What's the difference between an MP 43/1 and an STG 44? With firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- The Nazis pioneered the development of the assault rifle and the intermediate cartridge in the latter half of the Second World War. It led to a host of weapons under different designations with seemingly little (to nothing) to separate individual models. Jonathan Ferguson explains the difference between the MP 43/1 and the STG 44.
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Hey, Jonathan. I hope this hasn't been done before (If so, I wasn't able to find it) but I'd be very interested in a video about the life cycle of a gun in the royal armouries. This would probably be a more elaborate video but I'd love to see what happens to a gun once it arrives at the museum, what makes you choose a specific gun for an exhibition and how it is maybe prepared beforehand etc.. Basically the whole process and inner-workings of the royal armouries in regards to guns. Anyway, love your content and happy new year :)
Seconded, I'd love the inside look on this, or even knowing what Jonathan's "typical day" looks like.
that would be awesome to see
I think this is a fantastic idea
That would be excellent and incredibly interesting , but would probably take several days to film & edit . But it would be right up My street .
@The Old Man *_Forgotten Weapons_* channel has 3 to 5 or so videos on YT about the Sturmgewhrs, all together roughly an hour and a halves worth.
Jonathan, did you just make this video because you needed a little emotional support?
Yes
Must have seen the end of year cursed guns that Dave has had him look at and gotten heavy PTSD flashbacks
I came for this, thank you.
He needs it badly.
Jonathan's Legendary Emotional Support Stg 44 is officially part of internet gun/videogame lore.
5:34 The lineage is even longer, the MKb42(h) was previously known as:
sMP42 - schwere Maschinenpistole 42 / heavy sub-machinegun 42
MP42 - Maschinenpistole 42 / just sub machinegun 42 (heavy was removed)
MP42s - Maschinenpistole 42 schwer / sub machinegun 42 heavy (the heavy was re added but to the end)
MK42 - Maschinenkarabiner 42 / machinecarbine short MK, until the Germans notices the MK was already in use for "maschinenkanone" (autocannon / lit. machinecannon)
MKb.42 - Maschinenkarabiner 42 / machinecarbine (this time written MKb. to prevent confusion with MK)
MKb.42(h) - the (h) was not added untill Walther joint the competition.
MKb.42 H.S. - Heanel had planed to make another MKb. to prevent confusion the one from Hugo Schmeisser was labes H.S. (Haenel Schmeisser)
The East German’s equipped African nations/ guerrilla units with them in the 1960’s/70’s
Quick question. Will this rifle give me emotional support like your STG 44 does? 😂
I saw a picture of captured weapons in Iraq back in 2004, and aside from the AK variants and ubiquitous SVD, there was one lone STG at the end of the row.
Cant believe there's still enough of the ammo left to actually feed them.
There were alot STGs in the syrina conflict
@@ManDuderGuy There's more than enough, not to mention reloading. If you're against the US you could probably have the Chinese run up a large batch for ya. Not to mention that the Russians were giving the north Vietnamese a metric shit-ton of these and the ammo to keep'em in the fight for some time.
@@ManDuderGuy There's more than enough, not to mention reloading. If you're against the US you could probably have the Chinese run up a large batch for ya. Not to mention that the Russians were giving the north Vietnamese a metric shit-ton of these and the ammo to keep'em in the fight for some time.
@ManDuderGuy Prvi Partisan used to make 7.92 kurtz till fairly recently. As Jonathan said Yugoslavia had ... "acquired" a substantial number of these rifles at the end of WWII. So they would have reason to seek out supplies like ammo and spares, for some years after that.
Interesting thoughts on how the STG 44 started become cruder as the war turned for Germany as well as the the introduction of genuine last ditch weapons. Reminds me of the reverse as you watch the The Sten go from a truly dreadfully finished Mk I and more prevalent Mk II to the Mk V that actually had places to put your hands and the luxury of mounting a useless bayonet!
Time is money.
In my research into the STEN, one of my first discoveries was that Mk.I and Mk.II STENs were being trialled together at the same time, before adoption of either. I have a HUGE amount of more research to do but this was a very surprising early find. This was from he Archive at the Royal Armouries, Leeds, courtesy of Jonathan and colleagues. Must find time to do more!
