Speedshift MCT unit from Mercedes-AMG, is a multi-clutch automatic gearbox. Instead of a torque converter, like conventional automatics, it possesses a “clutch pack,” which includes multiple clutches placed together and controlled separately. It is easily differentiated from dual-clutch automatics because it has a single input shaft
Nice reviews, thanks very much. I appreciate your insights and commentary. Agree with almost all that you said. I just ordered the AMG E63s wagon over the Porsche. The M5 was not even a contender due to the lack of cargo space. I did consider the X5M and found the driving safety tech to be lacking (I drive a lot in traffic in Boston and get a lot of piece of mind with Distronic and lane change). Also there is no comparison on performance between the X5M and the AMG. I traded my 2017 R8 v10+ for the wagon, and got cash back. I had the R8 plus an X5 diesel for long haul/hockeybag moving efforts. When I get rid of the X5 35d I'll decide what sporty thing to replace the R8 with. The problem with the R8 was the statement it made. I work in private equity and we are always pushing companies to manage costs down and be lean - drive in with that car and you are not making the right impression let's just say. As a result I drove it less than 2,000 miles in 2 years. Won't lose sleep over that space in the garage. When I chip the AMG it will be pretty close to the R8 in performance. I had an RS7 before the R8, incidentally. Loved that car. Chipped I was doing 0-60 in 3.3 with amazing sounds coming into the cabin and all of tech you could imaging. Audi gets interiors right. HOWEVER the best car I ever owned for the mix of driver passion and stealth - the E39 M5. Still the standard by which I measure all others, and I have had or driven almost all of them. Can't wait to compare this to that... I know different but the RWD mode is going be interesting. The Porsche Panamera Turbo is amazing, I drove it but it's a bit too expensive in comparison and still a bit of a problem "impression wise". The Porsche is hands down a better drivers car. I had a 911 Turbo S and came to respect Porsche's single minded focus on excellence in driving performance. The telepathic feel you get when you drive. In summary it's the stealth mode, performance, and practicality that got me to the AMG - I know this is my own personal thing but that's what I LOVE about the Mercedes. I will debadge it to further avoid the problems with "making the wrong impression". And that's what I LOVE about this vehicle. 19 out of 20 people will NEVER KNOW. Oh and get this - wife always riding me to get rid of the R8 - "you never drive it" - she won't even get in it because it's too low, etc. So when I told her I was trading it she sort of turned white expecting something even more extreme. When I told her I was getting a Mercedes wagon and showed her a picture she lit up like a Christmas Tree. And that's the icing on the cake.... (At least until she hears it)
Nice review, I have one [Selenite Grey Magno] and traded in my 991 Turbo S for it. It really is that good and add a tune [720hp] along with adjustable front upper A arms for proper camber when lowered to dial in the handling, you have a canyon monster.....just sayin
What an amazing sounding engine. Sadly used AMG wagons just like used CTS-V wagons annoyingly hold their value, must all the car magazine journalists buying them.
Yes, most AMGs drop like stones except - ahem - for this one:( Maybe one day I will tell you guys the story of how I talked my neighbor out of leasing and got him to BUY a used CTS-V Wagon with a stick . . . which he already has a built in profit on. I don't like him:)
If I had the money id get it in diamond white metallic with the 20" matt black forged wheels, Nut brown Napa leather interior paired with natural grain black ash wood trim, the AMG advanced lighting package, AMG carbon fiber package, rear decklid badge delete, AMG Napa leather performance steering wheel, AMG performance seats, sun protection package, acoustic comfort package, soft close doors and the AMG performance exhaust for 121,540
Daniel Bell Larsen Wrong transmission. This car has a 9 speed MCT. Which is an automatic. www.autoevolution.com/news/mercedes-amg-s-mct-transmission-explained-in-layman-s-terms-112461.html
I choose the Mercedes AMG E 63s 4Matic+ Wagon, with Night package and a white paint with black wheels, because I think in this way it looks sporty. OR, I also like it in the black in the video and have standard chrome trims and aluminum wheels to give it a flavour of elegance. Although the Porsche Panamera Turbo is also a stunning wagon, I think there is no reason for anyone to choose that over the E 63. Since it is slower and more expensive. Thank you!
