2019 Honda CRF450L vs Husqvarna FE501

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Wes and Chance tackle the challenge to ride the new 2019 Honda CRF450L head to head with the Husqvarna FE501. Check out their evaluation of the strengths of each bike and see which bike they prefer.
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  • @KevinBoutelle
    @KevinBoutelle 5 років тому +50

    Good on Honda for recognizing what KTM (and now Beta, Gas Gas, Sherco, etc) has known for YEARS! There IS a market for street legal dirtbikes and we need more of them!

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 Рік тому +2

      Maybe you should mention that to Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki.

    • @christopherbassit2757
      @christopherbassit2757 3 місяці тому +1

      @@captainamerica9353Yamaha use to make a wr250r idk why they stopped. The wr450f was always being converted to street legal but idk why they never made a wr450r I would’ve bought it instantly

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 3 місяці тому

      @@christopherbassit2757- you have to live in Oz to have a legal 450. Yamaha is missing a big market in the U.S.

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 5 років тому +3

    Great review - appreciate the focus on engine characteristics at the end. Nice work! Thanks1

  • @kyjelly5524
    @kyjelly5524 5 років тому +4

    Excellent job. I’ve seen reviews and nobody else mentioned all the vibration dampening items that the Honda has. It’s good to know that it’s a lot smoother on the road.

  • @dannypeterson1522
    @dannypeterson1522 4 роки тому +1

    Best bike comparison video on the internet. Well Done! And a Big thank you from all the viewers...

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  4 роки тому

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Are you getting one of these bikes?

  • @clintonfrizzell8467
    @clintonfrizzell8467 5 років тому +1

    Thanks guys, this was a great comparison!

  • @TheCarPassionChannel
    @TheCarPassionChannel 5 років тому

    Great review, hit on all the points one should consider if shopping between these bikes

  • @CR500R
    @CR500R 5 років тому +59

    The days of the $15k dirtbike are just around the corner. Gotta love it!

    • @kavik526town2
      @kavik526town2 2 роки тому +2

      they're almost here :(

    • @evantomer1336
      @evantomer1336 2 роки тому +7

      This comment aged well. Those days are here my friend and they came too soon

    • @CR500R
      @CR500R 2 роки тому +1

      @@evantomer1336 It's a sad day. We won't see "normal" prices again in our lifetime. Things will get better in 2024, but by then people and companies will be comfortably numb to the price gouging, so things will continue at the inflated rates. You won't see a new, modern mx or enduro bike for $10k or under. 😞

    • @dimitrisathanasiou1521
      @dimitrisathanasiou1521 4 місяці тому +1

      sadly you are proven correct...
      please advise with lottery numbers aswell!

    • @christopherbassit2757
      @christopherbassit2757 3 місяці тому

      😢 those days are here

  • @8power0
    @8power0 5 років тому +1

    VERY COOL..., CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THESE BIKES ACCESSORIZE THANKS .

  • @zrkn1
    @zrkn1 5 років тому +11

    I love this type of real world review where two different size riders swap bakes back and forth. It gives a more complete picture of the bikes ups and downs. So huge THUMBS UP to RMATVMC for all you guys do for the motorcycle riders of the world. Ride On...

  • @omarfernandez8576
    @omarfernandez8576 5 років тому +1

    AWSOME review, cant wait for the update...

  • @env7174hs
    @env7174hs 5 років тому +5

    Yes, I like these type of reviews. 👍🏽

  • @dontfrankitupfrank1479
    @dontfrankitupfrank1479 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video and very fair initial review

  • @jasminebeth5328
    @jasminebeth5328 4 роки тому +5

    Guy on the Honda said “what do you get for $900.00” (more), referring to the more expensive Husky. What I would have said “1/2 gallon more fuel, hydro clutch, 8+ more HP, and 40lbs less weight.” Oh yeah, “hand guards too, and a more forgiving Chromoly frame”. Let’s see them drop 20lbs on the Honda for under $900.00;-). Not hating on the Honda, and it’s good there are more choices in this category of motorcycle, but I just got a bit of a biased feel from the review at times. Overall however, enjoyable and good review. Thanks

    • @jasminebeth5328
      @jasminebeth5328 4 роки тому +2

      Justin Rios, LoL. Of course a bike that weighs that much should last a geologic era. Seriously, the Honda does have its reputation for quality, but I would not count my maintenance eggs before they hatch. Especially on a new model bike. Coming from someone who has experience with post Austrian Husky’s and Honda CRF-X 450’s, the most important factor is proper maintenance. BTW, my TE was just as reliable as my brothers 450x. 👍

  • @viktorsa8
    @viktorsa8 5 років тому +2

    Great review, thanks!

  • @coldfiredog
    @coldfiredog 5 років тому

    Great video. I liked the review format. Keep up the good wok.

  • @LichaelMewis
    @LichaelMewis 2 роки тому +3

    Just got my brand new 2022 450RL yesterday at an amazing price 9200 + tax. Awesome machine. Can't wait to ride it more than what I've had a chance to do far. Already ordered a throttle taming kit. I think I could get used to it as is but got it to be on the safe side.

