New DAWless dude here, i started my journey out with a MPC One as a workstation for making beats on and quickly felt i needed synthesizers to express more in my production. Since i mainly will make old school Hip Hop and was raised on Pink Floyd i naturally gravitate to the Moog sound and as good as the Sub 37 sounds - it feels unpractical to spend $2000 on a first synth. Behringer will hold down the fort until i can save for a Sub 37 fo sho! Thx for a sweet comparison!
Agree 100%. On my earlier vids I've rocked and battered a Model D as it worked and did what I wanted. When you're ready, you'll fee when it's worth trying out a new or better synth.
Interesting video, I have a Subsequent 37 and a PolyD. My PolyD gets a certain bass tone I really like, and find myself using a lot. My recommendation if I may, for you videos, is after the introduction to switch the second camera from your face to a close up of the synth you're adjusting. More editing work, but it's a lot better for viewers who like to see what you're manipulating.
You need to look into even/odd harmonics and transients in the upper harmonics of your root frequency. The cancellation still occurs but the higher transients make it so that you’re focusing elsewhere
@@wackerburg A known technique to create feedback distortion /OD to get more crunch by feeding the output signal into input. Nice thing is Model -D by Behringer is already pre-wired to do that you just flip the switch and turn the knob to about 6-7 in the mix stage. It relay works if done right. In case you didn't already know , wink-wink.
This is a really good comparison! What are you using to record or how are you recording the Moog and Behri D directly to the MPC Live? Eye would love to be able to do this same thing with my Moogs and other instruments instead of sampling everything and chopping it up. Any help will do! And thanks!
@@mackmccord3743 "In addition to the original 31.25 kbit/s current-loop transported on 5-pin DIN, other connectors have been used for the same electrical data, and transmission of MIDI streams in different forms over USB, IEEE 1394 a.k.a. FireWire, and Ethernet is now common."
Imho they both sound great, especially in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing! I personally own a Model D (which I bought used) and am extremely pleased with it for what I paid. There is no real comparison in terms of price. I don't think anyone here would try to argue that if cost was no issue they'd still take the Boog over the Sub37. But Behringer is consistently putting out synths that are unbeatable value *for the $ you pay*. And someday, when the dollas are rolling in from your production career, you can always upgrade!
It's like the Model D is the Robin Hood of synths, giving us great sound at an affordable price. Who needs to be rich when you can have a Behringer in your setup? 😉
Ahh nice, I must have missed this video when you uploaded it. Now it comes at the perfect time as I'm starting to consider getting the sub 25 or 37. I already have the Model D, though. So I really want to make sure it makes sense. I don't play live and have it hooked up to Ableton. So modulation is not a feature I need from the moogs. What's your opinion on the multidrive? Is it very important for the Sub 37 gritty sound? That's the one thing I don't see on any other bass-capable synths.
Which one did you get? The subsequent is a monster with a lot on board. The Model D sounds like a boss but you have to find it’s sweet spot. Look for my earlier vids. You see me with the Model D in full effect
@@AnalogKitchen I didn't buy one yet. But I'm leaning towards the 25. I'll check out your review, thanks for the tip. I love the Model D but I know what you mean, the sweet spots for the kind of bass I like seem to be much bigger with the subsequents..
ALL SYNTH'S are famous for something in their time.. but dollar for dollar I'm going with behringer and run it though a pre setup... But shot out to the legends who always set the standard.
I do get you. And there’s one in my direct neighborhood. But that’s not this video though. More on of a cheaper box can hold its own… Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the great demo!
And you for watching!
Love your approach to creating music and explanation. Most of chfennels miss this.
I appreciate that!
Hey! Sooooooo excited to get together and play some music next week. Really can't wait to see you all in Amsterdam!!
Yes Eric! It’s on brother! We’re going for it!!
what event?
Funky line!! Was grooving the whole video :)
It’s all about the groove!
New DAWless dude here, i started my journey out with a MPC One as a workstation for making beats on and quickly felt i needed synthesizers to express more in my production.
Since i mainly will make old school Hip Hop and was raised on Pink Floyd i naturally gravitate to the Moog sound and as good as the Sub 37 sounds - it feels unpractical to spend $2000 on a first synth. Behringer will hold down the fort until i can save for a Sub 37 fo sho! Thx for a sweet comparison!
Agree 100%. On my earlier vids I've rocked and battered a Model D as it worked and did what I wanted. When you're ready, you'll fee when it's worth trying out a new or better synth.
Top as usual thks !!!!
And you for checking!
Thanks voor SE les van laatst!
Stay tuned for many more!
Interesting video, I have a Subsequent 37 and a PolyD. My PolyD gets a certain bass tone I really like, and find myself using a lot.
My recommendation if I may, for you videos, is after the introduction to switch the second camera from your face to a close up of the synth you're adjusting. More editing work, but it's a lot better for viewers who like to see what you're manipulating.
