I think he was seriously brainwashed since he was born by the League of Assasins, he didn't know he was doing bad things, and getting rid of all of the stuff he was thought is really difficult. He did fucked up things, but still, he chooses his father over the League, and chooses to not kill and be a vigilant.
I wasn't morally wrong for damian to have his own prison police prisons are worse and easily escaped from. In addition; this guy called the batfamily crazy and said beating up mentally ill murderers was wrong to protect others which is what the batfamily does. The batfamily doesn't kill and is far more moral than the police who do. Have he seen what the cops do on a daily basis they do all kinds of evil that batman wouldn't do
He's much better now in recent comics, though. It's nice to see him getting some development. Honestly, Damian's brattiness mostly depends on who's writing him and how well they understand his character.
True. It's the same for every character. For example, I love batman but I think I would hate most iterations of batman from the comics based on what I hear. I love him from the dcau and the batman. That is what defines the character to me.
@@Infinityflow0 Yep, same idea, but u should try some Batman comics! He's a great character. The good versions of him outweigh the bad ones in my opinion. If ur interested, I'd love to give u recs
Hardcore combatant, hopeful, self-disciplined, optimistic-realism to keep Batman in check, the Batfamily's smartest detective, Tim Drake is without a doubt the best Robin and worked hard to uphold the legacy of Jason's death. But hey, a blood relative to a mainstream hero obviously deserves more focus over Tim to for over a decade right (not even in media besides Young Justice)?
Tim drake was before my time but looking back he's the more interesting character than Damian who I I really only like with the rest of the Robin's or with superboy. Yet we keep getting him pushed on us instead of the others.
Damian’s life is the worse, he was raised by Ra’s and Tailia being forced to kill since growing up then he meets Bruce to just learn that killing is wrong and then his father dies and he has to be Robin without his father. People like to hate Damian but if they think real long and hard and realizes that if they grew up like Damian they’d be the same
Killing is not always wrong, for Batman it's kinda cool the fact that he doesn't kill. But I find superheroes who don't kill kinda unrealistic (weird, I'm talking about superheroes 😂😂) sometimes killing can save lives, sometimes killing is all you can do, and some people really deserve to be killed. Killing doesn't make you a bad person, it depends on who you kill. Personally that's why I find heroes who kill more realistic.
Oh, they fight alright. But jason also has a kind of soft spot for him, mainly cause he's a child and he knows personally how bad the league and Talia are, but aldo because he thinks that being batman's actual son would screw with anyone's mind. But they fought more than ones and actually hurt eachother. Also pre 52 jason shot him to hurt dick grayson when he was batman
Ultimate LifeForm No he definitely never beat either of them dick Grayson is a top 10 fighter in dc and Jason is also really strong Damien isn’t anywhere near them yet
Does anybody else want to see a story where the main Damian Wayne ends up meeting the more evil versions of himself, like Batman Beyond Demon's Head Damian or Injustice Damian? I can just picture how these stories would play out. Similar to how the OG Superman was disgusted by everything his Injustice counterpart had done, Damian would feel the same about his counterparts. If Damian actually met Demon's Head Damian, then he would chew him up and spit him out for throwing away everything he had gained from his time with the Batfamily just to be a Ra's al Ghul copycat. And as for Injustice Damian? I will defend that boy to the death because he is no where near as bad as Injustice Superman or Injustice Wonder Woman, but the OG Damian would tear him a new one after finding out what happened to Dick. Dick Grayson is basically the only person Damian actually likes in the grand scheme of things. He's definitely on better terms with Bruce and he loves him dearly, but they still have their rough patches. He and Jason have a lot in common given that their both angry Robins who have killed plenty of people, but I wouldn't call them best friends. And yeah, his relationship with Tim is fucked up to say the least, but I do agree with Needlemouse when he says that maybe he does want to be Tim's friend, but he can't bring himself to say that after all that's gone on between them. Damian is also great friends with Jon. Everybody loves those Supersons stories. And the Titans...yeah, that's something else entirely. Dick Grayson is Damian's brother, and he loves him more than he can express. I mean, that scene where Damian and Dick run into each other during the whole Grayson storyline and they both realize that the other is alive (Dick went under cover with Spiral before Bruce resurrected Damian and Damian had no idea Dick faked his death to infiltrate Spiral) and Damian literally jumps into Dick's arms and says, "I missed you" hits me every time. So him finding out that there's a version of him in the multiverse who killed Dick, even by accident, would definitely send him into a rage. If the OG Damian beat some sense into his Injustice counterpart and helped him stand up to Injustice Superman, I could easily see him return to his universe, run up to Dick, and give him a hug. Then Dick would say, "What's wrong?" And Damian would reply saying something like, "Nothing. Just keep annoying me." And then Dick immediately realizes something big went down, and he'd hug Damian back.
Batman Beyond Damian isnt evil at all. He temporarily relapsed to his old ways but he was a good guy at the end of the story again and hugged it out with Bruce. Also Injustice Damian is a disappointmenr that always loses fights,while Batman Beyond Damian fullfilled the potential he always had and SURPASSED Batman himself. Granted Bruce did say Damian improved since the last time he saw him so maybe Injustice Damian can get stronger
Tim first tho, dc did him dirty, they pushed him out of the role of robin by creating damian, but won't let tim grow up like dick did by becoming nightwing, leaving him awkwardly in the middle with now as red robin.
Most of the worst things he has done come from Elseworlds stories, mostly the Injustice universe. In the main universe, most of the worst things he did was before his time with Batman or in the beginning of that - in other words when he was still training to be an assassin. You can’t expect an assassin not to do things that are messed up. Now, after spending some time with his dad, he’s a good guy - still kind of an asshole, but a good guy nonetheless.
