Its crazy how sometimes Bruce is depicted as a flawed, but overall good enough father, and other times hes depicted as an abusive sociopath. Who lets people write him like this
There's one moment from the "Son of Batman" animated movie that I thought for sure would be on the list: Batman: "Heads up" *tosses shuriken directly at Damian's head *Damian catches it Batman: "Good reflexes" Damian: "And what if I had missed?" Bruce: "It would've hurt..." Bro!
Oh cm’on man Damian is not that bad in the animated movies but in Injustice though yea no hope he rot in jail I especially hated him when he taunts Batman for not knowing Supergirl existing.
Damian actually had Dick who loved him truly as a brother. Despite of the accidental death of Dick by Damian, in Injustice: Gods Among Us (the animated movie one), ghost-mode Dick called Damian “Little brother” sweetly when he offered Damian help to fight Damian’s grandpa. Dick was always there for Damian too.
To be as fair as I can to the worlds least capable parent, he had a pretty good start with everyone except him. Even Jason who literally tried to take his cars fuckin´ tires was less difficult!
jason todd was raised on the streets,damien was raised as a weapon by taila,ra's al ghul there's a difference ofc the kid who was forced to climb up mountains when he was 5 is gonna be more difficult.
People have to understand that Damian's the way he is because of all the bad influences. Bruce, Taila, Ra's, and being Robin. Really he seriously deserves so much more cause it's sad, he's always demonized even when everyone knows his life is trash.
Couldn’t agree more with u one thing that annoys me is Certain beliefs Damien should earn his place like he did but Tim forgets that the reason he had to earn his place was because Jason died. Damian on the other hand shouldn’t have too Not to mention it feels like Tim and all the others are forgetting that Damien was raised to be this way and raised on a pedestal. Tim shouldn’t in my opinions feel jealous of Damian in any way shape or form his own father ain’t there for him but Tim parents however wanted and love him and try to make up in spending more time with him. And here is the thing that’s crazy Damien had a fight his mother just so he could know who his father was.
@@bluedragonfox yeah but it would be nice if someone pointed that out and tried to help him instead of beat or fight him and same goes for the others helping each other
@@angelgon06 a lot of Tim's resentment towards Damian was insecurity but there were a few instances where Damian twisted the knife 🔪. The fanon might disagree but hey it's imo
@@Jheat75 Yeah from what I got or no is that tend to believe Damien should’ve earn his place and they’re love or Batman’s love like he did don’t get me don’t have anything against him I don’t like him but I also feel like him being older and working with that man for years that he should’ve thought that Damian is like this cuz of how he was raised.
I feel like most of these come down to bad writing and just wanting to create conflict. Batman should love all of his robins especially Damian and do everything in his power to help him live a better life. My favorite story with the two is in Batman and Robin Vol 1: Born to kill. As Bruce struggles to connect with Damian and just wants to “fix him” and Alfred tells him that he needs to be the boy’s father and not his mechanic. Also there’s a great scene where Damian is captured by “Nobody” and Batman basically looses control and damn near kills him for threatening his son, proving to Damian that his dad does indeed feels vengeful and angry sometimes too and how much he has to keep that anger in check (pretty much what Son of Batman was trying to say but never actually showed)
Yeah he didn't Damian has so much potential as character the writer's could've written him like Anakin and Zuko like he's constantly tortured and tempted by the darkside and almost gives in but then joins fully inbraces the light side.
I think Grant Morrison, Peter J. Tomasi, and Patrick Gleason have been great with the character. Joshua Williamson has also been doing well with the new solo series. It's just his other writers in Teen Titans and other projects that get more attention overall that have really screwed the character. It's a shame really because his growth in the aforementioned runs by the first three guys are what made me love Damian to begin with, and it feels as if DC is going out of their way to pretend as if all of that from some of their best writers just didn't matter.
@Guto agreed. TT Rebirth sucked imo. Though I will say on a side note, I like Robbie Thompson's work on Suicide Squad recently, I just did not like Teen Titans.
@@thatonkgau5221 Personally I feel like he was actually getting some good character in there until the whole thing with the Titans and Alfred’s desk they really decide to put all that character trait or redemption whatever it was down the toilet like he just went backwards. Kinda annoys me how dc did that.
I swear though, these actions that Batman takes against Damien (while some a little deserving) feels like the writer for Batman isn’t really following the ideals and decisions of Batman, the canon character.
the writer of "death in the family (comic)" actually hated how batman adopted kids to be superheroes and wanted to kill off jason todd, to teach batman a lesson, with the power of aids, but his request was denied until he was canonically killed off with the power of dynamite
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Batman’s speech to Damian about how he “really” felt towards him in Apokolips War. Granted, he was under the control of Darkseid but still, hearing that from your father still has to hurt a bit
It's weird to have the beating and say that Batman tried to kill Damian, when the actual kill command was what broke the mind control, and yet not have the degrading monologue
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 At least at times Goku tries to show good parenting by being by his kids side when they do need him either living or in spirit realm.
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 I mean, to be fair, Jotaro had to take care of the many remaining followers of DIO which could endanger many innocent people, along with rogue stand users.
I gotta disagree with you about the Injustice part. Yes Batman did blame Damian for killing Dick Grayson. However later in the story he did try to forgive him, but Damian wanted none of it. Sure Batman could’ve tried harder, but he did try.
@@kingzee9046 ?? what bro if damian didn’t want to be forgived then he shouldn’t be batman respected his decision he doesn’t have to try harder if he knows there’s no point -_-
Much better in terms of wanting to be father Rose even goingas far as pissing her so she wouldn't want anything to do with him. Slade also knows what each of them are doing, he may be emotionally fucked but he would without a doubt sacrificed his life for his children. That makes him somewhat or if not completely better than Bruce.
@@NeedleMouseProductions how about Jason Todd aka 2nd Robin to the new current now Red Hood & Tim Drake aka 3rd Robin to the new called Red Robin? May I ask can you please upload those well of did he done anything to them as well?
@@NeedleMouseProductions and may I ask have Alfred Pennyworth ever once as I saw in some of Batman's movies in real life to cartoon - animated movies & TV shows that he wants to leave Bruce Wayne AKA Batman's life permanently as some I did saw that he did intense to but he couldn't bared any fate suffering to the only family that he doesn't want to lose after the death of Thomas Wayne & Martha as well?
