Blood Feuds and Gun Runners: Papua New Guinea's Tribal Battles

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  • @fludblud
    @fludblud 11 років тому +7

    People need to remember that this is tribal warfare, not industrialised warfare. Here they pick a place and time to fight and agree upon the rules if the battle is won or lost. Its basically their equivalent to a football game, except the injuries are far more severe.
    The problem with PNG right now is that warriors are basically 'cheating' by buying M16s to give them an unfair advantage, thus the death toll from these small conflicts is soaring far beyond what it would be with bows and arrows.

  • @Andreazor
    @Andreazor 15 років тому +6

    War never changes, nor the reasons behind them.
    We ain't better. Atleast these guys are honest about it and admit they just want revenge.

  • @leanright6870
    @leanright6870 17 років тому +5

    I'm a yank - grew up in the highlands of Ukarumpa, Papua New Guinea; don't have specific information re: this particular matter, but I know things are much worse than when I was there. I still love the country. I don't think we can understand the rational or culture from the outside, just as they don't understand ours. Some of the nicest people I've ever known are the nationals of PNG and I'd love to get back there with my kids and wife.

  • @jingwuman
    @jingwuman 17 років тому +6

    I remember watching that black and white footage in anthropology class. Huge battle. Interesting stuff, thanks!

  • @JWWhiteTX
    @JWWhiteTX 15 років тому +5

    I worked in PNG for a year. Tribal war is a way of life for these folks, and the government just lets them get it out of their systems.
    A lot of these people haven't made it all the way out of the trees yet. I know that is real un-PC to put it that way, but the best I can come up with. The further back in the Highlands you go, the worse it gets.
    People outside of the place don't realize how far behind the power curve a lot of these people are
    It's a shame, it's a beautiful country

  • @tokome
    @tokome 13 років тому +9

    i love the highlands.. and PS: they only fight when they have REALLY SERIOUS issues. besides that i love my culture; i love my highlands and I love my country

  • @maiholiaw4927
    @maiholiaw4927 2 роки тому +7

    In almost every tribal conflict everywhere in the world, drugs is always the main financier of illegal guns.
    Being a tribal myself who came from a region in India that had witness insurgencies and inter-tribal conflicts which had stopped only about 20 years ago, I can see and feel how destructive this is all. For 75 years from 1947-48 till about 2000-2003. The NE region had witness such internecine warfare. Armed tribal groups are fighting with everybody and everybody was fighting with India. Thousands of innocent lives were lost accompanied by social and economic destruction that was perpetrated by illegal trade on drugs and guns.
    No, the fightings were not caused because of lack of education or because of religion; North East Indian states literacy rate is higher than most Indian states, yet fighting occur because of centuries old tribal feuds or because of economics where the control of resources and power over others override religious and education lines. Ethnic and racial flames were ignited, where divisions were made between the "sons of the soil" and the "refugees" Age old land disputes were revived and established boundary lines were ignored.
    Fights occured on tribal and ethnic lines even though rather than on religious beliefs; Christians of one tribe or community against Christians of another tribe or community Hindus of one community vs Hindus of another community , Animists of one tribe vs Animist of another tribe.
    Thankfully today there is not much of such things, except very sparse or sporadic incidents at times. And I do hope that good sense will prevail on the people of PNG and will learn to coexists in peace.

  • @xredb
    @xredb 15 років тому +6

    may i ask a question
    why do ppl in PNG kill each other like this?
    its very sad to me.....i hope one day all the ppl in PNG will all come together peacefully and live in happiness
    Fijians lived like this in the olden days....but we put aside our differences and thats why its a peaceful nation today
    i hope all can do the same

  • @aotoby1
    @aotoby1 14 років тому +3

    This tribal fights only happen in the Highlands areas, but the coastal areas are well civilized and live in modern lifestyle, dont comment negetive thoughts about the whole of Papua New Guinea if you dont have any idea wat u talking about, i live in PNG on the coastal area where there's alot of tourist and they regard PNG as a wonderful place. PEACE OWT TO ALL.

