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That would be amazing! (I wish I knew then what I know now. If I had learned about narcissists at a young age, then it wouldn't have gone on for my whole life with my narcisstic mother.)
Yes, I am starting to agree with this sentiment after this experience! She her illusion had my heart hurting. But she was clearly lying and telling half truths lacking the details for sure! It was always something was off when interacting with her.
@@bostonbutterfly4473 I'm very blessed to live alone and not feel alone. It's a great place to be in. I hope that very soon, you'll be in the same position.
They withhold to bait you by keeping you confused and in fog until you become frustrated . They’ll hold that frustration against you and say to you and everyone else you’re confrontational or argumentative
i have an illness called major depressive disorder. Its caused by Chronic lyme disease…My narc spouse hates it that HE cannot MAKE ME happy. he literally becomes fits of rage When im crying or having an episode….When Im sad and depressed, it angers him, because OF COURSE its all about HIM, HE did something wrong to MAKE ME depressed….well, not initially, but now that he’s making himself the victim when its ME who is havin a very diff time w/sadness….he is so so so very incredibly SELF CENTERED..SORRY to say, but after 39years, i hate him.
@@1timeslime971 I’m so sorry to hear that. Crazy bc I’ve had untreated Lyme for over 20 years now. It’s in the late disseminated stage. It’s killing us slowly…ppl just don’t understand. We have a systemic infection running rampant in our bodies. I feel for you and pray for you. Looks like you need to take the first opportunity you get and leave this clown. You need some 1 empathetic & understanding. Prayers 🙏🏻💚🙏🏻
@@1timeslime971you sure it’s depression or is your body rejecting your husband. As soon as I got divorced I never got sick again. Been two years since I caught illnesses or felt pain
Baby!!!! This man withheld everything. From sex, affection, attention, money. They withhold any and everything they think will hurt you. Thinking you will come crawling back. I did at first when I didn't know about narcissist. After I learned the game his withholding became my healing. It gave me time to heal and get away from him.
I fell out of love when he cheated over and over and he lied about everything even stupid stuff like my parents love you ... They actually didn't so why not just say that?
1) Narcissists enjoy manipulating and controlling others, including withholding certain things to torment their victims. 2) They withhold affection as a form of punishment and to maintain control in the relationship. 3) Narcissists may withhold the truth or not tell the entire truth, which can include omitting important details. 4) They may withhold sex as a form of control and to torment their partners. 5) Narcissists may withhold resources, such as money, information, or emotional support, as a way to maintain power and control in a situation.
Your talking to the wall. Doctors lawyers judges marriage councilors friends children NONE OF THEM HAVE A CLUE WHAT and who these monsters are. NARCISSISTS RULE. ITS SCARRY.
I deserve BETTER! I married a guy who was so sweet and kind. About a year later he started saying things…like threats if I didn’t have sex whenever he wanted then he would divorce me. I thought it was odd because I didn’t ever turn him down. Then it was other threats. I felt like I was losing my mind. I started Therapy and started learning about Narcissism. That’s when I decided to start threatening him back. I’m still here and with him. And he doesn’t do it to me anymore except on occasion. I own our business that he runs. He knows better now. If he starts acting out I just remind him. He doesn’t like that at all. These are SICK PEOPLE. Know the signs before you date or get married! It’s really a Spiritual problem. You either belong to GOD or Satan. Get that straight first and ask God to intervene! 🙏🏻
My narcissist used to do the passive aggressive thing, and sing songs which contain the lyrics of what he was accusing me of doing / saying. For example, if he thought I was lying to him, he would sing "Send me an Angel" ' Don't tell a lie. Don't be false or untrue it all comes back to you'
@@judicox5559 😭 thank you for taking the time to post this comment bc I've been up for days feel like I'm losing my mind and the neverending whistles of songs to deliver a message and everything of that nature while acting stupid whenever I ask him to stop.... I'm broken bc I know my children probably think I'm crazy but have no clue the torture I'm enduring to protect them... bc when I don't give in he goes after my children and I no longer know why to do
Yes, it is. A systematic way of torturing... And the thing about it is it's specific to you. So no one else even understands or nose what he's doing except the two of you. Even a certain look that he would give me when other people were around to make me react, and sometimes I did. So then it just looks like I was going crazy on him for no reason. And during this time I also had cancer so I was in a lot of pain. Anyway. I had cervical cancer which he used to blame on me saying it was because I had too much sex when I was younger. How insane is that?
But I am so sorry that he visits out upon your children! I had two parents that were diagnosed with MPD in their late '50s early. '60s mother was a covert narcissist and daddy wasn't overt narcissist
The MOST POWERFUL man that ever lived was gentle 95% of the time. He didn't use anyone for $, or anything else, and died for all. Narcissists are the opposite. They are evil.
Yes he wouldn't show me any affection. Withheld sex then just laughed and left me crying. Evil . Kicked him out after 6 years of hell . So happy to be free . No man will destroy me again.
Keep up your good work with healing. Thank you for explaining this so others understand that it is not your fault. It's extremely painful and life threatening.
Hurt. Greive the perceived loss. Move forward. They never existed as you wanted to see them. You'd never chase a snake that bit you, to ask it why. Just know that's what a snake does. Educate yourself, be kind to yourself. Give it time. It gets so much better!❤
Sometimes, wife folds her lips in when i try to kiss her, so i am not kissing her lips....i thought it was maybe because she just put on chapstic or something, but when i asked her about it, she made a nasty remark or something and walked away. Very strange behavior right?
I can relate to the affection withholding! She love/lust bombed the hell out of me! Then pulled it back the minute I asked some questions about something she was clearly lying about!
I'm a behaviorist. Behaviorists are uniquely perturbed by narcissists because we can see this whole other set of Motivating Operations that are governing a separate, unique set of behaviors which include lying, misleading, and withholding the truth. The MO conditions are unique and special to the narcissist's ongoing behavior and perceived needs. Behaviorists see these conditions that lead to the pathological/compulsive lying by narcissists...and it is SO painful to witness
I deserve better! Learned I was dating one and didn't realize it till the end putting all the signs together. The love bomb is serious especially if you been single for a while. Be careful in this world, be stronger than them. They hate that!
I have gone thru so much with my nar, it ain't even funny. Actually he taught me how to treat him. Now I'm strong . I always say , who's fooling who. If that make any sense. When he or she going thru there craziness, just repeat the Lord's prayer out loud.
@@cjennings5031 l am a Pagan. What is worrying me is that l yelled 'l hope you die' after months of him torturing me, hitting me, making me crazy crying. THEN a month after l said that he was shockingly diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. He has no hope of recovery. I am a Pagan HEALER.....not an executioner. He made my life an absolute HELL on earth. Now l am healing myself. Love to you ALL here. 💕💞💕💞
Few months ago, I went out of town one weekend w my kids, took them down to the beach. He called me Fri night to make sure we arrived safely. My kids and I were in the indoor pool area - so it was hard to hear, I told him I’d call him back. Well…i didn’t call him back until Saturday night. And WOW…ever since then, he has withdrawn from me. Like I’m being punished.
I was married for 26 years but he withheld sex for the last 5 or more years. I didn't know what a narsisist was but I learned quickly, and the hard way. I read every book, took every class, and went to counseiing. when I tried to discuss it with him, he admitted that withholding sex was the only way he cuold control me. I left that relationship with no self esteem at all, even thought I'd lost 67 pounds and looked the best I had since high school. In my opinion, a man that would treat his wife that way is the cruelest and most evil person on earth. I had opportunities to cheat but I didn't. My reputation and relationship with the Lord meant more to me than getting back at him. He lost a good deal. I was June Cleaver in training and treated him better than he deserved. You are brave, you are beautiful.
You are sooo right!!!Sounds like my soon to be ex. I am sick of it, its Wednesday and because he is mad, no affection, no communication, no sex, nothing since Sunday 😢. I am looking to move, almost 6 years of this and i am over it.
