Why is the CRF450L is Better than the 701 enduro | CRF450L vs 701 Enduro KTM 690 Enduro
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As soon as a 450l rally comes out with longer maintenance intervals I will be switching over. The problem where I live is there is so much highway riding to get anywhere so a bigger displacement is very nice for highways. Plus if you want to do a long adventure or motocamping trip it can haul a lot of gear. So for now I'll be sticking with the dr650.
DR650 is perfection for what you describe IMO. I love mine for the simplicity. Will go just about anywhere with a good rider. I crossed the simpson desert on mine. Everyone said it'd be impossible to ride with 50kg of gear but I had no trouble at all. Plenty of torque to climb over all 1100 soft sand dunes. Was one of my favorite memories.
Kinda hard to have a real 450r motor in it and have longer service intervals.
Motorcycles are like golf clubs. You pick the right club for the golfer and where the ball is in relationship to the cup. You are refining your riding and therefore changing your assessment of which "club" is best for your needs. No harm. No foul. Enjoy the ride!
Which bike is the 7 iron?
@@whutwhut2434 to wax philosophical... that is in the eyes of the rider and how they plan on using the bike ;-)
The 701 is the only off-road bike designed for singles riding and cruising at 140 kph. In terms of power, even the Royal Enfield Himalayan with 20 hp is enough in most cases and it's cheaper than both.
If you think the CRF450L has more power than a 701, something is very wrong with your 701. The 701 makes almost twice the power and it produces that power in a much broader rev range. With a few modifications the 701, for me is the perfect motorcycle for the type of riding that you do.
I hate to be THAT guy.... but the 450L isn't a 'better' bike. It may be the best choice for your needs, but that's where the comparison ends. As a 690 rider, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the the 450L isn't 'better'. It would drive me nuts. I ride everywhere, and that includes getting to the dirt bike singletrack. Don't have a truck and never will, I ride to where I ride. Glad you like the 450L and it suits your needs, but it isn't 'better'.... All that being said, great video!!
its better in relative terms :) but you are right, it just depends on the needs. more road, for sure 701/690. ive taken my 701 on highway 80 mph and felt great tbh. wouldnt be too sure if I can say the same about the 450L. however for me trailering and not really doing heavy road usage anymore, the 450 is the winner here for my situation and possibly others
I ride my CRF450L from house to trail sometimes several hundred kms it does just fine, effortlessly cruises @ 110kph and is very smooth, no vibration, I even fitted hated grips for those cooler morning hwy rides
It’s whatever fits that person best. Good video brother.
Can't imagine changing a 701 for the Honda.
450rl owner here. I agree with you. I had a xr650r made street legal. Fun and awesome bike. But for single track, I was the weakest link. The 450rl is still a handful on tight trails, but it makes me a better rider. Great vid
wow great video! almost emotional lol!! Riding both bikes, I agree with you, the 701 is a monster on tight stuff. You will definitely be happy with the crf450L, esp with your truck camper, which I guess you will be hauling in the back, so saves some weight. as I always say, the top 3 bikes in this specific area is KTM 500, CRF450L, and 701 Enduro. You kind of choose your poison when it comes to the kind of trails and even road riding you do. It seems you want to mostly do dirt roads, yet take the street back to your camper, so yeah the crf450L will definitely be better than the 701 if you no longer do much street. great perspective!
Excellent video! I’m a KTM 690/Husqvarna 701 guy so I’m sticking with my 701. I just completed a trip from Oregon to Tuktoyaktuk on the 701 and it worked out perfectly. Not BMW 1200GS comfort but more capable in the technical terrain. I don’t know about the Honda 450, I’ll research it.
I have taken this trip from Texas. I have also ridden the 450L on the AZ BDR. I would never take the 450L to Tuk, You would have to change the oil and check the valves on the road.
10,000 miles. That is about when a CRF450L needs a top end job. A CRF450 runs about 35 racing hours to rebuild..............You wont see people riding a CRF450L around the world.
Actually it's about double that at 32,000kms with the L's 3 ring piston but you're right it's a better weekend bike than a distance bike.
The CRF450L has a service interval of 600 miles. And valve checks every 1800 miles. And needs an engine rebuild at 20,000 miles.
The 701 enduro has a 6000-mile service interval. 10 times less servicing. Just get the 701 and ride on more areas.