  • @kennylondon123
    @kennylondon123 13 років тому +3

    I don't understand how these people could fight and fight over decades ( if I'm correct) Here we are in the 21st century yet I feel that these of our brothers still couldn't find it in their hearts to forgive and work together as one whole community!! THIS IS VERY SAD !! I blame their tradition, culture and ways of living, all these have really currupted them!! I.M.O I feel that western culture needs to intervene and deliberate them !!

    • @TedH71
      @TedH71 Рік тому

      That country has over 800 languages and deep valleys/mountains which isolates people and that's what causes them to fight each other because of the tribal distrust of each other.

  • @Tavoous
    @Tavoous 16 років тому +6

    I lived in PNG during 1 year (June 2007 to June 2008). Still visiting PNG every month. Very interesting place despite its less favorable reputation and to certain extent its violent traditions and culture. My colleagues and I never faced any major incident, though.

  • @danmeadowsmusic
    @danmeadowsmusic 14 років тому +1

    @Vanessa901 How the hell did you afford a flight when you have not graduated high school?

  • @rwr3134
    @rwr3134 16 років тому +1

    You make it sound like ALL of them there don't know God coz most of them there are soo passionate about their relationship and love for God - its great sharing that with them:) peace.

  • @miriam.uwakerua8344
    @miriam.uwakerua8344 4 роки тому +1

    Oh Emmanuel my brother.I like your English.And good translate.

  • @GB3770
    @GB3770 11 років тому

    You speak an unpopular truth - but truth none the less - well done.

  • @jozsefkacsa
    @jozsefkacsa 11 років тому +4

    Freeze it at 5:43 !! Aaaaahhhhhhhh That is sooooo sweet Daddy taking his yrs old boy to Battle with him on "Fight Day".Now that's how a Father should spend quality time with his boy!!!

  • @zippybomb
    @zippybomb 12 років тому +2

    Yes, guns are an extremely destructive force compared to spears and do much more damage. Do think wars would kill this many people today if people used hunting spears and arrows?

  • @nassauguy48
    @nassauguy48 11 років тому +1

    Why are they showing scenes from the Los Angeles riots here?

  • @TheHulihornbill
    @TheHulihornbill 10 років тому +5

    Tribal fighting in new Guinea Highlands is active when there is lack of Government presence and law and order authorities has less power to solve the problems. Vast majority of
    highlands leaders are so corrupted and they are not putting heads together to lead people in peace process and restoring government services. Therefore, local natives resort to tribal law as to protect their interest. PNG Government and NG highlands leaders has role to deliver Government services and actively enforce law and order to all entire Highlands region..

    • @danroley7850
      @danroley7850 5 років тому

      cannibalism ... fresh red ! meat..true.

    • @malicktjmatiabeyuwi7587
      @malicktjmatiabeyuwi7587 4 роки тому

      @@danroley7850 cannibalism took place in Europe first then spread to all nations as a curse from above

  • @Johnson3182
    @Johnson3182 13 років тому +1

    This video is no exception, people (media) always focus on the negative impression to paint a bad image which is not a reality in the daily lives of the many Papua New Guineans. While I do agree tribal fights do exist in some localities, this is always one of event...If there was any place I would prefer to live, thats Papua New Guinea, where true love is evident among the innocent majority pacific islanders!

  • @sethaus75
    @sethaus75 13 років тому +1

    It's amazing that these people are the most genetically distant from black Africans. They are genetically closer to a Japanese or a blonde Swede than they are to a black Nigerian.
    As such, race is a social construct.

  • @Andreazor
    @Andreazor 15 років тому

    The sound is very out of sync.

  • @jeffbrak
    @jeffbrak 13 років тому

    The audio and video is out of sync.

  • @gailzawacki
    @gailzawacki 11 років тому +1

    no that's wrong. archeological studies have shown that a higher percentage of young men die in tribal warfare than in industrialized warfare.