Thay are full of rage that' s why they try to make you emotional and insane. They like negativity and conflicts because they are full of it and can' t stand your positivity or peace.
My parents. But they shot themselves in foot. I am living proof if you hang around narcissists and continue going back to them you will lose just about everything. Even when dealing with narcissistic parents. Same.
Omg, my partner did exactly this to me ,only a few weeks ago, she took a rather casual photo of me in a local bar, refused to send it to me, then asked what I wanted it for ? She then defaced it, before sending it to me, with a stupid hat and moustache on the photo, I hate having my photo taken ! She did eventually send me the original after weeks of drama.
My ex narc never wanted to take pics together. Claimed he didn’t like taking pics yet he’d post pics of himself n with others on his social media all the time. He didn’t want to take pics with me or acknowledge I even existed. Such an asshole looking back.
How do I understand you. Been there too here. Almost 4 years- after child'th birth. That is why it was bot easy to concentrate on the topic ir getaway easily. Finally, in 2022, released: I don't want any s. Relationships anymore I was glaring: finally it is clear!!! After that: the emotional swing: let me hug you. I didn't mean that. But no further actions taken. I knew nothing of the narcissism back then... Finally, when I started looking for my own apartment to rent:I realised, I want a family with you, I need us. No getting back to the topic within a few weeks. Further: a comment to our relative: I don't like her. She is wearing such an improper clothing at home. The day after, trying to hug me and being asked by me to get away- Why don't you let me? Who am I living with?? Where shall I go... If not for shared custody and lack of a free housing for herself, I would go long time ago. Planning how to make means to get away.
He was my first love and he really took advantage of that, I did not understand why he did this but it made me weak and he smiled when he cause me this pain. Denied all his attempt to hoover me back. I deserve better.
Your videos have been invaluable throughout my journey of co-parenting with a narcissist. Thank you for all that you do and for helping me to understand that it’s not me who is the crazy one. I can’t wait to read your new book. ❤️
The ex a covert narcissist is ADDICTED to terrorize, torment and try to make me squirm! He tries and tries even rt now however I’m ignoring him 100%. While together yes he withheld affection allot versus when we first got together the affection was astronomical. I was duped! I was sucker punched! He has NO capability to truly be affectionate.
@@RebeccaZungEsq I’ve had to submit complaints for cyberbullying to the FBI on him and his friends. Also submitted evidence to state attorney for violating my injunction again. Filed charges on his friend for physically assaulting me AND security is alerted as well as sheriffs everytime im at venues I work at. Have security added double fold for Feb 4th and mar 4th. He shows they will arrest!!!
The withholding affection immediately after they get you on the hook is scary accurate. You're left confused wondering what the heck just happened. Luckily, i caught on and ended it.
I've been married for 20 years to my husband and we've been together for 29 years. I met him when I was 17 years old and he was 21. Well to make it short for about the past 10 years after birth of our 4rth child he has been withholding emotional intimacy. He says I don't deserve to be kissed anymore because of lying about partying with my friends when I was in college. During college he was very controlling so i wouldn't tell him when I went out with friends just to dance. I'm a dancer and it's a passion for me. So recently he has been extremely enraged about it. He hugs me goodbye only when I'm leaving the house with the boys as if to make himself look like a great loving husband in front of the kids. About a year ago my youngest son noticed how he withholds money from me and he stated mommy when I grow up I'm going to give you money all the time. Our oldest daughters have also noticed thing about him they are 21 and 19. We have 4 children. My oldest son is 14 and was just recently granted a birthday party when he turned 14. He goes so far as to not allow me to plan parties for our children. It's getting to the point recently that I suffered with suicidal thoughts from his torture. He's always accusing me of cheating or wanting other men. I've been faithful this whole time. I also cant talk with my Pastor because he and His wife have narcissistic tendancies as well. I don't know what to do besides secrectly plan to disappear with our youngest children and that's not realistic I'm not financially able to leave. I cry all the time and listen to music about God's love for me because what I know about Jesus he withholds nothing and doesn't shame us of our past or accuse us. He also constantly asking me what's wrong but when I share to him how he's making me feel about withholding intimacy he turns it around on me and blames me because of college 22 years ago. And want to know every detail of the parties I cant even recall. I refuse to talk about it because it just makes him more enrage. He says I hurt him and I'm trying to figure out why he even married me if the whole time he believes Im cheating and accusing me of wanting other men. It makes no sense and and I feel like I'm losing my mind. Recently I read about Leah on the Bible and I feel my life mirrors hers in alot of ways. He also has been emotionally involved with female coworkers 3 that I can name. 2 have visited our church . One actually placed her child in our church camp and was extra flirty on a trip to Disney World and he admitted to meeti her on a Sat to change her tire and kissed her but denies now that that happened it was when my second daughter was a year old. The other recently visited our church and he walked all the way to her side agter church and embrassed her. I was so ashamed. And he says it was nothing. I never felt so hurt and when I called him out on it he argued with me about my college days 20 something years ago as to why he did it. I'm so over him now and I'm battling regret thinking I made a wrong life choice. Also his older brother 30 years ago was stabbed by his girlfriend at the age of 20. His brother was physically abusive to her so the police did not arrest the woman. His brother died and he was there. So I feel his issues and hate towards me are a result of that trauma I also believe he is stuck me tally as a 18 year old when that happened. He will be 49 this year. I have mentioned this to him and he gets really upset and angered and says I lack compassion but he is still grieving its hard for me to grieve his brother because I never met him. When I met my husband he was stalking the girlfriend who killed the brother and had lots of rage toward her I convinced him to stop doing that and he did. So there were so many red flags but a 17 year old is too too blind to see these things then. I know I made my bed in hell but God is with me. All I do is pray and he also has asked me to stop praying and calling on Jesus name. This has been exhausting just reflecting on all this pain.
It would be a good idea for you to find another church with kinder pastor and wife. If you can't go to your pastor to look for help, you're in the wrong church. In not talking about the denominational, but that particular church. Hi OnLive and find one close by, and read the reviews, try it, go to the pastor with a small issue, to text how he deals with you. You deserve better, pay the game life I did, until my kids were 18 and of to college, because I wouldn't want have left that evil person alone with my young, innocent children. So, I divorced myself emotionally, stopped expecting things from him. I no longer cared, and I lived that way for a while - So, I no live saw him as my partner, husband, on my side. I just survived, played the game like a video game. I kept learning about narcissists, and keep strong. Then be prepared, with enough money to retain a lawyer, and leave, never to return. Good luck!!! 🌷
It's not fair to bring up the past constantly and never let it go. You are in a battle and there is no longer love. When it gets to this stage, one is actually getting dopamine from engaging in this conflict. They can't stop themselves. Somethings got to give. I'm glad the Lord is looking after you. Maybe the right therapist could help you navigate these waters.
@@chelly77 you are valuable & loved- pls go to a women’s abuse center in private & learn & get support to strengthen you . I am so sorry , I also was tormented & nearly destroyed by one of these minions of satan- knowledge is power here, & din’t let go of your faith, never stop using Jesus name! You deserve support , please don’t let this lethal parasite deprive you of the life God gave you, and your kids need you . 🙏🏼
I'm a very good woman I'm a empath and he is always trying to pick a fight and gaslight me and holler and curse at me then he comes home and he is so sweet and loving but I have my garden up and I'm aware of his ways thank you Rebecca for helping me with this
I know the feeling! Get out ASAP! Don't waste another minute of your precious life! Don't lose your own sanity, and you will every second you stay there. Take it from me, I stayed for 40 years, abuse only gets worse.
I have been there. I divorced after 27 months of the nightmare. I was sleeping with enemy, whoa it was too crazy. But I free myself with the help GOD and never looked back. Take care of yourself 💯💯💯.
