The craziest thing (not covered in this video) is that we were able to run them all off one mini computer! We hooked up an ASRock 5700 XT and were able to get 6 displays out of it, +3 from the minisforum PC. We'll probably talk about that more later! Get more content like this on Patreon! www.patreon.com/gamersnexus Watch us surprise our editor with a 4090 for his home PC! ua-cam.com/video/ZoOXZpejBnw/v-deo.html
Had to go back and rewatch the drywall anchor video from project farm but yes, barring price and damage from failures, those Toggler Snaptoggle have the highest rated strength @ 238lbs and real tested overall too.
I've built a monitor wall at work. It was 4 x 4 and used 1080 monitors. This was way back and we needed it to test computers we built for a company that used them for signage applications. Using their software solution to drive display walls you could do some interesting things. One of the most impressive I remember was a customer who built a room with I think 14 HD projectors projecting a 26,880 by 1080 movie on all four walls giving you a real surround experience. Another was a 16 projector video wall used to show life size video of a new long haul truck. But anyway, we needed the video wall to test the capabilities of the display system. Now building it was a pain. The system used in this video with the rail that the mounts slide on takes away half of the problem with aligning the monitors. I had single wall mounts that screwed into place, so I better make sure they were aligned properly before drilling any holes. Now that you've got all the monitors in place you realize just how many cables there are with that many monitors on a wall. With 16 monitors comes 16 power cables and 16 signal cables. That's a lot more cables than it sound like at first. And you better mark those signal cables well or you will spend a lot of time playing musical cables when hooking things up. Well the software did have the ability to map individual monitors so you could theoretically hook them up any way and solve it in software. But that was one of the funktions that really could cause strange problems so you'd rather get them connected with some kind of logic. Still it was pretty impressive to see some of their high res videos they pumped out to these systems.
I honestly wanted even more from the Wall O' Monitors setup. The installation of the rails, the PC connections and setup, and how they decided what to put on them.
The slides are probably PTFE (Teflon). I think this is an excellent idea; maybe you can add some tongue-in-cheek "actual testing footage" cards next to the monitors when we see them running. Also, does that power strip run off of one plug? Because that's a lot of load on a single plug.
About 15 years ago I wall mounted a 60" plasma TV for a customer, my first time mounting a TV of that size about 40kg and very expensive!. It wasn't an articulating mount thank god, but I do remember using something like 25 coach screws into the timber studs. Had to get another contractor on site to help me lift and mount it. Still remember the nervs!
Metal studs are great. You just gotta have the right tools for the job. We did something similar but instead of 9 small monitors we mounted 2 55" low profile plasmas side by side with low profile brackets on the wall with just enough clearance to tuck two apple TVs, two surface connect adapters, and two chromecast HD in the back of each to do give us the flexibility to do some nice collaboration work when folks were in the office. This was back in 2015....seems like a life time ago. We used quite a few toggle bolts bolts also as those plasmas were not light, lol!
Interesting choice on the Ergotech units. For the video wall setups I've built I choose Chief. I would have done the sneaky thing and chose a cable tray that matches the Ergotech unit and made it look as those braces extend to the rack that's generally out of frame. I presume that that is where the content for the wall is being generated and a more direct path between the displays and source leads to shorter/cheaper cables. Excellent choice on those toggle bolts. I use the same type for all sorts of other projects. Coworker was able to do pull up off of the bar on the wall as they're so stable when you get them into metal studs. I will stay that the static weight load is also dependent on the dry wall, if you hit a stud, how many/arrangement of the toggle bolts. Drilling into metal studs can suck but they seriously assist in supporting weight for projects like these. A bit of a nitpick but something that stands out in a studio space is the white gang plates on a grey wall. I would have painted them to blend in as white on grey just screams 'look at me'. I also don't where power is coming from for the wall. It'd be simple enough to pull from the rack where there is likely a high current source with a nice PDU and hopefully a UPS. For NOC/SOC style applications, I would generally split the power loads two different circuits in the event of power failure and UPS run times. That generic rule doesn't really apply is this more studio setup but I would consider splitting the power source for another reason: you guys do deal with high power systems for your reviews of high end gear. Given that one system under load can easily consume half of a 20A circuit, where there wouldn't be enough head room for another system and these displays. This setup is also one of the cases were several Quadro/Radeon Pro cards could make sense driving everything. For a studio application, using genlock will permit the displays to stay synchronized as one virtual surface and align their refresh to that of the camera. If you're running different pieces of content on the monitors as I've seen in the recent news videos, then this is a benign issue.
