The Silent Note: How the industry tried to MUTE Kylie Minogue: Spinning Around To Padam!

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
  • The ageist industry has twice tried to block Kylie & both times Kylie has succeeded. we take a look back at how Spinning Around and Padam helped her gain a huge comeback in modern day music. thanks to Tik Tok and streaming, but exactly how did it happen? Let’s take a deep dive

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  • @divatalk9011
    @divatalk9011  3 дні тому +2

    Are Divas Extinct??
    ua-cam.com/video/QCZo6o2XIhA/v-deo.htmlsi=ZnFSpSSnJebQTCsN

  • @queenwithapeen
    @queenwithapeen 23 дні тому +138

    That's absolutely atrocious from BBC. Gross. So proud of Kylie!!!

    • @Transformer-x6t
      @Transformer-x6t 23 дні тому +1

      STOP PAYING THE LICENSE

    • @queenwithapeen
      @queenwithapeen 21 день тому

      @@Transformer-x6t I ain’t paying shit

    • @Scripture-Man
      @Scripture-Man 20 днів тому

      What's atrocious? You mean the fact that Radio 1 don't promote every single new song by every single artist who has ever been famous? Surely they can't promote EVERYTHING? 1980s star Shakin Stevens released an album last year. Is it "atrocious" that the BBC didn't promote it?

    • @legocountyfan
      @legocountyfan 20 днів тому +17

      @@Scripture-Man The difference is the fact Kylie got into the top 10 singles chart and it was still passed over. When a song is in the official top 10 charts, it should be played. The end. Point blank. Period.

    • @Transformer-x6t
      @Transformer-x6t 20 днів тому

      @@Scripture-Man It's the reasons why. She is a woman in her 50s' Use your fucking brain

  • @alexnewkirk5504
    @alexnewkirk5504 23 дні тому +160

    I’m so glad Kylie is still around making such fun music!!!

  • @DodaGarcia
    @DodaGarcia 22 дні тому +57

    As an older artist in the pop landscape I am so grateful for trailblazers like Kylie and Madonna.

    • @dylanthuong2600
      @dylanthuong2600 16 днів тому

      In your dreams

    • @EclesysGalaxy
      @EclesysGalaxy 10 днів тому

      I just heard a few of your songs! I totally see the vision, do you want to collab on a song together?

  • @alxsimovic
    @alxsimovic 23 дні тому +89

    There has always been an anti Kylie mob but her fanbase is too strong as we grew up with her and we all buy her records . There’s no way she would have number one in five decades . She’s never been a has been .

    • @danidejaneiro8378
      @danidejaneiro8378 22 дні тому +11

      Always! First they criticised her for having come from acting on a soap opera. Then it was for singing manufactured pop. Then it was for trying something different. They've always tried to hold her down but we just can't get her out of our heads!

  • @simonaschmidt
    @simonaschmidt 23 дні тому +52

    Her resilience and tenacity is inspiring. Go Kylie!

  • @justdempsey7937
    @justdempsey7937 23 дні тому +63

    Kylie will ALWAYS be relevant because she is a pop genius and her music just gets better and better. It's absolutely amazing how she just blows my mind with every single release. Kylie's fans will ALWAYS be here for her she's loved so much. I've been a fan since her very first PWL single. Love you forever Kylie ❤❤

  • @danielbryan7378
    @danielbryan7378 18 днів тому +14

    I think one of the most telling things about her is her authenticity. Yes, there's costume and make-up and special visual effects etc but when she's interviewed that is exactly how she is in real life. She is genuinely grateful that we enjoy what she does. And not many pop stars can have that said about them. Oh and she's tiny. Barely 5 feet tall -which makes her so cute.😆

  • @jeanpetit462
    @jeanpetit462 23 дні тому +22

    Both Madonna and Kylie are being bullied by the music industry, though they don’t need to prove themselves anymore, in the past Madonna sold millions of albums without social media , and so did Kylie . Today’s music is boring and lacks of creativity for example Taylor swift music is just boring it lacks of that fancy and daring sound Madonna and Kylie used to have

  • @SeeJay81
    @SeeJay81 23 дні тому +37

    Back in the day BBC Radio 1 used to be that the top 40 was played in it's entirety. Then they started playing select songs, but every song in the top 10. Now they use it to discriminate and it's shocking. Madonna, Kylie, Janet Jackson, and many others have spoken out against radio in general, but BBC Radio 1 specifically.

  • @carldelzer2053
    @carldelzer2053 22 дні тому +68

    Madonna just had a sell out tour. Meaning the demand for her music and talent haven’t diminished. People like Madonna and Kylie are timeless, and we should be celebrating them for as long as they wish to release music!

    • @DavidTyler
      @DavidTyler 21 день тому +8

      Madonna Music hasn't been good since confessions on the dance floor

    • @stefank.1638
      @stefank.1638 20 днів тому +8

      ​@@DavidTyler according to your bad music taste. I absolutely love Madame X.