Thanks for providing these helpful videos.I always addressed my covert narc wife with a term of endearment, while she would just call me by my first name 90% of the time. She methodically increased the excuses to avoid sex to the point of total physical abandonment. The process was ridiculous with me staying up for hours attempting foreplay, waiting for that "maybe later" to happen, foolishly trying to gently out argue the "is that all you want me for," or listening to some form of criticism or absurd accusation as she made it clear she was going to just lay there and make sure there would be no moment of intimacy and I would just give up trying, As the 20 yrs got worse and I got more mentally exhausted of being the only one investing or attempting intimacy, we have three children and feel deeply entrenched in a toxic marriage, I no longer even try and sure enough....she has not attempted or made any gestures of intimacy towards me. I'm trying to understand how this is possible as I work from home and know that she's not cheating, how can she not have any physical/intimacy desires. Looking back, it was always me who initiated all intimacy except for when she was trapping me (at the very beginning)....I can't believe I didn't have enough self-esteem, awareness, or wisdom to see it earlier...I truly blamed myself and was made to feel at fault for a massive amount of her unhappiness even though logically that unhappiness was already there when I met her...After all, I would be her loving hero and everything would turn out wonderful....never thought that I was being manipulated and set up to be used for so many years. I don't think it's healthy to be like this, anything I care about is dismissed, all joys seem to get critiqued into misery, zero praise and zero encouragement (not sure how I've survived this long), I'm responsible for everything, so many things are challenged and second guessed, to have supported her for all these years and to have no trust is painful, and I'm seeing significant signs of emotional damage/changes to my daughters. Now that is also being blamed on me.... Not sure how to untangle this mess...
Oh, man... I fully sympathize with you. What a painful situation. I admire your awareness of all that is going on, and your honesty with yourself and with us here. Thank you for sharing your story. I wish for you to find true love with someone new, someone caring, someone who will like you for who you are, exactly how you are. ❤
I have been in your situation and she will never change, nor will she ever give you a sincere apology. I tried therapy and eventually realized she wouldn't change. Do yourself a favor and get out as soon as you can. Leave and have minimal contact with her. It isn't an easy thing to do but it is the only way you can heal.
I have been in your situation and she will never change, nor will she ever give you a sincere apology. I tried therapy and eventually realized she wouldn't change. Do yourself a favor and get out as soon as you can. Leave and have minimal contact with her. It isn't an easy thing to do but it is the only way you can heal.
When they withhold emotion from you, then blame you for being hurt because you're upsetting THEM, but they've been having an emotional affair (as far as i can tell, could be more tmh) with a co-worker the whole time, giving the affectionate behavior to them. While telling you "i just can't care about your emotions right now, I have to take care of the people I love"... just me? 😔
I deserve better!!! Withholding sex was the last straw! I thought it might be a prostate disfunction on his part -then I found he was just being mean. 😢
It is about power / control of the other person. Had some of that stuff done to me. I got professional help and gained the knowledge and tools, that way I could make an informed decision that was in my best interests. Thank goodness I recorded a lot of stuff and played that - once the people I hired to "check me out" heard those recordings, they knew straight away what was going on. If they had not heard those recording, I would have got the wrong information and help.
I deserve soooo much better! Also beware It is "Mine" Me syndrome. As well as they claim that they bought this and that when you obviously have a receipt on the item.
Wow my husband is the same way ( my car ,my house,my things . He has a building full of expensive bought things for him . I might get something to ( cook) with on my birthday. What a joke!!!
I'm crying listening to this because it's my entire relationship being told to me by someone that doesnt know me. The things that are driving me crazy and sending me into the worst depression ive ever had and its all just a game ro someone. I believe im a magnet for narcissists truely. I found out way to late what a narcissist truly was and the things they do. I didnt understand what was happening and lost my baby to this nutjob and have been fighting for my 1 and only child for the past 2 years. It amazes me the things her father says and does and people just believe him and im the devil but none of it is true. I finally feel comfortable enough to take a chance with someone just to find ive met far worse and I hadnt seen a thing yet. No one has ever made me feel bad about myself or doubt who i am. No one has ever made me feel like im fat or ugly cant do anything right and just so unwanted until this guy that started off great. Now i havent seen him in days, he doesn't touch me, we are sleeping different rooms, he lies lies les, and im crazy and being clingy, BUT if im down to bring a friend then he's all for it. Like im just not good enough alone. Im in a nightmare that just wont end.
Walk away. Choose you. Choose elf love and self respect. Break away and heal. You can do it. You are worth it. Don't say anything. Just make plans and do it.
I am going to walk away and l am 76. It's heartbreaking. My Narc husband has cancer. He wants to live with me still, altogether he is vile to me. I have no strength to fight
@juliettecrossley4864 I forgot all about this comment, but reading it just brought back so many negative things I was dealing with then and still to this day. Now I'm simply an atm he doesn't touch and really has no respect for. Unfortunately his bestfriend is worse than him and I have to deal with his bs as well. I just want to be left alone. I have no more feelings for these people. His bestfriend pretended to be am amazing friend and support to me but come to find out that's thee true demon. People can't be this nuts it's amazing.
I loved that analogy of the kid torturing a worm, I once took a lighter to an earthworm to see what would happen. I felt so horrible watching wringing and writhing in pain. I never did that again. I do not know how people can get off watching something innocent get hurt. Thank you for this video!!
I deserve better. My Mothee deserved better too. I believe my Father is a covert narc. He withheld sex for 19 years and that stalemate only ended after Mum died. He was keen to start dating again on the first anniversary of her death.
I’m currently with a narcissist and I am at my limit. I did not know he was a narcissist until after being together for four years and getting married now I’m with a man that I did not sign up to be with wondered for years. Why can’t my husband just do the things that he knows will make me happy why if I say up he says down if I say left, he says right This man did everything in his power and still does the thing that’s gonna disappoint me rather than the thing that’s gonna make me happy. Until right now I finally get it. I already knew that he enjoyed driving me crazy and I think this is all part of it. He loves seeing me. He loves seeing me lose my mind. I’ve only listen to the first thing you said, but I can also tell you that a narcissist they withhold sex, intimacy, really just any form of empathy, caring and I would ask my husband why don’t you wanna have sex with me and he would never give me a reason ever which made me feel unwanted and disgusting and stupid for being turned down constantly. I’ve stayed with this man through so much abuse, I need to get out of this relationship
I feel like I'm the only one you can perfectly understand your every word and I am so greatful I understand most people can not recognize a genius when they see one and you definitely are one as I have said before
I deserve better!!!! I've been through it all. I just recently discovered that my wife of 18 years is a narcissist. I didn't understand why she would treat me so bad, withhold intimacy and sex. She would be just horrible to me, wouldn't ever talk to me about anything serious in regards to us. We have two children together and she's left me on seven different occasions without even letting me know where she's at or who she's with. I'm sure that she's made everyone believe that I'm just a horrible person but infact it's just the opposite!! I'm crushed . I've trusted her when she would leave our family and be gone seems like forever. I always felt like she was cheating on me with someone else but now I'm finding out that narcissist always cheat on you with multiple people. I'm beyond sick. All those years down the drain.
He withheld everything. Many secrets. Even stopped speaking. The more I begged - the more silence I got. I cut him off a year ago. I didn't answer his texts , even some calls. I wonder how he liked it !
I just love this woman. I wish that she would adopt me. However, for her to have this much knowledge of narcissistic behavior, her life must have been a nightmare. Every word out of her mouth is pure gold and is absolute truth. Thank God for people like her or else my life would be a "complete" nightmare. I once read that any confrontation with a narcissist is going to be a bloodbath and they go for complete annihilation. They just don't want to win - they want to destroy you. So, after I read that, I mentally have to prepare that I'm going into battle and it's going to be complete annihilation - a bloodbath so to speak. And recently I have developed my own strategy for dealing with the narcs in my life and that is a combination of complements and criticism. So I force myself to find things to complement them on for 3 or 4 encounters straight. And then I sting them with an encounter filled with criticism and sarcasm. Then I go back to complementing them. Is this manipulation? You bet and they deserve every once of it. It's a way to keep them off kilter so that I can get what I want instead of it being the other way around. They are so happy when I'm complementing them that they usually give me what I want. Just remember - these people are not human. They gave that up a long time ago and decided to go with the lazy, immature way of thinking. They say that the brain is plastic and how you think influences how your brain becomes. Well, in my opinion, these people are self made vampires. Dear Ms. Zung - please never, never take down this video. When my grandchildren get older, they will need to see this.
