Why did some Democrats survive in Trump states?

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  • @Msloan98
    @Msloan98  7 днів тому +39

    My most liked comment ever was a joke about making a deep dive video about a trading card game. Let me know here if there are any non political topics you guys wanna see me look into or discuss! 6:43

    • @heyheyalaska
      @heyheyalaska 7 днів тому +7

      I'd love to see some more diverse content from you! Can't wait to see a 4 hour long video essay on the parallels of the 2024 elections and Pokemon TCGs current meta

    • @heberofcastamere341
      @heberofcastamere341 7 днів тому +1

      On the side note, there is hilarious channel, which uses AI, to make presidential character if they were magic players.

    • @blazais
      @blazais 7 днів тому +1

      Give me videos for magic the gathering 😭😭😭

    • @RemiUllmann
      @RemiUllmann 7 днів тому +1

      Nice Job with your political reporting also American Politics is shifting due to the change that people have against the Establishment and people want a better economy, a stable and secured border and better Global Stability.

  • @f-86zoomer37
    @f-86zoomer37 7 днів тому +7

    Absolutely wild how Gallego won in Arizona, when it was the least close battleground state in terms of margin. I could see how Baldwin and Slotkin could win. But really surprising how Bob Casey, the man, is on track to lose.

  • @small.clover
    @small.clover 7 днів тому +10

    I love the perfect timing of pulling out the Pokemon cards

    • @Msloan98
      @Msloan98  7 днів тому +6

      “You see while you’ve been focused on the nature of split ticket voting in 2024, I’ve put my Blastoise into play. This game is over.”

  • @joshuacampbell1625
    @joshuacampbell1625 7 днів тому +23

    Personally, I think split ticket voting in the US atm requires quite a significant degree of cognitive dissonance. The two parties no longer have economic or social policies that are similar enough to each other to make split tickets logical.

    • @thelreadtheunready4051
      @thelreadtheunready4051 7 днів тому +4

      That is untrue. It's about weighing different priorities. Your state's specific needs might be different from national needs. It depends on what you think are the most pressing issues. You could think abortion is very important but the president only has so much power here - Roe v. Wade's overturn gave it back to the states and that is where you can decide it. Missouri voting heavily for Trump, but also voting to protect abortion. That is not contradictory. Immigration, Foreign Policy, Economy - those are things where the President makes genuine impact so you might vote for one candidate there, but maybe on the state level there are other issues that the other party deals better with so you vote for them. Makes perfect sense.

    • @joshuacampbell1625
      @joshuacampbell1625 7 днів тому +8

      The Dems and GOP platforms are so different at this point that the election of one is completely to the detriment of the other.
      If you care enough about abortion or the economy to vote blue down ballot, but then also voted for Trump, who takes credit for the revocation of Roe vs Wade, and plans to enact a tariff regime that will absolutely be felt negatively by the work class, you've essentially vetoed at least one of those votes, because they are incompatible with eachother.

    • @thelreadtheunready4051
      @thelreadtheunready4051 7 днів тому +4

      @@joshuacampbell1625 But maybe you are happy with Trump's tariff policies but unhappy with states passing abortion bans. Keep in mind: Revoking Roe v Wade did not ban abortion, it just brought the decision back to state legislatures. You can be Republican and still think abortion should be legal

    • @rjScubaSki
      @rjScubaSki 7 днів тому +1

      Some people galaxy brain themselves into thinking they are voting for deadlock

    • @IowanMatthew683
      @IowanMatthew683 7 днів тому

      The deterioration of basic educational and critical thinking skills is this country is absolutely appalling but unfortunately quite evident in the past few election cycles alone. COVID and perpetual social media exposure have really dealt many Americans psychological and cognitive damage that will never be fully reversed or remedied.

  • @MuiltiLightRider
    @MuiltiLightRider 7 днів тому +14

    I think we're all overthinking this. Remember in 2012 when Romney lost and the Republican autopsy said that they should open up the party and be nicer to immigrants and non-whites? Remember when Trump won in 2016 and Dems thought they needed to refocus on the Rust Belt to win again? Remember when Trump lost in 2020 and instigated an insurrection and tried to steal the election and everyone said he was done politically? And then remember when the Red Wave of 2022 never materialized and everyone again said that Trumpism was officially done?
    Harris just lost because voters wanted to boot out the party in power during the inflationary spike. Unless some universally loved celebrity or general ran in 2024 for the Dems, they would've still lost. This talk about trying to soul-search and change the party's messaging or platform is premature and probably wrong

    • @wesleycanada3675
      @wesleycanada3675 7 днів тому +5

      or the democrats have run neo libral campaigns 3 times in a row against a populist canadite and the only time it did work was during a global pandemic

    • @jamesbaxter222
      @jamesbaxter222 7 днів тому +4

      @@wesleycanada3675No. all three times the incumbent party lost regardless of message.