You can get that red from the AMG GT on this car. And all that black trim and carbon are optional. It comes standard with chrome, and can look almost like an E400 with the right choices.
I was looking at this wagon vs. B7 Alpina. Going with wagon but worry about low profile tires. Pot holes and irregular road surface are an occasional problem. I see a matte finish grey wagon near me, great color.
BTW, totally agree on the perfect garage. And because that's the perfect garage, is why I would pick the Merc over the Panamera. Would love to have one of each brand.
I like the M5. I LOVE the E63s Wagon. The practicality of the wagon combined with the fun factor is mind blowing. I would take it over the Panamera as well and have enough money left for a Performance Pack2 Mustang!
Just curious.... You test all these amazing vehicles (with a Toyota Avalon tossed in to erase all the smiles) but what is your daily driver? What do you own that you drive to get to these amazing vehicles you test and keep your fans giggling? Keep up the good work!
That answer is liberally sprinkled in most of my episodes - however, had to stop because viewers got sick of hearing about it. That said, now more into airplanes . . . Check it out on Instagram: @MotoManTV
@MotoManTV Would you rather have this AMG E63 S wagon or the Volvo V90? I know they don't compete on power and performance, but on looks, comfort, daily life.
I love the ridiculousness of this wagon. I love the all black, I would tint as much as is allowed and badge delete. Right now I see a 2012 CTS-V wagon with a manual transmission on sale in Burbank for $39,000. Yes it isn't nearly as high tech as the new beasts from Germany, and yes extra money will need to be put in for repairs and upkeep. But it's a high horsepower manual wagon for a whole lot less and I bet if kept in great condition it will start to appreciate very soon.
I like both very much!! But thinking I'd take the Mercedes and put the extra 45-50 in the bank! Love the Porsche but.... Hard call for sure but love the cayenne too! Maybe the new 2019 S version instead. Totally different beast but nice siting up higher and can you really fully use 600 horse power!!
This is a tough choice! I have to pick one this week! With 2 kids and luggage, the Merc should be a no brainer but the Merc has a really harsh ride compared to the M5 and that has really made it tough!
My 2014 E63 wagon has the shifter on the center console - I like the new features on the 2018, but not loving the shifter. We'll see which year I upgrade to and when. This is a GREAT CAR!
E63 S, easy choice when compared to the panamera E-sport thingy. Mine built came to 116,620, Blue, brown int, AMG Premium pkg (lots of safety stuff), and AMG exhaust + 3yr MX. People have to realize, you don't need to get silly in the options checklist part of the build and just be sensible, or as sensible a $116k, 603hp wagon can be. $10k over base isn't horrible and is 10% of the car, so right in light with other options on lesser cars.
Dont get me wrong...,i like the motoman reviews... But... 1. Yep its no dual clutch, just automated mct or whatever its called... and 2. nope, u dont have to stand still for "drift mode"... u can even engage on the highway as long as youre below 100kmh Cheers
The black trim is part of the "Night Package" -- without that option there is plenty of bright-work to make those various areas "pop." Personally, I like the blacked out look on the higher-end AMG models.
MotoMan, for daily driver would you get the optional AMG sports seats or the standard comfort seats? Thanks for the great review. BTW, been pleading with BMW to make M5 Estate. Sadly, not happening. So many models. I say why not.
Sami Anttila All black has no personality it’s just blah. That’s why the CIA,FBI and other government agency go with all black there’s nothing special about them. They all look alike.
KEVIN MANSFIELD I'm pretty sure the agencies buy those plain black cars because it is cheaper, but I agree, black makes a car muted. And that is what makes a sleeper out of a super fast car.
I like subtlety so I would go for the Merc and remove the badges. I want something special but I don’t like flashy so I would opt for this black on black with badges removed. Go to the grocery store, pick up the kids from school on normal days and hammer it down on the not so normal days. Only gear heads would know what this is and just a nod of the head would do.
