CRAZY PRICES ON RANGE ROVERS ... SO WHY AM I NOT BUYING ONE?
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
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In this video I talk through the recent price changes on the used car market. Range Rovers have dropped significantly as have EV’a such as the Porsche Taycan.
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amazes me how the reliabilty problems are still so bad and they are nothing but money pits when you own one
When they work they are brilliant but as you say reliability is an issue
It amazes me too. That people will buy a car that is very unreliable with a very high chance of theft, when they could for about half the price buy a competitor's vehicle. I know the Range Rover will be the nicer car to drive, but is it twice as good as the competition??
Amazing deals for those who don't need car insurance.
Great video showing the enormous depreciation the JLR products have faced due to various issues.I don’t see anything getting better with JLR, would still avoid even if the prices have tanked. Insurance is still an ongoing issue and there’s no guarantee that will change anytime soon.
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Owned a Land Rover a few years back, it was the worst car I ever owned. It had to go back to the dealership on a monthly basis for warranty issues, the last straw was when it broke down on me in France and was without it for 10 days. Once it had been repaired and I got back to the UK it was gone, I would never ever buy another one.
Sorry to hear this. What did you replace it with?
@@thedoctorsgarage always had Japanese after that, they are pretty much bombproof never had a single issue with any of them. The one exception was a Citroen that I tried which was a great car, way better than Land Rover.
Can you please explain how to set up AT price tracker I have looked everywhere
What do you think about the disco5 commercial, would you have the d300 mhev. Or the tdv6 3ltr.?.
Do you have to sign into your Auto trader account for this to appear? I've downloaded the link without any success.
I had just about worked out the 'man maths' to replace our 2016 D4 with a brand new Range Rover Vogue SE 4.4 which were about £93K basic in 2019 if I remember correctly. Then they came out with the new model, put the price way over £100K and I just didn't like the way they looked, and I went totally went off them. In my opinion the last shape was still very smart and probably the pinnacle in RR design. Did they need to change it? I don't think so. And the price increase? So I will keep our 2016 D4 and pay the LR monthly warranty, it's ULEZ exempt and I still love it to bits👍. I payed £47K new back in 2016 which was quite a big chunk for me and now there is nothing in LR range I would swap it for.
Having had a Discovery 4, I would love another Land Rover car - but I got rid of mine after 18 months due to unresolved problems, so I won't be buying another until they pick up on the reliability issues! 😢
I have had several Land Rovers since 2004 when I bought my Discovery 2. It was a 1998 one of the first demonstrators, when it ran it was brilliant great car. I had 3 issues with it all expensive for that time. I have also had 3 defenders they were much more reliable than the discovery and cheaper and much easier to fix, except the rust issues, these were no too bad on the 110 but had to replace the chassis on the 90 , but got most of my money back when I sold it after 4 years. I now have an L322 apart from the window wiper motor/control module I have only had ware and tare issues which since it had done 68K miles when I acquired it and now on 92K had needed quite a lot. I also tow with it 50% of the time, a 27ft 2 ton caravan and a 2.5 ton trailer with comp car on. So after 4 years of ownership I can say the L322 has been the most reliable. It was a 90K car new so it have 90K car parts costs and running costs, most folks think that an old "90K" car acquired for 15K at 8 - 10 years old will be cheap to run it is not.
Reliably unreliable ..... 😂👌
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My mates parents are selling theirs after getting a renewal quote of 5 grand. Previous year was only £1600. Cheapest quote this year £3800. They may be cheap at the moment but buyer beware because there’s a reason why people are off loading them. If you live in London the insurance costs are crazy.
Insurance premiums on Range Rovers and Discoveries have doubled in the last 12 months due to a huge increase in theft.
Ironically Range Rovers never break down just after being car jacked
😂 always think that too- never break down with the thieves
Great video. Dealers are gonna hate you but hayho. What’s the new project now the Td5 has gone?
Not sure yet… maybe something a bit more modern but will see in the new year
Love the video and your honesty and if Range Rover are not very helpful to you and they know you are an influencer what chance would I have in getting a Range Rover fixed if it breaks
I recently bought a GR86 and love it but those Porsches look great value if you want to dip your toe into electric.