  • @islandwarrior16
    @islandwarrior16 16 років тому +1

    Im Torres Strait Islander and i know the illeagal trade very well...Ganja comes down from the highlands, then taken by boat down to Torres Strait. in Torres Strait, it's exchanged for weapons. It's nothing new. What is new is the increasing amount of people smuggling going on across the border. Papuans who live along this southern coastline have long had traditional links with the people of Torres Strait in Australia, and those across the border in Papua.

  • @timothykamberan7601
    @timothykamberan7601 8 років тому +2

    Countries who were born some hundred years ago still facing problems of all kinds, we are new born country, no matter what the foreign media and foreign people say don't give a dam on them. This our country yumi go PNG.

  • @Salvus967
    @Salvus967 16 років тому +1

    yeah whats the story there? i am just curious but i have no idea why people in papua new guinea look like people from africa. when did they migrate over there, and why to that eastern part of the island?

  • @Rasmusorum
    @Rasmusorum 14 років тому

    @htia075 What are you talking about? This video was shot in 2007.

  • @MariusThePaladin
    @MariusThePaladin 12 років тому +2

    Although it sounds fun to have a traditional annual war orsomething liek that, this is fucked up. They should've turned it in to traditional cultural fighting sport competition or something like that.

  • @justinhasuma3643
    @justinhasuma3643 Рік тому

    Very useful document.

  • @goodshipkaraboudjan
    @goodshipkaraboudjan 14 років тому +1

    No such thing as "illegal" rifles in PNG. If you want a SLR, M16, G3 you just go ask a cop or someone who knows one in Mt Hagen. It is stupidly easy.

  • @sethaus75
    @sethaus75 13 років тому +3

    @hatloverxxx
    From wiki:
    The largest genetic distance between any two continents is between Africa and Oceania at 0.2470. Based on physical appearance this may be counterintuitive, since Indigenous Australians and New Guineans resemble Africans with dark skin and sometimes frizzy hair.
    I think you bought that degree you claim you have.

  • @KVIKFALD
    @KVIKFALD 12 років тому

    who are the tribe at the beginning of the video?

  • @tariqziyad8062
    @tariqziyad8062 17 років тому +1

    the government dosen't want too stop it

  • @cipslim
    @cipslim 14 років тому +1

    . I think it is in their best interest to carry war trough some type of aggressive sport like rugby.

  • @1000gohead
    @1000gohead 13 років тому

    @TiminPhoenix When you say "before", you're talking about before western contact? Before contact you and I both can't give a proximate status on their lifespan
    What does having a computer, electricity, a full belly, and not suffering from Malaria have to do with Western culture? And you ask why should others have that? Why does America send millions of dollars to Israel, but don't lend a helping hand to it's own American citizens, Haiti, or Brazil?

  • @johnram2870
    @johnram2870 12 років тому +1

    I don't know where you got your information from. What is now Papua New Guinea was armed because of the Japanese invasion, not Christion missionaries. Even most of the (small number) of Australian defense forces there were did not have guns when the Japanese first invaded. Widespread armament happened because of the arms left behind as a result of thousands of dead soldiers from the invasion, not Christian missionaries.
    Also Indonesia is a major supplier of PNG arms.

  • @twikiriwhi
    @twikiriwhi 15 років тому +1

    The savage at 10 38 is wearing a trendy Kiwi shirt!

  • @jarrodsewell7658
    @jarrodsewell7658 11 років тому +2

    I LOVE PNG

  • @gatheringleaves
    @gatheringleaves 15 років тому

    i don't get it
    what do you mean?

  • @Shodanski1980
    @Shodanski1980 11 років тому +6

    I love these people mentality !!! Bring this to the west

    • @AG-xc9yh
      @AG-xc9yh 2 роки тому +3

      Okay good idea lol 😂

  • @gatheringleaves
    @gatheringleaves 15 років тому

    Cool, I heard Papua New Guinea is very wild, even today, is that true?