  • @camothewise8608
    @camothewise8608 5 років тому +4

    Amazing review guys thanks a lot. I’m even more stuck than I was before hahaha

  • @donparker1823
    @donparker1823 5 років тому +3

    Fun to see a bike test right in my own neighborhood. I've got a CRF250L Rally and I had to beef up the suspension. Feels much better (safer) off road.

  • @DC8223
    @DC8223 5 років тому +2

    Great reviews dudes 🤘🤙

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip 5 років тому +4

    Great review guys, only interesting thing that could have been added is the maintenance schedule of both bikes (valve check and oil change).

  • @isaacmissi5920
    @isaacmissi5920 5 років тому +18

    As a person working in the injection molding field it's hard to believe a welded titanium tank could be cheaper...

    • @richardvalitalo3670
      @richardvalitalo3670 3 роки тому

      Because it's so small lol

    • @mrvv8337
      @mrvv8337 3 роки тому +1

      I agree, but maybe creating all the moulds and dies for production arrives at a loss compared to the dies to stamp out the metal "titanium" tank.

  • @JB-mo8rs
    @JB-mo8rs 3 роки тому +3

    I should’ve pulled the trigger on a ‘19 Beta 390. Right before the lockdown, they were on sale for only $8,700!!!

  • @Nostrildomus
    @Nostrildomus 5 років тому

    A little R & R is what we wanted and Rocky Mountain brought Realistic Review instead . Good Job , Thanks Guy's

  • @lennyrivera2366
    @lennyrivera2366 5 років тому +1

    Finally a good review on the 2bikes I'm looking at

    • @chrisblanchard4938
      @chrisblanchard4938 4 роки тому

      #Lenny Rivera Hey i know this is a long shot of you seeing my comment but I see that a year ago you were looking at these 2 bikes and I was curious if you did get a new bike and was it one of these? I am looking at the Honda 450L and the ktm 500 exc-f and wanted some feed back on the bike you bought.

  • @johnlittle4508
    @johnlittle4508 5 років тому

    I have a DR 650 and looking to upgrade was a great video

  • @nostalgicbaainaar9751
    @nostalgicbaainaar9751 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for this video guys. You are the first to do a comparison video with the Honda. Seems to me the Honda will make a much better base for a lightweight adventure bike. It's for this reason alone that I think it will sell better than the European performance dual sports offerings. It's going to be hugely popular.

  • @briananderson2219
    @briananderson2219 2 роки тому

    Excellent video enjoyed it very much

  • @CurtisSound
    @CurtisSound 5 років тому +54

    It's worth mentioning that the Husky 501 comes with a 6 month warranty. The Honda 450L comes with a 1 year warranty that can be extended an additional 5 years.

    • @anonymousanonymous8306
      @anonymousanonymous8306 5 років тому +9

      It's worth noting the 701 comes with 2 year warranty if that's important to you.

    • @oso1165
      @oso1165 5 років тому +22

      @@anonymousanonymous8306 and a Hyundai comes with a 10 year warranty. what's your point? totally different bike lmfao

    • @anonymousanonymous8306
      @anonymousanonymous8306 5 років тому +5

      @@oso1165 Yes, the 701 is a man's bike.

    • @zackaryk2000
      @zackaryk2000 5 років тому +9

      @@oso1165 the 500/501 are totally different bikes than the 450L, yet here they are being compared with shit like warranty life. Lmao. That's the point.

    • @cjohn3937
      @cjohn3937 5 років тому +5

      5 year extended plan for another $1500 you mean.

  • @gershomberg5408
    @gershomberg5408 4 роки тому +1

    Planning on doing the Baja 1000 and this video helps a lot. I think I’ll go with the 450 Honda over the 250, just need a larger tank

  • @outoftheboxwoodworks7560
    @outoftheboxwoodworks7560 5 років тому

    Great review, Keep it up!

  • @wfodavid
    @wfodavid 5 років тому +1

    Nice vid guys! Glad to see some competition for KTM (Husky) for a change. For me (17 KTM 500) the weight is going to be Huge. can't wait to see the next vid. Keep up the great work.

  • @TubaSteve369
    @TubaSteve369 5 років тому

    Great review excellent content!

  • @509FUN
    @509FUN 2 роки тому +2

    After a few weeks on the 501 I think people are full of it there’s no vibrations at all unless your up in the rpm’s and literally every single cylinder bike has that it’s normal for the single cylinder… not sure what people complain about. On the road if you ride it right low in the rpm’s it’s smooth as butter with all the power as high because it’s lower gear ratio

  • @FErdr20
    @FErdr20 5 років тому +3

    Just picked up a new FE501 a month ago in Kamloops, BC Canada. Had it for six days. Did the 1 hour service and at 5hrs the engine started making a terrible screeching noise. Its been at a warranty approved shop now for 25 days and they are still waiting for Husqvarna to make up their mind regarding changing all the moving internal parts or ship a new engine from Austria or simply put it together and let me ride it till it leaves me stranded. The shop cannot find the source of the noise however the mechanic and Husqvarna rep agree something is seriously wrong. Also being that this bike is street legal I have paid for a month of insurance I haven't been able to use. Additionally I have essentially missed out on the best time of year to ride. I guess my philosophy of saving to 'buy the best and cry once' hasnt held true this time. Luckily my 2006 RMZ 450 hasn't sold and is still going strong.