There's a lot of pros and cons to that idea. If Damian Wayne isn't tuned down like how he is for the DC animated movies, then I think he himself will make the movie either a hard PG-13 or R rating.
Even though the entire team agreed to it both Wally and Djinn still brought up that there would be massive negative consequences should this plan to have Djinn do to them what Zatanna did to criminals pre-Identity Crisis backfire, With Damian's response being that should it ever backfire they'll deal with the consequences together.
Amazing video man, just one thing. When talking about everything he did to Tim, he never actually beat up Tim at all, in fact, Tim easily beat Damian, telling him how he lost the fight the moment Tim started trying, and its true, Tim easily won the fight. Other than that, amazing video!
yeah, I should have really just said 'he attacked him' bit of a cock up on my part, especially since thats the comic Tim stopped holding back and let Damian really have it, but yeah sorry about that :(
Plus I feel like recently at least in this current continuity Red Robin and Robin are kinda getting along better, I mean one of the reasons why he decided to recreate his version of the teen titans was to honor Tim, since at the time Red Robin was believed to be dead by the bat family and his friends when he sacrificed his life to save Gotham city (but we all know that he didn’t died and was imprisoned by Mr Oz/Jor-El for that period of time)
Hey NeedleMouseProductions you're really awsome and I watch you every day and I have a video suggestion top 10 batman villains I would give it on another social media account but I don't have one and top 5 worst things each of the robins has done
I think people forget that Damian's a child of abuse and neglect. It doesn't excuse his actions. It does explain them. He was basically brain washed from birth. Batman was also only interested in using him as a weapon, I would turn my back on a twisted dynamic like that too
I think killing Damian killing Dick is the worst thing he ever did. In the Injustice movie, you not only see him kill out of anger, but also see Batman break down in tears and get bloody knuckles from hitting his training equipment over and over. Granted Batman could've done more to help his "biological" son, but since Damian doesn't really share Batman's code or sympathy for others, I sometimes think he can't really do anything about it.
I like to think Dick failed at being a brother to Jason before he died. After Jason passed Dick made sure to mentor Tim and then Damian. Jason is the black sheep of the family and always will be. He feels the most distant. He’s like the cousin no one likes to talk about. Tim is the most like Bruce in the ways of his intellect. The difference between him and the rest is that he wasn’t initially adopted by Bruce like the first two. He has a close relationship with dick and it’s a shame it hasn’t been shown of late in the books. Damian is always on everyone’s bad side except for Dick. Dick took him under his wing when no one else would. That’s why they’re so damn close. He took a chance on this kid like a little brother. They’re bromance is adorable and they’re my favorite relationship in comics.
I actually took a liking to Damian in the movies from Son Of Batman to Justice League Dark Apocalypse War - though with all the alternate universes and timelines, etc it’s kind of confusing not knowing what storylines to go with as canon. Heh! 😅🤷♀️
I really wanna see Damian and Jason go at it toe to toe death battle blood and snot everywhere 😂 like when nightwing and Batman was fighting in the bat cave 🤘🏽‼️
@@shahidshafiq2207 even when Damian's older I still think Jason would beat him even Tim since he has the highest iq and is the best detective with acrobatic skills almost as good as nightwing
@@connor4435 no he didn't. It was a something they did together. Damian would throw something at Dick and he would catch it. That time Dick didn't. The throw didn't even kill Dick. It was hitting his head on a rock when he fell down that killed him.
4:07 He stopped his HEART? JESUS, DAMIEN! 4:38 "He thought it was the fastest solution." If that was meant to be a joke, well played Still Damien Wayne is my favorite Robin. I mean i knew he's willing to kill and do whatever is necessary to stop crime. But i didn't know he was this hardcore. God damn.
Everyone else was twiddling their thumbs about what to do next. It really was the fastest solution to the problem as they only had seconds before Slade would change the timeline. I feel like Priest and Percy didn't plot it well enough because everyone else seemed incompetent and Priest dialed back Damian to his old personality.
Devante Benton He does in the comics, but for some reason the writers of the animated movies give him plot armor. Making him around the same level as Batman nightwing and deathstroke who are 3 of the top 10 fighters in comics it doesn’t even make sense🤦🏾♂️
That’s so true. I actually don’t mind comic Damian; he did have a good arc for the whole “brainwashed assassin child” thing (although it doesn’t excuses all his shitty behaviors, Cassandra arguably had it worse and you don’t see her going around murdering her predecessor). It really was how the post-flashpoint animated movies kept shoving him in my face that made me went from neutral to disliking him....
He has no business getting his ass kicked by any human with no powers once he grows up.He is essentially a genetically perfected clone of Bruce Wayne,added with crazy Al Ghul genes and trained since birth. He was born for the sole purpose of replacing him his father,even in injustice he is an ever growing threat for Batman,every time they fight Damian does more and more damage to his father,you can even argue he got cheapshoted in their injustice 2 comic fight cause his arm getting broken is a gag,its only a matter of time Bruce loses to him like he lost to Jason Todd dressed as Batman Future Ends Batman Beyond showed us what Damian is gonna be one day,the man that will surpass the bat and the best and most perfect fighter ever,not mastering 127 martial arts like Batman but all of them.
there's also the Super Sons: The PolarShield Project version of Damien, who I'm guessing was found early on by his father meaning his crazy mother and crazy grandfather never got to taint him/train him into a killer.
