It also showed that that principles, integrity, and fundamental decency, will inspire more loyalty and take you farther, than fear and violence, thats why Tom, Hailee, and so many other towns folk are willing to stick by Rance, even though they are afraid of Valence.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography I think the movie's events showed pretty clearly Tom wasn't afraid of Valance. Although he was just about the only one who wasn't.
I always liked the way he handled his gun...however, notice that when he told Stewart to get out of the shadows Marvin's gun is sitting in his holster already cocked. That wouldn't be the case in real life. I am thinking that it was done so that when Marvin whips it out for the first shot, he doesn't have to worry about cocking it. It makes for a much more intense shot.
Doniphon could've let Liberty kill Stoddard and then he'd have had Hallie for himself. He loved Hallie enough to realize that she was better off with Stoddard, so he not only takes out Liberty, he does it in a way that is repellent to everything he stood for. That's quite a sacrifice.
Doniphon killed Liberty because he began to really respect Stoddard for his courage and integrity for standing up for what he believed in and was willing to die for what for his cause even in the face of a real and formidable threat...Doniphon's love for Hallie was a close secondary thought for him at that moment and didn't realize the depth of love between Hallie and Stoddard...😮😮😮...
Two actual war heroes facing off. What a wonderful moment in cinema history. James Stewart and Lee Marvin, we salute you and thank you for your service. 🗽💜
One of Ford's best. Exceptional cast, great script, dripping with irony and nostalgia. Marvin played one of the best screen villains ever. His voice, his movement, his eyes bespoke evil. And his choice as an actor for the way Valance would die is brilliant! The click of his gun, the shots, the sound of silver dollars dropping, falling to knees and his elegant two- step to the street. Subtle and so memorable because of its simplicity.
Marvin choreographed his own elegant dive into the street. Ford's only direction was to put silver dollars in Liberty's hat because he'd just won at cards. One of Marvin's best performances. He nailed the character of an evil man.
Supposedly, on the first take, one of the silver dollars that fell from Marvin's hat landed on the wooden walkway in front of him and began spinning, for like a full minute, slowly winding down until it just wobbled on the walkway, as Marvin went through his character's death throes. It was completely unscripted and perfect. Everyone marveled at the moment and thought it perfectly symbolized Valence's death. After much thought, Ford reshot the scene because he felt the coin distracted the audience from Valence's death. Sad. I would have loved to have seen it.
i am sure everyone who sees Lee Marvin as the bad guy will always remember him and forgive him because without him this movie the movie could have not been perfect ! All the cast played a wonderful role as well! Great movie with a great song by Gene Pitney!
Here, in this film Lee Marvin (three years before he won Oscar for Cat Ballou) gives his first Oscar performance. Few did athletic bad guys better. Great death scene.
A movie ahead of its time. Fake news. I argued with my uncle at 9 that Tom Donavan was the bigger hero. Nearly 60 years later, I still feel the same way. He stepped aside because he loved her. He could have snuffed out Ransom like a bug. Respect for her, first. Ransom second.
They were probably hiding from the gunfire, watching the fight take place. When Liberty hits the dirt, they figured the danger was over. Makes perfect sense.
I am sure this is a true example of bravery. A man who did not believe in killing, in murder, in violence of any kind, worked very hard to persevere in the presence of one who thrived on it. But every man has their breaking point...some just can take a lot more before it happens. And what we see here is when a good man literally "looks the devil in the eye".
The thing I always hated about this scene was Stewart wearing an apron...if I'm going out there, and in all likelihood I know I'm going to get killed, I'm not going to die wearing a goddamn apron.
Love that crazy Lee Marvin - he was perfect for this movie! What a great film and well produced! Thanks to Gene Pitney singer who also told the story with song!
They don’t make’em like that anymore. What a list of stars: Wayne, Stewart, Marvin, Strode, O’Brien, Carradine, Devine, Martin, Van Cleef, I just can’t remember them all but what a cast!
A lot of real wonderful things in the direction of that scene. For example Liberty has silver dollars in his hat that he had just won in a poker game and when he gets shot the hat falls off and you can hear the sound of the silver dollars hitting the ground as Liberty "cashes in". I also like the image of Link Appleyard in the center of the screen illuminated by the outside light watching Stoddard in stunned disbelief. John Ford is the master storyteller.