Thats because it was designed with no thought for the user. They had to add these things.
there is a cold war simplified version of the Sten.
It was then that the British realised that the Sten´s basics were the most basic it could go.
What is this heresy!?! There is no such thing as a useless bayonet!!! Now I have to upload pictures of my incredibly clever and useful Stinger launcher with bayonet, or my bayonet equipped MATV, or the extremely deadly bayonet mount for my laptop!
Jonathan (and the whole team at The Royal Armouries), thank you again for the magnificent information you provide! Just one little suggestion, though. Is there any way you could get more light? I do appreciate the dark theme, but earlier, on footage filmed in the conference room, we were able to actually see the item(s) you presented.
Good comment! This is something I have been meaning to comment on.
If I was an engineer sitting between all these weapons, I'd probably say that the AK (which is the contentious post-war design) is a conglomeration of the M1 Garand and the STG44. Uniquely from the STG44 being the short rifle cartridge and the over-barrel design of the gas piston. The specifics of what gun gets invented where lag behind the necessities of war, and that goes for the shape of the gun (which a lot comes from cheap stamping requirements). Mass produced enough and it becomes a "hero gun", even after that war is over. But it seems weird that the idea that the AK is just an STG44 knock-off is one that pops up pretty persistently. idk there are limited number of ways to port energy into rotation etc
The Buttstock on the 43/1 looks bigger as well.
So, does something marked MP43 give the same emotional support as the Stgw 44?
When you say heavier than a first gen AK fo you mean type 1 stamped ones or the milled variant they switched to due to problems?
It's heavier even than the type 2 (the first milled pattern). I think it's nearly 5 kg.
Do you have examples of the MkB 42 development i.e the Henchel and Walther wariants? Anyway fun video as always! Happy new year to Jonathan and the team!
I am so happy we have you and Ian in this space. Deep, calm and thorough content about the guns, whereas most gun channels turned loud and fast = funny = views
I like demo ranch and alike, but the deep knowledge you share is just smth else.
What about forgotten weapons?
@@superpeabody2658 Ian is the guy in forgotten weapons (also known as Gun Jesus). He mentioned him in the first sentence.
Also no politics from these two, especially american politics.
For Jonathan it of course makes sense as he's from the UK but countless american gun channels use their platform to promote some sort of politics or make stupid jokes (like the typical one "hurr durr, liberals wanna take our guns).
As a non-american that can be quite annoying, which made me stop watching countless channels. But Ian keeps it all out of his videos and that makes him even better than he already is
@@fuckinantipope5511 Eh americans will be americans. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is purely to taste.
Bizarre to hear of crates of the MP/STG 43/44 turning up in Syria. I wonder if the people who found/provided them realised what they had on their hands. Fairly certain there would've been a long queue of American collectors who would've paid a pretty penny for a good quality example.
Exporting from a war zone .
but the average american collector can not buy them. they are limited to what is already registered, and this Registry was closed in 1986. that's why the prices are so high.
so only dealers with licence for FA guns could buy them as samples, maybe for a reference collection. and that market is very limited. I'm quite sure there is no resell market to LE for this old guns, they will prefer more modern guns. makes it quite hard to argue why a dealer should stock them
Jonathon mentioned the latest units lacking QC, so maybe those grapes were sour anyway ;~;
They were shipped to Syria by the French in 1948 along with Panzer IV tanks…
And because the weren’t in the US before 1986, they can’t be registered and are therefore illegal… (though you could import them as parts kits if the gun is cut in half through the receiver).
Lol , they're still being used in the Ukraine today
Everyone knows that's the Emotional Support Sturmgewehr™.
I remember hearing somewhere (FW?) that the reason for the elimination of the optic rails on the rear sight base is that it simply wasn't repeatable enough to hold zero well enough to be worth using.
Hi! Could you guys do a video on the stoner 63?
I'm not one to tell a firearms expert about his job but... the term assault rifle is not problematic beyond the fact that some people think that semi-automatic rifles are assault rifles. The real problem term (at least here in the U.S.) is "assault weapon".
Johnathan, have you ever thought of showcasing a cartridge (I mean specific cartridge for example Balle D not overall 7x50mm R) on a What is this weapon or in RA's YT channel? It would be awesome as heck to see that
I keep threatening to throw a certain cartridge in as a side match there but have not got round to doing it yet...