Happy Christmas to all or just happy holidays
Happy New Year and thanks for watching. 🙏
Whether you're thinking of buying, or thinking of selling a JLR product, I'd just do nothing for now and wait to see what happens over the next couple or three months. A spokesman for JLR has responded to a letter from Challenge The Road channel, stating that they're reintroducing their own insurance and arranging recalls to beef up security. It's worth giving that a chance at least.
We're still on the down side of the curve, who knows where the bottom is going to be.....😂
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JLR may have killed their brand. Terrible reliability, parts availability and service levels, but most of all they just do not care about their customers. In particular they have left many of their customers stranded with the problematic SD4 2.0 engines! Their s!strategy seems to be let’s build new cars and leave our history behind us….but it has now caught up with them. It will take at least a decade for them to course correct!
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3 yr old Second hand taycan looks nice. BUT when will the battery pack need replacing ??? Circa £55k. You need to factor that cost in and how that affects resale for you in a couple of years if you don’t replace it
Very true- did not know they were £55k!
@@thedoctorsgarage well according to a Google search it throws up plenty threads £40 to £60k. Personally I’m not convinced at all yet on EVs wether that be hybrid or full electric I’m sticking with my analog 12 year old puma 90 ! 😁
Is there a US version of this type of site? Of course i will google but i was just curious if any viewers were based in the US and looking for something similar.
Thats great content and some very good advice. When it comes to JLR they just have their priorities wrong. They seem to prioritise bringing out new models and pricy upgrades of existing ones over concentrating on the reliability and spares supply. Its not a new problem although matters have seriously esculated in the last 18 Months. There is no excuse acceptable for how clients are being treated. There is no doubt JLR make some very desirable models that have been over priced and hopefully the market is now teaching them a belated lesson.
One has to feel sorry for people like yourself who have been so badly let down. Lets hope management get a grip and restore faith in what they make and represent the once great name LANDROVER even if JLR dont want to call them that.
Thanks Philip- I really want LR to get it together as I love their products but it’s gone so far now with my D5
had my 2019 D5 HSE Luxury for a year today. It spent 3 months at the dealership and I have tried to hand it back but Marshalls and Santander wont play ball. Totally outrageous. I cannot wait until the finance is in a position that I can give it back to them. We have 2 other LR's in our house hold and based on the franchised dealership + LR attitude to customers, it is unlikely I will buy another. Shame as I have had them for 20+ years
I am in the same boat. I just can’t face taking another on
You should consider buying a very clean L322. It has key entry and starting, very comfortable and harder to nick unlike the newer models. Also in my opinion the last Range Rover that looks like a Land Rover. Everything after the L322 looks rounded and more like a large sports car rather than a Land Rover. I still drive a P38 every day that I've owned for 12 years now and couldn't ever part with it. Super comfortable, Simple to maintain yourself, and with preventative maintenance extremely reliable. The old Land Rovers are far superior to the new ones, but that's just my opinion. Good luck in your search for your next LR or something else 👍 Enjoying your Channel 👍
It's not just JLR products it's across the board on vehicles. Dealers overheads are huge now and they need to buy in cars at rock bottom prices and sell them at top dollar money just to cover their costs and make a profit, that prices are dropping on car's on forecourts is irrelevant because the price of your trade in vehicle drops the same so customers don't gain anything.
Where are u from? Here 2015 RangeRovers 4.4 Autobiographies are still around 60k dollars. I bought myself a Touareg instead and my wife got a 2016 RR Sport Autobiography Dynamic. I must say the Touareg is higher quality but im still looking for a l405 or mercedes gls
UK 🇬🇧 I think there has been a drop in price here due to high insurance cost and increase in theft
On my 4th Range rover , i love them , got burnt once but rhe other 3 have been great
What is a lanrover?
What do you think you will buy to replace the Discovery 5.....am in same boat. 5 months in the garage awaiting parts. Do like the D300 engine.......
It’s a daily question to myself! Ideally for what it’s now worth id rather them fix mine and get it back in good working order. It’s done 60k miles so still has some left in the tank…I think?
What part is yours waiting for?
