It 100% is and that’s totally on me there. Early on in the beta testing the vibrato wasn’t all the way dialed and I, mistakenly, read vibe as univibe and then just kind of wrote that segment off. Awkward.
Thanks for the video. I bought the M1 about a year ago and just couldn't get sounds I liked. It all seemed a bit muddy. I ran the M1 into the D1 then to a verb which didn't work for me. This morning I swapped the M1 to the end of the chain and wow. All the mud has turned to lush! I'm not sure how others are using the pedal, but if you don't have the M1 at the end of the chain, it might be worth trying it. Happy shoegazing everyone!
These are so fantastic. Such great reviews and I'm really glad they decided to do an M1. Just for some feedback on your video, I'm hearing a high pitch whine in your voice audio that goes in and out with the gate. It makes these a little harder to listen through, but just wanted to see if you could manage that for future videos! Thanks again for making this content.
Can't wait for this pedal. Gave you a subscribe. This was a really great in-depth review. I come from a synth background so I really apricated someone who actually knows what they're talking about and whats going on with the pedal. so much better than this knob makes it go wobbly etc.
Mark you are a tonal godsend! Your video’s are so in depth, such high quality, so pivotal to someone looking to invest in anything you’ve reviewed. Thank you for your videos and incredible playing!!!!
I suffer with terrible insomnia. But this pedal could be the answer.... Awesome demo Mark. I have the R1 because of your demo. I may have to get this too.
No wonder this thing took so long to release. That is an impressively deep feature set. Seems like what the UA audio Astra could have been if they were more focused on making a usable pedal instead of making money. Edit: just got to the wavy trem, I'm sold. They really went over and above here.
I had this exact thought. One preset on the Astra today is sad. They should have done a full-blown MIDI implementation. It’s the only reason I haven’t bought it.
Sounds great - thanks for making an in-depth vid. I oohed when you flipped to harmonic trem with panning. Looove it. One of my favorite settings on the Hydra as well. My favorite way to use phasers is big and slow also :) That brokary is so expressive!
Really loving your videos. I got the Specular Tempus after seeing your video on it. I'm about the pull the trigger on a mod. Which would you get if you could only get one? The M1 or the Synesthesia?
Thank you for another great video, Mark! Question: how do you decide between using your cali76 vs empress compressor? Do you use each for different applications? Thanks again!
hello, Always interesting and inspiring vid :) now, why would you (or anyone) still choose this one over the Boss MD200, or the GFI Synesthesia ? also, is there a way to get a choppy phaser ? this is mhat I like with the synesthesia, you can combine 2 effects at the same time ... Thnak you 🙂
Mark, HNY… great demo, as always! I’m loving the M1 (entirely based on your demo), and also love the D1 v2… I’m wondering how would you say they work together? I’m also looking at the Meris LVX (great demo as well), probably to cover both my delay and modulation needs… I do have an MC6, and have no problems dialing in presets as long as I have the C1 and C2 on the Meris ready to accommodate some parameters editing. I know they are all different, but I’m guessing I could do everything on the LVX on a mini board! Thanks a lot, keep up the amazing videos
Keen for this breakdown! Love how thorough you are with these videos. I've also noticed the last few videos seem to have a weird whistle/whine in your vocal mic that tracks your voice. Kinda like a CRT TV whine. Have you changed your mix setup recently?
Hi mark. Do you have a video on setting up your morningstar to control midi devices, specifically the walrus M1. I'm new to midi and having problems getting my mc6 mk1 to talk to the walrus M1. Thanks in advance.
Yeah ring sucks. It’s actually a result of some bad rendering in Premiere Pro’s final export of the video, not present in my DAW or in the actual edit. I just didn’t have time to review and re export the video while still getting it out on time. I’ve got one precious video on this channel where I’ve run afoul of this before.
@@markjohnstonofficial darn, I hate it when that happens. I can tell you dot every i and cross every t so I know that's frustrating. Alas, the tones and playing were awesome as always. Awesome review.
Hey Mark, how did you update your D1 V1’s firmware? I haven’t been able to find anything on the walrus audio website about how to do that. Any pointers would be a great help!
Hi Mark, great demo I love how in depth you go with your videos, do you know if it sums your stereo to mono? Wondering where I will put mine in my chain when I get one.