    • @DavidTyler
      @DavidTyler 20 днів тому +4

      @@stefank.1638 worst madonna album ever

    • @iamgholden
      @iamgholden 20 днів тому +2

      ​@@DavidTyler Hard Candy and MDNA had bangers

    • @DavidTyler
      @DavidTyler 20 днів тому +1

      @iamgholden MDNA olny had 1 good song, and that is masterpiece. Hard candy wasn't that good

  • @AZyzk
    @AZyzk 23 дні тому +22

    I knew Kylie in the early 2000's with Can't get you out of my head, and in my eyes, she was in her best moment at that time. I was surprised by people considering her an "old popstar" during the 1990's.
    There is a beautiful thing about it: she's among the women who defied the rules and created a world where an artist can have a longer and more genuine career.
    Padam padam beaches. 😂

    • @howvery_
      @howvery_ 11 днів тому

      7 year old me would have never realized kylie was older than any other popstar lol loved her songs as a kid, as a teenager (2010-2011) i found out about impossible princess in the middle of discovering different alternative genres and ppl like nick cave, it was the perfectmix of my new interests and childhood fav, not once thought about her age...but i guess im not the "general pop fan" type

    • @gate8475
      @gate8475 День тому

      me too, as a little kid we were playing outside and dancing to can get you out of my head, then others like Its in your eyes, Slow, chocolate, I believe in you, ALL THE LOVERS, omg I adoreeeed that song and my ultimate favourite The One.
      Her work and now Padam has been an inspiration and beacon of hope, happiness and fun for everyone, she is amazing

  • @iangrice329
    @iangrice329 20 днів тому +9

    The fact Kylie has been around and successfully for 5 decades shows she has pure talent, something sadly missing in a lot of artists. ❤❤

  • @Damian-sn2sx
    @Damian-sn2sx 23 дні тому +21

    Thanks for the info!! I've been a Kylie since 1987, 16 back then, I'm 50 yo now! I've grew up along her, and I'll always love her! Every song of her catalogue reminds me of a particularly time in my life. Not many ppl can experience thst?
    Love from Argentina 🇦🇷

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  23 дні тому +1

      @@Damian-sn2sx there such a special connection! I’m 33, so I really only became aware of Kylie when Light years came out when I was about 8 but what really got me into her was the Aphrodite Tour!

  • @simoneastland
    @simoneastland 23 дні тому +30

    What a fantastic documentary..especially for us Kylie fans.

  • @Jazlow
    @Jazlow 23 дні тому +11

    Kylie wasn't just nominated for a GRAMMY in 2024 >>>> SHE WON!!!!
    The very FIRST-ever GRAMMY For Best Pop Dance Recording >>>> Padam Padam!
    She beat out David Guetta, Calvin Harris/Elle Goulding, Troye Sivan, Guetta/Bebe Rexha!!
    Great video but how is this fact not included?

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  23 дні тому +3

      The second piece of that video was from an older clip made in January before she won the Grammy

    • @Jazlow
      @Jazlow 23 дні тому +3

      @@divatalk9011 Ohhhh ok. I was confused because I saw the video was uploaded just in the last day. Anyway... great report on Kylie's incredible career.

  • @TrollBot.
    @TrollBot. 20 днів тому +15

    She even won her 2nd Grammy with Padam 🎉😂
    BBC: 😡

  • @MistarZtv
    @MistarZtv 23 дні тому +12

    One of my earliest memories was watching Kylie 's light years era. I think I was barely 4 or 5. I've been in love ever since

  • @MarthaMansbridge
    @MarthaMansbridge 22 дні тому +10

    The answer is simple: if you’re good enough and have something special your career will go on forever. Madonna, Cher, Kylie and many others are proof of that. This constant claim old pop stars are deliberately retired is rubbish. It’s always been the thing that new kids prefer to listen to their own age of music. Always been the same. It’s also always been true that the greats will survive that.

    • @Sthuont
      @Sthuont 11 днів тому

      People only listen to and can only make value judgements on what they are exposed to though. This is the most important determinant in music industry success. If a song is promoted and advertised and people get as much exposure to a new song across as many platforms and avenues as possible, provided the song is enjoyable (doesn't need to be incredible or groundbreaking, just enjoyable is enough), then I strongly argue a song will succeed.
      The issue is this seems to be very haphazardly and inconsistently undertaken.
      Some album campaigns from the lead single on seem to be incredibly lacklustre and inconspicuous in their media prominence and exposure, and it's no wonder they don't succeed, when even fans wouldn't necessarily be aware of a song or albums release. If a release has radio play, radio advertising, tv, tv advertising, magazine covers and print articles, print advertising, online advertising, billboards, social media, reaction videos, recommended videos, critical reviews both in traditional media and online, streaming platform playlists, use in soundtracks, use as background music in retail stores and in media like sports coverage etc., then it surely would be hard not to succeed.
      Obviously that's going to be expensive and also require a great deal of logistical planning and effort, and naturally unless you're already successful, that strategy would usually be unviable. However, what confuses me is that even artists coming off of hugely successful previous release campaigns so often come out with these almost covert releases that most people won't even be cognisant of.
      The stars do have to align though as it's a whole confluence of different inputs, from an artists ambition, to their managers competence and skill, to the label's enthusiasm and willingness to support them and the advertising/exposure expenses, plus of course the media's willingness too, of which this video was discussing at least one section of that media; the radio.

