Korg Pa5x v1.2 No! No! No!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- RJ did this quick video to show you how the Korg Pa5x v1.2 has caused him a great set back to his music production. What is Korg thinking? I will definitely be going back to v1.1.
Please let me know if there is a work around.
For all of you out there maybe v1.2 will be awesome. For my work flow I went back to v1.1... Maybe v1.3 will be better.
FYI!!! When you download all these upgrades to the OS make sure you save them. You never know when you might have to go back to them.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but couldn’t you untick ‘score’ in the transpose menu?
I tried a lot of different things, but nothing worked. Every time I transposed the keyboard, the chords in the sequencer changed. And for me, what I am using the Pa5x for it didn't work. But, I am happy with Ver 1.1 it seems to be working fine for me. Here is one of my other videos, it might explain what I mean.
ua-cam.com/video/caaluY5MF3E/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
The problem must be from somewhere else, for example, with the new update, I noticed that when I reactivate the device's backup file, the matrix button number 14 on channel one is turned off and does not work. I factory reset the device again. When I loaded the backup file, everything went very well, and when I loaded it again, this happened again and I realized that there is a problem with the backup file. You must test it once before loading the backup file!
I did, I found this before I even started bringing in my Styles, Sounds and Chord Sequences. But, I went back to v1.1 and everything is fine. I am going to do a video on my process and you will see why I like the old way better.
I worked on this for 2.5 hrs. I thought maybe I could find something in "Settings" that would help but could not.
Could you please mention this problem on the Korg forums? There is a topic there, called "Problem report - PA5x OS1.2.0 (NO WISH-LISTS!!!!)" I attempted to post a link here, but I was unable to. It would be so nice to have this problem listed there.
Will do...
Hey bro do you think there are others problems with that 1.2.0 , ???
To be honest I didn't look for them. I was so ticked off by the chord sequence recorder, I didn't have time to look for anything else.
I have a question I have a pa5x when I use the cord sequencer and I push play the lower keyboard shuts off is that normal because I don't think it is
The chord sequencer shuts off the lower keyboard on playback is this normal
It shouldn't. Make sure your "Split Button" is not on, that will shut the lower off.
@@jonmicheals621 it still does the same thing with the split button off
@@alanadee2514 This is weird, I worked with it for a while, and you have to have the "Split Button" and the "Lower" keys button on. Then go to your mixer and make sure everything is turned on and the volume is up. I did find when using it this way I had to change the chord recognition to upper. This way the chord pattern did not change when I was playing the lower keys. But of course, if you want the chord to change with what you are playing then that will work too. Take Care, my friend.
I prefer the Yamaha PSR-SX 900 amazing keyboard with all this flexibility at half the price.
Yeah, last saturday we have compared sx900 with Pa5X :D the TOY, I mean of course sx900 should nirmally cost maximally 1000 Euro to be fair compared to Pa5X. We can compare Genos to Pa4, nothing more, sorry and br 😀
Sx_900 is a toy.
My friend's update went perfectly and 1.2 is awesome. Our local dealer also has it working fine. If you are having problems, it could be faulty data, corrupt download, bad quality USB stick (yes there are bad quality USB sticks) or the download went fine but you are trying to load faulty data (sound files, Songbook data etc). Going nuclear with your frustration might feel good but is useless for everyone else. Go back to the dealer who sold you the Pa5X, or call the local distributor and work through the issues.
No, this is a design change. There was nothing wrong with my upgrade to 1.2. It is that Korg decided to change something that will not work for me. That's fine. I will use 1.1 until I find a workaround.
@@jonmicheals621 Are you sure? Most other people have found 1.2 is fine and the complaints are dropping daily as people find they misunderstood what was happening. Don't go back to 1.1, instead detail the problems and send them to your dealer/distributor to check with Korg. Don't give up too quickly :-)
I spent 2.5 hours trying to make it work. It is a software re-design issue with no work around. Many Pa5x players have contacted me, and there is no magic fix. For what I use it for 1.1 works great. Watch both videos and you will see what I am talking about.