I agree. While Damian did kill Dick and it was his fault regardless if he meant to or not, Batman should have tried to patch things up with Damian instead of disown him. If Dick can forgive Damian, Batman should try to as well
Watching this just makes me feel more sad for Damian. In injustice, I cried when nightwing died and I loved how dick was able to forgive him even in death, aside from Bruce and Alfred, he’s always there for Damian. Also from JL: AW after being pushed away he’d still take a bullet for his father. He was more victim than he ever was, but kudos to needlemouse on this video.
I mean, if he did do that he probably would've had some blood on his hands don't ya think? The kid's gloves were spotless. World's greatest detective everyone!
Damian literally killed all Goliath’s race ( I think), he was trained by the league of assassins since birth PLUS Bruce’s training and all, pretty sure he can pull out a heart out of someone’s chest
In number #4: it also goes with saying that even tho Batman was being mind controlled, it was still pretty messed up for him to tell Damian that he was never his son, but instead only a burden
Actually sending him to the temple was the most fatherly thing he could do he took his youngest boy out of the fight so he could truly learn the way of peace. Damian’s main problem in those movies was the fact that he only knew the way the chaos/conquest and was way too eager to inherit the highest ranking mantels of his family.
Two moments I can think of are both Bruce unfairly disowning Damian the first time this happened was after Nightwing's death in the Injustice universe despite the fact Dick himself who by this point became the new Deadman(DeadWing) himself forgave Damian including giving him the Nightwing outfit, and actually confirm that his death was a accident, the 2nd time this happens is when Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing after the events of Joker War basically after Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing Bruce disowns both Jason, and Damian over their willingness to kill the criminals who deserve it even though Damian states that unlike Jason aka Outlaw he'll only consider killing as a method of last resort Bruce still disowns Damian simply cause Redwing is willing to consider killing as a option of last resort.
I have noticed that, in Batman vs Robin, when they fall through the glass roof and Bruce realized they were going to hit the statue, he grabs Damian and shields him from hitting the stone statue, which could have broken Bruce’s back, but Damian is to distracted by everything else going on to notice this action. It seems Batman cares more about protecting Robin then himself but, he doesn’t go about it the best way for any of them, and even if they’re physically unharmed there are still mental scars. Bruce isn’t even remotely close to being best father but at least he tries, at least when he’s not fight crime dressed as a giant bat. I don’t think Bruce really knows how to deal with his own trama healthily, what bad about that is he taught his children his unhealthy coping methods, Damian is the worst in this sense because one way he learns is by watching those around him, being raised as an assassin for 10 years in a place where emotions are likely seen as a vulnerability then living with his father who shows little to no emotion most of the time, it’s easy to understand why Damian is the way he is if you’re willing to take the time to try.
Your wrong about the last one Tim and Dick had loving parents who truly loved and cared about them Jason family hated him from birth hell he was sold out by his biological mother to the joker and his dad abused him so he and Damian both have bad childhoods
9:49 "Loving parents" Jason's parents were drug addicts. His father died in prison, and his mother overdosed. And Stephanie Brown's dad is the Cluemaster. (Edit: Don't take this comment seriously, I was trying to be ironic and funny and I failed. Sorry)
Damian Wayne: *exists* father.......please do your job and be my father Bruce Wayne: *ignores damian* Dick Grayson -in bludheaven-: why do i have the sudden need to complain about the thermostat and make bad puns and ruffling everyone's hair while calling them sport?
Batman doesn't kill Joker who's done so much to him, the family, and essentially the world in Injustice in hopes of being able to help the man but is so quick to disown his son over one accidental kill? Batman is way too flawed for his morals to be put on a pedestal by fans and writers
*Contains Spoilers* If people have read City of Bane, Damian's run of the Titans, the Lazarus Island arc and the Shadow War arc, you'll agree with the fact that no one other than Alfred and Dick have cared for Damien. Bruce never even bothered to celebrate his birthday like ever! The arcs I've mentioned above have led to the best Damian Wayne arcs in recent comics and make you want to smack the living s**t out of Bruce and Talia (Bruce way more so than Talia). Rather than comforting Damian after a changed Ra's's death, he nonchalantly blames him for Alfred's death (which was actually kind of Bruce's fault in the first place). At one point in the Lazarus Island arc, you literally see him admit that he has known very few things other than misery. It actually reminded me of broken Matt in Daredevil Season 3 who begged the random thugs to kill him.
Yeah..think about all the stuff he did under his grandfather and mother's rule...it' so much worst than what Bruce is accused of. You have to look at context, this kid was raised by the league of shadows.
Well if he was a good father Robins wouldn’t exist if the first place you can’t be a good father and bring people into a violent dangerous world to fight criminals and villains
@@killmonger5097 In our world, sure. But in the DC Earth, you can just train hard enough and you'll be able to dodge bullets and knock out people 3 times bigger than you with a single punch. Robin makes sense there.
Talia was very wrong to force herself upon Bruce. That’s one of the reasons I like Catwoman, and I know she’s got nothing to do with Damian, but I’ll respect any talia supporters.
I like Talia a lot too :( I just hate the fact that they used a storyline which was literally retconned...It made so many people hate her 😔 That and the fact that the writers never even mention the SA after that, like, ever. Just randomly put it in there for no reason. In og comics Damian was consentual, but she pretended to miscarry Damian or smth to Batman. I wished they used that storyline instead
@@eartht0ast755 In the terrible superhero father stakes Wolverine's worse than Batman. Guy's had so many kids over his long life he's either forgotten about, neglected, abandoned or killed.
Damien is a trained assassin that had an established history of throwing Dick's baton at him when he was frustrated or annoyed. He just got use to Dick always catching it. Unfortunately, given THAT particular set of circumstances, he doesn't get to say killing him was an accident. Now if it was Bruce (because of his cowl being armored), Jason (same reason) or literally ANY super human, that would be one thing. But against Dick, who NEVER wore a helmet aside from when he was impersonating Bruce, he doesn't get that defense. That's like Kazuya trying to kill Heihachi all his life only to throw him in that volcano and then say "Oh shit!"
I honestly relate yo Damian alot more than i thought my dad has always treated me as a daughter but sometimes he can be really cold to me to the point he doesn't seem to recognize im his daughter. I lost my mother to cancer last year i had been doing online for 2years yo be there for her wt home and seeing her in pain really hit hard. Im 13 and i now have to be a mother figure for my 5 year old baby sister and my dad seems to forgot ive been just watching my mother in pain without being able to help much. That shit took alot of processing in my brain its been barely 3 mo ths since i lost her and i dont know why but i always talked to her so ahe wouldn't be just laying in bed al the time now when i turn to talk to her because I want yo see how she doing i keep forgetting she passed and i randomly imagine shes there and talk to her. I honestly just keep forgetting that she passed and just think she went to the store or something and sometimes I am waiting for hours while doing online and then it hits me and i just end up going through her videos shed recird of my baby sis i even forgot her voice
This got me thinking. What if Billy batsin new why his mom didn't come find him. I mean having to grow up knowing that one minute you and your mom were having fun at a carnival then the next she's like "nah I don't want this child" and leaves you...like that would've taken a serious toll on his mental health! And i feel the same would probably happen to Damian if he was a normal kid. But yeah I always thought Bruce was a not-so-great father to his kids.