  • @raywright8226
    @raywright8226 23 дні тому +40

    When I hear "youth obsessed music industry", it makes me laugh. These companies are run by people who are generally over 50, even over 60. I'm sure Freud could dissect that conundrum 😆

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  23 дні тому +8

      It’s definitely a strange disconnect. If the suits at the record labels were consistent with their anti age mindset they wouldn’t have a job 😂

    • @raywright8226
      @raywright8226 22 дні тому

      @@divatalk9011 Actually I'm joking, we don't need Freud. These companies are run by people who aren't into music really. They're into the contracts that make them wealthy. The young, who are into music, are more likely to believe the hype and sign on the dotted line. They earn their 5% (or whatever their contract is) and are charged all the studio time etc... It's funny, I would have thought, if you earn 5% revenue then you should be charged 5% costs 🤔

    • @lizchesley6028
      @lizchesley6028 22 дні тому +7

      I think they want young people because they are easier to take advantage of. That’s why I think it is the way it is.

  • @shemeshvii
    @shemeshvii 20 днів тому +8

    her album body language is so underrated, absolutely best album.

  • @art1ej
    @art1ej 23 дні тому +14

    Im just glad kylie retook her throne. She looks amazing and tension was amazing.

  • @skurinski
    @skurinski 21 день тому +9

    DISCO >>> Tension

  • @mdeeaonetwothree5162
    @mdeeaonetwothree5162 11 днів тому +2

    In Australia, Kylie is known as The Singing Budgie because her voice is not strong. I can’t say I was originally a big fan. But I really liked ‘Cant get you out of my head’ and ‘Confide in Me’, and of course ‘Padam’. Over the years she has proved she is a pop genius, a hard worker, and incredibly resilient. She deserves her success.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @TalentedTom91
    @TalentedTom91 24 дні тому +19

    ‘Insert generic “I love Kylie” comment here’ 😂
    But I really do! I can’t pinpoint 1 favourite song but I’ll give you a few:
    All I see - x
    Red blooded woman - Body Language
    Love at first sight - Fever
    Fever - Fever
    Padam Padam - Tension
    Tension - Tension
    Most of these are fully in my regular rotational playlist that I listen to constantly! She’s just so brilliant! 🥰

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  23 дні тому +2

      That’s a great mix of songs!! What do you think of her collaboration with the blessed Madonna?

    • @TalentedTom91
      @TalentedTom91 23 дні тому +1

      @@divatalk9011 thank you 🥰 I’m not overly keen on it tbh, it’s not quite my taste. It’s not horrible tho!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  23 дні тому +1

      The video got me more into it actually!

    • @Damian-sn2sx
      @Damian-sn2sx 23 дні тому

      ​@divatalk9011 it's absolutely fantastic! A dance banger!

    • @Theicons687
      @Theicons687 23 дні тому

      ​@@divatalk9011absolutely fantastic

  • @iamgholden
    @iamgholden 20 днів тому +3

    As a member of The Youth™, I have been OBSSESSED with Kylie ever since Get Outta The Way and Aphrodite have slipped into my Spotify "you may also like". I loved Can't Get You Out of My Head since I was 5 and when I heard about Padam Padam going viral, I gave it a listen for the little boy who was addicted to that piece of pop perfection, and one stream of Get Outta My Way DID IT for me and to this day, it's one of my favorite pop songs of all time :)

    • @iamgholden
      @iamgholden 20 днів тому +1

      If you don't know Kylie besides her worldwide hits, here's some tracks you should listen!
      - Step Back In Time
      - More 3x
      - In Your Eyes
      - Like a Drug
      - The One
      - Wow
      - Get Outta My Way
      - Everything Is Beautiful
      - Aphrodite
      - Too Much
      - Can't Beat The Feeling
      - Into The Blue
      - Million Miles
      - Mr. President
      - Dancing
      - Magic
      - Say Something
      - Supernova
      - Hold On To Now
      - Story

  • @melsyoutube
    @melsyoutube 16 днів тому +3

    growing up as a music fan i’ve never aligned with the misogynistic idea of artists having a “shelf life”. if you’re talented and creative and have something to say, KEEP GOING. i love and respect so many artists with longevity - madonna, mariah, beyoncé, dolly, cher, kylie, diana, janet, stevie, pharrell, missy, timbaland!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you liked this video, you might enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva” in modern music

  • @jamxone80
    @jamxone80 23 дні тому +9

    Impossible princess - first Kylie CD I bought !
    I loved DID it again, breathe , cowboy style but I loved 90s Kylie - confide in me, put yourself in my place were my jam

    • @BrianEmerson5
      @BrianEmerson5 18 днів тому

      Pivotal!!! I'm old enough that i have been with Kylie since The Locomotion and never left her.... Impossible Princess was the turning point. It is in my top 3 of fav albums. Long live Kylie!!!

  • @SabaSaliba
    @SabaSaliba 22 дні тому +5

    Don’t forget to mention how the Disco Album saved us through the Covid pandemic, and Golden Album brought us another version of Impossible Princess. Impossible Princess was ruined and over shadowed by Princess Diana’s Death, hence why it was all replaced with no tittle. However the vinyl reissues of Impossible Princess made the masterpiece re chart. Who cares about the industry, it’s the loyal fans that makes them successful 💖💖💖

  • @Tia-Louisa
    @Tia-Louisa 14 днів тому +2

    Kylie has ALWAYS been loved, respected and appreciated here in Australia 🤍💚💜

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @Georgie_R
    @Georgie_R 18 днів тому +3