@@jonmicheals621 Have you documented this for the software team at Korg? There are too many benefits for 1.2 to miss out on because of one change that might be reversible?
@phiniusjwhippy For what I use this keyboard for, those other benefits that 1.2 offers don't really have any effect on what I do. Song lists and things like that I don't really use. I just need a keyboard to create some tracks, which I bring into my DAW system. For me this keyboard is basically an idea creator.
I can't really understand your issue.You transpose so it should transpose too.
If the guitarist is detuned 3 semitones it ll look like he is playing Am but the sound will not be Am so he is transposed too.
What is the actual issue? Solo (keyboard set) doesn't transpose? If not what?
When you're working with other musicians, guitar players that are tuned down. Their instrument might be playing a chord that is tuned down, but they are still playing standard chord progressions. Example, if I have a chord progression on that screen that says Am /// G/// C/// D/// that's what they'll play on the guitar. There is no confusion. They will play those chords. Yes, in reality they're playing F#m E A B. But with stringed instruments those chords are totally different, and have a total different sound. And the same goes for soloing. If that same guitar player looks at that chord change he knows exactly what scale to play it in. He doesn't have to recalculate. If it says Am that's the scale he's going to play. All the time I've worked with musicians that are tuned down. No one ever said I'm going to play this Am here which is actually an F#m. They say let's play this song in Am and everyone follows along because they're all tuned down. Just about every rock band out there tunes down a step or two. Even when I was in Nashville, all their great guitar players tuned down one whole step. And the Bluegrass Country people all have different tunings. In the world of stringed instruments people will even write the songs down as playing a D C G. But depending on how they tuned the instrument it might not be a D C G. But who cares if their instrument sounds great in that tuning. I just need to be able to write a song for them, and they can come in and look at that chord progression and we can record.
@@jonmicheals621
Let's not forget, most guitarists aren't good at reading CHARTS! They understand the tuning thing, but if there reading the screen you've connected to the PA5X, and there tuned down but are playing the same shapes, but trying to read in F#minor, it's not gonna be pretty!!!
@@moogy77 You got that right. Most Rock guitar is based around the E6 string or the A5 string. So, if they are tuned down, they play that shape related to that string and don't really care what note it really is. I have even been in bands where everyone is tuned down and the other guitar play would say, ride the E string and then hit the G and then the A. Your point exactly.
I just loaded 1.2 and all my midifiles are all messed up every frickin one the whole system is floored
Wow... I am so sorry.
Can you reload 1.1 and reload your midi files. That is what I did.
This keyboard was supposed to be light years ahead of the Genos... Man, what is Korg thinking.
Just loaded back to 1.1 everything back to normal now
Thanks for uploading your video I'm getting in touch with the shop tomorrow see what can be done
There used to be no keyboards in the past, yet composers were able to arrange music tracks nicely and musicians were able to read the scores.. There is a "good" news though. Very soon AI will take over and will do all the tech stuff for us, there ll be no need in complex synth interfaces any longer. Yes, our brains will start to deteriorate, but that's the price we have to pay for technological advancements.
Yes, it was so nice back in the old days. When somebody needed a soundtrack to a video or a documentary, they came over and you had a few drinks, and you started to write some ideas for music. With all the music Services out there and you are right, AI is already writing music. You have to make that decision of speed of production over a great creative idea.
Yes practice, practice, practice all the chords in all the keys.
So you will be able to play anything you want in an instant with out having to think about it.
Even on an acoustic piano in an electrical power cut 👍🏻
@@FRANCCO32 It is not about knowing scales and knowing how to play the chords. If you know anything about stringed instruments there are several ways to play the same thing. A lot of great sounds coming from the guitar come from open strings. And if that string is open and tuned down. You are still going to have to match that sound that key that that instrument is being played in.
@@jonmicheals621 Ah ! I think I understand now?
