Why we become fanboys
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2024
- Starting with the early console war between the Sega Genesis and the Super Nintendo. This is my story about how life can alter our decisions in ways we don't even realize at the time. And how our perspectives can shift based on circumstance. This is "Genesis Kid"
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My father decided that buy a master system because he read about its superior graphics in a newspaper article and he wanted us to have the best. The master system was not popular at all in Canada but I could brag to my schoolmates that it had better graphics and 3D glasses. We spent hours in the evening watching him play Phantasy Star, the one game we couldn’t play because it was in English. I think it’s the most time I spent with my father as a kid. Last week, I installed a big lit Sega sign in my game room.
I love this! I always wondered how those 3D glasses were. Did they work with every game? I’d love to see that sig. too. Making this video made me fall back in love with Sega stuff. More to come for sure. Thank you sharing your amazing memory.
@@driftingatoms It has only 7-8 games made for it, I think. Without the glasses, the image looks blurry because each sprite appears twice, with a slight offset. There is an LCD shutter in the glasses that alternates on each frame to block the image for one eye, so the brain is fooled in seeing a depth effect. It looks similar to what you get on the 3DS I think. I still have Space Harrier 3-D, Zaxxon 3-D and the glasses.
@@GuillaumeLevasseur this actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you for the update. Maybe one day I’ll get my hands on one and try it out.
Good to see another smaller creator like me popping up on my feed!
I had the privelege of growing up with hand me down consoles... the NES and the Genesis, and it's all I had until the PS2 era. So I guess I was a GeNESis kid? I loved both equally. I'm glad that's all I had, it's what ultimately led me to a lifelong love of retro video games and tech in general.
Those are the first two consoles I had as well so I still have a love for NES stuff as well. Thanks for checking out the video!
One of my best memories was when we worked together at an arcade and gamestop. Just immersed in the last golden age of gaming. Also my friends and i in the 80s and 90s werent fanboys. We coordinated to play the most games. We discusse who would get what system and games, and share freely among eachother to maximize access to games for everyone..thus went on throughout 90s.also i got hooked on games for similar emotional reasons..but mine was empowerment. The unstable life RNG i got was rough... games.made me realize that...in a video game, i child can outsmart, and defeat the adults. Co op games like double dragon and contra cost $ so it was best to work, with and teach, your less experienced/ skilled partner.
The incentives to play games are radically different in todays mainstream games.
Great vid, knowing personally the work that goes into them.
YES! The arcade days were amazing and so was working at EB which later turned into Gamestop. Since that's what they did. You did it right for sure. Divide and conquer. I'm glad games could be a comfort space for you as well. I know that's one of the reasons we get along so well.
Sick editing dude! I myselr was somewhere in the middle of the console wars, maybe 60/40 in favor of SNES, but I loved Genesis. Thanks for sharing such a personal memory with us.
Thank you! I more time on this video than any other. For sure learned a lot a long the way and plan on applying some things to future projects.
I'm only 20 so all my memories with Sega are long after the console wars. I had the benefit of hindsight and lower cost of systems and games to be able to enjoy more than I would have in the 90s. Genesis was the first game system I didn't have to share with my brothers, and my best Christmases are always associated with Sega: Sonic Adventure in 2014, Sega Saturn in 2017, Game Gear in 2018, and Everdrives and other flash solutions most recently.
I realize after so many years Sega has stuck with me as a means of relaxation and inspiration. The games really are awesome and unique to their own hardware and time periods. The story with your uncle was also really touching and the editing is awesome. New subscriber rightfully earned.
Thank you for sharing this. I love that Sega is a staple in your life even as a younger generation. Gives me hope that maybe they can return to console space. All of my strongest Christmas memories are also around Sega consoles. Sega really is a comfort place. I recently returned to playing way more Genesis stuff and will continue to explore the many games I never had a chance to.
I marked this on my calendar to watch tomorrow. Might not be able to catch it live thanks to work but will watch if when i can. Looking forward to it!! 🎉❤
I appreciate that so much! This video was a labor of love and I learned a lot while making it. Hope you enjoy it.
Thanks for sharing your personal story Stuff - it was really well done. I had a SNES from my parents and I saved up enough to buy a Turbografx during the console wars - but I didn't have enough cash to keep up with everything that was needed for the Turbografx, so I sold it pretty quickly. I always found it a treat to play the Genesis at my friend's place as well. And now, it is fun to go back and catch up on all the great games I missed on all of those systems.
Thank you for all your support. I'm jealous you had a TG-16! I knew one kid that had it growing up and getting to play Bonk was so dope! Keith Courage is actually really fun too.
We live in an amazing time. I love going back and replaying games or getting to play stuff I missed. Genesis speedruns incoming 👀
Awesome video, man. I wish you great success with your content!