I think I just died, went to heaven, first thing I saw… Jesus presenting the most otherworldly modulation pedal ever created… that he made just for me.
Well this is going to make me ditch my Mid-Fi Pitch Pirate, and two of my Fairfield pedals. I LOVE the Fairfield stuff, but for what I do this has more usable high end that I like. I think this, the Slotva, my Red Panda Tensor and probably either the Chase Bliss Audio Blooper or/and the Red Panda Raster 2, and I should be alright!! For six months....
Oh the Raster 2 is unbelievable..The M1 is my next pedal.. The Meris Polymoon is on the way..can't wait to pair them all up along with my Immerse Mk 2..😋
Hey great video as always. Which one is the most versatile between the Walrus M1 and the GFI Synesthesia ? I just have the place for one pedal for modulation and I'm looking for a versatile one.
Mark, appreciate your demos and music! Currently have a D1 and R1…curious your thoughts on upgrading from D1v1 to v2? Can’t find any demos comparing the new stereo features yet.
I need to mess with mine more, i have it in the FX loop and it has a really drastic volume drop. Im gonna have to mess with it more and the position in my board its in. The only negative thing i can say about the pedal
Depends on the use case. ACS1 for low to mid gain amp tone, needing to run two amp modes or mixing and matching left and right IRs on the fly. Iridium when you need more amp gain (it has a lot more than then ACS1) or need to bypass the preamps to run it just as a cab sim after a different preamp / line level amp solution.
Mark- Great video. I see there's no "mix" control. Is that controlled by the depth knob? Otherwise, would lack of a mix control be a limitation here? One other question: would you put this before the Holograph Electronics Microcosm, in via stereo for example, our after the Microcosm? I'd guess before but would love your thoughts.
imo, there are only a couple modes in here that would benefit from a mix control so I see why it's not here (i.e. who needs a dry blend on a tremolo, a filter, or a vibrato?) and I would run this, like almost all stereo wet effects, after the microcosm. As a rule I keep the MC as close to the front of my chain as I can while still keeping it stereo.
I also have the Synethesia and I like it but its never wowed me.. All the the arp options are kind of too bland and not usable and the rest is good but not great. I use the dime c a lot and some trem or a high octave and thats about it!
I swapped my synthesia out for a mobius because I didn’t like how the midi inputs were like on the bottom of the pedal making it really hard to place on my board. I feel like this pedal will be easier to configure because there’s not a ton of hidden menus and it’s easy to save whereas on the synthase easier learning how to configure and set presets took me a while and nothing really wowed me. However I don’t think any mod pedal will ever dethrone my mobius because of the Destroyer effect.
@@stephenmestrada I think I'd like to give this M1 a try. I never got a Mobius because it's too big and I don't use modulation that much. I have a Fulltone DejaVibe that I love and also a Maxon Stereo chorus that I bought back in 2003 or so. But other than that, I've been using an H9 for mods. I have considered a Synesthesia, but never actually pulled the trigger. I do need Midi these days, so this fits the bill well.
Just got mine, I have to say I'm fairly disappointed. Even with the extra DB boost the harmonic trem is really bad. There's a very noticeable volume drop, then when I sweep the type to standard trem the volume comes up a ton. Such a bummer when a staple effect like harmonic trem is executed so poorly. Does yours do this too?
@@walrusaudioeffects killer, thaks guys. Gracious of you to respond. One more question if you don't mind. I'm probably going to do the whole maco series but I'm curious about order. Would you go gtr > dry / mono fx > m1 > acs1 > d1 > r1? Or maybe acs 1 at the end? Or m1 after acs1? Probably a taste / context thing but I'd love your thoughts.
I literally bought Flint like less than a week from this releasing🤦🏻♂️.They tricked me with releasing the Slotva. It sounds amazing. I have the R1. It will not work right in my effects loop. I have to run it straight into the front which kind of limits it. Does anyone else have that problem?
I don't know if it's just me, never noticed this with your videos before, but there is a really annoying high pitch noise when you talk - some mic interference probably. just something to look out for.
Walrus just released a new version of the D1 that has the USB port found on the rest of their Mako line allowing for firmware updates. I have a Frankenstein D1 (old enclosure with the new hardware inside) D1 that Walrus sent out for beta testing the new firmware; which is why mine looks like the old one but has the new firmware
That’s awesome that you have a relationship with them, man. They’re teaming up with the right UA-camr! Killer ambient tones, engaging tunes, great info, NOT BORING. 👍🏼
Mine is something of a Frankenstein; this is the new guts / circuitry in an old enclosure with a hole drilled in the side for the USB port that I got from Walrus for beta testing the firmware.
