Great Players of the Past: Ron Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2022
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold lectures on his late father, Ron Finegold. He was one of the top 50 players in the USA for much of the early 1960s.
    Recorded on October 10, 2022. Thanks to Josh Yates for requesting this lecture!
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  • @ArnoldMiggy
    @ArnoldMiggy Рік тому +234

    I never knew Ben had a father

    • @luxwutang
      @luxwutang Рік тому +27

      i thought Ben was here before time itself

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz Рік тому +14

      Ben: "Ben, I am your father"
      Ben: "Nooooo, it's impossible!"

    • @seanyager3177
      @seanyager3177 Рік тому +3

      No... Ben *IS* the Father.

    • @Flight368
      @Flight368 Рік тому +4

      Yeas, his farther even had a friend who was a burger. Damn, life in America is wonderful.

    • @duncanglen3452
      @duncanglen3452 Рік тому +7

      It happened before he was born

  • @rathelmmc3194
    @rathelmmc3194 Рік тому +104

    I like how Ben casually throws one of the saddest things said at the end of the video. Spend time with your parents people.

  • @ericmcdonough6771
    @ericmcdonough6771 Рік тому +15

    you a real nigga for doing this. thanks ben

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 5 місяців тому +4

      fr fr no cap fam 💯💯💯

    • @danielcrase
      @danielcrase 4 місяці тому +2

      Yall killing me 😂

  • @phihalbe7448
    @phihalbe7448 Рік тому +80

    frankly thankful.

  • @thedamnmoron
    @thedamnmoron Рік тому +77

    Damn the Church's chicken story is really interesting, I love how Finegold's lectures are always filled with stories like these
    Edit: the ending gave me the feels man

    • @JM-tj5qm
      @JM-tj5qm 7 місяців тому +1

      Ben is the best

  • @friendalex7384
    @friendalex7384 Рік тому +26

    Ben's Midwestern accent really comes out when he says the phrase "my dad". Frankly, adorable.

  • @Into-The-Light
    @Into-The-Light Рік тому +17

    "Ben and his Dad were like that, Son!"
    Sun Tzu, probably.

  • @TonyWest77
    @TonyWest77 Рік тому +34

    I always liked Ron. Super nice, no matter who won our game (I probably played him 5 times). He was always willing to analyze our games, even though he was always higher rated than me.

    • @NJ-wb1cz
      @NJ-wb1cz Рік тому +1

      Way to underhandedly sneak in there that you beat him

    • @etymonlegomenon931
      @etymonlegomenon931 Рік тому +6

      You must be the father of Grandmaster Ken West!

    • @etymonlegomenon931
      @etymonlegomenon931 Рік тому +8

      @@NJ-wb1cz Literally went out of his way to keep it ambiguous who won, lost, or drew

    • @TonyWest77
      @TonyWest77 Рік тому +12

      @@etymonlegomenon931 exactly! Some people just love to stir up shit. Ben was actually my coach 20 yrs ago.

  • @clevelandbrown7516
    @clevelandbrown7516 Рік тому +17

    That ending though
    The truth really do hurt sometimes

    • @prot07ype87
      @prot07ype87 Рік тому

      It really do be like that sometimes.

  • @twelfthdoc
    @twelfthdoc Рік тому +45

    I was wondering if we were going to see a game between Mr Finegold and Ben, and I wasn't disappointed!
    Real emotion at the end though, I'm sure that he was proud. Please pass our love and admiration on to Mrs Finegold too 💙

  • @MrYoungHegelian
    @MrYoungHegelian Рік тому +29

    Thank you to Mr and Mrs Finegold for giving us the one and only Chad GM Ben Finegold.
    Seriously though your lectures on openings and great players of the past are the best on UA-cam It helps a lot of chess fans from all over the world.

  • @jashyotes
    @jashyotes Рік тому +19

    Horray! Sorry I wasn't able to make it to the stream. Thanks for uploading, Ben.

  • @DreamyJives
    @DreamyJives Рік тому +15

    It’s called Church’s Chicken because you have to pray to God that you don’t poop your pants after eating it. True story.

    • @chucknola484
      @chucknola484 Рік тому +3

      It probably was really good when the original guy was in charge. Same for KFC.

  • @SeddincY
    @SeddincY 2 місяці тому

    that ending from Ben is the first time I've seen him saying something really heartfelt.

