The Problem With Video Game Monetization

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  • @glanni
    @glanni 10 місяців тому +76

    The Sims 4: Hold my beer.

    • @magdajanik5817
      @magdajanik5817 7 місяців тому +2

      THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA COMMENT OMG

  • @ProjSHiNKiROU
    @ProjSHiNKiROU 2 роки тому +718

    Unfinished buggy games at launch and DLCs are the reason I wait for Steam sales or “year 1 editions” for most AAA games: The cost will fall, the quality will rise, but the memes will stop

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому +141

      The industry does everything they can to drum up hype and get preorders and first week sales, because they know that waiting a year or more after launch will get you a better deal on a more complete game

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan 2 роки тому +36

      I miss the days where dlc were full on new campaigns or new characters to use.

    • @sosmooth13
      @sosmooth13 2 роки тому +5

      I actually experienced this for the first time in my independent (no longer living or being financially supported by my parents) living with Star Wars Battlefront 2. I got the game a year or almost half a year after it came out. Certain things like the price, MT loot boxes, buggy were being fixed.

    • @zscout1288
      @zscout1288 10 місяців тому +7

      I miss there being special bonuses if you 100% completed the game or for beating a difficult challenge

    • @solomani-42
      @solomani-42 9 місяців тому +2

      Same. Been burned too many times. You get better value if you wait.

  • @masonwagner768
    @masonwagner768 2 роки тому +586

    To echo what everyone else has already said, I’m shocked at the level of quality here from such a small channel. So far your videos are well researched, written and edited, plus your voice and manor of speaking is pleasing to listen to. You’re dry humor is also funny without it coming off as trying too hard, which is super refreshing. I look forward to seeing your channel grow!

    • @flyinghoudini4151
      @flyinghoudini4151 2 роки тому +8

      I was going to make a comment until I saw this one; hundred percent agree!

    • @NorttVander
      @NorttVander 2 роки тому +1

      that just resumes what the world is into, not only games... Full pocket ppl are trying less, putting less affort on their productions whatever those may be and mass consumers are mediocre enough to consume and support whatever shit is being offered... the few who are not satisfied end up getting upset or even tend to start getting violent or with traces of mental imbalances, this kind of ppl like Lextorias who actually put some effort to make something really valuable is like fresh air from all the stupidity, mediocrity and these despicable scams

    • @Linkman8912
      @Linkman8912 9 місяців тому +2

      *manner, but all corrections aside I absolutely agree with you

    • @masonwagner768
      @masonwagner768 8 місяців тому

      @@Linkman8912 ha, good catch. Now I’m wondering how long I’ve been spelling it wrong

    • @h445
      @h445 4 місяці тому

      lol y'all are easily impressed

  • @somesaiyanguy41
    @somesaiyanguy41 2 роки тому +1369

    the docking bit hit me hard. Funniest deadpan delivery I've heard in a long time

    • @Taklberri
      @Taklberri 2 роки тому +52

      Yoooo…. SAME. That shit was so flat and subtle you could almost miss it 🤣 perfect

    • @JasonMatsoukas
      @JasonMatsoukas 2 роки тому +9

      I missed it. Explain?

    • @macgreeze8287
      @macgreeze8287 2 роки тому +8

      It comes out of nowhere too.

    • @blushslice
      @blushslice 2 роки тому +37

      @@JasonMatsoukas google docking

    • @JasonMatsoukas
      @JasonMatsoukas 2 роки тому +69

      @@blushslice how can I undo what i saw?

  • @jameslancefield9810
    @jameslancefield9810 9 місяців тому +55

    If I see EA, anywhere on a game, its a huge red flag.

    • @xxGreenRoblox
      @xxGreenRoblox 8 місяців тому

      just because it's EA doesn't mean it's 5190% p2w there's spore which doesn't have p2w stuff and i'm pretty sure they didn't put p2w in plants vs zombies 1

    • @jameslancefield9810
      @jameslancefield9810 8 місяців тому +1

      @@xxGreenRoblox oh well. I take it all back.
      as long as those 2 games are ok. then they are fine. EA are the worst company in the world. why are you defending them?

    • @kylesarts7777
      @kylesarts7777 8 місяців тому +3

      Everything new that's came out is a red flag from EA. Literally can't play Jedi Survivor. It's been a year, and it's still unplayable on pc. Good thing I just only tried it on gamepass.

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 8 місяців тому

      ​@@xxGreenRobloxEA was only good during the 2000s when none of this greedy trash existed

    • @SgtGudda
      @SgtGudda 7 місяців тому +1

      True. Sometimes they make a decent game like the Dead Space Remake

  • @redgarlicbred6228
    @redgarlicbred6228 2 роки тому +411

    I absolutely abhor the gaming industry's monetization model. Especially gacha. Had a friend in uni that was obsessed with collecting characters. I told him to not spend too much of his cash at wc point he said "nah I only spend 5ish dollars a week on it". BRO WE ARE BOTH BROKE WE GO TO THE SAME PART TIME JOB TOGETHER 5 DOLLARS IS A WEEKS WORTH OF MEALS AHSGSWUNSJD
    Also love your vids keep them up

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому +83

      Yeah unfortunately the people spending money on games aren't even always the people with enough to spend. Some millionaire spending $5k on gacha can make a headline or a UA-cam thumbnail, but these companies prey on people making closer to minimum wage, where even $100 is a way higher percentage of their income.

