are they legal, though? I mean, I know using "regular" earphones is not legal (at least in Valencia where you're riding, I'm from Barcelona so same thing applies) and I don't know if these bone conduction headphones fall in the same category. Thx!
Great video, I can appreciate that you're giving your critical feedback on some of these headsets. Too many reviews on UA-cam and elsewhere are all sunshine and roses because they're sponsored and don't want to jeopardize getting free sh*t later. This was a very good no-bs review.
Also using the Shokz for a while for cycling, it's not perfect but really good at slow speeds as you said. I do press pause on descents as well. Battery life is outstanding.
I like how you talk about safety of the earphones then cut to a video of you biking fast through the city on a 2 way narrow bike lane while holding a camera behind you lol!
I love that you gave a review. To hear you talk about the annoyances of the noise around you and the headphone volume too much/not enough. I dont think other reviews give an honest review in this manner. I dont have a hard time hearing but i dislike the annoyances that come with headphones ie: sweat in ear and the buds falling out, having to keep pulling my ear to push it back in UGGA, not loud enough when driving, JUST NOT LOUD ENOUGH......etc All I care about with a head phone is: ease of wearing and volume when in loud noisy areas. Apparetly I find myself in loud surroundings often when I need blue tooth calling. Thank you for your review
Good review. I'm sticking to Shokz. BTW: I was torn about whether to get my son a set of OpenRuns or OpenRunPros for Christmas. It came down to the following: The Pros have an extra 2 hours or so of battery (10 hours total) and you can set them up via a phone app. The downside is they are less waterproof -- only IP55. The regular OpenRuns are IP67, and provide a real 8 hours of playing time. My son cares less about IP ratings, likes apps and is on his phone all day, so I got him the Pros. I cycle a lot in all weathers so I'll stick to the regular OpenRuns. Cheaper to buy and more waterproof. Cheers
I've been using the SHOKZ OpenRun Pro after Laurens Ten Dam recommended them and I have to admit it's a game changer for me! It's been fantastic for long slow rides to keep me entertained.
Pretty much almost half of road cyclists and runners in my city wears bone conduction headphones. I borrowed two from my friends for running and cycling, Shokz OpenRun and OpenRun Pro. Compared to standard earphone (my AirPods Pro 2 and Bose Soundsport Wireless), the bass response from the bone conduction headphone is lacking. But when I’m running or cycling, sound quality is not a priority. As long as I can hear the songs, it’s alright. This is true for running because of my slower pace. But for cycling at higher speed, just like you said, the sound from headphone is “fighting” with the wind noise going past through my ears and I have to pump the volume to the max. It’s okay for the OpenRun, but for the OpenRun Pro, when I set to the max volume, the vibration of the headphone (because of the claimed better bass response) becomes annoying. So yeah, it is way safer to ride the bike with these bone conduction headphones because you become aware of the outside world, but expect to have compromise in sound quality.
Watched this video last week and ordered some all i can say is absolutely brilliant tried them 1st on Gravel bike off road and then used on road bike best little tech buy for a long time . Cheers
I'm a welder and I use Open Run Pro with my professionnal ear plugs, then I don"t hear the surronding noise and in a factory there's a lot of noise. Thanks for this review
As a cyclist, thank you for this critical review. I'm skipping these and going back to the Plantronics Backbeat Fit, which sounds good, stops the wind noise, and allows you to hear around simultaneously.
heck yeah! having my ears open for sirens, horns, and car engine lets me know if I need to give space for cars to pass. that being said, I'm going to hate it when everything becomes electric and silent.
@@jasperverkuijl Yes Jasper,...thanks so much for replying back, 😃😃😃,...I'm sorry I've been "MIA" for a while, but, good things are yet to come,..I'm no longer working at BJs, but got a new job at Walmart, (like the one you shoped at in Orlando, FL) Just got a new SE Fast Ripper, (I really want to send you a photo 😀, "Hydrolic Disc Brakes"🤙🤙🤙) will be getting a new Scott Addict 20, 56cm,soon,....we'll keep you posted on that,...CHEERS MATE !!!!
I am using Wissonly Hi Runner, and in fact, it works very well. I think Jasper underestimated Hi Runner and may not have experienced it in depth. Its functions are very powerful and can be used in multiple scenarios, such as running, cycling, swimming, etc. Moreover, the price is also very nice
I have had a pair shokz titanium since 2017, they are a little heavier than current models and they use MicroUSB for charging but they are still working fine. I ride mostly trails, when in traffic, I don't listen to anything.
This experience lines up exactly with my experience with Shokz. Impossible to hear with wind or speed or busy streets. Still going to continue using mine. I literally pause them like Jasper haha. Jasper I got one question for you, when are you coming back to ride in SoCal, we need you on the Nichols ride!