@@thedoctorsgarage transfer case module and coolant pipe. Mines 2lt with 76k miles has had new ZF gearbox. Warranty provided me with D300 Defender 110 certainly feels more powerful
@jampot20000 yeah I had a d300 disco and it was nice. Unfortunately I’m in a KIA Sportage!
Always a reason not to buy a Range Rover - but trust me just do it and you won’t regret it. Arguably the best drive in the world. We’re all here for a good time, not a long time! One life live it right!
I am a LR fan have a 2016 Defender and 2014 Freelander 2 the missus had a 21 plate Evoque that she sold last year. With LR reliability and insurance issues the Landrover we love have a rocky future
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I am so close to buying a family members LR DISCO SPORT 2018 landmark 50k miles... hearts saying get it, my heads saying stay clear and get a Tiguan
I have search everywhere for something positive, everyone hates land rovers but I see them a lot? Take the risk or be sensible? ( The missus is about give birth too)
turbos just gone, is that a sign the chains next? also read about dpf issues. the turbos getting replace as we speak if I pay for the chain to be upgraded then that should be it with the main common faults? not bothered about the screen freezing or the odd squeak here and there.
cheers
Impossible to insure in some places
Insurance.........is the killer and the reliability and part supply.......only buy one with warranty. Good video
Appreciate that thanks!
On a £50k LR, insurance is 10 to 20 per cent of its value ..... 😂
What nonsense.
its not just electric land rovers that loose value. it is assumed that any car on lease (which tend to be well looked after) will be worth just 40% of the original selling price within 3 years, and the first year is when the car looses the most value.
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Can anyone tell me how to get the Price checker? I’ve been on Autotrader and cannot find a link anywhere.
I’ve left a link in the description of this video 🙏🏼
I’ve added it to my desktop but I still can’t see an icon anywhere,I’ll have a look at it later. Cheers🎉
Got to be on google chrome if that helps
The starting prices are ridiculous great to see them collapse long may it continue.
Yes great research, thanks. This is mere market reflecting the angst of buyers now dealing with new electronics and maybe the prices should fall another 50%. While robot assembly is better the electronics complexity is near ridiculous where e.g. the new Discovery auto shuts down when doors are opened too often during Ign Off. This is a normal camping overnight sequence but your Off-Road vehicle won't start after a while. There's no easy reset for owners so tow to dealer. Any warranty issues owners find themselves on an India call centre -> Tata now owns J-RR and likely doing the best quality control ever but you can buy Mahindra for a fraction of price and get the same dealer experience. I ask what is a J-RR really? It's very cool looks wrapped in frustration
This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. I have noticed battery issues before when I’ve had the doors open too long, I wonder if this is the reason!
People are nicking because dont have money due to the cost for living crisis? Range Rover expensive? £60,000 still expensive for people who cant afford it
Understand the reticence in buying another Land Rover. I’m what I think would view as an ideal insurance client. However asked Land Rover insurance for a quote on my Discovery Sport and was told they couldn’t offer me insurance at this time. If they can’t insure their own vehicles how do they expect to sell new cars.
They wouldn’t quote me either. I’m 40, with no claims and I live in the middle of nowhere.
I’m interested to see how this in brand insurance product goes
@@CT-oe1ug NFU insurance would love your business and give a very competitive price. They have fairly local offices.
@@hedydd2 Cheers Huw 👍
so cars which were overpriced and not selling have dropped in price a little and people make videos - got you. Auto Trader will let you know if its a fair price or a good price with coloured text....even with these drops the cars are still over prices and yes they are not selling....... wonder why
This is an exceptional problem with LR - massive security/theft issue, insurance rates (in London) over £10K if they will cover you and then there is the lack of reliability together with a parts famine-a perfect storm. If LR are not extremely worried about- they should be - they are on the cusp of losing a loyal customer base.
You seem in good spirits considering the issues and financial losses you've had thanks to with JLR. I suggest staying away from JLR as it's a rogue brand and also EVs!!
They can discount Land rovers all they want, if are sat on the drive broken with no parts available they are worthless. While it's broken and sat on the drive at least it will prevent it from being stolen. That is if you can insure it.