I like the car, but like you mentioned, the old man town car trans shifter on the steering column is a major fail. I also think the popping from the exhaust belongs on a Civic with a fart can exhaust, not on a executive luxury station wagon.
Yes, technically the Panamera is an S Class competitor . . . However, being this field is SOOOO small, I would consider the Sport Turismo derivation of the Panamera a competitor to this due to form factor, cargo capacity, use and - of course - output.
The Merc all day, it’s a sleeper! What more do you want to hear? I’d debadge it just for the added smile on my face when I dust 90% of the cars on the road.
Needs more power - in the form of a plugin hybrid version. Another 120-150bhp. 30-40 mile of electric only range and it would (kind of) become an affordable eco station wagon.
I don't know why jurnalists so often think that amg cars have dual clutch transmissions, the press releases must have some confusing wording. Only the a45 does, this has a close derivative of the 9speed torque converter, just instead of that this has a wet clutch setup. Maybe its a dual PLATE clutch, i dont know, but its not a dual clutch like a pdk for example.
also i still want them to build a sclass estate, of course with that crazy yacht boot floor like the last gen cls had. that would be an awesome thing for roadtrips
I'd pick the E63 Wagon over a Sport Turismo for the family car. Mercedes is known for being a family brand, whereas Porsche is known to be a sports car...let's keep it that way. Turn it around and ask me if I'd prefer a Porsche turbo (s) vs a AMG GT-S and I'd go with the 911 no questions asked. All in all, if I'm going to buy a family car it'll be a Benz, if I'm going to buy a sports car it's going to be the Porsche.
you don't want to hold this up....haha yeah MB engineers...they did a better job on the S211 station wagon trunk as they put a lifter in there to hold the "secret storage" cover up...
Daniel Sadjadian This is not the only RS6 killer like the M5 embarrasses the RS6. Audi just does not have it and they haven’t in a real long time sorry dude.
That's why you don't "teenager" your Mercedes luxury car with all that night package and carbon fibre crap. Chrome with wood trim on saddle brown leather (86 those "performance seats" though - they'll break your back) is the only way to go in this car, if you're over the age of 16. Carbon fibre is what rich kids put on the car mommy and daddy bought for them because they saw one of the Fast and Furious movies. Wood trim is for the adults - and you can still have plenty of juvenile fun with that 600 hp engine, turning on the exhaust and putting it in RWD mode. You don't need back surgery for that.
Good to see The Boss is back, in a car worthy of his presence! My problem with the Panamera is the size. 5 inches longer, and a whooping 4 inches wider, and you feel it downtown to a point where you get conscious about its size. It's also, to be fully honest, overpriced, even for cars that defy rationale. The E63S, I'd spec it in the dark-ish blue, with brown nappa leather and brown ash wood open pore. Leave the piano black or carbon fiber at home, please. Hauling from Canada!
Incredible car. These engines put out around 650hp in the real world. That's more than enough..... and as for the length? It's a 1/4 inch longer than the sedan.. if you notice that..... well, you're special ;)
Just waiting to take delivery of a Sport Turismo in volcano gray... the hybrid version. Gorgeous as they come. The Merc seems too much over the top and in your face. Also, with driving restrictions becoming more common place here in Spain, I like the combination of sensible e-power when needed and performance. 460bhp more than enough for me. Keep up the good job motoman!
What an intro! Oh also as a German, you dont want to say "Bist du fertig?" as that means more of "Are you done?" than the "Are you ready?" (which would be better stated as "Bist du bereit?"). :)
It's a very tough choice. But I'd probably think that the Porsche has more personality, is more fun to drive and *maybe* depreciate less? If you are considering 125k+ wagons, I'd probably have money for a 50k more anyway. The price isn't even a factor at that point. Up in Chicago land. I'd tick all the performance options and all driver assistance features (for the family duties) - I think there is plenty luxury anyway.
E63 alllllllll day. Either base (no options) or matte grey, yellow brakes. Also, wives don’t like station wagons they want SUVs. Only guys like these. Have more luck with a GLC63. Cheaper too.
