New Floyd Rose FRX Retrofitting Tremolo Instructions
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Years in the making, the Floyd Rose FRX Tremolo System has finally been approved and manufactured! This is the official instructional video, where Floyd himself guides you through the installation and possible set-up variations of this revolutionary system. The FRX is designed to retrofit Gibson-style guitars, and comes with both standard and metric posts to retrofit both Gibson and Epiphone guitars, along with many other guitar brands that utilize the Tune-O-Matic bridge and tailpiece combo. The bridge can be easily set up blocked (EVH style), fully floating and a new variation called “assisted floating” for better tuning stability than ever before on a floating Floyd Rose system. No routing is required, only two small wood screws are necessary to mount the FRX locking nut behind your guitar’s existing nut!
Thanks for watching, and feel free to contact support@floydrose.com with any questions!
If you would like to be one of the first guitarists to pre-order and receive this system, pre-order directly from FloydRose.com!
Holy shit! Floyd Rose... Is a guy!?
No shit sherlock
DUH what kind of dumbass parent would name their little girl Floyd?!?!
MrJv123jv yes and he was in a band Q5 www.metal-archives.com/bands/Q5/1449
BullSpit maybe he thought its a pure brand name..
LechQuem What chick do you know named Floyd?
This guy reminds me of that teacher that starts tellin' a story and before you know it, school's over, you're single again and the police are looking for you in 5 different states
+Cristian Popa HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA good one ...
Thats REALLY FUCKIN' FUNNY!!! Good job!!!
I don’t get it
@@mineguitarerer Me neither
That made no sense but it was funny as hell
It's like being lectured on General Relativity from Einstein himself
11:50 ! Even the CREATOR of these damn bridges forgets to use the fine tuners
Supposedly the Gentleman from ' 'Coherent Sound and Light' Licensed the Idea to Mr Floyd Rose'_4 Decades Ago (Heard it in a Namm Interview) 🎸
@@spiritzweispirit1st638 it was actually Eddie Van Halen that came up with fine tuners.
I found it funny when he said "Hi, i'm Floyd Rose". I mean, i'm so used to hear "I have Floyd Rose on my guitar" my whole live that it's weird to actually hear guy come up and say "I'm [the] FR".
LOL I thought the same!
Kinda takes a shit on Gibson's robot tuners doesn't it.
Gibson's robot tuners took a shit on Gibson's robot tuners...
You mean the tuners that aren't even made by Gibson, but a rebrand of Tronical tuners?
It's good to know that,I've got a Tone Pros bridge on my 339,will that be a good match with the F.R lock nut?
Respect my Brother.robot tunings for robots.lol
actually I own both bridges and though it has its quirks, overall I prefer the Tronical tuners
Had to laugh at 11:45 when Floyd himself started to tune with the headstock tuners...LOL.... I expect that from 'non-Floyd' players but caught me by surprise on this video...
This is definitely a design flow
Funny as hell! Maybe he was stoned when he made the video (:D
pretty obvious the locking nuts were not locket yet
They nut wasn’t locked yet
The man himself probably hates his own design. Lmao
13:05 He has already accidentally gouged a small hole through the paint with the allen wrench.
I love my Floyd Rose equipped guitars, but I really wish setting the intonation was easier (original Floyd).
they have a product now called "hollow points" that makes intonation as easy as with a tune-o-matic system. go check their website for it.
@@TheWolvesCurse idk about as easy (yes I own some) but definetly WAY easier than setting them by hand.
A tutorial created by the creator- It doesn't get any better than this. I crave as much information on any given subject or procedure as I can possibly get, and this video certainly delivers. Outstanding Mr. Rose. This cemented my decision to buy one of these for my next build.
Huh, I was considering finding a floating trem for my SG just a few hours ago with a friend. This may be a sign. Good job Mr Rose.
Really surprised that something like this didn't come out sooner! Brilliant idea, FR!!
I had the surface mount Floyd trem that was made in the 80s on my Les Paul. I really hope these are made far better than those. They sounded like a tin can and broke within a month with light use. I've always been a Floyd fan otherwise. The F.R. trem was one of the single greatest contributions and innovations to the instrument ever. It changed entire genres of rock playing. Thanks you for all of that.