    • @IowanMatthew683
      @IowanMatthew683 7 днів тому +1

      I think Democrats like myself and the DNC in general severely misinterpreted the implications of the 2022 midterm elections, thinking that the precarious state of legal abortion post-Dobbs could galvanize voters and temporarily convince them to ignore or downplay issues such as inflation, border concerns, and foreign affairs. Given the bad economic press plaguing Biden for most of his presidency a la Jimmy Carter, I think Democrats saw abortion as perhaps their only saving grace against a resurgent Trump campaign. Problem is though that the Democrats gambled their entire re-election bid in 2024 on literally only one issue, hoping, in vain, that female voters would turn out in record numbers to prevent a Trump redux, which never materialized. Given the rather unfortunate chain of events plaguing the Biden administration in terms of inflation, foreign affairs, and border issues, I honestly don't think a Democrat would have been elected this year, regardless.

    • @f-86zoomer37
      @f-86zoomer37 7 днів тому

      @@jamesbaxter222no. In 2022, neoliberal Dems over performed. Two reasons for this: Dobbs just happened, and also the electorate during midterms skew heavily towards college educated, who have voted more democratic than in years past.

  • @Rudenbehr
    @Rudenbehr 7 днів тому +9

    The democrats survived in the same way a bloody limping giraffe hides in a lake from Lions.

  • @hylandhistories4140
    @hylandhistories4140 7 днів тому +15

    I agree with you on specific trump loyalty. I crunched the math yesterday.
    In the rust belt Republicans lost 4% of their vote down ballot, democrats consistently lost less than 1%

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 7 днів тому

      How does your math work? How is that possible when pretty much everywhere shifted red by 5 to 10 points? (Heck 12 point shift in California)

    • @kevinthomson5965
      @kevinthomson5965 7 днів тому

      @@no_name4796 The "shift" isn't exactly present; millions of people sat out the election, which spikes the numbers in favor of the winner. If you have 100 votes and 80 are Democrat, that's 80%, but if you now have only 50 votes with the same level of Republicans (assuming 20) that drops to 60% for Democrats. The 12-point shift in California confirms this, where as of now only about 11 million votes have been cast and counted; 2020 saw Biden alone get 11 million votes and Trump 6. 6 million votes in California just vanished.

    • @hylandhistories4140
      @hylandhistories4140 7 днів тому

      @no_name4796
      Senate vote/president vote = % difference
      Do that for total and each party in the swing states.

    • @IowanMatthew683
      @IowanMatthew683 7 днів тому

      Republicans will be politically impotent once Trump disappears into the ether. Trump's cult of personality only applies to himself and no one else, not even to other Republican politicians. Republicans need Trump more than Trump needs the Republican Party, to be honest. Once he disappears, it's only a matter of time before erstwhile Trump voters abandon the Republican Party or abstain from future elections. The momentum will greatly dissipate and Republican politicians will severely struggle to redefine themselves electorally.

  • @serenaschmidt2410
    @serenaschmidt2410 7 днів тому +5

    Teach me the game please, my son loves it & it's all greek to me. But I'm mainly here for your political takes 😊

  • @Jack-496
    @Jack-496 7 днів тому +6

    Just wanna say that I came here for the political commentary but I’m staying here for you. I think some non-political content once in a while would be great.

