You've mentioned before that race shoes get more views, but I'm glad you're covering the people's shoes and not chasing metrics. These comparisons are really useful!
Been waiting for a max cushion showdown! “This is going to be a titanic matchup for the ages, so get your gels ready, strap up, buckle in, let’s get into it!”
Just picked up More V5 for my easy day shoe. Huge improvement for me over the V4. The V4 was unstable in the foam and the sidewalls caused blisters. The V5 is more stable, wider, maybe not as soft in feel but just as forgiving on tired legs. Been having shin splints and they make running doable while I heal back up.
@EmoneyXC I got them in thr mail yesterday. Ran a 5k in them today and got a PR. I have narrower feet, I love the way they fit. They have a perfect amount of stack in the forefoot. The rocker is not aggressive at all, but my feet felt great dur8ng and after the race! Would recommend. I'm 6'2", 238lb
I’m with you on running the some route. I have 2 routes I run consistently and do enjoy them. There is just something about knowing a familiar route that is cool. It’s fun to look back and compare runs from months back on each route and see progress. “ Hobby Jogger route” T shirt?
I do run the same routes everyday either at home or at the lake..being able to stop by the house if the shoes aren't working on the day keeps me running every day regardless of the weather or how I feel that day..at the lake my route takes me by a couple of little stores that I can get a water and the route is a mix of dirt roads,trails and pavement..shade trees also make a sunny day better for my long runs..these dog days of summer can make it tough to stay motivated..a race every weekend helps my routine stay on course..I do like the softer shoes,but not the heavy ones..fortunately we can have softer and lighter shoes with some experience picking out what works for you..😊
Hurricane looks like a good time on feet shoe, like people use the Hokas. Back from vacation so I have to catch up on a couple videos still. The Adizero SL2 was a fantastic do it all shoe. I did a lot of short to moderate runs plus walking all over London and various parts of Greece. The outsole still looks like brand new. Traction was solid on pavement, hard packed dirt, and gravel. Fine on wet pavement but a little sketchy on greasy wet surfaces and some of the slick marble sidewalks in Greece; I don't think anything would be great there. It was super comfortable to have on foot for hours and I never felt like it was flattening out. Soft but not mushy. I highly recommend as a workhorse do everything shoe for sub-150 lb runners. I don't think I can speak for bigger runners.
I also just got the Hurricane today. Recommend these for heavier runners over More V5. I have both. Sad to say. The MorebV5 heels bottom out.. and I am dominated a midfoot striker. Love the NB but these Hurricanes are 🔥 amount of firmness
@supwell just finished my first 5 miles in them. Great shoe. I never heard of these til today. Sun & Ski had 1 pair. I got my More V5's from Fleet Feet so I will exchange them for the Balos next month. More V5 is a great walking shoe, but super mushy after I put miles in them.
@@JeffHardyyyyyheads up you may have the same issue with the balos - it's just as soft as the more v5 if not a little softer if that's even believable 😂 if you're looking for another cushioned shoe you may want to consider ghost max 2 or if you want new balance wait til the 1080v14 drops in September. I think that one will be a little firmer/more supportive than the more and balos
@supwell interesting! So, I love my SL2's. I have the 1080s for my daily shoe. I wear it to work. They're filthy! Honestly, I think I have my shoe line up, now. Between the SL2's, Hurricane 24's, and the Endorphin Pro 4's. I just love shoes. Waiting til September is definetly an option! All my shoes are so versatile. I can always just return to Fleet Feet, but they'll probably ban me once I do. Shoe #5 returned this year 🙈🤣🤣
How would you compare the upper of the more v5 to an invincible run 3 upper? I’m looking for a new daily and I’m on the tail end of my 3rd invincible run 3. I tried the gel nimbus 25 and that upper made my feet to hot. I bring that up because the more v5 upper looks similar to the gel nimbus 25
As the heavier and slower, mid/forefoot striker I cannot say how often I’ve had to donate a pair of great running shoes because the midsole had bottom out on me in the middle of the run (especially in the forefoot). The resilience of the foam is the deciding factor, the weight barely plays a role. Hurricane would clearly be my pick.
I like cushion, but nothing worse than cushion that absorbs your energy and saps your strength. That said, I pretty much judge shoes based on whether they hurt my knees or not😂.