I like how their all quietly watching the gunfight behind the door, No ones coming out until its over, just like they all got quiet when Valance walked in when they were all yapn and eatin steak,,.Most are scared only a few brave. Most awesome death scene in Western TV history!
To all the young people out there who never saw this classic, no, I am not going to tell you how it turns out. You will just have to watch for yourself. You will not be disappointed.
I'm English and my dad was a huge fan of westerns..my absolute favourite ..Shane...but this as a kid was the first time I'd heard the word dude. Now I have a US friend who uses the term and am reminded of this film every time.
Man....!!!!! Chill out all you dudes below....!!! It's only a movie; and one that brings three great legends together (Wayne, Stewart, Marvin) in one of the great all time classic western stories.
you can bet , they were waiting for somebody ( dude) to get shot. You saw his two minions come out first. you know they were watching. they knew first shots he was playing. Nobody wanted to get shot by accident. Have not seen movie in long time. did wayne shoot him from the shadows or was it left a mystery to us if he shot him or not. Intentions are one thing, but , ... it think and want dude to have shot him and wayne was just there as back up. as liberties minions were there backing him up too.
Interesting to note that before Liberty went into the street to meet Hash-Slinger, he was in the saloon playing poker. He had the winning hand, aces and eights. He scooped the money in his hat and left the saloon to meet his maker.
Lee Marvin, John Wayne & Jimmy Stewart did their roles extremely well in this vintage flick. I have been a fan of Jim Stewart since my graduate days in the US in the early 1970s. Who'll forget the movie The Man from Laramie (Jimmy), Dirty Dozen (Lee),Hatari & El Dorado (John). They were giants in their fields with natural histrionics and acting skills as the situation demanded.
Lee Marvin,Strother Martin and Lee Van Cleef all played together in the Twilight Zone episode: "The Grave" at around the same time as "Valance" was made,my research comes up empty,as to which project came first?
I liked the part right after this clip where the doctor shows up and demands whiskey. Drinks a long shot right out of the bottle and then declares "Yeah he's dead all right". Now that was some good comic relief tossed in there!
he surely was. the cry of "Liberty, Liberty, Liberty," is designed to make us feel contempt for Valance's gang member. but the ploy is to use this line as a subliminal message to mock anyone who cries out for freedom, and liberty, and make them look as though they are nothing better than a miserable wretch/varmit, or "verminion," who forms an allegiance with a highwayman/tax collector. No character in any western, other than this one, calls out the name of another character, who has just been well and truly shot. And how did Liberty Valance get the name of Liberty, anyway? The same way he got the name Valance!
When Ranse picked the pistol up & started walking back toward Liberty on the walkway, he should have shot Liberty while he was in the shadow. All rules are out when someone is going to kill you & it comes down to survival.
Love this movie and the song, but "the man who shot Liberty Valance, he was the bravest of them all" was not the John Wayne character Tom Doniphon but Ransom Stoddard, the Jimmy Stewart character. He is the one who stood up to Liberty Valance, when he was shot in his right arm then picked up the gun with his left and walked toward certain death and faced Liberty Valance...Ransom Stoddard was the "bravest of them all". Tom Doniphon stood in the shadows our of sight and shot Liberty Valance. Now you tell me who was "the bravest of them all.
I truly hope they dont ever try to remake or reboot this film.Because no one could ever play Liberty Valance except Lee Marvin. He made Liberty incredible! (I dont care if he was a bad guy.) :}
The way he throws himself around like a man possessed before dying is pretty intense imagery, especially in an era where the norm was to throw your arms up in the air and spin around. Pretty harrowing stuff.
It's been a long time, but I think I remember that John Wayne, standing out of sight in the distance, actually killed Lee Marvin's character (Liberty Valance). It that true or not? Who knows for sure.
The movie that showed us that nonviolence will in the end overcome violence , as long as you have someone really violent watching your back.
I think Gandhi said that
I laughed out loud Bluecollar....great comment.
It also showed that that principles, integrity, and fundamental decency, will inspire more loyalty and take you farther, than fear and violence, thats why Tom, Hailee, and so many other towns folk are willing to stick by Rance, even though they are afraid of Valence.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography I think the movie's events showed pretty clearly Tom wasn't afraid of Valance. Although he was just about the only one who wasn't.
