POWDER IS SO FUNNY. I used it against the Gen6 Elite Four Fire Lady and I would just use Powder every round since she used Fire attacks on my highly flammable Vivillon every single round, haha. Shit was so goofy
Fun fact! Powder is sometimes used in Pure Hackmons with Bug/Steel types with Wonder Guard! It renders literally every way to hit it obsolete when Fire Type Moves don’t work on it, great times
I mentioned this elsewhere but the Pledge moves would become viable if they worked like Tera Blasts and used the higher of SPATK or ATK. Right now only the SPATK starters can make great use of it. The effects individually are actually pretty strong.
Ik about powder because someone made a team for gen6 pure hackmons that had a scizor with powder. “The vantablack hourglass” was the name of the team I think
The “playground rumor” that we had for Gen 5 was that there was some sort of super effect that activated when you used all 3 Pledge moves at once in a Triple battle
@@portwise23 (resending my message because it's not loading that it sent on my end, so if there's two replies that say basically the same thing, that's why) The weird thing is, at least based on what I heard, the Pledge moves were intended as a nod to Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash in Brawl (which is why they only could be learned by starters). So you would *think* they'd want to do a direct Triple Finish thing.
@@Rot8erConeX It would've been cool if there was a triple finish type of effect, where it would simply become a typeless 200 base power multi-target move, however that might've been a bit much for game balance, and as-is, in gens 5 and 6, the slowest pledge move is separate from the other two
My favorite move is Soak. It sets up so many fuck you strategies including turning synchronoise into a stupidly good move. It also makes EVERYTHING weak to freeze dry that wasnt already weak to it.
I'm a big fan of copycat , like being able to make a mon use any move is pretty cool, to bad it doesn't have any real use (except copycat shell smash flamigo hyperoffense). Powder sounds so cool, why have i never heard of it before wth.
Im surprised Z-copy cat was so less whelming compared to Z-mirror move. I miss Z-Moves, ngl. But if Megas are coming back, hopefully we'll get a rebalanced new Z move era one day.
One thing to note with the pledges is that the second one would go immediately after the first one, so you can get a quicker attack off. I remember this being comparatively relevant on a gen 8 sun team with Chlorophyll Venusaur and Solar Power Charizard.
about the mind reader thing in gen 4, moves affected by it going through protect wasn't exclusive to it, it happened to any move that normally has regular accuracy checks, that become boosted to bypass said checks, such as thunder in rain, blizzard in hail, or, in general, no guard, the only exception being OHKO moves, since their accuracy checks work very differently. this was only in diamond and pearl and was fixed in platinum, but picture this: machamp's dynamic punch having a 50% chance to hit through protect. LOL
Weird moves are fun to learn about, but often not fun to use. Like sure, Lock On sounds great, but you could have just attacked twice with a 100% accurate move and gotten better results, especially since your lock on is nullified if they switch out. It is funny to use it with OHKO moves against AI though. If Powder did considerably more damage or had another effect (like burning or paralyzing the opponent), I could see it getting used a lot. But 25% damage is not quite enough. I'd love to see a 2nd video!
Yeahhh, it's one of those things where maybe if abilities didn't exist it'd be useful... but flash fire and redirection exists, so nah. Though it's certainly a much funnier strategy
I hope you put Gravity in the next/another video. No one has heard of it, but its effects are so unique and varied you can build a whole team around it.
Hey EWGF, you should totally do a presentation about Kommo-o. It can technically run Throat Spray Clangorous Soul for super powerful Boombursts, Sub Salac Belly Drum for a super strong setup, Dragon Dance to be a threat that doesn’t nerf its own health, and Iron Defense Body press to, albeit, a lesser extent
OK, am I the only person who knows about Powder? Every UA-camr brings it up as one of the most forgotten moves, but I don’t forget about it. Idk maybe I’m just biased cuz Vivillon is my fav bug.
I used Powder in a Pokémon Fan game myself. Pokémon Taiseiyo or something long time ago. I remember being on the backfoot in a fight and only having my Bug /Flying type of the region left. However due to some glitch and the most flippin' anime type stuff the when I used Powder predicting a Fire type move from my opponent's Fire type starter it blew up in his face shown a glitch message I could only press ok, blew up in his face again, and again, and again in 1 turn making it a straight OHKO from 1 Powder. Note this Bug /Flying mon also had an Ability that made it immune to Rock type moves, so if you ran the literaly broken Powder move, it would technically have 2 immunities as the risk of using a Fire type move is just too high.