    • @MaggotDiggo1
      @MaggotDiggo1 2 роки тому +2

      A couple of years on, did they fix your bike? You still got it?

    • @FErdr20
      @FErdr20 2 роки тому +1

      @@MaggotDiggo1 yeah still working good at 200 hours. They found the flywheel keyhole wasn't properly lined up so the flywheel was rubbing on the cover making a screeching noise. The engine makes a lot of mechanical noise but has been running fine other then the slave cylinder crapping out at 30hrs which I hear was common. Warranty paid for the part and I changed it. Clutch pull is a bit heavier but at least it hasnt stopped working.

  • @traxstarz9313
    @traxstarz9313 3 роки тому +1

    Perfect review LOVED IT!!!!!!!

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! - Wes

  • @hoosiertrailrider
    @hoosiertrailrider 5 років тому +41

    Well done guys. I rode a new 450L two weeks ago at my local dealership. I really liked it. It was smooth, light clutch pull, comfortable, felt light and was easy to pivot turn from a stop. I regularly ride a CRF250X and an XR650L. I think the new Honda will be the ONE bike for me, letting me get rid of the two. My only complaint is the price. I feel a bike like this should be priced in the 7500.00 range. I think Honda simply priced it like the European offerings because they can.

    • @mohba01
      @mohba01 5 років тому

      Hi there.. i am building a CRF250X with a zongshen (NC250) motor in it. I could really take some feedback on installing a Cush Hub kit for the CRF250X. would you recommend it ?? I hear the crf450X cush hub wheels are a direct swap. looking forward to your reponse. Also happen to own a XR650L !! cheers.

    • @michaelj.kastner5165
      @michaelj.kastner5165 5 років тому +1

      T Bahr Honda Monkey 125, out the door , non abs, taxes,title,tag,set up,delivery,etc- $5100.00. The world we live in. Everything is super expensive!! I don’t think its priced to high, especially when you compare it next to a Monkey-125

    • @micaKTM1290
      @micaKTM1290 5 років тому +3

      Honda's are always a bit pricey compared the other Japanese bikes. In this case, I think they priced it like this so it wouldn't be thought of as an inferior bike, budget bike to the KTM and Husky's.

    • @zackaryk2000
      @zackaryk2000 5 років тому +8

      @@micaKTM1290 That's exactly what they should have done, because half the appeal of traditional Japanese dual sports is they are economical compared to Euro bikes, at the cost of a bit of performance. $8,500-$9,000 price range and their sales would shit on KTM/Husky in this category. But they got greedy.

    • @TheGDizzo
      @TheGDizzo 5 років тому +3

      Definitely agree with you on the pricing aspect. And C'Mon... they've been crankin out CRF450's for some time now so it's not like they had to do all that much re-tooling either.

  • @humancoin-proofofuniqueness

    I loved your video, I would love it more if you talked about weights and horse power too

  • @robertjames6687
    @robertjames6687 5 років тому +3

    I really enjoyed the comparison. Plus you have the opinions of a heavier rider (which is what I am). Great video.

  • @raphaelpommier
    @raphaelpommier 5 років тому

    great format for reviews! nice to get the third person view!

  • @reggieholguin7907
    @reggieholguin7907 4 роки тому +1

    Good review good job guys

  • @m.r.t9298
    @m.r.t9298 5 років тому +2

    I appreciate the reviews. I think you should have thrown them on the scales though.

  • @beachbarlouie7522
    @beachbarlouie7522 2 роки тому +4

    One thing I would like to point out, is that the extra vibrations that exist on the street also exist off-road, and contributes to fatigue. You may not notice it from the other bumps and hits, but it continues to wear at you.

  • @beejaytee
    @beejaytee 5 років тому +3

    Great review and not bias based on power or brand which is refreshing. I think you are missing a key component to dualsport or light adventure which is cruising speed vs rpm. I definitely would like to know where these stack up at street and highway speed (45/65) in that regard. Can’t wait to see the light adv build vids. Nice work.

    • @andyblack5687
      @andyblack5687 5 років тому +1

      I read somewhere that the Honda was doing 6300 RPM at 65 mph. That sounds a little high to be comfortable and get good fuel economy but I guess with the dampened parts you wouldn't feel the vibes maybe, I've seen dyno runs where the Honda has about a 10,200 RPM rev limiter that was good for just under 90 MPH. It has a six speed trans so it seems geared pretty low overall to me. My DR650 will barely to 6,500 RPM and it will do right at 100 MPH with only a five speed gearbox.

  • @smilebro100
    @smilebro100 5 років тому +2

    i cant tell that its early in the morning like you suggested in the intro

  • @justonp1981
    @justonp1981 5 років тому +2

    I'd like to see a comparison of the Husqvarna FE350 and the Honda CRF450L.
    But thanks for doing this comparison.

  • @dougcovert1454
    @dougcovert1454 5 років тому +7

    I've ridden red for 25 years..
    82 xr 80
    89 xr 250
    86 xr 600
    99 xr 600
    07 xr 650 l
    Currently a plated 01 xr 400 an I can hang with the best on it...honda has never let me down!