Batman disowning him for killing dick was reasonable but sure it was accident he still need to learn self control And it even worst that he joined Superman
@warwik Xio ho ho can’t wait until injustice 3 comes out when Damian finally finds that Superman the person he look up too like second dad is the person who put a hit on Alfred.
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 You need to follow the injustice comic for Alfred part. Damian has revived Alfred and I think Damian let Alfred to join Batman again (comic of Injustice 2) Also there is Injustice vs King of Multiverse where the heroes joined hand with He-Man. The main antagonist is Superman and Damian alongside Cyborg had defected themselves from Superman. The story is taking on the bad ending of Injustice 2. Ironically, when the first mission is to rescue Batman, Damian died by the hand of Wonder Woman. Fortunately, Batman is rescued in the overtime of Damian's deed In the comic of Injustice 2, Damian is the one to convince Jason to stop following the wrong deed of Rash-Al-Ghul completely Anyway, Damian is my number 1 favourite to be Robin. But for Batman's bat family member, it's Jason
I mean isn’t Batman vs robin about Batman trying to trust Damian enough and try to have a father and son relationship. True the ending of the film was a dumb idea but should the film be about Damian trying so hard to earn his fathers trust.
As much as we love batman… nobody ever said he would be a good father… how many kids did he take in to basically hunt down psychotic murderers? Lmao thats all he knows so he’s just passing down his traits
9:44 Actually, I think an argument can be made that Jason had a worse childhood. He was brought up in a home filled with drug addiction and abuse. He committed crime from when he was really young just so he can survive.
They would kill each other eventually.Both are similar and have tons of self hatred,people like them need people that are opposite to them to balance them out
Batman's partner argument thing might *sort of* worked if said partner was an established adult who he trained specifically to get out of situations like being captured like Dick or Tim. The issue here is that this partner was *his own damn son* and he decided to NOT rescue him. Geez why do some writers make Bruce the worst father on the planet?
To be fair, Damian was raised and trained by the Demon Ras for 10 years. Jason O Mara was such a great Bruce Wayne, it’s a shame Warner Bros replaced him after the newest flash point.
A child has no control over the circumstances of their birth thus they cannot be blamed for anything that happened. They didn't choose to be conceived but they were and the parents have a responsibility to take of that child or make sure it has a decent life. That means doing what's best for that child and Batman fails real hard at that lemme tell you. At times he can come off as a good parent but overall he ain't good.
I think the worst thing was not send the kid to therapy Damian since birth has been trained to be a killing machine put through physical and mental trauma seen things that no adult should see let alone a child raised in basically a ninja cult have his own mother and grandfather endorce this life style and force him into it becoming a social out cast by normal standards and eradicating any chance for him to live a normal life the second Batman got a hold of him he should have sent him to round the clock therapy and rehabilitation there's no way he's mentally stable one of the first things we see him do is go out and cut the head off a guy like it was expected of him he has by far the worst childhood of any of the Robins maybe of Sidekicks in general
I won't lie, I feel like had batman just given superman a hug instead of pulling the red solar grenade at the beginning of Injustice 2, he might've been able to stop him, or reach some sort of a breakthrough
I think it’s because he’s been Batman for so long and after failing all three robins, he has to do the opposite of what he did for them or that’s what he thinks Long story short he is more Batman than Bruce Wayne
"I know that he... troubles you, but he's here. And you need to get over the how and the why. Trust me on this -- this boy needs his father." - Bruce Wayne This is word for word what Bruce Wayne said to Clark Kent in order to get him to Man of Steel up, and work things out with Superboy in Season 1 of Young Justice. It's a shame the other versions of Bruce Wayne couldn't have taken this attitude with Damian; excluding the Bruce Wayne from The Brave and The Bold of course. I honestly didn't realize how similar Damian Wayne and Young Justice Superboy were to one another until I started rewatching Young Justice. Both of them were created from the D.N.A. of superheroes who did not give their consent, they were both given top notch educations, they were both conditioned by evil people, and they were both brought up to be living weapons. Granted, Young Justice Superboy is exponentially more likeable and sympathetic than Damian in many regards, but they both struggle with father figures, and they've had a hard time finding themselves. I honestly think that these two could have become great friends if they ever met. Although, given their tempers, they may try to kill each other on a few occasions. P.S. Did anybody see the costume Mal Duncan was wearing in the episode "Secrets" by any chance? He was dressed like the '90s version of Superboy. Mal told Conner point blank, "I'm Superman done right." Just seeing Conner's reaction was priceless.
5. I mean he had a bomb to take care of and as you guessed he assumed damian could take care of himself and is way more likely to be able to defend himself more than normal citizens.
"He is his father. And as such, Batman should not be hitting his son" Batman did more talking to that kid and it didn't work. Damain only respected fighting and bloodshed. He considered talking to be weakness. His grandfather is Ras Al'Ghoul. What kind of talking could stop Damian from being a brat? The only reason he started to calm down was because he started spending more time with Grayson - whom Damain also fought and also threw the first punch. He started to calm down AFTER fighting the 2 of them. Talking didn't do squat.
In the immortal words of Flashpoint Batman aka Thomas Wayne: I love my son but why did he raise my grandchildren like this!? Batman's parents reactions to what he does in response to their death do not help them rest easier. They feel like they failed to protect their son and they fear for their grandkids.... In short they're disappointed in Batman. Ironic. They would've preferred if their son had been a father not a crime fighter. Yet he did the EXACT opposite.... I love Batman but I think he should seriously get better parenting skills.
Batman is actually a very tough hero to love. Doesn’t kill any villains that do the worse to him/family. Doesn’t do anything for his son and treats him shitty (even tho I really don’t like Damian Wayne). Doesn’t do shit for Jason Todd and even protects joker from Jason. But I can’t help but loving the character.