Using powder reminds me of a meme I saw somewere about a guy riding his bike with a gas tank straped on his back an a sign that read "we can both lose". F@cking gold man
I'd love to see something Powder-like that targets other types. Maybe some sort of wire exposing move that causes the opponent to blow up if they use an Electric move?
Imagine a Pokemon with a 4x weakness to Fire, but having an ability that spreads powder onto the opponent upon being damaged, maybe a Grass/Steel type to make its primary weakness really risky to use against it
Honestly they should bring powder back. Incredibly well designed and balanced, imagine how helpful it would have been during chi yu era SV OU on a Pokémon like lokix
i tried to make a mono bug team and i was so sad when i saw that powder was removed cuz it genuinely would've been a huge help especially to enable scizor
I love Powder. If it had wider distribution and maybe also had an effect where opponent getting hit by your teammate's fire move on the same turn would also set the powder off, it'd see use.
I remember seeing Powder for the first time on the freaking Pixelmon Minecraft Mod. It could actually be so nice if it had wider distribution. Imagine if Shedinja could negate one of its weaknesses like that
Can I just say this attitude towards Powder is my favourite way to think about pokémon moves in general. I love moves that are unique and interesting, and if they're so impractical as to be totally competitively unviable, that doesn't ruin it for me. If anything it just makes it more fun to try to use it, despite it being literally a terrible idea. It's the only charm of some moves like metronome, which is never (never?) a good move to use competitively but is a really fun concept and can be really satisfying when dumb stuff happens when you use it. I love using it in playthroughs just for fun. I'm always in favour of pokémon making new funky moves like this, I don't care if they work or not it's just fun :)
When DLC 2 dropped I actually used a Water Pledge Empoleon and Grass Pledge Rillaboom set to... shocking success. Quartering your entire enemy's speed is great, especially if you're able to get a knock out with the original attack
powder is a funny inclusion that i only know about because I've been nuzlocking pokemon run and bun an emerald hack with gen 8 mechanics where vivillon has powder and its unironically one of the best things about the mon
Okay, I love Powder and therefore I have two buffs for it: 1- Increase it's damage from a set 25% to 120 Special Bug damage. 2- Make it occur whenever a Pokémon on the field uses a Fire type move, resulting a Flinch on the Powdered 'mon if it moves after the Fire type attack. If the Powdered 'mon is the one that used the Fire type move, it works as normal, cancelling the attack.
POWDER MENTION. In Pokemon Run and Bun (A super hard romhack), Vivillion gets powder and it counters so many torkoals by just spamming it, super cool move
I had some success with Powder in STABmons. Defensive Scizor in that format before dexit was one of my favorite sets. Defend order, heal order, powder, and either bug bite or bullet punch
You'd have to specify more what makes a move an "objectively better version". Like, are you comparing Thunder Shock with Thunderbolt or Slam with Body Slam?
@@GeorgeDCowley Yeah see this is what I meant. Are you just comparing similar moves based on their power, or are you considering accuracy or secondary effects too? If it's the first you're going to waste time with obvious examples like Ember being worse than Flamethrower or Jump Kick and High Jump Kick. If it's the second you can show more curious stuff, like Lunge hitting as hard as X-Scissor but with an attack drop
I actually ran powder vivillion in battle tower and casual matches in X and Y. Easy to abuse NPCs with and even caught players off guard most of the time. Pretty easy to follow up with KO on most fire types after the 25% life loss
Snatch is another funny move. You literally rob your opponents support moves (think tailwind etc). Incineroar would use it occasionally in gen 7 before it got dexited
Note to self: Great men are built. You have to look stupid. You're not going to look great all the time. You have to work harder than the average person. You don't know everything. You have to open yourself to the world. Life is lived when you're constantly evolving.
I think Pledge Moves should be added to every UB,Legendary or Mythical who are either Fire,Water, or Grass types(Ogrepon gets all three). And it should work on the what ever the highest offensive stat is.
2:14 make it so the masterpiece is no guard and the cheap copy is mind reader xD (Context: no guard: all attacks never miss, mind reader: next attack on target will not miss)
Coalossal has a signitre move called tar shot witch is pretty weird. Lowers speed and doubles damage from fire moves. I don't think I've ever seen anybody except me use it tho.
If you do a follow up, I always thought tar shot was neat, or even perish song. Even though myself and a friend thought we knew how it worked, we kept failing to make a good set up for it haha Other move suggestions would be wake up slap and Smelling salts or even sparkling aria... moves that cure the possible enemy's status... why would we want to do that?