@@Dylan-kx6fc , I think you missed my point.
Lee Marvin did a masterful job as the villain in this movie. He didn't just portray bad, or mean. He was downright nasty.
Very.
I always liked the way he handled his gun...however, notice that when he told Stewart to get out of the shadows Marvin's gun is sitting in his holster already cocked. That wouldn't be the case in real life. I am thinking that it was done so that when Marvin whips it out for the first shot, he doesn't have to worry about cocking it. It makes for a much more intense shot.
And Lee Van Cleef as one of his goons, too.
Marvin was badass in real life.
The example was not unlike El Indio from For A Few Dollars More. Gian Maria Volonte did a superb job at playing someone who was absolutely despicable.
I like how Valance's three shots don't evoke any reaction from the people inside, but Stodart's one shot brings everyone rushing out.
No one ea stupid enough to go out there.Not with a clearly uhinged Liberty shooting thgs up.The sheriff was a coward so that was out too.
Omg. So true
Oh come on - they'd all read the script! :-)
They was watching liberty duh
2 shots were fired.
One of the greatest movies ever made,,I watch it at least once a year,, and it just gets better,,
Doniphon could've let Liberty kill Stoddard and then he'd have had Hallie for himself. He loved Hallie enough to realize that she was better off with Stoddard, so he not only takes out Liberty, he does it in a way that is repellent to everything he stood for. That's quite a sacrifice.
Doniphon killed Liberty because he began to really respect Stoddard for his courage and integrity for standing up for what he believed in and was willing to die for what for his cause even in the face of a real and formidable threat...Doniphon's love for Hallie was a close secondary thought for him at that moment and didn't realize the depth of love between Hallie and Stoddard...😮😮😮...
Two actual war heroes facing off. What a wonderful moment in cinema history. James Stewart and Lee Marvin, we salute you and thank you for your service. 🗽💜
One of Ford's best. Exceptional cast, great script, dripping with irony and nostalgia. Marvin played one of the best screen villains ever. His voice, his movement, his eyes bespoke evil. And his choice as an actor for the way Valance would die is brilliant! The click of his gun, the shots, the sound of silver dollars dropping, falling to knees and his elegant two- step to the street. Subtle and so memorable because of its simplicity.
Even in death, Marvin handled it like a boss! Great actor! Great movie!
Mom took me to see this in the theater when it came out. I was 6 yrs old. We drove in a 58 Chevy. Got hooked on westerns and john wayne.
"Here comes Lee Marvin! He's ALWAYS drunk & violent!" -Homer Simpson
Strother Martin's voice is heard calling Liberty, Liberty, … reminding all of his "what we have here, is failure to communicate," in "Cool Hand Luke."
Martin was very good at playing creeps.
Liberty's enjoyment of bullying worked against him. He just couldn't resist taunting, giving time for Wayne (Tom) to get in position.
"When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk"
@@sevenapollo6882 Yes, Tuco!
I think of this movie every time I drop my steak on the floor.
I think of this movie, Every time I get shot down out on the street at night
I keep trying to find a steak that big!
How often do you drop a steak?!?🤪
So does your dog.
I thought that was one of the best death scenes I ever saw. Well done by Lee Marvin!!
Another great death scene is when Dan Duryea gets shot in Winchester 1873.
Check it out.
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See him die in "The Killers" (1964).
Marvin finally got his Oscar, but for a different movie.
He would later do even better the following year with his death scene in "The Killers".
Liberty Valance and Jack Wilson (played by Jack Palance in Shane) are the two best western villains of all time.
This film and The Searchers,amongst,if not,the best Westerns ever made...!...Superb cast,and acting all round...!!
Lee Marvin a special kind of actor
so this is how Liberty dies...with thunderous applause.
lol Star Wars
Just Out of Frame Movie Reviews Cue drum for the pun.
@@TMX1138 no john wayne shot liberty valance, they didn't show that part of the movie, he was hiding and shot him. watch the whole movie
Bob Flannery I know John Wayne shot him. The other user was referencing a line from Revenge of the Sith.
Nope, John Wayne shot him.
No one died in a movie better than Lee Marvin.
Lee Van Cleef and Strother Martin were great in this movie also. All around great movie and performances.
Marvin choreographed his own elegant dive into the street. Ford's only direction was to put silver dollars in Liberty's hat because he'd just won at cards. One of Marvin's best performances. He nailed the character of an evil man.