Rebecca is awesome, I agree! How are you able to find something to compliment these creatures on?? Hahaha You’re giving them a combo of positive & negative reinforcement. Yes, that’s manipulation. Savage tho. 👏 It may feel good at the moment but you don’t wanna stoop down to their level. They’re diabolical. You’re still giving them your energy, don’t do that. That’s what they want. I’ve unfortunately have had decades of experience with these delusional things. I’m beyond over them. They’ve caused me so much pain & damage. I just don’t care about them anymore. I’ve thankfully learned what’s up with them. EMPTY. If one verbally starts with me I just walk away, or give a look 👀 like mmmhmmm, & continue doing what I was. My favorite is to act like I didn’t hear them. Lol 🤷♀️
Varykno..... how does doing what your doing make you any better than the narcissist you are describing? Why be how they are being? In my opinion.. That makes you look just as bad as they are being.. Just take the high road don't Stoop to thier level of how they treat people.. Take care..
@@carolmahaffey53 Carol - I don't think you have really been in a relationship with a hard core narcissist. There is more at stake here than just looks. There is the welfare of grandchildren who are vulnerable and helpless. Just getting them to the doctor and keeping them safe is a Herculean effort. Although it's great to fight fire with water, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
Thank you. I needed to hear this. Although I just finished living and going through this. I learned this after the fact. I did exactly what your video suggested without me knowing it. And I watching and hearing this put a smile on my face cuz I did the best and right thing. All this is all true. I'm am an a survival empath testimony.
And soon after that when you stop paying attention to him, I decided to open up a I’m monarch butterfly habitat and my time went to that and he just cried telling everybody. Oh he just suffered for five years well that’s because it was narcissistic injury. That’s what it was.
Thank you for your insight/wisdom. I’m exiting a five year stint with a narcissist. I don’t just throw that word around. Once you experience someone like this you understand the seriousness of “narcissist”. I still have two months before moving out. I’d rather leave asap, but not possible. I’m concerned about an escalation of her tactics as the date gets closer and she sees I’m serious. Right now her tactics are subtle, but I know how far she’s gone before. What I don’t know is how far she’s willing to go. Praying for a way to have my life back without losing it. LiveRightToday
Best thing is to break the trauma bond and find a supportive system of trusted friends and carefully selected new friends. Thoroughly enjoy your time with them ( it drives my narc husband mad when I talk and laugh a lot with my friends on the phone ). But keep them away from your home or your 🐊 will swallow them alive, ie steal them and turn them against you. Narcs are extremely good at this.
No. 2 Withhold . Bingo Rebecca. !! I was waiting for this. " Documents" . They withhold DOCUMENTS ,messages , Information etc. As a tool or leverage Against you.
You hit every nail on the head! It SUCKS! Try being the "bread winner", then becoming Disabled with this going on.... It gets UGLY! Almost 40 years of it, 10+ being Disabled.
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..and sometimes you can hear their Evil Laugh...I think they share cos' they think we're not listening!!!
ha ha Oh contraire!!!!
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Children need to be educated about this in schools to prevent them wasting their time and lives with these vile people
That would be amazing! (I wish I knew then what I know now. If I had learned about narcissists at a young age, then it wouldn't have gone on for my whole life with my narcisstic mother.)
The problem with that is most of the world that is in power are narcissists. 😬
Right? Narcs 101 🤣
AGREE 👍 💯
I see this comment on almost every video. I've even left one myself. I'm keen to start discussing steps and plans to make this a reality
I think being alone seems to be a better option.
It is!
100%
Yes, I am starting to agree with this sentiment after this experience! She her illusion had my heart hurting. But she was clearly lying and telling half truths lacking the details for sure! It was always something was off when interacting with her.
I’d give anything to live alone. 😩
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I'm very blessed to live alone and not feel alone. It's a great place to be in. I hope that very soon, you'll be in the same position.
They withhold to bait you by keeping you confused and in fog until you become frustrated . They’ll hold that frustration against you and say to you and everyone else you’re confrontational or argumentative
Stay strong! ❤
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Reactive abuse. When they provoke a reaction from you then shame you for your reaction.
Thank you for validating my experience. He gradually and increasingly withheld all 5 over the 4 years.
On the bulls eye
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Anytime he sees me happy he literally gets angry. I smile 24/7 😁
i have an illness called major depressive disorder. Its caused by Chronic lyme disease…My narc spouse hates it that HE cannot MAKE ME happy. he literally becomes fits of rage When im crying or having an episode….When Im sad and depressed, it angers him, because OF COURSE its all about HIM, HE did something wrong to MAKE ME depressed….well, not initially, but now that he’s making himself the victim when its ME who is havin a very diff time w/sadness….he is so so so very incredibly SELF CENTERED..SORRY to say, but after 39years, i hate him.
@@1timeslime971 I’m so sorry to hear that. Crazy bc I’ve had untreated Lyme for over 20 years now. It’s in the late disseminated stage. It’s killing us slowly…ppl just don’t understand. We have a systemic infection running rampant in our bodies. I feel for you and pray for you. Looks like you need to take the first opportunity you get and leave this clown. You need some 1 empathetic & understanding. Prayers 🙏🏻💚🙏🏻
That’s so sad
@@1timeslime971you sure it’s depression or is your body rejecting your husband. As soon as I got divorced I never got sick again. Been two years since I caught illnesses or felt pain
So, "he" is a police officer?
They withhold emotional intimacy.
They aren't capable of emotional intimacy
@@liadown9052but they feign it. And then withdraw as a tactic
My god yes.
Yes they do!!!
@@liadown9052 I was told this by a psychologist.
They definitely withhold approval, compliments, commendation, encouragement, forgiveness.
....and companionship.
Baby!!!! This man withheld everything. From sex, affection, attention, money. They withhold any and everything they think will hurt you. Thinking you will come crawling back. I did at first when I didn't know about narcissist. After I learned the game his withholding became my healing. It gave me time to heal and get away from him.
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I fell out of love when he cheated over and over and he lied about everything even stupid stuff like my parents love you ... They actually didn't so why not just say that?
Thank you
I deserve better
Absolutely, me too. I also learned about healthy boundaries and keeping them and wanting "better" for myself! 🙏♥️🇺🇲
All of us deserve better !!
The blood bank is closed... so long Dracula! I deserve better!
@@jeffreyzeiss1326 that’s awesome
1) Narcissists enjoy manipulating and controlling others, including withholding certain things to torment their victims.
2) They withhold affection as a form of punishment and to maintain control in the relationship.
3) Narcissists may withhold the truth or not tell the entire truth, which can include omitting important details.
4) They may withhold sex as a form of control and to torment their partners.
5) Narcissists may withhold resources, such as money, information, or emotional support, as a way to maintain power and control in a situation.
Yes true. Even a parent will withhold. I'll be homeless again soon.
No victim should have to live like that - being tortured by such a creature in a so called 'Relationship.'
Stay strong! ❤
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Your talking to the wall. Doctors lawyers judges marriage councilors friends children NONE OF THEM HAVE A CLUE WHAT and who these monsters are. NARCISSISTS RULE. ITS SCARRY.
I deserve BETTER!
I married a guy who was so sweet and kind. About a year later he started saying things…like threats if I didn’t have sex whenever he wanted then he would divorce me. I thought it was odd because I didn’t ever turn him down. Then it was other threats.
I felt like I was losing my mind.