Dude me too and I'm on the heavier side of things at 183lbs...so I usually run in the firmer foams. The ride 17 has been decent for long runs...it's on the firmer side. Compliant foams like the 1080v13 and nimbus 25 simply give quickly into a long run
@@Frichilsasta08 This may be why I kinda bonked out on a long run today with the 1080v13. Never been able to take them comfortably past maybe 10km or even before that (seeing lots of 7 to 8km runs with some 10km runs peppered in my running history). They are so light and soft for me for the shorter runs though!
@spyderm4n yup. Definitely recommend a firmer foam...especially if you mid to forefoot strike so the foam actually gets better as you run longer. Pwrrun plus has been great for that
I've gotta get some more miles in that but it's been great so far. More v5 is a lot softer which I know isn't everyone's cup of tea. Ghost max 2 will work much better if you need a more structured midsole to support weight/force
Thanks for such an excellent comparison! I have a question, with which of these two shoes would you say there is less sensation of the ground when you run or walk?
Lol, I’m about to watch this on the Wahoo, I think it’s gonna be great (although I’ll admit I didn’t expect to see Hurricane in the two best category)…
It feels like a moderate drop - def doesn't feel 8/10. There's a noticeable difference in drop feel from the Triumph 22 which was a 10mm - I think it may be a visual trick on this colorway with the midsole colors. In terms of stability the only thing noticeable as a neutral runner is the very secure and rigid heel piece in the upper. Other than that there's nothing overly notable about the stability
I want the more v5, but don't really like any of the colorways.😅 I'm looking forward to you reviewing the pegasus plus. Also wondering what the Nike invincible 4 will be??
Would you say that the Hurricane 24 is the true legacy of the Triumph 20/21. Looking for a replacement for my favorite daily trainer and based on reviews it’s not the 22. Much appreciated 🙏🏼
I love the Hurricane but it's a lot heavier/more cushioned on foot. I actually did a video on this exact topic a few weeks ago! My top pick if you're looking for that cushioned workhorse daily is the Supernova Prima but I have some more recommendations in that video as well ua-cam.com/video/evP1-03sVow/v-deo.html
Also the true legacy would be the Ride 17 but they made that foam a lot firmer and it's really not an enjoyable experience. The other picks in the replacements video I did are much better
Would you rate the V5 for a cruiser runner needing comfort and stability but with some pop, not fast but looking at 2-3 hours on feet, 138 lbs 😂is that heavy 🤷♀️ had the shift 3 and enjoyed that foam kind off
Those you're too old jokes come around the time your kids get 12-13. Prior to that you're the coolest person they know and with the flip of a switch you're the oldest person they know😂
Brooks ghost max! The original version not the 2. It's soft but supportive and has perfect cushion for standing all day. If you're in the US it's on sale right now for $120 as well. If you don't have brooks available near you then the Saucony hurricane 24 is a good choice as well. Similar qualities but a little bouncier and $160
Saucony hurricane 24 versus New balance 860 v13 or v14 they both seem to be similar.. which would you advise for daily wear shoes I'm not actually a runner just standing of my feet for hours at work and i need good stability.
For standing hours on feet I would highly recommend the hurricane 24! It's more cushioned than the new balance shoes and is one of my favorite comfort oriented shoes of the year
Full comparison with more v5 and glycerin max is going up tonight! Ghost max 2 has more of a daily trainer feel - it's firmer and not as exciting, but a great no-frills shoe for everyday miles if you want a little bounce and good support. Also surprisingly fast
@@JPE_DRAEBhere you go! New videos usually go up 11:30pm ET New Balance More v5 vs Glycerin Max, Puma MagMax, Hoka Skyflow ua-cam.com/video/45tb06Q7uUI/v-deo.html
Hi yowana Again a great review. Delay car watch video to me:). I do not no if you saw my last question and have time to response it would help. Or a roundup in recovery shoes with the adidas prima or hoka skyflow. You are I think the only guy that have test al those recovery minded shoes. This was my last question. if you rank your favo mid drop ~6mm from stiffer to softer recovery / lsd shoe it is like this? . 1 ghost max 2 2. Cloud monster 2, 3, guide 17, 4. nb trainer v3 5. Hoka skyward x 6.hurricane 24 and 7. More v5 (most soft ) This ultra boost has a higher drop >6 right -adidas prima and skyflow. Great work mate very impressive your effort and helping people choice shoes!!