Just enough to pay for his own funeral!
Supposedly, on the first take, one of the silver dollars that fell from Marvin's hat landed on the wooden walkway in front of him and began spinning, for like a full minute, slowly winding down until it just wobbled on the walkway, as Marvin went through his character's death throes. It was completely unscripted and perfect. Everyone marveled at the moment and thought it perfectly symbolized Valence's death. After much thought, Ford reshot the scene because he felt the coin distracted the audience from Valence's death. Sad. I would have loved to have seen it.
John Ford was so pleased with Lee Marvin's work that he insisted that Marvin do "Donovan's Reef" as a well-earned vacation to Hawaii.
i am sure everyone who sees Lee Marvin as the bad guy will always remember him and forgive him because without him this movie the movie could have not been perfect ! All the cast played a wonderful role as well! Great movie with a great song by Gene Pitney!
I'm not sure why the actor needs to be forgiven at all for playing the bad guy 🤔.
Huh? Now why would anyone need to forgive Lee Marvin for playing this character??
Hopefully in the past 3 years you've gotten smarter!
I saw Lee Marvin once in The Bay; he winked at me.....
Here, in this film Lee Marvin (three years before he won Oscar for Cat Ballou) gives his first Oscar performance. Few did athletic bad guys better. Great death scene.
Liberty was the greatest villain ever.
When the Legend becomes fact . You print the legend
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
Fake news even then
A movie ahead of its time. Fake news. I argued with my uncle at 9 that Tom Donavan was the bigger hero. Nearly 60 years later, I still feel the same way. He stepped aside because he loved her. He could have snuffed out Ransom like a bug. Respect for her, first. Ransom second.
That is one of the greatest death scenes ever filmed !!
Powers Booth really took a lot from Lee Marvin when he played curly bill in tombstone. You can clearly see the similarities.
Good observation.
Stop on.
Hell yeah which made his performance even more awesome
Never thought about it but you are correct.
Thomas F. Wilson said once that he had Liberty in mind when he was playing in Back to the future 3.
All those gunshots... nothing. Then one kills liberty and suddenly the saloon empties... *eyeroll*.
They were probably hiding from the gunfire, watching the fight take place. When Liberty hits the dirt, they figured the danger was over. Makes perfect sense.
My favorite Lee Marvin role
I am sure this is a true example of bravery.
A man who did not believe in killing, in murder, in violence of any kind, worked very hard to persevere in the presence of one who thrived on it. But every man has their breaking point...some just can take a lot more before it happens.
And what we see here is when a good man literally "looks the devil in the eye".
Helps to have a guardian angel Tom Donavan. Aka the Duke
Some men just need killin'. Liberty Valance was one.
The thing I always hated about this scene was Stewart wearing an apron...if I'm going out there, and in all likelihood I know I'm going to get killed, I'm not going to die wearing a goddamn apron.
Marvin at his scariest, even today.
Love that crazy Lee Marvin - he was perfect for this movie! What a great film and well produced! Thanks to Gene Pitney singer who also told the story with song!
Great movie. Just recently saw it. I believe Spielberg wanted Marvin to play Quint in Jaws.
God was being a bad ass when he gave us Lee Marvin.
They don’t make’em like that anymore. What a list of stars: Wayne, Stewart, Marvin, Strode, O’Brien, Carradine, Devine, Martin, Van Cleef, I just can’t remember them all but what a cast!
Last but not least: the lovely VERA MILES (still alive!)
A lot of real wonderful things in the direction of that scene. For example Liberty has silver dollars in his hat that he had just won in a poker game and when he gets shot the hat falls off and you can hear the sound of the silver dollars hitting the ground as Liberty "cashes in".
I also like the image of Link Appleyard in the center of the screen illuminated by the outside light watching Stoddard in stunned disbelief.
John Ford is the master storyteller.
That is a classic Ford shot - he did it in a great many great films, from "Iron Horse", through Stagecoach to trhe ending of The Searchers.
Great death scene by Lee Marvin !! A great actor !
I like how their all quietly watching the gunfight behind the door, No ones coming out until its over, just like they all got quiet when Valance walked in when they were all yapn and eatin steak,,.Most are scared only a few brave. Most awesome death scene in Western TV history!
