thats silly even a 2200g apu would smoke it 2400g i use in my rig well one of them and its fast with hk memory and ssd love it cheap and video play greatness
I have twp FM2+ CPUs, an Athlon X2 370K and an Athlon X4 860K. Not great for gaming in 2023, but for basic computing tasks like browsing and documents, they're both perfectly usable.
Built myself an A8 7670K system in 2016, now it still running as my opnsense router. Compared to what I had before, Athlon X2 270, 7670K consume around 75% of the power despite being a higher TDP processor. And compared to what Intel had in their entry-level platform, FM2+ motherboards actually came with more up to date features. A68 chipset has six sata 6 gbps ports built in compared to similarly priced H81 which only has two sata 6gbps and four 3gbps ports. Not to mention A68 also has PCIE 3.0 vs 2.0 in H81.
I'm running a a10-7860k with 8gb ram, I have a nice rx 5500xt that was a good opportunity at second hand, and the performance for gaming is pretty bad, I experience 1% lows of less than 60fps even in league of legends now, but to be honest, it is still very responsive for browsing and retro gaming, definitely gonna be upgrading soon though.
Nice video! Would be interesting in seeing a pound for pound comparison with same intel at time and how they did esp as multi core games came out eg GTA v C's go always quite single core heavy? Though this is an APU and not using that part do would be more the fx range?
Another awesome video! I recently got an AM2 motherboard and cpu just to mess around with but this video scares me 😂 mine is AM2 not AM2+ so it’s DDR2 sooooo it’s probably gonna be a potato 😂
I built a BASIC rig based on an AM2 board not too long ago. It will evidently not be up for gaming (unless as a retro gaming rig), but if you add enough ram, a cheap SSD, and install a lightweight OS (I know Linux would be ideal, but diehard Windows fans or people needing specific apps not available elsewhere may avail themselves of Tiny10). I guarantee you it will be suprisingly usable for most basic uses.
FM2 is a wonderful platform for retro gaming, especially under Windows 7. I should know, I used an X4 870K system for almost 5 years; The only reason I stopped using it was because the GPU died out and there were no proven repair shops in my town. You can even put Windows XP on FM2 if you have the right GPU and an HDD. Today, however...it's a miracle it even BOOTS some modern games. Good work but 2 pointers: 1. Mention the OS next time. Windows 10 and 11 are far more demanding than say Windows 7, and given that the Bulldozer family was released in 7s' heyday, I imagine a newer OS will likely cripple any old CPU even further 2. Try to alternate between percentages and "multiples". In many cases the i5 was 3x or more faster, and for those who (only) use UA-cam as background noise focusing on the raw numbers and/or that X is "3x faster" than Y makes the video easier to follow. Percentages are valuable too, but past a certain point (like in this video) you can just say "double" or "half" etc. Much bigger creators do so and I imagine it's part of their success
To be fair, it performs better than I expected. As you say, it may not be worth it to buy it, but if you get a really good deal (find it on the street, got it handed-down or have the parts to build it from remnants of other rigs) it might be usable
Hello guys! I wonder if the strongest FM2+ can compete with an FX-8350? I would use it with RX570, i just wonder if the newer FM2+ cpus are actually better in gaming (i only need 60 fps in R6S, but idk if this cpu is good with it)
Back then cpus were having some oc headroom. Had a 760k that gave to a friend -x4 760k @5.1Ghz NB@2.8Ghz -2x8 2400 DDR3 9-10-11-31 - RX 470 8GB Old xeons are cheap, great ultra budget alternatives if you are on a very tight budget. V2s are like 5 bucks
Same generation as the AMD Jaguar that powered PS4 and Xbone. My flatmate has a desktop with, I think the same APU, paired with a GTX 1050ti. We got the machine for free and I had a 15050ti as a spare. Given her a R5-2600+RX480 4GB system, which she has yet to try out.
Up until a month or two ago i've been using an A10-7870k APU since 2017, it was honestly a pain up until the very end, i got a ryzen 5 1600 + rx 580 now and i'm p happy with that About a year ago i had upgraded from 8gb of ram to 12gb, then months later i got a deal on an RX 580 which just had a bios problem, that made the system a bit more bearable but the bottleneck was terrible, and still stuttered a ton even if i had good fps with the gpu.
I managed to get 60 fps in gta V @1080p low by turning shadows off on an A8-6500B with a 1050 ti It also ran insurgency sandstorm at 1080p low with 60fps, but I later upgraded it to an A10-6800k in hopes to elevate the CPU bottleneck with no luck. With that being said, it's capable of light gaming but nothing crazy
Weird. I'm running an a10-7870k at 4ghz, 8gb ddr3 2400mhz, 256gb nvme ssd and an Nvidia GTX1650 Super. I'm able to play Gta5 at 4k with medium settings and get over 70 fps.