As a fellow 701 rider, I agree on a few fronts. 701 hasn't been as durable as I would like in my 7k miles.. 3 bdrs and then some. 450L was my first choice but I passed due to concerns over maint intervals etc. 450L.. starting to think about them again
almost 4,000 (mostly road) miles on my '19 CRF450L now. Oil changes arent that bad. They can be extended safely to 1,000 mi if you arent racing the thing all the time.
Got 3500 miles on my highly modified crf450l. Extremely durable. Rolled it down a rocky hill upside down with the throttle pinned till it shut off and rode it 50 miles home. Had a mechanical fail at 3500 miles where the 2 piece starter gear slipped and failed to start the bike. I think it's my fault from starting the bike in gear without the clutch. Good bike overall though!
@@keshmo12 I've heard of the started gear failing from another guy in england. Wonder if it'll end up being a common issue
@@wayward03 been a problem for 15 years on all the hondas. They make it 2 pieces so it fails instead of breaking the cases. $100 gear is cheaper than $500 cases and labor. Probably would never be a problem if my bike wasn't modified with vortex and exhaust.
@@keshmo12 I would have thought the opposite. Vortex solving the flamout issues I'd assume and causing you to start the bike less often.
I'm about three weeks out from buying one of three bikes (450L/500exc/rrs).
If it fits your needs better, than make it happen. The 701 does get a bit big on trails. But, I'm the opposite...fav thing about the 701 is that I can take off from the house and go explore the front range. Maybe....might have to truck the bike to places to explore, say BV...as it is a 2 hour drive and would be tiring on the 701. But I see myself being able to find back ways from the Springs to up behind Denver. The 701 is comfy enough and if tired...it can easily handle 75mpg down '25 to get me home. For single track, I've got the 300. But it's not plated.
for sure 100% the 701 is a bike to have in CO, you live here so you know exactly why its so versatile lol. Im still undecided to sell the 701, instead I might sell the cb500x street bike I have to get the crf450L and keep the 701. everything is still sadly sold out though ha ha. we have to go for a ride buddy one day after all this snow melts!
@@RWWRENTAL you know we will. My bike is in shop right now getting an issue worked on, but when this white shit is melted, its on!
Just curious , as I have a '19 701E. Way more power than I need/can handle and yes tiring (I'm 60) in really tight stuff with weight shifting, on/off the seat. Question is, if you're keeping the 701 then why not have a more modern 250 for days where the Husky does not suit? The '21 CRF250 has some impressive off the throttle torque numbers .I have been pondering this dilemma for a few months now and even considering selling my EM trials bike and buying a 250.
@@goatie977 Wish I could help you out w/ that trials bike. Those look like a lot of fun
@@Burner-Adventure-Chronicles Yeah they are a lot of fun, ridiculous torque and factory spec level suspension. Has helped me a lot with slow manoeuvring the 701.
I know the path of teaming up with the machine. I had a sv1000 recently and I really struggled with the dam thing. I had to train my body and modify a lot of riding techniques even at muscle memory levels to fit it's handling characteristics. It was a long, frustrating, stresfull and heavy journey.... After almost 8 months of hard physical, mechanical and mental work, I remember the moment as It was yesterday, all the pieces off the puzzle suddently clicked and I started being one with the machine. Slaming the thing out of corners to drift it out and back in It in to the next one. I was actualy taking advantage of that huuuge engine braking that I used to hate, I was dialing every bit of throttle at will and my god It was the most rewarding experience that I have had on two wheels so far... I have also had a 690, not the enduro but the 16's duke (the 75Hp one). Let me give you an advice in a humble way, train, make the effort and hang up with the bike. If you get to the point where you and the bike become one, oooh you are going to be in for a reeeal treat... Respect and great video!
Interesting article. I guess it comes down to your needs and the unicorn changes over time. I’m generally overbiked but as long as that doesn’t overwhelm I’m happy. My GSA became just too bulky and heavy (and terrible BMW quality and service didn’t help) and my DCT ATAS better but not right for me. My unicorn now is an 890 Adventure ( non R) suits my needs whilst still being fun and capable. I have just bought a 690 in the US to do the TAT next year. I’m hoping my unicorn. We’ll see….. Best, Ian
Well I'm ditching my 501 for the 701. Definitely love the 500 platform, it's just about perfect. Except for those long highway miles, not that the 700 is a good for highways, but it's engine can handle it and doesn't struggle as much.
