House of Habsburg IV - The Spanish Decline

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2023
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    In the fourth installment of our series on the Habsubrgs, we accompany the Spanish decline.
    Sources:
    J.H. Elliot- Imperial Spain 1469-1714
    Henry Kamen- Spain 1469-1714: A society of conflict
    Henry Kamen- Empire: How Spain Became a World Power, 1492-1763
    Written by Andrew Szekler
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  • @Replicaate
    @Replicaate 11 місяців тому +126

    I have to hand it to Philip IV; at least he and his court made sure we'd have plenty of stunning Velazquez paintings to appreciate.

    • @cyclocrossthesea-lionman1824
      @cyclocrossthesea-lionman1824 4 місяці тому +3

      I give tours of Madrid and I say that that and the Retiro are just about the only good thing he left Spain .

  • @Midnightsstan521
    @Midnightsstan521 11 місяців тому +51

    Charles II: Baffling Christendom by continuing to live since 1661

  • @honeycomblord9384
    @honeycomblord9384 11 місяців тому +111

    You're getting quite good at doing these sorts of videos. They're well paced, use citations of historians effectively, and go into a fair amount of detail.
    If you're considering doing another series on the history of a major power (especially France or the Byzantines), I'll definitely be looking forward to it.

    • @anonymous-hz2un
      @anonymous-hz2un 11 місяців тому +1

      Nah, forget them frog eaters, just the Byzantines.

    • @subashira
      @subashira 11 місяців тому +9

      @@anonymous-hz2un more than enough creators covering the byzantines, france would be much more informative

    • @memeboi6017
      @memeboi6017 11 місяців тому +3

      @@subashira if so than neither, he should cover something obscure like the electors of the HRE.

  • @Theturtleowl
    @Theturtleowl 9 місяців тому +11

    There is a song in Dutch about the capture of the fleet carrying the silver. It was made around the time it happened and is called 'De Zilvervloot'. It praises the actions of captain Piet Hein and of course the capture of the ships and silver.

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 Місяць тому

      Well, but very little silver and gold was captured.
      70% stayed in America (80% in the 18th century), to create a Western civilization there. That is why Spanish has the greatest global legacy in mother tongue and Christianized speakers in the world)
      Of the 1,200 Indies fleets, with the treasure and with money and trade that traveled from America-Spain and Spain-America in 250 years, the English captured 2 fleets (17th century, in port and without prior declaration of war). Netherlands captures 2 fleets (XVII century). 4 shipwrecks. Success of the Spanish fleet of 99.75%.
      The money that came to Europe gave Spain a 150-year hegemony, and we developed an empire in Asia.
      Mexico and Peru produce more gold and silver each year of the 21st century than the Spanish Empire did in 100 years.

  • @kevind7396
    @kevind7396 11 місяців тому +18

    Great video and glad to see Prof. Elliot get some recognition. His books and essays, including his classic study of Olivares, really offered a great deal of insight into the decline of imperial Spain.

  • @willfly9946
    @willfly9946 11 місяців тому +22

    Video idea: you become roman emperor after marcus aurelius or augustus or constantin or whoever. You have to reform the empire so that it survives as long as possible. No geniva conventions or anything like that, everything you deem necessary is okay

  • @chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766
    @chcucivtxzclccucifudohzfu6766 10 місяців тому +8

    In defense of the genetically ill advised marriages by Philipp II. and Philipp IV.: both didn’t intend to marry their nieces at first but rather wanted their heirs to marry their first cousins (which is significantly more healthy). But both were in the situation where said heir died and they were left without heirs while also not having a wife as they died as well. So both decided to marry their nieces themselves out of circumstance.

  • @aurenkleige
    @aurenkleige 11 місяців тому +15

    As usual, quite excellent. I think in history classes, we focus so much on Charles II of Spain's tragedy of birth that we overlook his role in the causes of the War of the Spanish Succession. Definitely a good one to revisit next year in terms of my approach to it.

  • @ExplosiveBean1
    @ExplosiveBean1 11 місяців тому +5

    So glad I subbed to this channel, honestly running out of this type of content.

  • @B1lly_
    @B1lly_ 11 місяців тому +36

    Doctor I: "There's still time for a son! Madame, you have to undress!"
    Maria Anna: "He's half cadaver."
    Doctor II: " It's ok, I got his legs!"

