I love every scene with Willem Dafoe. They took multiple takes with one take being he knew, another being he suspects, and another that he doesn't suspect at all. They then combined all the takes to make it so the audience could never tell what the character was thinking, and it just gives that weird feeling.
Rather than believing that none of it really happened, I always choose to believe that all of it DID happen, but that Patrick is surrounded by people who are actually every bit as cold, psychotic, and inhuman as he is. So when the realtor found Paul's apartment full of corpses, she simply had them disposed of and repainted the place so she could sell it. And when Patrick openly refers to killing and maiming women, everyone around him is too self-involved to care or even notice. And so that's why Patrick decides that his "confession has meant nothing" - because he realizes that he's not special, and not different from the people around him.
Though there are, of course, exceptions when seeing the people who aren't as rich as Patrick and his contemporaries - his secretary, the sex workers, and even the homeless man all exhibit actual human emotions and behavior. Which is where the satire/criticism comes back into play, suggesting that certain wealthy lifestyles breed psychos by the dozen. :)
@Tinker Belle the whole point was that everyone is so self absorbed with themselves that they can't tell what's happening around them and they don't bother to care.
the best parts with Patrick and the detective is there were 3 takes done where the detective knows Patrick is the killer one where he doesn't and one where he suspects he is the killer and all the takes are edited together to confuse the viewer!
Fun Fact: The reason Willem Dafoe’s character seems to shift perspectives so much is because the director filmed each of his scenes 3 times: once as if he knew Patrick was guilty, once as if he wasn’t sure, and once as if he knew Patrick was innocent. Then, they mixed and matched the reactions for the shots.
Everybody in this movie is so completely superficial and self-absorbed I think that nobody notices Patrick repeatedly confessing to being a psychopathic serial killer. Though this is also a classic example of the unreliable narrator so who knows what's really happening and what's not.
The fact that this was a satire on the excesses of the yuppy culture in the 80's was lost on a lot of people. The novel written by Bret Easton Ellis (who also wrote Less Than Zero), was viewed as sexist violence. But over time people have been able to see it as what is was.
It’s still sexist and homeless people violence. I really don’t see any lesson learned except people in power can get away with anything they please cause people won’t believe them
It went into the '90s too. Not late-'90s or 2000 of course, but I remember it all lingering as late as mid-'90s. Maybe it wasn't far removed enough in time for people to compartmentalize it, I'm theorizing.
Most of the other actors on set like Josh Lucas thought Bale was doing a terrible job, didn't understand what the director saw in him...until they saw the finished product and realized how brilliant his performance of a performance was. He had to go beyond everyone's superficial performance of superficial of superficial people without crossing over into purely comedic satire. This is the true Bruce Wayne.
I have been teaching both the novel and movie a few times, and it is definitely possible to interpret both in multiple ways. As the movie and novel criticize and satirize capitalism and materialism to a large extent, when Bateman visits Paul Allen's apartment at the end of the film, it is very likely that the owners of Paul Allen's apartment building have simply renovated the place completely and removed any trace of the bodies in order to maximize the profit of selling the apartment again after Paul Allen's death. The value of the place would take a significant hit if it was known as the apartment of a serial killer's rampage, which is why the real estate agent is so suspicious during her conversation with Bateman. As you also point out during the film, most of the characters have trouble recognizing other people and often mistake people for someone else, which is even more pronounced in the novel. I do think that Bateman's lawyer is simply mistaken someone else for Paul Allen, just like Paul Allen mistakes Patrick Bateman for Marcus Halberstram. Again, it is possible to interpret these things in many different ways, so this is simply my two cents! I always enjoy your very genuine reactions! Keep it up!
Its amazing, If he did do the murders (or at least SOME of them) it also is showing how the rich and powerful aren't held accountable for their actions. Funny enough if you think he didn't do it there is a ton more to dissect about what went down on a psychological level and why, I think that's what makes it amazing cause if you believe he did it or not each side has something to say.
@@jojivlogs3697 - Absolutely! This is also one of the reasons why no one pays attention to what Patrick is telling them. He states multiple times that he is a deranged serial killer, but people corrupted by materialism only hear what they want to hear. Or, at least, that is something one could potentially argue. And yes! If he did not commit any of them, the film works on a very different level.