I'm in the exact same position as you right now. I live and travel in a camper, so I have to watch the weight, but still want enough power for longer rides as well on road as off road
I'm gonna come over and replace that damn fire alarm battery myself. :D
LOL!! please do ha ha!
Well done and a good explanation of picking the right tool for the job. Can't wait to see the 450l vids and your thoughts on it. The 701 and 690 never visually appealed to me, kind of like the design team said " there, good enough". Lol
Why not the KTM 350 EXC-F ? Thanks for the video
I was going to say the exact same thing. My Husqvarna FE350S would probably be the ideal tool for the terrain (and rider) shown in the video. Or the orange version.
I also own the 701 enduro. Totally understand being worn out (non-confident) on that tight single track.
I don't quite understand. Crf450L is same weight, less power with terrible maintenance intervals.
I think the EXC500 weighs 250, 690/701 320lbs, crf450L 310lbs.
You said you are exhausted, probly from weight. Only real change from the Honda will be longer suspension/higher seat?
The 450rl does not weigh 310
If you can't do 50 push ups, don't ride your 701 on single track. I love it for the power and weight on paved sections and nuclear powered couch on gravel, it is definitely a handful on technical single track but really fun on the flowy stuff you're showing.
Great video. Agree 100% - the is 701 is an awesome bike but too big & heavy for the single tracks that you like doing. My sort of riding is very similar to yours (but in Australia). I had a WR250R for 2 years and then wanted more performance etc. It came down to a choice of the 450L and a KTM/Husky 500/350 etc. I ended up getting a used Husky FE501. Extremely happy with this bike as it's lighter weight than 450L, has bigger tank, better seat (in my opinion), hydraulic clutch, amazing suspension, no fuel/throttle issues. If you put less aggressive tyres on it, it goes ok on the road up to 70 mph, and can easily be used as a Dual Sport bike. My 501 has 1.5 litres oil capacity so maintenance intervals are pretty much the same as the 450L as I'm not racing it. I'm sure the 450L would also be fantastic for your needs, but you should also consider KTM 500 and Husky FE501.
oh man the 501 is amazing!! I almost got the 501 but ended up with the te250i instead because 2 strokes run cooler when barely moving. the 501 or ktm 500 is for sure the better do it all machine if you just want 1 machine. to be honest, sometimes I think of selling everything I have and just getting the 501 for simplicity ha ha, but I know I will want more bikes anyways. cheers
@@RWWRENTAL, I was thinking I’d try a 250 or 300 two stroke as my next bike. With your 701 and the 250, I don’t think you really need the 450L, but I guess you can never have too many bikes.
Don't forget the Beta 500 RR-S
Great video, great narration, whilst I understand your point of view which you presented very well, I have the 690 enduro R, and whilst the honda has a weight advantage (around 25-30 kilos) fully fuelled, the problem is firstly the fuel tank capacity which limits the range of the bike, but as you say, it very much depends what your use for the bike is. I do ride with mates who have cruisers, so I do some tarmac, and the honda will work way to hard on the freeway. But, the biggest downfall of the CRF in my view is the service and maintenance intervals. Thanks for the video, looking forward to more.
The 450L is great on main roads, it easily sits at 70mph and could easily go faster. Range is about 130 miles with the IMS tank, and most people service around 1000-1200 mile interval, plenty of UA-cam test on how the oil copes beyond the recommended 600 mile interval point. It takes 15 mins to drop the oil and change the filter, which for me is easily worth it for the advantages you get over the 701, weight is king when the going gets tough.
From my experience I will go with the Honda. Better dealership network. For example I pass 3 Honda dealers before I see a KTM dealer which is over 90 miles away. Plus I have never seen any European motorcycle manufacturer ranked higher in quality than the Japanese.
Check fortnine video on dirty oil comparison. Ktm and bmw had cleanest used oil.
It sounds like you need some more seat time on your klx to inspire some more confidence on your end. The 701 is not too big for single track just rider limitations. If you load your bikes up anyway just bring the two strokes so you're not "limited"
has nothing to do with ability, its more of endurance...and I am in shape.. Yeah I did a single track called 770, which is on this video but to make it more cinimatic, it was mostly drone shots...... so I dont quite understand where you getting this.