Bruce: *helps everyone in any way he can, be it financially or through actively offering emotional support even to those who wronged him* Bruce when bad writers get a hand at him *abuses his fucking kids and sleeps with his son’s ex*
All the robins had loving parents? Tim's dad ended up abandoning him (I think Idk much about Tim Drake) and Jason was left on the streets. Jason's mother gave him up to the Joker and basically was the reason Jason died. Damian's mom and grandfather made him a weapon. While that's bad, would you rather be made a weapon or be given to a sadistic serial killer by your mother. Yeah. That's what I thought.
No wonder Damian has anger issues and u also feel bad for him for his whole life he was traini ed to be the best fighter in the world and and even when Batman takes care of him bro is still treated like a soldier and he never in Hilfenhaus really means to understand how love and compassion is
It feels like you’re taking stuff out of context while at the same time treating Damien like a normal kid when he’s not hes said that he was climbing mountains as a young child
I agree with everything except the injustice thing. Even though it was an accident you can’t throw something at someone and not dodge that object and they die from it. You can’t just say you thought they would dodge it
Batman is a bad father for reasons that make sense: He lost his own father while young, so never really learnt how to be a father from his own. Batman is; by nessecity due to being Batman, emotionally guarded and closed. Inherently bad father traits. And then you have the fact that every time he sees Damien; he's reminded of the fact he was drugged and raped which... yeah. You can totally understand *why* Batman fails as a father.
9:49 "At least the others had loving parents" thinking of Jason, Tim, Cassandra and Stephanie... Yeah, I'm not so sure about that Chief (and I don't know about Duke but I hope he had a good childhood)
Damian getting disowned by Batman in Injustice was entirely warranted, even so, Batman later on in the Injustice 2 comic does forgive Damian (and he obviously tells Batman to gfh).
Batman literally broke his arm,he resorted to breaking his arm which he had already broken in Year 4.Such injuries don't heal properly,he created a terrible weak spot in his son that might end up getting him killed
Its crazy how sometimes Bruce is depicted as a flawed, but overall good enough father, and other times hes depicted as an abusive sociopath. Who lets people write him like this
Well, how many people would think letting kids fighting people like the Joker is a good idea?
People with some serious DADDY ISSUES
Remember how In the frank miller books he made dick grayson eat rats
Who let them cook
@@ThePrincessCH what a retarded logic, most superheroes make their own children fight supervillains, but all you people do is hate on only batman
There's one moment from the "Son of Batman" animated movie that I thought for sure would be on the list:
Batman: "Heads up"
*tosses shuriken directly at Damian's head
*Damian catches it
Batman: "Good reflexes"
Damian: "And what if I had missed?"
Bruce: "It would've hurt..."
Bro!
Throwing stuff at each other’s heads seems to be a common bat family thing, even damian did it in Injustice
If he missed he would be dead he is not a great dad
@@highlander2319 Except that one hurt
@@highlander2319 right, batman thought him the wrong thing
If he failed then batman would be a certified villain,that doesn’t make much diference cuz he lefts joker live lol
I was expecting things like “neglect him” “beat him up” “abandon him”
But the first thing was “He let deathstroke drown him”. 😂😂
I would probably let Deathstroke do that too
C'mon Batman you could have do better than that
He was raped by talia. If he was batwhamin you’d be capping for him
@@jameslauren3100 why the fuck would u blame that on the child
Umm you know
When your saying beat him and and abandon him , i feel like your talking about someone else
Damian Wayne: Exists.
Batman: "So anyway, I started blasting."
Oh cm’on man Damian is not that bad in the animated movies but in Injustice though yea no hope he rot in jail I especially hated him when he taunts Batman for not knowing Supergirl existing.
The entire dc fanbase:
omni-man: refuses to kill his son after he realizes that he has an actual bondage with him
batman: *injures damian to near death* "lol u suck"
"Bondage" with him. Sounds so wrong 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
yeah but omniman beat invincible near to an inch of his life
He was mind controlled, so that doesn’t count.
It's darkseid's fault, not batman's. You guys are like teachers who blames kids that had little to no intervention in anything.
@@therealone_20 I’m not blaming Batman, I know it isn’t his fault.
Damian actually had Dick who loved him truly as a brother. Despite of the accidental death of Dick by Damian, in Injustice: Gods Among Us (the animated movie one), ghost-mode Dick called Damian “Little brother” sweetly when he offered Damian help to fight Damian’s grandpa. Dick was always there for Damian too.
He treated his adopeted children better than his actual child.
What a power move.
To be as fair as I can to the worlds least capable parent, he had a pretty good start with everyone except him. Even Jason who literally tried to take his cars fuckin´ tires was less difficult!
jason todd was raised on the streets,damien was raised as a weapon by taila,ra's al ghul there's a difference ofc the kid who was forced to climb up mountains when he was 5 is gonna be more difficult.
Needlemouse sounds like if he was Batman’s father telling him that he’s a bad dad 😂
Needlemouse is acting like Alfred pennyworth
Lol
@@monicalewis7572 He is Alfred, like, let's be honest here
Don’t worry, Bruce Wayne has money so nothing is really illegal to him.
@Zachary Ricketts touché
@Zachary Ricketts I mean, in some accounts he could pay his way out of a few things if he ever got caught…
@Zachary Ricketts not bribery paying yourself out of jail😎
@Zachary Ricketts There's like 2.5 non-corrupt cops in the GCPD, and they're mostly loyal to the Batman's cause.
People have to understand that Damian's the way he is because of all the bad influences. Bruce, Taila, Ra's, and being Robin. Really he seriously deserves so much more cause it's sad, he's always demonized even when everyone knows his life is trash.
Couldn’t agree more with u one thing that annoys me is Certain beliefs Damien should earn his place like he did but Tim forgets that the reason he had to earn his place was because Jason died. Damian on the other hand shouldn’t have too Not to mention it feels like Tim and all the others are forgetting that Damien was raised to be this way and raised on a pedestal. Tim shouldn’t in my opinions feel jealous of Damian in any way shape or form his own father ain’t there for him but Tim parents however wanted and love him and try to make up in spending more time with him. And here is the thing that’s crazy Damien had a fight his mother just so he could know who his father was.
@@angelgon06 idk right people just forget all about the background they just jumpp right in and read.
@@bluedragonfox yeah but it would be nice if someone pointed that out and tried to help him instead of beat or fight him and same goes for the others helping each other
@@angelgon06 a lot of Tim's resentment towards Damian was insecurity but there were a few instances where Damian twisted the knife 🔪. The fanon might disagree but hey it's imo
@@Jheat75 Yeah from what I got or no is that tend to believe Damien should’ve earn his place and they’re love or Batman’s love like he did don’t get me don’t have anything against him I don’t like him but I also feel like him being older and working with that man for years that he should’ve thought that Damian is like this cuz of how he was raised.