  • @hyropath
    @hyropath 14 років тому

    Wise words. Thank you for knowing.

  • @joshmc6
    @joshmc6 16 років тому

    i have no clue what you mean...

  • @mangincmaki92
    @mangincmaki92 13 років тому +1

    @kaptenlemper What?? Prove it??

  • @meeker128
    @meeker128 12 років тому +1

    I wonder if it isn't mostly for show, and that killing each other is not the true goal, because then the deaths would have to be avenged. I think they fight and then give women and pigs to the ones they have wronged. I think actually killing your enemy would be a mistake in this culture and they take precautions to avoid warranting true revenge. I'm basing this only on having seen Ongka's Big Moka, and this video... it's just a theory.

  • @digitalgear
    @digitalgear 14 років тому

    The M16 there probably cheaper than iphone4 (without contract). :P

  • @momok35
    @momok35 14 років тому

    @aldomovielovers jika yang kamu katakan malaysia juga bagia dari mereka...sudah tentu indonesia juga bagian dari malaysia dan sebaliknya...betul?jika betul sosio budaya juga dari rumpun sama..betul?jadi mengapa masih ada pertikaian?

  • @calebbai1733
    @calebbai1733 11 років тому +1

    Hey i am from png and now the trible war is still going

    • @teddybruscie
      @teddybruscie 11 років тому

      Is it really all over a woman. I find it really hard to believe all of this over a woman. Ok it might have started that way but the continuation of it has to be more than just the origins of it and revenge. The drug trade has to be the main reason now.

    • @sekaijin7299
      @sekaijin7299 10 років тому

      teddybruscie I wouldn't be so sure. Family means absolutely everything to Papua New Guineans. They will bleed for their family and friends no matter the reason. This causes these stupidly long conflicts. They don't forgive, and they don't forget, unfortunately.

    • @teddybruscie
      @teddybruscie 10 років тому

      SekaiJin They don't need to do either. Just stop fighting.

    • @giovannimannelli2158
      @giovannimannelli2158 5 років тому

      and now?

    • @Mikcrynouse
      @Mikcrynouse 8 місяців тому

      Any updates brother

  • @jyothiprakashhk
    @jyothiprakashhk 14 років тому

    whole world is running behind, fight for 3 things... WEALTH, WOMEN, LAND....if people stop this we will have very peaceful and beautiful world....

  • @zippybomb
    @zippybomb 12 років тому

    They're not wasting time with old weapons, they still have to track and hunt the animals just as long they just have a better shot at it when they find it.

  • @takarabox6971
    @takarabox6971 4 роки тому +2

    Bows are kept in Museums nower days in PNG 😜😜

  • @danroley7850
    @danroley7850 5 років тому +1

    Cannibals. Yes. Fkng Cannibals.

  • @caloymadregallus1476
    @caloymadregallus1476 11 років тому

    galing ako doon noong 2010 dilikado taga doon lalo na kong gabi ka lomabas sabayan nila.

  • @NovaGypsy
    @NovaGypsy 11 років тому

    .. at the moment.. they only say that because they're not familiar with the technology that's involved in making guns.. if they had their own I'm sure they would be more than happy.

  • @deceiver123m
    @deceiver123m 14 років тому

    @owlandtree yeah well... im too scared to face things i dont yet understand...

  • @dominicmark1337
    @dominicmark1337 2 роки тому

    Bad Days in Nebilyer llg..

  • @johnram2870
    @johnram2870 12 років тому

    Widespread guns didn't come until after the Japanese invasion and the Australian response. If you think Imperial Japanese occupiers protected the indigineous cultures, and were afraid of guns and civilization, then you are obviuosly deluded from samurai movies or something. And you also ignoring the fact that the majority of guns on the street come from the PNG government itself and a significant amount come from Indonesia show that you have an ax to grind against Europeans and Christianity.