I dunno man... it says high fidelity on the box... but when I compare it to my Mercury 7 or Ventris or Big sky... the sound quality doesn't sound as clean to me... just a tad muddy... most people wont notice it:.: but I do.... I put it once on one of my boards but I took it down and I just can't see myself using it again... the spring mode is not up to par to ventris or strymon... and hall and plate just lack detail
@@markjohnstonofficial yeah I see - I am currently trying to decide between the UAFX Astra, the Walrus M1 and the GFI Synesthesia - I only need one modulation effect at a time, but I am looking for the most natural/organic sounding (MIDI is a plus)
sounds pretty sterile tbh, that's my main issue with the Mako series. Cool pedals with rad functionality but they sound lifeless. Also seems like for 350 bucks they could have included dual DSP integration for running more than one effect at a time like most of the other big box mod pedals out rn
@@markjohnstonofficial I listened again, about 20 mins in, and again the hair on arms stood up. It didn't sound bad, but it somehow triggered a neurological effect in me, I felt agitated and uneasy and had to stop it.
Hey man, isn’t it *vibrato* and not *univibe* tho?
It 100% is and that’s totally on me there. Early on in the beta testing the vibrato wasn’t all the way dialed and I, mistakenly, read vibe as univibe and then just kind of wrote that segment off. Awkward.
Also, I went ahead and pinned your comment so that my response will hopefully alert others to this
@@markjohnstonofficial all good dude, I’m a huge vibrato freak so my radar went up when you mentioned univibe, otherwise great video!
They also market the mode #3 phaser as a univibe type sound to add to this confusion 🤣 we gettin’ messy, y’all :)
Thanks for the video. I bought the M1 about a year ago and just couldn't get sounds I liked. It all seemed a bit muddy. I ran the M1 into the D1 then to a verb which didn't work for me. This morning I swapped the M1 to the end of the chain and wow. All the mud has turned to lush! I'm not sure how others are using the pedal, but if you don't have the M1 at the end of the chain, it might be worth trying it. Happy shoegazing everyone!
I love modulation after reverb! But i’m a big fan of Cocteau Twins and Slowdive so. That checks out. 👌
As always, your demos are amazing, Mark! Wasn't expecting this pedal from the team at Walrus Audio but now I want it.. bad! :)
Gonna have to eat some mushrooms and test this pedal out. Another amazing demo from you, always look forward to these uploads of yours
I’ve had the M1 for a month now and this video opened a whole new world for me. Awesome job!! Thank you
These are so fantastic. Such great reviews and I'm really glad they decided to do an M1. Just for some feedback on your video, I'm hearing a high pitch whine in your voice audio that goes in and out with the gate. It makes these a little harder to listen through, but just wanted to see if you could manage that for future videos! Thanks again for making this content.
Can't wait for this pedal. Gave you a subscribe. This was a really great in-depth review. I come from a synth background so I really apricated someone who actually knows what they're talking about and whats going on with the pedal. so much better than this knob makes it go wobbly etc.
My most eagerly anticipated pedal of 2022. I’m hoping to drown my sorrows in chorus and tremolo with this pedal.
The space/reverb on the rotary setting is unique. It sounds like it's from inside the leslie...fantastic
After the intro song was over, I immediately hit rewind and listened again 😀
Mark you are a tonal godsend! Your video’s are so in depth, such high quality, so pivotal to someone looking to invest in anything you’ve reviewed. Thank you for your videos and incredible playing!!!!
I suffer with terrible insomnia. But this pedal could be the answer.... Awesome demo Mark. I have the R1 because of your demo. I may have to get this too.
Got one of these coming very excited to play it
Wow, this pedal is precisely what I've been after!
Man what are these chords you always make ?! Can’t get enough of them !
No wonder this thing took so long to release. That is an impressively deep feature set.
Seems like what the UA audio Astra could have been if they were more focused on making a usable pedal instead of making money.
Edit: just got to the wavy trem, I'm sold. They really went over and above here.