Wake-up Slap and Smelling Salts benefit from more power at the expense of removing the status, and Sparkling Aria can remove burns from Guts users. I guess they can also be an alternate healing in doubles if you use them on a statused ally that'd receive little damage from those attacks
I'd love to hear you talk about how broken the Partner Eevee/Pikachu moves are from LGPE. Moves like Zippy Zap, Glitzy Glow, Baddy Bad, and Sappy Seed would be competely broken if they were in a mainline game
Yo if powder was on a good mon in VGC it would go kinda crazy, like it would totally null Chi Yu because it couldn't use fire type moves out of fear of getting powdered
If you ever feel useless remember that shedinja gets final gambit!
Final Gambit Shedninja to break sashes is meta bro trust me
min speed shedinja final gambit followed by scarf blissy copycat
@@cat8506Congradulations, you've sacrificed two pokemon to defeat one!
That is extremely funny
Attract cryogonal:
POWDER IS SO FUNNY. I used it against the Gen6 Elite Four Fire Lady and I would just use Powder every round since she used Fire attacks on my highly flammable Vivillon every single round, haha. Shit was so goofy
why have specified powders (sleep powder, poison powder and so on) when you can have literally-just-some-powder!
just throwing a handful of unspecified powder at someone is kinda funny lmfao
Go go gadget Asbestos
@@ElectricWindGirlFriendjust scoop some dust off of the ground and throw it into their face
(gun)powder
Powder isn't a very good move, but it is fucking hilarious.
Posting this and then taking my last final of the year in 30 minutes lol.
Also Lock On is still in the game while Mind Reader is not.
Good luck!! ❤
good luck o7
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
Good luck!!
How'd it go?
Fun fact! Powder is sometimes used in Pure Hackmons with Bug/Steel types with Wonder Guard! It renders literally every way to hit it obsolete when Fire Type Moves don’t work on it, great times
wait yeah the only way to beat that is outspeeding or replacing the ability
@@lucasgreer1736 powder is a priority move and there arent any fire priority moves so... literally just replacing the ability (or using mold breaker)
@@disasterarea9341
Ability Shield: *[Evil Laughter]*
(laughs in Mold Breaker)
Wow, these are some unorthodox moves in Pokemon
they sure are
Fire types when i throw some powder at their face🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
I mentioned this elsewhere but the Pledge moves would become viable if they worked like Tera Blasts and used the higher of SPATK or ATK. Right now only the SPATK starters can make great use of it. The effects individually are actually pretty strong.
Yep. I kinda feel like they're purposely sitting on it though, after seeing what happened with the Tapu and terrains
Rillaboom + Incineroar lead immediately sets the field on fire turn 1
Also: mind reader Articuno with sheer cold
i did give it a mention thankfully
Wait ‘till you hear about poliwrath with mind reader and fissure
@@byakudora politoed erasure
And Generation II Smeargle can have a lot of fun with this, too!
*Spore*
*Lock-On*
*Guillotine* / *Horn Drill*
*Fissure* / *Agility*
Ik about powder because someone made a team for gen6 pure hackmons that had a scizor with powder. “The vantablack hourglass” was the name of the team I think
I’ll check that out!
I'm playing a gen 6 romhack wich has the first gym leader use it. It made it pretty hard for me
@@manelneedsaname1773what's the name of the hack?
The “playground rumor” that we had for Gen 5 was that there was some sort of super effect that activated when you used all 3 Pledge moves at once in a Triple battle
there is not?
@@sebastianchavez1225 no :( Whichever 2 go first get the special effect, and the third is just an 80 base power generic move of it's type
@@portwise23 (resending my message because it's not loading that it sent on my end, so if there's two replies that say basically the same thing, that's why)
The weird thing is, at least based on what I heard, the Pledge moves were intended as a nod to Pokemon Trainer's Final Smash in Brawl (which is why they only could be learned by starters). So you would *think* they'd want to do a direct Triple Finish thing.
@@Rot8erConeX It would've been cool if there was a triple finish type of effect, where it would simply become a typeless 200 base power multi-target move, however that might've been a bit much for game balance, and as-is, in gens 5 and 6, the slowest pledge move is separate from the other two
Why did this unlock a core memory for me 😂😂
My favorite move is Soak. It sets up so many fuck you strategies including turning synchronoise into a stupidly good move. It also makes EVERYTHING weak to freeze dry that wasnt already weak to it.
I'm a big fan of copycat , like being able to make a mon use any move is pretty cool, to bad it doesn't have any real use (except copycat shell smash flamigo hyperoffense).
Powder sounds so cool, why have i never heard of it before wth.