@@mrheroprimes I've been out of touch with most comics for awhile so I didn't know about that, I've heard good things about Super Sons and that it unfortunately got cancelled.
If we're going by current comics then we could add not telling his teammates in the newest iteration of the Teen Titans that he had built underneath their base Mercy Hall a supermax prison along with it housing some of the worst villains ever and that decision backfired cause not only were Emiko, Wally, Will, Crush, and Djinn understandably mad but it would eventually lead to that failed mission involving Deathstroke and by failed I mean Emiko being forced to kill Slade and leaving the team to go back to Seattle to live with Oliver. Now here's hoping the entire team's decision to have Djinn pull a Zatanna and mess with the minds of the remaining prisoners and make them "docile" and then released doesn't come back to bite them later.
You know if we can mellow Damian a bit and let him keep the private prison Gotham's crime rate would severely fall due to most of them getting locked up forever. Arkham cant hold a criminal to save their lives
That went from zero to a hundred fast. "When he was a scared kid, he didn't stop the ultra scary leader of the league of assassins from blinding his friend. What a despicable guy! Also, he made rockets filled with gas to kill billions of innocent people because he thinks they're weak, taking more lives than all genocidal dictators in history combined"
I feel so bad for Dick watching this. Damian is his robin and keeps hurting the people he loves. Wally is one of Dick's best friends and Damian killed him (temporarily but still) and permanently injured him. Damian fuck Tim's line! Way to close to how Dick's parents died. I didn't know about the Wally thing. That's so messed up.
Do the Batman Beyond Comics ever explain why Damian left the Bat Family? He basically has no where to go if he actually leaves the Bat Family, but back to the League of Assassins, but that's something we need to know to really judge him becoming the Head of the Demon. I'm not saying that it excuses anything, but it's something I think we need to judge Beyond!Damian as a character.
Well to be fair, Batman Beyond is in the Rebirth series which is when the Flash creates another flashpoint to help save the human race. So things are bound to change from minor to drastic levels
Ah Damien well named and vicious and vindictive I noticed how you didn’t mention that terry is damien’s brother either. Since we know from justice league unlimited that terry is Bruce’s son. Just sharing some history
Me too. And tbh I feel that many prople in this comments haven't really read many of the good comics he's been in. All the ones tomasi has written or example. Batman and robin, supersons, and robin son of batman. He changed a lot from the horrible kid he was at first
Regardless of how many People have mixed Opinions with Damian Wayne, he's a Fan Favorite for a good reason and becomes a major Mainstay to the Batman Mythos.
Damian Wayne......Like father and Grandfather, like son and grandson. Seriously, I bet Damian has kill plans for each of his allies like Batman. Kinda makes me cry tbh
May not seem very bad, but also using Jason's death as a weapon to traumatize him (putting a crowbar in his bed), accusing him of being Leviathan, trying to kill him when he thought he was the Other without proof. After Tim, he hates and belittles Jason the most.
And to be fair unlike Tim Jason doesn't like Damian either I mean Jason pretty much called Damian a dumbass for making the decision to keep the existence of the prison beneath Mercy Hall a secret from the rest of the Teen Titans.
Though it's hard to tell which of the two things Jason did that being kicking Damian's ass or calling Damian a dumbass for making the decision to keep the existence of the prison beneath Mercy Hall a secret from the rest Teen Titans was more effective against Damian.
You’re wrong, the fact that Robin had his own prison underneath Titans Tower isn’t one of the worst things he has ever done and the fact that he did this isn’t bad at all, this is one of the best things that Robin has ever done and it was a great thing he did this.
No like thts fine but like needlemouse means Damien had lied to the others and tht was one of the worst things, like how would u feel if ur friend lied to you about having an underground prison, id be pretty pissed
@@sana_gamez_0-o340 I agree with you that Damien shouldn’t lied to his friends about the prison, but Needlemouse Productions said that putting the villains in the prison was bad, but in reality it wasn’t bad, it was the right thing to do.
I can certainly agree these are wrong, although honestly the only thing I really see as wrong about the prison entry is that it was under Titans Tower. Had it been somewhere else I would have seen that as pretty excusable
MegaGeek Mixer actually they don’t reveal it they do a DNA test for good measure & Bruce struggles opening it then he has second thought instead he tosses it into the fire & say Alfred he’s my son no matter what. So we still don’t know if slade or Bruce is his real father
I fucking hate how much Damian hates Tim Drake man, and going as far out as to making sure he gets no money whatsoever from the Wayne Fortune when he’s literally part of their family is just so bogus lol, as if he deserves it smfh 😤😠
The worst thing Damian Wayne has done is replace Tim Drake as Robin. Tim still could've been Robin to this day but Morrison fucked that up and then Bendis nailed the coffin shut by rebranding him as Drake: The duck knight ffs.
Personally, I think what made the prison under the Titans Tower morally wrong is A) there a team who ALL pose a risk living above a prison of supervillains so Damian not saying anything about it is not only horribly reckless but selfish knowing they would object. B) not treating the in-prisoned well, even if they “deserve it” at least give them the decency of beds. Besides that, I don’t think it’s all that bad so far as the Titans are unanimous on the subject and the prisoners are treated with dignity.
7:40 I’m curious if the Superboy clones were fully sentient beings (like Superboy), or merely mindless soldiers. The answer to that question would really determine whether Damian’s actions were justified.
just because damina had his own prison doesn't make it wrong just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong. It wasn't wrong at all the police are worse. Whats illegal and wrong aren't the same as each other just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong. It wasn't wrong at all to have his own prison the police prisons are worse.