    • @sosmooth13
      @sosmooth13 2 роки тому +17

      2017-18 was probably the worst we’ve had it in a while, but now companies are even trying to justify hiking their prices despite the amount of money they already make. I really hope the customers by some sort of crazy miracle, just stop spending so much money on in game purchases or mediocre titles.

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 2 роки тому +6

      @@sosmooth13 yeah it's not some local industry, this is a world wide business. 60 dollars for a good released game should now remain a standard or else subscriptions will take over.

    • @makkek69
      @makkek69 9 місяців тому

      So many zingers haha

    • @iluvmusicqwe
      @iluvmusicqwe 8 місяців тому

      Sounds like your friend is an idiot

  • @theuzi8516
    @theuzi8516 2 роки тому +183

    Dude, the comedic timings and deadpan deliveries were AMAZING in this one.

  • @Naterkix
    @Naterkix 2 роки тому +191

    I still have a soft spot for that time loot boxes were called "surprise mechanics" by some CEO and Steph Sterling reacting with the Surprise Mechanic, who is a mechanic who randomly appears and does mechanic things and/or bashing people's faces in with a hefty wrench.

  • @CurtTheHero
    @CurtTheHero 2 роки тому +184

    Man microtransactions should be illegal. They're so damn predatory and they play on a potential gambling addiction

    • @CurtTheHero
      @CurtTheHero 2 роки тому +8

      Ope didn't finish the video before I posted this. I see you made the same link

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому +36

      Yeah its sick how they exploit people like that. I was gonna talk about it more than just a mention, but didn’t have the time in the video.
      Jim Sterling has a great one on it actually: ua-cam.com/video/7S-DGTBZU14/v-deo.html

    • @CurtTheHero
      @CurtTheHero 2 роки тому +2

      @@Lextorias cool, ill have to check it out 👍

    • @redseagaming7832
      @redseagaming7832 2 роки тому +9

      I refuse to buy the microtransactions in these games cuz I remember being a kid and actually playing games that did not have this monetization garbage

    • @CurtTheHero
      @CurtTheHero 2 роки тому +1

      @@redseagaming7832 agreed

  • @alexsalazar7199
    @alexsalazar7199 2 роки тому +148

    The ad bit made me laugh harder than it should have 😂

    • @hatsjer
      @hatsjer 10 місяців тому +9

      I have YT premium. Please tell me he put an ad in that section.

    • @ChrisFrand
      @ChrisFrand 10 місяців тому +6

      @@hatsjerhe did

  • @AltairYoshi
    @AltairYoshi 2 роки тому +114

    Gacha games have got to be the most insidious monetization method by far, as well as virtual currency, because of all the trickery they pull off to obscure how much money you're spending. When I could still play Mario Kart Tour, I legit came close to dropping some cash for rubies (the premium currency) because the prices can seem really enticing, and usually it happened when I was just a bit short of them to pull the pipe which is basically the game's gacha element. I'm pretty sure I spent money on Clash of Clans and Royale back when I played them too, and even though it probably wasn't a lot, I refuse to even touch the games at all now. Even without paying money they're such time sinks that it's insane.
    Also, I just found you through your fanservice video and I gotta say your style is great, good balance of information and jokes, definitely going to stick around for more!

    • @sosmooth13
      @sosmooth13 2 роки тому +1

      I’m not 100% knowledgeable about what a gacha game is. Are those the type of games that have you spend little bits of money here and there? I do this for fortnite every 4 or 5 seasons. Sometimes even drop an extra buck if I realize I’m missing out on in-game currency in games like Destiny 2 for something. Do those examples count?

    • @BMoser-bv6kn
      @BMoser-bv6kn 2 роки тому +13

      @@sosmooth13 In this context it's a reward system with some randomized reward rate, like say item drops in a Diablo game, but monetized. The prizes can be character units, art skins, weapons, skills, etc. (Unlike the video claims, the rates are displayed for all to see and they all have upper bounds on their cost. And if one can't do math nice people on the internet will tell you what it requires. For most games this is an outrageous $500+ if you buy the scam gems raw like a dum-dum.)
      For 98.5% of the player base, they spend $0 on these games and treat them like MMO's, to be played over months and years. Most of those who have self control only pay for the worthwhile deals, a $5 monthly sub, an annual ~$30 unit selector ticket.
      Where it becomes infamous are the whales, who are people to whom money means nothing to them, or addicts who get to a dark place where they only care about the game and ruin themselves financially.
      True buddhists realize the point is in not having things, as once you have something you can no longer want it. And if there's nothing left that you want, there's nothing left to look forward to or desire. And then, why, you might as well be dead, right?
      I'm not familiar with Fortnite, but I did hear it used to have lootboxes which are indeed gacha.
      And things can get really funky sometimes: Azur Lane is a gacha game all but technically: it's barely a speedbump, people will get all the units very quickly. The *true* monetization scheme of that game is selling skins. While the flipside are games that push the power ceiling up constantly like Final Fantasy Brave Exvius. And something like ArKnights avoids ever truly raising the power ceiling, but is more ponderous at the rate it gives top units. This kind of system can be implemented in very different ways on the practical level.
      What is interesting is they all stem from Mobage - old, simple browser games that sold cards of cute/cool characters/monsters or lewd girls. Which in turn is influenced by Magic The Gathering and Baseball Cards.
      Paper Magic The Gathering is so much worse than gacha games. But hardly anybody ever seems to notice.. $4 for one randomized cardboard rectangle and like 10 pieces of trash....