    While not the biggest Kylie fan (although enjoying a lot of her tracks over the years) I believe the secret to her success is that she has always remained relatable, likeable and amenable. She's equally at home in large scale tours and small scale TV appearances. She always seems to generate a great deal of good will in people
    She's never gone down the Diva route that a number of (mostly US) artists have gone down.... and it's very telling that she's never once treated herself as a 'legend' unlike many others who have tried and failed to retain a fan base beyond the die hard .
    And by taking novel approaches to her production and promotion... she manages to take her fans on a 'journey' they may not have anticipated or expected... rather than resort to sticking to one particular shocking gimmick and churning out a basic 'one shot' album (Not to slag off Madonna) At least Kylie has tried novel approaches to Album campaigns now in the post 'single' era... by extending each era with supplemental releases.
    By doing so.. she' avoided ever being seen as a 'legacy artist' unlike many of her contemporaries (both male and female) and her releases continue to get generally good mainsteam coverage by nature of her personality.... unlike a great many other 'Big Hitters' from the 80's 90's and 00's who were less 'easy' to deal with (i.e. Simply Red... who literally had seemingly zero coverage.... and I was genuinely shocked to find had 2 top 10 albums in the UK in the last 5 years... as I had seen or heard nothing at the time... I'm suprised anyone can still tolerate Mick Hucknall enough to be a 'fan' )
    The only times I can genuinely remember Kylie 'struggling' a bit were during the mid/late 90's when she went a bit serious.... and a US produced album that just didn't feel like it was celebrating her uniqueness... just a generic brand of US Executive created nothingness with 'sexy times' plastered ill fittingly over it. But again... not a huge afficiando of hers-so maybe these are really popular moments with everyone (Personally the two songs of hers I listen to a lot on Spotify are 'What Do I Have To Do' and 'Timebomb'... which probably shows how out of touch I am to her body of work in general)

    • @markmunroe-hz8rf
      @markmunroe-hz8rf 8 днів тому

      Michael Jackson too had his time, but he left a huge influence on the world.
      Our society is too youth obsessed and our current youth do not appreciate what is good.

  • @alisterfolson
    @alisterfolson День тому +1

    That whole album with the single "Can't Get You Out of My Head" is epic. Even now it still holds up.

  • @gardeningnewearth3680
    @gardeningnewearth3680 11 днів тому +1

    As someone from her home country who was actually there during the impossible princess era. This video couldn’t be further from the truth. That album dominated the charts & solidified her as a true icon. All anyone could talk about was how incredible stunning & talent she really was. The only problem was the impossible princess songs were played too much on radio & tv making them almost too cool to be cool.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  11 днів тому +2

      @@gardeningnewearth3680 it’s great what happened in Australia vs the Uk charts and the British press

  • @garydmercer
    @garydmercer День тому

    I’m sixty years old and wrote and published 4 albums of my music, over 40 songs in the last 3 years and was told, I was too old and my songs would never be listened to on my UA-cam channel. Ageism against older artists is rampant. Love Kylie. She is an amazing artist and I love it that she continues to make great music into her senior years. Fantastic.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  9 годин тому

      Wow that’s fantastic! I need to check out your music

  • @minuishaq631
    @minuishaq631 21 день тому +4

    Kylie also never got married or had kids. Which makes her seem more youthful. Most female pop stars get older AND have children.

    • @Sthuont
      @Sthuont 11 днів тому

      Kylie never had childhood dreams of getting married, but she always dreamed of having kids... unfortunately her cancer diagnosis and subsequent chemotherapy prevented that from being fulfilled... and right at the time it appeared she may have been about to start a family with Olivier Martinez. It's sad, she really is great with kids and has a very natural maternal warmth and love. I just hope she's made peace with that and that she's happy and fulfilled. She seems to be, and she deserves all the happiness in the world.

  • @cakespereira
    @cakespereira 20 днів тому +3

    Disgraceful how real talent is being sidelined in favour of 5 minutes pop puppets. One cannot build a carear based on sand and castles in the air. Thank god for Cher,Madonna,Kylie,Diana Ross and Janet Jackson etc........as their are now what remains of the industry we grew up with.

  • @rodrigochichierchio
    @rodrigochichierchio 15 днів тому +1

    What an INCREDIBLE video. Kylie is definitely one of the biggest names of pop and you couldn't have solified it better!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  15 днів тому

      I really appreciate the comment c

  • @djscottymashups
    @djscottymashups 16 днів тому +1

    Kylie is such a beautiful soul!!!
    A friend and I met her while she was filming some scenes for "Sample People" and not only did she pose for pics with us, but she signed a HEAP of stuff for us too... She also saved us from her security guard who was ready to tackle my mate & I as we ran toward her screaming KYLIE!!!
    I will always adore her, regardless of her age.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you liked this video, you might enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva” in modern music

  • @peterd.9522
    @peterd.9522 14 днів тому +1

    Thank you so much for the underpinning of the Kylie towering five decade achievement. She is on another level. Icon, Goddess, brilliant, timeless, Empress of Pop,

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you liked this video, you might enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva” in modern music

  • @leightonbate7516
    @leightonbate7516 22 дні тому +3

    Some ladies won't go quietly into the night and we are better for it,Write this woman off at your peril,stuck by her through thick and thin for 36 years,BBC seriously miscalculated her appeal,a good songs is a good song no matter a persons age,Cher did it in 98,no-one cared how old she was.
    She always had a huge fanbase and the media don't like that,they love to control the narrative but Kylie writes her won legacy story,LEGEND!