And on the 701 which many wont do 770 ST here in Colorado with something that size due to how tight it is but it wears you out, i had no issue ability wise so I am not sure what you talking about "need more confidence". We had a guy who had a 701 and we took him on a single track called poplar gulch and he couldnt make it 1/2 way up with it. I mean, if you are ever in CO, I would love to drag you on some of our 2 stroke single tracks on that thing. would be an awesome site to see you on the 701 on them. if you ever filmed steep rocky trails, you know very well camera hides depth. either way, LMK if you ever in CO I will lend you the 701 for free
@@RWWRENTAL I'm aware of the gopro effect and how it can make those trails look. What I'm getting to is I know for a fact that the 701 can do it, with a different rider. I'm sure you are capable of doing it you just need to ride some beginner bikes more and go up in size as you get more comfortable. You can ride the klx much easier in more difficult trails, you said it yourself. More seat time in that bike will allow you to be comfortable on the big bike. By the way I will be sure to take you up on that offer when I make my way west next year when I move back to east coast from hawaii. No need to borrow your bike :)
@@bobbybecker8834 oh no the 701 can def do it, but its an endurance issue for me. I mostly ride my TE250 2 stroke though and of course thats the easiest bike to ride bc its so light lol. But I borrowed my friends 450L and it felt way more nimble on the tighter stuff and didnt tire me out as much. as weird as it sounds, the 701 enduro made my legs sore the day I did 770 single track and I work out legs so found it surprising. but the 2 stroke and KLX never made my legs sore.
Well if you do, need to def come to CO. there is tons of beautiful single track that I dont post on my YT! would love to show you around and the 701 will be here if you decide to use it and would be cool to see it in the tight stuff on a 2nd angle! cheers!
You made a very great point! kind of opened my eyes who the crf450L is really for. I think the crf450L is right dab in the middle of the ktm500 and 701 enduro, which I think is perfect for everything. If you only do hard enduro and single track with 100 dirt use, might as well go with ktm500, but for your addition of bikes, the crf450L will be better.
If Kawasaki just made a Klx400 with a 4 gallon tank and 34" seat height around 300 lbs, we would all finally have the unicorn bike. Great job on your videos.
Someone inspired by Fortnine production. Nice review.
thanks buddy! yeahh he is an amazing video editor!! i like him a lot, but I dont even compare lol
This makes so much sense to me. I have a taller DR650, RMZ450 forks, raised cogent. It’s almost taller than a CRF and heavier by a good 70 to 80lbs. My confidence on it when things get scary is no good. On the CRF, I can build some of that confidence I need, pick it up when I dump it, practice some technical skills with a little more ease. I love the DR but the way I have it setup is no good.
Can I ask what in your opinion makes the CRF450L more Road worthy over the KTM 500 EXC-F?
I’m currently riding a DRZ-400S and I’m looking to upgrade into something bigger and better, but I’m in a similar dilemma to you where I want a bike that is designed for singletrack trail use and is confidence inspiring enough to take out on my own, but is still fairly road capable for connecting segments on the highway.
I’ve seen a lot of others turn the KTM500 into an ADV set up for mixed road/trail BDR routes, but I’m really interested to hear what puts the CRF450L over the KTM for you. Thanks
I’ve owned several DRZs and they are fun and reliable with long gaps between service intervals….but they weigh 320lbs and make 33 hp. Oh…and only a 5 speed. I have also owned a KTM 500 dual sport…and it does EVERYTHING better than A DRZ400. It weighs 60lbs less and will hit 100plus. The down fall: you’ll be checking valve lash every 15-20 hours, cleaning and changing filter along with an oil change. I got the whole process down to 3 hours and a few beers. My thoughts….The performance difference over the DRZ is so great, it’s well worth the effort.
I have the 2019 Honda crf450l. Nobody ever tells you its cheaper on insurance in these videos. I pay 38 Canadian dollars a month. that's like 20 US dollars. I bet the Husky is at least 100/month.
I wonder where in all this a slightly modded and lightened XR650L would fit, seeing as simple is reliable, out there in the middle of nowhere.
As heavy as the Fe701 with substantially less power, not sure it’s in the same league as the CRF or Fe....