Skyward X is my favorite of all those! I didn't put it in the same max cushion category as these since it has a plate, but that's my favorite all around shoe that can do every type of run. In terms of firm to soft it would go something like: guide 17, ghost max 2, skyward x, sc trainer v4, hurricane 24, more v5. Stay tuned for prima and Skyflow soon
i've been pulling for the hokacane nonstop for casual use since i got it. haven't worn the more v5 once 😬 so the saucony definitely gets it! btw supernova prima review coming very soon - thanks for the tip dude
@@supwell glad to hear we are on the same page! Can’t wait for the Prima review. I hope you like it as much as I do. It definitely lacks a wow factor but its upper is great . Midsole Is stable , bouncy and dependable. Heard it’s 15% denser version of lightstrike pro . Really like it for long run, where I can set it and forget it type of long run (if that makes sense ). also I find myself running marathon pace in it (745) when I think I’m going easy (830) which is a good sign that it has bounce/ pop , considering it’s weight . Don’t want to sway you but those are just my thoughts at the 50 mile mark in it
Just wondering since I have the More V3 for my easy runs, would you put the 860 v 14 in the same category as say the Novablast 4 as a daily trainer for say lighter runners, just want something to put on for those steady miles which doesn’t wear the sole down in say 200 miles ? The 860 to me looks better for my weight than say the 1080 which is maybe too soft.
Hurricane is maybe a little softer but biggest difference is stack height and bulk. 860 feels way lighter and more streamlined - I did a 21 mile long run in it with some 6:20 pace pick up miles at the end. I wouldn't dare to do something like that in the hurricane 😂 hurricane is more for plodding along in comfort and for me will max out at 12 miles / 90 mins
Q-What current shoe would you say offers the same experience as the Saucony speed3? I’m using the speed 3 as a daily trainer but also want another daily trainer without a plate. TIA
@@supwell that’s what I was thinking after your review of the Mach 6. Just needed your final thoughts to push me over the edge. Will use your Running Warehouse link to order. Happy to support.
Very similar to the 1080 here - lots of cushion and squish. Stability is better in the more v5 and it picks up the pace better too because of the big rocker
No those are still one of my favorites! But I'd put them in a different category than these given the price, race foam and plate - might have to make a "comparing my favorite $200 training shoes" video 😂
I found the More to be clunky and slabby. I didn’t like it all. I was really disappointed after all your praise. Same with the Skyward X. Very ugly fit for a Hoka.
Hurricane looks like a good time on feet shoe, like people use the Hokas. Back from vacation so I have to catch up on a couple videos still. The Adizero SL2 was a fantastic do it all shoe. I did a lot of short to moderate runs plus walking all over London and various parts of Greece. The outsole still looks like brand new. Traction was solid on pavement, hard packed dirt, and gravel. Fine on wet pavement but a little sketchy on greasy wet surfaces and some of the slick marble sidewalks in Greece; I don't think anything would be great there. It was super comfortable to have on foot for hours and I never felt like it was flattening out. Soft but not mushy. I highly recommend as a workhorse do everything shoe for sub-150 lb runners. I don't think I can speak for bigger runners.
Yeah hurricane is amazing for that. I wore it all day yesterday for walking, errands etc after my morning run in it and it was so comfortable. Up there with the ghost max for great walking shoes And awesome update on the SL2. Adidas is undefeated when it comes to durability 💪🏽 I hope the trip was awesome. It'll be fun to do trips like that in a few years when the kids are older
You've mentioned before that race shoes get more views, but I'm glad you're covering the people's shoes and not chasing metrics. These comparisons are really useful!
Thank you! Let me know if there are other comparisons you wanna see 🙌🏽
Been waiting for a max cushion showdown! “This is going to be a titanic matchup for the ages, so get your gels ready, strap up, buckle in, let’s get into it!”
Totally relate to the comfort of running the same route. Definitely allows my mind to just relax and vibe. 🤙
Just picked up More V5 for my easy day shoe.
Huge improvement for me over the V4.
The V4 was unstable in the foam and the sidewalls caused blisters.
The V5 is more stable, wider, maybe not as soft in feel but just as forgiving on tired legs.