    • @TheOrian34
      @TheOrian34 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, people are too easy to forget and forgive the existing TCG/CCG models when they're worse gacha models, you can only pay with real money.@@BMoser-bv6kn

    • @jan_Eten
      @jan_Eten 8 місяців тому

      @@BMoser-bv6kn ðe gacha system in pj sekai works similarly to what you described for azur lane

  • @markkhairullah7475
    @markkhairullah7475 2 роки тому +90

    This video was really well done, I enjoyed it a lot

  • @gobe30
    @gobe30 10 місяців тому +16

    16:38 I honestly was expecting a cut to an ad right after that. Good for you for resisting the temptation.

    • @saycap
      @saycap 9 місяців тому +1

      Nope there was an ad right after he said that and looked deadpan at the camera. I thought it was funny though

    • @barrett206
      @barrett206 8 місяців тому

      there was it was kinda funny

  • @viteske
    @viteske 9 місяців тому +13

    I live in Belgium and it’s true that they banned loot boxes but worse is that when playing War Thunder I was introduced to a message from Gajin that loot boxes are indeed banned in Belgium BUT if I were to buy them I would only and only get the lowest rarity of an item… I mean…

    • @NoVamp3499
      @NoVamp3499 4 місяці тому

      haha lol. that's some awesome malicious compliance from War Thunder

  • @Gugauga7
    @Gugauga7 2 роки тому +119

    Man, keep making these great videos, I'm big fan of nakeyjakey, and you are one of the few youtubers that make content that make me feel something similar and as cool as his content, thank you!

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому +30

      Thank you! To even be compared to him is an honor.

  • @xdouche3608
    @xdouche3608 2 роки тому +40

    There are a lot of videos about this topic, but this is definitely among the best written and most informative I've seen so far.
    Great content!

  • @aadipie
    @aadipie 2 роки тому +58

    Hope you don't burn out man, getting a 30 min vid done in just 2 weeks is pretty wild and awesome. But definitely take longer if you ever need to

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому +30

      I appreciate the concern. It's not so much pushing myself to make the video in 2 weeks, but more that I could've always done this, I just procrastinated before. So don't worry, I'm not pushing myself into any burnout. Just working more regularly since my videos are getting some traction :)

  • @JaySee5
    @JaySee5 9 місяців тому +47

    Calling loot boxes and gatcha games gambling is too generous. They're just theft. In gambling you have a chance to win money. Loot boxes and gatcha give you absolutely *NOTHING!* The "items" are virtual and disappear when the game service ends. They're more like drugs than gambling. You get a thrill/high and awful lows.

    • @NoVamp3499
      @NoVamp3499 4 місяці тому

      > In gambling you have a chance to win money. Loot boxes and gatcha give you absolutely NOTHING!
      iirc that is exactly the reason lootboxes are legal, while gambling isn't. With gambling you have the chance of winning something of value. Because you can win nothing of value with lootboxes, they don´t legally count as gambling.

  • @alexsmout203
    @alexsmout203 2 роки тому +19

    That ad joke you made at 16:35 a 1000 iq joke right there.

  • @calebtheholyman545
    @calebtheholyman545 2 роки тому +16

    Holy shit dude your humor is top notch. Had to actually stifle a laugh a couple of times at work, especially when you very apparently set up for a Raid: Shadow Legends ad, only to move on without the ad. I almost cried it was so beautifully done.

  • @metalemon5487
    @metalemon5487 2 роки тому +14

    Loot boxes are like gambling, but you can't get money back

  • @GreatRaijin
    @GreatRaijin 2 роки тому +16

    This is a great video man, this channel is mini-ActMan, its only a matter of time before you get the recognition you deserve

  • @Iranex1
    @Iranex1 2 роки тому +13

    i fully expected to see millions of views on this video! was kinda surprised when i didnt. keep up the fantastic work, i couldnt agree with this video more! i wish every senator could see this

  • @isaiahwebb3743
    @isaiahwebb3743 2 роки тому +7

    Amazing video. I’ve been binging your content for about a day now, I’ve gone through most of your videos and this one is genuinely one of the best made and most entertaining I’ve ever seen on UA-cam. I’ve been hearing about anti-consumer practices in the video game industry for years, but I’ve never really understood the full story and scope of the issue until watching this. I will absolutely be joining your patreon, thank you so much for your hard work.