I feel like most of these come down to bad writing and just wanting to create conflict. Batman should love all of his robins especially Damian and do everything in his power to help him live a better life. My favorite story with the two is in Batman and Robin Vol 1: Born to kill. As Bruce struggles to connect with Damian and just wants to “fix him” and Alfred tells him that he needs to be the boy’s father and not his mechanic. Also there’s a great scene where Damian is captured by “Nobody” and Batman basically looses control and damn near kills him for threatening his son, proving to Damian that his dad does indeed feels vengeful and angry sometimes too and how much he has to keep that anger in check (pretty much what Son of Batman was trying to say but never actually showed)
Yeah he should know better
Honestly the worst thing ever done for Damian is just his writers my boy never have ANY justice of writing him.
Yeah he didn't Damian has so much potential as character the writer's could've written him like Anakin and Zuko like he's constantly tortured and tempted by the darkside and almost gives in but then joins fully inbraces the light side.
I think Grant Morrison, Peter J. Tomasi, and Patrick Gleason have been great with the character. Joshua Williamson has also been doing well with the new solo series. It's just his other writers in Teen Titans and other projects that get more attention overall that have really screwed the character. It's a shame really because his growth in the aforementioned runs by the first three guys are what made me love Damian to begin with, and it feels as if DC is going out of their way to pretend as if all of that from some of their best writers just didn't matter.
@Guto agreed. TT Rebirth sucked imo. Though I will say on a side note, I like Robbie Thompson's work on Suicide Squad recently, I just did not like Teen Titans.
@@thatonkgau5221 Personally I feel like he was actually getting some good character in there until the whole thing with the Titans and Alfred’s desk they really decide to put all that character trait or redemption whatever it was down the toilet like he just went backwards. Kinda annoys me how dc did that.
@@angelgon06 Hopefully he'll get better writting in the next reboot.
I swear though, these actions that Batman takes against Damien (while some a little deserving) feels like the writer for Batman isn’t really following the ideals and decisions of Batman, the canon character.
the writer of "death in the family (comic)" actually hated how batman adopted kids to be superheroes and wanted to kill off jason todd, to teach batman a lesson, with the power of aids, but his request was denied until he was canonically killed off with the power of dynamite
The writter of batman is just giving him plot armors he doesn’t care about logic and canon
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Batman’s speech to Damian about how he “really” felt towards him in Apokolips War. Granted, he was under the control of Darkseid but still, hearing that from your father still has to hurt a bit
Hell yeah! Man, that GOT TO ME!
It's weird to have the beating and say that Batman tried to kill Damian, when the actual kill command was what broke the mind control, and yet not have the degrading monologue
"He's a terrible father"
-NeedleMouse Productions 2021
Goku and Jotaro Kujo: I feel like we are being personally attack
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 At least at times Goku tries to show good parenting by being by his kids side when they do need him either living or in spirit realm.
Why do you think he gets Alfred to do most of the parenting? Alfred's a better father figure to the Robins than Bruce is.
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 I mean, to be fair, Jotaro had to take care of the many remaining followers of DIO which could endanger many innocent people, along with rogue stand users.
@@Xehanort10 well I wouldn't expect someone whose parents were gunned down in front of them to be a stable father figure but yeah keep attacking Bats
I gotta disagree with you about the Injustice part. Yes Batman did blame Damian for killing Dick Grayson. However later in the story he did try to forgive him, but Damian wanted none of it. Sure Batman could’ve tried harder, but he did try.
Doesn't change the fact that he did not try harder
Not the point. He disowned Damian first not try to be a parent serious Slade is a much better Father.
@@kingzee9046 ?? what bro if damian didn’t want to be forgived then he shouldn’t be batman respected his decision he doesn’t have to try harder if he knows there’s no point -_-
How is deathstroke a much better father he got his sons throat slit
Much better in terms of wanting to be father Rose even goingas far as pissing her so she wouldn't want anything to do with him. Slade also knows what each of them are doing, he may be emotionally fucked but he would without a doubt sacrificed his life for his children. That makes him somewhat or if not completely better than Bruce.
You started to sound really dad like at the end 😂😂
I know, I think I got a little too emotionally involved with the character lol
@@NeedleMouseProductions it’s all right
@@NeedleMouseProductions are you hinting at a certain something my good chap?
@@NeedleMouseProductions how about Jason Todd aka 2nd Robin to the new current now Red Hood & Tim Drake aka 3rd Robin to the new called Red Robin? May I ask can you please upload those well of did he done anything to them as well?
@@NeedleMouseProductions and may I ask have Alfred Pennyworth ever once as I saw in some of Batman's movies in real life to cartoon - animated movies & TV shows that he wants to leave Bruce Wayne AKA Batman's life permanently as some I did saw that he did intense to but he couldn't bared any fate suffering to the only family that he doesn't want to lose after the death of Thomas Wayne & Martha as well?
Originally the sex between Bruce and Talia that conceived him was consensual.
Then Grant Morrison retconned that and turned Talia into a relentless sociopath
@@rjdujon3320 Yep
@@rjdujon3320 The amount of hate I have for Morrison for doing that
I'm starting to think that Damien Wayne is Needlemouse's favorite robin
I’m not sure In his previous videos with Damian he never talked this way so he might be warming up to damians character
@Shinobi Prince I think so too...
Definitely not
If he is then I’m gonna unsubscribe
@@buffaloking2788 unsub
I do like Damian in most versions, but I hate him in the injustice universe. EDIT: In fact I don't really like that universe in general.
superman and wonder woman 🤮
@@connvics for real haha
I hate and love the injustice Damian Wayne at the same time and I don’t know why
@@monicalewis7572 I only like playing as him the games.
Honestly he was Ok when he meeted Supergirl,that was good for him,but anything else he sucks
I agree. While Damian did kill Dick and it was his fault regardless if he meant to or not, Batman should have tried to patch things up with Damian instead of disown him. If Dick can forgive Damian, Batman should try to as well
Watching this just makes me feel more sad for Damian. In injustice, I cried when nightwing died and I loved how dick was able to forgive him even in death, aside from Bruce and Alfred, he’s always there for Damian. Also from JL: AW after being pushed away he’d still take a bullet for his father. He was more victim than he ever was, but kudos to needlemouse on this video.
It's really hilarious that the world's greatest detective really thought that a 12-year old kid could reach into a guy's chest and pull out his heart.