Damian: “Get away from me, Jason: I’m a wanted man.”
Jason: “You weren’t even a wanted child!”
Lol
the colon threw me off
Not even Mera can help with that burn.
Yeah Dick is his the true son
fightingfalcon777 KILLER FROST CAPTAIN COLD WHERE ARE YOU we need your freeze powers and guns for that burn
It's funny how, in the Injustice clips, that his special move is whatever the special move of the character he's fighting is.
Yeah, I noticed.
Pretty sure that's a mod. His special move was 7:19.
Grand Admiral Thrawn yeah it’s a mod
Yes
Yeah I noticed
I think he was seriously brainwashed since he was born by the League of Assasins, he didn't know he was doing bad things, and getting rid of all of the stuff he was thought is really difficult.
He did fucked up things, but still, he chooses his father over the League, and chooses to not kill and be a vigilant.
Drayce Pinedo Still an asshole, though.
he did turn his back on his aging father so he deserves all the hate
I wasn't morally wrong for damian to have his own prison police prisons are worse and easily escaped from. In addition; this guy called the batfamily crazy and said beating up mentally ill murderers was wrong to protect others which is what the batfamily does. The batfamily doesn't kill and is far more moral than the police who do. Have he seen what the cops do on a daily basis they do all kinds of evil that batman wouldn't do
I still don’t care tho fuck Damian he’s a devil child
@@martinhodges572 shut up bitch
He's much better now in recent comics, though. It's nice to see him getting some development. Honestly, Damian's brattiness mostly depends on who's writing him and how well they understand his character.
Exactly
True. It's the same for every character. For example, I love batman but I think I would hate most iterations of batman from the comics based on what I hear. I love him from the dcau and the batman. That is what defines the character to me.
@@Infinityflow0 Yep, same idea, but u should try some Batman comics! He's a great character. The good versions of him outweigh the bad ones in my opinion. If ur interested, I'd love to give u recs
A man has fallen into the river build the batwing to get him out
HEY.
BUILD THE BATWING AND MAKE THE RESCUE.
Prepare the life line
Lower the stretcher
And make the rescue
@@blakeimortal1084 the new bat wing set from Lego city.
The new LEGO City Batwing set
Batcopter
I feel that Tim drake really got screwed over.
Oh 100%
Hardcore combatant, hopeful, self-disciplined, optimistic-realism to keep Batman in check, the Batfamily's smartest detective, Tim Drake is without a doubt the best Robin and worked hard to uphold the legacy of Jason's death. But hey, a blood relative to a mainstream hero obviously deserves more focus over Tim to for over a decade right (not even in media besides Young Justice)?
Tim drake was before my time but looking back he's the more interesting character than Damian who I I really only like with the rest of the Robin's or with superboy. Yet we keep getting him pushed on us instead of the others.
@the boulder he isnt the best robin because of his bad h2h combat skills that his intelligence DOES NOT MAKE UP FOR
@eligah lora lmao tim has beat damian once how many times has damian beat tim 3 TIMES go chexk ur facts tim beat damian once ffs
Damian’s life is the worse, he was raised by Ra’s and Tailia being forced to kill since growing up then he meets Bruce to just learn that killing is wrong and then his father dies and he has to be Robin without his father.
People like to hate Damian but if they think real long and hard and realizes that if they grew up like Damian they’d be the same
I understand him killing you is wrong but what if you were in his shoes?
Killing is not always wrong, for Batman it's kinda cool the fact that he doesn't kill. But I find superheroes who don't kill kinda unrealistic (weird, I'm talking about superheroes 😂😂) sometimes killing can save lives, sometimes killing is all you can do, and some people really deserve to be killed. Killing doesn't make you a bad person, it depends on who you kill. Personally that's why I find heroes who kill more realistic.
@Tim drake yeah it is.
Okay you’re raised by Ra’s Al Ghul tell me how do you think you’ll turn out?
@Tim drake it does not matter if the excuse is repetitive it matters if the excuse makes sense
Damian Wayne and Jason Todd Red Hood would've made a great anti-hero duo.
Fax
But they made a team in Batman Incorporated
With Alias of Red Bird and Wingman
@@khebre6032 Hmmm. How was it?
@@UncleMikeDropDamian didn't know who Wingman was
Damian Got angry when He realized Wingman is Jason but it was a good duo
I'll check it out @@khebre6032
Honestly I thought Damian and Jason would fight, I didn’t expect him and Tim lol
I think there was one time where Damian beat both Jason AND dick, though I’ve only heard it from others idk if it’s true or not
Oh, they fight alright. But jason also has a kind of soft spot for him, mainly cause he's a child and he knows personally how bad the league and Talia are, but aldo because he thinks that being batman's actual son would screw with anyone's mind. But they fought more than ones and actually hurt eachother. Also pre 52 jason shot him to hurt dick grayson when he was batman
Ultimate LifeForm No he definitely never beat either of them dick Grayson is a top 10 fighter in dc and Jason is also really strong Damien isn’t anywhere near them yet
Nightmare Bat they fought in new red hood stories and jason practically win
Among all the Robins, I think Jason likes Damian the most. The last time they met, they fought each other though
Does anybody else want to see a story where the main Damian Wayne ends up meeting the more evil versions of himself, like Batman Beyond Demon's Head Damian or Injustice Damian? I can just picture how these stories would play out. Similar to how the OG Superman was disgusted by everything his Injustice counterpart had done, Damian would feel the same about his counterparts.