Apparently, PSA announced at the 2023 SHOT show, they were introducting a slightly modernized Stg 44 with fairly simple caliber conversion between 8mm Kurz, 5.56, 300 Blackout and 7.62x39. A version you can shoot a lot and get spare parts for.
You mean you can now kit up a Sturmgehwer, same as you can an AR-15 ??? .....
The steel handguard is a fundamental design flaw, I wonder why they stuck with it ?
Good quality lumber was becoming very hard to come by by the time the STG was adopted. It’s one of the reasons why the K98 went to having laminated stocks mid war.
You will be wearing gloves regardless in freezing conditions.
@@zoiders WW2 wasn't fought just in cold climates.
@@STdoubleDs true, but im thinking of the last ditch VG weapons which all had wood stocks and hand guards so there must have been timber available.
@@snowflakemelter1172
It ultimately came down to German logistical doctrine later in the war. If the majority of the parts of the STG were going to be made out of stampings, why complicate the manufacturing with another piece of wood or bakelite when the metal fabricators that are trained in metal work can stamp out a stopgap/replaceable part in one tenth the time. The vg1-5 and vg-5 rifles used short stock configurations where the piece of wood being used didn’t have to be a long piece of knot free hard wood. They were essentially putting crude, minimalist hunting stocks on their last ditch weapon designs.
I love the STG family of rifles , it would be amazing if blueline made a decent reproduction
You can buy a 22lr semi Auto version if you got the scratch.
Palmetto State Armory is planning on making a reproduction with some small modern improvements. You should check it out
aaaa the sticky outy bit... kkkk... the mostest technical term...
This is a proper assault rifle
When you test fired this yesterday the ejection pattern was scattering them about like a mad woman's sh*t. I take it the locking and unlocking is not the most consistent? Also - who still produces 8mm Kurz for you?
Prvi makes the stuff for some reason.
@@lordsummerisle87 I know Privi make it because Yugoslavia had stocks of 44's. Poland equipped their Soviet era parachute regiment with them as well.
@@zoiders I thought it was Yugoslavia that did, not Poland?
Or did they both do it?
I demand a collab of Jonathan with Gun Jesus (Ian McCallum [Forgotten Weapons]) Cause this is just so good! I think they'd both be an amazing little series! :D
I second that!
Demand? Start paying first!
Didn't they do that in the desert a few years ago?
They have done! Go look up their bullpup video!
I think the Rumanians produced 7.92mm kurtz well after the war.
Way back when Germany way ahead of its time
I'm a life long gun nerd and a social media denier, and I think these videos stand on their own just fine. Love the content you guys put up on this channel, don't you worry about that, just keep it coming!
Thanks for sharing on this very social and media focused platform!
@@RonnocYad i think he mean stuff like TikTok/Snapchat/instagram
LOL! ..."sticky-outy bit" being a technical term, of course!
Great vid.
This German mp44/stg44 is clearly the inspiration for the AK 47. Though the ak shared some features with the equaly tough and reliable M14 garand
Ex nazi MP43's and MP44's came into the UK in their 1000's in the mid-late 1980's from Israel complete with original ammunition and spare magazines by the boatload. All excellent to mint condition retailing around the GBP350 mark, converted to semi auto in accordance with UK firearm law (although some police forces did not allow conversions as section 1 firearms).
I ordered one from Trident arms in Nottingham but never received it due to the 1987 semi automatic rifle ban by the then dishonest and corrupt government deciding law abiding people weren't to be trusted!! (A ban I have had to endure yet again here in NZ recently by another deeply corrupt and undemocratic government).
The 7.92 x 33 Kurz cartridge was originally designed in the mid 1930's as a way to circumvent the Treaty of Versailles by designating it as a 'pistol cartridge'. It was only seriously developed in mid 1940 for use in experimental rifles which led to the early MKB42 assault rifle variants. This was tested for the first time against the Russians at Cholm, Russia in late 1942. The new rifle must have had a big impact because the Russians started to develop their own short cartridge (7.62 x 39 M43) and assault rifle almost immediately after their first engagements.