Mount into STUDS unless u have absolutely no other choice. Those drywall anchors should never be relied on for anything heavy. Because it's commercial property, that drywall is probably 5/8" vs normal 1/2" in residential so there's a bit more strength.
Thanks Mike and Andrew for making this video! I am planning a similar set for my twitch channel as I fell in love with what you guys have done with this set. I assume you went with the 75" rails to fit the 27" monitors? I would also love to see your control setup for each of the screens in action, as well as the cable management!
Abit late to the party but maybe it'll be read anyway. What about a Corner case (custom) to go.. in the corner. (under the monitors) it could draw some attention from the corner, the main non monitor wall could hold the motherboard and be easily removable for changing the motherboard/gpu, and the corner bit could be a psu and maybe cooling options so you don't need to tear the whole build apart for testing - or just make something really cool a full time PC in a cool case to be background for the videos!
I was hoping the mounts would allow you to move the monitors up and down because you could move the bottom and middl3e row up just enough to overlap them and cover the bottom edge of the screens and you could turn it into one large 9 panel screen with nearly zero edges..... maybe you could look into finding a mount that you can just incorporate with what you have so you don't have to fully replace and toss the old ones.... but hey you could ALSO get 3 mounts that allow for that extension towards the corner like you were talking... maybe even add three more screen on long extension arms just for that... there's a TON of way you could upgrade it all in the future.... I'M JEALOUS!!!! lol
I was looking forward to the PC driving the monitors. Thought you might use a couple of older Quadro cards that had the 4 to 8 outputs, meant for professional signage
Was getting white balance/exposure levels in order at all difficult with those in the background? Whenever I tried to take a photo of a somewhat well lit room with a running monitors in it, colors on the displays would always come out wrong, but then I figured you film monitors all the time without issues, so perhaps it's not a problem
Cool stuff. Are all the monitor arms the same length? It might be nice to have longer ones in the middle and even longer ones closest to that corner. That'll give you guys the option to have the monitors reach across that corner making it appear like you mounted them right in the corner. Should you guys extend the monitor wall to the neighboring wall, you can have a completely seamless curved monitor wall.
I would really reconsider having the wall reinforced and properly mounting these, those drywall anchors have caused countless disasters when they rip out a chunk of the wall and the entire mounted thing collapses. They are fine for very lightweight decorations but this is far too much, especially considering the monitors sit out from the wall and can be moved around which increases the strain on that bracket.
Probably this is the only thing I don't like so much, just because they are distracting to watch when Steve is talking. But maybe I will get used to them!
Ditto, but I know I won't get used to them, (unless the scene changes and motion are significantly toned down), due to decades of experience to learn that my focus is very easily stolen (but didn't make the connection to Autism and/or ADHD until very recently).
Agreed, though if enough people don't get used to them I'm sure it's possible for GN team to just switch over to more static or less frequently changing content temporarily for video shoots.
@@zivzulander I "believe" far more would like the "dynamic" set than a more static one and plenty don't really care either way, which (if true) would leave a pretty small minority who're particularly bothered by it. This would lead to such comments getting drowned out and/or buried by the positive ones and the reduced view/sub count getting lost in the normal fluctuations.
Cable management... are you going to use a DisplayPort patch panel? I suppose you could also use a HDMI patch panel for those times where you need to be testing using HDMI.
Did not notice that was a Mathews hat until you pointed it out (hard to make it out on phone). I wouldn't mind having a Mathews bow (Phase4 33, V3X 33, or TRX 34, to name a few), even as a backyard target archer. Priced out of my budget for now, though, especially since this hobby eats up most of my "disposable" income. 😅 Priced like Nvidia GPUs (with similar consumer sentiments, actually)
It will look very nice and professional as a background for news updates and part of CPU and GPU test videos. Hopefully no frequent earthquakes over in east coast. Here in Socal, I don't think the drywalls alone can hang on to the monitors. But I'm no expert, so correct me know if I'm wrong.