Thanks for wachting. Great suggestion which I’ll look into on future videos
dope intro!!!
Thanks! Come and hang out at the kitchen club soon!
intro track was dope!
Thanks. Up for release later this year!
ROFL. "love this machine. unbelievable how round the sound is" made me crack up
Great jam. Can you please explain to me, how your kick and bass are playing on top if each other and they don’t get destroyed by phase cancellation?
You need to look into even/odd harmonics and transients in the upper harmonics of your root frequency. The cancellation still occurs but the higher transients make it so that you’re focusing elsewhere
You soulshine is off the chain.. luv it
Wow. Thanks 🙏🏾
HELLLLLLLL YEAH. Can't wait to throw down and also check out everything ADE has to offer!
PS, right there with you on the cheap-but-capable analogs :D
YEs!!!! See you next week! Awesome that you're flying out!
You can beef up a bit bottom end on Model-D by using feedback at around 6-7 as other utuber pointed out
Will look into that! Thanks for sharing
Hi, what do you mean by that? Feeding the phones signal back into the external input? Cheers! 😀
@@wackerburg A known technique to create feedback distortion /OD to get more crunch by feeding the output signal into input. Nice thing is Model -D by Behringer is already pre-wired to do that you just flip the switch and turn the knob to about 6-7 in the mix stage. It relay works if done right. In case you didn't already know , wink-wink.
@@Sonikbytes No, I did not know that. Thanks! So far, I really liked what I heard from this machine.
Love these videos! What is that device you are using that is recording/playing back your sequences?
The MPC you mean?
@AnalogKitchen Akai MPC that must be it! Thank you!
This is a really good comparison!
What are you using to record or how are you recording the Moog and Behri D directly to the MPC Live? Eye would love to be able to do this same thing with my Moogs and other instruments instead of sampling everything and chopping it up. Any help will do! And thanks!
Nothing gets recorded into the MPC. It only triggers the MIDI
@@AnalogKitchen Ahh Thank you! That makes sense! What cable or cables are you using to connect the model d to the MPC?
@@mackmccord3743 "In addition to the original 31.25 kbit/s current-loop transported on 5-pin DIN, other connectors have been used for the same electrical data, and transmission of MIDI streams in different forms over USB, IEEE 1394 a.k.a. FireWire, and Ethernet is now common."
@@honigtamara thank you!
Imho they both sound great, especially in the hands of someone who knows what they're doing!
I personally own a Model D (which I bought used) and am extremely pleased with it for what I paid. There is no real comparison in terms of price. I don't think anyone here would try to argue that if cost was no issue they'd still take the Boog over the Sub37. But Behringer is consistently putting out synths that are unbeatable value *for the $ you pay*. And someday, when the dollas are rolling in from your production career, you can always upgrade!
It's like the Model D is the Robin Hood of synths, giving us great sound at an affordable price. Who needs to be rich when you can have a Behringer in your setup? 😉
Ahh nice, I must have missed this video when you uploaded it. Now it comes at the perfect time as I'm starting to consider getting the sub 25 or 37. I already have the Model D, though. So I really want to make sure it makes sense. I don't play live and have it hooked up to Ableton. So modulation is not a feature I need from the moogs.
What's your opinion on the multidrive? Is it very important for the Sub 37 gritty sound? That's the one thing I don't see on any other bass-capable synths.
Which one did you get? The subsequent is a monster with a lot on board. The Model D sounds like a boss but you have to find it’s sweet spot. Look for my earlier vids. You see me with the Model D in full effect
@@AnalogKitchen I didn't buy one yet. But I'm leaning towards the 25. I'll check out your review, thanks for the tip.
I love the Model D but I know what you mean, the sweet spots for the kind of bass I like seem to be much bigger with the subsequents..
@@mw7851 don’t buy a 25. Save up and go for the 37
@@AnalogKitchen really? What feature is making the difference?
lol.if you had two moog subsequent units we would all hear a difference in side by sdide comparrisons.,.but i liked the video and energy.
Thanks for watching! I know that. I wanted to see if one could be another. Can you get similar sounds out of a 300$ unit
ALL SYNTH'S are famous for something in their time.. but dollar for dollar I'm going with behringer and run it though a pre setup... But shot out to the legends who always set the standard.
Affordable doesn't always win. In most B-Winger boxes it does but again... It's never the car. It's the driver...Thanks for commenting
LOL you need an Alpha Juno.
I have an Alpha Juno. :)
Fat bass
Yezzir!
Never use the word ….cheap when describing products. Maybe less expensive 🤷🏿♂️
Valid point!
@@AnalogKitchen great video btw
Too bad you didn't bring a real Minimoog to make this video :)
I do get you. And there’s one in my direct neighborhood. But that’s not this video though. More on of a cheaper box can hold its own… Thanks for watching.