I have to admit I really hate station wagons they were real popular when I was a kid. But this is the exception, I like it probably would not buy it though. Love your Husky I have it’s big brother all white Alaskan Malamute it’s 128 pounds and chases coyotes that come up from the canyon. Just to play but want no part in that. My choice is the BMW M5.
How the hell you know the Turkish Pazars (Bazaar)! :) It is indeed, huge, incredible crowded, you can find anything you can dream of (Not a tiger but a lot of cats) and very silly prices. Buying a real Emporio Armani Italian style jacket for 5 Euros makes even a man run there before hi,s wife, girl friend etc. If seeing 1980's Yamaha classic music receiver and speakers in one of those hundreds of second hand/retro shops or other similar staff etc. don't do for you...
Speedshift MCT unit from Mercedes-AMG, is a multi-clutch automatic gearbox. Instead of a torque converter, like conventional automatics, it possesses a “clutch pack,” which includes multiple clutches placed together and controlled separately. It is easily differentiated from dual-clutch automatics because it has a single input shaft
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Nice reviews, thanks very much. I appreciate your insights and commentary. Agree with almost all that you said.
I just ordered the AMG E63s wagon over the Porsche. The M5 was not even a contender due to the lack of cargo space. I did consider the X5M and found the driving safety tech to be lacking (I drive a lot in traffic in Boston and get a lot of piece of mind with Distronic and lane change). Also there is no comparison on performance between the X5M and the AMG.
I traded my 2017 R8 v10+ for the wagon, and got cash back. I had the R8 plus an X5 diesel for long haul/hockeybag moving efforts. When I get rid of the X5 35d I'll decide what sporty thing to replace the R8 with. The problem with the R8 was the statement it made. I work in private equity and we are always pushing companies to manage costs down and be lean - drive in with that car and you are not making the right impression let's just say. As a result I drove it less than 2,000 miles in 2 years. Won't lose sleep over that space in the garage. When I chip the AMG it will be pretty close to the R8 in performance.
I had an RS7 before the R8, incidentally. Loved that car. Chipped I was doing 0-60 in 3.3 with amazing sounds coming into the cabin and all of tech you could imaging. Audi gets interiors right. HOWEVER the best car I ever owned for the mix of driver passion and stealth - the E39 M5. Still the standard by which I measure all others, and I have had or driven almost all of them. Can't wait to compare this to that... I know different but the RWD mode is going be interesting.
The Porsche Panamera Turbo is amazing, I drove it but it's a bit too expensive in comparison and still a bit of a problem "impression wise". The Porsche is hands down a better drivers car. I had a 911 Turbo S and came to respect Porsche's single minded focus on excellence in driving performance. The telepathic feel you get when you drive.
In summary it's the stealth mode, performance, and practicality that got me to the AMG - I know this is my own personal thing but that's what I LOVE about the Mercedes. I will debadge it to further avoid the problems with "making the wrong impression". And that's what I LOVE about this vehicle. 19 out of 20 people will NEVER KNOW. Oh and get this - wife always riding me to get rid of the R8 - "you never drive it" - she won't even get in it because it's too low, etc. So when I told her I was trading it she sort of turned white expecting something even more extreme. When I told her I was getting a Mercedes wagon and showed her a picture she lit up like a Christmas Tree.
And that's the icing on the cake.... (At least until she hears it)
You made a great decision, hope that car is treating you well
Update on what you thought about it once you got it ?
Wonderful editing and filming. Great review. You need more subscribers.
Nice review, I have one [Selenite Grey Magno] and traded in my 991 Turbo S for it. It really is that good and add a tune [720hp] along with adjustable front upper A arms for proper camber when lowered to dial in the handling, you have a canyon monster.....just sayin
What an amazing sounding engine. Sadly used AMG wagons just like used CTS-V wagons annoyingly hold their value, must all the car magazine journalists buying them.