Such an awesome review and comparison !!! I'm a cyclist and have also had limited success with in-canal headphones. Given how we like stuff to fit a certain way, ie helmet and sunglasses, do the headphones interfere with the sunglasses on your ears ? Also, can you approximate the riding speed at the point where the wind noise becomes too much ? I love to cruise @ 20 mph in an aero position and when my position is right, I hear very little wind noise, so maybe the headphones would be more distracting? That said, I would love to play some death metal on hard interval sets. I suppose since the headphones are so flexible and durable, I could take them off at any time during the ride.
They don’t interfere. If you don’t like the wind noise just pause it and continue when the wind is less. For music it’s not that big issue as for podcasts. Speed… I’d say 35-40km/h it’s windy
these shox headphones make me nauseous. they vibrate the bone to directly transmit sound to the cochlea, but because that's attached to the semicircular canals that affect balance, they can mess with your equilibrium. and they don't block the wind noise so you can't use them for any real cycling anyway
I do experience the vibration like I mentioned in the video but I have not been nauseous by it luckily. Indeed the wind noise is an issue like I’ve talked about…
Thanks for the review! Shockz are on offer at Futurumshop at the moment, so I was considering buying some. But I think the wind noise is really going to annoy me. So I'll stick with my bluetooth ear-buds. With al the quit electric vehicles these, days you better rely on vision anyway and it also filters out the constant death threats that you get on a bike ;)
Fun fact, the bone conduction headphone thing has been around for at least 15 years. I know this because I used to do triathlons and they were marketed as something you listen to while doing your swim training. And even back then, they didn't work half bad. So it was really no surprise to me at 7:00 where Jasper says you can use them in the shower. I think that's basically where they originated.
it's like a century or more old. Inventor had a deaf kid and he noticed his kid was squeeling with excitement when he put his teeth on the table that a record player was playing. Using in the shower....do lap swimmers use them? i'm broke and can't afford to try them. maybe should get find a rich divorced woman haha
I have the head shox and they play music for rides over 5 hours. Never break down due to sweat either. AirPods only good for 3 hrs and wear out due to sweat after 1 yr
I use them with my Varia radar, I'm a bit deaf so cannot hear the bleeps! It lets me hear cars being registered and after they p[ass and then give me the all-clear. Works brilliantly as long as the volume is turned up high.
Tbh windnoise is soo loud that id rather hear nothing than that. Is there something that completely blocks all noise from outside? Its for daily commute so id like to listen to music or audiobooks. Now my ears ring everytime i come home (Im using the jaybird x3's atm, but theyre 5+ years old now and im worried when theyll eventually die, since they arent sold anymore, but windnoise is still a problem)
@@jasperverkuijl hi, thanks for the respons but i forgot one of my biggest requirements: gloves I need to be able to play and pause music with gloves but also be able to wear a hat and a helmet. Could you google "jaybird x3"? Just so you have a visual how they look. You see the physical buttons? Perfect for gloves 😊
That doesn't sound convincing for windy conditions. And when cycling with a little wind, there is always a lot of wind noise in your ears. I used to wear these street style (named by Sony) headphones. Those were small on ear headphones, with a neckband too. The pro was: they covered your ears, so the wind wouldn't get to your ears, but they didn't close your ears off from the world. They actually got the wind out of your ears and let music in instead. And because they had a neckband, they were perfect to combine with a helmet and sunglasses or normal glasses. If you want to know what I mean: it's the MDR-G series. But they have been discontinued for quite some time now. Not sure whether there was ever a version with bluetooth. Most of them were wired. They should bring out something like that for cyclists now.
Of course there is wind noise. Your ears are open! Put ear plugs in your ear and see if you can still hear the wind noise, but it defeats the purpose of this device, no?
The safety aspect could’ve been reviewed a bit more thoroughly. I also own a Shokz and benefited greatly by hearing around me. I do not look for audiophile’s quality when riding.
How well do the LinkBuds work for allowing in outside sounds? I know Shokz have a purpose and a compromise with sound quality. However the sound quality is so terrible, that it annoys and distracts me. I have Sennheiser Momentum 3 TWS buds which sound amazing but are bad for cycling as the transparency mode amplifies wind. I have not found a solution I am happy with.
@@jasperverkuijl they are TWS launched by SONY middle of 2022. They have a donut design which allow noise from surrounding to reach inside our ear. Sound quality is very good
Hi Jasper, Great video. I have a question about the mic on the bone conduction. Do you have experience with making phone calls on the bike. Does the person you are calling experience the wind noise with bone conduction headphones? As I ride a speedpadelec I tend to ride 45 km/h so there is quite some wind noise. Do the headphones you have tested have traditional mics or is the mic a bone conduction type?
Mic is normal mic and will have wind noise when calling. How often do you call wile riding your speed pedelec? Calling in non riding conditions works great and I Use it all the time for that purpose
Thanks for the review Jasper, I have been considering these. Did you mention battery life on the units? If so I missed it! Be interested to know how long you are listening between charges. Thanks!