  • @dmsentra
    @dmsentra 5 років тому +2

    The Beta dualsports were available last year too, not just the ktm and Husky

  • @getslimdad
    @getslimdad 5 років тому

    looking forward to the many extra after market gizmos to make the 450L a light weight adventure bike. recently had to sell my 2010 CRF450X that was very modified for adventure riding, here is a list of what was done to the bike. large front screen - a must - period, TRX double compression piston with Cosworth DLC coated wrist pin, manual chain tensioner (not needed though), oil cooler, synthetic coolant (boils at 185*C) with thermo fan and temp sensor switch, KOYO bearings throughout, 40mm lowering link, 2" bar risers, MAP2 Nav tower, ICO, Trailtek Vapor speedo, tacho etc, soft rally grips, fastway footpegs, 5"LED spot beam main light, 2 x 10W LED low beam lights, rewired for 150W DC stator with extra heavy flywheel, CRF450R Head, stock cam, SS valves, manual chain tensioner, TM design works chain slider and chain guide, Steel sprockets, Z-VMX520 chain (only chain to fit for min wear and max life), wider seat, After market silencer + re-jet, oil changes using Motol 300V in gearbox and engine min 1000km(oil still clean like new), easily out to 2000km on easy riding, force clutch cover giving +150mm oil capacity, B&B Safari Rally Bashplate with water container, Safari 20L front tank, Safari 5L rear tank, full rewire for min access maintenance, list goes on. It had one major flaw - only 5 gears. Suspension, re-valved, otherwise stock for fatso here 115kg with gear +25kg of luggage. The TRX piston derates the bike a bit but gives + 6000-10,000km before requiring a new one. Is this bike that much better, will like to ride and see. hopefully the fuel injection will improve the fuel economy, bike on adventure riding ranged between 18km/L-20km/L, (freeway riding at 100-110km/hr about 21km/L), stock exhaust and stock jetting etc with no screen 12-17km/L. one thing though you could ride it any way, any conditions, and it was easy to ride, much easier than a KTM or Husaberg / Husky bike, but a lot heavier (fully fuelled about 145kg, +15kg camping gear +10L extra fuel - long distances between fuel here in Australian outback up to 550km some places in Western Australia. on fuel economy the KTM would win hands down every time, so the newer 450L with 6 gears and fuel injection would be a nice contest. oh, and for all thos di hard nuts, get the piston and head + valves ceramic coated, and the sides of the piston properly Teflon coated for way longer life.

  • @peterbassham
    @peterbassham 5 років тому +18

    I'm on my 4th rear fender for the husky and 2nd hydraulic clutch slave cylinder (the seal failed) in 900 miles. Maybe the cable clutch is not so bad.

    • @patshore8448
      @patshore8448 5 років тому +6

      Peter Callies their is something about simplicity 👍

    • @Camiaz88
      @Camiaz88 5 років тому

      Truth, I broke the plate holder on my TE450, so just modified it a little and moved plate to a different part of the plastic that still remained. I get pulled over every so often for plate visibility (or general curiosity), but it's not so bad. The clutch master cylinder on mine leaks. Took it apart and found the same issue as most: anodizing flakes off inside of cylinder. Still haven't replaced it, no need since it doesn't leak bad enough.

    • @bluedolphin5792
      @bluedolphin5792 3 роки тому

      I've raced bikes with hydraulic clutches enduros and cross country for 20 years without a problem, just lucky I guess.

  • @TheClimbeverest
    @TheClimbeverest 5 років тому +1

    I picked up the 450L 2 weeks ago. It is amazingly smooth on the road a lot fun on the dirt it will be a very successful bike for Honda no doubt.

    • @IcarusWelding
      @IcarusWelding 5 років тому +1

      CRF Scout How are you liking the 450L?

    • @TheClimbeverest
      @TheClimbeverest 5 років тому +1

      Oh I'm liking it.. I'm overly impressed with how it handles on the road wasn't expecting that. @@IcarusWelding

  • @eveRide
    @eveRide 5 років тому +90

    Next time you guys are in Saint George let me tag along with my sub $2000 Year 2000 DRZ400! ;) Seriously, that would be a pretty rad Top Gear style comparison!

    • @RadRaven
      @RadRaven 5 років тому +18

      I guess that wouldn’t help them sell over priced dirt bikes, disguised as dual sports...
      ; )~

    • @fsa9887
      @fsa9887 5 років тому

      Еслиб хоть кто нибудь помог купить мне этот мотоцикл я был бы самым счастливым человеком на этой земле.Я русский зарплаты не хвотает даже на самое необходимое,какой уж мотоцикл.А за вас я рад что хоть кто-то имеет возможность купить hondy crf 450l.Эх😢

    • @jeremiahjones5164
      @jeremiahjones5164 5 років тому +3

      Eve!!!!

    • @TacomaJack09
      @TacomaJack09 5 років тому +1

      Yes please! I love my DRZ!

    • @codown123
      @codown123 5 років тому +3

      Oh come on u drz guys can’t honestly compare these bikes. Just take ur drz to a track and tell me what happens out of the corners over jumps and through ruts ur out powered plus ur suspension is garbage these bikes have suspension that cost twice as much as a drz alone. I’d jump these dual sports from 15ft houses and have no problem. If people just changed their oil frequently the bike would last forever u may wanna check ur valves after a couple thousand km but that’s it. Don’t go 1000km before u change ur oil u must be an idiot if u doo.