I had this exact thought. One preset on the Astra today is sad. They should have done a full-blown MIDI implementation. It’s the only reason I haven’t bought it.
Still blown away that UA didn’t make all of their pedals 3.5mm MIDI
Exactly
oh, oh dang what. I don’t often gush over pedals but this is beautiful haha
This whole channel is just a long con to turn you into a pedal nerd. I can feel it in my bones; it’s inevitable
What can i say! You make great videos love the vybe! Keep up the beautiful content!WONDERFUL SOUL
Sounds great - thanks for making an in-depth vid. I oohed when you flipped to harmonic trem with panning. Looove it. One of my favorite settings on the Hydra as well.
My favorite way to use phasers is big and slow also :)
That brokary is so expressive!
how does it compare to other multi modulation pedals like the Synesthesia
there's a really high pitch noise that starts at the review portion of the video. don't suppose there's any way of getting rid of it after the upload?
makes it unwatchable for me honestly
Now they jacked the chase Bliss form factor
2019 was a great vintage for hot takes, excellent choice.
Really loving your videos. I got the Specular Tempus after seeing your video on it. I'm about the pull the trigger on a mod. Which would you get if you could only get one? The M1 or the Synesthesia?
Can you get QTRON type sounds out of this? Think 311s “Amber” main riff. I’m looking for a multi-effect modulation pedal with that sound in it.
Thank you for another great video, Mark! Question: how do you decide between using your cali76 vs empress compressor? Do you use each for different applications? Thanks again!
Awesome video, thank you mate !
What are those patch-cables please ?
31:39 this is the sound! ❤
hello, Always interesting and inspiring vid :)
now, why would you (or anyone) still choose this one over the Boss MD200, or the GFI Synesthesia ?
also, is there a way to get a choppy phaser ?
this is mhat I like with the synesthesia, you can combine 2 effects at the same time ...
Thnak you 🙂
Mark, HNY… great demo, as always!
I’m loving the M1 (entirely based on your demo), and also love the D1 v2… I’m wondering how would you say they work together?
I’m also looking at the Meris LVX (great demo as well), probably to cover both my delay and modulation needs… I do have an MC6, and have no problems dialing in presets as long as I have the C1 and C2 on the Meris ready to accommodate some parameters editing.
I know they are all different, but I’m guessing I could do everything on the LVX on a mini board!
Thanks a lot, keep up the amazing videos
Keen for this breakdown! Love how thorough you are with these videos.
I've also noticed the last few videos seem to have a weird whistle/whine in your vocal mic that tracks your voice. Kinda like a CRT TV whine. Have you changed your mix setup recently?
Hi mark. Do you have a video on setting up your morningstar to control midi devices, specifically the walrus M1. I'm new to midi and having problems getting my mc6 mk1 to talk to the walrus M1. Thanks in advance.
Fyi you should low pass your vocal mic. There is a 16k is constant ring when your mic is open.
Also, this demo is epic. Sorry, didn't mean to come on with the negative feedback first. I'm buying this pedal for sure.
Yeah ring sucks. It’s actually a result of some bad rendering in Premiere Pro’s final export of the video, not present in my DAW or in the actual edit. I just didn’t have time to review and re export the video while still getting it out on time. I’ve got one precious video on this channel where I’ve run afoul of this before.
@@markjohnstonofficial darn, I hate it when that happens. I can tell you dot every i and cross every t so I know that's frustrating. Alas, the tones and playing were awesome as always. Awesome review.
Hey Mark, how did you update your D1 V1’s firmware? I haven’t been able to find anything on the walrus audio website about how to do that. Any pointers would be a great help!
Hi Mark, great demo I love how in depth you go with your videos, do you know if it sums your stereo to mono? Wondering where I will put mine in my chain when I get one.
If you have the delay before mod it spells MIDI. Here to serve people, I’m here to serve. 😉
That intro
You can program the MC8 to blink the preset your'e on 👍
I think I just died, went to heaven, first thing I saw… Jesus presenting the most otherworldly modulation pedal ever created… that he made just for me.
Kinda gheyyyyyyyy
Massive stereo LoFi reverb in a modulation pedal? .....I might just need one pedal now?
Well this is going to make me ditch my Mid-Fi Pitch Pirate, and two of my Fairfield pedals. I LOVE the Fairfield stuff, but for what I do this has more usable high end that I like. I think this, the Slotva, my Red Panda Tensor and probably either the Chase Bliss Audio Blooper or/and the Red Panda Raster 2, and I should be alright!! For six months....