I started Therapy and started learning about Narcissism. That’s when I decided to start threatening him back. I’m still here and with him. And he doesn’t do it to me anymore except on occasion. I own our business that he runs. He knows better now. If he starts acting out I just remind him. He doesn’t like that at all.
These are SICK PEOPLE.
Know the signs before you date or get married!
It’s really a Spiritual problem.
You either belong to GOD
or Satan. Get that straight first and ask God to intervene! 🙏🏻
@@arthurcurry7688 100 thumbs up 👍
Sleep deprivation is another weapon.
Audio warfare, screaming and staring arguments in the night.
My ex used to wake me up in the morning by screaming at the kids.
My narcissist used to do the passive aggressive thing, and sing songs which contain the lyrics of what he was accusing me of doing / saying.
For example, if he thought I was lying to him, he would sing "Send me an Angel"
' Don't tell a lie. Don't be false or untrue it all comes back to you'
@@judicox5559 😭 thank you for taking the time to post this comment bc I've been up for days feel like I'm losing my mind and the neverending whistles of songs to deliver a message and everything of that nature while acting stupid whenever I ask him to stop.... I'm broken bc I know my children probably think I'm crazy but have no clue the torture I'm enduring to protect them... bc when I don't give in he goes after my children and I no longer know why to do
Yes, it is. A systematic way of torturing... And the thing about it is it's specific to you. So no one else even understands or nose what he's doing except the two of you. Even a certain look that he would give me when other people were around to make me react, and sometimes I did. So then it just looks like I was going crazy on him for no reason. And during this time I also had cancer so I was in a lot of pain. Anyway. I had cervical cancer which he used to blame on me saying it was because I had too much sex when I was younger. How insane is that?
But I am so sorry that he visits out upon your children! I had two parents that were diagnosed with MPD in their late '50s early. '60s mother was a covert narcissist and daddy wasn't overt narcissist
The MOST POWERFUL man that ever lived was gentle 95% of the time. He didn't use anyone for $, or anything else, and died for all. Narcissists are the opposite. They are evil.
Amen!
Stay strong! ❤
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Jesus Christ is LORD❤ GBY ALL❤ 🕊 🕊 🕊
Excellent point
I DESERVE MUCH BETTER.
Definitely! 💯💯
Yes we do.
Yes he wouldn't show me any affection. Withheld sex then just laughed and left me crying. Evil . Kicked him out after 6 years of hell . So happy to be free . No man will destroy me again.
Keep up your good work with healing. Thank you for explaining this so others understand that it is not your fault. It's extremely painful and life threatening.
Narcissistic behavior is life threatening. Thank you for waking the true victims of Narcissistic behavior.
Instead of saying "No man" try saying nobody or no person There's plenty of affectionate good men wanting to rattle your bones. IMHO
@@RebeccaLovett-fx9tg you are SO brave❤️
I deserve love. Respect and validation..no compromise
You got this! 💪
Wow,wow,
It hurts me the
More i hear the truth the more it
Hurts.
Hurt. Greive the perceived loss. Move forward. They never existed as you wanted to see them. You'd never chase a snake that bit you, to ask it why. Just know that's what a snake does. Educate yourself, be kind to yourself. Give it time. It gets so much better!❤
I agree so true
@@HazelsMomFurever
Thank you ❤
The narc would not hug me.
Mine wouldn't either!!!
But when you go along without it for so long and don't ask... they get confused when you don’t reciprocate.
6.5 years since I've had a hug from him
I thought it was just me.
Sometimes, wife folds her lips in when i try to kiss her, so i am not kissing her lips....i thought it was maybe because she just put on chapstic or something, but when i asked her about it, she made a nasty remark or something and walked away. Very strange behavior right?
I deserve so much better
😢😢
I can relate to the affection withholding! She love/lust bombed the hell out of me! Then pulled it back the minute I asked some questions about something she was clearly lying about!
That's what my husband did the minute i ?? Him about something he was lying about, I got pushed away.
Yes mines would make it into I was arguing or disrespectful when I asked him any questions...and use it as an excuse to leave..
I'm a behaviorist. Behaviorists are uniquely perturbed by narcissists because we can see this whole other set of Motivating Operations that are governing a separate, unique set of behaviors which include lying, misleading, and withholding the truth. The MO conditions are unique and special to the narcissist's ongoing behavior and perceived needs. Behaviorists see these conditions that lead to the pathological/compulsive lying by narcissists...and it is SO painful to witness
It is painful to be at the receiving end.
They create such confusion they cause you lie to yourself and others.
I definitely need to speak privately with you
Yes!! I am living it. Heartbreaking.
I deserve better than to be tricked, cheated on, lied to, and gaslighted!
I deserve better! Learned I was dating one and didn't realize it till the end putting all the signs together. The love bomb is serious especially if you been single for a while. Be careful in this world, be stronger than them. They hate that!
Exactly! He called me even feminist 😂 thank god I figured it out in less than 2 months.
Psychotherapy saved me 🙏
"I DESERVE BETTER" I truly mean it!!
Gratitude Rebecca for all support, I can see clear now all what I have been through!
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I deserve a much better father!
I deserve better ..
my ex narc is doing this to me atm ..
with hold intimacy !!
how is he ex if withholding intimacy ? Or do you mean ( I hope for your sake ) soon to be ex ?
I have gone thru so much with my nar, it ain't even funny. Actually he taught me how to treat him. Now I'm strong . I always say , who's fooling who. If that make any sense. When he or she going thru there craziness, just repeat the Lord's prayer out loud.
@@cjennings5031 l am a Pagan. What is worrying me is that l yelled 'l hope you die' after months of him torturing me, hitting me, making me crazy crying. THEN a month after l said that he was shockingly diagnosed with advanced lung cancer. He has no hope of recovery.
I am a Pagan HEALER.....not an executioner.
He made my life an absolute HELL on earth. Now l am healing myself. Love to you ALL here. 💕💞💕💞
Is this what is called 'karma' ?
So so so so so so so accurate. It's such a sad truth unfortunately.
Few months ago, I went out of town one weekend w my kids, took them down to the beach.
He called me Fri night to make sure we arrived safely. My kids and I were in the indoor pool area - so it was hard to hear, I told him I’d call him back.
Well…i didn’t call him back until Saturday night.
And WOW…ever since then, he has withdrawn from me.
Like I’m being punished.
I'm going to need a backstory to make a diagnosis :P
how can u be having an affair when u have the kids in tow?
He needs to get a life and give you some space.
Bingo I got hours of texting from him in the early stage ,,,now I am lucky to get any from him even though we are in the same house
I was married for 26 years but he withheld sex for the last 5 or more years. I didn't know what a narsisist was but I learned quickly, and the hard way. I read every book, took every class, and went to counseiing. when I tried to discuss it with him, he admitted that withholding sex was the only way he cuold control me. I left that relationship with no self esteem at all, even thought I'd lost 67 pounds and looked the best I had since high school. In my opinion, a man that would treat his wife that way is the cruelest and most evil person on earth. I had opportunities to cheat but I didn't. My reputation and relationship with the Lord meant more to me than getting back at him. He lost a good deal. I was June Cleaver in training and treated him better than he deserved. You are brave, you are beautiful.
You are sooo right!!!Sounds like my soon to be ex. I am sick of it, its Wednesday and because he is mad, no affection, no communication, no sex, nothing since Sunday 😢. I am looking to move, almost 6 years of this and i am over it.
Yep. Mine has withheld intimacy for months. None in over 6 months.
Thay are full of rage that' s why they try to make you emotional and insane. They like negativity and conflicts because they are full of it and can' t stand your positivity or peace.
My parents. But they shot themselves in foot. I am living proof if you hang around narcissists and continue going back to them you will lose just about everything. Even when dealing with narcissistic parents. Same.
I felt duped and it took years of my life to figure it out, as I tried to explain to family.
I left and I deserve better.
Totally! 💯
I’m thinking of leaving too
I left 2 weeks ago,he came into a win $$$ so this is my perfect chance to get away.