  • @patheticfangirl792
    @patheticfangirl792 22 дні тому +2

    I've loved and ADORED Kylie for 30 years now. One thing that sets her appart in my opinion is a strong sense of self, and the love for her craft beyond the charts. She's always done what she wanted, she's always been consistant in the way she presented herself to the world. I remember an itw of hers when CGYOOMH came out, saying people in the industry thought she was done after Impossible Princess, while she herself had no idea because it went completely above her head. She's just doing her thing, hoping for the best of course, but she was never after a number one, or "staying relevant." Se wanted to make great pop and that's all.
    I think it says a lot that she hasn't had work done to the point she's unrecognisable, or a caricature of herself. She has amazing genes but we've seen many beautiful women butcher their face in hopes to remain youthful-looking. Think about the amount of strength and self-esteem that must be required from a female pop star -- who's always been praised for her exquisite beauty -- to not feel pressured into completely changing her face past a certain age. She's a force of nature on so many levels, and truly an inspiration for women of all ages.

  • @MrBibi86
    @MrBibi86 23 дні тому +5

    *God I hope I look half as good as Kylie at 56*

  • @Scorchy666
    @Scorchy666 16 днів тому +2

    It's also a big problem in the US. Dolly Parton can't get played on country or pop stations unless she creates a gimmick "rock album." Same with Cher. Media giants like "discovering new talent" even though that artist has been kicking around for years generally unnoticed.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  16 днів тому

      @@Scorchy666 and some of Dolly’s later albums were genius especially the Bluegrass records

  • @kerronwalker1589
    @kerronwalker1589 10 днів тому +2

    I will never get over the fact that get outta my way was never a bigger hit, that song perfectly encapsulated everything about kylie i loved, a dark almost sinster beat with this pulsating thud in the chorus and kylie just gliding perfectly over the beat, then theres the video which was simple but so fun and kylie looked good in that gold dress.
    Anyways kylie, madonna, janet, cher, dolly and mariah deserve big props they still doing and laying the ground work for alot of the new girls in pop, rock r&b and country are doing. Kylie, Madonna and Janet are still doing the pop thing and killing it better then alot of the new girls because they have that large legacy behind them. Mariah will always hold that Christmas place her song always charts around that time at number 1 cause she is that girl and cher and dolly defined generations of talent and definitely helped uplift multiple geners into mainstream relevance. Without these woman alot of music would not be what it is today.
    Kylie i find inspirational because even though shes never made it BIG state side she always flourished outside so well in europe, south america, asia and the austalia and the pacific territory and i think thats what has kept her going is that shes never had to chase american popularity which i feel america has alot more ageism in the industry compared to the rest of the world, shes also kept this almost at home feeling about her like shes just your casual neighbour that has made it huge and is a mega popstar but shes still your neighbour and still humble, shes also had a very public battle with her cancer run which she has spoken very openly about and i think thats brought her to this human level.
    I just love kylie shes so fun and her music has stood the test of time, i personally dont like padam i think its one of the more generic songs shes released but i will give it, it has rejuvinated her career amongst the younger generation.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you liked this video, I think you’ll enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @divatalk9011
    @divatalk9011  24 дні тому +53

    What’s your favourite Kylie song??

    • @Downfall1990
      @Downfall1990 24 дні тому +10

      Love at first sight

    • @MattCr0ft
      @MattCr0ft 24 дні тому +8

      I can’t get enough of Get out of my Way

    • @FreddyTony
      @FreddyTony 24 дні тому +9

      The One

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  24 дні тому +4

      The one particularly that remix is amazing

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  24 дні тому +9

      Get out of my way deserved to be a top ten hit

  • @zaasfromparis
    @zaasfromparis 23 дні тому +3

    Katie and her team are so smart! She’s a bit like Madonna when it comes to surround herself with great people + she’s a great performer and on top of that she have a great voice especially live

  • @raindrops21_9
    @raindrops21_9 15 днів тому +1

    While I know that being commercially popular/successful is great for the artist's bottom line, I don't consider it any indication of their worth - in fact, I would argue that if the masses aren't keen, you're probably doing something right (with notable exceptions of course, like The Beatles, whose talent is unarguable). Kyle produced the very best work of her career during the mid-late 90s and early 2000s. That so many didn't appreciate it at the time - largely due to the industry or critic's poor judgement in not promoting or supporting her - is no reflection on her stellar output.
    Her most recent work may not be to my personal taste, but as someone who's adored her since the early days I couldn't be more delighted for her current success. Long live La Minogue!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you liked this video, you might enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva” in modern music

  • @anthonycoca2202
    @anthonycoca2202 18 днів тому +2

    Bottom line ~
    Music has no expiration date.
    Neither do artists.
    Ageism is a form of sexism.
    Both are archaic views that need to end.
    Period.

  • @Transformer-x6t
    @Transformer-x6t 23 дні тому +3

    Ageism didn't effect Kylie until after Aphrodite. Previously it was more musical choices. People didn't find Indie Kylie credible. And I say that as someone who despises ageism

    • @danidejaneiro8378
      @danidejaneiro8378 22 дні тому

      True. She was a soap actress turned manufactured pop star and this bothered the gatekeepers of "cool" who don't think music can be just fun.

  • @npats550
    @npats550 9 днів тому +1

    MADONNA-Please take note. THIS IS HOW YOU AGE GRACEFULLY AND BEAUTIFULLY.