its not possible to interpret both ways because the movie makes it clear he is hallucinating. if you look at the scene where he is dragging the bag he has a trial of blood behind him but when it he leaves the door the trail dissappears and obviously the feed me a stray cat was a hallucination too and its all too ridiclous to be actually occuring like he didnt drop a chainsaw through many floors killing a girl with it thats insane and no one in the building noticed? also how he killed the janitor and the receptionist and then the next day he goes out and the helicopters disappear like nothing happened? it definetly is all in his head and you can see that also in his book everything he imagined was drawn including the chainsaw on the girl and everyone says that patrick is such a dork because he actually is he is really mentally ill and imagining everything and everyone notices how ridiculous he acts
@@Aemond-qj4xt - I disagree with you on the fact that the movie can only be interpreted in the way that you suggest. However, I do agree with you that your interpretation is one way of viewing the film, which is perhaps equally good to other suggestions. To claim, however, that this is the only way to view the film is a detriment to the enormous strength of the material, both novel and film. Bateman is most likely hallucinating some of it, including the scene with the cat and the police officers, but to think that all of it is one big hallucination because of mental illness feels very much against Bret Easton Ellis’s philosophy, and how Mary Harron approached the film when she was directing it. The film is very much being coy on purpose, leaving traces and clues to suggest multiple interpretations, which is why it is so great-in my opinion…
@@Philip-Poulsen how do you explain the blood trail disappearing? That's a hint that it's all a hallucination because it doesn't make any sense that the blood trail only is a hallucination
My understanding of the ending when I first saw it was that the lawyer is pretending to have had dinner with Paul Allen in London in order to clear Patrick's name. I felt like that's why Patrick's relieved when he realises what he is implying and is jolly at the table. But now I'm confused too. 😕
Seeing how they counfuse people's names all around because they all look the same, chances are the lawyer had dinner with another guy he though he was Paul Allen
My interpretation of the ending is that Patrick's CEO father covered up everything. The realtor was an "agent" of Patrick's dad and was there to facilitate the coverup. That's why she seemed so cold and weird. It was like a foreign spy giving him the signal "I suggest you go....and don't come back." It was another way of saying "We got this under control. Stay away from here if you don't want to get caught." Also Patrick's lawyer said "He had dinner with Paul Allen twice in London so it's not possible." What if his lawyer was trying to stay on script?
The line about his father being the head of the company, he can do anything he likes by Reese Witherspoon's character is the most important line in the film...
I think the old woman was just trying to sell Paul Allen's old apartment and didn't want it being known that people were killed there. So, being more concerned with selling than getting justice for the victims, she would just rather help the murderer get away with it.
Both the book and movie are meant to be ambiguous as to whether he did the murders or not. The director more leaned towards he did the murders (well some of them, before he totally loses his grip on reality). Also the people around Patrick are so self absorbed that they wouldn't notice or care, even if Patrick did murder people.
Fun fact: The director asked Dafoe to perform three separate times. In the first take, Dafoe was told that his character knew Bateman was the killer, in the second he was told to be suspicious, and in the third, he was totally oblivious. Later, in the editing of each of these interviews, the takes were spliced together to keep the audience at a loss to the detective’s suspicions, for at one moment he seemed accusing and the next a close friend. Also every one including Reese Witherspoon were worried that Christian Bale wasn’t a big enough name or a good enough actor to play this role. He definitely proved them wrong!
The author from the book that was based off said it's all real. Bateman has problems and hallucination but he did killed people. People ignore his confessions because Bateman lives in a materialistic society that only cares about status and appearances, making everyone literally being the same person(you can notice how not just the cards but the outfits of Bateman friends and their wives). The woman in Paul's apartment got rid of all the bodies there so she could sell the apartment and the lawyer, just like many other characters in the film he mixes up people, and for what we know the Paul Allen who dies couldn't even be the real one and he just mixed up. Despite the title, the real monster isn't Bateman the people around him, the society he lives in that's so disturbing and distorted that makes everyone around him equally as horrible
Bateman killing the dog was so traumatizing Just hearing it screaming in pain was enough to haunt my dreams And the worst part is that I can't tell whether the dog died instantly or if it took hours to die out
@Vae Victis It was a small dog Bateman stomped at it. Do you know what it feels like to break a bone? How about multiple bones breaking at the same time?
@@MamadNobari Where do you come to the conclusion a person who feels bad for the dog, does not care about human deaths? Why can't someone show compassion for an animal without someone getting bent out of shape? Frankly you are the one that needs to learn empathy....
@@MamadNobari Because dogs and children activate our need to protect, they depend on humans and have a quality of innocence. That is why them being hurt on screen triggers emotions......Even the YT channel creator mentioned he did not like the cat being fed to the ATM....it is normal human compassion to protect what we deem as innocent and weak. A grown ass man, is not any of those things......Men often feel the need to protect woman and children over other men.....it is human instinct.
The reason that William Defoe scene was so touching is because they filmed it three times one where William knew Bateman was the killer one where he was suspecting he was the killer and one where he was completely oblivious to Bateman being the killer then they added them all together so you never really knew, they tried using most the oblivious scene when giving out the most evidence leading to Patrick being the killer so us viewers never knew what was happening
If you enjoy "pop punk"music there's a song by an American band called "The Front Bottoms" which makes me think of when you say the word "bussy", but also they have a song called "The Boredom is the Reason I Started Swimming. It’s Also the Reason I Started Sinking", and it makes reference to several of the internal monologues portrayed in both the book and movie versions of American Pyscho.
Lol this movie is wild. I remember loving it when I was a teenager (mainly because of the actors in it) but I still hate the dog killing scene. The way Patrick says "No, Luis. It's not me. You're mistaken." still makes me laugh lmao. I'm the same way about the cat part too. 😅
the Willem Dafoe questioning scenes with Bale was shot three times each, one where he acted as if he didn't know if batman killed, one as if he suspected him, and one as if he fully knew, then they chopped them up and mixed them to keep you guessing.