Oh the Raster 2 is unbelievable..The M1 is my next pedal.. The Meris Polymoon is on the way..can't wait to pair them all up along with my Immerse Mk 2..😋
I KNEW IT! YES!
Hey great video as always.
Which one is the most versatile between the Walrus M1 and the GFI Synesthesia ? I just have the place for one pedal for modulation and I'm looking for a versatile one.
Both very versatile. My recommendation is to pick the one that has the engines you want / like the most.
I’m in the same consideration,what did you end up with?
Very nice sounding pedal with huge functionality. Does it have mix control or kill-dry mode btw? Or is it not usable with this kind of effects?
Mark, appreciate your demos and music! Currently have a D1 and R1…curious your thoughts on upgrading from D1v1 to v2? Can’t find any demos comparing the new stereo features yet.
Mark was raving about the update on one of his Instagram posts. Apparently it’s worth it :)
@@redwood-in-stereo He was right!
I need to mess with mine more, i have it in the FX loop and it has a really drastic volume drop. Im gonna have to mess with it more and the position in my board its in. The only negative thing i can say about the pedal
Thanks for the vid. I have an M1 and TBH I struggle to find the difference between the different types. All of them have a tremolo affect gets boring.
Mark! Amazing video. Q: Iridium or ACS1 and why? I see you rocking the little yellow guy suddenly
Depends on the use case. ACS1 for low to mid gain amp tone, needing to run two amp modes or mixing and matching left and right IRs on the fly. Iridium when you need more amp gain (it has a lot more than then ACS1) or need to bypass the preamps to run it just as a cab sim after a different preamp / line level amp solution.
is the D1 v2 just a firmware update ? - really great song and demo !!
New hardware as well
@@markjohnstonofficial thanks Mark !!
Mark- Great video. I see there's no "mix" control. Is that controlled by the depth knob? Otherwise, would lack of a mix control be a limitation here? One other question: would you put this before the Holograph Electronics Microcosm, in via stereo for example, our after the Microcosm? I'd guess before but would love your thoughts.
imo, there are only a couple modes in here that would benefit from a mix control so I see why it's not here (i.e. who needs a dry blend on a tremolo, a filter, or a vibrato?) and I would run this, like almost all stereo wet effects, after the microcosm. As a rule I keep the MC as close to the front of my chain as I can while still keeping it stereo.
@@markjohnstonofficial Thanks. Just ordered one of these, dang. Was hoping not to buy more pedals this year. Oh.
@@JohnWWarrenGuitar a bold claim in January to be sure.
@@markjohnstonofficial Yes, indeed. But way too many last year. I’m on a pedal diet, or should be.
Finally!
This vs GFI Synesthesia? I've just got the Synesthesia and would love to know if making the change for the small footprint worth it
On the same boat here. Trying to decide between this, Synesthesia, or just running one of my H9s.
One is a smoky grey and a bit fatter, and the other is a nice Yale blue with an assortment of carnivorous fish and aquatic mammals.
I also have the Synethesia and I like it but its never wowed me.. All the the arp options are kind of too bland and not usable and the rest is good but not great. I use the dime c a lot and some trem or a high octave and thats about it!
I swapped my synthesia out for a mobius because I didn’t like how the midi inputs were like on the bottom of the pedal making it really hard to place on my board. I feel like this pedal will be easier to configure because there’s not a ton of hidden menus and it’s easy to save whereas on the synthase easier learning how to configure and set presets took me a while and nothing really wowed me. However I don’t think any mod pedal will ever dethrone my mobius because of the Destroyer effect.
@@stephenmestrada I think I'd like to give this M1 a try. I never got a Mobius because it's too big and I don't use modulation that much. I have a Fulltone DejaVibe that I love and also a Maxon Stereo chorus that I bought back in 2003 or so. But other than that, I've been using an H9 for mods. I have considered a Synesthesia, but never actually pulled the trigger. I do need Midi these days, so this fits the bill well.
Just got mine, I have to say I'm fairly disappointed. Even with the extra DB boost the harmonic trem is really bad. There's a very noticeable volume drop, then when I sweep the type to standard trem the volume comes up a ton. Such a bummer when a staple effect like harmonic trem is executed so poorly. Does yours do this too?