Do you mean if your following a guitarist in the key of F#m so you transpose the keyboard for instance but he decides to play a true Am chord. You would have to play Cm on the keyboard to stay in harmony with him.
I do not have have a pax5 so don’t know a work around other than to try a second MIDI controller keyboard set it to standard tuning to enable Am to be played without having to change your main keyboards settings.
I wish you god look in your endeavours
@@FRANCCO32 You get it. If I had 3 guitar players like my song and want to record it. One guy is natural tuning, one guy is down 2 steps, and the third guy is down 3 steps. With v1.1 I could tune the keyboard with that style down to match their guitar without changing the chord in the Chord Sequencer. There would be no confusion with any of them. Because they would all be playing the same chords on their guitar. This also goes for Banjo or Mandilyn players too. They all have different tuning and sound different but by the text book they are all playing the same chords.
I really, really regretted buying it! They couldn't solve the problems for more than a year! Which is a lot on the pa 5 x instrument! I'm suing Korg! because they cheated! Shame on you Korg! You will pay this back 100%! A pa 700 knows more than this shit! 😢
Something is surely up. At first, they offered a version upgrade with 1.1 only showing. Then, when version 1.2 came out they got rid of having access to version 1.1 on their site. Thank goodness I kept version 1.1 backed up. Because I found out version 1.2 wouldn't work for me. So I have been running version 1.1 and don't seem to have many problems. And Korg did bring back version 1.1 to their site. I also think there is a bad batch of these things. I haven't had any problems of it freezing up, but there are a lot of people that say they're Pa5x will freeze up. For what I'm using it for the Pa5x will probably work pretty good with version 1.1 installed.
You need to know how to read music on different clefs. Transposing also transposes the chords, it shows you what you play. I think its perfect
It is not about transposing the music. It is how people interpret the music. If I play Am on my red RG770 that is a Am and every book printed would agree. But if I play Am on my blue S470 which is tuned down 3step it will look just like the book, Am but it will actually be a F#m. When working with people that play stringed instruments you what to direct them to play the chord that gives you that sound you are looking for. Watch my video.
ua-cam.com/video/caaluY5MF3E/v-deo.html
There is an open sound that you get with a guitar or a stringed instrument that you cannot get in any other key. So, if I want the musician to play that open string sound they would have to play and E A D G B E. But if they want their song recorded in C#m but with that open string sound, they will have to tune their guitars down 3 steps. Which means they are now playing with that open String sound and as the text book would say... Yes they are playing and Em+5 but sonically it is a C#m. Most Rock Bands and a lot of Country Bands tune down. And for reading music. When you have to create something quickly for your clinent, you need to communicate quickly with the people you are working with.
I've written on pa5x "official" on Facebook another think should be added on chord progressions. We're using this junk for playing progressions lyke a live song and each variation should have possibilities to different progressions and not like it is now (same progression to all variations). And that's becouse a song contains different chords between intro/A/B/ bridge/ outro... This keyboard is really a junk from 90's and not a keyboard for 2023!!!
Korg has a long way to go for sure. But this Chord Sequencer is the only reason I bought this thing. I use the Pa5x for songwriting. Before this, it was a Pa1000. So, I can do what you're talking about. I can write out a whole chord change, including a verse and chorus. Then, when I go to record it in the DAW system I can change the Vars by hand as the chord progression plays. I created a soundtrack for video the other day by playing back the chord changes I recorded and hitting the fill buttons every now and then. Of course, you have to hit the Var or Fill button 2 beats, or 4 beats before the next chord change to make it sound good. But it works, for me in the studio.
@@jonmicheals621 , thanks for reply but, I think it should be more simple to be used when I push rec on chord section in any style. Each variation should have independent chord if we needed . we can't loose all that time in studio after spent 5000 euros. Ableton live costs lot less and have thousents of possibilities ...
With regards, Catalin
Yeah, "Band in a Box" would have been a lot cheaper.