Honestly, that's a complete annihilation for the ultra. I was expecting a difference but not that extreme of a difference. I would guess that that's at the depth level of an equinox right now and for a single frequency machine that is amazing. Great test!
I like the split format Adam. I’ve watched many of these comparisons and quite often they do one machine on all targets first then the other machine and you’re left trying to remember what a particular target’s death was from 15 minutes ago. Well done again.
Good vid…Ultra definitely the way to go with these two. I’ve got a Double Score 2 SMF and was possibly considering the single freq Ultra as a backup to it.
I ordered the Ultra today. I'm a starter but learning from your video's! THANKS! an amazing machine! can't wait to start digging! groetjes from Holland ;)
मुझे भी सिम्पलेक्स डिटेक्टर खरीदना हं, सिम्पलेक्स+ या सिम्पलेक्स अल्ट्रा कौनसा खरीदने का फैसला लुं, डेफ्त के लिए मुझे अल्ट्रा पसंद आ रही हं, आपके अनुसार कौनसी अच्छी डेफ्त देगी
Nice Job!! Would've been nice to see both machines with the SP-24 coil because many of us have bought that coil. Or the Simplex+ SP-24 vs Ultra 11'' DD coil test.
The Sp24 isn't compatible with the Ultra and I don't have the SX24 as yet so I thought it best to keep the coils consistent. I'll keep it in mind for the future though! 😊👍 Thanks for watching 😃
I'll try: Field mode Sensitivity 25 Recov 1 Coin mode (under discr) High depth setting No notch discrimination No GS Iron off Think that's it...let me know if I've missed anything 👍
I'd love to...unfortunately I don't have an X-Terra Pro. There are other users who have compared them, though. In the few I've seen the Ultra comes out on top for detection and depth 👍
I know the Simplex is a single frequency machine and normaly they are not suited for salt water but does it work in salt water (not salt beach, but in the sea it self) like the Minelab Xterra Pro?
@@DTEKTSUSSEX Thanks. I'm on vacation in Turkey and was detecting in the sea but my Legend broke down. I think the coil is broken. Maybe i also take the new Simplex as back up next year.
Hi, The Ultra is definitely deeper than the original Plus, however the currently isn't a 13" coil for the Ultra so it's hard to say whether you would gain depth with the stock 11". You do, however, gain a lot of extra settings and adjustments which supercharge the performance of the machine in so many ways.
There are no extra settings in the Simplex+. The extra settings are in the Simplex Ultra. Too many to list fully but mainly recovery speed, extra modes, more discrimination options, tone break adjustments etc.
Adam in regards to the gold ring on the simplex plus I found a 22ct gold coin in the same hole as a 20p I only dug it out as the hole was open it was a solid 28 vdi with that scratchy iron like grunt thought it was a ring pull so thought I'd remove it from the ground the result was I spent the rest of the day digging ring pulls 😂
@@DTEKTSUSSEX I have the simplex with the SP24 on it. I have heard a few people saying the SP24 is better over the Ultra as it can miss targets where the SP24 hits them at depth.
The SP24 is elliptical whereas the stock coil on the Ultra is standard 'circular'. The elliptical coil will have better separation meaning you'll be able to detect more targets in trashy or target-rich areas, however you lose some depth compared with the larger stock coil. So it's just a case of having the right tool for the job. Trashy area: SP24 Non-trashy area: SP28 (of those two coils).
I have the simplex + with the latest programming, the chattering came out in the upgrade. My point is if you go back to some of the UA-cam a year and a half ago, you'll see the same results as the Ultra. If you learn what the Simplic plus is telling you, you will find as much as you will the Plus. P.S. if your looking to buy a new metal detector, I'd at least buy the legend.
I'm on the Nokta worldwide field team so I do know the machine inside and out. The Ultra is definitely a better performer (which is saying something considering how good the plus is!!!). The Legend is the flagship but not everyone has the funds for it, or has the experience to learn it's ins and outs. The Simplex and Score lines are perfect for someone who wants a simple yet powerful machine on a budget to learn and gain experience.
Hi! In terms of raw performance the Legend will generally find more and it will find it deeper... ...however... ...the BEST machine is the one that's right for the individual user. I don't know your experience but if you're a complete beginner, for example, the Legend will probably be too complicated and you're more likely to give up. If you're a beginner, go for the Simplex. If you have a few years' experience behind you, go for the Legend 😊👍
Wow I love my Simplex but I'm right half to cheat lol This simplex ultra 4 in deeper Holy crap Is there a way to enhance the depth with the regular simplex Plus What did they do They added something is the coil better Is it do I have to buy the Ultra to get this depth just the thought before I break up my love affair with my Simplex
The plus is an amazing machine but they've somehow improved on it with the Ultra. The main difference will be the frequency chance. The Plus is 12khtz and the Ultra is 15khtz. The only way to get more depth with the Plus would be to use the huge SP35 coil. The new machine is more adjustable too.