Didn’t mention it. It’s about 8 hours for the Haylou and shokz. They charge in 15 minutes to a 2 hour battery life and in 2 hours to 100%. I was impressed by it. More info on battery life is available on the products websites of course
Are these type of headsets comfortable laying down in the bed or couch? On a day with no wind. Around what speed is the noise too much to listen to a podcast? Is 25km/h okay or is full smash 40km/h it’s too hard to hear?
@@ankjaers I listen to audio books and podcasts all the time, not super comfortable cause it wraps behind so you'll eventually be pushing it past your ear but that's not what this was made for. I ride at 19-22mph solo. I also think wind noise changes with helmet shapes so experiences may differ.
Looks really good, especially because In-Ears with cable at the back seem to die out. Did any model stand out in terms of battery run time? When you don‘t want to use them any more, can you make them small enough to fit in your back pockets?
@@jasperverkuijl A local shop had a good deal on the Shokz. I find the sound quality better than expected. Glad they are not bulkier, it‘s close with the sunglasses and the helmet straps.
Thanks for the review. I’m cycling to work daily within the city… not very fast… takes me an almost hour for 13 km… but I do have the problem with wind… do you use any wind blocking stuff on the helmet? Like windblox or something? What do you think about those?
No I don’t use them because I think they look ridiculous…. But they probably work yes. The bone conduction in combination with those wind blockers would probably work perfect!
@@jasperverkuijl I just got my Haylou on Friday. And it works wonders even without the wind blockers… part of the decision made for haylou came from your video. Thanks man! Have a good one!
I use shokz but concur that it is hard to hear with lots on outside noise and you can't turn them up enough. They are almost useless for indoor riding with fans so I use airpods with noise cancelling.
What about the length of each headband? Which one is the longest? I've tried 2 cheap pairs from Amazon that were too short. That caused the conductors to sit at an odd angle or. Ot in the right spot for optimal performance.
@@jasperverkuijl 16:53 It looks like a seahorse when you keep it on its side and you put the earpiece pointing upwards. Seahorse you know what one is? Use your imagination goddamn it!! 🤣
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed yes I get the whole seahorse thing man…. I just don’t know why a headphone should look like a seahorse. That’s what I meant
Ive had 4 pairs of aftershockz , 2 pairs of wired headphones and 2 pairs of bluetooth wireless and they have all been pretty much bombproof. My bluetooth ones have about 5 years of use on them and charge via microusb. I'm not a fan of proprietary cables even if I like the magnetic cables since I use similar break away cables for the phone. Only function issue was my model had some problems with the outer coating which came off after 6 months of daily use and storage in my car (didn't affect function in wet weather). My only other major gripe with shockz is how they have started cheaping out with their storage systems. My wired sets came with very nice hard cases, the Bluetooth pair came with a soft zipper pouch (which is functional even if it doesn't have protection) and now it just looks like a cheap storage bag. #lame for what you're paying for IMO.
Sounds like good experience👌🏻 Yeah the shokz open run pro comes with a very nice hard case actually👌🏻 (but it’s a bit more expensive and less waterproof)
Same for me. I love my OpenRuns, but the coating on the transducers came off. The dealer gave me a new set as a warranty replacement, no questions asked, but the coating fell off them also. It hasn't affected the sound or the waterproofing as far as I can tell though.
Cela fait 2 ans que j'utilise des écouteurs à Conduction Osseuse car je ne supporte pas les écouteurs dans les oreilles et sous les casques à coque il fait parfois chaud. De plus j'apprécie et je me sens plus en sécurité de savoir ce qu'il se passe autour de moi. Jusqu'à présent j'utilise aftershock et j'ai fait des émules dans la famille et chez les amis et connaissances
@@jasperverkuijl We got you, bro. Basically, she said that she has been using a bone conduction headphones for 2 years because she can't stand earbuds in her ears and under helmets it overheat sometimes. Also she appreciates and feels way more secure listening to her surroundings. She's still using her Aftershokz and even being emulated by her family, friends and entourage. Lol
I was considering them for listening to radio/podcasts during my commute on a 45km/h speed pedelec bike. But it seems the wind will make it impossible to hear? We bought a pair for my dad, I should try them on my bike before buying a pair myself...
Mmmm I think it will be an issue. Maybe if you have good wind deflectors (it’s a product you clip onto your helmet strap to prevent the windhoos) it would work.
Get some of those cheap foam ear plugs they sell for DIY. They make a huge difference when it's windy. I keep a couple in my bike's top tube bag as a "just in case" option. But I rarely have to use them Cheers
I am at my second shokz device having failed both of them after 15 months. Would not recommend the product until they have resolved there reliability issue. I love the bone conduction though. Has anyone tested the H2O tri?