I have an A10 7800 PRO with a Radeon RX550 2GB, i tried CS2 and it runs terribly, FM2+ processors bottlenecks every video card we have, i want to change to a sixth generation core i5 or better to play some games i'd like
Best Fm2 cpu is the Athlon X4 850 but it loses out to i5 4460 because it has no AVX2 instructions. AM3+ cpus like FX 8350 can be useful but again only if you like get them real cheap with the mobo and ram, so cheap that its cheaper than old xeons + mobo+ ecc ram.
4/6 games you tested are GPU bound meaning you're creating an unfair bottleneck. Aswell as running the games at medium settings will see much greater performance increases. Also not very fair to compare a decade old cpu to one thats only 2 years old.
I know these are bad I have one kicking around was wondering what it can do might do it anyway would maybe put in case with a 500 gb ssd see if it at least makes a complaint homework and Roblox pc lol would 120 quid be over priced for such a system
It would be more interesting to test it against a 7800X3D and use its 2 RDNA2 GPU cores against the FM2 APU with no dedicated GPU in either
I can only allocate a certain amount of money to each video. A 7800X3D is well out of the question for now😅
thats silly even a 2200g apu would smoke it 2400g i use in my rig well one of them and its fast with hk memory and ssd love it cheap and video play greatness
I have twp FM2+ CPUs, an Athlon X2 370K and an Athlon X4 860K. Not great for gaming in 2023, but for basic computing tasks like browsing and documents, they're both perfectly usable.
Built myself an A8 7670K system in 2016, now it still running as my opnsense router. Compared to what I had before, Athlon X2 270, 7670K consume around 75% of the power despite being a higher TDP processor. And compared to what Intel had in their entry-level platform, FM2+ motherboards actually came with more up to date features. A68 chipset has six sata 6 gbps ports built in compared to similarly priced H81 which only has two sata 6gbps and four 3gbps ports. Not to mention A68 also has PCIE 3.0 vs 2.0 in H81.
I'm running a a10-7860k with 8gb ram, I have a nice rx 5500xt that was a good opportunity at second hand, and the performance for gaming is pretty bad, I experience 1% lows of less than 60fps even in league of legends now, but to be honest, it is still very responsive for browsing and retro gaming, definitely gonna be upgrading soon though.
Nice video! Would be interesting in seeing a pound for pound comparison with same intel at time and how they did esp as multi core games came out eg GTA v C's go always quite single core heavy? Though this is an APU and not using that part do would be more the fx range?
Another awesome video! I recently got an AM2 motherboard and cpu just to mess around with but this video scares me 😂 mine is AM2 not AM2+ so it’s DDR2 sooooo it’s probably gonna be a potato 😂
I built a BASIC rig based on an AM2 board not too long ago. It will evidently not be up for gaming (unless as a retro gaming rig), but if you add enough ram, a cheap SSD, and install a lightweight OS (I know Linux would be ideal, but diehard Windows fans or people needing specific apps not available elsewhere may avail themselves of Tiny10). I guarantee you it will be suprisingly usable for most basic uses.
That is going to be an absolute spud😅 But it will be interesting to see what it can actually do🙌
Great video. If you look up the A series CPUs it seems like the cache sizes is a huge part of the issue.
Cache is vital in gaming, thats partly why X3D chips do so well. It’s worth noting doing for potential future testing. Thanks mate🙌
Loved my Trinity.
FM2 is a wonderful platform for retro gaming, especially under Windows 7. I should know, I used an X4 870K system for almost 5 years; The only reason I stopped using it was because the GPU died out and there were no proven repair shops in my town. You can even put Windows XP on FM2 if you have the right GPU and an HDD. Today, however...it's a miracle it even BOOTS some modern games.
Good work but 2 pointers: 1. Mention the OS next time. Windows 10 and 11 are far more demanding than say Windows 7, and given that the Bulldozer family was released in 7s' heyday, I imagine a newer OS will likely cripple any old CPU even further
2. Try to alternate between percentages and "multiples". In many cases the i5 was 3x or more faster, and for those who (only) use UA-cam as background noise focusing on the raw numbers and/or that X is "3x faster" than Y makes the video easier to follow. Percentages are valuable too, but past a certain point (like in this video) you can just say "double" or "half" etc. Much bigger creators do so and I imagine it's part of their success
To be fair, it performs better than I expected. As you say, it may not be worth it to buy it, but if you get a really good deal (find it on the street, got it handed-down or have the parts to build it from remnants of other rigs) it might be usable
It would be useable if you play Xbox 360 era games I think. Especially if you pair it with something like an RX 470
Hello guys! I wonder if the strongest FM2+ can compete with an FX-8350? I would use it with RX570, i just wonder if the newer FM2+ cpus are actually better in gaming (i only need 60 fps in R6S, but idk if this cpu is good with it)
Back then cpus were having some oc headroom. Had a 760k that gave to a friend
-x4 760k @5.1Ghz NB@2.8Ghz
-2x8 2400 DDR3 9-10-11-31
- RX 470 8GB
Old xeons are cheap, great ultra budget alternatives if you are on a very tight budget. V2s are like 5 bucks
Same generation as the AMD Jaguar that powered PS4 and Xbone.