  • @coasterblocks3420
    @coasterblocks3420 21 день тому +3

    Impossible Princess was huge at home here in Australia.

  • @Cicilo1983
    @Cicilo1983 20 днів тому +2

    I've loved Kylie's music since her debut album, and still do to this day. Ageism sucks, whether in the entertainment industry or in society. But it's not just women, no matter how contemporary and popular this narrative is. Bruce Springsteen doesn't get any radio airplay when he releases new stuff. Neither do the Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Rod Stewart, Bon Jovi, Bryan Adams and countless other "veteran male singers", in spite of the fact that their albums regularly enter the top 5 of the charts, and even though they still continuously sell out venues across the world. It's not always about gender oppression, you know ?

    • @Sthuont
      @Sthuont 11 днів тому

      Yeah that is a valid point, however I think there is a difference in the timing of the ageist discrimination for males vs. females. For males it seems to happen once they're in their later years, for females though it happens once they hit middle age, even once they reach 30 honestly, which I don't think most would consider middle age just yet. I agree though, it's definitely happening to males as well.

  • @greyLeicester
    @greyLeicester 2 дні тому

    Kylie was huge in the late 90s early 00s with disco tunes like Spinning around, cant get you out of my head, in your eyes and love at first sight ❤

  • @stephenwilliams1269
    @stephenwilliams1269 2 дні тому

    Great video regarding Kylie longevity and continued popularity with is richly deserved. A true Icon of Pop.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you like this one you might like my current one of the death of music divas

  • @xxrowtrave23xx
    @xxrowtrave23xx 17 днів тому +1

    I would say post Aphrodite 2010s Kylie was an overlooked success. Kiss Me Once charted #2 and #1 in the UK and Australia, while Abbey Road Sessions and Kylie Christmas also sold a lot of records.

  • @vincentgavigan5605
    @vincentgavigan5605 14 днів тому +1

    Thank you for putting this together. Brilliant

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @pinatacolada7986
    @pinatacolada7986 17 днів тому +1

    It might have been the case that fresh new young stars had an advantage over older musicians back in the 80s or 90s but that's absolutely not the case anymore. Look at the line up for Glastonbury, it's like a museum of elderly singers. It's been extremely hard to break into the mainstream music industry for the past 15 years. Kylie was simply born at the right time and marketed as a gay icon.

  • @velvetmusic9851
    @velvetmusic9851 18 днів тому +1

    An industry is an entity that does products in an industrial way, repeats the product or products with slight changes on the versions over time, because the goal is not art, obviously. Art and industry are not words I would associate.

  • @charliequinn_
    @charliequinn_ 12 днів тому +1

    In comparison to Radio 1, Capital FM were very supportive of Padam Padam. Despite being another radio station aimed particularly at younger audiences, it did get played on there frequently at the time. Ironically, Padam did eventually get playlisted by Radio 1 after backlash on social media but on the C List.

    • @Sthuont
      @Sthuont 11 днів тому

      Yeah, Capital FM did end up becoming a very strong supporter of Padam and Kylie, and they deserve praise and credit for that.
      Radio 1 however deserves defunding...

  • @DamirBabic-xc5po
    @DamirBabic-xc5po 23 дні тому +2

    She is timeless I say! Never old a true pop queen respect I say always and forever queen kylie😍🤩👑💝💖💗💓❤️

  • @davidandersen1053
    @davidandersen1053 22 дні тому +2

    💋Diva🎙️Talk💄
    This was a brilliant documentary about our much beloved:
    🌈KYLIE🌟
    Thanks 4️⃣ posting this
    🤩👌

  • @overthecounterbeanie
    @overthecounterbeanie 13 днів тому +2

    However I feel many popstars dig their own proverbial graves by emphasising their bodies and sexuality as part of their image. Twenty years from now nobody will slam Adele or Billie Eilish for being too old because being young and sexy was never part of their allure.

  • @courtneypuzzo2502
    @courtneypuzzo2502 18 днів тому +1

    my favorite Kylie song is I Should Be So Lucky in Love or Especially for You her duet with Jason Donovan

  • @dionneking8
    @dionneking8 22 дні тому +2

    Very true you have to fight radio to play an older popstar music 🎶 im glad kylie minogue still stands

  • @EclesysGalaxy
    @EclesysGalaxy 10 днів тому +1

    Kylie Minogue has been making *PERFECT* pop music since decades! All her albums are full of earworms and fierce tracks! In a perfect world, Kylie would be still topping the charts cuz her music is that good! and she is a beautiful person, in and out! However, she has unbreakable walls that are stopping her music from getting the recognition it deserves! The US have always had a prejudice against her, they never let her music breakthrough (Fever aside, that was a miracle, but it was also during an era where a lot of non us music was big there, like t.A.T.u were a sensation in the us as well). Body Language and X were exactly what the US craved back then, and X (just like BLACKOUT) were between the first albums to ever bring that kind of electro pop to the table!! Lots of people don't listen to Kylie because they have a prejudice against her (created by the media, framing her as a non deserving, series b popstar), they just hate her when the only song they know of hers is CGYOOMH lmao! Unbelieavable reality we live in. Madonna has also suffered the same destiny due to her age! People don't even know any album track from her album post Confession, neither how her tours looked like, but they still have the guts to say that she is not good anymore!! She delivered bops after bops till Rebel Heart. And, when the audience asked for her to be experimental again, she gave them Madame X, which was hated for being too weird (but that's what they wanted, she just did what she has always done. She merged popular music of the time [trap pop] with what she admired at that time [portugal culture and traditional music]) Moreover, they also make fun of her for not being able to dance like she used to. Guys, not even Janet Jackson at 58 can dance like she used to. Madonna wasn't half the dance Janet was, and she is still delivering at 66!! These people complaining are in their 20ies and can't do what Madonna is doing now without getting back ache LOL
    Sorry for the essay guys, but i can't really understand people anymore. The popstars have never fell off, it's the audience that it's making it difficult for them.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you liked this video, I think you’ll enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