Hi, Is there any set that can b used for swimming that can b play forward and rewind on the same track ? I cant understand why they dont bring that function
the reason is because you might want to chat to someone while cycling. one doesnt always push ones heart while cycling. some people commute on it. or do it for fun. earbuds that work in the wind enble that usecase. wired ones work. freebuds pro 3 apparently is good enough. @@jasperverkuijl
I'm surprised how unpopulair smooth neckband headphones are with cyclist. To me it's the superior design. -A smooth shell acualy reduces wind noise, I keep mine on even if not in mood for entertainment. -they combine great with a helmnet -better sound then all other options, unless you don't mind full studio headphones. -if you get one with a cable they're light (more comfort) When senheiser announced the end of production for the pmx60 I bought 2 spares, now I regret not buying 10.
Cyclist here. Used to ride 200-250 miles per week. I don't agree listening to music while riding; your ears are your primary protection against cars. Your helmet mirror is second, but your ears are always "ON."
u were bought and hyped the sponsored product. also do call tests with the phone you call in a quiet environment. tehn record video with a second camera. and switch between the camera sound and the recording of the phone at home. @@jasperverkuijl
Questions and/or Comments about this review? Let me know!! 👇
Misschien nog de batterijduur vergelijken?
are they legal, though? I mean, I know using "regular" earphones is not legal (at least in Valencia where you're riding, I'm from Barcelona so same thing applies) and I don't know if these bone conduction headphones fall in the same category. Thx!
please send me one free ı will pay cost of cargo :)
@@ruvar redelijk makkelijk te vinden in de specs van de units. Uur of 8-10 doen ze het. Best lang.
@@afontcu good question and I don’t know the answer. It may be a “grey” area…
Great video, I can appreciate that you're giving your critical feedback on some of these headsets. Too many reviews on UA-cam and elsewhere are all sunshine and roses because they're sponsored and don't want to jeopardize getting free sh*t later. This was a very good no-bs review.
Thank you. 🙏🏻
Also using the Shokz for a while for cycling, it's not perfect but really good at slow speeds as you said. I do press pause on descents as well. Battery life is outstanding.
Yep we use it the same way than 👍🏻
You are the first person who talked about wind noise. I bought two bone conduction and stop use them. Thank you very much.
Guess no one else did a proper review?🤷🏼♂️
I have been using the shokz for cycling for a year now and really like them. Great for cycling.
This is the best review that I have seen for cycling. Thanks for the detailed review.
You’re welcome!🤙🏻
I like how you talk about safety of the earphones then cut to a video of you biking fast through the city on a 2 way narrow bike lane while holding a camera behind you lol!
In my defense: I ride one handed with a camera half of the time🤪
LOL
Yeah, who designed those bike lanes? Someone who only rides a 3 speed bike?
I love that you gave a review. To hear you talk about the annoyances of the noise around you and the headphone volume too much/not enough. I dont think other reviews give an honest review in this manner. I dont have a hard time hearing but i dislike the annoyances that come with headphones ie: sweat in ear and the buds falling out, having to keep pulling my ear to push it back in UGGA, not loud enough when driving, JUST NOT LOUD ENOUGH......etc
All I care about with a head phone is: ease of wearing and volume when in loud noisy areas. Apparetly I find myself in loud surroundings often when I need blue tooth calling.
Thank you for your review
Good review. I'm sticking to Shokz.
BTW: I was torn about whether to get my son a set of OpenRuns or OpenRunPros for Christmas.
It came down to the following:
The Pros have an extra 2 hours or so of battery (10 hours total) and you can set them up via a phone app. The downside is they are less waterproof -- only IP55.
The regular OpenRuns are IP67, and provide a real 8 hours of playing time.
My son cares less about IP ratings, likes apps and is on his phone all day, so I got him the Pros.
I cycle a lot in all weathers so I'll stick to the regular OpenRuns. Cheaper to buy and more waterproof.
Cheers
I've been using the SHOKZ OpenRun Pro after Laurens Ten Dam recommended them and I have to admit it's a game changer for me! It's been fantastic for long slow rides to keep me entertained.
Pretty much almost half of road cyclists and runners in my city wears bone conduction headphones. I borrowed two from my friends for running and cycling, Shokz OpenRun and OpenRun Pro. Compared to standard earphone (my AirPods Pro 2 and Bose Soundsport Wireless), the bass response from the bone conduction headphone is lacking. But when I’m running or cycling, sound quality is not a priority. As long as I can hear the songs, it’s alright.
This is true for running because of my slower pace. But for cycling at higher speed, just like you said, the sound from headphone is “fighting” with the wind noise going past through my ears and I have to pump the volume to the max. It’s okay for the OpenRun, but for the OpenRun Pro, when I set to the max volume, the vibration of the headphone (because of the claimed better bass response) becomes annoying.
So yeah, it is way safer to ride the bike with these bone conduction headphones because you become aware of the outside world, but expect to have compromise in sound quality.