  • @donbraham411
    @donbraham411 4 роки тому +1

    Good job guys

  • @kenttan9382
    @kenttan9382 5 років тому

    I think id be getting the honda. Still my brand though. Cant wait

  • @jonelliott9627
    @jonelliott9627 5 років тому

    Regardless of other experts commenting here, I think ya'll did a great job and had fun ! Yes if you wanted to post a 2 hour video and explain all the technical and engineering rationales it would have touched on more aspects but I enjoyed what ya'll did. I have owned more than 220 bikes and ridden thousands of others, Literally. So I enjoy the bike for what it is and its " character " . Looking forward to your light adventure builds too. I have a xr650l setup for adventure trips. I like simplicity and reliability but have enjoyed my crf450r and crf450x as well as my ktm 620. 990 smt, both of them and my ktm superduke. Are you going to try a progressive throttle tube to smooth out initial response on the honda or go the electronics route? Keep your videos coming guys.

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 5 років тому +2

    Been a few years since I visited Coco’s Corner in Baja . . . at 67 years old, the Honda’s saying my old bones just may have one more go at ‘er!

  • @simplesubie8248
    @simplesubie8248 5 років тому +6

    The 450l just seems like a better street legal bike for the price..I'll be getting one next week! Wooo!

  • @RedC63AMG
    @RedC63AMG 2 роки тому +3

    I think a 2022 comparison would be worthwhile. Price difference has increased to $1,900 since 2019. Husky/KTM still the gold standard but all 3 bikes are well over most rider's capability levels including mine. With that $1,900 you can go Vortex/Yoshi which cuts 11 pounds, adds at least 10hp and solves the throttle issue. IMS 3 gallon tank and a proper set of tires as well. I recently bought a 300 Rally which I'll keep for longer street days but I am probably going to get a 450 RL to replace my Tiger 900 which is no longer relevant for me.

  • @brettstevens420
    @brettstevens420 5 років тому +2

    please do this with the 2019 Honda CRF450X !!!!

  • @MotoBuilds
    @MotoBuilds 5 років тому +43

    0:09 How the hell can we see that? Lol

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  5 років тому +7

      Lol Proof right there that it was EARLY! #ishouldstillbeinbed #needcoffee - Wes

    • @laysstandard
      @laysstandard 4 роки тому

      nobody around working.

  • @andybj4091
    @andybj4091 5 років тому +10

    I love the rmatv bike reviews, and I was SO excited to see this video, but I'm left with most of my questions unanswered. I know from all the other "quick test" videos about the 450L that it is smooth. What are the differences in personality off road? How much does the weight difference effect the ride? What is RPM (and comfort) at highway speeds? I would like to see a few (3+) riders ride the bikes and give opinions afterward. Thanks RMATV for the great content and the great website. I would like to see a part 2 of this video with more a more in-depth comparison.

    • @damienpayne
      @damienpayne 5 років тому

      Agreed. Not very much comparison info. But we were told three(!) times about how little the Honda vibrates.

    • @WojtekKozowski
      @WojtekKozowski 5 років тому +1

      Leaves a doubt whether it was a sponsored video. I imagine CRF450L is far less exciting than 501. It might make sense financially to buy a Honda, but this comparison it is bound to loose. Hence it’s avoided in the video.

    • @arlo12345678910
      @arlo12345678910 5 років тому

      They mentioned they were going to outfit both bikes for light adventure riding and do more videos. But they never come out fast enough for me , haha!! I Jones for good content!

  • @VikingBagsYT
    @VikingBagsYT 5 років тому +2

    In-depth comparison :)

  • @UrbanOpsOffRoad
    @UrbanOpsOffRoad 5 років тому +1

    This videos was truly awesome!!! Keep em coming, I want to see a full baja pre runner with the 450L.

  • @pets4489
    @pets4489 5 років тому +5

    Ugh, I'm so ready for this video!
    Edit after watching:
    I'm satisfied that you put something out, but I don't feel the depth and care like I felt from you in the Husq vs KTM video. He really gave an impression of honesty and variety. There was also a ton more riding shown. With both bikes getting some great camera time. IMO I think the Husq/Ktm is more for like Chance said, trail to trail. But maybe not a normal trail... more of enduro rock climbing expert single track. The Honda seems to be a much better for city riding and easier general trails. More of the power utility dual sport than the Husq racing dual sport.

  • @captainamerica9353
    @captainamerica9353 Рік тому +3

    So now after 4 years, Honda has sorted the flame-outs, the touchy throttle, revised the oil change intervals, reduced the weight a little, right? Can't wait to order a new 2023 with all the refinements!

    • @lw8447
      @lw8447 7 місяців тому +1

      haha nope same ol bike

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 7 місяців тому +1

      @@lw8447 , I missed a chance to ride a used Honda last year, so I can't speak from experience. Ended up with a new Beta 500 this year and it's been great.