@@0TheWholeShabang0 to me the power of the 701 is part of the problem. It's hard to relax riding it.
For the kind of trails you are riding a trial motorcycle at 140 to 160 pounds is a much better choice than the 701 or 450. Its light almost unbreakable use little fuel and is very cheap to buy. And you can go in place only trial motorcycles are able to go. My advice keep your 701 for fast riding and buy a trial 2 stroke motorcycle for the real fun part of off-road motorcycling and it will cost you less than selling your 701 and put all the necessary stuff on the 450 to avoid the flame out and make it rideable at slow speed.
Great video. Your logic is sound.
Wonderful video.... presented so well! You are truly blessed my Brother. Enjoy it all.
thanks so much!
I replaced my 2007 Honda XR650L & chose the 2020 KTM ENDURO 690R & for my needs is a awesome motorcycle, I thought for money the 701 & 690R were a better deal but like one comment it's up to each of us what motorcycle fits our needs
I grew up throwing a klr650 around on single track here in the black hills SD, I've also owned proper enduro bikes (gasgas 300, wr450) the 690/801 is not as flickable in the tight stuff but I enjoy the added challenge. It really is the best do everything bike, but not anything perfect.
I agree. I have a 2020 690. It’s awesome. Maybe not for ripping single track or doing technical enduro... but do a couple mods, like steering damper and some suspension upgrades and it’s a damn hard bike to beat. It pretty much is perfect lol!
The 701 in the vid is the older generation. It does not have the newer improved suspension, balanced motor and other goodies.
Like your videos. I too have a 690 and I am not sure I can part with the bike. Here in NM, pretty much the same as CO. I can ride 4 miles from my house and access hundred's of miles of desert single track, and then about 30 minutes to some mountain single track. The 690 does great in the desert but can be a handful in the mtn single track. I am fortunate enough to have a few bikes. Super Tenere, TE250, KLX140G. Been riding with friends on 350's, and I am totally impressed with the light weight and power. The FE350 will be my next bike in the near future to add to my stable. But I can't part with the 690. Would like to see how you feel about the Honda. I have a buddy who just bought one, I have not had a chance to take it for a spin.
Of course CRF 450 L + camper....... is better than 701 enduro . No need to be genius or even go and test this out........but it is not better than 701 + transport helicopter....
Very well made video. I currently ride an XR650L and recently spent a few days on a Vitpilen 701 as a bit of an experiment and to experience the Husky 701 thumper. That thing flat out RIPS. From a performance standpoint, I've never ridden a thumper that even comes close. However... I honestly cannot imagine trying to harness that angry thing on tight single track or in technical dirt riding. It's just too much. You'll never actually use all of that power. I had trouble doing so on the street!
Anyway, this is a very long-winded way of saying that I completely agree with your sentiments on this, and I think my hesitations are being confirmed. I don't think the 701 Enduro will be the bike to replace my 650L.
Dude, I had the same vision about my drz as you've got about your xr 650l. Until I bought and rode my Husqvarna 701 Enduro. I'm sorry to say, nothing compares to the 701. It handles all terrain and single tracks like a dream. Please try one out for a few days 👌
Where is the singletrack you are riding at here? New to CO and looking for some good/scenic trails
Why switch brands, why not get a 501 or a 500 exc-f. If you don’t plan on riding street at all then the ktm 250xcf-w or even the 500 xcf-w.
The Honda 450L is a wonderful motorcycle indeed much less powerful and also lightweight for riding singles than the 701 which is a tiring motorcycle without a shadow of a doubt for such a task. I actually see a problem with Honda in terms of use it on the public road also in terms of long-term seat comfort. Am I right?
Yes You need the 701 it’s the best hybrid
"almost near" ?
Your ride cases are favorising a lighter bike. A motorcycle is not better than the other. It is a matter of preferences.
I like both motorcycles but the lack of a rubber hub on the Honda makes me chose the 701. That and the fact that i wont do single tracks.
I'm currently looking for a 701 or 690 I think either one would be perfect for me as I don't have much of technical single track riding to do here in NW Minnesota but I do need to keep up with traffic.
The 701 is not built for single track… it can do it… but ! If you are in to that kind of riding, the 500 exc is a good choice. Lots of power, light weight and World class suspension. The Honda also has short service intervals by the way…. It`s not a scaled up version of the crf 250 !! It`s like the 500 exc… only with less power.