Simplex plus is plenty deep, i can't keep digging to china. Some don't mind it. Sticking with the original is fine for me. However i will recommend the newer version
It was a forlorn conclusion for me,if you make a new model they will improve it,why make a machine that could do the same as the old model good test though,
Definitely not a gimmick. By putting multiple frequencies into the ground you increase the chances of one of those frequencies matching or being close to the sweet spot of the target. Also, by the nature of the technology, SMF is much more stable in highly mineralised areas (like the beach) and will penetrate deeper than a single frequency machine. 15khtz is a decent middle-of-the-road single frequency and will do a decent job. But with SMF you'll find more and you'll find it deeper 👍
All of that is not true. Multi is only necessary when ground is highly magnetic. At any different ground is 1000 times better to use single frequency. Most multi or maybe better to say all multi in any brand is only two. Not 3,5,10 just only 2 frequencies, always. Multi help you find something but also is shallow as shit. There is many reasons for that. I give you one or two. You have battery in your detector. Power have boundaries. 1) You can go strong on single or half-half on double or like cheaters from XP, Mainlab etc tell you- simultaneously multi. 2) because signal from detector is double but half powerful is more sensitive for electromagnetic fields in the air. Then processor take more power for count that and then is even les power for signal. It’s simple. But only one detector maker talking about this openly - Rutus. Thank you for video.
Which is EXACTLY what I explained in the video and EXACTLY why I don't use these tests to get an exact depth potential...only to compare two variables. Please watch the video all the way through before criticising.
Honestly, that's a complete annihilation for the ultra. I was expecting a difference but not that extreme of a difference. I would guess that that's at the depth level of an equinox right now and for a single frequency machine that is amazing. Great test!
I like the split format Adam. I’ve watched many of these comparisons and quite often they do one machine on all targets first then the other machine and you’re left trying to remember what a particular target’s death was from 15 minutes ago. Well done again.
Thank you 😊 I really appreciate that feedback 🙏
Very nice video,& very nice Nokta makro Simplex detector machin
@@DTEKTSUSSEXHi, thanks for the test, what are the settings for gold nuggets in the ground?...
Hi,
I'm afraid I don't know. We don't really get them here in the UK.
Good vid…Ultra definitely the way to go with these two. I’ve got a Double Score 2 SMF and was possibly considering the single freq Ultra as a backup to it.
I’ve just bought an ultra so I was very pleased with the results 😊
I ordered the Ultra today. I'm a starter but learning from your video's! THANKS! an amazing machine! can't wait to start digging! groetjes from Holland ;)
Great! Let me know if you have any questions.
Happy hunting!!
#Onward!
मुझे भी सिम्पलेक्स डिटेक्टर खरीदना हं, सिम्पलेक्स+ या सिम्पलेक्स अल्ट्रा कौनसा खरीदने का फैसला लुं, डेफ्त के लिए मुझे अल्ट्रा पसंद आ रही हं, आपके अनुसार कौनसी अच्छी डेफ्त देगी
I just bought myself a Simplex + last year and only used it a little bit, now Simplex comes out with the Ultra. Yup I need one. 👍 Good test. 👍
Still use my Simplex+as a backup still a great machine. Primary detector is my Minelab manticore
Great video. It was responsible for me buying the Nokta Simplex Ultra.
Results... Simplex + at 16:20 Simplex Ultra 16:28
That gold ring is absolute jaw dropping!!! That is def a jewelry machine.
Nice Job!! Would've been nice to see both machines with the SP-24 coil because many of us have bought that coil. Or the Simplex+ SP-24 vs Ultra 11'' DD coil test.
The Sp24 isn't compatible with the Ultra and I don't have the SX24 as yet so I thought it best to keep the coils consistent.
I'll keep it in mind for the future though! 😊👍
Thanks for watching 😃
I would like to see the sp24 vs the ultra with dd coil
Great video Adam. Amazing how Nokta can outdo themselves. Well done Nokta!!
Do you think the Simplex Lite with the Sx28 coil would detect deeper than the Simplex+ due to the difference in frequency and different technology?