"Get out of that shadow dude" Lee Marvin played such an intimidating villian
Lee Marvin is a greeeat actor!!!
Laughing voice of Valance,after he has shooted that hanging thing,sounds so quietly.While Valance and Stoddard so close to each other.
Damn, he didnt have to play Liberty like a fool in that way 🤣
Man is literally 💀😂
To all the young people out there who never saw this classic, no, I am not going to tell you how it turns out. You will just have to watch for yourself. You will not be disappointed.
Thomas F Wilson was doing a great homage to Marvin in BTTF 3. His Mad Dog is dripping with Liberty Valance swagger and showmanship
That's what I thought too. The first time I saw Liberty Valance, I immediately thought of Buford Tannen from BTTF3.
I noticed no-one rushed to see if James Stewart was okay. What the hell!
Donnovan did
Yea usually the criminal get the attention like nowadays becomes a martyr .
I'm English and my dad was a huge fan of westerns..my absolute favourite ..Shane...but this as a kid was the first time I'd heard the word dude. Now I have a US friend who uses the term and am reminded of this film every time.
Lee marvins performance in this movie was outstanding superlative acting performance worthy of an Oscar
This may have been Marvin's finest performance in a film. About as good as it gets. Stewart and Wayne were also terrific.
As I was watching this scene I was quoting Tuco from the good the bad and the ugly, "If you're going to shoot, shoot don't talk."
Man....!!!!! Chill out all you dudes below....!!! It's only a movie; and one that brings three great legends together (Wayne, Stewart, Marvin) in one of the great all time classic western stories.
A good supporting cast also
Two LEGENDS!
funny how nobody comes running after the first three shots, just the last one
I noticed that too.
you can bet , they were waiting for somebody ( dude) to get shot. You saw his two minions come out first. you know they were watching. they knew first shots he was playing. Nobody wanted to get shot by accident. Have not seen movie in long time. did wayne shoot him from the shadows or was it left a mystery to us if he shot him or not. Intentions are one thing, but , ... it think and want dude to have shot him and wayne was just there as back up. as liberties minions were there backing him up too.
I wouldn't have come out either knowing a drunk killer was waving a gun around until the last shot was fired.
no one is coming outside while the fight is still going on, that is how you get shot.
Well,wouyld you go out thre knowing Liberty was drunk and spoiling for the fight? I wouldnt.
Tuco would say... "don´t talk...SHOOT"
I was a child when I first saw this movie and even at 6 years old I knew that the John Wayne character really shot Valance. Duh!
Watching this in Lock down here in the UK This time right between the eyes.
Stay safe everyone.
If I get any safer, I won't be any good.
Interesting to note that before Liberty went into the street to meet Hash-Slinger, he was in the saloon playing poker. He had the winning hand, aces and eights. He scooped the money in his hat and left the saloon to meet his maker.
Aces and eights- "Dead Man's Hand"- that is what Wild Bill Hickock was holding when he was shot in the back of the head.
Yes indeed, good catch- "aces and eights"- the infamous dead man's hand that Wild Bill Hickock was holding when fatally shot.
@@patstratpicker5889 "Aces and eights....thank you!" So long, Liberty.
Lee Marvin, John Wayne & Jimmy Stewart did their roles extremely well in this vintage flick. I have been a fan of Jim Stewart since my graduate days in the US in the early 1970s. Who'll forget the movie The Man from Laramie (Jimmy), Dirty Dozen (Lee),Hatari & El Dorado (John). They were giants in their fields with natural histrionics and acting skills as the situation demanded.
Lee Marvin,Strother Martin and Lee Van Cleef all played together in the Twilight Zone episode: "The Grave" at around the same time as "Valance" was made,my research comes up empty,as to which project came first?
I remember that. My guess is they used to same set for The Twilight Zone episode.
Great episode!
Lee Marvin, bad guy, good guy , he was great always. loved his acting! No wander where they got the word -"Dude""
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Dude is a common expression for a city slicker who comes West
Another Western movie is "Dude, Where's my Horse?"
@@TheDunestrider 🤣
Nothing like seeing a bully get what's coming to him
1:42 Tell me I'm the only one yelling, "Insurance shots! Insurance shots!"
Dang...I miss Lee Marvin. He was a real-life tough guy. Now, we have actors that have to be PC.