  • @brendenwright7957
    @brendenwright7957 11 місяців тому +6

    Another amazing video... love how well paced it is, and the good amount of detail they go into the House of Habsburgs history.
    Oh and Spectrum, if you ever do another rankings video, One that I would suggest is the Emperors of the Holy Roman Empire, of which there were 47, and if not, the rulers of the Kingdom of Georgia, which existed from 1003 to 1490, and had 30 rulers.... just some ideas....
    Can't wait for the next video!

    • @thesmm2311
      @thesmm2311 10 місяців тому

      I'll like a video ranking Sassanid leaders.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 місяців тому +13

    Ah yes. Carlos el hechizado. Poor bastard never stood a chance

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 11 місяців тому +10

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @daniellison9182
    @daniellison9182 11 місяців тому +12

    All of this kings are better than Fernado VII

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 місяців тому +8

    13:42 yep, ripe old for him
    Cant wait to see the austrian side of the family

  • @Hilter420
    @Hilter420 11 місяців тому +10

    Is there gonna be a part 5 about the Austrian line or were you just covering the spanish side?

    • @spectrum1140
      @spectrum1140  11 місяців тому +20

      We'll be continuing the series with the Austrian line.

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 11 місяців тому

      ​@@spectrum1140Awesome man! Can't wait to See it!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @tawgenal
      @tawgenal 11 місяців тому

      @@spectrum1140 Awesome!!!!

  • @theosullivan6975
    @theosullivan6975 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Would love to see a series on the history of italian states from the medieval period to napoleonic.

  • @sabithassan517
    @sabithassan517 11 місяців тому +5

    Do Sassanid emperor Tier list

  • @restitutororbis1720
    @restitutororbis1720 11 місяців тому +4

    When Holy Roman Empire emperor tier list? Please?

  • @jorikrouwenhorst7220
    @jorikrouwenhorst7220 10 місяців тому +1

    7:45
    Piet Hein: “Hippity hoppity that treasure fleet is now my property.”

  • @Jason_V_the_great
    @Jason_V_the_great 10 місяців тому +4

    Can you please rank all austrian /holy roman emperors?

  • @jarellwilliams7287
    @jarellwilliams7287 11 місяців тому +17

    Anybody find it weird that nearly all European monarchies are ruled by families who did not originate from the kingdom they rule?

    • @aaronTGP_3756
      @aaronTGP_3756 11 місяців тому +5

      We can thank the HRE for the many, many German-based monarchies.

    • @PawelSorinsky
      @PawelSorinsky 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@aaronTGP_3756That's not strange that's international politics and centuries of war.

    • @joelpasman9050
      @joelpasman9050 11 місяців тому +4

      The idea of a nation state ruled by and for people of one nation didn't develop untill the 19th century in the form of nationalism, so in that case I would say that most people wouldn't find it weird at that time.

    • @jarellwilliams7287
      @jarellwilliams7287 11 місяців тому

      @@joelpasman9050 Ok cool

    • @patrickjeffers7864
      @patrickjeffers7864 6 місяців тому

      I think only France is different (when they had kings)

  • @justsaying7565
    @justsaying7565 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the great vidoe

  • @Jason_V_the_great
    @Jason_V_the_great 9 місяців тому +2

    Can you please do a ranking of Swedish, Austrian or prussian/German monarchs?

  • @shzarmai
    @shzarmai 4 місяці тому +1

    Please make a video ranking every Safavid Shah from worst to best

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 11 місяців тому +18

    If only the Juan of Trastámara survived, keeping the trust of Castile and Aragon in the crown with proper taxing and avoiding the poisoned inheritance of the Habsburgs.
    But well, Charles I and Phillip II were outstanding. The descendents only had to just keep it tight, small, no big plans.
    Olivares had a great plan, all crowns working as One, would have worked if under the Trastámaras. Anyway, centralization would be slower, but achieved, at least the Bourbons could do it, but in a very quick and unwelcomed way.
    Diplomacy was secondary to power and war, sadly.

    • @mahesito1943
      @mahesito1943 11 місяців тому +4

      Or if Miguel d'Avis survived and united the iberian kingdoms. The Habsburgs just had too many enemies it was not going to work even if all kings were as good as Philip and Charles.

    • @GarfieldRex
      @GarfieldRex 11 місяців тому +3

      @@mahesito1943 indeed, that was the other junction point 👌 Habsburgs were too hated.

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 11 місяців тому +2

    loved the bloopers! xD

  • @cestkaiser
    @cestkaiser 11 місяців тому

    Nice video as always!
    Btw. do you know how Dovah is doing?

  • @brendenwright7957
    @brendenwright7957 11 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone know the soundtracks that Spectrum uses in these videos?... some of them I've heard several times in not just his, but other videos, yet I can't ever find out what they are called.