Yes. Under the same conditions all of the new Simplex range will be deeper. If you can stretch to the BT model you'll get more adjustments too.
Can you please tell us what the exat settings used on the simplex ultra for this test.
I'll try:
Field mode
Sensitivity 25
Recov 1
Coin mode (under discr)
High depth setting
No notch discrimination
No GS
Iron off
Think that's it...let me know if I've missed anything 👍
Cannot wait to have my hands on the ultra!!
Absolutely brilliant and very informative it’s convinced me even more to get the ultra 👍🏼
Definitely getting the ultra for Christmas
Looks like I need the ultra then better start saving 😊 great video thanks Adam 👏👏
interesting Adam. New technology gets the edge again. I can see more people switching from the plus to the ultra now 👍
Nice test, also well explained. time I got mine out on it's maiden voyage. can't wait. TY
Good luck!!!
Thanks for the informative video 👍😉
I think people will know what to buy now...Ultra, newer en better...job well-done Nokta 👌
Thanks Adam. A significant difference to the old machine.
Please do the same test with Simplex Ultra and X-Terra Pro
I'd love to...unfortunately I don't have an X-Terra Pro.
There are other users who have compared them, though. In the few I've seen the Ultra comes out on top for detection and depth 👍
For example: ua-cam.com/video/GDgfxtS_vBs/v-deo.html
🙂👍
Fair play to you, posting a link to another channel to help someone out.
Now that was interesting didn't expect that much difference, also much prefer the ultra,s tones .
Thank you for sharing this. My question for the ultra did you do your download update?
There hasn't been any updates for the Ultra yet.
@@DTEKTSUSSEX Thank you Happy Hunting
cool video. that ring was interesting,, iv got a simplex+.... good to know
That’s awesome performance, even for air testing.
I know the Simplex is a single frequency machine and normaly they are not suited for salt water but does it work in salt water (not salt beach, but in the sea it self) like the Minelab Xterra Pro?
I haven't used it underwater but I did demonstrate it on wet sand and with the coil submerged in my last video.
Works like a dream 😊👍
@@DTEKTSUSSEX Thanks. I'm on vacation in Turkey and was detecting in the sea but my Legend broke down. I think the coil is broken. Maybe i also take the new Simplex as back up next year.
Good plan. Make sure you contact Nokta about the coil 👍
Hi, I use a simplex with 13inch detech coil, would it be worth my while upgrading to the ultra? More depth?
Hi,
The Ultra is definitely deeper than the original Plus, however the currently isn't a 13" coil for the Ultra so it's hard to say whether you would gain depth with the stock 11".
You do, however, gain a lot of extra settings and adjustments which supercharge the performance of the machine in so many ways.
@@DTEKTSUSSEXwhat is extra settings,in Simplex+, please information by make in video sir❤
There are no extra settings in the Simplex+. The extra settings are in the Simplex Ultra.
Too many to list fully but mainly recovery speed, extra modes, more discrimination options, tone break adjustments etc.
Great video ,is the ultra the same power as the bt version?
Yes it will be, however the Ultra is more adjustable so you can tune the machine to the specific location 😊👍
Another great vid Adam 👌 👏
Gracias, pero que frecuencia tiene el simplex ultra?
15khtz
Interesting results! Very surprising how much difference between the two!
Great explanation of the test - thank you!
Adam in regards to the gold ring on the simplex plus I found a 22ct gold coin in the same hole as a 20p I only dug it out as the hole was open it was a solid 28 vdi with that scratchy iron like grunt thought it was a ring pull so thought I'd remove it from the ground the result was I spent the rest of the day digging ring pulls 😂
Plss Try plate size metal.
you should type on the screen what detector are you using on each test
I state which detector I'm using clearly in the video.
Good test thanks for the comparison.
Yet again another great video....Could you do one with the SP24 vs Ultra
Hi Paul.
It wouldn't be a fair test really. I'm hoping to eventually get the SX24 for the Ultra so I'll add that to the to-do list when I get it!
@@DTEKTSUSSEX I have the simplex with the SP24 on it. I have heard a few people saying the SP24 is better over the Ultra as it can miss targets where the SP24 hits them at depth.
The SP24 is elliptical whereas the stock coil on the Ultra is standard 'circular'.
The elliptical coil will have better separation meaning you'll be able to detect more targets in trashy or target-rich areas, however you lose some depth compared with the larger stock coil.
So it's just a case of having the right tool for the job.
Trashy area: SP24
Non-trashy area: SP28
(of those two coils).
Wow didn't think there would be that much of a difference
Bos magkano yong ultra simplex
Thanks for the video!