I love the 'it's a problem if you drill through the head stock." I'm guessing there are people who don't wrap a piece of tape around the drill bit to guide the depth, but they probably aren't trying to install one of these on a $1000+ guitar. You usually only do that once...
The laugh says he learnt that the hard way.
He was probably thinking of EVH :)
Not to bore us with the most important part. Setting it up! lmao.
Hey Floyd, I've gotta ask man. Why haven't you ever came out with a design for a Floyd Rose bass tremolo? I know it's a niche market, but their is a market, small as it may be.
because khaler has taken it all
Brian Elkins because Floyd *is* a guitarist. As an inventor he’s probably mainly inspired to invent things that solve problems that he personally comes across
No Amp?... com on man! we want to hear it cranked up! ♫
Floyd can't afford it LoL
It's cool, but for a starting price of 399.00 you can pick up a good used guitar with a floyd already in it.
you're right but it's designed for high end Gibsons which range around $1000 or more so $400 isn't too bad for an add on for that,
Thats MSRP. It should sell around 250-300
For 399 you'll get a guitar with a "Licensed Floyd Rose".
alscort93 I bought a 1986 Kramer Focus single pickup with Original Floyd Rose for $150. Pawn shops can be your friend. ;)
Luck is luck and used is used lol. New, the US made Floyd is $200, or you can pick up a Korean Special for $85, but you might as well get an aftermarket licensed Floyd probably made by the same sweat shop for $60-70.
I LOVE that you went to the tuning peg after you'd set the clamp.
You are human ;)
Robert Swanson
sweet Jesus judging from the commentaries here that I'm reading I see that this thing came out 3 years ago; its 2018 now...
Thats how long it takes to tune. Man , you would have to b at your gig site 5 hours early just to set your guitar up
This SG with a floyd made me wanna give up on guitar
At 5:06 I'm interested in seeing how you set the intonation, since it appears to be one hell of a monster feat to accomplish.
I think this is a very, very important step that should not have been skipped.
It looks like it's the same as the original floyd rose bridge. You have to slack the string, loosen the nut with an allen key, nudge it a bit in the right direction, tighten everything back up and repeat with every string. Once you get it set up though you don't need to adjust it again unless you change string gauges or tunings. Hope this helped
this is so awsome i'd totally replace my old FR with this one. great job!!!
Will this work on a hello kitty acoustic guitar?
No way would I modify a Hello Kitty guitar and mess with the value.
Hello kitty acoustics are best modified by adding a pickup, then running them through a korg miku, and then two boss metal zones
please make one for 7 string guitars !!! I'd love this upgrade on my ESP Stephen Carpenter baritone 7...
why you don,t use the screw holes from the truss rod cover, for the design of the locking nut, you will not need to drill any hole in your precious guitar....only you will need take off the cover and install the locking nut directly ...sorry for my bad english
I have a ton of complaints on this thing. The first of many is the fact that the only videos out there on the installation of this bridge is on flat body guitars. No arched body guitars like Les Paul styled. The installation and set up instructions are vague AT BEST!!
Specific complaints:
1. Height of "intonation posts" being 5/8" of an inch in this video. That works on flat top guitars. Not arched.
2. String height/action screws: do these have to be set so base plate is level?
3. How about a video on installation completely from scratch and not preset/ after the fact. Like, string height abs all the other setup bullshit only comes after truss rod adjustment.
4. Intonation issues: strings cannot be intonated because of all of previous mentioned problems. Strings 1, 2 and 3 saddles can't be moved forward anymore because they're already on the forward screw position.
5. The tension adjustment screw is not centered in the back hole which needs to be supposedly. All talk about this and nothing is discussed about how to make sure it is.
Great ideas behind the unit but Floyd Rose R&D needed about 5 more years of testing. The marketing department is a joke at best. The support department doesn't fucking exist because not only have I attempted contact but so many others have tried and failed also.
Thank you for personally creating this tutorial. I’m going to consider this for upcoming builds (and one of my own guitars first :) . You truly care about your products, that is evident.
This SG is probably the most in-tune SG in this freaking planet lol
I can't believe there is no left-handed version of the FRX... I almost cried when I found out...