    • @Lextorias
      @Lextorias  2 роки тому

      thank you! I appreciate it

  • @calhowell6798
    @calhowell6798 2 роки тому +11

    Man your content is fantastic. Another great vid. Keep it up man big things are on the horizon.

  • @iMeta4
    @iMeta4 2 роки тому +4

    "Who would play ads in the middle of free content just to make a quick buck?" I love your humor sir.

  • @n00bJesus
    @n00bJesus 10 місяців тому +3

    DUUDE that ending is hands down THE BEST promo for a creator’s other vid I’ve ever seen. I’ve watched it already but hell yeah good shit man.

  • @chucheeness7817
    @chucheeness7817 2 роки тому +9

    I'm so glad that the games I'm interested in are either indie or just Japanese titles. Indie metroidvanias and roguelikes, and most JRPGs ship out complete and the early access open world survivals I play are worth the low price with the stuff they currently have in-game even before release. I eventually have tuned out the FOMO for the AAA titles, even the ones I once supported. I haven't paid anything after purchasing a game for years now, well, except for buying their OSTs.

  • @shayoko6
    @shayoko6 2 роки тому +6

    wonderful video. educational experiences like this are the kind of videos that should have a massive amount of views. people need to not just watch them but share them. so more people can be well informed!

  • @roberthesser6402
    @roberthesser6402 2 роки тому +2

    I spent this morning listening to your videos while doing the dishes. This is my third video and that docking joke got you a subscriber lmao. Very high quality my guy, keep it up!

  • @kipame
    @kipame 2 роки тому +12

    slightl correction at 24:53, Girls' Frontline isn't about school girls but Civilian Androids who were basically drafted, the game also doesn't use a gacha mechanic to obtain any of them, they're ALL free and easily obtainable within the game without a single money spent, despite being around 600 or them, they don't have gachas to get those characters, the gacha is only for skins to the dolls.

  • @MorganEdgy
    @MorganEdgy 11 місяців тому +5

    The CP bit sent me ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

  • @offlineable
    @offlineable 11 місяців тому +2

    Surprised not enough people mention Star Wars: Galaxy of Heroes. Contains pretty much all of the following scummy mechanics mentioned here, uses psychological tactics and addiction to keep you playing, is actually MUCH more expensive to play compared to pretty much every game listed here, they reach a new moral low with almost every update, and the icing on the cake: it's made by (you guessed it) EA.

  • @dfcx1
    @dfcx1 9 місяців тому +1

    My favorite monetization scheme is the one where I like the game so much I gift it to my friends as well.

  • @kidlimitless
    @kidlimitless 2 роки тому +2

    The bit at the end... Slowly turns to a pirate.. Hilarious!

  • @Spamster3212
    @Spamster3212 Рік тому +1

    Just watched this and your video about why horror games get less scary. Then a whole bunch of your other videos showed up in my recommended, and I can already tell I've got the next several hours of UA-cam content sorted. Keep it up :)

  • @ikec-pw5sb
    @ikec-pw5sb 2 роки тому +7

    Found this channel through the fanservice video. I feel like I've discovered a goldmine of UA-cam content

  • @mr.waffles8739
    @mr.waffles8739 10 місяців тому +2

    I loved that ending bit, your "video game piracy is good" video popping up, as you fade in a pirate hat and eye patch is gold
    Also liked the vid that part was just my favorite

  • @amcname8789
    @amcname8789 2 роки тому +14

    Halo 5's Warzone mode was literally an entire intricate gamemode designed around a lootbox system. Fun mode that was completely PTW. Since the "req" (short for requisition) packs had armor (which was simplified in its customization, likely for the MTs), weapon skins, and entire variants of the game's basic weapons with different scopes and attachments, alongside more powerful and varied weapons with insane effects of different rarities.There was a full-auto lmg with explosive rounds, over half a dozen variations of a single type of rocket launcher. Different flavors of one-hit-kill melee weapons. And much, *much* more. And this was all for a single mode, not including Forge, where anything can be spawned in, or modes with randomized weapons.
    It would be a pretty great showcase for some sort of addendum video to this one. And that's not even all! There was pre-existing content removed and drip-fed back for free by the oh-so-generous developers. Longtime fan-favorite modes were included in these free updates. Infection, one of Halo's most beloved multiplayer gametypes, came to Halo 5 half to almost a year after launch.
    Whoo, anyway, that's enough venting about Halo 5, and now unfortunately Infinite.

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 8 місяців тому

      Halo died with 4 thanks to modern greed crap

  • @medmoded7767
    @medmoded7767 2 роки тому +2

    Man i love your channel

  • @Gigakoopz
    @Gigakoopz 2 роки тому +2

    Loot boxes are microtransaction, specifically heavy microtransaction. Microtransaction isn't nessecarily loot boxes, but loot boxes is microtransaction.