  • @DJ53151
    @DJ53151 13 років тому +2

    im from PNG :D but im not living in PNG :(

  • @MariusThePaladin
    @MariusThePaladin 12 років тому +1

    And can words really settled anything ?
    If I took something from you that you need for living and refused to give you back that thing, no matter what, what will you do ?
    Call a police ? And what does the police going to do if I refused to give in ? They're going to use force, and they going to fight me.
    In the end, it's violence.
    Moreover, what if it's not me taking things from you, but my country taking things from your contry ? What police can settle this ?
    Humans are animal,my friend.

  • @hmartinspliff
    @hmartinspliff 11 років тому

    The police don't fight anymore. I asked one of them if they wanted to fight me but I ended up getting tasered and convulsing on the floor, so I don't bother now.

  • @XCILE625
    @XCILE625 12 років тому

    No tribal society can survive with high authority and the government.

  • @MrAndrum11
    @MrAndrum11 13 років тому +1

    @1000gohead how can you hate all Europeans? Some nations never ever enter wars or nothing like that

  • @fmishaan1
    @fmishaan1 12 років тому +1

    i will go there with everything from glass 2 mobile phones and declare myself their lord XD

  • @bloodynachos
    @bloodynachos 13 років тому

    @Juggernautishere its not the religion, its the people who interpret it the wrong way

  • @heyheybp
    @heyheybp 11 років тому

    putting aside the fact that they're fighting for a very stupid reason, they've been fighting for so many years. It has never occurred to anyone of them to fight in a more organized way?

  • @aldomovielovers
    @aldomovielovers 14 років тому +1

    @momok35 yes and we proud :D orang2 ini moyang kami

  • @ashraf26100
    @ashraf26100 13 років тому

    @diablojorgen any time u can come to penang n call me.

  • @islandwarrior16
    @islandwarrior16 14 років тому +1

    wtf!? little boys in the battlefields with the men

  • @bigmac7077
    @bigmac7077 3 роки тому

    It’s like watching a bunch of kids with Adhd play Nerf

  • @Salvus967
    @Salvus967 16 років тому

    man, don't get mad... i just have no idea, i'm sorry if my questions are insulting to people, but i don't REALLY care that much cus people should get over it. if someone from the otherside of the world asked me a question about my skin or something i wouldn't get all offended by it. and yeah i do see the differences, i still have no idea why there are are so many different groups of different looking people on one island, i'm curious why... there is nothing wrong with asking.

  • @macchexx1007
    @macchexx1007 8 років тому +1

    Wagawagawaga

  • @M-o-o-n-d-u-s-t-ultra
    @M-o-o-n-d-u-s-t-ultra 11 років тому

    The second part of your post contradicts the first part. If the contractual terms of their conflicts were purely based on morality, then no one would be trying to cheat. BTW, Industrialized warfare also has rules.

  • @fukraadmi
    @fukraadmi 16 років тому

    paradise lost

  • @baddoggie101
    @baddoggie101 12 років тому

    You need to read more history. Try to name one war that was justified and really settled anything.

  • @lauridspman
    @lauridspman 13 років тому +1

    @serzh123aaa This is one video....dude..i come from papua new guinea i go there every year. i think i would know if it is civilised or not.

  • @knowthetruth1492
    @knowthetruth1492 13 років тому

    So who here was able to choose where they were born? Anyone? I rest my case.

  • @mramirez5194
    @mramirez5194 11 років тому

    Scary!!!...

  • @SEECH7cornishgrimemovement
    @SEECH7cornishgrimemovement 14 років тому

    and you should fire your video editor hes terrible at lip syncing

  • @goodshipkaraboudjan
    @goodshipkaraboudjan 14 років тому

    Where? Missionarys are pulling out more then anything and their work is a drop in the ocean. Most highlanders don't bother deluding themselves either - frankly over there whether it be expat or local, no one pays attention to the missionarys.

  • @Tubebacca
    @Tubebacca 16 років тому

    why the Indonesian? This is PNG not west-papua a land that is occupied by Indonesia.