Everyone make sure your subs are still on even if its says ALL click it again. I havent got a video in MONTHS. I think youtube is messing with people's accounts.
Dry wall, a ver North American thing. All the walls in my apartment are concrete or brick. The European way if building homes that last. Nice behind the scenes video!
The plastic in the drywall archors is just used to align those threaded metal mounts to be snug against the drywall, and each of those metal mounts behind the wall would each then have a metal bolt screwed in to them from the front side.
Oh, the monitors are somewhat different. I was wondering if you can finally "game in 8K/12K" on that xD If they're not all 4K then the latter's out. Because y'all know that bit of marketing will come back.
Had never trusted a wall to hold that amount of weight. Have no experience with it to be fair. Quite agents playing with wall mounts as a result. Like dry wall? For real monitors are heavy and dry walls are the kind of thing you almost consider weak enough to be a fire escape route! It is the stuff inside of the wall that might stop you from taking a shortcut. Idk. I might know to little about the topic but just not trusting hanging stuff on walls without being sure to hit something that also holds up to me running into it. Lol. Not really liking the look too being honest. But ey whatever.
What's the purpose of all of this? what the ROI of this? I really don't see how this will improve the content you are delivering. long term testing of screen maybe?
I am glad that the point about not drilling into the studs was brought up because man 10 zip toggles in the wall per bracket just hope that the spacing of the holes are in between several studs.
The craziest thing (not covered in this video) is that we were able to run them all off one mini computer! We hooked up an ASRock 5700 XT and were able to get 6 displays out of it, +3 from the minisforum PC. We'll probably talk about that more later! Get more content like this on Patreon! www.patreon.com/gamersnexus
Watch us surprise our editor with a 4090 for his home PC! ua-cam.com/video/ZoOXZpejBnw/v-deo.html
Had to go back and rewatch the drywall anchor video from project farm but yes, barring price and damage from failures, those Toggler Snaptoggle have the highest rated strength @ 238lbs and real tested overall too.
Pretty impressive! Couldn't do that with an nv card afaik. 4 monitor max I think.
@@Murderhoboh yep, GeForce is 4 displays max, Intel Arch is 5 and Radeon is 6.
@@stefanmisch5272 Stupid NV!
I'm puzzled wondering why you are doing this? I guess we will find out later?
this set is great, looks like some kind of newsroom set, the fact it's functional makes it even better.
I love seeing Mike in videos. He's a great presenter with very chill vibes.
I've built a monitor wall at work. It was 4 x 4 and used 1080 monitors. This was way back and we needed it to test computers we built for a company that used them for signage applications. Using their software solution to drive display walls you could do some interesting things. One of the most impressive I remember was a customer who built a room with I think 14 HD projectors projecting a 26,880 by 1080 movie on all four walls giving you a real surround experience. Another was a 16 projector video wall used to show life size video of a new long haul truck. But anyway, we needed the video wall to test the capabilities of the display system.
Now building it was a pain. The system used in this video with the rail that the mounts slide on takes away half of the problem with aligning the monitors. I had single wall mounts that screwed into place, so I better make sure they were aligned properly before drilling any holes.
Now that you've got all the monitors in place you realize just how many cables there are with that many monitors on a wall. With 16 monitors comes 16 power cables and 16 signal cables. That's a lot more cables than it sound like at first. And you better mark those signal cables well or you will spend a lot of time playing musical cables when hooking things up. Well the software did have the ability to map individual monitors so you could theoretically hook them up any way and solve it in software. But that was one of the funktions that really could cause strange problems so you'd rather get them connected with some kind of logic.
Still it was pretty impressive to see some of their high res videos they pumped out to these systems.
It's really cool seeing the behind the scenes stuff like this. It's a really cool setup. You make it look so easy! Lol
I honestly wanted even more from the Wall O' Monitors setup. The installation of the rails, the PC connections and setup, and how they decided what to put on them.
Saw this in the Disappointment build video, and was not disappointed. 😉 Really cool. I want to get one of those rails for my desk now.
Love the new monitor wall set, the whole aesthetic looks great. Great to see the behind the scenes as well.
The slides are probably PTFE (Teflon). I think this is an excellent idea; maybe you can add some tongue-in-cheek "actual testing footage" cards next to the monitors when we see them running. Also, does that power strip run off of one plug? Because that's a lot of load on a single plug.