  • @Belesprit656
    @Belesprit656 2 місяці тому +1

    I generally just get cheap games since I'm usually disappointed with the expensive games and it's a lot less risk. Not to say I play retro games or "bad" games, but I've had a lot of success with it.

  • @JuanRecomienda
    @JuanRecomienda 2 роки тому +5

    Fantastic Work! I discovered your channel a few weeks ago and you are really talented

  • @marcuslai6115
    @marcuslai6115 2 роки тому +7

    Great commentary. Wish more people would see this. Are you working for any gaming / journalism outlets? You really should.

  • @Snoozleberrilichious
    @Snoozleberrilichious 2 роки тому +2

    Overwatch 2 just came out this week and I used to hate loot boxes but the battle pass system that’s been added and the other systems of unlocking characters and getting skins is absolutely ridiculous. I spent so many years on OW1 collecting all of the cosmetics without spending any actual money and now that’s impossible to do

  • @markfreeman4727
    @markfreeman4727 Рік тому +2

    i find it mind boggling that a game can no longer just make money, it has to make ALL the money, and it must continue to do so forever, and the first dip in revenue, support will be pulled, the game will be abandoned and the studio running it will be shut down

  • @keybladebard4089
    @keybladebard4089 9 місяців тому +1

    Star Wars battlefront 2 2017 actually got rid of loot boxes before launch and ended up spending a lot of it’s post launch time reworking the game to not need them for progression, eventually ending up becoming a great game it’s just a shame that it didn’t start where it ended

  • @thomaslieven680
    @thomaslieven680 Рік тому +1

    One correction on the part about FIFA: You can play online without playing ultimate team, the mode where you have to buy boosters to get players (and afaik, those players can even expire). A few years ago, I was actively playing FIFA online, and there is an entire online league mode where you play with ordinary teams. I never got into FUT because it was convoluted as hell and I never got why one would pay to play in a mode with less balanced teams instead of just playing the normal online mode. Anything else you say about FUT is correct, but you can 100% avoid it and play FIFA online

  • @kanebilly7404
    @kanebilly7404 2 роки тому +1

    That's actually what I have been telling people, you got all the points correctly, so you earned yourself a sub from me. And the ending is very WELL done mate.

  • @pranjaltiwari1663
    @pranjaltiwari1663 2 роки тому +1

    Your channel is going to blow up big time. Nice Work.

  • @sam-ky9sj
    @sam-ky9sj 2 роки тому +2

    The video is amazing! I've been listening to your videos while I work and they're really fun AND interesting, the way you explain things is great.
    I do want to correct that, in Genshin Impact, you only have a 0.3% chance of getting your 5 star character of choice, the 0.6% is the chance you have to get a 5 star character. It's not super relevant but just shows how these games are just worse gambling with a different name.
    Keep up the good work, and congratulations on 33.3K subscribers!

  • @something-from-elsewhere
    @something-from-elsewhere 2 роки тому

    That bit at 16:29 really got me lol. I was legit surprised you didn't cut to a sponsor there

  • @chrismuscaroler
    @chrismuscaroler 2 роки тому +2

    hey, REALLY good video! just discovered your channel and i'm glad i did, your videos all have such great production value and it's always nice to see content from people who are willing to call out bigotry and predatory business practices while still valuing the merits of games as a whole. seems like your channel has really blown up quickly, i hope you're taking breaks from the comments and taking care of yourself! i've heard that content creator burnout can be pretty intense

  • @tumage8592
    @tumage8592 8 місяців тому

    20:47 great moment XD. I thought you made some cheesy "there isnt", but this is really good

  • @ProjektBurn
    @ProjektBurn 2 роки тому +1

    I can't believe I never discovered your channel until tonight but I'm glad I did. I've been binging a few vids and so far love it. I would like to add to this particular subject that if you ever come back to it (and haven't done so already), going into detail about how companies will utilize a hidden ELO system behind the scenes to increase a player's association with "spending money = better chances of winning" through Pavlovian tricks they DO NOT TELL THE PLAYER is built into the game, well, that itself and some of the dirtier tactics found, openly bragged about on other YT channels with recorded seminars from the devs who sell these backend products to companies like EA, make everything you mentioned here just the tip of an even darker iceberg. (run on sentence did run on, my bad)
    Anywho, stay awesome and I'm glad I found your channel. You're doing an awesome service with your video essays. Looking forward to catching up on more of them. :D

  • @jazzknh1105
    @jazzknh1105 Рік тому +1

    That was such a damn good takedown of these viciously predatory practices. Subscribed.

  • @dany_fg
    @dany_fg 2 роки тому +2

    15:06
    also in Pokémon go you can get the coins even without paying (placing Pokémon in gyms).
    they have now a different kind of microtransaction - events which cost real money (no real to fake currency transaction)

  • @sangera
    @sangera Рік тому +4

    In one of the Eidos Montreal Deus Ex games (I think it was Mankind Divided), you could literally buy skill points. The kicker was that it was a one time purchase meaning the skill points did not transfer over new saves.