+We Are Writers Why are we always... left out... :(
+We Are Writers There may eventually be a lefty version, but apart from the position of the arm, the FRX can be strung lefty just like all of our bridges. The reason is volume of demand vs. cost of machining. We STILL have many Original Series lefty bridges that were made in the 90's and we only made a few thousand.
+OfficialFloydRose Thanks for answering quickly. I understand the issue. I should be able to live with the problem of the arm. :)
+OfficialFloydRose ahh, a bumber, but i understand.
does this bridge really work this good?
it looks amazing and so much better than the origional floid!
+We Are Writers I wish us leftys could have as much guitar options as right handed people do :(
Great idea, but I would be more interested in a trem that mounts the same, but less bulky, and works with locking tuners instead of a locking nut.
Hell Yes I just bought a new Gibson SG and I just seen this so I ordered it I can't wait to put it on my new guitar I am so Stoked I always wanted a SG with a Floyd👍 God Bless Floyd Rose 👍🇺🇲😎
Floyd is a friggin' genius. I sent him my first guitar in 1980. Since he has been on the cutting edge of innovation. So all you others shut TFU.
Lighten up, Francis.
Aww you made Gary Kahler cry
2 years on and no one gives a shit, Thom.
@@gmmakesmehurl You seriously came back after two years just to insults this, that's pretty low
@@morrigan7066 I love irony.
Floyd Rose tremolos are great but the best tremolo system I have ever used was the Washburn Wonderbar system. The only problem is they don't make them anymore.
Agreed. I had it on an A20V back in the early 80's that got stolen as well as on my RR 11v I STILL own to this day and it works as good as day one as long as you are diligent with cleaning it. I have seen some where they have worn thru the finish and the mechanism is so gunked up it barely moves at all let a lone returns in tune.
sorry but how do i install the stings
Thank you, Floyd, for this demo. Splendid work. I love your design of the original and this FRX takes it up a notch.
It would have been nice if you could actually hear the guitar.
I'm Sorry, I just received mine in the mail, opened the box and it was incredible with a beautiful gold finish. Almost too good to believe until I flipped it over and realized I had bought Pot Metal (inexpensive die cast zinc ) with a shiny finish, It even looks like the knife edges are pot metal, I sending it right back....One drop and it's likely to fracture . Unless I got a bootlegged copy (fake) which would make sense but I don't think is the case, Why did you cheap out on manufacturing, You are a legend in tremolo's , your original model was all German hardened steel, your Speedloader was incredible fine machined steel, except for the fact you can't get strings for it and makes it obsolete it was a perfection way ahead of it's time. Now this Pot metal unit, really? unless you can get one of the 10 only limited (unobtanium) Titanium units made for $2999.00, you have to go with cast monkey metal that's lighter than aluminum. Could you at least make one thats machined steel with hardened pivots to put on Premium guitars. Bring back the love, sorry, highly disappointed . Please tell me I'm wrong, is this why there's no information listed about what's it's made of.
I bought an 300$ FXR. They don't even provide a means to adjust intonation accurately. Support was unpolite and just said you have to shell out another 50$ for some sheet metal intonation thingy. Apart from that an allen wrench was missing so I had to drive a couple of miles to purchase one. Support just ignored my email about that. Looks they hate customers.
If the trem don't have the trem stopper,it would look awesome...the guitar look like it have a big chunk of metal attach on it...please do a version without the triangle trem stopper mr.floyd rose...it ugly as sh*t...😂😂😂
Can you make it any bigger?
Next we’re gonna see a “Floyd rose” guitar and all its gonna be is just one large trem bar with stings
Question: When setup in full floating mode, will the FRX hit to painted are of the body and cause damage?
Hi, I am Vintage Tremolo, cheers everyone!
Freaks me out watching this because every time I set up a guitar I’m freaked out about scratching it with the tools.
Nice to see Floyd , the trem looks beautiful , I'd be worried about drilling holes in a Gibson headstock though, I wonder how well it would work with a string Butler instead of a locking nut??