Been having shin splints and they make running doable while I heal back up.
I heard it’s softer and even more than the 1080
I got some, too! The heel feels sinky after runs, but I enjoy them. I also have SL2's and Endorphin Pro 4's
@@JeffHardyyyyy that’s an awesome rotation
@@JeffHardyyyyy I’ve been interested in the pro 4s, how do you like em?
@EmoneyXC I got them in thr mail yesterday. Ran a 5k in them today and got a PR. I have narrower feet, I love the way they fit. They have a perfect amount of stack in the forefoot. The rocker is not aggressive at all, but my feet felt great dur8ng and after the race! Would recommend. I'm 6'2", 238lb
I’m with you on running the some route. I have 2 routes I run consistently and do enjoy them. There is just something about knowing a familiar route that is cool. It’s fun to look back and compare runs from months back on each route and see progress. “ Hobby Jogger route” T shirt?
Is this a "UA-cam Short?"
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The hurricane is my new current fave. Super comfortable but also stable.
🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 I knew you'd like it!
I do run the same routes everyday either at home or at the lake..being able to stop by the house if the shoes aren't working on the day keeps me running every day regardless of the weather or how I feel that day..at the lake my route takes me by a couple of little stores that I can get a water and the route is a mix of dirt roads,trails and pavement..shade trees also make a sunny day better for my long runs..these dog days of summer can make it tough to stay motivated..a race every weekend helps my routine stay on course..I do like the softer shoes,but not the heavy ones..fortunately we can have softer and lighter shoes with some experience picking out what works for you..😊
Hurricane looks like a good time on feet shoe, like people use the Hokas.
Back from vacation so I have to catch up on a couple videos still. The Adizero SL2 was a fantastic do it all shoe. I did a lot of short to moderate runs plus walking all over London and various parts of Greece. The outsole still looks like brand new. Traction was solid on pavement, hard packed dirt, and gravel. Fine on wet pavement but a little sketchy on greasy wet surfaces and some of the slick marble sidewalks in Greece; I don't think anything would be great there.
It was super comfortable to have on foot for hours and I never felt like it was flattening out. Soft but not mushy. I highly recommend as a workhorse do everything shoe for sub-150 lb runners. I don't think I can speak for bigger runners.
Awesome video, because of you I bought the more v5, great proper in-depth review we require, thankyou
How are you finding them? I still can’t decide between these 😂
I got the 860v14 and I'm loving them. I am excited to try the new Saucony Tempus 2 when it releases!
Looking forward to both the 100 mile review.
Hope i can get them both on my proper fit. 😍
can't wait to get my hobby jogger cap!
Same! I’m broke from all the shoes but it’s on my list to get 😂
Let's go! Love both these shoes because of your review
Hope i can get the right fit (width) when it becomes available in my country.
Plus one on team same route . I got a 5 mile loop that got hills,straights and everything in between.
You and your neighborhood have some beautiful crape myrtles
I am here for the sub 30 min video!
I also just got the Hurricane today. Recommend these for heavier runners over More V5. I have both. Sad to say. The MorebV5 heels bottom out.. and I am dominated a midfoot striker. Love the NB but these Hurricanes are 🔥 amount of firmness
Ayyy glad you like the hurricane! I've had a few ppl now say the more bottoms out 😕 but hurricane is a great alternative
@supwell just finished my first 5 miles in them. Great shoe. I never heard of these til today. Sun & Ski had 1 pair. I got my More V5's from Fleet Feet so I will exchange them for the Balos next month. More V5 is a great walking shoe, but super mushy after I put miles in them.