Yeah an 11 year old kid who is trained to kill since birth by the most skilled man that Batman has fought
No no. He's got a point.
Are you forgetting he was bred to be an assassin?
I mean, if he did do that he probably would've had some blood on his hands don't ya think? The kid's gloves were spotless.
World's greatest detective everyone!
Damian literally killed all Goliath’s race ( I think), he was trained by the league of assassins since birth PLUS Bruce’s training and all, pretty sure he can pull out a heart out of someone’s chest
In number #4: it also goes with saying that even tho Batman was being mind controlled, it was still pretty messed up for him to tell Damian that he was never his son, but instead only a burden
He does have Dick Grayson who actually loves him as a brother
Actually sending him to the temple was the most fatherly thing he could do he took his youngest boy out of the fight so he could truly learn the way of peace. Damian’s main problem in those movies was the fact that he only knew the way the chaos/conquest and was way too eager to inherit the highest ranking mantels of his family.
5. Had him
Damn it you got to it before I could
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It’s not on him
6. Not Swallowing Him
@@ccelite3782 bro what 😟 you dont swollow your own seed wtf
Two moments I can think of are both Bruce unfairly disowning Damian the first time this happened was after Nightwing's death in the Injustice universe despite the fact Dick himself who by this point became the new Deadman(DeadWing) himself forgave Damian including giving him the Nightwing outfit, and actually confirm that his death was a accident, the 2nd time this happens is when Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing after the events of Joker War basically after Damian quits being Robin and becomes Redwing Bruce disowns both Jason, and Damian over their willingness to kill the criminals who deserve it even though Damian states that unlike Jason aka Outlaw he'll only consider killing as a method of last resort Bruce still disowns Damian simply cause Redwing is willing to consider killing as a option of last resort.
Damian Wayne has a father. His name is Dick Grayson.
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makes what happened in injustice hit harder.
I have noticed that, in Batman vs Robin, when they fall through the glass roof and Bruce realized they were going to hit the statue, he grabs Damian and shields him from hitting the stone statue, which could have broken Bruce’s back, but Damian is to distracted by everything else going on to notice this action. It seems Batman cares more about protecting Robin then himself but, he doesn’t go about it the best way for any of them, and even if they’re physically unharmed there are still mental scars. Bruce isn’t even remotely close to being best father but at least he tries, at least when he’s not fight crime dressed as a giant bat.
I don’t think Bruce really knows how to deal with his own trama healthily, what bad about that is he taught his children his unhealthy coping methods, Damian is the worst in this sense because one way he learns is by watching those around him, being raised as an assassin for 10 years in a place where emotions are likely seen as a vulnerability then living with his father who shows little to no emotion most of the time, it’s easy to understand why Damian is the way he is if you’re willing to take the time to try.
I just imagined Needlemouse as Alfred scolding Batman for not being a good father figure to Damian
Your wrong about the last one Tim and Dick had loving parents who truly loved and cared about them Jason family hated him from birth hell he was sold out by his biological mother to the joker and his dad abused him so he and Damian both have bad childhoods
9:49 "Loving parents" Jason's parents were drug addicts. His father died in prison, and his mother overdosed. And Stephanie Brown's dad is the Cluemaster. (Edit: Don't take this comment seriously, I was trying to be ironic and funny and I failed. Sorry)
He said others not all
@warwik Xio He said “loving parents”
Why are you twisting the question?
So you’re saying that Dick’s parents didn’t love him?
Neither did Barbara’s?
No parent is perfect tho-
@warwik Xio the "batman the animated series" Tim drake's back story was a copy of Jason's. In the comics his parents are alive and well...right?
I didn't read the comic but I bet you Jason Todds mom did love him, but her mental health was not it.
Damian Wayne: *exists* father.......please do your job and be my father
Bruce Wayne: *ignores damian*
Dick Grayson -in bludheaven-: why do i have the sudden need to complain about the thermostat and make bad puns and ruffling everyone's hair while calling them sport?
Batman doesn't kill Joker who's done so much to him, the family, and essentially the world in Injustice in hopes of being able to help the man but is so quick to disown his son over one accidental kill? Batman is way too flawed for his morals to be put on a pedestal by fans and writers
Bro i can't tell if you're joking
AcCiDenTal KiLl it doesn't matter lol
And for the other part that is just the part of his character bro that is literally what makes batman Literally
Batman always so fast when it comes to punishing his family. He has beaten jason harder than joker for killing penguin. Batmans a hypocrite :/
@@neverknowaboutthis9736 im starting to realize that tim and dick are definitely his favorites lmao
“At least all the others had loving parents and a life”
Jason Todd laughing in Crime Alley:
*Contains Spoilers*
If people have read City of Bane, Damian's run of the Titans, the Lazarus Island arc and the Shadow War arc, you'll agree with the fact that no one other than Alfred and Dick have cared for Damien. Bruce never even bothered to celebrate his birthday like ever!
The arcs I've mentioned above have led to the best Damian Wayne arcs in recent comics and make you want to smack the living s**t out of Bruce and Talia (Bruce way more so than Talia).
Rather than comforting Damian after a changed Ra's's death, he nonchalantly blames him for Alfred's death (which was actually kind of Bruce's fault in the first place). At one point in the Lazarus Island arc, you literally see him admit that he has known very few things other than misery. It actually reminded me of broken Matt in Daredevil Season 3 who begged the random thugs to kill him.
And let's not even get into what Talia did to him.
Because women can nevvvver be wrong. Right?
@@teamvault3350 Yeah bro gender equality for life.
Yeah..think about all the stuff he did under his grandfather and mother's rule...it' so much worst than what Bruce is accused of. You have to look at context, this kid was raised by the league of shadows.
@@shootingreal5945 honestly I was more talking about him getting raped and no one even cares
@@teamvault3350 Well that was telling about Talia state of mind..now think of that kind of person raising a child.
It's true Batman is a terrible father, not just to Damien but to the other robins too.
Well if he was a good father Robins wouldn’t exist if the first place you can’t be a good father and bring people into a violent dangerous world to fight criminals and villains
@@killmonger5097 true
@@killmonger5097 whatever you say
I think people make Batman mad in comics but they are bad it has put me off comics
@@killmonger5097 In our world, sure. But in the DC Earth, you can just train hard enough and you'll be able to dodge bullets and knock out people 3 times bigger than you with a single punch. Robin makes sense there.
Talia was very wrong to force herself upon Bruce. That’s one of the reasons I like Catwoman, and I know she’s got nothing to do with Damian, but I’ll respect any talia supporters.