@@Milarniworld I hope you leave. I felt so much better!! No more sadness, fear, anxiety, feelings of worthlessness. Good luck.
Yes like when they cheat on you multiable times do not take it personal 😮👌
My husband constantly cheated on me...I DESERVE BETTER CAUSE I'M A GREAT PERSON
You reminded me when I tried to initiate dance with my narcissist husband and he withdrew like I was a hot flame.
Another one is withholding really nice pictures/photos of you, and especially if they have social media, posting the bad ones (by comparison) instead.
Omg, my partner did exactly this to me ,only a few weeks ago, she took a rather casual photo of me in a local bar, refused to send it to me, then asked what I wanted it for ?
She then defaced it, before sending it to me, with a stupid hat and moustache on the photo, I hate having my photo taken ! She did eventually send me the original after weeks of drama.
Exactly! They are so jealous and petty like a 12 yo teenager (perhaps more like a giant toddler) but meet one, you’ve met them all!
My ex narc never wanted to take pics together. Claimed he didn’t like taking pics yet he’d post pics of himself n with others on his social media all the time. He didn’t want to take pics with me or acknowledge I even existed. Such an asshole looking back.
This all resonates..the with holding of sex was the hardest thing I've ever been through
I deserve better
How do I understand you. Been there too here. Almost 4 years- after child'th birth. That is why it was bot easy to concentrate on the topic ir getaway easily. Finally, in 2022, released: I don't want any s. Relationships anymore
I was glaring: finally it is clear!!! After that: the emotional swing: let me hug you. I didn't mean that.
But no further actions taken. I knew nothing of the narcissism back then...
Finally, when I started looking for my own apartment to rent:I realised, I want a family with you, I need us.
No getting back to the topic within a few weeks.
Further: a comment to our relative: I don't like her. She is wearing such an improper clothing at home.
The day after, trying to hug me and being asked by me to get away- Why don't you let me? Who am I living with?? Where shall I go...
If not for shared custody and lack of a free housing for herself, I would go long time ago.
Planning how to make means to get away.
It is so soul crushing. Then you find out they are cheating.
THEY ARE JEALOUSE. ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Mine withheld. EVERYTHING.
Y thing
All so true, "it's all about respect!"
Agree! What was your favorite part of the video?
@@RebeccaZungEsq narcissists hates the word “respect”. It triggers them somehow.
For me... LOVE , Affection, intimacy, Validation and support
He was my first love and he really took advantage of that, I did not understand why he did this but it made me weak and he smiled when he cause me this pain. Denied all his attempt to hoover me back. I deserve better.
Stay strong 💯🙌
"I deserve better " and I told him that 2 months before I walked away from him.
Wow this definitely was my last relationship! I finally went no contact. I Deserve Better!!!!!!!!!
Your videos have been invaluable throughout my journey of co-parenting with a narcissist. Thank you for all that you do and for helping me to understand that it’s not me who is the crazy one. I can’t wait to read your new book. ❤️
Glad you found them helpful! Keep SLAYing! ❤
I deserve some who knows HOW they can take care OF THEMSELVES.
I deserve better. Thx for the reminders helping me to stay strong. No contact.
Rebecca, You are always so spot on. You are a godsend. Gratitude!
You are so welcome! What is one point that you start using today?
For Sure.
I deserve much better😊!
True!! What is something that you are grateful for? 🙌
I changed my ex narcs name to i deserve better in my phone so whenever i was tempted to unblock her i thought twice
I'm doing this NOW!!! Thank you!
Wow! I like that!
Why don't you just delete their phone number?
Because YOU are a narcissist and that's why you convinced yourself that you "liked" her.
The ex a covert narcissist is ADDICTED to terrorize, torment and try to make me squirm! He tries and tries even rt now however I’m ignoring him 100%. While together yes he withheld affection allot versus when we first got together the affection was astronomical. I was duped! I was sucker punched! He has NO capability to truly be affectionate.
And its only going to be worse
Do you have a good support system in place?
@@RebeccaZungEsq I’ve had to submit complaints for cyberbullying to the FBI on him and his friends. Also submitted evidence to state attorney for violating my injunction again. Filed charges on his friend for physically assaulting me AND security is alerted as well as sheriffs everytime im at venues I work at. Have security added double fold for Feb 4th and mar 4th. He shows they will arrest!!!
The withholding affection immediately after they get you on the hook is scary accurate. You're left confused wondering what the heck just happened. Luckily, i caught on and ended it.
I've been married for 20 years to my husband and we've been together for 29 years. I met him when I was 17 years old and he was 21. Well to make it short for about the past 10 years after birth of our 4rth child he has been withholding emotional intimacy. He says I don't deserve to be kissed anymore because of lying about partying with my friends when I was in college. During college he was very controlling so i wouldn't tell him when I went out with friends just to dance. I'm a dancer and it's a passion for me. So recently he has been extremely enraged about it. He hugs me goodbye only when I'm leaving the house with the boys as if to make himself look like a great loving husband in front of the kids. About a year ago my youngest son noticed how he withholds money from me and he stated mommy when I grow up I'm going to give you money all the time. Our oldest daughters have also noticed thing about him they are 21 and 19. We have 4 children. My oldest son is 14 and was just recently granted a birthday party when he turned 14. He goes so far as to not allow me to plan parties for our children. It's getting to the point recently that I suffered with suicidal thoughts from his torture. He's always accusing me of cheating or wanting other men. I've been faithful this whole time. I also cant talk with my Pastor because he and His wife have narcissistic tendancies as well. I don't know what to do besides secrectly plan to disappear with our youngest children and that's not realistic I'm not financially able to leave. I cry all the time and listen to music about God's love for me because what I know about Jesus he withholds nothing and doesn't shame us of our past or accuse us. He also constantly asking me what's wrong but when I share to him how he's making me feel about withholding intimacy he turns it around on me and blames me because of college 22 years ago. And want to know every detail of the parties I cant even recall. I refuse to talk about it because it just makes him more enrage. He says I hurt him and I'm trying to figure out why he even married me if the whole time he believes Im cheating and accusing me of wanting other men. It makes no sense and and I feel like I'm losing my mind. Recently I read about Leah on the Bible and I feel my life mirrors hers in alot of ways. He also has been emotionally involved with female coworkers 3 that I can name. 2 have visited our church . One actually placed her child in our church camp and was extra flirty on a trip to Disney World and he admitted to meeti her on a Sat to change her tire and kissed her but denies now that that happened it was when my second daughter was a year old. The other recently visited our church and he walked all the way to her side agter church and embrassed her. I was so ashamed. And he says it was nothing. I never felt so hurt and when I called him out on it he argued with me about my college days 20 something years ago as to why he did it. I'm so over him now and I'm battling regret thinking I made a wrong life choice. Also his older brother 30 years ago was stabbed by his girlfriend at the age of 20. His brother was physically abusive to her so the police did not arrest the woman. His brother died and he was there. So I feel his issues and hate towards me are a result of that trauma I also believe he is stuck me tally as a 18 year old when that happened. He will be 49 this year. I have mentioned this to him and he gets really upset and angered and says I lack compassion but he is still grieving its hard for me to grieve his brother because I never met him. When I met my husband he was stalking the girlfriend who killed the brother and had lots of rage toward her I convinced him to stop doing that and he did. So there were so many red flags but a 17 year old is too too blind to see these things then. I know I made my bed in hell but God is with me. All I do is pray and he also has asked me to stop praying and calling on Jesus name. This has been exhausting just reflecting on all this pain.