Mikhail Kalashnikov declared his motivation to design and develop better guns for the Russian military was based on a conversation in a hospital with a fellow injured soldier who was complaining about the German Stg44. It's overwhelming firepower and the fact that there were only 1 bolt action rifle for each 3-4 Russian soldiers.
I would disagree with the idea a standard assault rifle can replace the SMG. It can replace the SMG in general infantry service, but unless you go to a very cut down version (like the AKSU74), not as good a fit for the AFV crew defensive gun. (I'll disregard utterly the very niche roles, like VIP protection or special operations types with specialty requirements- the number of those users, compared to the overall army, is a rounding error.)
If you argue that the SMG can be fully replaced in conventional military service by cut down variants like the AKSU74, then you have to accept assaukt rifle variants like the RPK and the USMC's IAR as legitimate "assault rifles", and they have absolutely established the *squad* / *section* level LMG can be replaced by an assault rifle variant (provided the base rifle platform isn't crap, like the L85/L86)... or at worst, a dedicated LMG (FN Minimi, HK MG4, Ultimax, Negev, etc.), in the intermediate cartridge (again, provided the LMG isn't crap ([cough, cough] CETME Ameli)), even if some use cases might call for pushing the "full power" GPMGs down to the squad/section level.
Once you go to needing a more compact weapon for vehicle crews, then you might choose an SMG (L2A3) or a PDW or a Carbine (L22A2).
If the AFV crews in the vehicle, they can fight with the weapons mounted on the vehicle. They don't need sub-compact weapon to defend themselves. If the AFV crews fighting outside the vehicle, the space constrain is gone. Therefore, the standard infantry weapon (whatever it may be) will suit them just fine.
@@ichimonjiguy it's more about being able to store and then get out of the vehicle with the weapon. Watch Oxides video on Russian tanker kit, it demonstrates the point quite well.
11.25 "This little sticky outy bit..."
You've just got to love Jonathan's precise technical descriptions.
You should a grey or white table cloth!
I hope Jonathan reviews the GM-94 pump action Grenade Launcher behind him soon aka the Russian China Lake (but official)
Back once again its the Gamespot master! Jonathan with the STG behaviour!
The mount for the optics was also meant for the ZG 1229 Vampire, or Zielgerät (Zielgeraet; aiming device) 1229 Vampir, which had been in development around that time as well.
One of these guns is the one Jonathan hugs after doing video with GameSpot and seeing all the cursed guns they have concocted
I have a .22 version based externally on the Stg 44 same size and all, not sure about the weight.... semi auto but great fun and looks pretty cool. A US start-up tried to manufacture semi-auto replicas in 8mm Kurz and 7.62/39 (I think) but it appears that they failed and a lot of people lost deposits. They got close I understand but never got over the hump.
I've got myself one too. Mine is a GSG StG-44 in .22LR. I mounted an ACOG clone on it, so I get some looks when I take it to the range. ^_^
PSA announced introduction of it this year at SHOT show 2023.
there needs to be an STG for AR/AK foreign exchange program.
11:21 "Sticky-outy bit"
And that's how Jonathan Ferguson became the first honorary 'umie mekboy.
Jonathan Ferguson for prime minister 🫡
Jonathan, I can be mistaken, but isn't the buttstock different?
It also showed up in the Dutch East Indies and Vietnam.
At least the history of German firearms isn't demonized..
Thank you for a very informative and expert video. But please can we fix the lighting of these videos? My eyesight is not what it was, it would be super to be able to see the detail. Thank you for your work to bring the collection to a wider audience. Bravo!
Yes, I have been meaning to comment that this location and specifically the table covering are too dark to see details. Good comment.
What's wrong with the light?
A shipping container containing a crate or two of unissued condition STG-44's turned up in the main port of Yemen just last year.
One of the main reasons Hitler did not want production to start on MP-43 production was not only that it appeared ugly to him, but there was an ammunition shortage which would be made worse with introduction of a new cartridge, 8mm kurz.
Sooner or later all the good stuff ends in Royal Armouries, if British Museum does not get its hands on the stuff.
Having a light grey table cloth rather than black would make it easier to see the weapons. Also better lighting for the closeups is needed.