If Damian actually met Demon's Head Damian, then he would chew him up and spit him out for throwing away everything he had gained from his time with the Batfamily just to be a Ra's al Ghul copycat.
And as for Injustice Damian? I will defend that boy to the death because he is no where near as bad as Injustice Superman or Injustice Wonder Woman, but the OG Damian would tear him a new one after finding out what happened to Dick. Dick Grayson is basically the only person Damian actually likes in the grand scheme of things. He's definitely on better terms with Bruce and he loves him dearly, but they still have their rough patches. He and Jason have a lot in common given that their both angry Robins who have killed plenty of people, but I wouldn't call them best friends. And yeah, his relationship with Tim is fucked up to say the least, but I do agree with Needlemouse when he says that maybe he does want to be Tim's friend, but he can't bring himself to say that after all that's gone on between them. Damian is also great friends with Jon. Everybody loves those Supersons stories. And the Titans...yeah, that's something else entirely.
Dick Grayson is Damian's brother, and he loves him more than he can express. I mean, that scene where Damian and Dick run into each other during the whole Grayson storyline and they both realize that the other is alive (Dick went under cover with Spiral before Bruce resurrected Damian and Damian had no idea Dick faked his death to infiltrate Spiral) and Damian literally jumps into Dick's arms and says, "I missed you" hits me every time. So him finding out that there's a version of him in the multiverse who killed Dick, even by accident, would definitely send him into a rage. If the OG Damian beat some sense into his Injustice counterpart and helped him stand up to Injustice Superman, I could easily see him return to his universe, run up to Dick, and give him a hug. Then Dick would say, "What's wrong?" And Damian would reply saying something like, "Nothing. Just keep annoying me." And then Dick immediately realizes something big went down, and he'd hug Damian back.
That would be awesome and bone chilling 👌
Man wrote a book
I NEED to see/read this.
Batman Beyond Damian isnt evil at all.
He temporarily relapsed to his old ways but he was a good guy at the end of the story again and hugged it out with Bruce.
Also Injustice Damian is a disappointmenr that always loses fights,while Batman Beyond Damian fullfilled the potential he always had and SURPASSED Batman himself.
Granted Bruce did say Damian improved since the last time he saw him so maybe Injustice Damian can get stronger
Why did you kill him
Damian:•because i'm Damian wayne!!!!!
doctor aracnido animations turn out he’s Damian Wilson
@@silentwolfkills3924 turns out that was never canonized, even if Priest had wanted it. He's Damian WAYNE.
Simon Ravencroft oh yeah I know he’s Bruce son & thank god for that
Cause i 'm Damian
I want them to give Damien a good redemption arc in a future movie
Tim first tho, dc did him dirty, they pushed him out of the role of robin by creating damian, but won't let tim grow up like dick did by becoming nightwing, leaving him awkwardly in the middle with now as red robin.
Kind of wish they’d adapt Robin: Son of Batman into a movie because that book gave Damian the redemption arc he very well deserved.
@@kenny5165 i watched the movie it was good
"Which Lantern Corps should The Simpsons be in"
Or "5 ways Bane is better than Batman"
Yesss
Or Family guy
Mr Burns without a doubt would be in the Orange lantern corps
@@JK-ip2ix He already did Family Guy
*Damian: Back Then.*
*Damian In Harley Quinn Show 2019: WTF.*
It`s called self-parody.
Yeah he was a lil sweet potato pie 🥺🥧💕
I aside from the calling for help and the nosebleeds it's pretty accurate to his modern version.
He just wants his nemesis 🤣
Can we acknowledge the fact that Damien has one of the highest kill counts of DC comic characters
Most of the worst things he has done come from Elseworlds stories, mostly the Injustice universe. In the main universe, most of the worst things he did was before his time with Batman or in the beginning of that - in other words when he was still training to be an assassin. You can’t expect an assassin not to do things that are messed up. Now, after spending some time with his dad, he’s a good guy - still kind of an asshole, but a good guy nonetheless.
I really wanna see a comic or movie of Damian Wayne destroing the world unless it's already made
That actually good idea
There's a lot of pros and cons to that idea. If Damian Wayne isn't tuned down like how he is for the DC animated movies, then I think he himself will make the movie either a hard PG-13 or R rating.
Maybe they could do a “Tales from the Dark Multiverse” one
@@GAdmThrawn probably R bacause thats what there doing right now
Future Tim Drake said Damian destroyed Gotham and Metropolis fighting Superboy.
How does Dick feel about Damian's hatred of Tim? As I recall Dick is the one who suggested Tim should become Robin in the first place.
3:36 A part of me thinks that's actually worse. Mind fuckery is usually worse
Even though the entire team agreed to it both Wally and Djinn still brought up that there would be massive negative consequences should this plan to have Djinn do to them what Zatanna did to criminals pre-Identity Crisis backfire, With Damian's response being that should it ever backfire they'll deal with the consequences together.
Amazing video man, just one thing. When talking about everything he did to Tim, he never actually beat up Tim at all, in fact, Tim easily beat Damian, telling him how he lost the fight the moment Tim started trying, and its true, Tim easily won the fight. Other than that, amazing video!
yeah, I should have really just said 'he attacked him' bit of a cock up on my part, especially since thats the comic Tim stopped holding back and let Damian really have it, but yeah sorry about that :(
@@NeedleMouseProductions Can you do which Lantern core should each Ninja turtle character be in?
Plus I feel like recently at least in this current continuity Red Robin and Robin are kinda getting along better, I mean one of the reasons why he decided to recreate his version of the teen titans was to honor Tim, since at the time Red Robin was believed to be dead by the bat family and his friends when he sacrificed his life to save Gotham city (but we all know that he didn’t died and was imprisoned by Mr Oz/Jor-El for that period of time)
He did beat Tim in Batman and Son. And in a mind game in New52.