💯 agree. The bass is terrible, Nothing compared with other headphones.
Watched this video last week and ordered some all i can say is absolutely brilliant tried them 1st on Gravel bike off road and then used on road bike best little tech buy for a long time .
Cheers
Hey that’s super cool man. Thanks for coming back and leaving a comment to let us know 🙏🏻
Shokz for me for the last year or so, great battery life and never ride without them 👍🏻
Fantastic review, thank you Jasper!
You’re welcome
I'm a welder and I use Open Run Pro with my professionnal ear plugs, then I don"t hear the surronding noise and in a factory there's a lot of noise. Thanks for this review
Nice combination 👌🏻👌🏻
Which earplugs do you use? I find the button beeps to be freakishly loud.
brilliant. That was a review that I didn't know I needed, but very grateful for it. Superb content Jasper. Thanks
“Voor je kijken!” Nice one, unfortunately have to use that line often as well..
🫣😅
As a cyclist, thank you for this critical review. I'm skipping these and going back to the Plantronics Backbeat Fit, which sounds good, stops the wind noise, and allows you to hear around simultaneously.
heck yeah! having my ears open for sirens, horns, and car engine lets me know if I need to give space for cars to pass. that being said, I'm going to hate it when everything becomes electric and silent.
shoks are the inventor of this tech application, its nice to support that
Nice work, Jasper,......I love seeing the "hoods" all the way up,mate,.......😃😃😃
Yo Don! You still alive brother 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@jasperverkuijl Yes Jasper,...thanks so much for replying back, 😃😃😃,...I'm sorry I've been "MIA" for a while, but, good things are yet to come,..I'm no longer working at BJs, but got a new job at Walmart, (like the one you shoped at in Orlando, FL) Just got a new SE Fast Ripper, (I really want to send you a photo 😀, "Hydrolic Disc Brakes"🤙🤙🤙) will be getting a new Scott Addict 20, 56cm,soon,....we'll keep you posted on that,...CHEERS MATE !!!!
@@donfuchs172 awesome man. Good youngest you’re doing well. 👍🏻
Useful info, thanks for the video
I am using Wissonly Hi Runner, and in fact, it works very well. I think Jasper underestimated Hi Runner and may not have experienced it in depth. Its functions are very powerful and can be used in multiple scenarios, such as running, cycling, swimming, etc. Moreover, the price is also very nice
I didn’t like the fit so never used it a lot
I have had a pair shokz titanium since 2017, they are a little heavier than current models and they use MicroUSB for charging but they are still working fine. I ride mostly trails, when in traffic, I don't listen to anything.
I think the new charging cables are because of the water proofing.
Is yours water proof at all?
Great review, great content, keep it up! Will you review the Mojawa Run Plus? Apparently it's better than the shokz
Don’t think so. I’m not really into doing much reviews..
This experience lines up exactly with my experience with Shokz. Impossible to hear with wind or speed or busy streets. Still going to continue using mine. I literally pause them like Jasper haha. Jasper I got one question for you, when are you coming back to ride in SoCal, we need you on the Nichols ride!
Yeah I’d love to come back to Cali! Just not on the long flights anymore right now… I miss the NPR and CBR rides!😩
Here the same with shokz, speeds above 30kmph and you don't here the music
@@thomasrieff2918 im still quite ok at higher speeds but it really depends on the wind direction..
Such an awesome review and comparison !!! I'm a cyclist and have also had limited success with in-canal headphones.
Given how we like stuff to fit a certain way, ie helmet and sunglasses, do the headphones interfere with the sunglasses on your ears ?
Also, can you approximate the riding speed at the point where the wind noise becomes too much ?
I love to cruise @ 20 mph in an aero position and when my position is right, I hear very little wind noise, so maybe the headphones would be more distracting? That said, I would love to play some death metal on hard interval sets. I suppose since the headphones are so flexible and durable, I could take them off at any time during the ride.
They don’t interfere.
If you don’t like the wind noise just pause it and continue when the wind is less.
For music it’s not that big issue as for podcasts.
Speed… I’d say 35-40km/h it’s windy
these shox headphones make me nauseous. they vibrate the bone to directly transmit sound to the cochlea, but because that's attached to the semicircular canals that affect balance, they can mess with your equilibrium.
and they don't block the wind noise so you can't use them for any real cycling anyway
I do experience the vibration like I mentioned in the video but I have not been nauseous by it luckily.
Indeed the wind noise is an issue like I’ve talked about…
Interesting you mention this! The Shokz make me feel disoriented. I thought it was just the bad sound quality tonal imbalance messing with me.