Oh come on! You left out the doctor’s reaction? That was the best part!!!
When Liberty is shot it looks like a stunt double, not Lee Marvin.
“You got two hands hash slinger”….
I’ve never heard that term other than this film lol.
I liked the part right after this clip where the doctor shows up and demands whiskey. Drinks a long shot right out of the bottle and then declares "Yeah he's dead all right". Now that was some good comic relief tossed in there!
Strother martin ! " Libbety , libbety " love it , such a worm in this movie
I had a lovely dream the other night that Lee Marvin and I watched this film together. I do so love a bad boy ♥️
@@johnbergeson8180, Just because you did doesn't mean anyone else did./
@Kathy: I hear that many girls and women do. Then why did many women like me in my younger days? I mean, I was/am one of the nice guys.
I had a dream about Liberty,not Lee. It was pretty awesome. I too love a bad boy.
if you never seen this movie, watch it.!
A Western Classic that lives on.
Liberty, Liberty, Liberty [A Great Marine bites the dust]
he surely was. the cry of "Liberty, Liberty, Liberty," is designed to make us feel contempt for Valance's gang member. but the ploy is to use this line as a subliminal message to mock anyone who cries out for freedom, and liberty, and make them look as though they are nothing better than a miserable wretch/varmit, or "verminion," who forms an allegiance with a highwayman/tax collector. No character in any western, other than this one, calls out the name of another character, who has just been well and truly shot. And how did Liberty Valance get the name of Liberty, anyway? The same way he got the name Valance!
Cut this clip too short - the best part is when the doc says "dead."
Another great western. Lee Marvin he remains what he deserve for his acting an Oscar.
“Whisky, quick!”
*gets the whisky
“….”
*takes a drink
“…dead.”
When Ranse picked the pistol up & started walking back toward Liberty on the walkway, he should have shot Liberty while he was in the shadow. All rules are out when someone is going to kill you & it comes down to survival.
But it;s a movie. A movie made when pretty much all fights were stand-up
When he shoots valence it's just like the song
NegaSkydoesminecraft hm, maybe because the song is for the movie?
Lee Marvin un grande !!!
The film and song is amazing!
This is in my top 3 westerns and made me a lee Marvin fan for life…..(Shane,liberty valance,magnificent 7) special mention to Val kilmers doc holliday
No one played a bad guy like Marvin.
LEE MARVIN the best
Lee Van Cleff stopped Lee Marvin from beating poor Mr. Peabody to death while they were trashing The Shinbone Star.
Your right that was also a great death scene :)
Love this movie and the song, but "the man who shot Liberty Valance, he was the bravest of them all" was not the John Wayne character Tom Doniphon but Ransom Stoddard, the Jimmy Stewart character. He is the one who stood up to Liberty Valance, when he was shot in his right arm then picked up the gun with his left and walked toward certain death and faced Liberty Valance...Ransom Stoddard was the "bravest of them all". Tom Doniphon stood in the shadows our of sight and shot Liberty Valance. Now you tell me who was "the bravest of them all.
Far too few bullies get what they so richly deserve.
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I truly hope they dont ever try to remake or reboot this film.Because no one could ever play Liberty Valance except Lee Marvin.
He made Liberty incredible! (I dont care if he was a bad guy.) :}
What a cast.
Wonderful Post!Kudos.
The way he throws himself around like a man possessed before dying is pretty intense imagery, especially in an era where the norm was to throw your arms up in the air and spin around. Pretty harrowing stuff.
Alright Dude This time RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYE. 1:31
Such a realistic fall, you can imagine the Italian filmmakers taking note.
One of the best movies ever made.
Best death scene of all time. Burgess Meredith squeaking at the end is icing on the cake.
That would be Strother Martin. Not Burgess
@@brian-vz5hz "What we have here is, failure to identify."
This is a great scene.
ah- excuse me- " the Dude" does not abide-- this will not stand, see? so- valance-
dont be pissin on my rug..man.
It's been a long time, but I think I remember that John Wayne, standing out of sight in the distance, actually killed Lee Marvin's character (Liberty Valance). It that true or not? Who knows for sure.
True....Wayne shot him.
@@stephenhatley1599 Thank you very much, Mr. Hatley.
It's like when Mr. Orange shoots Blondie in the background in Reservoir Dogs.