Fun fact: When casting for the film, Christian Bale met with the author Bret Easton Ellis and introduced himself as Patrick Bateman, as well as acting out all of his character traits and mannerism. Bret was so uncomfortable he asked him to stop after 10 minutes
I think this movie is satire on the rich and society as well. When he was speaking crazy stuff, the other people didn't hear it because people have a perception of what people like Bateman would say. You are so right about this being very similar to Joker. I had not thought about that. But I loved how they showed the normal and the crazy and how fine of line it is. It's up to the viewer to define their viewing experience.
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fun fact, in the scene where Willem Dafoe is cross-examining Cristian Bale they did several takes where Willem acted like Detective Kimball knew he killed Paul Allen, one where he wasn't sure Bateman killed Paul Allen and one where he didn't know he killed Paul Allen and stitched them together, so it gives the viewer complete uncertainty on what the detective actually thinks
You should watch The Rules of Attraction, based on a book by the same author, one of the main characters is the younger brother of Patrick Bateman. Tremendous movie. Not for everyone but knowing you I think you'd really get a kick out of it.
im sure that someone has already said this but the interrogation scene was shot three different ways. one where kimble suspects bateman, one where he's unsure, and one where he doesn't suspect him. they then spliced moments from each version and made a scene where you can't tell exactly what the interrogator is thinking.
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I think the point of the movie is the fact that nothing happened to Patrick Bateman even after his confession. He’s a vile character and yet people turned a blind eye because he’s a rich attractive businessman. I may be wrong but that’s how I viewed it
A film like this is not for everyone but I liked it, however only for a one time watch. As usual, your reactions are what really made the video entertaining, Seb. On another subject, when are you going to do another Chris Evans movie reaction? I miss your thirst comments about him. They always make me roll over laughing. 🤣
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. This is a masterpiece movie. Lots of controversy when it came out, and I cheered and laughed in the theatres. Almost as crazy and brutal as the book...
Oh this is American classic, Bale is a top tier performer I'm loving this video I swear the reactions are so genuine and cool I could literally watch this show all day lol *that laugh is too much😆
The lawyer was covering for him The way lawyers sometimes do. His father owns the company and k ows his sons a liability so the lawyer cleaned but the scene and prepared him an alibi . He was trying to get out of there without breaking character as his lawyer . His father would be over if this was ever out so the lawyer essentially is hired “ cleanup” for whatever Patrick gets into . That’s what I heard a long time ago from an interview a few years after its released
The point is you aren't supposed to know if any of it happened , Maybe some murders are real or some aren't, who knows? There's actually a lot to take from the movie, the psychological stuff etc. If you believe he did do the murders and it all was a cover up then the theme of the movie is how being rich and powerful doesn't hold you accountable to your actions. If the murders didn't happen then its about the social pressures of a life like that and how it can screw with you mentally, the literal façade you have to put on, he's in reality a loser and this is the way he copes in his head, but hes mentally sick so he doesn't know what's real, That's why when he spouts crazy stuff in front of people they don't seem to react cause its in his head. I'm sure there's lots to dissect and even more arguments for each side and what they mean, But that's what makes the movie so good.
If you like Christian Bale's acting so much, you should watch his first American movie "Empire of the Sun". A hidden gem directed by an early Steven Spielberg from 1987.
When I saw this movie the first time, I thought it all happened, and didn't understand the ending, but on my second rewatch, I formed my own conclusion that P.B suffers from some personality disorder, where he invasions himself doing all of these things, and then when he snaps out of his "second personality" he believes that he has done what he did in his visions.
this movie is so crazy in what it whats you to think that they literally had Willem Dafoe record his interrogation lines 3 separate times in 3 different ways, one where he knew what Bateman did, one where he had no idea, and one where he didnt care i think was the last one and then mixed all 3 up so that you wouldnt know what he was thinking
Willem Dafoe shot all of his scenes 3 times with different body language in each take. One take being none suspecting of Patrick, one take being suspicious of Patrick abd one take already knowing what Patrick has done. The editors then spliced parts of all 3 takes together in each of his scenes so every time the camera cuts back to Dafoe we as the audience can never tell for sure what his impression of Patrick really is overall. I might not have explained this very clearly but its an ingenious way of filming an interrogation scene that i wish more film makers would use.
I've seen this movie maybe 10 times and I still don't know what actually happened. And I think that's what the director wanted, ambiguity. One thing that was certain was the dark humor hit on target every time. It took the edge off how morbidly psychotic Patrick was. I think I like not knowing exactly what happened. This was a fun watch, subscribed.
The writer confirmed that he did in fact kill all of those people but everyone is so self centered around him and his job that they simply to not care: example the lady who remodeled Paul Allen’s apartment took the body’s out and repainted and put together that Patrick came back to tend to the bodies hense her asking to not start any trouble.
At 11:45, As one person commented on another person's reaction, "The Green Goblin is questioning Batman about the disappearance of the Joker... WTF ?!?? "
The book is even more disturbing & I LOVE the book!! So if you love to read, it’s a very good book! And I really really hope you get a 100k subscribers before your birthday. 🎉 I will do what I can to make it happen.