Yes, most AMGs drop like stones except - ahem - for this one:( Maybe one day I will tell you guys the story of how I talked my neighbor out of leasing and got him to BUY a used CTS-V Wagon with a stick . . . which he already has a built in profit on. I don't like him:)
If I had the money id get it in diamond white metallic with the 20" matt black forged wheels, Nut brown Napa leather interior paired with natural grain black ash wood trim, the AMG advanced lighting package, AMG carbon fiber package, rear decklid badge delete, AMG Napa leather performance steering wheel, AMG performance seats, sun protection package, acoustic comfort package, soft close doors and the AMG performance exhaust for 121,540
Quickest station wagon on the roads! Moms will be happy :))
You always make great videos, but I really loved this one. Great work.
Vielen dank!
MotoManTV Bitte sehr.
16:43 The Benz DOES not have a Twin Clutch Transmission, it's an automatic MCT
I was gonna say. I dont think its a DSG but im no expert.
Daniel Bell Larsen Wrong transmission. This car has a 9 speed MCT. Which is an automatic. www.autoevolution.com/news/mercedes-amg-s-mct-transmission-explained-in-layman-s-terms-112461.html
MCT stands for Multi Clutch Transmission
I think only the amg gt series gets the dual clutch trannys no?
Its a bit of both not a dual clutch, not a torque converter. Its a combination of the two, regardless it works great and is better than a boring ZF8
I choose the Mercedes AMG E 63s 4Matic+ Wagon, with Night package and a white paint with black wheels, because I think in this way it looks sporty. OR, I also like it in the black in the video and have standard chrome trims and aluminum wheels to give it a flavour of elegance.
Although the Porsche Panamera Turbo is also a stunning wagon, I think there is no reason for anyone to choose that over the E 63. Since it is slower and more expensive. Thank you!
You can get that red from the AMG GT on this car. And all that black trim and carbon are optional. It comes standard with chrome, and can look almost like an E400 with the right choices.
I was looking at this wagon vs. B7 Alpina. Going with wagon but worry about low profile tires. Pot holes and irregular road surface are an occasional problem. I see a matte finish grey wagon near me, great color.
"I don't smoke, but I need a cigarette"! I need that wag!
Super enthusiastic review! I love it! This is one badass car that I wish I see more on the road. Wish they kept the 6. 2 liter engine though.
Best episode to date. Love your videos, they make us feel like we’re sitting next to you in the car. Love to Kumo all the best 😊
Thanks for the kind words . . . As you can tell, the boss man and I had a great time putting this one together:)
BTW, totally agree on the perfect garage. And because that's the perfect garage, is why I would pick the Merc over the Panamera. Would love to have one of each brand.
Pretty sure the black trim is an option.
Yep
I like the M5. I LOVE the E63s Wagon. The practicality of the wagon combined with the fun factor is mind blowing. I would take it over the Panamera as well and have enough money left for a Performance Pack2 Mustang!
Just curious.... You test all these amazing vehicles (with a Toyota Avalon tossed in to erase all the smiles) but what is your daily driver? What do you own that you drive to get to these amazing vehicles you test and keep your fans giggling? Keep up the good work!
That answer is liberally sprinkled in most of my episodes - however, had to stop because viewers got sick of hearing about it. That said, now more into airplanes . . . Check it out on Instagram: @MotoManTV
@MotoManTV Would you rather have this AMG E63 S wagon or the Volvo V90? I know they don't compete on power and performance, but on looks, comfort, daily life.
I saw a Panamara wagon in burgundy. It really worked.
NuclearGrizzly I can see that working, though I think it would look better on the sport turismo
In America the Sport Turismo is referred to as a wagon. It also had the saddle brown and luxor interior. Very attractive car.
I love the ridiculousness of this wagon. I love the all black, I would tint as much as is allowed and badge delete. Right now I see a 2012 CTS-V wagon with a manual transmission on sale in Burbank for $39,000. Yes it isn't nearly as high tech as the new beasts from Germany, and yes extra money will need to be put in for repairs and upkeep. But it's a high horsepower manual wagon for a whole lot less and I bet if kept in great condition it will start to appreciate very soon.
Buy it. Now. I want 10% of your profit when you sell it.
Poor dog! Mine did the same thing! Took her to an animal chiropractor.....big difference! Thanks for this awesome video!
The trim around the windows is brushed standard like you want the black is an option.