Honestly, and just for a son too
I like talia alot but what she did there was wrong
I like Talia a lot too :( I just hate the fact that they used a storyline which was literally retconned...It made so many people hate her 😔 That and the fact that the writers never even mention the SA after that, like, ever. Just randomly put it in there for no reason. In og comics Damian was consentual, but she pretended to miscarry Damian or smth to Batman. I wished they used that storyline instead
No 1. Didn't send him to the orphanage
Five worst things Wolverine has done
1. Killed his own children
@@eartht0ast755 In the terrible superhero father stakes Wolverine's worse than Batman. Guy's had so many kids over his long life he's either forgotten about, neglected, abandoned or killed.
Damien is a trained assassin that had an established history of throwing Dick's baton at him when he was frustrated or annoyed. He just got use to Dick always catching it. Unfortunately, given THAT particular set of circumstances, he doesn't get to say killing him was an accident. Now if it was Bruce (because of his cowl being armored), Jason (same reason) or literally ANY super human, that would be one thing. But against Dick, who NEVER wore a helmet aside from when he was impersonating Bruce, he doesn't get that defense.
That's like Kazuya trying to kill Heihachi all his life only to throw him in that volcano and then say "Oh shit!"
I honestly relate yo Damian alot more than i thought my dad has always treated me as a daughter but sometimes he can be really cold to me to the point he doesn't seem to recognize im his daughter. I lost my mother to cancer last year i had been doing online for 2years yo be there for her wt home and seeing her in pain really hit hard. Im 13 and i now have to be a mother figure for my 5 year old baby sister and my dad seems to forgot ive been just watching my mother in pain without being able to help much. That shit took alot of processing in my brain its been barely 3 mo ths since i lost her and i dont know why but i always talked to her so ahe wouldn't be just laying in bed al the time now when i turn to talk to her because I want yo see how she doing i keep forgetting she passed and i randomly imagine shes there and talk to her. I honestly just keep forgetting that she passed and just think she went to the store or something and sometimes I am waiting for hours while doing online and then it hits me and i just end up going through her videos shed recird of my baby sis i even forgot her voice
This got me thinking. What if Billy batsin new why his mom didn't come find him. I mean having to grow up knowing that one minute you and your mom were having fun at a carnival then the next she's like "nah I don't want this child" and leaves you...like that would've taken a serious toll on his mental health! And i feel the same would probably happen to Damian if he was a normal kid. But yeah I always thought Bruce was a not-so-great father to his kids.
Always thought that Billy mother was a huge bitch in shazam movie.
Good thing he didn't take his pants.
-Dick and Jason
This was needed
Agreed
Yeah-
Don't forget how Batman roasted the hell out of Damian before fighting him in Apokalips War
I wouldn't exactly say Jason had loving parents
Batman disowning him for killing dick was reasonable but sure it was accident he still need to learn self control
And it even worst that he joined Superman
That's why you need to TEACH your kid self-control, not cast him out and hope he learns on his own.
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@@matti.8465 Bro he literally accidentally killed his Brother And Joined a Pyscho Blood thirsty Superman please
@warwik Xio ho ho can’t wait until injustice 3 comes out when Damian finally finds that Superman the person he look up too like second dad is the person who put a hit on Alfred.
@@theguythatonlylikesmainpro0816 You need to follow the injustice comic for Alfred part. Damian has revived Alfred and I think Damian let Alfred to join Batman again (comic of Injustice 2)
Also there is Injustice vs King of Multiverse where the heroes joined hand with He-Man. The main antagonist is Superman and Damian alongside Cyborg had defected themselves from Superman. The story is taking on the bad ending of Injustice 2. Ironically, when the first mission is to rescue Batman, Damian died by the hand of Wonder Woman. Fortunately, Batman is rescued in the overtime of Damian's deed
In the comic of Injustice 2, Damian is the one to convince Jason to stop following the wrong deed of Rash-Al-Ghul completely
Anyway, Damian is my number 1 favourite to be Robin. But for Batman's bat family member, it's Jason
I mean isn’t Batman vs robin about Batman trying to trust Damian enough and try to have a father and son relationship. True the ending of the film was a dumb idea but should the film be about Damian trying so hard to earn his fathers trust.
You forgot to mention how The Batman Who Laughs turned his damian into a pet mini-joker after gunning down the bat family in his world.
As much as we love batman… nobody ever said he would be a good father… how many kids did he take in to basically hunt down psychotic murderers? Lmao thats all he knows so he’s just passing down his traits
9:44 Actually, I think an argument can be made that Jason had a worse childhood. He was brought up in a home filled with drug addiction and abuse. He committed crime from when he was really young just so he can survive.
It would be cool to see Damian be Red hoods apprentice
They would kill each other eventually.Both are similar and have tons of self hatred,people like them need people that are opposite to them to balance them out
Batman's partner argument thing might *sort of* worked if said partner was an established adult who he trained specifically to get out of situations like being captured like Dick or Tim. The issue here is that this partner was *his own damn son* and he decided to NOT rescue him. Geez why do some writers make Bruce the worst father on the planet?
“It’s to talk to them and deescalate the situation”
Oh so like
*THINK DAMIAN*
To be fair, Damian was raised and trained by the Demon Ras for 10 years. Jason O Mara was such a great Bruce Wayne, it’s a shame Warner Bros replaced him after the newest flash point.
Does anybody else feel like Needlemouse would be a great dad?
I reread the injustice comics and I learned that Dick Grayson convinces Batman to forgive Damian and he does try to patch things up.
jasons dad died and his mother was stuck on pills and jason lived on the streets so jason got it hard to as a kid.
I really want to see a batman story where he is a capable and responsible father, or at least one who is trying to be.
Needle Mouse please cover one with Jason Todd because he's another one who's miss guided
Honestly when it comes to relationships between members of the Batfamily the writing is always all over the place
You should make a video talking about everytime hal Jordan has worn a different ring than the green
1.fear lantern (injustice)
2.Red lantern
3.blue lantern
A child has no control over the circumstances of their birth thus they cannot be blamed for anything that happened. They didn't choose to be conceived but they were and the parents have a responsibility to take of that child or make sure it has a decent life. That means doing what's best for that child and Batman fails real hard at that lemme tell you. At times he can come off as a good parent but overall he ain't good.