@@JeffHardyyyyyheads up you may have the same issue with the balos - it's just as soft as the more v5 if not a little softer if that's even believable 😂 if you're looking for another cushioned shoe you may want to consider ghost max 2 or if you want new balance wait til the 1080v14 drops in September. I think that one will be a little firmer/more supportive than the more and balos
@supwell interesting! So, I love my SL2's. I have the 1080s for my daily shoe. I wear it to work. They're filthy! Honestly, I think I have my shoe line up, now. Between the SL2's, Hurricane 24's, and the Endorphin Pro 4's. I just love shoes. Waiting til September is definetly an option! All my shoes are so versatile. I can always just return to Fleet Feet, but they'll probably ban me once I do. Shoe #5 returned this year 🙈🤣🤣
@supwell I'm down from 262 to 237. So maybe in a couple months I won't be a "big runner" anymore 🤣
Asics Glideride Max is coming very soon either next months
Can’t wait 🎉
Love the Glideride 3, for a lighter runner this might be better suited for me than the heavier Hurricane or More V5
@@shanedorrian8192 285 g M, 250 g W the new model 👍🏻
@@shanedorrian8192 weights 285 M, 250 g W the new model
Weights 285g M, 250g W
How would you compare the upper of the more v5 to an invincible run 3 upper? I’m looking for a new daily and I’m on the tail end of my 3rd invincible run 3. I tried the gel nimbus 25 and that upper made my feet to hot. I bring that up because the more v5 upper looks similar to the gel nimbus 25
As the heavier and slower, mid/forefoot striker I cannot say how often I’ve had to donate a pair of great running shoes because the midsole had bottom out on me in the middle of the run (especially in the forefoot). The resilience of the foam is the deciding factor, the weight barely plays a role.
Hurricane would clearly be my pick.
I like cushion, but nothing worse than cushion that absorbs your energy and saps your strength. That said, I pretty much judge shoes based on whether they hurt my knees or not😂.
Dude me too and I'm on the heavier side of things at 183lbs...so I usually run in the firmer foams. The ride 17 has been decent for long runs...it's on the firmer side. Compliant foams like the 1080v13 and nimbus 25 simply give quickly into a long run
@@Frichilsasta08 This may be why I kinda bonked out on a long run today with the 1080v13. Never been able to take them comfortably past maybe 10km or even before that (seeing lots of 7 to 8km runs with some 10km runs peppered in my running history). They are so light and soft for me for the shorter runs though!
@spyderm4n yup. Definitely recommend a firmer foam...especially if you mid to forefoot strike so the foam actually gets better as you run longer. Pwrrun plus has been great for that
@@Frichilsasta08 man if only Saucony made wider shoes that fit me though. I see some good stuff from them!
Which one would you recommand for flat feet and overpronation ? Keep up the good work, love ur videos 🔥
Thank you! Definitely the hurricane 24 - it has more support built in
How's the Ghost Max 2 in the running? Or is the More V5 better liked?
I've gotta get some more miles in that but it's been great so far. More v5 is a lot softer which I know isn't everyone's cup of tea. Ghost max 2 will work much better if you need a more structured midsole to support weight/force
Thanks for such an excellent comparison! I have a question, with which of these two shoes would you say there is less sensation of the ground when you run or walk?
Hurricane 24 feels more protective. Foam on the more v5 is softer and compresses more, giving a little more ground feel
@@supwell thanks! 💪🏻
Lol, I’m about to watch this on the Wahoo, I think it’s gonna be great (although I’ll admit I didn’t expect to see Hurricane in the two best category)…
The hurricane, just by looking at it, looks like it has more of a 8 to 10mm drop...for a neutral runner, are the stability elements intrusive?
It feels like a moderate drop - def doesn't feel 8/10. There's a noticeable difference in drop feel from the Triumph 22 which was a 10mm - I think it may be a visual trick on this colorway with the midsole colors. In terms of stability the only thing noticeable as a neutral runner is the very secure and rigid heel piece in the upper. Other than that there's nothing overly notable about the stability
Ghost Max 2 vs Saucony Hurricane 24 for recovery? What do you think?
Need to get some more miles in the ghost max 2 soon and do that head to head - stay tuned!
I want the more v5, but don't really like any of the colorways.😅 I'm looking forward to you reviewing the pegasus plus. Also wondering what the Nike invincible 4 will be??
There is an blackout option
So what do you prefer for moderate long runs 2hrs ? Looking at ASICS , NB , or Saucony …
Would you say that the Hurricane 24 is the true legacy of the Triumph 20/21. Looking for a replacement for my favorite daily trainer and based on reviews it’s not the 22. Much appreciated 🙏🏼
I love the Hurricane but it's a lot heavier/more cushioned on foot. I actually did a video on this exact topic a few weeks ago! My top pick if you're looking for that cushioned workhorse daily is the Supernova Prima but I have some more recommendations in that video as well ua-cam.com/video/evP1-03sVow/v-deo.html
Also the true legacy would be the Ride 17 but they made that foam a lot firmer and it's really not an enjoyable experience. The other picks in the replacements video I did are much better
Would you rate the V5 for a cruiser runner needing comfort and stability but with some pop, not fast but looking at 2-3 hours on feet, 138 lbs 😂is that heavy 🤷♀️ had the shift 3 and enjoyed that foam kind off
Hurricane 24 for me, the v5 was just to squishy which can cause hip issues
Is it safe to use the More V5 for all day wear? Like 8 hours on feet, standing and walking?