Time stamp on the verb?
Mark, do you know if you can do a trem verb with that bult in reverb?
If you add in "space" under the Tweak knob, you totally will have a trem verb.
@@walrusaudioeffects killer, thaks guys. Gracious of you to respond. One more question if you don't mind. I'm probably going to do the whole maco series but I'm curious about order. Would you go gtr > dry / mono fx > m1 > acs1 > d1 > r1? Or maybe acs 1 at the end? Or m1 after acs1? Probably a taste / context thing but I'd love your thoughts.
@@walrusaudioeffects hey there, does the trem effect the space trails (trem after verb) or the other way around?
Does the filter do traditional funk envelope filter sounds?
Would also like to know this…
I know it's a pain....but could you chapter the sound samples individually?
You’re totally correct, thus no. But if someone wants to comment the time stamps I’ll totally pin that comment.
I literally bought Flint like less than a week from this releasing🤦🏻♂️.They tricked me with releasing the Slotva. It sounds amazing. I have the R1. It will not work right in my effects loop. I have to run it straight into the front which kind of limits it. Does anyone else have that problem?
To be fair the flint is EXCELLENT.
I don't know if it's just me, never noticed this with your videos before, but there is a really annoying high pitch noise when you talk - some mic interference probably. just something to look out for.
Awesome as always, thanks so much!! You mention the Mako D1 running the new V2 firmware update I think. How did you do that? Much love!
Walrus just released a new version of the D1 that has the USB port found on the rest of their Mako line allowing for firmware updates. I have a Frankenstein D1 (old enclosure with the new hardware inside) D1 that Walrus sent out for beta testing the new firmware; which is why mine looks like the old one but has the new firmware
@@markjohnstonofficial oh that’s why!! Thanks so much! :)
I came here to say this… but knew in my heart it had already been said. Was hoping to grab that new firmware!
That’s awesome that you have a relationship with them, man. They’re teaming up with the right UA-camr! Killer ambient tones, engaging tunes, great info, NOT BORING. 👍🏼
No flanger?? Man…
How do you have the v1 d1 but have the firmware update for v2?
Mine is something of a Frankenstein; this is the new guts / circuitry in an old enclosure with a hole drilled in the side for the USB port that I got from Walrus for beta testing the firmware.
Thanks for the reply! Great video and beautiful music!
I dunno man... it says high fidelity on the box... but when I compare it to my Mercury 7 or Ventris or Big sky... the sound quality doesn't sound as clean to me... just a tad muddy... most people wont notice it:.: but I do.... I put it once on one of my boards but I took it down and I just can't see myself using it again... the spring mode is not up to par to ventris or strymon... and hall and plate just lack detail
So this is a modulation pedal...
So Walrus M1 or GFI Synesthesia?🤔
Depends
@@markjohnstonofficial on what? :)
@@aleksmayer5907 what size you need, what engines you like the sound of more, what effects are deal breaker, etc.
@@markjohnstonofficial yeah I see - I am currently trying to decide between the UAFX Astra, the Walrus M1 and the GFI Synesthesia - I only need one modulation effect at a time, but I am looking for the most natural/organic sounding (MIDI is a plus)
GFI easily.
I guess this man like offsets
I was making a univibe my next purchase..hmm
Wait… isn’t it vibrato, and not univibe? I’m just a caveman, could be wrong
sounds pretty sterile tbh, that's my main issue with the Mako series. Cool pedals with rad functionality but they sound lifeless. Also seems like for 350 bucks they could have included dual DSP integration for running more than one effect at a time like most of the other big box mod pedals out rn
with all the lofi features here, that is a seriously hot take.
I agree it sounds sterile and flat..
Jesus? Am I in heaven??
Merci !
first
If someone told you that the "ping-pong" audio effect was good for anything other than driving a person to the point of familicide they were lying...
Ooh we’re gonna heavily disagree on that front.
@@markjohnstonofficial I listened again, about 20 mins in, and again the hair on arms stood up. It didn't sound bad, but it somehow triggered a neurological effect in me, I felt agitated and uneasy and had to stop it.
@@paulcargo4233 you should drink some tea
@@paulcargo4233 Yeah, no ill effect for me but I'm kinda with you. It's like an audible version of motion sickness
LOL, I hate ping pong!
Merci !