In SwSh VGC it had some use on Liepard of all things, prankster+copycat=immediately undoing the trick room your opponent set last turn.
@@Kazzzack ok that sounds amazing
Gen 5 Riolu Prankster Copycat Roar would like to know your location
Im surprised Z-copy cat was so less whelming compared to Z-mirror move.
I miss Z-Moves, ngl. But if Megas are coming back, hopefully we'll get a rebalanced new Z move era one day.
Iirc only vivillon gets powder
love how i read the title before clicking on the video, and the only move i could think of was powder. What an underappreciated move lol
Who up playing with their rototiller
One thing to note with the pledges is that the second one would go immediately after the first one, so you can get a quicker attack off. I remember this being comparatively relevant on a gen 8 sun team with Chlorophyll Venusaur and Solar Power Charizard.
god I wish pledges had more distribution but the precedence is just starter mons
We at least need the moves to take advantage of the rainbow effect. I guess Rock Slide Blaziken and dark pulse greninja are an option
Dont forget that silvally can learn only grass pledge because of a programming error LMAO, classic GF
And Silvally.
about the mind reader thing in gen 4, moves affected by it going through protect wasn't exclusive to it, it happened to any move that normally has regular accuracy checks, that become boosted to bypass said checks, such as thunder in rain, blizzard in hail, or, in general, no guard, the only exception being OHKO moves, since their accuracy checks work very differently. this was only in diamond and pearl and was fixed in platinum, but picture this: machamp's dynamic punch having a 50% chance to hit through protect. LOL
that is my new favorite pokemon glitch
They should honestly implement this feature as a ability, and call it "Unseen Fist" or somethin
The weak will say: "But why use Powder when you can just use Protect???"
The strong will reply: "haha powder go boom boom"
Magnetic Flux being a spread Cosmic Power but only for Plus/Minus users sounds unorthodox enough for a next video
Powder is so cool it made electricwindgf chuckle mid delivery, truly the the move of all time
Weird moves are fun to learn about, but often not fun to use. Like sure, Lock On sounds great, but you could have just attacked twice with a 100% accurate move and gotten better results, especially since your lock on is nullified if they switch out. It is funny to use it with OHKO moves against AI though.
If Powder did considerably more damage or had another effect (like burning or paralyzing the opponent), I could see it getting used a lot. But 25% damage is not quite enough.
I'd love to see a 2nd video!
Yeahhh, it's one of those things where maybe if abilities didn't exist it'd be useful... but flash fire and redirection exists, so nah. Though it's certainly a much funnier strategy
I absolutely loved Powder. It's such a cool concept and you feel like a galaxy-brained mega genius if it works.
I saw the title and was so excited cause i knew someone would finally talk about powder
I hope you put Gravity in the next/another video. No one has heard of it, but its effects are so unique and varied you can build a whole team around it.
Ahh yes, Lando-I's terrain
Pokeaimmd is one of the only people crazy enough to use powder competitively.
Powder would probably see more experimentation if more mons than just vivillion got it, imagine if Amoongus and Jumpluff got it
Give scizor the move and also priority on it because why not
Whimsicott with Prankster Powder sounds chaotic
@@edgargaebolg9307 Powder already has +1 priority, so its not completely necessary
@@oakin6441 I might be stupid
Hey EWGF, you should totally do a presentation about Kommo-o. It can technically run Throat Spray Clangorous Soul for super powerful Boombursts, Sub Salac Belly Drum for a super strong setup, Dragon Dance to be a threat that doesn’t nerf its own health, and Iron Defense Body press to, albeit, a lesser extent
OK, am I the only person who knows about Powder? Every UA-camr brings it up as one of the most forgotten moves, but I don’t forget about it. Idk maybe I’m just biased cuz Vivillon is my fav bug.
I came 8th in a locals with powder Vivillon. Blaziken and Volcarona we're common at the time, so it helped net me a few wins.
I want to live in a reality where funny fire fish got hard countered by some bugs with gunpowder
I used Powder in a Pokémon Fan game myself. Pokémon Taiseiyo or something long time ago.
I remember being on the backfoot in a fight and only having my Bug /Flying type of the region left.
However due to some glitch and the most flippin' anime type stuff the when I used Powder predicting a Fire type move from my opponent's Fire type starter it blew up in his face shown a glitch message I could only press ok, blew up in his face again, and again, and again in 1 turn making it a straight OHKO from 1 Powder.
Note this Bug /Flying mon also had an Ability that made it immune to Rock type moves, so if you ran the literaly broken Powder move, it would technically have 2 immunities as the risk of using a Fire type move is just too high.