  • @Cyber_Elf_Elpizo
    @Cyber_Elf_Elpizo 2 місяці тому

    Your father Ron Finegold seems like quite the inspiration, his peak reminds me of how chess was unique in the 1960s, the only time NM Bernard Parham (a local notable figure) won a state championship.

  • @fightinggamesforever3364
    @fightinggamesforever3364 Рік тому +7

    My dad taught me chess too. Not to this standard, of course, but I remember getting my first chess board and pieces one Christmas. Then the following year he bought me a chess engine machine, so I had a "strong" opponent to play against (as long as it didn't crash when you were entering a move, which was frustrating on higher settings as it took hours per move). Good times. My dad passed away over 20 years ago now, and I still miss him every day Ben. That's just proof to me you are a nice person. Keep on doing you, my dude.

  • @AquaticSkipper
    @AquaticSkipper Рік тому +9

    This is a beautiful lecture, he'd be so proud. Made me want to show my dad more appreciation

  • @The3p3hr
    @The3p3hr Рік тому +5

    Wish your dad peace in rest and a Long Happy life for yourself Sir

  • @Guccipoet23
    @Guccipoet23 Рік тому +4

    I was a student of Ron’s in Flint, MI back when he had a chess store there…good times. Learned a lot

  • @wooki321
    @wooki321 Рік тому +7

    you know, i can’t shake the feeling that the guy Ben is lecturing on here might be his dad

  • @gwenroberts8649
    @gwenroberts8649 Рік тому +1

    That was fun! Thanks!

  • @guylee0
    @guylee0 Рік тому +1

    Excellent tribute. Good video

  • @HereWasDede
    @HereWasDede Рік тому +9

    Go Josh yates

  • @haimkichik
    @haimkichik Рік тому +1

    Nice episode! Thank u Ben.

  • @biggsweaty
    @biggsweaty Рік тому +1

    I appreciate you Ben. Thanks for what you do.

  • @r.mcdonnell8614
    @r.mcdonnell8614 Рік тому +5

    I used to live in Odessa with my ex, who was my fiancee at the time, and I remember seeing a lot of Church's chicken places. She and I sometimes went there after we both got home from work. Very cool story about its Chess connection!

    • @Nekromageofapocalyp
      @Nekromageofapocalyp Рік тому +4

      For a moment, i was wondering why would this chiken place be so popular in ukraine...

    • @r.mcdonnell8614
      @r.mcdonnell8614 Рік тому +1

      @@Nekromageofapocalyp haha sorry yeah Odessa Texas. I used to always just say "we live near Midland" since people know that name better

  • @toniright4932
    @toniright4932 Рік тому +2

    Thank you, Ben. Beautiful lecture.

  • @network_noob
    @network_noob Рік тому +1

    Damn it was really sad at the end. Thanks for the lecture Ben!

  • @a_floppy_boy1346
    @a_floppy_boy1346 Рік тому +2

    The last few family stories reminded me of my grandfather who passed away when I was 13, he taught me how to play and what I wouldn’t give to play one more game with him.

  • @goldenhawx8652
    @goldenhawx8652 Рік тому +1

    Ayyy another lecture!

  • @TalsBadKidney
    @TalsBadKidney Рік тому

    The one I've been waiting for!!

  • @pseudosam2458
    @pseudosam2458 Рік тому +3

    Ben is right about AC. It was a luxury option in some cars in the early 60s, but most of them didn't have it.

  • @Kirmo13
    @Kirmo13 Рік тому

    Very interesting lecture !!

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579

    The internets tells me that air conditioning was first put into cars in the early 40s. In the 60s (not sure when in the 60s), about 20% of cars had air conditioning, but 80% of cars in the southwest had air-conditioning. The first time air-conditioning was not an extra charge, but was standard, was in a certain model in 1968.

  • @hunter-tm2kl
    @hunter-tm2kl Рік тому +4

    go ron!

  • @petermccafferty9230
    @petermccafferty9230 Рік тому +5

    lovely lecture Ben a wonderful tribute to your father!

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil Рік тому

    This is a real reminder that our time with our parents isn't infinite. My dad doesn't play chess, though, so Ben is extremely fortunate to have shared that with his own father.

  • @jorymil
    @jorymil Рік тому

    There are a lot of places where A/C still isn't really needed. I used to live in New England, and mostly survived on a diet of box fans and window units not turned on until July. We think of it as normal, but it's really energy-hungry. Don't turn it on if you don't need it, folks!