The movie is basically a satire of 1980s Wall Street greed and materialism. Any one of those rich guys could be like Patrick Bateman. Lewis, the guy who comes to out Patrick, is probably the only guy who isn't a complete psychopath. I like to think that most of the most is just Patrick's hallucination, which further drives home the point that any one of those Wall Street guys could be a psychopath and that whatever hallucination Patrick is having the rest of that group is having as well. It works really well as social commentary. Otherwise, if it "really happened" within the context of the movie, all the social commentary makes a lot less sense, because it's basically just a standard late 90s-early 2000s horror movie about a homicidal manic whose motivations aren't really explained except that this is who he is and that's all there is to it. If you want another weird, psychological thriller movie, Eyes Wide Shut was Stanley Kubrick's last film, released posthumously. It's not just a raunchy, over the top softcore porn movie, it's also social commentary on secret societies and all that stuff. It's definitely creepy.
Well there is still a commentary If he did do it, Basically its showing that the rich and powerful aren't held accountable for their actions, Having a company go so far to get rid of the traces of the murders just so they can keep profits. Its not as deep as if he didn't murder, but its something, And I'm sure there's more then just that for the murdering side of it.
The filmmakers actually stated that the ending was real and he did kill those people, however, he would not be jailed because of his high place in society
Admit it people. We want the "American dream" one day, and the "American Psycho" dream next. "They don't have a good bathroom to do cocaine in." "Yep, that's a problem. Let's go somewhere else." 😀😀
Don't worry, it is okay to laugh. The director and Christian bale both stated that it is a dark comedy, even though it has really disturbing stuff in it. They both laughed their asses off at certain scenes during the premiere, while a lot of the audience didn't know how they should react.
The book is more gory, and also ends unclearly. I read the author was implying that most of it did happen, but Bateman got away with it because everyone looks the same and are entirely selfish, superficial characters. It's an observation on yuppy culture in the 80s. Bale is fantastic as ever and this was his major breakthrough role.
So I just recently watched it and I have heard from many people that it was a dark comedy, and have seen many dark comedies before, but nothing in this movie, would I ever consider to be that. It was a deeply disturbing film.
you should watch THE RULES OF ATTRACTION. one of the main characters is patrick bateman’s brother. it’s nothing like this though. its like an indie drama
Basically, it was a comment on the egos and shallow nature of that world. People accidentally gave him alibis because they dont know who he is. They are all so self absorbed. With the apartment, they didnt want to say there were dead people there etc etc so they will sell the apartment. Hence why they said not to cause trouble. It was all real. The director commented on this by saying that she never wanted people to think that none of the events happened, she wanted to make aware of how shallow and self centred that life is.
18:59 I think if I remember correctly they would do three different takes with William, then they would jumble them up in these sense 1 where he's unaware, one where he's like half way to figuring it out and one where he flat out knows. Hence why his face changes so much. I might be wrong on that though. ua-cam.com/video/LGjpu-2gqwI/v-deo.html
I love every scene with Willem Dafoe. They took multiple takes with one take being he knew, another being he suspects, and another that he doesn't suspect at all. They then combined all the takes to make it so the audience could never tell what the character was thinking, and it just gives that weird feeling.
Wow. That's really cool.
Was gonna comment this, but I knew I'd find it had been said lol
@@Gr13fM4ch1n3 same here!
Rather than believing that none of it really happened, I always choose to believe that all of it DID happen, but that Patrick is surrounded by people who are actually every bit as cold, psychotic, and inhuman as he is. So when the realtor found Paul's apartment full of corpses, she simply had them disposed of and repainted the place so she could sell it. And when Patrick openly refers to killing and maiming women, everyone around him is too self-involved to care or even notice. And so that's why Patrick decides that his "confession has meant nothing" - because he realizes that he's not special, and not different from the people around him.
Though there are, of course, exceptions when seeing the people who aren't as rich as Patrick and his contemporaries - his secretary, the sex workers, and even the homeless man all exhibit actual human emotions and behavior. Which is where the satire/criticism comes back into play, suggesting that certain wealthy lifestyles breed psychos by the dozen. :)
@@dlweiss Another film example of that is the two guys from Alfred Hitchcock's Rope.
That was the whole point of the movie that people missed even the director of the movie was disappointed.
@Tinker Belle the whole point was that everyone is so self absorbed with themselves that they can't tell what's happening around them and they don't bother to care.
It did happen
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the best parts with Patrick and the detective is there were 3 takes done where the detective knows Patrick is the killer one where he doesn't and one where he suspects he is the killer and all the takes are edited together to confuse the viewer!
For real, Its astounding
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He has the best laugh and giggles.
The card scene where he’s sweating his co workers were creeped out because he made himself sweat on command
Was not expecting you to react to this movie but its something I didn't know I wanted to see. Keep up the good work
Same I saw so surprised and happy at the same time
Fun Fact: The reason Willem Dafoe’s character seems to shift perspectives so much is because the director filmed each of his scenes 3 times: once as if he knew Patrick was guilty, once as if he wasn’t sure, and once as if he knew Patrick was innocent. Then, they mixed and matched the reactions for the shots.
that's actually really interesting
Everybody in this movie is so completely superficial and self-absorbed I think that nobody notices Patrick repeatedly confessing to being a psychopathic serial killer. Though this is also a classic example of the unreliable narrator so who knows what's really happening and what's not.
The fact that this was a satire on the excesses of the yuppy culture in the 80's was lost on a lot of people. The novel written by Bret Easton Ellis (who also wrote Less Than Zero), was viewed as sexist violence. But over time people have been able to see it as what is was.