UA-cam is a hard environment to thrive in these days, but keep at it. You were recommended on my timeline and I can't believe this isn't a huge channel!
Wow, that's amazing feedback. Thank you so much for taking the time to checkout the video. I've been working hard at upping my production quality and have some fun stuff planned for the next videos.
Awesome video! Very well edited and R.I.P grandpa stuff is stuff
Thank you so much! I took my time with this one and it was a nice change of pace.
When I was younger Pokemon Red was my go to game on the Gameboy. I had a hard time growing up. Playing pokemon was my get away place and I loved it. Thanks for sharing your story!!
Pokemon Red was such an amazing game and it's cool to see it's still a big part of what you do. Looking forward to your next video.
Awesome video! Greetings from 90s Sega kid from Serbia 👋
Thank you! Welcome, happy to have you and thanks for checking out the video.
i respect you for going all the way. I stopped being SEGA proud at 32X.
That was legit a confusing time. Felt like Sega didn’t even know which direction they were going. So I get it
Excellent story telling as well as a very nice edit. You've come a long way with the UA-cam things since you first started. Also, love that you used Married With Children as reference to how houses looked in that 90's haha.
Thank you and great catch. I was hoping someone would recognize that fun little easter egg.
One of my first conscious memories is of playing Streets of Rage 2 in my sister's room when I was about 3 - the music really did something to me. From that point on I associated Sega games with great music and I still do. Fast forward 20 years and now I'm a semi-succesful club dj in New Orleans...and it all started with the great OSTs the sega team was cranking out through the 90's and into the 2000's...
Yooo that’s incredible! The music in the Streets of Rage series is incredible. While making this video I was listening to a ton of sega music. Streets of Rage came up and those songs need to be reimagined by someone. I love that it led you toward a career. I’ve always liked the way the Sega sound hop sounds but I know some folks don’t.
What a great video! I was a Sega kid too (Sega was really popular in Brazil, thanks to TecToy)
I remember my dad coming home with a Mega Drive in the 90’s, man, the memories….
Thank you! Genesis was super popular in Brazil! I think it was supported for a super long time. I’ve always wanted a TecToy console. I’m happy I could send some nostalgia your way. Thanks for checking out the video.
My favorite memories of gaming was my mom playing PS2 games with us. She was always just as excited to play Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, and Ratchet & Clank as much as I was. It was one of the few moments my mom and I really bonded. It’s funny because even to this day she loves to play the campaigns of FPS games and power washing simulator with my sister lol
That’s amazing. She has great taste in games too. Thank you for sharing this. Do you ever go back and play those games?
Power washing simulator is oddly satisfying and super addictive lol
Your story is like you've been living in Paradise while mine is more tragic. No one was on their death bed in my story but it's more base on abuse, but I would of love for a SNES as a kid.
Well there were some death in the family through out the times, but the difference between me and you, my mother hated video games.
I’m sorry for your experience growing up but I’m glad you could find comfort in video games. Thank you for watching the video.
Thanks for sharing that, dude. That's heavy.
Thanks for checking it out. Feels good to share some personal stories.
my friend and I were nintendo fan boys but when given the choice between snes and genesis, he chose genesis. I felt so betrayed 😭lol
😂 fair. The Genesis marketing was just too good.
Cool video, short and sweet. Doesn't seem like there are a whole lot of videos showing up in my recommended tab that are less than 20 minutes.
Thank you! And thanks for checking it out. I appreciate it.
I know that feel. Back when Frontiers came out I was really excited and I got to the third island on release night I think when the booze hit me and I went to sleep. Then at like 5AM my mom's little black cat I got for her starts slamming against my door and squalling like he's being attacked, and he runs away, trying to lead me somewhere. Then go downstairs to find mom gone in bed, her eyes were wide open. She just had a kidney transplant, and didn't follow the strict guidelines for the followup because she was a boomer therefore the doctor didn't know what he was talking about, so her body rejected the kidney and made her eternally sleepy. Weird to think one second I'm playing Septic the Shitlog, then a few hours later I'm screaming into my phone and crying at the at the coroners when they showed up, making a total fucking ass out of myself in front of my neighbors. Shit sucks man.
Like 3 days later I got a letter in the mail from an anonymous neighbor chastising my sister and I for screaming like that at so early in the morning as well as ambulance lights/sirens waking them up xD They probably didn't know tho
I’m very sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you.
Thank you for checking out the video
Back in the 90s I was team Sega even though I had a super Nintendo but I just preferred all of a lot of the games that were on the Mega Drive (Genesis) and I love its graphics and audio, it will always be my favourite Sega console.
That’s super interesting. Love to hear that even kids with SNES preferred SGEN! I’ve always wanted a Japanese Mega Drive. Not sure if they’re the same in other countries but I like the super simple console design and blue start button on the controllers. Plus their box art was always better.
