are upset about the nails are those who _look_ for things to criticize. They would rather criticize the video than learn from it. I am going to make the assumption that the majority of their comments are negative comments regardless of what video and what channel they are watching
+Keith Fox
Some people are great at pointing out the smallest issue they have with anything. They are not big thinkers and could not develop a technique for anything. They can only point out a perceived fault.
The point of the video is how to make your fire set last all night; the video does a good job of that. Education teaches you how to think for yourself and apply things you've learned, not what to think. A large part of that is adapting learned techniques to your situation.
As long as you've learned something from the video, it was a success. Notice you've learned nothing by the people who only sit at their keyboard and critique others. That should speak for itself!
+Far North Bushcraft And Survival
It doesn't matter how hard you work to make great video, there will always be hater indeed.
+Keith Fox i think, mostly, because people wont typically carry/find nails in a backwoods, survival situation.
Did the nails survive this? ;) You are obliged to use them several times to meet the critics.
Thanks for the history Pehr! Can totally appreciate that. Watched Mars Lonsen's videos of him crossing Canada solo (2 years 7 months) and he is a true Sami! Don't think I'd be able to endure it quite like him so I am thinking of this in the context of my own individual experience in the subarctic climate of Manitoba winters! The challenges come when there is cold and wind as I've been experimenting with the last couple of winters. Those -28C windchills are humbling!
I make this type of fire out of 3 logs. Two under and one on top. Much less chance that the top log is falling down.
Genius! Seems like it would burn longer too, with just a little extra work.
BAN1102 The three log fire appears to be quite a bit more popular based on the comments here.
The trick with the two log fire is to get an narrow slit which radiates heat horizontally quite an distance and which burns independently for hours. If e translates the Finnish name for it it is slit fire approx.
EattinThurs61
Thanks. I have also heard it translated as "gap fire".
Awesome I have done longer burning fires by having the logs on end and adjusting them in and out but this is much better as there is no adjusting of logs required. great video thank you.
coroner: "His body was plenty warm......died from smoke inhalation....."
lmao
Excellent one. I have never tried this one but I am sure to my next time out. It looks very efficient and have enough left over to make breakfast with.
but...we never learned how long it lasted!
This is a great starting concept. The smoke is a problem of wasted fuel and energy but with a few tweaks we might be able to get to something better. Ty for posting :-)
Do you soak your logs in wood?
***** no typo. I've always heard to soak your logs in wood for the best burn
Sloth Mc logs are wood you ding dong! Lol!
Nicole Bassett lmao
Yup, always soak your logs in wood if you can get it! : p
It's a joke from Imgur..
Thanks for the video. You are right about building a fire for warmth when in the woods. It takes a lot of maintenance and someone gets very little sleep and when you crawl back into your bed , it is coooold.
+dalton vickers I also very much dislike getting up in the night to relieve myself out in the woods and then getting back into a cold sleeping bag. I have not figured out a very good solution to that however.
+dalton vickers where you sleep should always be warm, why cold?
+Hamza Halal It gets down the high 20's, low 30's a lot during the winter. And the high humidity makes it even worse. When I was Living in Idaho I did not get as cold as I have felt here some times.
dalton vickers yea same in Ontario last winter every single branch was frozen when I I was in the woods, this is a great idea, much easier ways to do it.
Be my Dad please
+Smile Always lol exactly
lol
...eh, maybe Scoutmaster?
Wo. You made the flattening process look easy. Cut cut. Whack whack. Done. I'm impressed and it is only four minutes in.
+John L Bales Well I did cut some of the "peening" process out of the video but all in all it was accomplished in a relatively short time.
+John L Bales Whoops. You are probably wondering what I was talking about in my former reply to your comment. I actually thought you were commenting on my latest video. My reply would have made sense then lol. Sorry
lam sorry but that was a little disappointing it would have been nice to see the end result the next morning and how well the fire held up through the night but l do think you made some good points to
SOME good points, but more bad ones. Watch it again and think about what you see and don't see him do, and the things he suggests or doesn't even mention. I honestly think this was maybe his second attempt doing this, and he should've got all the right things right before makin' a video of it, under the guise of "teaching" us something HE wasn't even good at.