Less Than Zero was disturbing and beautiful. Really underrated!
It’s still sexist and homeless people violence. I really don’t see any lesson learned except people in power can get away with anything they please cause people won’t believe them
Yeah I read the novel before seeing the film. Way better that way imo. Both the novel and film are brilliant
It went into the '90s too. Not late-'90s or 2000 of course, but I remember it all lingering as late as mid-'90s. Maybe it wasn't far removed enough in time for people to compartmentalize it, I'm theorizing.
Most of the other actors on set like Josh Lucas thought Bale was doing a terrible job, didn't understand what the director saw in him...until they saw the finished product and realized how brilliant his performance of a performance was. He had to go beyond everyone's superficial performance of superficial of superficial people without crossing over into purely comedic satire. This is the true Bruce Wayne.
"This is a comedy. This is a full blown comedy."
Yeah, Seb gets it! It is 100% a satirical comedy, and maybe one of the absolute best out there.
Satirical black comedy and horror. Not mutually exclusive imho.
I have been teaching both the novel and movie a few times, and it is definitely possible to interpret both in multiple ways.
As the movie and novel criticize and satirize capitalism and materialism to a large extent, when Bateman visits Paul Allen's apartment at the end of the film, it is very likely that the owners of Paul Allen's apartment building have simply renovated the place completely and removed any trace of the bodies in order to maximize the profit of selling the apartment again after Paul Allen's death. The value of the place would take a significant hit if it was known as the apartment of a serial killer's rampage, which is why the real estate agent is so suspicious during her conversation with Bateman. As you also point out during the film, most of the characters have trouble recognizing other people and often mistake people for someone else, which is even more pronounced in the novel. I do think that Bateman's lawyer is simply mistaken someone else for Paul Allen, just like Paul Allen mistakes Patrick Bateman for Marcus Halberstram.
Again, it is possible to interpret these things in many different ways, so this is simply my two cents! I always enjoy your very genuine reactions! Keep it up!
Its amazing, If he did do the murders (or at least SOME of them) it also is showing how the rich and powerful aren't held accountable for their actions. Funny enough if you think he didn't do it there is a ton more to dissect about what went down on a psychological level and why, I think that's what makes it amazing cause if you believe he did it or not each side has something to say.
@@jojivlogs3697 - Absolutely! This is also one of the reasons why no one pays attention to what Patrick is telling them. He states multiple times that he is a deranged serial killer, but people corrupted by materialism only hear what they want to hear. Or, at least, that is something one could potentially argue. And yes! If he did not commit any of them, the film works on a very different level.
its not possible to interpret both ways because the movie makes it clear he is hallucinating. if you look at the scene where he is dragging the bag he has a trial of blood behind him but when it he leaves the door the trail dissappears and obviously the feed me a stray cat was a hallucination too and its all too ridiclous to be actually occuring like he didnt drop a chainsaw through many floors killing a girl with it thats insane and no one in the building noticed? also how he killed the janitor and the receptionist and then the next day he goes out and the helicopters disappear like nothing happened? it definetly is all in his head and you can see that also in his book everything he imagined was drawn including the chainsaw on the girl and everyone says that patrick is such a dork because he actually is he is really mentally ill and imagining everything and everyone notices how ridiculous he acts
@@Aemond-qj4xt - I disagree with you on the fact that the movie can only be interpreted in the way that you suggest. However, I do agree with you that your interpretation is one way of viewing the film, which is perhaps equally good to other suggestions. To claim, however, that this is the only way to view the film is a detriment to the enormous strength of the material, both novel and film. Bateman is most likely hallucinating some of it, including the scene with the cat and the police officers, but to think that all of it is one big hallucination because of mental illness feels very much against Bret Easton Ellis’s philosophy, and how Mary Harron approached the film when she was directing it. The film is very much being coy on purpose, leaving traces and clues to suggest multiple interpretations, which is why it is so great-in my opinion…
@@Philip-Poulsen how do you explain the blood trail disappearing? That's a hint that it's all a hallucination because it doesn't make any sense that the blood trail only is a hallucination
This is one of the funniest films I've ever seen. Great reaction.
My understanding of the ending when I first saw it was that the lawyer is pretending to have had dinner with Paul Allen in London in order to clear Patrick's name. I felt like that's why Patrick's relieved when he realises what he is implying and is jolly at the table.
But now I'm confused too. 😕
Thats the point! It may or may not have happened. It can literally be either one.
Seeing how they counfuse people's names all around because they all look the same, chances are the lawyer had dinner with another guy he though he was Paul Allen
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My interpretation of the ending is that Patrick's CEO father covered up everything. The realtor was an "agent" of Patrick's dad and was there to facilitate the coverup. That's why she seemed so cold and weird. It was like a foreign spy giving him the signal "I suggest you go....and don't come back." It was another way of saying "We got this under control. Stay away from here if you don't want to get caught." Also Patrick's lawyer said "He had dinner with Paul Allen twice in London so it's not possible." What if his lawyer was trying to stay on script?
My interpretation is that this whole movies takes place with Patrick's head, it would make a lot of sense actually.
The line about his father being the head of the company, he can do anything he likes by Reese Witherspoon's character is the most important line in the film...