It would be a good idea for you to find another church with kinder pastor and wife. If you can't go to your pastor to look for help, you're in the wrong church. In not talking about the denominational, but that particular church. Hi OnLive and find one close by, and read the reviews, try it, go to the pastor with a small issue, to text how he deals with you. You deserve better, pay the game life I did, until my kids were 18 and of to college, because I wouldn't want have left that evil person alone with my young, innocent children. So, I divorced myself emotionally, stopped expecting things from him. I no longer cared, and I lived that way for a while - So, I no live saw him as my partner, husband, on my side. I just survived, played the game like a video game. I kept learning about narcissists, and keep strong. Then be prepared, with enough money to retain a lawyer, and leave, never to return. Good luck!!! 🌷
Sis, please get a therapist and learn how to use the information you’re learning as leverage.
It's not fair to bring up the past constantly and never let it go. You are in a battle and there is no longer love. When it gets to this stage, one is actually getting dopamine from engaging in this conflict. They can't stop themselves. Somethings got to give. I'm glad the Lord is looking after you. Maybe the right therapist could help you navigate these waters.
Be strong..be positive, your life is precious
@@chelly77 you are valuable & loved- pls go to a women’s abuse center in private & learn & get support to strengthen you . I am so sorry , I also was tormented & nearly destroyed by one of these minions of satan- knowledge is power here, & din’t let go of your faith, never stop using Jesus name! You deserve support , please don’t let this lethal parasite deprive you of the life God gave you, and your kids need you . 🙏🏼
I DESERVE BETTER! I RECEIVE IT NOW! THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU REBECCA. GOD BLESS YOU!
I'm a very good woman I'm a empath and he is always trying to pick a fight and gaslight me and holler and curse at me then he comes home and he is so sweet and loving but I have my garden up and I'm aware of his ways thank you Rebecca for helping me with this
This video, absolutely one hundred percent accurate! Thank you 🎯 💯
I went from a bride to an enemy in one night.😂😂😂😂
Me too. I went to nothing the day I got married.
@@ruthslater6364 It’s their loss not ours. We still have our self respect and dignity even though they devalued us in their eyes.
@sheilamusker-lovett4472 yes, you do.
I know the feeling! Get out ASAP! Don't waste another minute of your precious life! Don't lose your own sanity, and you will every second you stay there. Take it from me, I stayed for 40 years, abuse only gets worse.
I have been there. I divorced after 27 months of the nightmare. I was sleeping with enemy, whoa it was too crazy. But I free myself with the help GOD and never looked back. Take care of yourself 💯💯💯.
I have deserved better my whole adult life. Maybe I'll get it now. Raised to be an empath, others first!
How are you doing now? Hope you're feeling well and getting your power back! 💪
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Thanks for providing these helpful videos.I always addressed my covert narc wife with a term of endearment, while she would just call me by my first name 90% of the time. She methodically increased the excuses to avoid sex to the point of total physical abandonment. The process was ridiculous with me staying up for hours attempting foreplay, waiting for that "maybe later" to happen, foolishly trying to gently out argue the "is that all you want me for," or listening to some form of criticism or absurd accusation as she made it clear she was going to just lay there and make sure there would be no moment of intimacy and I would just give up trying, As the 20 yrs got worse and I got more mentally exhausted of being the only one investing or attempting intimacy, we have three children and feel deeply entrenched in a toxic marriage, I no longer even try and sure enough....she has not attempted or made any gestures of intimacy towards me. I'm trying to understand how this is possible as I work from home and know that she's not cheating, how can she not have any physical/intimacy desires. Looking back, it was always me who initiated all intimacy except for when she was trapping me (at the very beginning)....I can't believe I didn't have enough self-esteem, awareness, or wisdom to see it earlier...I truly blamed myself and was made to feel at fault for a massive amount of her unhappiness even though logically that unhappiness was already there when I met her...After all, I would be her loving hero and everything would turn out wonderful....never thought that I was being manipulated and set up to be used for so many years. I don't think it's healthy to be like this, anything I care about is dismissed, all joys seem to get critiqued into misery, zero praise and zero encouragement (not sure how I've survived this long), I'm responsible for everything, so many things are challenged and second guessed, to have supported her for all these years and to have no trust is painful, and I'm seeing significant signs of emotional damage/changes to my daughters. Now that is also being blamed on me.... Not sure how to untangle this mess...
You need a therapist to speak to and come up with a plan, to help you set boundaries with your wife.
Oh, man... I fully sympathize with you.
What a painful situation.
I admire your awareness of all that is going on, and your honesty with yourself and with us here.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I wish for you to find true love with someone new, someone caring, someone who will like you for who you are, exactly how you are.
❤
I have been in your situation and she will never change, nor will she ever give you a sincere apology. I tried therapy and eventually realized she wouldn't change. Do yourself a favor and get out as soon as you can. Leave and have minimal contact with her. It isn't an easy thing to do but it is the only way you can heal.
I have been in your situation and she will never change, nor will she ever give you a sincere apology. I tried therapy and eventually realized she wouldn't change. Do yourself a favor and get out as soon as you can. Leave and have minimal contact with her. It isn't an easy thing to do but it is the only way you can heal.
When they withhold emotion from you, then blame you for being hurt because you're upsetting THEM, but they've been having an emotional affair (as far as i can tell, could be more tmh) with a co-worker the whole time, giving the affectionate behavior to them. While telling you "i just can't care about your emotions right now, I have to take care of the people I love"... just me? 😔
I deserve better!!!
Withholding sex was the last straw! I thought it might be a prostate disfunction on his part -then I found he was just being mean. 😢
Hia Rebbeca 💕yes they love to minipulate and bully! No more! I am stronger now and forever! 🙏❤️❤️❤️
I will tell you up front. #1 is information needed to make vital decisions! There is the lies of omission.
All this happened to me. Every single thing you talked about was spot on.
They will definitely try to provoke you at work to do something stupid.
I DESERVE BETTER!!
It is about power / control of the other person. Had some of that stuff done to me. I got professional help and gained the knowledge and tools, that way I could make an informed decision that was in my best interests. Thank goodness I recorded a lot of stuff and played that - once the people I hired to "check me out" heard those recordings, they knew straight away what was going on. If they had not heard those recording, I would have got the wrong information and help.
And theri lack of security and control of their own doings and responsibility, even to themselves..🙏
I DESERVE BETTER!!!!
Spot on. Thank you for your great observations and advice. God bless you❤
I deserve better 💜
Totally!
Yes you do! NAMAslay!!
I deserve soooo much better!
Also beware It is "Mine" Me syndrome. As well as they claim that they bought this and that when you obviously have a receipt on the item.
Wow my husband is the same way ( my car ,my house,my things . He has a building full of expensive bought things for him . I might get something to ( cook) with on my birthday. What a joke!!!
People are All users and abusers so I don’t care about people! The more people I meet, the More I miss my Dog!
There are people who are this way, but not everyone.
I deserve better
Totally! What is something that you are grateful for?
Yes you do!
@@RebeccaZungEsqI’m grateful for Rebecca zung.
We all deserve better
Mine withholds sexually constantly and sonetimes affection, then when i ask whats the problem? He says i love causinc drama. This can go on for weeks.
I'm crying listening to this because it's my entire relationship being told to me by someone that doesnt know me. The things that are driving me crazy and sending me into the worst depression ive ever had and its all just a game ro someone. I believe im a magnet for narcissists truely. I found out way to late what a narcissist truly was and the things they do. I didnt understand what was happening and lost my baby to this nutjob and have been fighting for my 1 and only child for the past 2 years. It amazes me the things her father says and does and people just believe him and im the devil but none of it is true. I finally feel comfortable enough to take a chance with someone just to find ive met far worse and I hadnt seen a thing yet. No one has ever made me feel bad about myself or doubt who i am. No one has ever made me feel like im fat or ugly cant do anything right and just so unwanted until this guy that started off great. Now i havent seen him in days, he doesn't touch me, we are sleeping different rooms, he lies lies les, and im crazy and being clingy, BUT if im down to bring a friend then he's all for it. Like im just not good enough alone. Im in a nightmare that just wont end.
Walk away. Choose you. Choose elf love and self respect. Break away and heal. You can do it. You are worth it. Don't say anything. Just make plans and do it.