@Tim drake just admit he beat drakes ass
Hey NeedleMouseProductions you're really awsome and I watch you every day and I have a video suggestion top 10 batman villains I would give it on another social media account but I don't have one and top 5 worst things each of the robins has done
Are we really shocked though.?
A little bit.
NIGHTWING NEVER GOT THE CHANCE
4:37 what the hell 💀
It's a mod
"Even Batman's scared of him" *He says as he is showing a clip of Batman beating the shit out of him.*
“he though it was the *fastest* solution”
i see what you did there
Damian: how could tim label me as villian
Also damian: tries to kill tim
I think people forget that Damian's a child of abuse and neglect. It doesn't excuse his actions. It does explain them. He was basically brain washed from birth. Batman was also only interested in using him as a weapon, I would turn my back on a twisted dynamic like that too
2:03 Batman is NOT scared of Ra’s al Ghul
Yeah
Damian do be actin like a karen sometimes
“This is the Bat family, a group of people who dress up and beat up the mentally ill”
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I've never seen an adaptation where batman is scared of ras algu while he's batman except maybe Batman begins
I think killing Damian killing Dick is the worst thing he ever did. In the Injustice movie, you not only see him kill out of anger, but also see Batman break down in tears and get bloody knuckles from hitting his training equipment over and over. Granted Batman could've done more to help his "biological" son, but since Damian doesn't really share Batman's code or sympathy for others, I sometimes think he can't really do anything about it.
Can we just appreciate Damian’s injustice 2 design this may be bias since Damian is my favorite but like come on it’s badass
It's great to have a new video to watch loving it already m8
You should do the relationships between all the robins
I like to think Dick failed at being a brother to Jason before he died. After Jason passed Dick made sure to mentor Tim and then Damian.
Jason is the black sheep of the family and always will be. He feels the most distant. He’s like the cousin no one likes to talk about.
Tim is the most like Bruce in the ways of his intellect. The difference between him and the rest is that he wasn’t initially adopted by Bruce like the first two. He has a close relationship with dick and it’s a shame it hasn’t been shown of late in the books.
Damian is always on everyone’s bad side except for Dick. Dick took him under his wing when no one else would. That’s why they’re so damn close. He took a chance on this kid like a little brother. They’re bromance is adorable and they’re my favorite relationship in comics.
I actually took a liking to Damian in the movies from Son Of Batman to Justice League Dark Apocalypse War - though with all the alternate universes and timelines, etc it’s kind of confusing not knowing what storylines to go with as canon. Heh! 😅🤷♀️
I really wanna see Damian and Jason go at it toe to toe death battle blood and snot everywhere 😂 like when nightwing and Batman was fighting in the bat cave 🤘🏽‼️
Jason Todd beat Damian while he was drunk
@@jamesmcpherson3793 there's a huge age gap between them so damian losing to jason isn't that surprising
@@shahidshafiq2207 even when Damian's older I still think Jason would beat him even Tim since he has the highest iq and is the best detective with acrobatic skills almost as good as nightwing
@@jamesmcpherson3793 i was talking about combat skills
Damian, my sweet angry boy. I love all the highs and lows of your life.
Super Sons
Even when he murdered Dick Grayson?
@@connor4435 he didn't murder Dick. His actions accidentally killed him.
Bistromath Commander it was third degree murder, he meant to harm him
@@connor4435 no he didn't. It was a something they did together. Damian would throw something at Dick and he would catch it. That time Dick didn't. The throw didn't even kill Dick. It was hitting his head on a rock when he fell down that killed him.
Damian, I like him. He is colder than Batman. Wish he was a original creation of Dc original artist and writers.
I hate him
@@spideyguy3315 fair play to you. We all have a dislike for some characters over others.
@@benreilly5951 he's just like one of the worst robins to ever be around with
@@spideyguy3315 I don't see him as Robin, is probably why I don't have issue with him. I just see him as Damian Wayne.
@@benreilly5951 yeah I see your point,and yeah I would prefer him as a person who wants to be the next ras al ghul if I spelled it wrong
4:07
He stopped his HEART? JESUS, DAMIEN!
4:38 "He thought it was the fastest solution." If that was meant to be a joke, well played
Still Damien Wayne is my favorite Robin. I mean i knew he's willing to kill and do whatever is necessary to stop crime. But i didn't know he was this hardcore. God damn.
Well what did you expect! He was raised the league of assassins and he's to most dangerous character in dc universe.
Everyone else was twiddling their thumbs about what to do next. It really was the fastest solution to the problem as they only had seconds before Slade would change the timeline. I feel like Priest and Percy didn't plot it well enough because everyone else seemed incompetent and Priest dialed back Damian to his old personality.
I like and hate Damian at the same time he’s cool but he’s also the kind of character I want to see get his kicked badly😂
Devante Benton He does in the comics, but for some reason the writers of the animated movies give him plot armor. Making him around the same level as Batman nightwing and deathstroke who are 3 of the top 10 fighters in comics it doesn’t even make sense🤦🏾♂️
That’s so true. I actually don’t mind comic Damian; he did have a good arc for the whole “brainwashed assassin child” thing (although it doesn’t excuses all his shitty behaviors, Cassandra arguably had it worse and you don’t see her going around murdering her predecessor). It really was how the post-flashpoint animated movies kept shoving him in my face that made me went from neutral to disliking him....