I think the old woman was just trying to sell Paul Allen's old apartment and didn't want it being known that people were killed there. So, being more concerned with selling than getting justice for the victims, she would just rather help the murderer get away with it.
Always makes the reaction video more engaging when the reactor is genuinely into the film being watched.
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Fun fact: If you've watched Dexter, one of his favorite aliases to use is "Patrick Bateman"
Always thought that was hilarious.
Both the book and movie are meant to be ambiguous as to whether he did the murders or not. The director more leaned towards he did the murders (well some of them, before he totally loses his grip on reality). Also the people around Patrick are so self absorbed that they wouldn't notice or care, even if Patrick did murder people.
Fun fact: The director asked Dafoe to perform three separate times. In the first take, Dafoe was told that his character knew Bateman was the killer, in the second he was told to be suspicious, and in the third, he was totally oblivious. Later, in the editing of each of these interviews, the takes were spliced together to keep the audience at a loss to the detective’s suspicions, for at one moment he seemed accusing and the next a close friend.
Also every one including Reese Witherspoon were worried that Christian Bale wasn’t a big enough name or a good enough actor to play this role. He definitely proved them wrong!
The author from the book that was based off said it's all real. Bateman has problems and hallucination but he did killed people. People ignore his confessions because Bateman lives in a materialistic society that only cares about status and appearances, making everyone literally being the same person(you can notice how not just the cards but the outfits of Bateman friends and their wives). The woman in Paul's apartment got rid of all the bodies there so she could sell the apartment and the lawyer, just like many other characters in the film he mixes up people, and for what we know the Paul Allen who dies couldn't even be the real one and he just mixed up.
Despite the title, the real monster isn't Bateman the people around him, the society he lives in that's so disturbing and distorted that makes everyone around him equally as horrible
Bateman killing the dog was so traumatizing
Just hearing it screaming in pain was enough to haunt my dreams
And the worst part is that I can't tell whether the dog died instantly or if it took hours to die out
@@MamadNobari The dog suffered a much slower and more painful death than the homeless man
His yelping shows that loud and clear
@Vae Victis It was a small dog
Bateman stomped at it. Do you know what it feels like to break a bone?
How about multiple bones breaking at the same time?
@@MamadNobari Where do you come to the conclusion a person who feels bad for the dog, does not care about human deaths? Why can't someone show compassion for an animal without someone getting bent out of shape? Frankly you are the one that needs to learn empathy....
@@MamadNobari Because dogs and children activate our need to protect, they depend on humans and have a quality of innocence. That is why them being hurt on screen triggers emotions......Even the YT channel creator mentioned he did not like the cat being fed to the ATM....it is normal human compassion to protect what we deem as innocent and weak. A grown ass man, is not any of those things......Men often feel the need to protect woman and children over other men.....it is human instinct.
I honestly don’t know why but I laughed at that scene😪
The reason that William Defoe scene was so touching is because they filmed it three times one where William knew Bateman was the killer one where he was suspecting he was the killer and one where he was completely oblivious to Bateman being the killer then they added them all together so you never really knew, they tried using most the oblivious scene when giving out the most evidence leading to Patrick being the killer so us viewers never knew what was happening
If you enjoy "pop punk"music there's a song by an American band called "The Front Bottoms"
which makes me think of when you say the word "bussy", but also they have a song called "The Boredom is the Reason I Started Swimming. It’s Also the Reason I Started Sinking", and it makes reference to several of the internal monologues portrayed in both the book and movie versions of American Pyscho.
Lol this movie is wild. I remember loving it when I was a teenager (mainly because of the actors in it) but I still hate the dog killing scene. The way Patrick says "No, Luis. It's not me. You're mistaken." still makes me laugh lmao. I'm the same way about the cat part too. 😅
THIS WAS LITERALLY MY MOST HYPED MOVIE FOR YOU TO SEE
2.6K till 100K that’s insane❤️so proud of you seb da goat!!🐐
Legit one of my favourite films, I’m so happy you were able to see it! 😊 hope everyone’s doing well! 🧡
the Willem Dafoe questioning scenes with Bale was shot three times each, one where he acted as if he didn't know if batman killed, one as if he suspected him, and one as if he fully knew, then they chopped them up and mixed them to keep you guessing.
Him talking about music is just another tactic to fit in. The way he describes/talks about it sounds exactly the same way critics would describe music
Fun fact: When casting for the film, Christian Bale met with the author Bret Easton Ellis and introduced himself as Patrick Bateman, as well as acting out all of his character traits and mannerism. Bret was so uncomfortable he asked him to stop after 10 minutes
Wow
Christian bale just sounded like he was doing a anime voiceover the whole time 😂 amazing video as always seb
I think this movie is satire on the rich and society as well. When he was speaking crazy stuff, the other people didn't hear it because people have a perception of what people like Bateman would say. You are so right about this being very similar to Joker. I had not thought about that. But I loved how they showed the normal and the crazy and how fine of line it is. It's up to the viewer to define their viewing experience.