Monitors don't draw much power now a days. A 13amp strip would be HARD to overload with monitors.
glad I found this channel, completely forgot you guys had an 'Extras" channel... definitely gonna use the same type of idea for a 3x monitor setup.
Those sliding mounts are really nice. Love all the practicality and that it's not just for show (though it does look 😎 too).
About 15 years ago I wall mounted a 60" plasma TV for a customer, my first time mounting a TV of that size about 40kg and very expensive!. It wasn't an articulating mount thank god, but I do remember using something like 25 coach screws into the timber studs. Had to get another contractor on site to help me lift and mount it. Still remember the nervs!
the anti friction stuff on the mount is probably delrin (POM).
This guy has actual biceps!!! (Steve is seething at this very moment!)
This is amazing! Mike’s also really showing his foresight and experience at 9:09.
Very impressive. Most people wouldn’t think that far.
Wall mount the GN blue cooler master monstrosity!
I was honestly surprised by how much use you guys are getting from it. Impressive mix of design and utility well done
The real load-bearing capacity of dry wall, right there!
Darn...... now I want to see the curve or wave setup, you gotta get the longer bracket now hahaha 😆
Really enjoy the behind the scenes content with Mike.
Metal studs are great. You just gotta have the right tools for the job. We did something similar but instead of 9 small monitors we mounted 2 55" low profile plasmas side by side with low profile brackets on the wall with just enough clearance to tuck two apple TVs, two surface connect adapters, and two chromecast HD in the back of each to do give us the flexibility to do some nice collaboration work when folks were in the office. This was back in 2015....seems like a life time ago. We used quite a few toggle bolts bolts also as those plasmas were not light, lol!
We have installed a lot in the studs, but we generally try to avoid it if we can do so safely just because it's more permanently destructive.
This video is good and practical. It could help DIYers and is a fun content on its own.
Interesting choice on the Ergotech units. For the video wall setups I've built I choose Chief. I would have done the sneaky thing and chose a cable tray that matches the Ergotech unit and made it look as those braces extend to the rack that's generally out of frame. I presume that that is where the content for the wall is being generated and a more direct path between the displays and source leads to shorter/cheaper cables.
Excellent choice on those toggle bolts. I use the same type for all sorts of other projects. Coworker was able to do pull up off of the bar on the wall as they're so stable when you get them into metal studs. I will stay that the static weight load is also dependent on the dry wall, if you hit a stud, how many/arrangement of the toggle bolts. Drilling into metal studs can suck but they seriously assist in supporting weight for projects like these.
A bit of a nitpick but something that stands out in a studio space is the white gang plates on a grey wall. I would have painted them to blend in as white on grey just screams 'look at me'. I also don't where power is coming from for the wall. It'd be simple enough to pull from the rack where there is likely a high current source with a nice PDU and hopefully a UPS. For NOC/SOC style applications, I would generally split the power loads two different circuits in the event of power failure and UPS run times. That generic rule doesn't really apply is this more studio setup but I would consider splitting the power source for another reason: you guys do deal with high power systems for your reviews of high end gear. Given that one system under load can easily consume half of a 20A circuit, where there wouldn't be enough head room for another system and these displays.
This setup is also one of the cases were several Quadro/Radeon Pro cards could make sense driving everything. For a studio application, using genlock will permit the displays to stay synchronized as one virtual surface and align their refresh to that of the camera. If you're running different pieces of content on the monitors as I've seen in the recent news videos, then this is a benign issue.
Great video! I'm converting the garage in the house I'm moving to into a YT studio and this gave me some dangerous ideas...
Mount into STUDS unless u have absolutely no other choice. Those drywall anchors should never be relied on for anything heavy. Because it's commercial property, that drywall is probably 5/8" vs normal 1/2" in residential so there's a bit more strength.
awesome idea and nice behind the scenes!
You guys have courage mounting in drywall, well done
Thanks Mike and Andrew for making this video! I am planning a similar set for my twitch channel as I fell in love with what you guys have done with this set. I assume you went with the 75" rails to fit the 27" monitors? I would also love to see your control setup for each of the screens in action, as well as the cable management!
Mike is pretty funny, and confident on camera.
That "change of pants" comment had me laughing!