9:49
Jason Todd: are you sure about that
Ikr
I think the worst thing was not send the kid to therapy Damian since birth has been trained to be a killing machine put through physical and mental trauma seen things that no adult should see let alone a child raised in basically a ninja cult have his own mother and grandfather endorce this life style and force him into it becoming a social out cast by normal standards and eradicating any chance for him to live a normal life the second Batman got a hold of him he should have sent him to round the clock therapy and rehabilitation there's no way he's mentally stable one of the first things we see him do is go out and cut the head off a guy like it was expected of him he has by far the worst childhood of any of the Robins maybe of Sidekicks in general
Batman is a better father in Harley Quinn as a joke than he's normally portrayed and that's kinda sad
I won't lie, I feel like had batman just given superman a hug instead of pulling the red solar grenade at the beginning of Injustice 2, he might've been able to stop him, or reach some sort of a breakthrough
When he said talk to them, I swore he said torture them
I nearly died lmao
Damian Has Been Neglected By Bruce Time and Time Again
I think it’s because he’s been Batman for so long and after failing all three robins, he has to do the opposite of what he did for them or that’s what he thinks
Long story short he is more Batman than Bruce Wayne
"I know that he... troubles you, but he's here. And you need to get over the how and the why. Trust me on this -- this boy needs his father." - Bruce Wayne
This is word for word what Bruce Wayne said to Clark Kent in order to get him to Man of Steel up, and work things out with Superboy in Season 1 of Young Justice. It's a shame the other versions of Bruce Wayne couldn't have taken this attitude with Damian; excluding the Bruce Wayne from The Brave and The Bold of course.
I honestly didn't realize how similar Damian Wayne and Young Justice Superboy were to one another until I started rewatching Young Justice. Both of them were created from the D.N.A. of superheroes who did not give their consent, they were both given top notch educations, they were both conditioned by evil people, and they were both brought up to be living weapons. Granted, Young Justice Superboy is exponentially more likeable and sympathetic than Damian in many regards, but they both struggle with father figures, and they've had a hard time finding themselves. I honestly think that these two could have become great friends if they ever met. Although, given their tempers, they may try to kill each other on a few occasions.
P.S. Did anybody see the costume Mal Duncan was wearing in the episode "Secrets" by any chance? He was dressed like the '90s version of Superboy. Mal told Conner point blank, "I'm Superman done right." Just seeing Conner's reaction was priceless.
Honestly I hope if batman doesn't accept Damian in young justice super man tells him that.
"Your parents died and left you Bruce. What's your excuse for not being a father?"
5. I mean he had a bomb to take care of and as you guessed he assumed damian could take care of himself and is way more likely to be able to defend himself more than normal citizens.
Don't give up and never give in
"He is his father. And as such, Batman should not be hitting his son" Batman did more talking to that kid and it didn't work. Damain only respected fighting and bloodshed. He considered talking to be weakness. His grandfather is Ras Al'Ghoul. What kind of talking could stop Damian from being a brat? The only reason he started to calm down was because he started spending more time with Grayson - whom Damain also fought and also threw the first punch. He started to calm down AFTER fighting the 2 of them. Talking didn't do squat.
I dont usually like to ask requests but I think an interesting video could be "5 worst things Amanda Waller/Cadmus has done"
Keep it up on your work and this channel
In the immortal words of Flashpoint Batman aka Thomas Wayne: I love my son but why did he raise my grandchildren like this!? Batman's parents reactions to what he does in response to their death do not help them rest easier. They feel like they failed to protect their son and they fear for their grandkids....
In short they're disappointed in Batman. Ironic. They would've preferred if their son had been a father not a crime fighter. Yet he did the EXACT opposite....
I love Batman but I think he should seriously get better parenting skills.
Batman is actually a very tough hero to love. Doesn’t kill any villains that do the worse to him/family. Doesn’t do anything for his son and treats him shitty (even tho I really don’t like Damian Wayne). Doesn’t do shit for Jason Todd and even protects joker from Jason. But I can’t help but loving the character.
He didn’t send him to live alone he sent away to a school so he can learn
Yeah, and it was Damian’s decision not his
He literally had to sent him to a school cause he doesn't understand that emotional shit.
Too busy being a giant bat
Bruce: *helps everyone in any way he can, be it financially or through actively offering emotional support even to those who wronged him*
Bruce when bad writers get a hand at him *abuses his fucking kids and sleeps with his son’s ex*
All the robins had loving parents? Tim's dad ended up abandoning him (I think Idk much about Tim Drake) and Jason was left on the streets. Jason's mother gave him up to the Joker and basically was the reason Jason died. Damian's mom and grandfather made him a weapon. While that's bad, would you rather be made a weapon or be given to a sadistic serial killer by your mother. Yeah. That's what I thought.
No wonder Damian has anger issues and u also feel bad for him for his whole life he was traini ed to be the best fighter in the world and and even when Batman takes care of him bro is still treated like a soldier and he never in Hilfenhaus really means to understand how love and compassion is
It feels like you’re taking stuff out of context while at the same time treating Damien like a normal kid when he’s not hes said that he was climbing mountains as a young child
I don’t know who he did worse with Damian or Jason because both of them did not have a good childhood before Batman took them in.
I agree with everything except the injustice thing. Even though it was an accident you can’t throw something at someone and not dodge that object and they die from it. You can’t just say you thought they would dodge it
you have a point, i like damian and all. But he's a bit messed up
Jason see this he would be like "well I will have a chat with that old man soon."
if my child was a trained assassin and he hit me….we’re fighting.
Keep it up on this channel
Canon (badly written) Batfamily: *exists*
Me: So anyway in Wayne Family Adventures-
Batman is a bad father for reasons that make sense:
He lost his own father while young, so never really learnt how to be a father from his own.
Batman is; by nessecity due to being Batman, emotionally guarded and closed. Inherently bad father traits.
And then you have the fact that every time he sees Damien; he's reminded of the fact he was drugged and raped which... yeah.
You can totally understand *why* Batman fails as a father.
Nice video
He does offer in injustice to come back to him but he said he’d never be Robin again… so Batman beats him up in about 1 second.
Hi I am a big fan good video
Batman’s honestly such a weirdo
9:49 "At least the others had loving parents" thinking of Jason, Tim, Cassandra and Stephanie... Yeah, I'm not so sure about that Chief (and I don't know about Duke but I hope he had a good childhood)
I love the background music you use dk why it goes with your videos
Damian getting disowned by Batman in Injustice was entirely warranted, even so, Batman later on in the Injustice 2 comic does forgive Damian (and he obviously tells Batman to gfh).
Batman literally broke his arm,he resorted to breaking his arm which he had already broken in Year 4.Such injuries don't heal properly,he created a terrible weak spot in his son that might end up getting him killed
@@newhybrid101 good, it’d do the world a favor.