I was hopeful and Tried that. It’s a no go…
1. The break angle on the headstock creates unstable tuning
2. The Nut takes a beating with the strings grinding on it.
I want one on my explorer now
;)
Nice and Great Idea... But I wish I could to this FRX with the Floyd Rose PRO because it's the perfect Floyd Rose. I don't like the Original : because you can't put the palm of your right hand without moving the precise screws. And the screws print your right hand. With the Floyd Rose PRO the screws are in perfect place. That is the reason I am waiting for this new Floyd Rose with the PRO block. It will be perfection for me.
Floyd Rose is a revolution Tremolo and the best invention.
Good thing it's just "Epiphone".
I wouldn't waste Les Paul on that.
Man the first Floyd Rose I can really say "I wont mind to put one on my guitars!". And the idea of the up locking, was THE thing missing for making them perfect for me :-)
I am traditional in my visual tastes for a trem (Fender, 6 screw or 2 point) and have stayed away from Floyds. but this unit really is a solid option for stoptail guitars! Kudos Floyd Rose!
I have a couple of suggestion for the locking nut.
Couldn't you just use the original holes for the truss rod cover to retrofit it in there, and include a magnetic truss rod cover with the locking nut, that just snaps in place against the metal in the locking nut support plate? I say that because I'd imagine the holes for the cover are more than sufficient to hold the locking mechanism in place (specially with the strings holding it against the neck as well), and having a magnetic cover would be much more convenient than dealing with screws.
The sistem is great! Is it also to be installed on an epiphone explorer guitar?
Awesome design, but I think that there is one little flaw.
If the locking nut and truss rod cover are one piece, why not just use the middle locking nut allen wrench screw to secure the bottom part of the locking nut to the headstock where there already was an existing hole from the original truss rod cover? That way you wouldn't need to drill those two extra holes.
I am wondering if this will work on a esp or ltd guitar with tune o matic bridge? will the head stock part fit?
and what about a baritone guitar? thank you so much:D
what about 7 string version of frx, will it ever be?
Would love to put this on my rockburn les Paul copy! If only I had the imperial credits (money)...
This is a good idea, surprised no one has come out with something like this already. The advantage is that your Gibson will finally be in tune, and stay that way!
That being said, there are a few curious things about this design:
1. Cutting the ball ends off of the string, I have always disliked this about FR designs. Why not design it so you can leave the ball ends on and then clamp?
2. Everything adjusts with hex keys. I know this is standard for many guitars, but wouldn't a way to avoid that be more innovative? Notice how he skips over the part where you have to get the strings on and get that puppy intonated. My experience with FRT is that it always takes lots of time, and is somewhat painful.
3. You avoid routing the body, but you still have to put extra holes in the headstock.
I would have to play it to see how it feels for picking hand muting and such. I am not much of a FRT player though, so maybe I am not the target market. IDK, doesn't seem to be that big of deal to me
well to address your first issue, the problem with leaving the ball ends on (khalers and ibanez trems let you do this) is that the ends of the strings (just above the ball where the string comes back up and is wrapped around a few times) is a weak point. Not many string companies make this part strong enough. Most players that use khalers will actually solder the ends of their strings to fix this issue. It is actually easier and more secure to just clip the ends off or do the Tom Morrello thing and put the strings on backwards.
Jacob Vieira you still have to clip off the ends of the wound strings when you do the Morello thing.
Jacob Vieira
True about the string ball ends, I have had them just fail on regular guitars. What I was thinking was a mechanism that allowed you to feed the ball in, then clamp the string without having to remove the ball end. Cutting the string ball off is just an extra step that could, in theory, be eliminated.
You could just put the string through the tuning posts backwards so that the ball end is on the headstock side. No ball end removal necessary and it really cuts down on the eye poke factor
It's worth it once it's finished and wire clippers aren't to hard to come around
Awesome!! You need to make a 7 string version of this!!
For gibsons with 7 strings? lol
@@nirki No. ESP's and even Schecters often have tune o'matic bridges. Not just Gibsons... Though, many of these guitars that I'm referring to are string through, this is not always the case. I have known quite a few guitarists that have owned fixed bridge 7-string guitars from companies like these that would have loved the option to have a Floyd. A lot of these people ended up installing Kahler top mounts instead... In fact, a couple of Death Metal bands that I was in insisted on their guitarists having 7-string guitars with Floyd Rose bridges. However, this is more important for the lead guitarist. If you're more of a groove guy, that mainly plays drop tuning rhythm guitar that relies strictly on low "chuggs" and pinch harmonics, then maybe all that I'm saying doesn't apply. In conclusion, IF it's worth it for Floyd Rose to make a top mount floating bridge for Gibson (6 string) guitars, it shouldn't be that far off to make them for 7 string. After all, Kahler made one...