  • @ResolvedGrayness
    @ResolvedGrayness 11 років тому

    he also says straight after that he buys them for the young men

  • @SEECH7cornishgrimemovement
    @SEECH7cornishgrimemovement 14 років тому +2

    i would have smoked all that weed

    • @reddog5031
      @reddog5031 3 роки тому

      Probably a gut stone not a cruisy head stone.

  • @crypter27
    @crypter27 11 років тому

    It depends on the bow!

    • @takarabox6971
      @takarabox6971 4 роки тому

      Bows are kept in Museums nower days in PNG

    • @crypter27
      @crypter27 4 роки тому

      @@takarabox6971 cool

  • @eazydee415
    @eazydee415 15 років тому

    yea right

  • @MariusThePaladin
    @MariusThePaladin 12 років тому

    What you said is really offensive.
    Before then guns were introduced they used to live, fight, and survive like animals. They really did live with the nature and depends their life on nature. We are the wrong one here. Their way of living was the correct way. What we call civilization or Human's evolution is in fact, the path to doom. And we are also the one who forced this to all tribal people.
    Read Ismael: The Wandering Spirit.

  • @deceiver123m
    @deceiver123m 14 років тому

    Seems like a ripe market for arms and munitions. Think PROFIT :)

  • @Tubebacca
    @Tubebacca 16 років тому

    It`s more the other way around. gangs are like copying tribal wars.

  • @kaptenlemper
    @kaptenlemper 14 років тому

    Infinity Ward to release Pre-Modern Warfare, based on PNG tribal warfare.

  • @soonkwee1968
    @soonkwee1968 17 років тому

    Fighting and conflict is part of the culture of PNG. Just like in Africa, South America and parts of Asia. I'm from Singapore, NO.....You will never see anything like that over here. Guess Singapore is too peaceful and lack of excitement? Well....I think it is.

  • @kettlebabii
    @kettlebabii 13 років тому +6

    I love my country :) Even though its abit crazy hahah!

  • @joshmc6
    @joshmc6 17 років тому +1

    Wow whos down for bringing theses people Christ?

  • @sethaus75
    @sethaus75 13 років тому

    @hatloverxxx And some South Asians are "blacker." So what? Papuans are genetically closer to white Europeans than they are to black Africans. That is a biological and scientific fact. It just goes to prove that the concept of race is indeed a societal construct with hardly any genetic or biological basis whatsoever.

  • @79pensacola
    @79pensacola 11 років тому

    Let's face it, these people aren't exactly considered that bright.

  • @southcanada6002
    @southcanada6002 16 років тому

    okay

  • @zippybomb
    @zippybomb 12 років тому

    When have guns helped them at all? There are almost no large or medium game animals and shooting a tree kangaroo with an AK-47 is going to take of most of its meat.

  • @LesterBrunt
    @LesterBrunt 12 років тому

    LOL, you are seriously arguing that guns didn't help them? Even if gun takes more meat of the animal then other weapons Gun > Spears and stones. If you can save hours of hunting and running that that 100G meat you might have shot off is less then you would have wasted with old hunting techniques.

  • @c0mm0ns3nc3
    @c0mm0ns3nc3 11 років тому

    Tell that to the American revolutionaries, The Vietnamese, the Taliban, and the CIA, etc... who never played by your industrial rules. Let's face it where there is conflict there will always be someone profiting off the conflict. follow the money trail and you will fine the people who defy the rules of conflict.

  • @LesterBrunt
    @LesterBrunt 13 років тому

    @juanchissi but those guns have also brought so much good to those people, you know how much easier guns made their lives? Look I agree that its very sad and wrong to mess with these people but the reality is we are more advanced in certain aspects, its inevitable that these 2 worlds come together, the new world must replace the old world, that is the rule of nature.

  • @gatheringleaves
    @gatheringleaves 15 років тому

    Yeah, it sometimes is nice when you're neither black or white but somewhere in between like me