He has no business getting his ass kicked by any human with no powers once he grows up.He is essentially a genetically perfected clone of Bruce Wayne,added with crazy Al Ghul genes and trained since birth.
He was born for the sole purpose of replacing him his father,even in injustice he is an ever growing threat for Batman,every time they fight Damian does more and more damage to his father,you can even argue he got cheapshoted in their injustice 2 comic fight cause his arm getting broken is a gag,its only a matter of time Bruce loses to him like he lost to Jason Todd dressed as Batman
Future Ends Batman Beyond showed us what Damian is gonna be one day,the man that will surpass the bat and the best and most perfect fighter ever,not mastering 127 martial arts like Batman but all of them.
The only version of Damien I like is the one from Batman Brave and The Bold.
there's also the Super Sons: The PolarShield Project version of Damien, who I'm guessing was found early on by his father meaning his crazy mother and crazy grandfather never got to taint him/train him into a killer.
@@mrheroprimes I've been out of touch with most comics for awhile so I didn't know about that, I've heard good things about Super Sons and that it unfortunately got cancelled.
TheSonOfTheDragon I don’t know the one from Batman ninja is pretty fun
@@gogoyugirl9713 Haven't seen it yet, too much stuff getting in the way.
TheSonOfTheDragon fair enough
Havent watched the video yet but i know its going to be amazing as usual
I love videos when needlemouse tries to apply real life morality to comic books situations
If we're going by current comics then we could add not telling his teammates in the newest iteration of the Teen Titans that he had built underneath their base Mercy Hall a supermax prison along with it housing some of the worst villains ever and that decision backfired cause not only were Emiko, Wally, Will, Crush, and Djinn understandably mad but it would eventually lead to that failed mission involving Deathstroke and by failed I mean Emiko being forced to kill Slade and leaving the team to go back to Seattle to live with Oliver. Now here's hoping the entire team's decision to have Djinn pull a Zatanna and mess with the minds of the remaining prisoners and make them "docile" and then released doesn't come back to bite them later.
You know if we can mellow Damian a bit and let him keep the private prison Gotham's crime rate would severely fall due to most of them getting locked up forever. Arkham cant hold a criminal to save their lives
That went from zero to a hundred fast. "When he was a scared kid, he didn't stop the ultra scary leader of the league of assassins from blinding his friend. What a despicable guy!
Also, he made rockets filled with gas to kill billions of innocent people because he thinks they're weak, taking more lives than all genocidal dictators in history combined"
Damian Wayne having his own prison isn’t bad at all.
We need a movie if Damian never lived with Bruce Wayne and never became robin
I feel so bad for Dick watching this. Damian is his robin and keeps hurting the people he loves. Wally is one of Dick's best friends and Damian killed him (temporarily but still) and permanently injured him. Damian fuck Tim's line! Way to close to how Dick's parents died. I didn't know about the Wally thing. That's so messed up.
Dude the fact that you sort of say that killing bad super criminals who keep killing is wrong is actually beyond me.
Do the Batman Beyond Comics ever explain why Damian left the Bat Family? He basically has no where to go if he actually leaves the Bat Family, but back to the League of Assassins, but that's something we need to know to really judge him becoming the Head of the Demon. I'm not saying that it excuses anything, but it's something I think we need to judge Beyond!Damian as a character.
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What I learned from this video:
Damian has super speed
Torture methods
And lightning powers 😃👍
We guys really have to realise, how contemptible Ra and Talia are to raise Damian into what he is
I missed you!! I was just looking though your channel today, wanting you to drop us a new video. Thanks! ❤
8:50 he did in the dcau's last movie, he even wanted raven to lead it with him cause he had feelings for her.
Well to be fair, Batman Beyond is in the Rebirth series which is when the Flash creates another flashpoint to help save the human race. So things are bound to change from minor to drastic levels
Ah Damien well named and vicious and vindictive I noticed how you didn’t mention that terry is damien’s brother either.
Since we know from justice league unlimited that terry is Bruce’s son.
Just sharing some history
Not wearing my glasses, I read that title as, The 5 worst things that DAMON WAYANS has done...
Damian is the most disliked robin, change my mind
Black Mask: "Batman doesn't guns.."
Damian: "Doesn't he?"
I'd say giving criminals a peaceful life is really a good thing but that's just my assessment.
“Even Batman is scared of him” proceeds to show a clip of Batman beating the fuck outta Ra’s
Tbh I like Damian Wayne
Me too. And tbh I feel that many prople in this comments haven't really read many of the good comics he's been in. All the ones tomasi has written or example. Batman and robin, supersons, and robin son of batman. He changed a lot from the horrible kid he was at first
Regardless of how many People have mixed Opinions with Damian Wayne, he's a Fan Favorite for a good reason and becomes a major Mainstay to the Batman Mythos.
Damian Wayne......Like father and Grandfather, like son and grandson. Seriously, I bet Damian has kill plans for each of his allies like Batman. Kinda makes me cry tbh
May not seem very bad, but also using Jason's death as a weapon to traumatize him (putting a crowbar in his bed), accusing him of being Leviathan, trying to kill him when he thought he was the Other without proof. After Tim, he hates and belittles Jason the most.
And to be fair unlike Tim Jason doesn't like Damian either I mean Jason pretty much called Damian a dumbass for making the decision to keep the existence of the prison beneath Mercy Hall a secret from the rest of the Teen Titans.
@@derrickhaggard And rightfully kicked his ass, so that was nice.