I want to ask you whats is the best max cushion shoes i want to buy 2 only ,, for standing and walking may be a little bit slow running ?
Thank you
Hurricane vs Tempus? They seem pretty similar on paper
The tempus might be more more than an oz lighter and more nimble
I have both Hurricane are more stable. Tempus can pick up pace a little better for me.
Agreed with Katrina - Tempus is better for faster running. Hurricane is more of a slow cruiser. Hurricane for comfort and Tempus for speed
I've got both shoes, and if I had to pick just one, I'd go with the New Balance. But hey, I'm lucky I don't have to make that choice!😏🏃♂️➡️👟
Which do you find most stable
@@wendymackenzie7771 Hurricane 24 is more stable imo
Which one has more pop in your opinion ?
Those you're too old jokes come around the time your kids get 12-13. Prior to that you're the coolest person they know and with the flip of a switch you're the oldest person they know😂
What’s the best sneaker for working and standing 12hours a day something that at the end of the day your feet won’t hurt as much ?
Brooks ghost max! The original version not the 2. It's soft but supportive and has perfect cushion for standing all day. If you're in the US it's on sale right now for $120 as well. If you don't have brooks available near you then the Saucony hurricane 24 is a good choice as well. Similar qualities but a little bouncier and $160
I hope hurricane 24 of my size be in stock until year end sale because I've run 74 miles with my triumph 20 and they're still alive
Saucony hurricane 24 versus New balance 860 v13 or v14 they both seem to be similar.. which would you advise for daily wear shoes I'm not actually a runner just standing of my feet for hours at work and i need good stability.
For standing hours on feet I would highly recommend the hurricane 24! It's more cushioned than the new balance shoes and is one of my favorite comfort oriented shoes of the year
How do you compare these to Brooks Ghost Max 2 and Glycerin Max?
Full comparison with more v5 and glycerin max is going up tonight!
Ghost max 2 has more of a daily trainer feel - it's firmer and not as exciting, but a great no-frills shoe for everyday miles if you want a little bounce and good support. Also surprisingly fast
@@supwell Thank you. I can't find the video. Hope it comes out! :)
@@JPE_DRAEBhere you go! New videos usually go up 11:30pm ET New Balance More v5 vs Glycerin Max, Puma MagMax, Hoka Skyflow
ua-cam.com/video/45tb06Q7uUI/v-deo.html
Hi yowana
Again a great review. Delay car watch video to me:).
I do not no if you saw my last question and have time to response it would help. Or a roundup in recovery shoes with the adidas prima or hoka skyflow. You are I think the only guy that have test al those recovery minded shoes.
This was my last question.
if you rank your favo mid drop ~6mm from stiffer to softer recovery / lsd shoe it is like this? . 1 ghost max 2 2. Cloud monster 2,
3, guide 17, 4. nb trainer v3 5. Hoka skyward x 6.hurricane 24 and 7. More v5 (most soft ) This ultra boost has a higher drop >6 right
-adidas prima and skyflow.
Great work mate very impressive your effort and helping people choice shoes!!
Skyward X is my favorite of all those! I didn't put it in the same max cushion category as these since it has a plate, but that's my favorite all around shoe that can do every type of run. In terms of firm to soft it would go something like: guide 17, ghost max 2, skyward x, sc trainer v4, hurricane 24, more v5. Stay tuned for prima and Skyflow soon
Looks wise … who we going with ?
As a dad I’m feeling the hokacane in that color way … the more 5 just looks too crazy imo
i've been pulling for the hokacane nonstop for casual use since i got it. haven't worn the more v5 once 😬 so the saucony definitely gets it! btw supernova prima review coming very soon - thanks for the tip dude
@@supwell glad to hear we are on the same page!