I'm late because of college but I'll be watching and sharing my thoughts when I get home. This is a reminder to y'all: we are almost there, so keep bringing ppl to subscribe. 100k in 4 days 🥳♥️🥰
fun fact, in the scene where Willem Dafoe is cross-examining Cristian Bale they did several takes where Willem acted like Detective Kimball knew he killed Paul Allen, one where he wasn't sure Bateman killed Paul Allen and one where he didn't know he killed Paul Allen and stitched them together, so it gives the viewer complete uncertainty on what the detective actually thinks
You should watch The Rules of Attraction, based on a book by the same author, one of the main characters is the younger brother of Patrick Bateman. Tremendous movie. Not for everyone but knowing you I think you'd really get a kick out of it.
im sure that someone has already said this but the interrogation scene was shot three different ways. one where kimble suspects bateman, one where he's unsure, and one where he doesn't suspect him. they then spliced moments from each version and made a scene where you can't tell exactly what the interrogator is thinking.
21:02 _"I need therapy!!"_ The best line!
This movie really put Bale on the map, and for very good reason.
I'm not feeling well today, just depressed atm. Thx for the content it made me forget about it for a while.
Get well soon buddy
@@SebScreen thx, appreciate your comment
@@SebScreen also since you have watched the suicide squad you should react to peacemaker, its really great!
Hey man, I share your birthday date! I'm really glad I found your channel a while ago, you're one of the most sincere reactors out there. Best wishes and a million subscribers one day!
I was so surprised when you said you’re birthday was the 23rd, we’re birthday twins!! Happy early birthday:)
Best reaction to the movie so far 😆
This movie is a must for movie fans.
Agree...the subject matter is brilliant satire. The book is different but also an amazing read....
I think the point of the movie is the fact that nothing happened to Patrick Bateman even after his confession. He’s a vile character and yet people turned a blind eye because he’s a rich attractive businessman. I may be wrong but that’s how I viewed it
A film like this is not for everyone but I liked it, however only for a one time watch. As usual, your reactions are what really made the video entertaining, Seb. On another subject, when are you going to do another Chris Evans movie reaction? I miss your thirst comments about him. They always make me roll over laughing. 🤣
My date walked out on me in the movie theater when I laughed through this whole thing 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. This is a masterpiece movie. Lots of controversy when it came out, and I cheered and laughed in the theatres. Almost as crazy and brutal as the book...
The authors other book turned into a movie is 'Less than Zero' with IronMan, Robert Downey Jr, its great as well.
One of the best films of the 80s. James Spades plays a great drug dealer...very convincing.....
Oh this is American classic, Bale is a top tier performer I'm loving this video I swear the reactions are so genuine and cool I could literally watch this show all day lol *that laugh is too much😆
It gets even crazier in the prequel: "Bateman Begins".
You HAVE to watch Black Swan (2011)!! It’s literally so good and i’d love to see you reacting to it.
Love your vids man!
14:09 My dad when 5yo me doesn’t want to eat my food
The lawyer was covering for him The way lawyers sometimes do. His father owns the company and k ows his sons a liability so the lawyer cleaned but the scene and prepared him an alibi . He was trying to get out of there without breaking character as his lawyer . His father would be over if this was ever out so the lawyer essentially is hired “ cleanup” for whatever Patrick gets into . That’s what I heard a long time ago from an interview a few years after its released
The point is you aren't supposed to know if any of it happened , Maybe some murders are real or some aren't, who knows?
There's actually a lot to take from the movie, the psychological stuff etc. If you believe he did do the murders and it all was a cover up then the theme of the movie is how being rich and powerful doesn't hold you accountable to your actions. If the murders didn't happen then its about the social pressures of a life like that and how it can screw with you mentally, the literal façade you have to put on, he's in reality a loser and this is the way he copes in his head, but hes mentally sick so he doesn't know what's real, That's why when he spouts crazy stuff in front of people they don't seem to react cause its in his head. I'm sure there's lots to dissect and even more arguments for each side and what they mean, But that's what makes the movie so good.
I got the "sixth sense" kind of vibe from this movie where Bruce Willis is dead but doesn't know it. The people around Bateman act similar to that IMO
If you like Christian Bale's acting so much, you should watch his first American movie "Empire of the Sun". A hidden gem directed by an early Steven Spielberg from 1987.
When I saw this movie the first time, I thought it all happened, and didn't understand the ending, but on my second rewatch, I formed my own conclusion that P.B suffers from some personality disorder, where he invasions himself doing all of these things, and then when he snaps out of his "second personality" he believes that he has done what he did in his visions.
You should check out Shutter island if you haven't already, it's truly a mind bending film.
this movie is so crazy in what it whats you to think that they literally had Willem Dafoe record his interrogation lines 3 separate times in 3 different ways, one where he knew what Bateman did, one where he had no idea, and one where he didnt care i think was the last one and then mixed all 3 up so that you wouldnt know what he was thinking
I think it was One where he knew, one where he suspected, and one where he didn't suspect.
Willem Dafoe shot all of his scenes 3 times with different body language in each take. One take being none suspecting of Patrick, one take being suspicious of Patrick abd one take already knowing what Patrick has done. The editors then spliced parts of all 3 takes together in each of his scenes so every time the camera cuts back to Dafoe we as the audience can never tell for sure what his impression of Patrick really is overall.
I might not have explained this very clearly but its an ingenious way of filming an interrogation scene that i wish more film makers would use.
I've seen this movie maybe 10 times and I still don't know what actually happened. And I think that's what the director wanted, ambiguity. One thing that was certain was the dark humor hit on target every time. It took the edge off how morbidly psychotic Patrick was.