  • @caesarsailor4051
    @caesarsailor4051 Рік тому

    Great story!

  • @emailjwr
    @emailjwr Рік тому +1

    Rawr! Go Ben's dad!

  • @PsychedelicRealities
    @PsychedelicRealities Рік тому +1

    Go Finegolds! Thanks Ben.

  • @ibazulic
    @ibazulic Рік тому

    I currently live in Canada. My whole family is in Europe. I miss my family.

  • @duncanglen3452
    @duncanglen3452 Рік тому

    Thanks Ben

  • @ahrrydepp493
    @ahrrydepp493 Рік тому +2

    May he rest in peace, your videos are awesome man never stop

  • @louisalvarado4272
    @louisalvarado4272 Рік тому +1

    San Antonio Texas is still hot! My dad taught me to play chess when I was eight, after Bobby Fischer became world champion. I won the Texas Futurity tournament in 1979. I was 13 years old. I miss my dad too! He died when I was 22.

  • @markoatf5121
    @markoatf5121 Рік тому +8

    this video, is not only about " great chess player ", it's about GM son pay respect to his father!!! at the end of day FAMILY LOVE, RESPECT IS EVERYTHING!!!
    BIG LIKE FROM ME

  • @terribleteacher
    @terribleteacher Рік тому

    Awesome 👍

  • @16960734
    @16960734 Рік тому +1

    Very nice video

  • @Antipodeano
    @Antipodeano Рік тому +2

    Favourite lecture - great stories, great dad, and a great son, he must have been very proud of you. My dad and I have played competitive golf and football (soccer) together, so I can relate.

  • @atomiclemon77
    @atomiclemon77 Рік тому

    I missed these videos.

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, A/C was mostly an option except in the deep south where it was fairly common. Up north, say Ohio/Pennsylvania definitely not standard equipment.

  • @scooterthepiggypigpig4625
    @scooterthepiggypigpig4625 Рік тому

    Eye love Ben Finegold!!!

  • @drewa2
    @drewa2 Рік тому +1

    I wish I had spent time and played some games with Ron on a regular basis. Time flies, you get busy. Regrets.

  • @Ricardo-zv8or
    @Ricardo-zv8or Рік тому

    Go Finegolds!

  • @HereWasDede
    @HereWasDede Рік тому

    Yes

  • @aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3
    @aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3 9 місяців тому

    Nice lecture, you’re the BenjaMAN

  • @loganmyall660
    @loganmyall660 Рік тому

    Interesting facts: this GW church is actually GW church Jr, his father started church's chicken and passed away in 1956. Bill, or GW Jr, started operations around 1962. So it's possible this is one of if not his first public efforts to advertise his business after his father passed.

  • @paulgarrett
    @paulgarrett Рік тому

    No, they did not have AC in those days... And, if you did install them as an add-on, they'd cause the engine to overheat... on hot days. :)

  • @wyomingtreeplanter
    @wyomingtreeplanter Рік тому +1

    Marshall Rohland was USCF president from 1966-1969.

  • @thedigitalnerds
    @thedigitalnerds 4 місяці тому

    We'll never know which of those is Ben's dad because the pointer was disabled. God Damnnn.

  • @paulgarrett
    @paulgarrett Рік тому

    There was no interstate highway system in 1962, so it'd have been 2-lane roads, with tractors and slow trucks... :)

  • @headholio
    @headholio Рік тому

    I miss my dad too.

  • @muradnnolaki6788
    @muradnnolaki6788 Рік тому

    this family deserves a "succession-promotion" series...

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 Рік тому

    BTW, congrats Ben on doing a lecture on your father. Good son.

  • @Nick2014B
    @Nick2014B Рік тому

    Someone please sponsor Judit Polgar such a beast

  • @chrismyers7433
    @chrismyers7433 Рік тому

    The 1940 Packard was the first car with factory-installed air conditioning.

  • @burningspirit7874
    @burningspirit7874 Рік тому +1

    hello great dad of the past who also happens to be a great chess player of the past aka your father

  • @FlashNorton
    @FlashNorton Рік тому

    38:22 And don’t call me Shirley.

  • @pdeepak88
    @pdeepak88 5 місяців тому

  • @Bozothcow
    @Bozothcow Рік тому

    Only Ben could find a way to lecture about AC during a chess game.

  • @TheDavedevil619
    @TheDavedevil619 Рік тому

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @jthrash9081
    @jthrash9081 Рік тому

    Hey I'm from toledo!