Nice edit. Good video.
Pretty good video but one thing you said that wasn't totally accurate was the weight difference between the crf450rl and the klx250, which I have owned. The curb weights are within 15 pounds. In fact the 2021 crf450rl has a curb weight of 291 and the new klx300 has a curb weight of 304. And yes, they are accurate weights.
I believe I said the cr450L is lighter than the klx
Coming from a klx351 to a crf450l, definitely a big power increase and much better suspension. Although slightly lighter, single track is still a handful. For my riding it is a good compromise.
Frank, was your KLX suspension stock?
Actually, stock with a lowering link so not ideal. But same applies to the crf450l and hasn't affected the performance for my style of riding. BB351 kit is the best bang for the buck on the klx. Gave it lots of wheel spinning torque but no big HP gain.
The 701 is the compromise no one really needs. I really want one, such a great machine, but what is it really good at? Too heavy for the tough trails, too skinny for the highway.
The reality is, all bikes compromise something... If you just want one bike, you need it to a lot of things well, not great. I look at the 690/701 like I do a Jeep. It can go just about anywhere, but not the best anything... BTW, 701 goes on the highway just fine.
@@jordesign True points. I chose the T7 instead. Best compromise for me.
@@timsalabimbombassa T7 and a KTM 350 would about perfect.
Maybe a custom Enduro tune for the 701 to soften the bottom end would help.
701 690 is the perfect compromise for many and an extremely popular bike
Dank whoolies brah, I went messing about today, did some slow wheelie and pivot turn practice, banged some gravel roads at 70mph, romped on some twisty pavement and hoisted about 50 long 3rd gear wheelies on the straight stretches in between. Fun.
if you ever get to the east coast let's go for a ride! or if not let's go for a ride.
On the 701, where did you end up on the rear preload and how much do you weigh?
Crf450l is cool bike, but high maintenance. I vould get 1 before I got my crf250l, but because I'm only hobby rider, on easy dirt roads, I don't like the idea of crf450l service intervals, and high price. Double the crf250l.
Ideally you would have 5 or 6 bikes to cover every situation. But who has that kind of money!!
or space ha ha! even if you had the space and money, maintaining the bikes would suck :/ its like urghhh now I have to change the oil on 10 more bikes
Extremely well done video and I agree with your conclusions!
Ok, review and dilemma aside...how did you take those wonderful aerial video shots?
If you would get the suspension re valved, might’ve got better👍love my 690, but use it as an adventure bike, and dual sport. I also have a 1090 Adventure R, for longer adventure rides✌️ everybody’s situation is different, and lots of great motorcycles out their👍
Todd I am also looking at a 690 for a second bike. I cannot get rid of my 1090!
Meh. Horses for courses. I have a xr650r weighs just a bit more than a Crf450L. I ride that singletrack, street. . Wherever. Also have a 500exc. Comfort on thst seems same as the Crf450L on street. Being 30 lbs plus lighter helps. Dont enjoy the 500exc on street as much as the xr650r. Real ugly single track? Got to get out and home? Xr250r.
I live in Denver and want to get into trail riding. Where do you find all these trails??
Makes me want a CRf450 upgrade from klx250
I am definitely in the market for the crf450L and it for sure feels better than the KLX250, but everything is still sold out lol
I came from a KLX250SF and XT250 to my CRF450L. I love love love the change
Will, have you had your suspension tuned on your KLX? I let Noleen work mine over and it transformed the bike. I had them lower it 2” because I’m interested in single track. Very affordable. The suspension is awesome now.
You make excellent videos brother. I've said it before and I'll say it again.👍🌲
I appreciate it buddy!
I ride an old xr and I've never once met someone who can go somewhere I can't, they are just faster.
500 exc is mad you forgot about it.
whelp... if the 450 CRF is superior for its nimbleness and enhanced technical capabilities... then the KTM 500 exc is probably the real holy grail. Except for it's long range limitations on pavement... it's still the most logical... and most balanced option bike on the planet... to do it all.... well.
I went with a 500exc because it’s lighter than the 450l.
Both wet there’s not much difference
@@lockednloaded105 pretty sure it's still 25lbs or so.
100% accurate. I agree
I guess he figured most people do not choose to buy/or don’t buy a 10k motorcycle with 25 pounds of weight being the deciding factor.