I really liked these the sound is pretty good I've heard some nice sounds
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Thanks for the review! Shockz are on offer at Futurumshop at the moment, so I was considering buying some. But I think the wind noise is really going to annoy me. So I'll stick with my bluetooth ear-buds. With al the quit electric vehicles these, days you better rely on vision anyway and it also filters out the constant death threats that you get on a bike ;)
Fun fact, the bone conduction headphone thing has been around for at least 15 years. I know this because I used to do triathlons and they were marketed as something you listen to while doing your swim training. And even back then, they didn't work half bad. So it was really no surprise to me at 7:00 where Jasper says you can use them in the shower. I think that's basically where they originated.
it's like a century or more old. Inventor had a deaf kid and he noticed his kid was squeeling with excitement when he put his teeth on the table that a record player was playing. Using in the shower....do lap swimmers use them? i'm broke and can't afford to try them. maybe should get find a rich divorced woman haha
Great review, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Great job on the video m8
I have the head shox and they play music for rides over 5 hours. Never break down due to sweat either. AirPods only good for 3 hrs and wear out due to sweat after 1 yr
I love my Haylou headphones!!
I use them with my Varia radar, I'm a bit deaf so cannot hear the bleeps! It lets me hear cars being registered and after they p[ass and then give me the all-clear. Works brilliantly as long as the volume is turned up high.
Awesome!
3:58 - 4:08 In a hurry Jasper? Voor je kijken!🤣
Altijd!🤪🫣
Awesome review!!!!!! Very thorough. I'm at a cross roads now. My Apple Ear Pods Pro are going to Apple for repair AGAIN! I"m looking for replacement.
I haven’t used those so don’t know. I’d always be scared to drop them 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@jasperverkuijl And that's why mine are probably broken. Lol
aftershokz opencomm was tip top, but it did not fit under ear protection for grinding with angle grinders etgc.
Tbh windnoise is soo loud that id rather hear nothing than that.
Is there something that completely blocks all noise from outside?
Its for daily commute so id like to listen to music or audiobooks.
Now my ears ring everytime i come home
(Im using the jaybird x3's atm, but theyre 5+ years old now and im worried when theyll eventually die, since they arent sold anymore, but windnoise is still a problem)
Apple EarPods with noise reduction
@@jasperverkuijl hi, thanks for the respons but i forgot one of my biggest requirements: gloves
I need to be able to play and pause music with gloves but also be able to wear a hat and a helmet.
Could you google "jaybird x3"?
Just so you have a visual how they look.
You see the physical buttons?
Perfect for gloves 😊
I suffer from wind noise to the point of tinnitus. Nightmare has anyone over come the wind noise issues.
That doesn't sound convincing for windy conditions. And when cycling with a little wind, there is always a lot of wind noise in your ears. I used to wear these street style (named by Sony) headphones. Those were small on ear headphones, with a neckband too. The pro was: they covered your ears, so the wind wouldn't get to your ears, but they didn't close your ears off from the world. They actually got the wind out of your ears and let music in instead. And because they had a neckband, they were perfect to combine with a helmet and sunglasses or normal glasses.
If you want to know what I mean: it's the MDR-G series. But they have been discontinued for quite some time now. Not sure whether there was ever a version with bluetooth. Most of them were wired. They should bring out something like that for cyclists now.
I was just about to buy a pair, but the wind noise thing is definitely a no
Of course there is wind noise. Your ears are open! Put ear plugs in your ear and see if you can still hear the wind noise, but it defeats the purpose of this device, no?
The safety aspect could’ve been reviewed a bit more thoroughly. I also own a Shokz and benefited greatly by hearing around me. I do not look for audiophile’s quality when riding.
I think I’ve mentioned that very clearly in the beginning???
Sony linkbuds changed the game for me, much more comfortable compared to bone conduction headphones
Never heard of that. Wat is it?
How well do the LinkBuds work for allowing in outside sounds? I know Shokz have a purpose and a compromise with sound quality. However the sound quality is so terrible, that it annoys and distracts me. I have Sennheiser Momentum 3 TWS buds which sound amazing but are bad for cycling as the transparency mode amplifies wind. I have not found a solution I am happy with.
@@jasperverkuijl they are TWS launched by SONY middle of 2022. They have a donut design which allow noise from surrounding to reach inside our ear. Sound quality is very good
@@ABHORRANCE831 They are really great sounding and surrounding can be heard clearly. It true unadulterated 'transparency mode'.
How does windnoise appear with them?
Hi Jasper, Great video. I have a question about the mic on the bone conduction. Do you have experience with making phone calls on the bike. Does the person you are calling experience the wind noise with bone conduction headphones? As I ride a speedpadelec I tend to ride 45 km/h so there is quite some wind noise. Do the headphones you have tested have traditional mics or is the mic a bone conduction type?
Mic is normal mic and will have wind noise when calling.
How often do you call wile riding your speed pedelec?
Calling in non riding conditions works great and I Use it all the time for that purpose
Thanks for the review Jasper, I have been considering these. Did you mention battery life on the units? If so I missed it! Be interested to know how long you are listening between charges. Thanks!