  • @nepats3669
    @nepats3669 5 років тому +147

    Honda = Dual Sport
    Husky = street legal Enduro
    Not every rider wants a race bike, and not ever racer wants a dual sport that can cruise comfortably down the pavement. There's an arse for every seat!

    • @E2Moto
      @E2Moto 5 років тому +14

      The CRF450L is not even a dual sport considering that it has a detuned CRF450R race engine with tighter maintenance than real dual sports.

    • @nepats3669
      @nepats3669 5 років тому +13

      @@E2MotoThe CRF450L is a CRF450X with choked down motor for emissions and longer gearing. The L model makes about 37 horsepower to the tire while the X makes around 40 horsepower to the tire. The X model shares little in common with the CRF450R/RX besides the motor architecture. The R/RX model has better flowing heads, cam, exhaust system, and a 5 speed gearbox. The R/RX model makes around 54 horsepower to the tire. Considering the L is designed for 20K mile intervals before you're breaking head gasket/base gasket seals, I would consider it a dual sport. If you look at an example like a KTM XCW vs the EXCF, they share identical motors. If you are to modify the EXCF with a less restrictive exhaust system, it will make just as much power as an XCW. Service intervals for top end maintenance are probably on the order of 4K to 5K miles. I think this speaks to the fact that the KTM (or Husky) are Enduro race bikes with lights on them, and the Honda isn't.

    • @zackaryk2000
      @zackaryk2000 5 років тому +8

      @@nepats3669 i agree with most of what you said until you said the EXC-F's require top ends at 4-5k. That is not accurate. 15k, sure. It could use a refresh. But as long as you're keeping your air filter clean and oiled, you can extend that interval.

    • @wooblebloc
      @wooblebloc 5 років тому +6

      I’ve had plenty of 4 bangers and the thing that did piss me off was that they where all race bikes that need high maintenance. All I really want to do is cruise around and hit the bush tracks up. The crf450l will be my choice of off road bike.

    • @zackaryk2000
      @zackaryk2000 5 років тому +7

      @@wooblebloc sounds good, enjoy your 600 mile oil changes and 1,800 mile valve inspections on your low maintenance bike. Lmao

  • @jaysan7316
    @jaysan7316 5 років тому

    Killer......!! iv been waiting for your review on this !!! THANKS !! To sick !!! #LADualSportN

  • @ppfeifer3
    @ppfeifer3 5 років тому +2

    Really enjoyed your review, I thought it was very fair and very accurate. What did you guys think about the seats? They look very thin for a long ride.

  • @dawso2o2
    @dawso2o2 5 років тому +5

    We get the wr from Yamaha down here in Australia for years they the best duel sports you guys have missed out

  • @ericpan8119
    @ericpan8119 5 років тому +3

    To me it seems these two bikes do serve two different purposes. While both are high performance off road bikes, the Honda skews more toward dual sport, with the various dampened chassis parts, a quieter ride, less vibration and probably the biggest thing is a metal subframe suitable for carrying stuff. The KTM/Husqvarna skews more toward dirt, with higher power output, more ground clearance, and lighter weight (with a plastic subframe).
    I applaud Honda for bringing this bike to the market. It fills an unmet need - of mine! I plan on getting one soon for dual sport missions. It will fill a gap in the stable with the Beta 300 for woods, the BMW 1200 for long range, and the Montesa 4RT for trials!

  • @Matt43
    @Matt43 5 років тому

    Barely half way through the video and this is the best bike comparison (format and content) I've ever watched!

  • @hildtonmcconnell5626
    @hildtonmcconnell5626 5 років тому +3

    who wants to get to the trail just to go back and get some gas. not every one lives next to the trail. These bikes are great if you are close to a trail but no good if you have to go any distance to the trail or if want to go deep in to the woods on some rough fire roads, or old logging trails. Put a much bigger tank on them and then you got a real on of road bike,

  • @goodolboys713
    @goodolboys713 5 років тому +5

    The on/off throttle of the Honda = fun, who doesn’t want a bike that feels light! The aggressive throttle response is what the “high performance” (450l, fe501, ect) side of enduro should be like. If you want super smooth low power go with the 250l😂

  • @ljm8673
    @ljm8673 5 років тому +2

    Love these kinds of reviews. You guys have great content. I will agree with another comment that the fe450 should be the bike. There was a deal at a local dealership and next to no info on the thing.

    • @snowgo5922
      @snowgo5922 5 років тому

      I’m 6-2 220lbs and with gear probably 240. I love trail riding, but I also never ever want to run out of suspension if I were to hit the unexpected. I was a second away from ownership of a wr450f until they showed me how difficult the gas cap was to access and finding out I can’t make it street legal in my state.
      Money aside, what is the best bike for me either buying one already street legal or me making one street legal?

    • @ljm8673
      @ljm8673 5 років тому +2

      @@snowgo5922 I'm not the best one to ask. The only dual sport I have owned is the mighty DR650. The bike is great fun but you need to be a 50/50 guy. Any more road you need something more road worthy, any less you need a plated dirt bike (ktm, husky, crf450x, etc). Everyone is really excited about the crf450l because it gives a third option to the ktm/husky dual sport lines. Or so they were hoping. At your weight ALL the bikes are going to need suspension work, aftermarket seat, aftermarket tank, amongst other things. Best bet is to get a used bike that is plated, usually has goodies already, and use the cash saved on personalizing it to fit you. My two cents.