Chuck Correll l see your point l was trying not to be to critical of his camp fire building attempt lve been watching a lot of videos on the rocket stove lately and l believe it to be the best form for cooking and heating ones tent
I TRY not to be too critical, but when I see somebody post a vid that others might follow and is dangerous as *#@!, I'm gonna point it out. If somebody was far out in the wilderness away from any help, and followed his way to the "T" and something got out of hand, it'd be a disaster in a LOT of ways. The vid actually should be under the heading of "Stupid videos and what NOT to do while building a campfire". IF he takes the criticisms and rethinks what's mentioned vs his actions and words in the vid and improves it, I'd say his idea had great merit, but as is, nah....it's just dangerous and I'd NEVER try an overnight fire setup like he did, EVER!
Chuck Correll
my god man, calm down. it's not the end of the world but listening to you, it might as well be... i've read at least 10 conversations from you on this one video. i don't see much danger at all in what he did... firstly did you not see the snow on the ground? any vegetation covered in snow would be too wet to catch quickly (if at all. ever tried lighting a pile of wet leaves?) and even if they did, it doesnt take much effort to stomp out a few burning leaves. as for the log to block a rolling, burning log... as you can see clearly in the video, even dry seasoned logs take quite a while to catch, and I'll have to re-watch but im pretty sure he said to use a green log, which would take twice as long to catch fire. if you sleep so soundly that the sound of the log falling off the fire, or the light show of the sparks when it impacts the ground doesn't wake you up, fire is the least of your worries. as far as the heat reflector goes, yeah that's a great idea IF the conditions call for it. were you there to feel how much heat the fire was generating? do you know what the temps were outside? were you sitting in the tent? for all we know, adding a heat reflecting wall could've overheated him. and last but not least... yeah he did mention "heading home" at the end of the video, but he also says "so i don't trip and stumble" which implies that he's walking, which also implies that he isnt going very far.
Anyway, im sorry for the long winded response, hope it doesn't come across too aggressive, but when i saw you make the claim that you TRY not to be too critical, after reading 10 comments to the contrary, i just had to say something.
Smokey420Greenleaf I was about to write the same.
That's a new one for me. I'll have to research and learn what timbers we have here in Australia that would be suitable for this type of fire. Thanks for making and posting this video.
Did you leave that fire unattended ?
Great idea.Sounds like a lot of work to find the logs for 8"-10",and chop at it.When backpacking,I don't usually carry anything heavy like a hatchet,but I supposeit would be worth carrying the extra weight.Otherwise I'm gonna give it a try.I often thought that me,and a friend would have to take turns getting up during the night to add wood to the fire to keep it going,but they would only be for cooking on or sitting around.
Fire that lasts all night?? Pffft... they have fires all the time in California that last FOR WEEKS!!!! You should film yourself starting one of THOSE!
Hypercube9 omg lol
😂
Haha that's f ing funny!!
Absolute quality
Thanks for sharing this method Lonnie, much appreciated, Ken
Joke....Indian builds small fire, sits close, stays warm. White man builds big fire, keeps warm fetching wood. Just a joke, no insult meant to Native Americans or the White man.
John Hanson Men from our local area go on an annual winter campout here in South Central Alaska. Some of the biggest fires I've ever seen are built there. Many many trees are burnt during the 3-4 days or so that most folks are there. Definitely a white mans fire for sure. :o)
hahaha good one
just dont call us indians
John Hanson I know someone named John Hanson....
Momo, The Indians here call themselves Indians. They even have it on their buildings. Puyallup Tribe of Indians.
Thanks, Lonnie! Will try it on my next camping trip. At least I won't have to wake up every hour while I sleep, feeding my fire. Good work!
Clet Rodriguez You are welcome. Good luck on your campout.
You too.
Can't wait.
Everyone just happens to have an axe, a hatchet, a zippo, and nails with them all the time
Going into the outdoors yes, more than likely. I doubt you'll fall asleep on your sofa and wake up in the wilds.