I think I like not knowing exactly what happened.
This was a fun watch, subscribed.
The writer confirmed that he did in fact kill all of those people but everyone is so self centered around him and his job that they simply to not care: example the lady who remodeled Paul Allen’s apartment took the body’s out and repainted and put together that Patrick came back to tend to the bodies hense her asking to not start any trouble.
just seen it recently. what a movie! i surely enjoy movies that deal with psychological issues
Happy birthday!!
Murders and executions = Mergers and Acquisitions... My God. Wall Street pun.
You'll love The Prestige in case you haven't watched it. Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman, Christofer Nolan and some more familiar faces
At 11:45, As one person commented on another person's reaction, "The Green Goblin is questioning Batman about the disappearance of the Joker... WTF ?!?? "
The book is even more disturbing & I LOVE the book!! So if you love to read, it’s a very good book!
And I really really hope you get a 100k subscribers before your birthday. 🎉
I will do what I can to make it happen.
The movie is basically a satire of 1980s Wall Street greed and materialism. Any one of those rich guys could be like Patrick Bateman. Lewis, the guy who comes to out Patrick, is probably the only guy who isn't a complete psychopath. I like to think that most of the most is just Patrick's hallucination, which further drives home the point that any one of those Wall Street guys could be a psychopath and that whatever hallucination Patrick is having the rest of that group is having as well. It works really well as social commentary. Otherwise, if it "really happened" within the context of the movie, all the social commentary makes a lot less sense, because it's basically just a standard late 90s-early 2000s horror movie about a homicidal manic whose motivations aren't really explained except that this is who he is and that's all there is to it. If you want another weird, psychological thriller movie, Eyes Wide Shut was Stanley Kubrick's last film, released posthumously. It's not just a raunchy, over the top softcore porn movie, it's also social commentary on secret societies and all that stuff. It's definitely creepy.
Well there is still a commentary If he did do it, Basically its showing that the rich and powerful aren't held accountable for their actions, Having a company go so far to get rid of the traces of the murders just so they can keep profits. Its not as deep as if he didn't murder, but its something, And I'm sure there's more then just that for the murdering side of it.
That greed and materialism is still very much there.
I was waiting for him to post this
When Willem Dafoe is in a business outfit he is instantly Norman Osborn
He's something of a detective himself.
@@LordVolkov patick fateman??
You should also react to arrival
This movie is in my list for so long...now I'm gonna watch just because of you so I can enjoy the video more lol 😆
I finally did and I'm going crazy
ay mate, i have been watching your videos for a long time but never subbed for some reason. i gotchu my boy! happy birthday!!
The filmmakers actually stated that the ending was real and he did kill those people, however, he would not be jailed because of his high place in society
Thanks for enjoying my movie
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Yeah that's healthy man bussy right there
Admit it people. We want the "American dream" one day, and the "American Psycho" dream next. "They don't have a good bathroom to do cocaine in." "Yep, that's a problem. Let's go somewhere else." 😀😀
lol i just watched your reaction to fight club before this, and Jared Leto was in that too. Jeez...he was everywhere in the 90s haha
Great, you should also react to the original 1960 Psycho directed by Alfred Hitchcock. One of the all time great movies!
Don't worry, it is okay to laugh. The director and Christian bale both stated that it is a dark comedy, even though it has really disturbing stuff in it. They both laughed their asses off at certain scenes during the premiere, while a lot of the audience didn't know how they should react.
The book is more gory, and also ends unclearly. I read the author was implying that most of it did happen, but Bateman got away with it because everyone looks the same and are entirely selfish, superficial characters. It's an observation on yuppy culture in the 80s. Bale is fantastic as ever and this was his major breakthrough role.
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see Paul Allen's reaction.
I dressed up as Patrick Bateman for Halloween this year! :)
Impressive, very nice reaction.
Happy early birthday! Mine is the 25th ❤🥳
Also, if you want to see more of Christian Bale's drastic physical transformations, check out The Machinist.
Seb if you haven't... You must watch Arrival and American Beauty. Both exceptional films.
So I just recently watched it and I have heard from many people that it was a dark comedy, and have seen many dark comedies before, but nothing in this movie, would I ever consider to be that. It was a deeply disturbing film.
Omg hhhhh that AGUUUUHHHHHH WAS SO GOOD
@11:28 "I'm something of a detective myself."
you should watch THE RULES OF ATTRACTION. one of the main characters is patrick bateman’s brother. it’s nothing like this though. its like an indie drama
I loved The Rules of Attraction
Basically, it was a comment on the egos and shallow nature of that world. People accidentally gave him alibis because they dont know who he is. They are all so self absorbed.
With the apartment, they didnt want to say there were dead people there etc etc so they will sell the apartment. Hence why they said not to cause trouble.
It was all real. The director commented on this by saying that she never wanted people to think that none of the events happened, she wanted to make aware of how shallow and self centred that life is.
My whole opinion on the ending is that it doesn’t matter what was real versus fake
18:59 I think if I remember correctly they would do three different takes with William, then they would jumble them up in these sense 1 where he's unaware, one where he's like half way to figuring it out and one where he flat out knows. Hence why his face changes so much. I might be wrong on that though.
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