I’ll tell you what, That Was An Excellent Video! Thank you.
Thank you so much and thank you for checking it out!
Finally managed to watch your video. I enjoyed it and you're spot on. I live in EU and was a SEGA kid 'till the very end. I fell in love with video games from the first moment I was exposed and played anything I could get my hands on but the first console I owned was SEGA Master System II with Sonic built in. From the first moment SEGA logo appeared I fell in love with SEGA and Sonic. God knows how many times I finished it that 8-bit masterpiece. Consoles and games were so expensive in my country so my family couldn't afford me a Mega Drive (Genesis) and I had to settle with Master System at the time. I didn't care because I loved playing it so much. Over t he time I enjoyed Mario, Nintendo and Sony and owned PS1 & 2 but my heart always belonged to SEGA. They were special. My heart broke when I read the news SEGA won't be making hardware anymore. I miss SEGA a lot. Greetings from Croatia.
I always thought the master system was so cool! We never had one growing up but we got the power base adapter for Genesis that allows you to play Master System games on Genesisz I loved the card based games.
The fan thing isn't limited to just video games. Sports teams and more can be thrown in I mean if we want to be technical a fan of the sport shouldn't even be biased towards a team rather than a good game with decent back and fourth. It would be like watching someone play Virtua Fighter or Tekken at a high level and only be a fan of one character.
I fully agree. Video games are the thing I’ve tied to emotional events throughout my years, but it for sure could apply to other things.
TLDR: Because your parents could only buy you one.
That’s for sure why I didn’t have more than one consoles, but not why I preferred Sega over all else.
Me born in 2005 - I’m a sega kid 👀
Love to hear it! WHat's your favorite sega game?
love this video great work
Thank you!
Most of my time playing video games growing up was time I could get lost and not have to think about killing myself or that I'm not useless.
Sending good vibes your way. I'm glad video games could be there for you during the tough times.
@@driftingatoms Thank you and good vibes you as well.
now im invested in your story, what was it like to have a saturn or sega cd or 32 and what was it like to play a sega dreamcast? btw one of my first consoles and first time playing sonic was dreamcast.
Actually working on writing about those consoles but I also may go even deeper into the sega journey. Or into my gaming journey from the start. I loved both consoles though. They were hooked up in my bedroom at the time because I took the old family tv when we eventually upgraded. Prior to that I would actually carry the TV upstairs sometimes 😂
great video, i belive there is still a lot of room to improve, good video nonetheless
I agree. There’s always room to improve. That’s one of the best things about art. But most importantly, I’m having fun, and fun is why I do this.
Thanks for checking out the video.
@@driftingatoms title caught my attention so thats a plus +
I said this in a comment on a video about the console wars the other day, and I'll say it again here: The part that most people arguing about the 16-bit console wars these days seem to forget or just willfully ignore, is that not only did Sega of America shoot first and make it personal with their Genesis Does and "Blast Processing" ads, but that carried over into its Genesis fanbase too, and indeed persists to this day. Neither Nintendo nor SNES fans started with all this childish, bitter, aggressive, hateful and these days sometimes even bordering on illegal crap with the way some people act and the lengths they go to.
I didn't become [or get labelled] a SNES "fanboy" until recent times, where, as I was doing some research on how SNES works because I was interested in creating something for the system I loved as a kid, I kept coming across videos, comments, forum chats, etc, all attacking and/or lying about the SNES for apparently no reason other than some long-held bitterness some people haven't been able to let go of for like 30+ years or something. And, when I starting responding to the haters and really just defending the SNES from their attacks and lies, relaying some objective technical facts about each of these systems rather than a bunch of skewed data or just outright lies, and calling out a bunch of insidious attacks on SNES but without specifically attacking the other consoles, I then got labelled a "fanboy" and a bunch of other random things, had false narratives and outright lies spread about me, and then was literally cyber stalked, cyber abused, pile-on harassed and even doxed by a bunch of deranged lunatics basically.
Shame I can't just come in here and have a positive conversation about these systems and even celebrate my personal system of choice in these public forums without fear of insane attack, but that's what some of the utterly toxic people in the gaming "community" have created. Even if I simply came in here and said something nice about SNES to add my bit to the conversation, the odds are at least one or two of the people who've been stalking me for around two years at this point would come in and post whatever troll gibberish, making sure I never have a chance to just have a normal positive conversation around SNES without them creeping their way in at every possible opportunity. And it's not that they simply come in and comment on my comments, which would be totally fine, but that after having stalked me across the Internet and openly admitted to forming an actual mob and personally stalking and attacking me countless times--they literally said a bunch of "Genesis fans" and even some well known Genesis indie/homebrew developers have all come together in some forums or wherever and are actively targeting me, be it just trolling or actively trying to get me removed from certain forums and such--they then come in and comment on specifically my comments over and over saying the same usually attacking and often untrue things about the SNES under multiple alt accounts as if nothing is unusual or utterly creepy and weird and deranged about that at all.