    • @EclesysGalaxy
      @EclesysGalaxy 3 дні тому

      @@divatalk9011 just watched it! Great video. Can't lie, miss the divas era

  • @rodneyrabel7527
    @rodneyrabel7527 19 днів тому +2

    Kylie is amazing. I love all her music have been a big fan for a very long time.❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Rocco.rocket
    @Rocco.rocket 11 днів тому +1

    Kylie is such a beautiful soul, she deserves everything she has and YES the gays are always gonna love her for empowering and being an strong alliance to the community. We love you Kylie

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @dyo6909
    @dyo6909 20 днів тому +2

    She is queen and timelessss❤

  • @LadyVenVen
    @LadyVenVen 12 днів тому +1

    The singlets chart doesn’t mean anything anymore. Anything can go #1 and disappear just as fast as it came. Kylie will stand the test of time.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @knipsi37
    @knipsi37 20 днів тому +1

    Fantastic summary spot on!!! ❤❤❤

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  20 днів тому

      Thanks very much I really appreciate your comment. I made a similar video on Madonna

  • @charliereed9925
    @charliereed9925 19 днів тому +2

    We'll always be loyal to our Kyle 💖🙌

  • @therealpancakegirl777
    @therealpancakegirl777 11 днів тому +1

    good for her… carve out her own career. her y2k album was amazing, just such good music

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @adamsinclair998
    @adamsinclair998 23 дні тому +8

    she's been my favourite artist for decades - she is the queen of pop

  • @feliperodriguez851
    @feliperodriguez851 19 днів тому +2

    Kyle needs to do another world tour.

  • @PaisleyParkGirl
    @PaisleyParkGirl 7 днів тому

    Being a fan since day one, this woman has been the soundtrack of positivity throughout my life! #KylieMinogue ❤

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @tambyandriantefinavalomamp357
    @tambyandriantefinavalomamp357 23 дні тому +5

    Real Queen kylie

  • @headlesspostman
    @headlesspostman 23 дні тому +1

    Such a good commentary video ! Kudos to you 🎉

  • @tylerjohnson340
    @tylerjohnson340 19 днів тому +2

    Hi. Love Kylie and love your channel. Subscribed.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  19 днів тому

      Thanks you so much I really appreciate it!

  • @adammurphy6845
    @adammurphy6845 18 днів тому +1

    Long live the Princess of Pop!

  • @Spectatorofthegames
    @Spectatorofthegames 23 дні тому +2

    More of us fans will realize that these women are fighting behind the scenes yet they continue to eat it. My point is they really need our help when it comes to charting, selling, etc. even calling radio stations. They get 0 support from Those bastards.

  • @WhyYouEnvious
    @WhyYouEnvious 22 дні тому +2

    Impossible princess is my favourite child

  • @dayleashleynolasco5765
    @dayleashleynolasco5765 6 днів тому

    It doesnt matter, Kyle Minogue is still the most talented woman & gorgoeus Singer that every man's dream way back in the 90's to 2000's till 2015.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @briannalee1998
    @briannalee1998 День тому +1

    Imagine seeing someone in their 30’s as old…🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

  • @ColinPotts-u6f
    @ColinPotts-u6f 2 дні тому

    Kylie will go on for a long time.
    And Kylie is gorgeous and butefull as always.
    Lots of love kylie ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ubxtch
    @ubxtch 15 днів тому

    Australia had her back during the 90’s. Even post Fever as well. She knows where her home really is. ❤
    Also Padam won the grammy

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      If you liked this video, you might enjoy my latest on “The Death of the music Diva” in modern music