Love this new set! Y'all did a great job on it!
Love this extra content, the outlets being not square to each other drove me a little nuts though with how great the rest of it looked
love seeing this stuff. you could make another vid explaing how you did all the cable management once its done
Was expecting more. Looks great though
Abit late to the party but maybe it'll be read anyway.
What about a Corner case (custom) to go.. in the corner. (under the monitors) it could draw some attention from the corner, the main non monitor wall could hold the motherboard and be easily removable for changing the motherboard/gpu, and the corner bit could be a psu and maybe cooling options so you don't need to tear the whole build apart for testing - or just make something really cool a full time PC in a cool case to be background for the videos!
Definitely do the wall mount pc, could we have a cat build pc on that set as well it just looks cool
The jaw line is extremely solid
GN HQ's Command Center, nice
Loving these videos, thank you for sharing. Please make some black and green GN extra merch 💚
I was hoping the mounts would allow you to move the monitors up and down because you could move the bottom and middl3e row up just enough to overlap them and cover the bottom edge of the screens and you could turn it into one large 9 panel screen with nearly zero edges..... maybe you could look into finding a mount that you can just incorporate with what you have so you don't have to fully replace and toss the old ones.... but hey you could ALSO get 3 mounts that allow for that extension towards the corner like you were talking... maybe even add three more screen on long extension arms just for that... there's a TON of way you could upgrade it all in the future.... I'M JEALOUS!!!! lol
Would love to see more detail/model info on that rail system and those toggle bolts. Never seen toggles like those before
Ooh nice
Those toggles make great fidget devices if you've got nervous hands. Found out on the job that they're better than spinners
This has a nice, awesome Portal vibe
I’m not a huge fan of mounting without the studs; 10 mounting points is a lot but still doesn’t really sit right with me.
I was looking forward to the PC driving the monitors. Thought you might use a couple of older Quadro cards that had the 4 to 8 outputs, meant for professional signage
Awesome new set!
Love the video going over the wall mount setup, but what's up with the APC rack?
The motion of some of the games being tested in the background is distracting visually to focusing on the presenter.
wondered why didn't go for larger TV display for overall less bezel?
existing stocks I suppose?
even with a level drilling all the holes level must of been a huge pain.
Was getting white balance/exposure levels in order at all difficult with those in the background?
Whenever I tried to take a photo of a somewhat well lit room with a running monitors in it, colors on the displays would always come out wrong, but then I figured you film monitors all the time without issues, so perhaps it's not a problem
Cool stuff. Are all the monitor arms the same length? It might be nice to have longer ones in the middle and even longer ones closest to that corner. That'll give you guys the option to have the monitors reach across that corner making it appear like you mounted them right in the corner. Should you guys extend the monitor wall to the neighboring wall, you can have a completely seamless curved monitor wall.
I would really reconsider having the wall reinforced and properly mounting these, those drywall anchors have caused countless disasters when they rip out a chunk of the wall and the entire mounted thing collapses. They are fine for very lightweight decorations but this is far too much, especially considering the monitors sit out from the wall and can be moved around which increases the strain on that bracket.
love this stuff!
Do we have a link to the mounts? Been looking to do this but just a single row in my office. Thanks for the quality content!
i was wondering if that monitor wall was just for show and had looping videos or was actually being used
Ooh, I'd be really interested to see how you drive this: software, hardware, etc.
See their pinned comment (in case you missed it).
@@ChrispyNut I am cheering on the "We'll probably talk about that more later!" part!
Probably this is the only thing I don't like so much, just because they are distracting to watch when Steve is talking.
But maybe I will get used to them!
Ditto, but I know I won't get used to them, (unless the scene changes and motion are significantly toned down), due to decades of experience to learn that my focus is very easily stolen (but didn't make the connection to Autism and/or ADHD until very recently).
Agreed, though if enough people don't get used to them I'm sure it's possible for GN team to just switch over to more static or less frequently changing content temporarily for video shoots.
We film in multiple locations, so the old set will still get used.
@@zivzulander I "believe" far more would like the "dynamic" set than a more static one and plenty don't really care either way, which (if true) would leave a pretty small minority who're particularly bothered by it.
This would lead to such comments getting drowned out and/or buried by the positive ones and the reduced view/sub count getting lost in the normal fluctuations.