3:17 I thought the term "Assault Rifle" derives from the Lewis-"Assault Phase Rifle" from 1916 naming the rifle after the "Assault Phase" of trench warfare ..
Which variant of this family did Brad Pitt use in Fury? Was it historically plausible?
Given that Fury is a late gunned variant it would seem quite plausible I'd say....
Use a white table its super hard to see anything on black
So what was the incident with the grenade launcher that had to push the video back yesterday? 😋
I recall the Americans had a similar debate about whether or not the M1 Garand rifle could replace all other arms in the rifle squad and potentially the platoon. Shows a lot about how much doctrine was wedded to the basic capabilities of the repeating rifles. Moment someone has a weapon of similar bulk that can shoot a lot more in a hurry, people start dreaming that one gun can do it all.
It's a necessity really. Keep in mind that the previous doctrines have been based on what the platoons previously were armed with, so any major change into the dynamic not only leads to new possibilities, but potentially also new problems if you just continue with the old doctrine.
Not all of the MP43/1 rifles have the ZF41 rail on the back sight tower. Mp43/1 still had a some of the left over MKB42H parts, Stock, barrel. muzzle nut and sight tower.
In Battlefield V you can actually swap between the larger and smaller stocks in the cosmetic customization
Edit: that grenade launcher segment is great
The smaller stock is a wire stock, definitely rendering the gun inoperable due to the stock having a recoil spring
@@rosaria8384 I'm not talking about the wire stock, that's a different thing. It has the different sized wood stocks as seen in this video.
Jonathan and Mark Felton should collaborate
Damn the Germans were so far ahead with this gun compared to everyone else. Most countries armies were still using bolt action rifles and here the Germans have a full auto 30 round mag firearm.
I remember reading that the MP43/44/STG44 was cheaper to produce than an M1 Garand, is that broadly correct? And, if so, is that all due to the ease of manufacturing stamped steel gives? It almost seems incredible that it'd save that much.
Stamping is an extremely cheap way to produce things for the era, but the complex stampings (remember the Soviets took years of working with Germans to develop their stamping abilities for the AK) of items like this had massive upfront costs compared to more traditional manufacturing methods.
So what is cheaper would likely depend heavily on how many units are produced with more units favouring the stamped weapon.
@@88porpoise Very good point.
The Hanel StG 44 took 75 man hours, materials included, to make. That wasn’t enough so the Mauser StG 45 was only supposed to take 45 man hours. The only raw material Germany was self sufficient in was magnesium. This can only really be pressed into shape (TIG welding excepted). The expertise Germany developed in magnesium presses worked its way into aluminium and steal. This is an area German industry was way ahead in. They had complex castings, forging a and pressings especially for aircaft parts.
... What about the latter (I'm aware,it was never used in combat) STG 45 ?.
Hi Jonathan, we going to see an fg42 segment on here soon.??
I believe the real problem governments had with adopting semi and full automatic weapons was the cost and logistics of manufacture and transport of the new weapon along with a much larger volume of ammunition.
As I understood it, Sturmgewehr basically translated to something akin to "storm rifle", as in "to storm an objective" or "storm the beach", i.e. to assault something. So it was the weapon used in assaults etc.. And this is the dawn of the term assault rifle, right?
I'm impressed with your German and how you can connect the words storm rifle to assault rifle. Bravo!
The STG evolved into the Cetme, and then into the HK. following the family tree from WW2 to the present would be a good video
Tell me you have never disassembled a Roller-Delayed blowback without telling me you’ve never…
The MKb/Stg44 has nothing in common with the CETME/G3-family and works on entirely different principles. Different design teams, different outcomes.
@@903lew The Cetme was literally designed by some of the same engineers from Mauser, and while it's a blowback operated gun and not a long stroke piston operated gun, there are a lot of similarities in its construction, most of all the stamped receiver is a direct result of the STG design. Ludwig Vorgrimler is the one who patented the roller delay system in Germany during WW2
@@broadstken you're thinking of the STG 45 though, not STG44 that this video is about.
You are right on technicality. I agree with you, but internally the STG44 and CETME are totally different.
@@broadstken Vorgrimler always worked on blowback, never on pistons. Furthermore, Mauser was not involved in the Stg44/MP43/MKb, that was Haenel.