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 8 місяців тому

      Even deus ex got ruined by modern greed its crazy

  • @whiskeybuddha1995
    @whiskeybuddha1995 7 місяців тому

    Old video so you may not see this but just found your channel today, and I’m already a fan. Love how well you articulate and lay out the information. Subscribed

  • @francolarich
    @francolarich 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!! Thank you for making it!

  • @HAZARDDEAD
    @HAZARDDEAD 2 роки тому +18

    To be fair, azur lane is one of the fairest gachas that i played. I have 250+ ships and almost all on max lvl. In the 3-4 years that i occasionally played it i have spend in total like 10€ and still have 10+ 2d animated skins and a shit ton of normal skins.

    • @troykv96
      @troykv96 11 місяців тому +4

      I sometimes wonder how much of the Azur Lane's revenue is actually from the gacha, and how much is from skins... I imagine gacha is still high overall, but considering how much hype there is for new skins, it makes me wonder how much % they're

    • @kostasdinos8982
      @kostasdinos8982 9 місяців тому

      lol

  • @krtar4199
    @krtar4199 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m a year late but I’d like to add a few things:
    First is FOMO (Fear of Missing Out), where companies release something that you need to pay for, otherwise it will forever be gone. I’m an avid dead by daylight player and yes I do hate myself, and they released Attack on Titan skins, they were in the game for a year, and each skin costs about $10-$15, and if you didn’t buy them in that one year, you couldn’t do it anymore, which gave the impression to buy them all now, as you can just wait for your next paycheck to spend maybe $10 that month on a skin and wait for the next check.
    Another thing, more of an example for some points you said, is how some games just do monetization worse than others. With Dead by Daylight, you have 3 currencies: blood points, earned exclusively through playing the game and cannot be bought with real money, used for leveling characters up, iridescent shards, earned by leveling up your account and cannot be bought with in game money, used to buy some cosmetics (some can only be bought with the next currency, Auric Cells) and new survivors and killers (except licensed characters, more on that in a minute), and Auric Cells, only available through micro transactions, used to buy their battle pass, any and all characters, and any and all skins. DBD feels like a subscription with new DLCs every 3 months, all costing $10, and then in the midpoints of these chapters, another $10 for the battle pass if you are into that, meaning $20 every 3 months or roughly $7 a month subscription. Again, you cannot buy licensed characters with free currency, which fair, they are licensed, but even to get all characters that you can with free currency, as well as earn every perk in the game through this weekly shrine (only uses iridescent shards), it takes up to 800 hours, and that’s using data from over a year ago, with all the chapters this could easily be over 1000 hours of playtime just to get everything that isn’t locked behind Auric Cells.
    For reference to another game, Rainbow Six Siege allows you to get any and all operators with Renown, a free in game currency. I started playing R6 about 3 months ago after dropping it 6 years ago, I had a little less than half the operators already, and I might have bought one of the deluxe editions while it was on sale for about $10, and I now am only missing 3 operators without paying a dime. I’m kind of just ranting but all these games have pros and cons in monetization, R6 has loot boxes that dbd doesn’t, but dbd has a far bigger grind just to be able to play certain characters, some of which have insanely strong perks that define the meta, basically making it pay to win. But again, all of these issues are circumvented by dropping literally x10 the game’s initial cost, and as they are live service games, that number is never dropping, you buy every chapter for $300 in dbd, guess what, 3 weeks from now we got a new killer and another $10 to drop
    Idk what my original point is but fuck modern gaming, the crippling addictions we all have

  • @medmoded7767
    @medmoded7767 2 роки тому +3

    Imagine your kids asking you to give them 700$ for a game

  • @tetrabelle
    @tetrabelle 10 місяців тому +2

    I love that this is a companion piece to the piracy video. Thanks for always putting out thoughtful and entertaining content.

  • @Ironclad404
    @Ironclad404 2 роки тому +5

    In defence of Genshin Impact (I play it and love it), the drop rate steadily increases all the way to 100% at 90 rolls. Players who think they will get their 5* in 10 wishes are truly f*cked. But players are reasonable and save ahead, can guarantee themselves whatever character is going to appear in the gacha. I prefer it.

    • @animae008
      @animae008 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes but there is still a 50/50 aspect so you can spend 180 wishes to get one copy of the character. At Least genshin is mostly single player so you won't spend thousands dollars to become the best player because you can't fight with other players. Spiral abyss is the biggest reason players want to have the strongest characters. Other than that people pull characters so they can look at their hot waifu/husbando

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 8 місяців тому

      That also a trick to make you spend thats what you dont mention idiot
      Yes you can have a guarrented char at some point but you will have to grind for long times just like every sibgle trash system they do now
      You really dont understand lol

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 8 місяців тому

      ​@@animae008exactly it is pure scam to make you frustated and then you pay and if you dont prepare to grind for hundreds of hours these dev are terrible

    • @WORTH-IT-MAN
      @WORTH-IT-MAN 2 місяці тому

      Gayshit impotent detected opinion rejected

  • @jacksfacts20
    @jacksfacts20 2 роки тому +2

    So far every video I’ve seen on your channel has been clever and super funny.