    • @ljm8673
      @ljm8673 5 років тому +1

      @@snowgo5922 My lottery win dual sport bike is a Husqvarna fe501-- built! Refer to Rocky Mountain's FE501 build.

  • @blahbaconblah
    @blahbaconblah 5 років тому +2

    I have that Husky. A few mods here and there to get it trail ready, and re did the mirrors lights and got rid of the plate holder. Love it. Next mod is a vortex fuel controller and exhaust system with coolant bypass. In California they come very very lean and run very hot. It'l set you back around 1200, but once you get them re mapped and unplugged they'l rip your shoulders out of the socket. Also don't forget to drop the gearing. Stock gears are long as a corn field.

    • @spamburglar808
      @spamburglar808 5 років тому +2

      I put the $700 power kit from ktmandhusky and it completely changed the bike. Fell in love with it all over again. Seriously a must have upgrade.

  • @gixxerjasen
    @gixxerjasen 5 років тому +1

    Looking forward to a long term review after you've done light ADV touring on them to see how they stack up to that challenge and the reliability of the two bikes. Will the Honda live up to it's reputation?

  • @jimdunne3696
    @jimdunne3696 5 років тому

    $10,000 Plus for these is a bit of an investment. Serious Riders only need apply. I’m thinking of getting the Honda from a not so serious rider sometime down the trail. Great video again thanks

  • @stuartjohns2779
    @stuartjohns2779 5 років тому

    Funny in Australia we had a road legal crf450x until a few years ago. Can't get full road reg crf450 in Australia anymore unfortunately.

  • @michaelmckamey155
    @michaelmckamey155 5 років тому +5

    I love my 450L. It's funny how I have test driven a H2 Hummer, Escalade, 662 HR GT500 Cobra but you can't destroy ride a 10K motorcycle, legal liability, bs, A&S Motorsports in Roseville CA or any Harley dealer will let you ride 200 HP Ducati or 30K Harleys. Never rode the ktm 500 or husky 501 and rode the red one a few hundred feet after signing pw, I will have to love it cause after 10k plus I can't go buy white and orange also(love em ALL).

  • @hadrianhaine5204
    @hadrianhaine5204 5 років тому +1

    Looking forward to the up coming build videos and the long term reviews.
    Do you think a throttle trainer might be a good investment for the Honda to make the throttle more linear for the street riding?

  • @HeddleTown
    @HeddleTown 5 років тому +2

    Awesome bikes for sure! :D

  • @TomSpurlock
    @TomSpurlock 5 років тому

    Excellent review, thanks so much. What I was wondering is how the bikes compare for handling. KTMs (I had a 450) are top heavy, they don't like to turn because they are tal. With the Husky having more ground clearance I'm thinking it will feel a bit top heavy too, being not as easy to quickly lean over into turns, etc. Did you notice any difference between the Honda and Husky on handing in tight twisting trails, any signs of feeling a bit top heavy, always wanting to go straight? I'm thinking that may be why the Honda has a smaller tank too, lighter, to make it fell more nimble, lighter, and less top heavy. It would be interesting to analyze the center of gravity with both bikes.

  • @LookattheBiggerPic
    @LookattheBiggerPic 5 років тому

    Great head to head on two bikes I would not have thought to compare but you guys made this work - would love to see some farkling on these as well - I sort of knee-jerk, toss the Husky into the serious off-road "run-what-you-brung" category and the Honda into the commuter that allows some off-road play now and again - I can see that to be slightly incorrect - accessorizing may show more of the nature of these so please Bring it! The video footage did note fairly well much better suspension on the Husky - the 450L will need a decent overhaul to get it's legs on par, more than just springs - still, for it's stated purpose, the Honda can Not be faulted...

  • @carlosmunoz5599
    @carlosmunoz5599 5 років тому +4

    Fuel injection or carbs? More specific power out up (horsepower/torque). And I would love to have seen a drag race or at least a second gear pull side by side. Even a 0-60 comparison would have been cool. Great review of the suspension and other ride characteristics though.

    • @captainamerica9353
      @captainamerica9353 Рік тому

      I often wonder why they don't do 0-45 and 0-60 tests, along with roll-ons, too. You never see it with dirt bike comparisons.

  • @lifeoutdoors3953
    @lifeoutdoors3953 5 років тому +18

    So in short the husky is better for serious off-road and race the Honda is a good all arounder. The husky just looks like it could be pushed harder. Good for Honda though maybe the rest will follow.

    • @Monjar3
      @Monjar3 4 роки тому

      @@sloan4764 Wrong. The 450L will hang with the big boys offroad all day long. Its main focus is offroad. If you cant tell by the fact it is so similar to the 450x in chassis and suspension, then I dont know what to tell ya. All honda did was make it more bearable on road for those long stretches between trails. It's too much maintenance to be a good road bike. Hell if they tuned the motor down by lowering the compression even more it would be a good 50 50 bike but this thing is a 90 10. I've smoked guys on yz450fx's. Is it the best bike if you want to race, no. There are better bikes suited for the task without binkers and such. Could you race it because it is that good, yes you could. It is literally a 450x with a different cam, blinkers, and emissions crap thrown on to make it street legal.