Though it's hard to tell which of the two things Jason did that being kicking Damian's ass or calling Damian a dumbass for making the decision to keep the existence of the prison beneath Mercy Hall a secret from the rest Teen Titans was more effective against Damian.
The first one was a pretty smart move. His goal was to scare Jason by telling him he knows all his hideouts.
You’re wrong, the fact that Robin had his own prison underneath Titans Tower isn’t one of the worst things he has ever done and the fact that he did this isn’t bad at all, this is one of the best things that Robin has ever done and it was a great thing he did this.
No like thts fine but like needlemouse means Damien had lied to the others and tht was one of the worst things, like how would u feel if ur friend lied to you about having an underground prison, id be pretty pissed
@@sana_gamez_0-o340 I agree with you that Damien shouldn’t lied to his friends about the prison, but Needlemouse Productions said that putting the villains in the prison was bad, but in reality it wasn’t bad, it was the right thing to do.
@@trevturp7687 yeeeeee. k good talking to u!
@@sana_gamez_0-o340 What do you mean?
@@trevturp7687 i was just never gonna reply again but here i am lol..
I like that damian is slowly becoming a likable character
Good video NeedleMouse, what are your thoughts on the whole season of young justice outsiders?
Dick Grayson is the first one.
Jason Todd is the broken one.
Tim Drake is the jealous one.
Damian Wayne is the perfect one.
You should make a video on the best Wayne manors in animation and live action! Separate videos obviously
I can certainly agree these are wrong, although honestly the only thing I really see as wrong about the prison entry is that it was under Titans Tower. Had it been somewhere else I would have seen that as pretty excusable
Also Damian kind of screwed up by not telling the other Titans about it to begin with.
You should do every person Damien Wayne has killed that would be a great video
Younggamer 0075 i think he already did that 😐
Younggamer 0075 if he made a vid of everyone Damien Wayne has killed it would last 2 centuries no 🧢
Jabron Lames32 lol that’s so true
2:09 'even Batman is scared of him. Batman is pummeling the living hell out of him on the clip lmaoo
Turns out Damian’s real father is slade Wilson/ deathstroke. Dc better fix it & say it’s fake & Bruce is his real father
SilentWolfKills your joking right
Jaden Bryant no in the new comics it’s revealed that Damian’s father is Slade Wilson. I hope dc say it’s fake & say Bruce is his real father
It is they already confirmed that he really is Bruce's Son
MegaGeek Mixer actually they don’t reveal it they do a DNA test for good measure & Bruce struggles opening it then he has second thought instead he tosses it into the fire & say Alfred he’s my son no matter what. So we still don’t know if slade or Bruce is his real father
@@silentwolfkills3924 the fire reveals the part of the DNA letter that Bruce is Damian's father.
slide through the night like I'm Ra's Al Ghul
I really want Tim and Damien to become friends :(
I fucking hate how much Damian hates Tim Drake man, and going as far out as to making sure he gets no money whatsoever from the Wayne Fortune when he’s literally part of their family is just so bogus lol, as if he deserves it smfh 😤😠
I wish for number one you would have brought up the fact that he lied about being Harley Quinn’s nemeses. That would have been so funny.
5:53 did anyone else notice this was modded to show Damian perform deathstrokes special attack
This is Deadshot not Deathstroke .
@@arkhamtony3775 oh yeah your right
Don’t care what anyone say, he’s still my favorite DC hero
And my🙂
Mine as well.
He killed nightwing in injustice
You backstabber lol
Teach D.Berainman
That was an alternative universe
@@alexandersmith7061 😆 i know i just wanted to tease you a little...sorry hahaha
Stupid UA-cam just NOW notified me about this video
I wonder if Damien had some abandonment issues since his dad was never around. If so, any good comics to read?
Second Reason: “he lock villain.”
Frees Them and they live peacefully.
Needle: “…😡”
Awww he kept the baby alive, and it grew up too. C’mon dude give him some credit.
Even though you showed injustice 2 in the background you did not mention him killing dick out of anger in the first volume of injustice 1.
1:58 "could of". It's never "could of", it's "could have".
The worst thing Damian Wayne has done is replace Tim Drake as Robin. Tim still could've been Robin to this day but Morrison fucked that up and then Bendis nailed the coffin shut by rebranding him as Drake: The duck knight ffs.
No, he shouldn’t have at least tried to take down the Superboy clones without killing them, he did the right thing killing them.
Personally, I think what made the prison under the Titans Tower morally wrong is A) there a team who ALL pose a risk living above a prison of supervillains so Damian not saying anything about it is not only horribly reckless but selfish knowing they would object. B) not treating the in-prisoned well, even if they “deserve it” at least give them the decency of beds.
Besides that, I don’t think it’s all that bad so far as the Titans are unanimous on the subject and the prisoners are treated with dignity.
So what I'm getting here, is that Damian started the Coronavirus?
Yep
Na it's more like Wesker's plan
7:40 I’m curious if the Superboy clones were fully sentient beings (like Superboy), or merely mindless soldiers. The answer to that question would really determine whether Damian’s actions were justified.
“he did alot of bad things in his *short* life.”
*wait*
“Which Lantern corps should the Mortal Kombat characters be in?”
just because damina had his own prison doesn't make it wrong just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong. It wasn't wrong at all the police are worse. Whats illegal and wrong aren't the same as each other just because something is illegal doesn't make it wrong. It wasn't wrong at all to have his own prison the police prisons are worse.
literally superman has the phantom zone his own prison but when its damian yall give him shit for it
What if the Damian in batman beyond isn’t actually Damian it’s a clone or something
I think Damien and Jason Todd can team up on batman