Can’t wait for the Prima review. I hope you like it as much as I do. It definitely lacks a wow factor but its upper is great . Midsole Is stable , bouncy and dependable. Heard it’s 15% denser version of lightstrike pro . Really like it for long run, where I can set it and forget it type of long run (if that makes sense ). also I find myself running marathon pace in it (745) when I think I’m going easy (830) which is a good sign that it has bounce/ pop , considering it’s weight . Don’t want to sway you but those are just my thoughts at the 50 mile mark in it
@@BrendanWise-ze6ih no spoilers but i think we may be on the same page with this one again 😉
Just wondering since I have the More V3 for my easy runs, would you put the 860 v 14 in the same category as say the Novablast 4 as a daily trainer for say lighter runners, just want something to put on for those steady miles which doesn’t wear the sole down in say 200 miles ? The 860 to me looks better for my weight than say the 1080 which is maybe too soft.
Yeah 860 is definitely in that category for a durable daily. It's also a little easier to turn over than the novablast since there's not as much foam
860v14 vs hurricane in terms of softness/firmness?
Hurricane is maybe a little softer but biggest difference is stack height and bulk. 860 feels way lighter and more streamlined - I did a 21 mile long run in it with some 6:20 pace pick up miles at the end. I wouldn't dare to do something like that in the hurricane 😂 hurricane is more for plodding along in comfort and for me will max out at 12 miles / 90 mins
I'm a heal striker. 4mm drop doesn't work for me.
Q-What current shoe would you say offers the same experience as the Saucony speed3? I’m using the speed 3 as a daily trainer but also want another daily trainer without a plate. TIA
Hoka Mach 6 is the closest non plated to the speed 3 - soft, rockered, fun and fast. One of my top shoes of the year
@@supwell that’s what I was thinking after your review of the Mach 6. Just needed your final thoughts to push me over the edge. Will use your Running Warehouse link to order. Happy to support.
@@supwell oh thanks for taking a bit of time of your evening to answer my question. You know the rules😂❤️🔥
@@abelimages thanks so much abel! i appreciate it www.runningwarehouse.com/HOKA_Mach_6/descpage-HO6MM09.html?from=supwell
Would you say that the Hurricane felt softer than the Triumph?
Maybe a little softer but the package overall just felt more cohesive. Smoother, better rocker, improved landing feel from the lower drop
Where’s the 1080 v13 land?
Very similar to the 1080 here - lots of cushion and squish. Stability is better in the more v5 and it picks up the pace better too because of the big rocker
Ooo…Skywards are dethroned?!
Nooooo 😭 😱
No those are still one of my favorites! But I'd put them in a different category than these given the price, race foam and plate - might have to make a "comparing my favorite $200 training shoes" video 😂
@@supwell yea that would be sick actually, I’ve been looking at different $200+ shoes and it’s interesting how they can all have a different purpose
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Superblast 2: let me out
Stay tuned - been trying to find a buyer for my left kidney so I can snag a pair on the black market
Is this ASMR
I found the More to be clunky and slabby. I didn’t like it all. I was really disappointed after all your praise. Same with the Skyward X. Very ugly fit for a Hoka.
Rats 2nd
Nope and nope! 1080v13.
Hurricane looks like a good time on feet shoe, like people use the Hokas.
Back from vacation so I have to catch up on a couple videos still. The Adizero SL2 was a fantastic do it all shoe. I did a lot of short to moderate runs plus walking all over London and various parts of Greece. The outsole still looks like brand new. Traction was solid on pavement, hard packed dirt, and gravel. Fine on wet pavement but a little sketchy on greasy wet surfaces and some of the slick marble sidewalks in Greece; I don't think anything would be great there.
It was super comfortable to have on foot for hours and I never felt like it was flattening out. Soft but not mushy. I highly recommend as a workhorse do everything shoe for sub-150 lb runners. I don't think I can speak for bigger runners.
Yeah hurricane is amazing for that. I wore it all day yesterday for walking, errands etc after my morning run in it and it was so comfortable. Up there with the ghost max for great walking shoes
And awesome update on the SL2. Adidas is undefeated when it comes to durability 💪🏽 I hope the trip was awesome. It'll be fun to do trips like that in a few years when the kids are older
Traveling when they're little is a lot of work. Now that mine are teenagers, they're a net help but it does make the trip more expensive.