It indeed is . . .
Out here in the West, I have to go with the Panamera turbo sport truismo e-hybrid, and damn the extra expense. Momma has her LX570.
OK I’m putting the “Nursing Home Money” into one of these!
I like both very much!! But thinking I'd take the Mercedes and put the extra 45-50 in the bank! Love the Porsche but.... Hard call for sure but love the cayenne too! Maybe the new 2019 S version instead. Totally different beast but nice siting up higher and can you really fully use 600 horse power!!
This is a tough choice! I have to pick one this week! With 2 kids and luggage, the Merc should be a no brainer but the Merc has a really harsh ride compared to the M5 and that has really made it tough!
That launch gave me goosebumps
U must stink then
I love the intro! Had me laughing out loud! "whole paycheck grocery store." Gold!
My 2014 E63 wagon has the shifter on the center console - I like the new features on the 2018, but not loving the shifter. We'll see which year I upgrade to and when. This is a GREAT CAR!
After you get used to it you would like it better. You have paddle shifters so it is just a selector to from forward to reverse.
E63 S, easy choice when compared to the panamera E-sport thingy. Mine built came to 116,620, Blue, brown int, AMG Premium pkg (lots of safety stuff), and AMG exhaust + 3yr MX. People have to realize, you don't need to get silly in the options checklist part of the build and just be sensible, or as sensible a $116k, 603hp wagon can be. $10k over base isn't horrible and is 10% of the car, so right in light with other options on lesser cars.
Dont get me wrong...,i like the motoman reviews...
But...
1. Yep its no dual clutch, just automated mct or whatever its called... and
2. nope, u dont have to stand still for "drift mode"... u can even engage on the highway as long as youre below 100kmh
Cheers
The black trim is part of the "Night Package" -- without that option there is plenty of bright-work to make those various areas "pop." Personally, I like the blacked out look on the higher-end AMG models.
MotoMan, for daily driver would you get the optional AMG sports seats or the standard comfort seats? Thanks for the great review. BTW, been pleading with BMW to make M5 Estate. Sadly, not happening. So many models. I say why not.
The black color makes it a sleeper. Just remove or plastidip black all the emblems and it'd be perfect.
Sami Anttila
All black has no personality it’s just blah. That’s why the CIA,FBI and other government agency go with all black there’s nothing special about them. They all look alike.
KEVIN MANSFIELD I'm pretty sure the agencies buy those plain black cars because it is cheaper, but I agree, black makes a car muted. And that is what makes a sleeper out of a super fast car.
All black makes me think it is a performance car. Blue, dark red, or green with chrome trim and small wheels on this thing is a real sleeper.
You don't plastidip anything on a $100,000+ car
It looks mean but he's right, the brushed metal version looks far better
Is this better than the M5?
I like subtlety so I would go for the Merc and remove the badges. I want something special but I don’t like flashy so I would opt for this black on black with badges removed. Go to the grocery store, pick up the kids from school on normal days and hammer it down on the not so normal days. Only gear heads would know what this is and just a nod of the head would do.
This car is like a brandnew baby you cant stay away from it
Just order it w/o the Night Package if the black trim is too much. Personally, I prefer the black trim w/ Lunar Blue metallic.
Whole pay check. That’s hilarious!
Merc all the way. Will use remaining funds to buy a used 911. Heptic feedback is enough to pass on the Panamera.
Such a great car.
I like the car, but like you mentioned, the old man town car trans shifter on the steering column is a major fail. I also think the popping from the exhaust belongs on a Civic with a fart can exhaust, not on a executive luxury station wagon.
AMG is the GOAT
So which is it? Does the Panamera compete with the E63 or the S63? In your previous review you stated the Panamera competes with the S63.
Yes, technically the Panamera is an S Class competitor . . . However, being this field is SOOOO small, I would consider the Sport Turismo derivation of the Panamera a competitor to this due to form factor, cargo capacity, use and - of course - output.
Lol at the WHOLE paycheck reference
Kumo is back!!! Yay!!!
Previous Gen AMGs had their shifter (when they could) in the console. But also look at that panel in the console. Where are they gonna put a shifter?