Nice video guys, keep it up, subbed
I've been an outdoorsman all of my life, even spending time north of the arctic circle, on the tundra with the Inuit, and I have to say, never have I had any nails in my pocket while "in the woods."
Atouk I told you in the video what you can do if you dont want to use nails. Did you not watch that far or did you choose to ignore that fact.
actually yes i usually carry all those items, sometimes a machette instead of an axe.. i guess its a nordic thing.
norseman bushcrafting Or people with Survival in mind! :)
Hi Lonnie,
Thanks so much for making this informative video, I have never heard of any technique like this but it's very ingenious. Have a great day!
Go home due to it still being light ?????? It's pitch black !!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL
+Gregory martin I later realized that I had my little android in my pocket which I could have used as a light source. Right now as I set here typing this reply, I have three different light sources on me and do at most times.
i was in good humor.
I have stayed out in the woods in the winter with very cold temperature also. But ......... we were sleeping in a car at night . In the morning the whole inside of the car was covered in ice. We slept with the windows cracked open. This i could never find enjoyable for any length of time . It separates the men from the boys. Cooking outside in the winter sucks. In the morning it was dark trying to get a fire started and cook before we went up the mountain to hunt was not easy at all. We never used gas stoves , only open wood fires. Then when we got home I had to clean the carbon covered pots.
Good luck to you.
+Gregory martin ohhh yes, your trip descriptions sound very familiar to me as well. lol I have done quite a bit of winter camping here in Alaska the last 15 years or so but most of it has been in a tent heated by a woodstove. That sure is very nice to back up the backside to that stove and just soak in the warmth. It makes one feel like they are living a life of luxury compared to the trips that you have described and I also have experienced as well.
Then one time I fell into a river up in the Adirondack mountain , by the time I hiked down I was so freakin cold. Had to undress and had to warm the car up to get warm. It was not fun. It takes someone special to stay out in the wild.
BRUH he made a wood burger
Lonnie, I am new subscriber to your video's. I enjoy listening to you as much as possible. I have lived in the Great Smokey Mtns of Western NC all my life and grew up outdoors more than in- doors. Bushcraft was taught to us youngens at an early age. Some of your 'hints" or Technics you share are spot on. And, I have learned some new things from you. I just wanted to thank you for the time and effort you put into your videos. Some bushcrafter's overkill and some are just full of themselves. But i do enjoy yours. Keep up the great videos. And I will keep tuning
in. 🤗
Ha, me and chuck Norris use gas,chunks of plastic and tires and you had better have 15 permits if you are in Calif. or the Nazi wood police will put you in jail.
It is "Chuck Norris and I" and yes I am a Grammar Nazi.
+Alfredo Alvarez Good for you Alfredo, I am also a grammar Nazi!
+Alfredo Alvarez Then you should've known there is a coma after yes. (:
Thanks for recording and posting this, it was very serene.
I have a hard time believing this would keep you warm in any way, shape or form... Unless, you are sitting 2 inches away from it. Nice to look at though.
Before talking about what you don't now, it's better to try it first, don't you think?
I tryed several times in cold weather and it's warm enough during the night.
Luis Fernandes Calm down Luis. It's an opinion.
Ok, sorry Drew!
It's not a strong fire, but the log send the heat in that direction. And it last for a long time.
One good footstep away is the rule of thumb in cold temps, this comes from Mors Kochanski.... tend to believe him.
Love the spontaneity of your vids.
I added a bow saw to my kit just to try this. Really enjoy your videos.
Great info on the fire. I haven't seen this type of fire constructed in a very long time (over 20 years). It's nice to know that the old ways are still being used. Keep up the great work and sharing the knowledge.
Great idea, I am going to give it a go, thank you for posting.
Ashley Hill Thank you. Good luck and enjoy
I liked the one when Mors says in a survival situation he would usually stay up all night, catching catnaps and using the wood from his log leanto shelter as fuel for the fire. By morning the shelter is burned up but it's light enough to find more wood or move on.
BTW, I agree BushcraftBartons makes some nice bushcraft vids.
Thank you for the ratios, 1 inch per hour and 3' per person. That's a good tip.