@@AlikaMadis but this bridge is made for gibsons not for 7 strings, im pretty sure there is a 7 strings floyd rose on ibanezes
@@nirki Uhm. Not really. This isn't only for Gibsons, but anything with a tune o'matic and stop tail piece... That's one of the many standard fixed bridges of the guitar world besides the hard tail strat and the many variations of that. Gibson just uses that style almost exclusively. As I said, ESP and Schecter (as well as other companies) use this bridge style also. They just seem to prefer the string-through variety of the same bridge, which Gibson also uses often (ex: Gibson Korina Flying V), but not as often as the variation with the stop tail piece. And no, Ibanez guitars have NEVER come standard with Floyd Rose bridges. You're thinking of the "Edge" system or their other systems based on the Floyd bridge, which are not made of the same high quality steel as a floyd rose. So you can expect problems with heavy use. Again, it really depends on your level of professionalism and experience, but I feel even on a semi-professional level, you can expect problems with bridges with lower grade metal. I'm not saying that the Ibanez floating system is bad, but I, like many other guitarists, prefer Floyd Rose for quality, consistency and tone.
But I guess a seven string stop tail piece is bigger than the 6 strings one
Legend. I am certain he doesn't need the $ but still inventing and giving online tutorials. I think he should post videos of his EVH stories. This is a truly awesome invention. I love a floyd just for tuning stability. My music room is humidity controlled so I can tune a guitar, lock my floyd, pick up a month later and still in tune.
Is this compatible on firebird?
0:19 he does mention that it is compatible with all Gibson guitars, so I’d say that includes your Firebird as well. Happy playing!
@@theamateurfurry4735 oh thank you ❤️
Pretty bad when the inventor of the floyd takes the inovative trem arm set screw of the GOTOH ge1996t and uses it on his shit
Floyd rose kinda gave up on progressing the trem after the 90s. Gotoh and Ibanez took it and made many improvements.
Why did you discontinue making the Discovery Flying V? That's an awesome guitar!
will it fit a BC Rich
Will this work in any guitars with a TOM bridge & stop bar, or are they shaped specifically for Gibson bodies?
i'm not sure about drilling my sg... how about scenario when floyd rose bridge part mixed with schaller locking tuner? it's still going to work?
Looks like it's clearing that bridge pickup by about a 32nd of an inch. I'd be a bit concerned about ordering one based on that alone. What if the guitar I want to put it on has a pickup that's a hair further back?
Will this work on an Ibanez Iceman, though?
I'd assume so
One of these landed in a field in my back yard and a couple gray dudes with big black eyes came out, abducted me and played with my pee pee.
I needed a laugh after frustration with this installation. Thanks
Please do bore me with the string installation, I take it you cut the ball off the string and attached them with a lock screw?
That would be very helpful
pretty much it's the same thing as a stetsbar....
i like your funny words magic man
Interesting idea for sure. There's no chance I would ever route my LP standard for an OFR 😂
I'm thinking of routing my explorer and put a normal one, have you bought this one?
Love it installed it but thanks for the nylon screw 😂damnit
Does it work on a explorer 1984?
God damn im thinking about that. It should be:)
Can I get this off the Website now, or is it still in Preorder?
Floyd that is fucking genius man!! Take a bow mate. A+. I love it!!
Dear Mr. Rose - is there a possible variation of this you could develop that would retrofit old Kahlers? There are so many classic 80's guitars w/ Kahlers that could have new life with Floyds. Pls pls pls.
No dude I'm 12 I don't have much money so I can only afford epiphone so im wondering
i think the stetsbar system looks cooler
I’m obviously late to the game but man I sure dig the FRX. The stability and the looks are off the charts.
Thanks Mr. Rose for the design.