Didn’t mention it. It’s about 8 hours for the Haylou and shokz. They charge in 15 minutes to a 2 hour battery life and in 2 hours to 100%. I was impressed by it.
More info on battery life is available on the products websites of course
@@jasperverkuijl thanks Jasper! Was interested in your experience, rather than what is “claimed” on the manufacturer’s web site or box! Cheers! 😉
Are these type of headsets comfortable laying down in the bed or couch? On a day with no wind. Around what speed is the noise too much to listen to a podcast? Is 25km/h okay or is full smash 40km/h it’s too hard to hear?
I would say that around 35 km/h you really have to listen at full volume. And even then you cant hear/understand the music sometimes
@@RobertDownedU_Jr so podcasts are a no go?
@@ankjaers I haven’t tried it but I think so
@@RobertDownedU_Jr thanks for taking the time. Are these headset comfortable laying down?
@@ankjaers I listen to audio books and podcasts all the time, not super comfortable cause it wraps behind so you'll eventually be pushing it past your ear but that's not what this was made for.
I ride at 19-22mph solo. I also think wind noise changes with helmet shapes so experiences may differ.
Definitely game changer in cyclists life.
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Easy to keep contact with discorg between road Captains in club rides
And fun with music
Thanks.
Looks really good, especially because In-Ears with cable at the back seem to die out. Did any model stand out in terms of battery run time? When you don‘t want to use them any more, can you make them small enough to fit in your back pockets?
Yes they fit your back pocket. (On the ride in Valencia I had 1 in my back pocket yhe whole time.
I didn’t test exact battery times…
@@jasperverkuijl A local shop had a good deal on the Shokz. I find the sound quality better than expected. Glad they are not bulkier, it‘s close with the sunglasses and the helmet straps.
Thanks for the review. I’m cycling to work daily within the city… not very fast… takes me an almost hour for 13 km… but I do have the problem with wind… do you use any wind blocking stuff on the helmet? Like windblox or something? What do you think about those?
No I don’t use them because I think they look ridiculous…. But they probably work yes.
The bone conduction in combination with those wind blockers would probably work perfect!
@@jasperverkuijl I just got my Haylou on Friday. And it works wonders even without the wind blockers… part of the decision made for haylou came from your video. Thanks man! Have a good one!
@@elboon_80 awesome man. Thank for letting me know 👍🏻👍🏻
I use shokz but concur that it is hard to hear with lots on outside noise and you can't turn them up enough. They are almost useless for indoor riding with fans so I use airpods with noise cancelling.
Ive used them on the indoor trainer and it worked fine. Guess depends on your trainer and fan 🤷🏼♂️
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What about the length of each headband? Which one is the longest? I've tried 2 cheap pairs from Amazon that were too short. That caused the conductors to sit at an odd angle or. Ot in the right spot for optimal performance.
Don’t know. Think they have large and small options at shokz
Can you use the cheaper, more comfortable ones in the rain to or no?
Yes, ixp67
Are you using the mic on the headphones when you are riding? How is the call quality with wind and noisy environments?
Calling standing still is good. But when riding it’s too noisy
I got the aftershock. 😁
The one that they say that looks like an animal. The only animal I can think of is a seahorse.
Yeah what does a seahorse shape has to do with a headphone?🤷🏼♂️😂😂
@@jasperverkuijl 16:53 It looks like a seahorse when you keep it on its side and you put the earpiece pointing upwards. Seahorse you know what one is? Use your imagination goddamn it!! 🤣
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed yes I get the whole seahorse thing man…. I just don’t know why a headphone should look like a seahorse. That’s what I meant
@@jasperverkuijl ok I see 🤣 👍
Ive had 4 pairs of aftershockz , 2 pairs of wired headphones and 2 pairs of bluetooth wireless and they have all been pretty much bombproof. My bluetooth ones have about 5 years of use on them and charge via microusb. I'm not a fan of proprietary cables even if I like the magnetic cables since I use similar break away cables for the phone. Only function issue was my model had some problems with the outer coating which came off after 6 months of daily use and storage in my car (didn't affect function in wet weather). My only other major gripe with shockz is how they have started cheaping out with their storage systems. My wired sets came with very nice hard cases, the Bluetooth pair came with a soft zipper pouch (which is functional even if it doesn't have protection) and now it just looks like a cheap storage bag. #lame for what you're paying for IMO.
Sounds like good experience👌🏻
Yeah the shokz open run pro comes with a very nice hard case actually👌🏻 (but it’s a bit more expensive and less waterproof)
Same for me. I love my OpenRuns, but the coating on the transducers came off.
The dealer gave me a new set as a warranty replacement, no questions asked, but the coating fell off them also.
It hasn't affected the sound or the waterproofing as far as I can tell though.
bwst call quality is apparentlu huawei freebuds pro 3 as of 2024. any ideas?