My flatmate has a desktop with, I think the same APU, paired with a GTX 1050ti.
We got the machine for free and I had a 15050ti as a spare.
Given her a R5-2600+RX480 4GB system, which she has yet to try out.
That GTX 1050ti will work a lot better with say a Xeon E3-1240v2 lga 1155 which are pretty cheap.
Up until a month or two ago i've been using an A10-7870k APU since 2017, it was honestly a pain up until the very end, i got a ryzen 5 1600 + rx 580 now and i'm p happy with that
About a year ago i had upgraded from 8gb of ram to 12gb, then months later i got a deal on an RX 580 which just had a bios problem, that made the system a bit more bearable but the bottleneck was terrible, and still stuttered a ton even if i had good fps with the gpu.
Although, if you don't do gaming, or blender/video renders, it holds up.
A Ryzen 5 1600 and an RX 580 is a great pairing mate. Congratulations on the upgrade🙌
I actually still game on my a10-7800 series and an rx 580, it runs modern games fairly good on low settings
Bottleneck percentage?
I managed to get 60 fps in gta V @1080p low by turning shadows off on an A8-6500B with a 1050 ti
It also ran insurgency sandstorm at 1080p low with 60fps, but I later upgraded it to an A10-6800k in hopes to elevate the CPU bottleneck with no luck.
With that being said, it's capable of light gaming but nothing crazy
Nah, back in 2015 I went for an used H67 board, i3-2120 and a GTX 670. These cacheless FX-derived chips were just so meh.
Back then I'm using this built around 2015, my build was a8 7600 8gb ram and r7 260x back then the cpu could run gta 5 medium settings 720 p 45fps 🫠
Weird. I'm running an a10-7870k at 4ghz, 8gb ddr3 2400mhz, 256gb nvme ssd and an Nvidia GTX1650 Super. I'm able to play Gta5 at 4k with medium settings and get over 70 fps.
Bottleneck percentage? I have a pro a8 8650b ansi want to add a gpu, but everybody says it will bottleneck with every gpu?!!
I have an A10 7800 PRO with a Radeon RX550 2GB, i tried CS2 and it runs terribly, FM2+ processors bottlenecks every video card we have, i want to change to a sixth generation core i5 or better to play some games i'd like
Maybe ryzen 3?in my country r3 4100 its 60 dollar
@@ХоменкоГеоргий its a good idea, unfortunately in Brazil, hardware is overtaxed and costs almost 90 dollars brand new
@@ХоменкоГеоргий it's not that expensive, but i don't want to pay too high for an entry level device
Best Fm2 cpu is the Athlon X4 850 but it loses out to i5 4460 because it has no AVX2 instructions.
AM3+ cpus like FX 8350 can be useful but again only if you like get them real cheap with the mobo and ram, so cheap that its cheaper than old xeons + mobo+ ecc ram.
4/6 games you tested are GPU bound meaning you're creating an unfair bottleneck.
Aswell as running the games at medium settings will see much greater performance increases.
Also not very fair to compare a decade old cpu to one thats only 2 years old.
I had an Athlon x4 860k for about 4 years, it was ok but in 2020 it was a nightmare
Yes you'll get SSE4.2 fixes and you're good to go. I play RDR2.
God these CPUs were horrible.
The boxes looked sick though
whats the best cheap cpu you should pair with a gtx 1080 ti?
Probably a 6th or 7th gen i7. Maybe look at something like the Ryzen 5 2600 as well. They will hold it back in some games. But it won't be too major.
@@ProYamYamPC ok cheers mate
Either a Core i5 10400F for $123 US or a Ryzen 5 5600 for $128 US. Or something used.
@@rangersmith4652 Yeah, that will get the best from it but the money is increasing too.
@@wayland7150 It all comes down to how much you want to spend and whether you have an existing motherboard.
I know these are bad I have one kicking around was wondering what it can do might do it anyway would maybe put in case with a 500 gb ssd see if it at least makes a complaint homework and Roblox pc lol would 120 quid be over priced for such a system
Why bro makes his voice like that ☠️
However the video and tests by itself are nice, but please, don’t try to make your voice sound as low as possible, it’s really hard to listen
This CPU is a waste of a GPU!
Deedee are free
4:49 look at CPU xD i5 12400F haha
Ok? I did make a note all gameplay capture was from the 12400F PC
Savage 😂😂😂
Had to he done😂 Anyways mate, I massively appreciate you sending these goodies out. Still need to get around to benchmarking that GTX 760👀