But sure, someone working on tracks at MAN was key to gearboxes at Henschel. Because of course they were.
Honestly I think you're one of the best GunTubers out there. I'm obsessed with watching anything you touch.
I wouldn't call Jonathan a "guntuber." He works at the Royal Armouries; the UA-cam channel is a side gig, and more persons from the Royal Armouries than just Jonathan have appeared on the channel. That said, I agree that he's one of the best in the business, such as it is, second perhaps only to Ian of Forgotten Weapons. Ian has been doing video presentations longer, and works more with auction companies and collections than museums, so he perhaps has fewer direct resources, but certainly more experience doing the actual presentation side of things.
Don't forget the Gun Jesus from Forgotten weapons
@@justsomehaatonpassingby4488I personally think that Jonathan and Ian are in their own group among «guntubers». I appreciate the serious knowledge they bring without all of the flash, bang and ballistics gel of the other channels.
Thanks
I have a cool 3D animation about STG 44. The channel also has a lot of content about various weapons
I love this content but I’d love it even more with better lighting and seeing the weapons against a light or white table
Sir.. very well presented.. OUTSTANDING.. I would like to add.. if GERMANY had standardized cartridges very earlier on in the war the outcome still would be the same . A lesson learned from ww1 by the AMERICAN'S.. beans and bullets must arrive before boots. With the onset of ww2.. the US army wanted 3 calibers of existing carriages. .45 , .30-06 and .50 only later did the .30 (7.62) start to enter the logistics supply chain.. so uprating the stg44 or downgrading the KAR98 was the only choice that Hitler had based on current manufacturing restrictions.
I don't know what the beef is about the MKB 42 (W)/(H). Maschinenkarabiner 42, (Maschinenkarabiner just means machine carabiner as in machine gun long Rifle) as in year and then W is the Walther Company as in the Walther pp series and P38 luger types of hand guns. The H is for Haenel or C.G. Haenel who made the MP38/40. So where is the controversy or "mine field" here. Both companies were making WWII firearms for the Wehrmacht. I happen to like the variants of most guns because sometime they come up with daffy crap. Like the attachment for the STG 44 for shooting around corners. (that thing is so hilarious at first blush but also weirdly useful, kind of)
"Do with that information what you will" 😂
Thank you for the wealth of information, very enjoyable video.
Is it somehow documented that Hitler coined the term sturmgewehr? I've seen it claimed several times without any sources mentioned.
It's so odd they had stacking rods. It's kind of the first thing you notice about them coming from a contemporary firearms background. Like - OK, you can replace every infantry firearm with those, but can they stack?
Also would be nice to mention Hugo Schmeisser, who invented them and later on was forced to work for Mr Kalashnikov's KB.
The man should introduce himself as: Hi my name is Jonathan Gigachad Legend King of Yorkshire Ferguson.
A really beautiful gun, despite it's spicy origin story.
It’s rather “passé” to even have the concept of an “Assault Rifle” in the sense that “Infantry” in the sense used from say, the advent of the Roman Legions until the end of the Korean War, is of small relevance to modern Armies. This is save and except the situation where an Army is tasked with “holding” and “Administering” territory and civilian population. The natural concomitant to the aforementioned situation is that the idea of an “Infantry Arm” or an “Assault Rifle” should be designed, manufactured and issued is nonsense. Rather, in a modern Army, troops are trained to use “situational/tactically” weapons rather than a “Standard” weapon.
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To be fair, the US also had the Garand so ya' know, self loading rifles are pretty convenient. They were still using the Springfield so, not completely self-loading.
Fascinating video. I would like to suggest that instead of showing the nazi flag for weapons of this era something else is done. It is confronting to see and however objective the intent portraying the nazi flag, in the context of a neutral social media platform, this is going to leave it open to misrepresentation. How about have just text eg Nazi Germany 1939-945?
It's surprising how compared to most of the rest of the Nazi's weapons being quite ugly, the MP43 was gorgeous out the gate.
Love the comment, the British stuck with bolt action, yeah my dad loved that when the germans were spraying him with automatic fire and his squad were told return fire, yeah - bolt action, mmmm super. He always resented the fact the "British" government sent him to war with effectively a ww1 Era tech rifle. Typical , well make do, with what we got, we have shedloads left over, on yer way.