And he’s right.
It’s hard to beleive that’s the reason you got the EXC.
But some people absolutely do.
It helps that you can strip a quick 12 pounds of emissions Ect.. off a 450RL if your determined.
But why fucking bother if you can handle the Husky.
(I’d be dead).
Dream come true bike.
How it is at 55mph on a road?
Good video dude!
How about the drz 400?? It works??
DRZ400 is a great machine. I have it still and dont plan on getting rid of it. but the crf450L feels more "modern" you can say and smoother.
@@RWWRENTAL so the Honda is smoother than the Beta or exc 500?
@@wayward03 the crf450L feels way better vs the ktm500 on the road and normal trails comfort wise and smoothness. i found the ktm500 to be pretty buzzy, which dont bother me but think the crf450L is a much better exploring machine vs the ktm500. but the ktm500 is a better gnarly hard enduro machine
honest evaluation about your riding skills, but the 450L is not the answer to your problems. It's heavy and for basic trails ok, but stock it is going to handle worse than the 701. KTM EXCF would be a much better trail/road motorcycle. For the dirt trade off you will lose out huge on the road compared to the 701. Not even in the same category as a Honda CRF-450L.
EXCF is not nearly as comfortable on the road. The 701 is so much better on the road. I see the 450L as that compromise. Not as good as the EXC off road (but still fantastic), but as comfortable on the road as the 710, maybe more so. Honda put a lot of effort into killing vibes, noise, etc. 500 EXC a vibey rattletrap. 450L not as powerful as the 701 but you honestly can't use more than about 50hp off road in most cases, unless you are desert racing as an expert. Also have read many accounts saying the 450L can honestly go longer in maintenance intervals if you are not stressing it in an off road racing environment. So I see the point of this video. The big 701/690 are probably the best most capable dual sports ever made. Yet they demand more from the rider. It's like having a supermodel girlfriend. Fantastic, the envy of all. But maybe kind of exhausting.
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Nice video Bro
Yes I am from Australia so long makes it the 701 LR for sure
Thanks for sharing your time for us
Excellent rationale! 👍
that motor will never be low maintence
Would be nice to have one of each 😂👍🏻
Husqvarna 501 is my answer .
awesome countryside dude ✌
It’s all subjective, good video
So, summary:
701 is too heavy and powerful for this particular rider on single track and more technical riding; and likely is for many others in similar riding conditions. Even a 450 can be hard work in such terrain, where a 250 is not, but, a 250 really lacks power when the terrain opens up. So, a 450/500 single is a sweet sport for average riders exploring tighter and more technical terrain but still wanting enough power to happily pull 70+mph on roads or open terrain. Fit, advanced riders can get whatever pleases them and can probably ride it damn near anywhere.
That's my experience as well. My buddy has a klx 250,exc 500 and a 690 Enduro R, I used to have a DRZ 400. The klx was the easiest to ride, the 500 was a close second and way more fun and the drz was only better than the 690 because the power was easier to manage.
I'm great beginner/ poor intermediate rider so single track on anything but the klx and exc was not very fun. My buddy who is a fair bit better had the same thoughts just enjoys the power more.
Yes yes yes. So that 450/500 sweet spot. But the manufacturers are afraid to make a really great 450/600 ADV - the "unicorn" - because they are protecting their huge profits from the big two cylinder overweight ADV models that are so expensive. Huge money makers. Yet something like a 450L that is more similar to the CRF300 Rally would be such a terrific compromise bike that a lot of riders would realize that is better, and they would not sell the Africa Twins and 1250GS liter plus ADVs in the same numbers. Notice also how KTM is not selling a serious middle weight ADV, only a 350 and a 690! Same with BMW! And all the rest for that matter. A glaring hole in the lineup and this is exactly why. Monster huge ADV bikes are a huge business for them.
WAY TOO HEAVY HANDED. COULD HAVE DONE WITHOUT ALL THE DRAMA / CINEMATIC INTROSPECTION
Way too much maintenance on the 450.
Crf300 rally
If I wanted maintenance I would buy the ktm 500excf. The Honda is a pig.
BS
If you want a honda go get one.
sold out all over CO so will have to wait. they even say they have deposits until 2022
the service intervals is a huge turn off for me. i rack up too many miles