  • @RockyMtPilot
    @RockyMtPilot 5 років тому +4

    My little WR went up and over everything, and had a 300 mile fuel range. In fact, while riding up a really, really steep trail, I had to walk back down the hill to help my riding buddy push his stock KTM500 cc enduro type bike. Yeah, I had a 4.7 gallon IMS tank put on, along with a 52 tooth rear sprocket. It had all the power I needed to carry my 300lb frame. Never, ever had the bike stall out on a steep climb. It didn't matter how steep, it carried me and my gear right up. With six gears it could still go 65mph. Also, had a spring from a victory road bike put on (at Rocky Mountain ATV in the Springs) after that my weight, nor the luggage I carried made little difference. I would get in the rough stuff, and leave most everybody behind. I am not talking about the joke of trails in this video.....I am talking about really steep rough trails filled with troy palomalou head rocks, lol. It just depends on how much you want to spend. Maintenance costs were extremely low, and first tune up wasn't for 25k miles, really! Loved the little bike which was great for me, and that is why I have a problem with the "first performance enduro bike from Japanese companies" statement. The correct term would be "First really, really expensive performance enduro type bike from Japanese companies!". I say that, because I obviously got plenty of performance from the WR, and never a single problem with over 7000 miles of the roughest trail riding you could imagine. Then I sold it for only two grand less than I bought it for.
    Thanks for the review though, but I feel you were talking up the Honda a little much. Truth be said, I am pretty sure with being lighter and having 20 more HP, the Husky would ride circles around the Honda. Currently, I am eyeing the 701.

    • @TJY2K
      @TJY2K Рік тому

      Did you end up getting the 701?

  • @Oh4Chrissake
    @Oh4Chrissake 5 років тому +2

    Beautiful scenery. You don't get much of that in Liverpool.

    • @hungwasson1399
      @hungwasson1399 4 роки тому

      Come visit the western United States. We have some of the most beautiful and extensive terrain for off-pavement riding! There are many bike rental outfits. If you like the rocky dessert, then Moab and Canyonlands in Utah (among other places) will give you all of the experiences you could want.

  • @tsh7090
    @tsh7090 5 років тому +4

    Perfect timing. Excellent, well thought out review! Was great to see you guys add your thoughts "after" the ride. Sometimes it takes a bit to really sink in, and the info provided answered a lot of my questions.
    The biggest revelation to me was that you guys have the Husky's for sale! I checked the web site and didn't see them. Would be nice to buy the bike from the same place I'd be getting all the support gear, and upgrades.
    Any chance to do a comparison between the FE 450 and the FE501? I've searched UA-cam and the net, and there isn't really anything out there from sources I'm comfortable with trusting my $10K plus investment in.
    Thanks in advance,
    Scott

    • @pets4489
      @pets4489 5 років тому +1

      That 450/501 comparison is greatly needed

  • @2010GT500
    @2010GT500 5 років тому +10

    A duel sport is suppose to crank out high miles... that’s the whole damn point

  • @SWTrailsAndWheels
    @SWTrailsAndWheels 3 роки тому +27

    The Husky also gets a lot of extra unreliability. Sweet!

  • @darkisato
    @darkisato 3 роки тому

    Huh south Washington lol I did some off-roading on my scooter town there and had fun the Blm land is cool when u go down there to do off-roading and shooting.

  • @jamesb1412
    @jamesb1412 5 років тому +2

    Is it wheel balance on the road or engine? Balancing the wheels makes a massive difference on the road!

  • @Kwappel2
    @Kwappel2 5 років тому

    The first 450l i test rode the throttle was jerky and if you blipped it wrong it would stall and the clutch grabbed within a millimeter of release. My buddy bought one anyways after he rode it and the other one the dealer had he took home. The one he took home throttle is amazing and perfect the clutch has some movement before grabbing and is much better. Im guessing just inconsistency in manufacturing??

  • @patshore8448
    @patshore8448 5 років тому +3

    Don’t worry man us big boys always bottom out the suspension 🤘🤘

  • @Canoneosmiami
    @Canoneosmiami Рік тому

    U should have talked more about the maintenance cost on both ,also cost of springing them for tall heavy riders so it would sink as little as possible..

  • @SCBullterriers
    @SCBullterriers 5 років тому

    great video Honda all the way

  • @bobbievalentine
    @bobbievalentine 5 років тому

    Where is chance? Oh there he is ok . Awesome video thanks

  • @moflyboyblanquito541
    @moflyboyblanquito541 5 років тому

    Okay good y’all are actually going to ride them.

  • @iray3242
    @iray3242 5 років тому +2

    I can't wait to see a ADV build on that Honda.

  • @goegeana5276
    @goegeana5276 5 років тому

    Cool mustach bro.

  • @ryanlowry5409
    @ryanlowry5409 5 років тому +9

    Sure the oil change intervals are short, but the Honda has a 3 ring piston versus the motocross version which has one. So top end life should be similar to drz or comparable. How many rings does husky have?

    • @JohannesDalen
      @JohannesDalen 2 роки тому +1

      How many rings does the DRZ have?