By moving the cup holders. MUCH preferred the old shifter . . .
E63s all day, every day!
14:03 Nice editing on the colorful graphic (animation) of air out of the rear vents (you did put that in post, right?). :-)
LOL - Good eye! That was Kumo's Easter egg . . . :)
Yes I noticed that tooo... glad to see Kumo back as side kick.
I'm a huge BMW fan, but I'd get this Benz ALL DAY LONG becuase of the wagon form.
The Merc all day, it’s a sleeper! What more do you want to hear? I’d debadge it just for the added smile on my face when I dust 90% of the cars on the road.
You have so much more space in the back seat and cargo area of the AMG . The 9 speed is also better and it costs less!
Top speed?
Great video 👍 E63 all day, love the look the sound but as you said maybe a little to much black apart from that nice car
Did you change you recording camera ? It is terrible.
I pick E63 Exterior color red black interior & fully loaded
Needs more power - in the form of a plugin hybrid version. Another 120-150bhp. 30-40 mile of electric only range and it would (kind of) become an affordable eco station wagon.
That’s why I’m here 😂
I don't know why jurnalists so often think that amg cars have dual clutch transmissions, the press releases must have some confusing wording. Only the a45 does, this has a close derivative of the 9speed torque converter, just instead of that this has a wet clutch setup. Maybe its a dual PLATE clutch, i dont know, but its not a dual clutch like a pdk for example.
also i still want them to build a sclass estate, of course with that crazy yacht boot floor like the last gen cls had. that would be an awesome thing for roadtrips
I'd pick the E63 Wagon over a Sport Turismo for the family car. Mercedes is known for being a family brand, whereas Porsche is known to be a sports car...let's keep it that way. Turn it around and ask me if I'd prefer a Porsche turbo (s) vs a AMG GT-S and I'd go with the 911 no questions asked. All in all, if I'm going to buy a family car it'll be a Benz, if I'm going to buy a sports car it's going to be the Porsche.
the cigarettes piece.. who was first.. the straight pipes of MotoMan? Or maybe just a coincidence!
Simply amazing
This vs RRS SVR?!
you don't want to hold this up....haha yeah MB engineers...they did a better job on the S211 station wagon trunk as they put a lifter in there to hold the "secret storage" cover up...
"You and I need to have a discussion..."
Doesn’t have double clutch.
I would choose the panamera
How is the chassis rigidity?
I drove a GLC which is on the E chassis, and I was not impressed. My C63 507 is much stiffer.
RS6 killer... until the next gen anyway.
The Truth alright until the facelift then. But yes the E63 S is great, even best the new M5!
Daniel Sadjadian
This is not the only RS6 killer like the M5 embarrasses the RS6.
Audi just does not have it and they haven’t in a real long time sorry dude.
Daniel Sadjadian in North America the Benz wins. Because Audi doesn’t deliver the RS6 to our continent.
@The Truth ua-cam.com/video/wp83qahFlpo/v-deo.html wanna bet?
The mercedes cus thats a dream
Sounds brutal!
What do you think about the rear??
couldnt agree more with the black trim... who the hell made that popular!? I want contrast!
That's why you don't "teenager" your Mercedes luxury car with all that night package and carbon fibre crap. Chrome with wood trim on saddle brown leather (86 those "performance seats" though - they'll break your back) is the only way to go in this car, if you're over the age of 16. Carbon fibre is what rich kids put on the car mommy and daddy bought for them because they saw one of the Fast and Furious movies. Wood trim is for the adults - and you can still have plenty of juvenile fun with that 600 hp engine, turning on the exhaust and putting it in RWD mode. You don't need back surgery for that.
AMG63 station wagon is the best all day use sports car ever (it's a 4 in 1 car)
Buy this used in a couple years for 35 40 grand yes please!
you are best thank you
Is this an independent channel now or are you still affiliated with the family of dealerships
Not certain what you are referring to, but this has always been an independent channel.
Whoops mixed you up with Rosenthal Automotive which is a channel run by a dealership network.