I am going to walk away and l am 76. It's heartbreaking. My Narc husband has cancer. He wants to live with me still, altogether he is vile to me. I have no strength to fight
Victorious, maybe we could both walk away
@juliettecrossley4864 I forgot all about this comment, but reading it just brought back so many negative things I was dealing with then and still to this day. Now I'm simply an atm he doesn't touch and really has no respect for. Unfortunately his bestfriend is worse than him and I have to deal with his bs as well. I just want to be left alone. I have no more feelings for these people. His bestfriend pretended to be am amazing friend and support to me but come to find out that's thee true demon. People can't be this nuts it's amazing.
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They think that you think like they think, and if they think you dont think like they think, they think your a sucker/their supply.
My hypervigilance is nuts because of this.
I deserve better! Thanks for the reminder!
I loved that analogy of the kid torturing a worm, I once took a lighter to an earthworm to see what would happen.
I felt so horrible watching wringing and writhing in pain. I never did that again. I do not know how people can get off watching something innocent get hurt.
Thank you for this video!!
I deserve better!! One full year of no dating , no belonging to anyone but myself and take time to heal.
I deserve better. My Mothee deserved better too. I believe my Father is a covert narc. He withheld sex for 19 years and that stalemate only ended after Mum died. He was keen to start dating again on the first anniversary of her death.
I’m currently with a narcissist and I am at my limit. I did not know he was a narcissist until after being together for four years and getting married now I’m with a man that I did not sign up to be with wondered for years. Why can’t my husband just do the things that he knows will make me happy why if I say up he says down if I say left, he says right This man did everything in his power and still does the thing that’s gonna disappoint me rather than the thing that’s gonna make me happy. Until right now I finally get it. I already knew that he enjoyed driving me crazy and I think this is all part of it. He loves seeing me. He loves seeing me lose my mind. I’ve only listen to the first thing you said, but I can also tell you that a narcissist they withhold sex, intimacy, really just any form of empathy, caring and I would ask my husband why don’t you wanna have sex with me and he would never give me a reason ever which made me feel unwanted and disgusting and stupid for being turned down constantly. I’ve stayed with this man through so much abuse, I need to get out of this relationship
Yes we deserve better.
Totally!! What is one win you had this week?
I feel like I'm the only one you can perfectly understand your every word and I am so greatful I understand most people can not recognize a genius when they see one and you definitely are one as I have said before
I deserve better!!!! I've been through it all. I just recently discovered that my wife of 18 years is a narcissist. I didn't understand why she would treat me so bad, withhold intimacy and sex. She would be just horrible to me, wouldn't ever talk to me about anything serious in regards to us. We have two children together and she's left me on seven different occasions without even letting me know where she's at or who she's with. I'm sure that she's made everyone believe that I'm just a horrible person but infact it's just the opposite!! I'm crushed . I've trusted her when she would leave our family and be gone seems like forever. I always felt like she was cheating on me with someone else but now I'm finding out that narcissist always cheat on you with multiple people. I'm beyond sick. All those years down the drain.
I Deserve Better!!!!
Yes you do!! Keep SLAYing! ❤
I DEFINITELY deserve better! Eyes wide opened in the last 24 hours
You are the best! You changed my life!
Happy to help! What is something that you are grateful for?
He withheld everything. Many secrets. Even stopped speaking. The more I begged - the more silence I got. I cut him off a year ago. I didn't answer his texts , even some calls. I wonder how he liked it !
I deserve so much better!!!
I just love this woman. I wish that she would adopt me. However, for her to have this much knowledge of narcissistic behavior, her life must have been a nightmare. Every word out of her mouth is pure gold and is absolute truth. Thank God for people like her or else my life would be a "complete" nightmare. I once read that any confrontation with a narcissist is going to be a bloodbath and they go for complete annihilation. They just don't want to win - they want to destroy you. So, after I read that, I mentally have to prepare that I'm going into battle and it's going to be complete annihilation - a bloodbath so to speak. And recently I have developed my own strategy for dealing with the narcs in my life and that is a combination of complements and criticism. So I force myself to find things to complement them on for 3 or 4 encounters straight. And then I sting them with an encounter filled with criticism and sarcasm. Then I go back to complementing them. Is this manipulation? You bet and they deserve every once of it. It's a way to keep them off kilter so that I can get what I want instead of it being the other way around. They are so happy when I'm complementing them that they usually give me what I want. Just remember - these people are not human. They gave that up a long time ago and decided to go with the lazy, immature way of thinking. They say that the brain is plastic and how you think influences how your brain becomes. Well, in my opinion, these people are self made vampires. Dear Ms. Zung - please never, never take down this video. When my grandchildren get older, they will need to see this.
I appreciate your kind words. You got this! Keep SLAYing Babe! 😊🙌
Rebecca is awesome, I agree!
How are you able to find something to compliment these creatures on?? Hahaha
You’re giving them a combo of positive & negative reinforcement. Yes, that’s manipulation. Savage tho. 👏
It may feel good at the moment but you don’t wanna stoop down to their level. They’re diabolical.
You’re still giving them your energy, don’t do that. That’s what they want.
I’ve unfortunately have had decades of experience with these delusional things.
I’m beyond over them. They’ve caused me so much pain & damage. I just don’t care about them anymore. I’ve thankfully learned what’s up with them. EMPTY.
If one verbally starts with me I just walk away, or give a look 👀 like mmmhmmm, & continue doing what I was.
My favorite is to act like I didn’t hear them. Lol 🤷♀️
Varykno..... how does doing what your doing make you any better than the narcissist you are describing? Why be how they are being? In my opinion.. That makes you look just as bad as they are being..
Just take the high road don't
Stoop to thier level of how they treat people..
Take care..
@@carolmahaffey53 Carol - I don't think you have really been in a relationship with a hard core narcissist. There is more at stake here than just looks. There is the welfare of grandchildren who are vulnerable and helpless. Just getting them to the doctor and keeping them safe is a Herculean effort. Although it's great to fight fire with water, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.
Thank you. I needed to hear this. Although I just finished living and going through this. I learned this after the fact. I did exactly what your video suggested without me knowing it. And I watching and hearing this put a smile on my face cuz I did the best and right thing. All this is all true. I'm am an a survival empath testimony.
And soon after that when you stop paying attention to him, I decided to open up a I’m monarch butterfly habitat and my time went to that and he just cried telling everybody. Oh he just suffered for five years well that’s because it was narcissistic injury. That’s what it was.
Thank you for your insight/wisdom.
I’m exiting a five year stint with a narcissist. I don’t just throw that word around. Once you experience someone like this you understand the seriousness of “narcissist”.
I still have two months before moving out. I’d rather leave asap, but not possible.
I’m concerned about an escalation of her tactics as the date gets closer and she sees I’m serious. Right now her tactics are subtle, but I know how far she’s gone before. What I don’t know is how far she’s willing to go.
Praying for a way to have my life back without losing it.
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I DESERVE BETTER!!!!
I AM 100% NO CONTACT!
❤ holding onto my happiness
I deserve better....✊️
Best thing is to break the trauma bond and find a supportive system of trusted friends and carefully selected new friends. Thoroughly enjoy your time with them ( it drives my narc husband mad when I talk and laugh a lot with my friends on the phone ). But keep them away from your home or your 🐊 will swallow them alive, ie steal them and turn them against you. Narcs are extremely good at this.
This is my father in a nutshell. I’ve been trying to break away for years. My stroke, has made that much more difficult.
No. 2 Withhold . Bingo Rebecca. !! I was waiting for this. " Documents" . They withhold DOCUMENTS ,messages , Information etc.
As a tool or leverage Against you.
You hit every nail on the head! It SUCKS! Try being the "bread winner", then becoming Disabled with this going on.... It gets UGLY! Almost 40 years of it, 10+ being Disabled.
I deserve better..Too bad I never realized for the last 48 years but I do now!!! Thank you Rebecca...what an eye opener!