  • @woodandwandco
    @woodandwandco Рік тому +1

    "I've had this position as white and black, but not at the same time." -Ben Finegold 2022

  • @AlexRochette
    @AlexRochette Рік тому +1

    Are you the kid playing Master Ron Finegold in the thumbnail?

  • @areirving
    @areirving Рік тому

    Ben, have you ever played or heard of Rex Wilcox?

  • @LukePettit
    @LukePettit Рік тому

    By 1960 about 20% of all cars in the U.S. had air-conditioning, with the percentage increasing to 80% in the warm areas of the Southwest.

  • @ankalagonchik
    @ankalagonchik Рік тому

    As we all knew ( °~°) Ben had a father before he was born

  • @peterthebear1184
    @peterthebear1184 5 місяців тому

    12:10

  • @raskalnekov
    @raskalnekov Рік тому

    Mr. Church didn't have a prayer

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 Рік тому +1

    _"By 1969, more than half of all new cars sold were equipped with A/C"_
    The more you know. I swear in the 90s we drove without any A/C 100% though.

    • @sasquatch2
      @sasquatch2 Рік тому +3

      My first car (1988 Micra) had 2 by 100 model air conditioning: 2 windows down, drive 100 km/hr

    • @edmis90
      @edmis90 Рік тому

      @@sasquatch2 LOL

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol2652 Рік тому

    It's tough for old people to play a 6 hours long game but for a 10 years old kid? I would think it is impossible. Unbelievable.

  • @anonymouscantor7036
    @anonymouscantor7036 Рік тому

    Can I take up your offer to have you sponsor me, in order for me to sponsor you?

  • @somebodyelse5784
    @somebodyelse5784 Рік тому

    If you turn the W on its head, you get GM Church. So close

  • @guitarmachine13
    @guitarmachine13 Рік тому

    His name is hard to pronounce, so he must be good!!

  • @Pedone_Rosso
    @Pedone_Rosso Рік тому +1

    Minute 25...
    My car doesn't have air conditioning in 2022.
    Which is good as prolonged AC exposure gives me bronchitis.
    Thanks for your videos!

  • @b3p1s
    @b3p1s Рік тому +3

    Since Ben told me to go vegan i have no other choice but to retreat

  • @spino1i
    @spino1i Рік тому

    It says on wikipedia that the guy that founded Church's Chicken, George W. Church Sr., died in 1956. So he came back from the grave 8 years later to play one last chess tournament in 1964? lol

    • @your-mom-irl
      @your-mom-irl Рік тому

      Wikipedia is prolly full of bullshit

    • @beaut7811
      @beaut7811 Рік тому

      His son was also named GW church and called Bill. I believe that solves this and ben’s thought early in the lecture

  • @malachickisawesome
    @malachickisawesome Рік тому

    W

  • @idocare6538
    @idocare6538 Рік тому

    How do you get your protein?

  • @hexrisk
    @hexrisk Рік тому

    Woo spent that the 26 years in the D

  • @anybodykill6666
    @anybodykill6666 Рік тому

    Awww

  • @DrugzMunny
    @DrugzMunny 7 місяців тому

    Name isn't similar enough to Ben Finegold. Should've been named Ken Finegold.

  • @justsoification
    @justsoification Рік тому

    poor bloke called Wes Burger

  • @mcchess2329
    @mcchess2329 Рік тому

    and his children's children

  • @satcheljones
    @satcheljones 10 місяців тому

    i don't think i've ever cringed harder at a sequence of moves
    Nb8, b6, a5, f5 -- bruh black was literally trying to lose, there's no other way.

  • @your-mom-irl
    @your-mom-irl Рік тому

    What, that's your dad

  • @justsomeboyprobablydressed9579

    @34:15 "This is like if I played Jeffrey Xiong today. This is what would happen." C'mon, Ben. Xiong isn't that bad.

  • @yotoober1
    @yotoober1 Рік тому

    Stockfish finally makes blunder!
    Includes Gotham in list as GM to play against Stockfish 🤣
    Stockfish channel:
    "12 Grandmasters Together Play Against Stockfish 15 | 12 Grandmasters vs Stockfish | Stockfish vs GM"

  • @Charlie-502
    @Charlie-502 Рік тому

    GET A NEW CHAIR!!!

  • @The_Invisible_Man
    @The_Invisible_Man Рік тому

    Ben likes to get paid