Not saying you're remotely doing any of that, but just making the point since it seemed relevant to the title of the video and the whole modern Genesis vs SNES console wars thing in general. And, at this point, if there's even a small link to what's been going on in this "community", I'm going to mention it for the next little while wherever I can as I get some of the frustration off my chest and let others know about it too.
Anyway, it's fine to celebrate the console you love, even have different opinions and maybe even hotely debate them at times (especially in videos literally titled "Console Wars" or "SNES vs Genesis" and the like), but it's not fine or at all normal to cyber stalk, cyber abuse, pile-on harass and even dox people over basically nothing more than a difference of view regarding a couple of consoles. That's just utterly absurd, and it needs to stop.
I can’t speak to your personal experience. If that’s going on, it says more about those specific people rather than their console preference.
That being said, that’s not even remotely close to the context of this video.
Sadly, there are always going to be toxic fans of everything. I’m sure that same type of behavior exist within other communities. Including SNES communities. But it’s has nothing to do with the console.
I personally love all consoles, and love that we can have different opinions. This opens up dialogues that wouldn’t be possible otherwise.
@@driftingatoms I have noticed SNES fans and PC Engine fans being like this too, especially more so in recent times, so it's certainly not isolated to one community or system.
But, specifically to the actual 16-bit console wars part, which your video touches upon at the start, like I said, it did not start with Nintendo attacking the Genesis or its fans in its marketing for absolute sure. So, if there's all this particularly aggressive animosity and attacking type of behaviour between lovers of these systems decades later, I think at least part of that can be attributed to a company and its marketing department that turned the conversation into the war we now think of it as and spread that kind of attitude around school playgrounds back in the day.
I mean, it's hard to turn around and publicly insult and even lie about one system and its fans in national TV ads and such, basically encourage your fans to then do the same, and that not have ramifications. And, all I know is, I didn't see many SNES fans attacking the Genesis or PC Engine when I initially started looking around for information on how the SNES worked in various development forums and stuff, but I did see others constantly attacking and lying about the SNES for whatever reasons, often even in SNES-specific forums. And it seemed to grow even worse the more I looked into it. And, when I started speaking up on behalf of the system I love most, those other people got real nasty and deranged real fast.
So, personally speaking, I wish we could all just get back to some normal banter around these consoles, even if it's sometimes a bit of a heated but totally still sane debate in relevant places like those "Console Wars" and "SNES vs Genesis" UA-cam videos I mentioned, and also just celebrate each of them for what they are. And I'll leave you do to that now.
You don't have to respond, as I understand fully what you are saying and hear you. Enjoy the systems you love, and have lots of great times with your gaming.
@@inceptional in the communities I hang out in there isn’t any of this. Of course we are all in our lates 30s and 40s. Which may play a role in it. I haven’t seen this type of behavior around the consoles since I was a kid but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. There are great communities out there. Specifically around speedrunning. Hope you find some solid non toxic groups. Thanks for sharing your experience.
I loved snes but also loved Sonic.
A Genesis fan-boi, uh oh! Lol
Where 👀 lol
@@driftingatoms You were so right too, you really lived through it, up until now I never heard anyone mention it so I had completely forgotten... the less fortunate kids had a Sega Genesis, whether they were poor or their parents simply cheaped out and got the lesser console, OR in a few cases they were rich and had both,. I'm not a fan boi though, I was a Nintendo guy until I got a Sega Dreamcast in 99 to see if the hype about Soul Calibur 1 was real so, yeah... you know how that went down. Blown, Away! Too bad the Dreamcast failed, even the demo disk it came with was fire, Sonic, Tony Hawk Pro Skater and Dynamite Cop were on it. Went on to 'own' Power Stone 1 and 2, Jet Grind Radio, Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2, Street Fighter 3 Double Impact and Third Strinke on 1 disc, Marvel Vs Capcom 1 and 2, Capcom VS SNK 1 and 2, that RPG game with Mag Launcher and Linear Cannon... those days were the best since experiencing Star Fox 64 with a rumble pack and the masterclass of Diddy Kong Racing. Had a blast with Crazy Taxi too.
Well Sega lost
lol you're not wrong, but while their consoles existed. Everyone won.
That’s true and the reality is that the super Nintendo was the superior system but that doesn’t mean to say Genesis wasn’t a great system. It is a great system and for nostalgic reasons it’s my favourite system from what was the greatest eras in gaming.
In the process they broke Nintendo's monopoly in US, shaped gaming industry and greeted us with a plethora of great consoles and hundreds of great games. Thank you SEGA!
@@kresimirmandic3807 yes! Thank you Sega!