All car prices are crashing.ive never seen so many cheap Audis,BMWs ,Mercedes etc.
It’s a great time to buy👌🏻
@@thedoctorsgarageNot really, they're nothing like pre COVID prices and will continue to drop .
I have had BMW x's for the last 14 years. First I had an X5, which was horrifically expensive to run, followed by 4 X3's. My current X3 LCI I took delivery on 03/22 & traded in a 03/19 21K mileage same spec car ( just changed the colour ). They gave a great trade-in deal..........................so great, and I kid you not, all I had to lay out was £63, YES £63 ( which I paid using my Debit Card!! and just sat back and waited for the factory-ordered car to turn up, which was 3 months.) It was such a good deal I treated myself to a set of brand-new mats. In fact what it boiled down to was they gave me £3K more for my 21-plate car than I paid for it, plus they lobbed a massive chunk on the table as a discount off the new car. The finance payment stayed the same. Overall I was well pleased.
Thanks for sharing your experience, sounds like BMW have looked after you 👍🏻
Well the dealership has recently been taken over by Vertu..................and I reckon that will mean I have become worthless as a customer!
Would definitely buy new landrover if wasn't reliability issues
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If you think Evs are cheap now wait till next year there’s a pice of legislation that comes into affect between coverment and the vehicle manufacturers that if they don’t hit the correct ratio of evs to ice vehicles they get a fine of £16000 per ev they are down they will drop the new price of them substantially next year on new evs making the used ones particularly worth less . With range rovers and a lot of other keyless entry cars if people just switched it of that would cut 80% of thefts .
True- easy thing to turn it off
We never had it specced and it still got stolen.
They are getting cheaper, because you can’t get insurance, and if you do get a quote it’s usually over £10k for a YEAR. You have to be out of your mind to buy one right now. Trust I know as I wanted one. Now buying an RSQ8. At least I can get insurance
Great choice!
10 grand my arse. Just renewed £470.....
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Firstly there is no way you got that price for an SVR. Secondly you obviously live in the middle of nowhere. Now put your car somewhere in or around London, and see what quotes you get. Do your homework before commenting
Sorry my bad. That figure was the previous year. This year £680
@@user-xw7bk1pc6oHow is he supposed to know you were talking London prices?
i guess a lot of people have sense
You can buy, but can you insure??????
i like a vw golf thay are a lot cheaper then a land rover love the old discovery 3 better the the new one the Porsha ev have a recall for fire
True!
You need to refuse that disco mate happend to me and my brother they had my car for 4 months same problem had to fight for it but I got a full refund
How old was your car Martin? Refusal doesn’t seem to be an option at the moment at its “repairable” apparently
@@thedoctorsgarage it was 5 months old at the time when it first had the problem it took some doing first they offered me 2 grand compensation then 5 grand in the end they gave me the refund
@@thedoctorsgarage mine was repairable as well but it took so long so I went over the dealership head and complained straight to landrover
Your insurance will cost more than the car ! 😅
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Insurance is becoming a problem too. Easy to steal! Not so easy to insure.
I’m going to buy an INEOS Grenadier. Yes, some early releases have had a few teething issues, but as a totally new car manufacturer, they have done very well. Well worth looking into Dr, especially as you are selling your Defender.
Dr, if the INEOS Grenadier is a tad too utilitarian for you, I highly recommend waiting to see what the new 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser is like.
I haven’t seen many on the road yet, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts when you get it! 👍🏻
Is there EVER a good to buy these unreliable behemoths?
Buying one is the easy bit. Try insuring one!
Very true!
Yeah great bargains with used Land Rovers.
Not so great when you look at the current insurance prices for them 😂
The reason is ? People are nicking them and regardless of what the discount is - you will still end up with a car that will be worth nothing
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Insurance prices !!
Correct.
Your aware that new 2024 models are very very difficult to steal, the statistics are 1 in 1200 and owner left the car running
Plus..only a four year/50k warranty (think Kia or Hyundai) plus terrible electrics. An utter waste of money.
Cars historically have always lost alot of money and now covids over the market is going back to normal
Pound shop Nick Knowles
What about insurance?……😂
Better off with a Bentley Bentayga!