Vancouver Island. Not Victoria Island. ;)
Good to see The Boss is back, in a car worthy of his presence! My problem with the Panamera is the size. 5 inches longer, and a whooping 4 inches wider, and you feel it downtown to a point where you get conscious about its size. It's also, to be fully honest, overpriced, even for cars that defy rationale. The E63S, I'd spec it in the dark-ish blue, with brown nappa leather and brown ash wood open pore. Leave the piano black or carbon fiber at home, please. Hauling from Canada!
Kumo sez DANKE!
I wish all car had column shifters.
Incredible car. These engines put out around 650hp in the real world. That's more than enough..... and as for the length? It's a 1/4 inch longer than the sedan.. if you notice that..... well, you're special ;)
Just waiting to take delivery of a Sport Turismo in volcano gray... the hybrid version. Gorgeous as they come. The Merc seems too much over the top and in your face. Also, with driving restrictions becoming more common place here in Spain, I like the combination of sensible e-power when needed and performance. 460bhp more than enough for me.
Keep up the good job motoman!
What an intro!
Oh also as a German, you dont want to say "Bist du fertig?" as that means more of "Are you done?" than the "Are you ready?" (which would be better stated as "Bist du bereit?"). :)
Daniel Jacob that's what I was thinking. "Why does he keep asking if we're finished?"
Daniel Jacob
du bist ein Idiot
This is what you buy to scare the shit out of your kids to ensure they never ask you for a ride again
I would buy the RS6!!!
It's a very tough choice. But I'd probably think that the Porsche has more personality, is more fun to drive and *maybe* depreciate less? If you are considering 125k+ wagons, I'd probably have money for a 50k more anyway. The price isn't even a factor at that point. Up in Chicago land. I'd tick all the performance options and all driver assistance features (for the family duties) - I think there is plenty luxury anyway.
50k is still 50k. Those people who get rich don't ignore the value of one product over another.
Keep in mind that most of these cars are leased and written off as business expenses at that end of the spectrum.
Did I hear BOV on 9:37?
This or M5? :D
Guess I'm not getting the station wagon thing. Want utility? Get a truck? High performance car? Get a sedan
I'll choose the E63s because it is cheaper and very fast.
Ok, now that Ford and GM are scaling down their sedan production, where does that leave cars like one and other Hot Wagons?
B Bee with the rest of the world? Europe for one loves wagons
Whole paycheck groceries 😂😂😂😂😂
E63 alllllllll day. Either base (no options) or matte grey, yellow brakes. Also, wives don’t like station wagons they want SUVs. Only guys like these. Have more luck with a GLC63. Cheaper too.
Jason Parry very true. Wifey here vetoed the station wagon proposition very strongly. Went with a GLE63 to save my marriage
Jason Parry you mean GLE 63
White? White cars are for meter maids. Grey, all roads lead to the grey. You can't spell Germany with out Grey, or Gray.
B Bee
I like your logic but I’m a blue guy myself. Because blue is a cool color. ( a play on words )
KEVIN MANSFIELD , as long as its not deodorant can blue...I'd like to down farther on the light spectrum
You’re gay
White if kept clean and with carbon fiber trim is beautiful.
I have to admit I really hate station wagons they were real popular when I was a kid. But this is the exception, I like it probably would not buy it though. Love your Husky I have it’s big brother all white Alaskan Malamute it’s 128 pounds and chases coyotes that come up from the canyon. Just to play but want no part in that.
My choice is the BMW M5.
KEVIN MANSFIELD I’m over boring sedans. The Europeans do cars so much better than Americans, it’s not even funny.
Dude whos asking for chromes on his mercedes must have those jeans on him........
How the hell you know the Turkish Pazars (Bazaar)! :) It is indeed, huge, incredible crowded, you can find anything you can dream of (Not a tiger but a lot of cats) and very silly prices. Buying a real Emporio Armani Italian style jacket for 5 Euros makes even a man run there before hi,s wife, girl friend etc. If seeing 1980's Yamaha classic music receiver and speakers in one of those hundreds of second hand/retro shops or other similar staff etc. don't do for you...