Does the Royal Armories Have any of the East German wieger stg.940 series ? ? ? I've only just found out about it them and there's very few videos online.
They’re useful for fire support and also emotional support
25 minutes of Stg44 ASMR -- yes please
Does Royal Armouries have an MKB 42H in its possession?
Does anyone know why the german submachine guns/assault rifles in WW2 have the charging handle on the left side?
Generally, military guns are made for right-handed solders, as they make up about 90%. And a left-sided handle tends to snagg on the solders gear or otherwise get in the way when carrying the rifle right-handed.
The MP 18 had the charging handle on the right side. So I'm not sure why this was changed somewhere in the inter war period.
Yes, I noticed that too. It's a very unusual configuration.
It is also much easier to prevent dirt going in when the holes are not spread all over the weapon.
Hi, you forgot to mention that the fallschirmjägergewehr 42 aka FG42 came before stgw.43, and the FG42 used full power ammunition, 7.92x57mm mauser. One could almost believe that the FG42 was the first assault rifle...🤔
FG42 was intended as a SAW. Unless we are to say that the BAR is also the first assault rifle? In which case we may as well go back to the Fedorov. So not quite, I suppose we could also say the FG42 was a "Battle rifle" (if you think that term has any merit)
@@Kav. The maxim gun was the first assault rifle.
@@BrorealeK holy based take holy shit i'm fucking pogging out of my mind right now
Question;
The reduced power cartridge was also available in the form of the M1 carbine, which came first?
When I saw this I thought "GREAT! I'll bet the royal armouries has pristine examples of all the variants, can't wait to see" ... 7 minutes later they're finally on the table and I start playing "spot the differences" and then watch a slow progression through the differences, and a slightly jumbled run through of the history. As for all the differences being in front of the receiver: those two have different versions of buttstock, as you mentioned.
Did you toought that this will be a video to watch when drunk and dont ilunderstand shit but still enjoy?? :D Happy New Year folk and Jonathan too! :)
funny you saying it weighs to much.....bloody Sa80's weight the same god I hated that rifle
Eugene Stoner and James Sullivan first saw constant recoil in the MP-44..Stoner called it that run out thing..
A black gun on black table covering makes for a quite difficult viewing experience.
Its ironic how today "assault rifles" act more like the predecessor to the STG in terms of how full auto fire isn't used as often as semi auto in a gun fight. So you got rifles firing on semi only like the M1, the G43, and SVT that kind of makes the term lose its umph for lack of a better word. I'm also not sure how much the Germans used these on semi vs full auto with the STG so maybe this is all a misconception on my part.
M1, svt, g43 arent assault rifles.
And these are doctrinal differences.
The germans and russians used the automatic function. The americans dont so much. Bet they would have in korea had they had it available...
Not everyone uses american doctrine.
@@sugarnads Yea ofcourse they weren't assault rifles, what I'm saying and I guess I'm saying this for American doctrine more so than other countries is we use our assault rifles similarly to rifles like the M1 taking careful precise shots(atleast in training) and reserving full auto for immediate suppression when coming under intense fire. In the army I only trained for full auto fire on our machine guns. M4's were always on semi, even for suppression too(probably cause its easier to throw the weapon onto semi from safe vs full auto when under stress.) I have seen a lot more full auto use in the Ukraine war for example so yea I agree it is doctrine based.
@@Elong_Musket Ammunition conservation is less of a priority when depots and manufacturers are within your AO, the enemy's identical magazines and cartridges are ripe for scavenging
@The Sunday Shooter true that. Really the best case scenario when you're a nation that's outnumbered and outspent by your enemy. Atleast on paper anyway.
With respect, that's actually the standard rifle used by the Rebel Alliance against the Empire.
Is there any info about the STG 45? It's very difficult to find about.
You forgot the unprovoked Russian attack on Berlin in 1945.
You have a keen ability to take an interesting subject and make it bleeding boring.
Call it your condescending delivery of info.
Thanks Jonathan , I always learn something new when I watch a Royal Armouries video .
They should have super rare antique style weapons in tarkov just for the loot goblins
thank god weapons alone dont win wars! this thing is pretty impressive especially for the time, id hate to be on the business end of one.