Sorry, have to drop a zero for them to be in my price range :)
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I don't understand and will never understand people who haven't got the funds outright to buy a vehicle to get you about, financing yourself up to the limit in the name of looking cool whilst never thinking about putting something away for your future, bloody daft .
JLR does not have a bright future. Neither does the car industry as a whole.
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Why would you want to buy a Range Rover? Aerodynamics of Anne Hathaways Cottage, unreliable, expensive to insure with the street cred of Harry Sussex.
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How is a car worth £50,000 when it spends 80% of its life plugged into a laptop at a JLR workshop
This is just the start, with in the next 10 years if the car is not smart you will not be able to get insurance and they will all be worthless. Heard this from a top insurance company whistle blower.
Interesting - what do you mean by smart?
@thedoctorsgarage smart as in connected to the network, automatic speed monitoring, automatic insurance adjustment based on driving style, location and time of usage, 15min area monitoring without cameras, and whatever other reasons they need to monitor.
Range Rover. Very huge discounts but very unreliable & very expensive to insure thats if you can find a company prepared to insure it.
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Can't insure a range rover because thousands have been and still being stolen in 10 seconds so why buy one for someone else same as electric cars 4500 to insure no thanks
Money pit
Its not an incredible deal if it is an unreliable piece of shit. The only way I would drive one would be if JLR paid me (a lot of money) to take it.
JLR have terrible build quality……people are fools to buy them. Only a four year/50,000 mile warranty….that is so poor. Seven years for a Kia remember…..five years for Hyundai. Think about that.
LOL! A Range Rover is never good value for money!
I love the price tracker but let’s look at it from the poor dealers point of view the cost of a dealer package for 100 cars is 10k a month plus vat so it’s the dealers that are making autotrader there millions I personally think this information shouldn’t be on view
It’s true - I’m not sure how this extension gets the data so easily??
@@thedoctorsgarage it’s very clever indeed but I wonder what the autotrader will do about it as it’s effecting the dealers that make the company.The autotrader should be buying the system off the maker and shutting it down in my opinion if they let it run I can see a lot of dealers pulling the plug with autotrader.As you said in the video the amount of buyers that will be using this for further discounts will be really making the job harder for the sellers.
@@thedoctorsgarageI believe that the extension gets the price history by sending them the price when you view a car. Then they’re building up a database of prices, which they can then display back to any user of the extension.
I’m sure dealers won’t like it, but it’s the same as if you viewed the adverts yourself, and wrote down the prices.
Why does everyone with a Disco 5 seem to need a new engine?
The whole brand is just all fur coat and no knickers.
Unreliable and spares shortages, easy to steal, residuals dropping like a stone and astronomical insurance costs. Why would anyone sensible go near the JLR brand?
2.0 Range Rover sorry no ruined by inadequate nanny state powerplant…
buy a toyota landcruiser
A Range Rover is NEVER good value for money.
I wouldnt buy another as they are utter garbage, with all JLR products they are style over substance.
I had an F-Type and although stunning, it was poorly made in every manner possible!!!!!!
Your having a laugh.
I wouoend haveva range river if it was gifted to me.
It would be stolen within a week.
Taycan. Load of crap. No range.
Poorly engineered junk. Buyer beware!
Nobody wants to buy this shit electric cars
I've got 10 years no claims and live in a low crime area, a standard Range Rover Vogue 2018 would cost me £4000 a year in insurance. Ridiculous. Who on earth is paying those prices?
Gone crazy hasn’t it!
Range Rover the most nicked car in the UK
You’re right 👌🏻
90 a day from London alone. Manchester isn’t far behind. Are we to believe those figures though, because assuming only 10 a day from Manchester to make a nice round figure, that’s over 3000 Range Rovers a month being stolen from a relatively small area of the UK. I call bullshit on that. I mean, over just four months that would add up to 12,000 Range Rovers stolen. Have you any idea of the scale of that compared to annual sales across the UK, never mind just London? It is beyond credulity. Where the heck do they all end up? Even if they were broken for parts, this would be a massive industrial project that would rival many major industries in scale.