  • @dyykkarifin2454
    @dyykkarifin2454 7 місяців тому +1

    I have never bought any of these dumb monetization things in games and I never will. Anyone who does can blame themselves for the gaming industry going to shit

  • @noonespecial311
    @noonespecial311 2 роки тому +1

    Funnily enough, I've played gacha games not knowing that I played a gacha game. I just thought 'Oh its an anime game! I wonder what it's like.'

  • @Ash21
    @Ash21 2 роки тому +1

    While I overall agree with the video, I really wish people would stop saying battlefront's still P2W, it's not. It really undermines all the hard work and effort the devs at DICE put into making the game better after it's awful launch. They completely removed loot boxes and all elements of P2W, completely redid the progression system, added content the community had been asking for, and overall turned it into a really well liked game by most.
    I'm not saying that it shouldn't be used as an example of greedy monetization, cause 100% it was, all I'm saying is just that all the hard work DICE put into fixing it should be noticed.

  • @slumplxrd934
    @slumplxrd934 Рік тому +1

    Watched this whole video. Good video dude

  • @Kougeru
    @Kougeru 8 місяців тому

    4:00 basically all DLC is "on disc" now, and tons are Day 1. They take up precious space on our SSDs even if we don't pay for it. Forced on us.

  • @RuyVuusen
    @RuyVuusen 10 місяців тому +1

    I once bought like most of the LEGO® franchise's games for a bit over $100 in a Steam sale, including most of the (gameplay oriented) premium. That's like 20-30 games for the prize of one modern triple-A game with DLCs.

  • @markcooper4876
    @markcooper4876 10 місяців тому

    My favorite quote for the current state of game design in regards to wait times in mobile games:
    “Create a problem, sell the solution.”

  • @Stephen-Fox
    @Stephen-Fox Рік тому +1

    Fun trivia about Dungeon Keeper Mobile - the microtransactions were so bad EA was banned from calling it Free to Play in the UK by the advertisement standards authority, on account that beyond a certain point the game basically becomes unplayable if you don't pay.
    ...I wonder if that's why the 'free to start' term started to gain use, come to think of it...

  • @hannieblck
    @hannieblck 10 місяців тому +2

    just to clarify - you can earn characters through standard gameplay in a lot of gacha games, as, similar to the loot box situation, it provides you in game currency for playing
    and, unlike loot boxes, it is standard for gacha games to have ‘pity’, ie after a certain amount of pulls, you 100% are guaranteed to get the character you want, and what you COULD get and each percentage chance is clearly shown
    obviously loot boxes don’t show what you could get, and don’t, as far as i know, apply a pity system where at some point you will 100% get the specific item you want from the loot box

  • @majesticwizardcat
    @majesticwizardcat 2 роки тому +1

    Stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and just finished watching all your videos. I like your stuff, keep it up and thanks for the videos!

  • @pixiedust1383
    @pixiedust1383 3 місяці тому

    As someone who once played a Chinese-fantasy based gacha game once, it was the worst, most soul destroying thing I’d ever done. As I kept playing I’d get limited time pop ups of different items and packs and I’d buy them here and there because they helped me progress way faster and it “wasn’t that much” for a pack.
    Cue me a couple months later using the prestige points you earn for every £ spent to calculate how much money I’ve actually spent and I was sitting at roughly £2000.
    Playing that game was the biggest mistake of my life and I can’t stress enough how much people need to stay away from anything with a monetisation system anywhere close to gacha and loot boxes

  • @GreebusBleeb
    @GreebusBleeb 2 роки тому +5

    Ayo first looking forward to the pirate getup

  • @tommykruesofficial
    @tommykruesofficial 9 місяців тому

    Ughhh the inflation in Canada has been brutal on games, music gear and retro equipment...I hate it.

  • @leszekryniec7054
    @leszekryniec7054 8 місяців тому +1

    30:10 He's dressed as a pirate...

  • @tylerschenk4043
    @tylerschenk4043 10 місяців тому

    I love how you credit smaller channels that have great videos on the topics you talk about. I allows smaller creators to get much-deserved recognition, and more importantly, shows the great amounts of research that go into every episode. Thanks for your diligence, that's what makes the content so entertaining.

  • @DesiNR_M
    @DesiNR_M 2 роки тому +1

    Gotta repeat myself but these are Insanely catchy intros.

  • @OwlskiTV
    @OwlskiTV 2 роки тому

    I don't know how I got here, but the grade A humor (and being a fellow Canadian) has gotten you a sub.
    Keep it up, good sir.

  • @LurkingLarper
    @LurkingLarper 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent channel with super low subscriber count for some reason. I will join your sub club and wait for more quality content patiently.

  • @runethorsen8423
    @runethorsen8423 7 місяців тому

    new member here - the most deserved dollar in youtube history ! You are very welcome Sir.

  • @mrcantaberry
    @mrcantaberry 2 роки тому

    I’ve been watching all your videos the last few days and you rock!