Such a poor explanation unbelievable! LOL
shut up
I have that screw driver... lol
Talking about the nut or anything that requires small screws....you don't need to drill anything, you can go with the screws alone and they will just go in by themselves. In case you wanna make sure the screws go straight softly hammer a small nail first to create a channel. You won't crack the wood as long as you don't go super fast in with an electric screwdriver.
I've done this over and over on many of my guitars....just don't waste your time drilling. Drilling also can create a problem if the hole is too wide. Believe me, just don't drill, is only needed when the screws are thick.
I finished my build on a LTD Viper-400 and installed the FRX and this trem is the BEST tremolo system I have ever played,I had to tweek some adjustments and just use it for diving and this is incredibly smooth,with a quick allen wrench adjustment you can control the tension on the downward force,I just sold my Epiphone with a regular trem and this is a keeper,by far the very best trem I have ever played,thanks Mr. Rose.
+OfficalFloydRose Love the idea of this but the guy in the vid I have linked here isn't having much luck with the tuning of the guitar after the installation of the FRX. Wondering if others are having the same issues after installation?
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Can the new model be recessed at all? 1/4"? 1/2"?
I figured two screws would be easy. I measured many times, found the drill bit closest to the diameter of the screws without going over, did the 2.5mm pilot screw per the booklet, went more like 5mm because the screws were stubborn, turned slowly and carefully, and then... stripped one screw and broke the head off the other right as it got tight.
So my Les Paul's headstock is a mess. I'm not even sure what to do. I've used screws in maybe hundreds or thousands of jobs, but can't remember something like this happening. I'm at a loss of what to do.
I cringed a bit when you reached for the tuning keys while the neck locks were tightened. We've all done it bro. At least you caught yourself before turning it. :)
I just learned this exists.... DAAAAAAAAMN. awesome.
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Installed it on my V without issues (other than the pickguard mod). I see others making videos making drastic mods to guitars saying that the FRX is flawed. Well, I just installed on a Gibson Flying V without making any mods to the body and it works flawlessly. Thank you for such a great product.🎸
Thanks Mr Rose for your invention. I don't know how many people will drill holes in the Gibson. But Thanks for the Floyd Rose System btw I have an Original thats Matt Black / Flat Black that go's on a super Strat The Bar that came w/it is a black crome, Where can I find a Matt/Flat Black bar for the Original Floyd. Thx's Great Idea for top mount you can use the tuning with the spring claw after you unblock a Rose like you did with the adjustment in the back.
that's easy. you take a piece of heat shrink tubing, slide it over the bar or arm, heat it with a heat gun and it shrinks tight and smooth. I don't like the slippery metal feel so all my trems are set up this way. cheap and easy. oh! and you can get diff colors.
a hyde Good idea but I want the right Bar every thing matches it is matte black, the finish is polished from playing it on the back of the neck & below the pick up's...I wish I could restore that Matte Black finish but NO one seems to tell you how to care & deal w/those paint jobs. I thought about using 0000 steel wool to "dull" the neck & get it to match the rest of the guitar. It's a Great Guitar & the Original Floyd makes a World of difference in tuning intonation...
This is awesome! WHEN WILL IT BE AVAILABLE FOR LEFT HANDED LP PLAYERS?!?!?!?!?!? In GOLD PLEASE!
Man I would really like this for my Epiphone SG but gosh darn it's 3x the price of the SG when I bought it new lol. Maybe one day.
can i install his with my 2013gibson les paul signature T ?
Stupid question but still, this will fit an Epi G-400 Pro too, right?
I have a Les Paul Traditional with a Bigsby tailpiece. Can I convert to the FRX...??? Don't like the Bigsby at all...!!!
** Something I found out the hard way ** The locking nut it comes with is meant for a Gibson style headstock...Not sure if that includes the Firebird/Explorer...but the nut it came with does not fit on my LTD Pheonix headstock. It's just too large, and ends up touching two of the tuning heads. I'll probably need to buy an FR nut and install that instead of the one the FRX comes with...but not something I expected.
Wow. Using a 3 dollar screwdriver...and adjusting height with a tape measure where u can't see the olives, not so precise lol...
Monstrously clunky...I have a design using the EVH setup where you don’t see anything but the unit...this looks like something from the 60s...🙁