  • @lucyjbe
    @lucyjbe 11 місяців тому +4

    loved the end lmao

  • @hewhoshallnotbenamed5168
    @hewhoshallnotbenamed5168 11 місяців тому +2

    388 total comments but only 23 visible at the time of me writing this? The UA-cam Gestapo are working overtime!

  • @jakerupp3840
    @jakerupp3840 9 місяців тому +3

    Why did charles leave Spain to phillip of france in his will? Seems sketchy

    • @xiangonzalezbello5305
      @xiangonzalezbello5305 7 місяців тому +1

      Durante la vida de Carlos, España perdió 4 guerras contra Francia, pero los ministros españoles no cedieron territorio, además Felipe era heredero del trono francés y sobrino del rey Carlos

  • @purmanundvykass4364
    @purmanundvykass4364 9 місяців тому +2

    Philip iv had a sense of humour

  • @waziammm
    @waziammm 2 місяці тому

    My god when you look at it just as a family tree it's horrifying

  • @x0lopossum
    @x0lopossum 9 місяців тому +1

    3:10 A notorious workaholic 🤔

  • @spoxx1802
    @spoxx1802 11 місяців тому +1

    12:21 bit of a goof, watershed moment would have been the correct term (I don't want this comment to come off as snarky, I know how difficult speaking a non-native language can be)

  • @dipmaster6942
    @dipmaster6942 10 місяців тому

    Do a ranking of the Popes

  • @arnold3768
    @arnold3768 9 місяців тому

    10:45 "Battle of Hhhoqua" 😂

  • @Gloriaimperial1
    @Gloriaimperial1 Місяць тому +2

    Spanish decadence?
    Perhaps it is a decadence compared to the immense power that Spain had for 150 years in Europe, between 1500-1650 (Napoleon 15 years, Hitler's Germany 3 years, the United Kingdom only small islands in Europe: Ireland, Cyprus, Malta...) No you can lose what you've never had.
    But the 18th century is a time of economic and military recovery of the Spanish empire, which doubles its territory: great plains of the USA, western coasts of the USA and Canada, Luisiana, Florida, Uruguay, Italy, Equatorial Guinea in Africa, Islands in Oceania... We defeated the British in various wars, capturing hundreds of Royal Navy ships and we defeated Austria. We also gave the USA the Spanish dollar and independence.
    Napoleon is the problem, also for all of continental Europe and for France.
    Only the islands, such as the United Kingdom or Malta, were saved.

  • @BarrocoBreda1635
    @BarrocoBreda1635 6 місяців тому

    Spanish was the hegemonic power of Europe until the end of Thirty Years War, because in this period they lost the kingdom of Portugal, and the control of the Rosellón and the Netherlands

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 Місяць тому +1

      But at that time we beat France in Italy (1648), Catalonia (1652) and Belgium (1695). It must be remembered that Spain had mortgaged its resources in the civilization of America, which was 70% reinvestment, with an emigration until 1700, of 600,000 Spaniards to America, almost all men of fighting age, who had lost their crops due to the drought and locust plagues. Protestant countries did not have those investments and problems. All the money from their commercial empires, underdeveloped and enemies of Spain, went to London, Paris and Amsterdam until almost XX century. We could hardly trade with them in war. But they did trade among themselves. France had 2.5 the population of Spain. Spain had been at war almost since the year 1500 (more than 150 years of war).
      Furthermore, Spain fought almost alone, between 1640-1668, against France, England, Protestant Germany, the Netherlands, the Turkish Empire, revolts in Portugal, Italy and Catalonia, Sweden, Denmark, Morocco, Berber pirates, Filipino Moors, Chinese and Japanese pirates. , Mapuches of Chile and Apaches of the Great Plains.
      Those types of wars (but with far fewer problems) destroyed Napoleon's empire in 15 years, with Paris invaded and Napoleon taken prisoner. Hitler was defeated in 6 years of war, with Berlin occupied and he dead. The British only had small islands in Europe: Ireland, Cyprus and Malta... and the island itself to avoid annoying invasions.
      The Spanish empire resisted, saved the Catholic religion against half the world (today the majority in the countries of Europe where we fought for centuries) and in the 18th century we largely recovered, defeating the British countless times in America and invading Italy again, to complete our legacy, the greatest world legacy in native and Christianized speakers.

    • @thepedrothethethe6151
      @thepedrothethethe6151 16 годин тому

      ​@@Gloriaimperial1The Incas were more civilized

  • @burt9451
    @burt9451 10 місяців тому

    🤭 *Promo sm*