  • @grapeape4589
    @grapeape4589 10 місяців тому +2

    Why is no one talking about the INCREDIBLE ad placement bit? Right after he said “ who would play an ad in the middle of free content” and ad was played! Genuinely genius.

  • @mr_indie_fan
    @mr_indie_fan 2 роки тому +2

    How to correctly monetize a game:
    1: make and sell a full game for a good price
    2: make dlc campaigns that are different to the base game and don't take away from the base campaign, price it based on the length, of course this only applies to games with campaigns. (Expansion packs as mentioned in the video work to on games without campaigns, and when I say not take away from the main campaign i mean not cutting parts of the game and then releasing it as dlc)
    3: make dlc character packs giving players a new character, weapon, etc for really cheap, this applies to games with campaigns.
    4: make a physical ultimate edition of the game with all dlc on disc/cartridge that costs more then the base game once your done making dlc for said game.
    5: make *innovative* sequels, spinoffs, etc that repeat the first point.
    6: rerelease/remake/remaster the game down the road on new consoles, perhaps with several games for a collection that has a cool game selection screen. (Or something beyond a screen like the sega genesis mega drive collection)

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan 2 роки тому +1

      The original Borderlands games and castle crashers pulled this off perfectly, there is no reason other games cant do the same if the developers/publishers really want to monetize it.

    • @mr_indie_fan
      @mr_indie_fan 2 роки тому +1

      How not to monetize a game:
      Horse armor, cosmetics purchased with real money, real gambling, nfts, pay to win gameplay, lootboxes, xbox gamepass, live service, battlepass, digital currency and any other form of microtransactions that i missed.

  • @lukas_koe
    @lukas_koe 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Thank you for that comprehensive explanation with the history included. Insightful.

  • @Dreamer-lr6bf
    @Dreamer-lr6bf 2 роки тому +1

    such a great video its a shame you arent much more popular

  • @petryksachko4102
    @petryksachko4102 2 роки тому +1

    This makes me sad.
    This made sad in the past.
    This will keep making me sad in the future.
    So much monetization, so little care . . .

  • @samuelkibunda6960
    @samuelkibunda6960 2 роки тому +2

    Another banger of a video!

  • @ag2023en
    @ag2023en 5 місяців тому

    For free-to-play games, maybe we could try using a "pay for base credits" system.
    It's like a lootbox, but instead of getting only one box per payment, the player buys "base credits", and these base credits are reusable everytime the player completes a difficult challenge.
    For example, if the player buys 5 base credits, the player will get 5 lootbox rolls as a reward everytime they complete a certain challenge.
    This might help reduce the problem of paid rewards making some players overpowered, since these paid rewards are still dependent on skill.
    It also means that the player can pay once and still receive lootbox benefits eternally, so their money isn't wasted even if they get a bad roll.

  • @leadingauctions8440
    @leadingauctions8440 2 роки тому +3

    I hate to say it, but Gamers deserve what they ask for.
    They refuse to stop paying for it, so they can not complain. Fallout76 alone has made them bank.

    • @rhael42
      @rhael42 10 місяців тому

      I don't pay for this drivel. never have. why should I suffer because the market is comprised of drooling Neanderthals with no appreciation for the medium who will buy whatever trash companies put in front of them?

  • @Minkyon
    @Minkyon 10 місяців тому

    The ad placement is immaculate

  • @SuperWaistcoat
    @SuperWaistcoat 10 місяців тому

    The ad bit fell real flat given there was an ad 1 minute prior to the joke

  • @azoulas1
    @azoulas1 Рік тому

    That ending f$#%ing killed me lmfao, great video dude.

  • @mb3318
    @mb3318 2 роки тому +4

    It's funny but after playing video games my entire life, all I really do now is play gacha games due to my job and lifestyle lol. The gambling aspect of those games are far more exciting to me than regular gameplay now.
    Those damn companies rewired my brain lol.
    Edit: I gave it some thought and I realized how much I actually appreciate mobile gacha games. They led to my first real college relationship and friends at my current job. They also provided a ton of entertainment during downtime while watching sports, in between workout sets, or in my other hobbies like golf.

  • @whensomethingcriesagain
    @whensomethingcriesagain 7 місяців тому

    One of my favorite things about old-school expansion packs is that some of the really great ones could even overshadow the original games they were attached to in one way or another. My go-to example is Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal, an expansion so influential that I've known people who straight up forgot the original game's story and remembered ToB as though it were the whole thing

  • @infernoanonymous
    @infernoanonymous 6 місяців тому

    I've been playing games for well over a decade and not spent much on them, the only place I did spend money in a game was for something permanent and a game I play regularly (a rank on a server in Minecraft), I've also played a good amount of gacha games, including one shown in the video, Destiny child, which has since been shut down about a year ago, but i still never had an issue with gacha games and never spent money on them. I've been f2p for the grand majority and it is pretty easy to do so especially in gacha games if you have self control, but then again that is exactly the aimed demographic of gacha games, people who dont have much self control or just have tons money to spare.