@@gnextras It might be cool to just have a wall of monitors showing the static GN logo.
One of these days I'm going to want to buy a triple monitor mount for my desk, It looks like this company would be a decent place to look for that.
Wendell would approve.
I keep waiting for that screwdriver to pierce one of those monitors ;)
No studs to drill into?
Cable management... are you going to use a DisplayPort patch panel? I suppose you could also use a HDMI patch panel for those times where you need to be testing using HDMI.
Love it
should of built a Fake wall out of 3/4 plywood and 2x2 or 2x4. on wheels, then you can get behind, hide cables and swap things around more easily.
_::Shakes bowl::_ More GN extras please
6:00 Those white things in the rails are nylon.
Please post links to the wall/slide mounts
Who makes or made the table that you are using? Is it something that is easily purchased or is it a kit in pieces.
Looks like something I've seen before... I just can't place where.
Nice
It funny how content creators borrow for each out.. first linus with labs and in depth testing and now you guys with multiple sets..
when stuff falls you let it fall, don't catch it. It's not worth it. Boss should be telling you this all the time.
Mike is a bow hunter
Did not notice that was a Mathews hat until you pointed it out (hard to make it out on phone). I wouldn't mind having a Mathews bow (Phase4 33, V3X 33, or TRX 34, to name a few), even as a backyard target archer. Priced out of my budget for now, though, especially since this hobby eats up most of my "disposable" income. 😅 Priced like Nvidia GPUs (with similar consumer sentiments, actually)
Models # of the monitors?
Long display port cables, sound like a yummy disaster.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TELL ME IT ISN'T JUST 30 TOGGLE BOLTS HANGING ALL OF THIS ON DRYWALL.
New t-shirt idea.
" I need a change of pants"
It will look very nice and professional as a background for news updates and part of CPU and GPU test videos.
Hopefully no frequent earthquakes over in east coast. Here in Socal, I don't think the drywalls alone can hang on to the monitors. But I'm no expert, so correct me know if I'm wrong.
Can someone help me find a link to this mounting system I've been looking for it since Linus used something like them with CallmeKris
i hope you hit some studs, i would NOT trust drywall anchors.
why not just use a big tv?
Everyone make sure your subs are still on even if its says ALL click it again. I havent got a video in MONTHS. I think youtube is messing with people's accounts.
Now we need a review of each one lmfao
I still wouldn't trust the drywall.
What a hunk
Lol, how are you gonna push that many pixels?
HMWPE, High Molecular Weight Polyethylene,
UHMWPE is used as a bearing surface in knee and hip joint replacements.
Dry wall, a ver North American thing. All the walls in my apartment are concrete or brick. The European way if building homes that last.
Nice behind the scenes video!
Using plastic anchor bolts…..I can’t fortell ANYTHING that will go wrong with those…
/sarcasm
The plastic in the drywall archors is just used to align those threaded metal mounts to be snug against the drywall, and each of those metal mounts behind the wall would each then have a metal bolt screwed in to them from the front side.
Ninefinity confirmed..
What desk/bench is that?
Oh, the monitors are somewhat different.
I was wondering if you can finally "game in 8K/12K" on that xD If they're not all 4K then the latter's out.
Because y'all know that bit of marketing will come back.
Had never trusted a wall to hold that amount of weight. Have no experience with it to be fair. Quite agents playing with wall mounts as a result. Like dry wall? For real monitors are heavy and dry walls are the kind of thing you almost consider weak enough to be a fire escape route! It is the stuff inside of the wall that might stop you from taking a shortcut. Idk. I might know to little about the topic but just not trusting hanging stuff on walls without being sure to hit something that also holds up to me running into it. Lol.
Not really liking the look too being honest. But ey whatever.
drywall is very supportive parallel to the sheet - it's all rock
just perpendicular is where it becomes...fragile
What's the purpose of all of this?
what the ROI of this?
I really don't see how this will improve the content you are delivering.
long term testing of screen maybe?
And that's were real brick-walls have their advantage
"stephen".....who tf is "stephen"?
I am glad that the point about not drilling into the studs was brought up because man 10 zip toggles in the wall per bracket just hope that the spacing of the holes are in between several studs.
HACKERTIME
i feel like they will put cats on them and not use the for anything else