  • @Scripture-Man
    @Scripture-Man 20 днів тому +1

    The music industry isn't "age-ist". I can think of several reasons why older artists get pushed out…
    *1. Demographic*
    Firstly, the industry's biggest consumers tend to be a young demographic who are more interested in stars their own age. Many sectors of the music industry deliberately target children because they see that as a lucrative market.
    *2. Novelty*
    Then there's novelty - audiences are always looking for "the next big, exciting thing". They want the coolest new acts, not something that's been around for decades and "your parents like". It's not biased against women. How many MALE singers from the 80s are Radio 1 still promoting? To give one example, Shakin' Stevens released an album last year and I'd be surprised if Radio 1 promoted it.
    *3. Trends*
    It's also about what's fashionable - young new artists tend to represent (and define) the latest musical trends. Styles of singing, rapping, dancing, producing, and clothing fashion. It's obvious that young people are the ones to lead with these trends. Being perfectly in step with current-year fashions simply doesn't come as natural to older singers.
    *4. Hotness*
    And finally, there's hotness. And this matters. Female pop stars are obviously going to have a big advantage if they're young and pretty. This doesn't mean it's ALL about looks, or that older women aren't pretty (I love older women). But it would be ridiculous to think that having youthful looks (and being a more "virginal" age) don't play a part in popularity. Teenagers simply aren't going to find a woman of Kylie's age physically appealing. There's also the fact that a lot of pop stars "live fast" and don't age well. Plus, by a certain age, many pop stars are married with families, making the idea of them being "idols" far less appropriate.
    In my opinion, I truly think that longevity in the industry isn't really about talent, it's really all about luck. There are thousands and thousands of hugely talented artists who COULD have gone on to have decades-long careers, but didn't, simply because luck just didn't go their way. They didn't "catch on".
    Kylie is one of the lucky few. It could so easily have gone the other way for her, but she just happened to get good promotion (and 1 great track by Cathy Dennis and Rob Davis) just at the right time. That can be all it takes - good promotion and 1 great track. Though Kylie has also been hugely carried by her Neighbours and SAW legacy. Everyone in the UK watched her "marriage" in the 80s so she feels like family. This made her a household name, and put her at a huge advantage.
    Just for the record, I'm a huge SAW fan and was a big Kylie fan for many years, buying all her albums. BTDYK is still one of my top two favourite songs. Over the years, I gradually lost interest in her career, for various reasons which I won't go into. I absolutely hated "Padam" and for me that was the end of my interest in her career. Though on a personal level I wish her all the best of course.

  • @darylharrison1112
    @darylharrison1112 23 дні тому +1

    Impossible Princess was a big hit in Australia because we loved the reinvention and we loved "Indie Kylie". BBC sucks as much as ageism.

  • @lukefrew631
    @lukefrew631 19 днів тому +2

    Legend.

  • @DiscoTimelordASD
    @DiscoTimelordASD 21 день тому +3

    Didn’t the same thing happen to Cher?
    - Believe was massive clubbing hit.
    - Strong Enough was less popular, but known.
    - Dové
    la amore was.... there, but hardly a chart topper.
    Then Cher was gone from the charts.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  21 день тому +1

      I made a video about Cher actually if you look through my channel

  • @aapeetube
    @aapeetube 7 днів тому

    Well, Padam Padam was the record of the week on BBC Radio 2. So was Midnight Ride and My Oh My. Edge of Saturday Night was just nominated as the hottest record on BBC Radio 1. It's not so black and white.

  • @minirth.maggie
    @minirth.maggie 6 днів тому

    Kylie's new single My Oh My with Bebe Rexha and Tove Lo is so good live. They did her dirty with so much autotune on the single!!!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

  • @TheGritherr
    @TheGritherr 4 дні тому

    I didn't know this, good for her! Love someone beating the odds, way to go Kylie!!!!

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  3 дні тому

      If you enjoyed this video, you might like my latest on “The Death of the music Diva”

    • @TheGritherr
      @TheGritherr 3 дні тому

      @@divatalk9011 never learned how to get satisfaction from another’s death 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  2 дні тому

      I hope you’re joking 😂.
      It’s not literal death….
      It’s about changes in music

  • @stefank.1638
    @stefank.1638 20 днів тому +1

    Madonna and Kylie are simply the best

  • @miloradvlaovic
    @miloradvlaovic 23 дні тому +2

    How does a radio like BBC one even decide what is the material their audiences like? Surely you'd have to play them some Kylie so they can let you know, at least by tuning in or not that they don't like, or "heavens forbidd" - that they do 😏😏.
    Even if your targeted audience is ppl bellow 20 (which considering the ages of vast majority of ppl who work at such places is deeply problematic in or of itself, on several layers) they still might like the music - if you like the music you don't have to like the person behind it, letalone consider their age, looks or popularity.
    The sad and appaling truth is that entities like Billboard and large radios have been trying for more than a decade now to manipulate the general public into considering some of the music successful and fresh and good, and all the rest a complite opposite. They've tried to do this by limiting exposure to music that what they biasedly chose to.

    • @danidejaneiro8378
      @danidejaneiro8378 22 дні тому

      When I was 18, I was definitely bopping to Cher's Believe which she recorded in her 50s

  • @ladydomiollo
    @ladydomiollo 9 днів тому

    I remember being so into Kylie when she started getting attention in the states (I think i was about 10). Age be damned, Kylie was and still is the type of woman I want to be 😊
    A bit unpopular, but I love Wow.

    • @divatalk9011
      @divatalk9011  9 днів тому +1

      @@ladydomiollo what other songs do you enjoy?

    • @ladydomiollo
      @ladydomiollo 9 днів тому

      @@divatalk9011 Slow, Fever, Burning Up, Aphrodite, Too Much, Into the Blue, Real Groove, Green Light I think are my most listened to 😅 Favorite albums are Fever and Body Language.

  • @damienmorrison7226
    @damienmorrison7226 23 дні тому +5

    when all is said and done...Kylie has had the last laugh

  • @collegeri
    @collegeri 20 днів тому

    Kylie was the biggest comeback in music as far as I’m concerned. 2001 Scumfrogs mix!

  • @JESUSWONTHEWAR
    @JESUSWONTHEWAR 10 годин тому

    Kylie is a class act. Very sweet woman.

  • @michaeljohndennis2231
    @michaeljohndennis2231 18 днів тому

    How Dare they try to shut down Kylie - how very dare they 🇮🇪☘️🇮🇪😍😍😍

  • @Perlzy
    @Perlzy 4 дні тому

    Great narrative, thank you