Cela fait 2 ans que j'utilise des écouteurs à Conduction Osseuse car je ne supporte pas les écouteurs dans les oreilles et sous les casques à coque il fait parfois chaud. De plus j'apprécie et je me sens plus en sécurité de savoir ce qu'il se passe autour de moi. Jusqu'à présent j'utilise aftershock et j'ai fait des émules dans la famille et chez les amis et connaissances
No idea what you just said 🤷🏼♂️🤪
@@jasperverkuijl We got you, bro. Basically, she said that she has been using a bone conduction headphones for 2 years because she can't stand earbuds in her ears and under helmets it overheat sometimes. Also she appreciates and feels way more secure listening to her surroundings. She's still using her Aftershokz and even being emulated by her family, friends and entourage. Lol
I was considering them for listening to radio/podcasts during my commute on a 45km/h speed pedelec bike. But it seems the wind will make it impossible to hear? We bought a pair for my dad, I should try them on my bike before buying a pair myself...
Mmmm I think it will be an issue. Maybe if you have good wind deflectors (it’s a product you clip onto your helmet strap to prevent the windhoos) it would work.
Get some of those cheap foam ear plugs they sell for DIY. They make a huge difference when it's windy. I keep a couple in my bike's top tube bag as a "just in case" option. But I rarely have to use them
Cheers
I am at my second shokz device having failed both of them after 15 months. Would not recommend the product until they have resolved there reliability issue.
I love the bone conduction though. Has anyone tested the H2O tri?
Guess it’s within warranty so at least you get a new one?
@@jasperverkuijl first failure yes, second no
Hi, Is there any set that can b used for swimming that can b play forward and rewind on the same track ? I cant understand why they dont bring that function
No idea tbh
Mate!!!
What's up!
Where's the new video?
Hope you are well.
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Dropped today!
Are these legal in spain? Normal hedphones are not white riding bike-I got a 100E ticket last year:/
There is nothing in your ears right? So it’s more like a headband 🤪
Try the sharp aqua sound partner
Hi, does a person sitting next to you hear what you're listening to? On a medium volume?
If it's like a library only very slightly. In the real world not really
On medium volume, No. on max volume only when it’s quit en you are very close.
As a pilot, which is best to use in the cockpit?
None haha. To much noise 😂😂
Are they still comfortable after a long ride? No irritation?
I got the shokz pro and I dont even really feel wearing them
Yes very comfy like I mention in the video it’s one of the main reasons I use it.
J’en ai un casque comme sa c’est top
how to change Chinese to English language for Haylou?
Probably somewhere in the manual ?
wearing a then bandana or head band over your ear cuts out the wind noise
Yeah I do that in winter because it’s cold but not in summer 🤷🏼♂️😅
@@jasperverkuijl have you seen a product called Airstream Cat Ears? Looks like elvis side burns and cuts out wind noise 😂
@@robbo3132 I’m usually a believer of function over form but there are limits 😂😂
@@jasperverkuijl 😂👍
what mic. did you use throughout
No mic. Just the camera
and call quality while cycling?
There is lot of wind noise. But why call why cycling anyway. I tried. Not really any purpose to it imo
the reason is because you might want to chat to someone while cycling. one doesnt always push ones heart while cycling. some people commute on it. or do it for fun. earbuds that work in the wind enble that usecase. wired ones work. freebuds pro 3 apparently is good enough. @@jasperverkuijl
I'm surprised how unpopulair smooth neckband headphones are with cyclist. To me it's the superior design.
-A smooth shell acualy reduces wind noise, I keep mine on even if not in mood for entertainment.
-they combine great with a helmnet
-better sound then all other options, unless you don't mind full studio headphones.
-if you get one with a cable they're light (more comfort)
When senheiser announced the end of production for the pmx60 I bought 2 spares, now I regret not buying 10.
Cyclist here. Used to ride 200-250 miles per week. I don't agree listening to music while riding; your ears are your primary protection against cars. Your helmet mirror is second, but your ears are always "ON."
Helmet mirror? I never see anyone with that 🤷🏼♂️
So what I said, you can still hear cars coming with this headphones because your ears are open
Of course there is wind noise. Your ears are OPEN. Still not convinced? Put ear plugs in your ears and see if you can hear the wind noise. 😅😅😅
But the thing is OPEN EAR….. with plugs your ears are not open 🤪
Shokz openmove uses usb c
4:02 ...ja joh "voor je kijkuh" ouwe!
This doesn’t need a 20min video….yes they are.
you’re welcome
use head phones while riding if your crazy.
become a better reviewer. your bias came through. show dont tell. do measurable tests. a
My bias for what?
I still use the shokz and Haylou almost daily
u were bought and hyped the sponsored product. also do call tests with the phone you call in a quiet environment. tehn record video with a second camera. and switch between the camera sound and the recording of the phone at home. @@jasperverkuijl
windy environments. calls along roads, at football matches and planes. and cafees.