Nice video & Nice detector simplex ultra ❤❤❤
good stuff Adam
I have the simplex + with the latest programming, the chattering came out in the upgrade. My point is if you go back to some of the UA-cam a year and a half ago, you'll see the same results as the Ultra. If you learn what the Simplic plus is telling you, you will find as much as you will the Plus.
P.S. if your looking to buy a new metal detector, I'd at least buy the legend.
I'm on the Nokta worldwide field team so I do know the machine inside and out. The Ultra is definitely a better performer (which is saying something considering how good the plus is!!!).
The Legend is the flagship but not everyone has the funds for it, or has the experience to learn it's ins and outs. The Simplex and Score lines are perfect for someone who wants a simple yet powerful machine on a budget to learn and gain experience.
What's better the Legend or simplex ultra ?
Hi!
In terms of raw performance the Legend will generally find more and it will find it deeper...
...however...
...the BEST machine is the one that's right for the individual user. I don't know your experience but if you're a complete beginner, for example, the Legend will probably be too complicated and you're more likely to give up.
If you're a beginner, go for the Simplex. If you have a few years' experience behind you, go for the Legend 😊👍
I wish had a Roman coin , none here in Texas !!
Great advert for the ultra.
Awesome 👍, a simplex Ultra vs Xterra pro would be also awesome 😎.
so did the ulta perfom better than the plus? im not sure what significant detector means, almost at last video minute.
I VERY clearly stated in the video that the Ultra was deeper than the Plus.
Very interesting, the Ultra is a super machine.
Simply amazing!
So in theory...if the simplex ultra had 20khz ... should it detect that gold ring even deeper?
Нет
Great video as always really love the channel, im adam this is a metal detector thats a beach lol i love it
That's 10,16 centimeters deeper on a musket ball. 12,7 cm deeper on the Roman coin that looks like an Antoninianus.
Thanks
Waching from the philipines sir
Welcome! 😊👍
Wow I love my Simplex but I'm right half to cheat lol This simplex ultra 4 in deeper Holy crap Is there a way to enhance the depth with the regular simplex Plus What did they do They added something is the coil better Is it do I have to buy the Ultra to get this depth just the thought before I break up my love affair with my Simplex
The plus is an amazing machine but they've somehow improved on it with the Ultra.
The main difference will be the frequency chance. The Plus is 12khtz and the Ultra is 15khtz. The only way to get more depth with the Plus would be to use the huge SP35 coil.
The new machine is more adjustable too.
Simplex plus is plenty deep, i can't keep digging to china. Some don't mind it. Sticking with the original is fine for me. However i will recommend the newer version
u might have interference on the floor, because of not catching the ring
There wasn't.
It was a forlorn conclusion for me,if you make a new model they will improve it,why make a machine that could do the same as the old model good test though,
Multi frequency is just a gimmick ...just get 15 and go with it
Definitely not a gimmick. By putting multiple frequencies into the ground you increase the chances of one of those frequencies matching or being close to the sweet spot of the target.
Also, by the nature of the technology, SMF is much more stable in highly mineralised areas (like the beach) and will penetrate deeper than a single frequency machine.
15khtz is a decent middle-of-the-road single frequency and will do a decent job. But with SMF you'll find more and you'll find it deeper 👍
All of that is not true. Multi is only necessary when ground is highly magnetic. At any different ground is 1000 times better to use single frequency. Most multi or maybe better to say all multi in any brand is only two. Not 3,5,10 just only 2 frequencies, always. Multi help you find something but also is shallow as shit. There is many reasons for that. I give you one or two. You have battery in your detector. Power have boundaries. 1) You can go strong on single or half-half on double or like cheaters from XP, Mainlab etc tell you- simultaneously multi.
2) because signal from detector is double but half powerful is more sensitive for electromagnetic fields in the air. Then processor take more power for count that and then is even les power for signal. It’s simple. But only one detector maker talking about this openly - Rutus. Thank you for video.
Actually, SMF does punch deeper.
Demonstrable in testing and in actual hunt results.
But thanks for watching 👍
You don't have soil conditions
Which is EXACTLY what I explained in the video and EXACTLY why I don't use these tests to get an exact depth potential...only to compare two variables.
Please watch the video all the way through before criticising.
Почему на симплек плюс чуйка стоит не доканца
И у ультры не до конца.
Чуйка у симплика+ ниже чем у ультра
Air tests are crap. No offense
You clearly didn't watch the bit where I explained the limitations of air tests...
outstanding