  • @NicklasZandeVGCP2001
    @NicklasZandeVGCP2001 2 дні тому

    I think the answer is staring at us all in the face. And that is populism. Gallego outperformed Harris the most, and from what I heard, he ran a populist oriented campaign, also, Baldwin, she's a populist, and she won Wisconsin. Even Slotkin, she may be a moderate, she at least made herself look like a populist. I think the Democrats need to move a much more populist direction in order to beat Trump's likely successor, JD Vance, in the next election. I'm not saying the DEMs should go in a radical Corbynite direction, that would be electorally suicidal. No, what I mean is, they shouldn't run away on issues like raising the minimum wage, taxing the rich, expanding Medicare and Medicaid to those uninsured by it, expanding Obamacare by creating a public healthcare option, supporting a union's right to organize and go on strike, etc. Saying "Trump's a scab" is a good start, but the DEMs need to go further, by going after billionaires in general, not just Elon Musk, but also Bob Iger, Dave Zazlav, Sam Walton, Jeff Bezos, etc. And even "influencers" like the Kardashians, the Paul Brothers, Tana Mongeau, Mr. Beast, and many others, to showcase how Trump's giving tax breaks to rich people, while the Democrats are making it so they have to pay their fair share, and allow their employees to have living wages. And if the GOP responds with "What about AI taking over?", just respond with "Then we'll pass laws banning them from taking anyone's job, and only allow them to be used as tools to help real hard working Americans". I know this sounds like I'm going for too long, but, my point is Democrats need to look at figures like William Jennings Bryan, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Lyndon B. Johnson, and understand how they were able to connect to everyday voters, and address their fiscal concerns effectively.

  • @jakeohare913
    @jakeohare913 7 днів тому +1

    I was looking for a take on this. Great insight

  • @beckybenton9402
    @beckybenton9402 7 днів тому +8

    This isn’t pokemans

    • @Msloan98
      @Msloan98  7 днів тому +4

      Did you finish the video? 6:43

    • @beckybenton9402
      @beckybenton9402 7 днів тому +1

      I can’t care about the 11 videos I asked for digimon lore

  • @zacharynewton4482
    @zacharynewton4482 7 днів тому +1

    MI resident- Slotkin serves on house ag committee running for seat held by the chair of the Democrat chairing senate ag committee- probably has more connections with rural voters than Rogers that would’ve gone for Trump

  • @SomeGuyNamedTodd
    @SomeGuyNamedTodd 7 днів тому +14

    If Trump weren't on the ballot and it was a generic republican (Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Tim Scot, etc.) do you think the presidential outcome would have the same? I wondered this when you spoke of the voters who came out to vote for Trump only, potentially costing the senate races in swing states.

    • @ineednochannelyoutube2651
      @ineednochannelyoutube2651 7 днів тому +8

      Haley would have lost because this election does prove we need something more populist to win, but I think even if you subtract the Trump only voters, Ron DeSantis still would have won because if you add up the states of North Carolina, Georgia, and Pennsylvania then that is a win on it's own, but it becomes an extremely narrow victory.

    • @thesenate1844
      @thesenate1844 7 днів тому +7

      Trump has a way of driving out people who vote only for him, in Midterms the Republican party does poorly as many of the election voters sit it out. The promised Red Wave of 2022 amounted to a splash

  • @catface101
    @catface101 7 днів тому +4

    I'll trade my Jungle Gloom for your Base Set Venusaur

  • @chessacousins2067
    @chessacousins2067 7 днів тому +11

    Btw what do you think the democrats are going to takeaway from this?

    • @joshuacampbell1625
      @joshuacampbell1625 7 днів тому +15

      Probably the wrong ones.

    • @theweirdclasher3955
      @theweirdclasher3955 7 днів тому +4

      They'll just say "Voters are racist blah blah blah they didnt vote for kamala because shes a black woman" when in reality they didn't vote for Kamala because Kamala sucked as candidate not because of her gender or identity but because we knew nothing about her and what we knew about her was usually terrible

    • @Steven-T
      @Steven-T 7 днів тому +9

      ​@@joshuacampbell1625unfortunately, this...
      "Lean into left-wing populist messaging like Bernie did. Run actual messages, policies, and candidates that your leftist base is enticed by. DON'T PANDER TO THE RIGHT AND BECOME 'DIET REPUBLICANS". Listen to the general party members and donors instead of the consultants."
      ".... So you're saying we should adopt anti-trans messaging to attract right leaning people?"

    • @JusufBideovic
      @JusufBideovic 7 днів тому +2

      ​@Steven-T It would be a betrayal of our principles but it would work.

    • @Steven-T
      @Steven-T 7 днів тому +1

      @@chessacousins2067 better question is: what *SHOULD" be the message that's taken away from this?

  • @small.clover
    @small.clover 7 днів тому +1

    Yeah in general it seems there were a lot more partial tickets than split tickets

  • @d.g4466
    @d.g4466 7 днів тому

    Ptcg hype!!!!!

  • @philiphockenbury6563
    @philiphockenbury6563 7 днів тому +2

    Please tell me about the Pokémon TCG?

  • @NotShowingOff
    @NotShowingOff 7 днів тому +1

    I’m more cynical. The lines are long. Nobody wants to be there. So you color in the box of the candidate you like and leave.