Using powder reminds me of a meme I saw somewere about a guy riding his bike with a gas tank straped on his back an a sign that read "we can both lose". F@cking gold man
Final gamba is funny
i don’t even play VGC but find myself watching your presentations so much 💀 that being said keep it up tho
Powder would've been phenomenal if it took 50% of the user's HP. It would've been phenomenal counter play from Bug types.
It would be funny if they made a powder for every type
I’m so happy about your opinion about powder
2:43 I agree I love powder so much and I wish it was good enough to make pokemon like vivillion a threat
Of course I wanna see a video. I always want you to make more videos.
Vivillon: _Go ahead, shoot._
I had no idea the pledges had secondary effects! That's so cool!
obligatory reborn plug (the pledge moves can summon terrains)
I'd love to see something Powder-like that targets other types. Maybe some sort of wire exposing move that causes the opponent to blow up if they use an Electric move?
Imagine a Pokemon with a 4x weakness to Fire, but having an ability that spreads powder onto the opponent upon being damaged, maybe a Grass/Steel type to make its primary weakness really risky to use against it
Honestly they should bring powder back. Incredibly well designed and balanced, imagine how helpful it would have been during chi yu era SV OU on a Pokémon like lokix
i tried to make a mono bug team and i was so sad when i saw that powder was removed cuz it genuinely would've been a huge help especially to enable scizor
Powder is an amazing move for early gym leaders to have. It shows up in blaze black 2 redux and it's the best fucking thing to get knee capped by.
I love Powder. If it had wider distribution and maybe also had an effect where opponent getting hit by your teammate's fire move on the same turn would also set the powder off, it'd see use.
powder is probably the funniest way to counter specs torkoal eruption
I remember seeing Powder for the first time on the freaking Pixelmon Minecraft Mod. It could actually be so nice if it had wider distribution. Imagine if Shedinja could negate one of its weaknesses like that
Can I just say this attitude towards Powder is my favourite way to think about pokémon moves in general.
I love moves that are unique and interesting, and if they're so impractical as to be totally competitively unviable, that doesn't ruin it for me. If anything it just makes it more fun to try to use it, despite it being literally a terrible idea.
It's the only charm of some moves like metronome, which is never (never?) a good move to use competitively but is a really fun concept and can be really satisfying when dumb stuff happens when you use it. I love using it in playthroughs just for fun.
I'm always in favour of pokémon making new funky moves like this, I don't care if they work or not it's just fun :)
During the fire meta or Gen 6, I ran a powder Vivallon and absolutely shut down blaziken Charizard Y sets by stopping them from acting. It was wild
"I predict you will use Stealth Rock" omg Articuno is so mystical
Powder is actually used in gen 7 1v1 occasionally as a charizard mega X counter, ribombee used powder and charizard just cant beat it
I thought the same, it was my only actual counter to the zard mindgame
When DLC 2 dropped I actually used a Water Pledge Empoleon and Grass Pledge Rillaboom set to... shocking success. Quartering your entire enemy's speed is great, especially if you're able to get a knock out with the original attack
Dang I might've been the low ELO warrior who knocked you out lmao
powder is a funny inclusion that i only know about because I've been nuzlocking pokemon run and bun an emerald hack with gen 8 mechanics where vivillon has powder and its unironically one of the best things about the mon
Okay, I love Powder and therefore I have two buffs for it:
1- Increase it's damage from a set 25% to 120 Special Bug damage.
2- Make it occur whenever a Pokémon on the field uses a Fire type move, resulting a Flinch on the Powdered 'mon if it moves after the Fire type attack. If the Powdered 'mon is the one that used the Fire type move, it works as normal, cancelling the attack.
omg the pledges totally surprised me the first time i saw them too
These videos are perfect for my adhd
Wtf oomfie has a UA-cam channel
YOOOO hi justinbyleth!
I kept falling prey to Annihilape Final Gambit recently so the technique is still definitely alive and well.
powder should come back as a move where you just dump gasoline out of a jerry can onto the enemy
POWDER MENTION. In Pokemon Run and Bun (A super hard romhack), Vivillion gets powder and it counters so many torkoals by just spamming it, super cool move
powder sounds awesome. I hope that move gets buffed or becomes meta-relevant some day
Snatch was a fun one, if you don’t already have it in your list for part two 👀
damn bro if used correctly that powder move could just straight up remove a fire weakness lmao
I had some success with Powder in STABmons. Defensive Scizor in that format before dexit was one of my favorite sets. Defend order, heal order, powder, and either bug bite or bullet punch
Is a presentation about "moves where there's an objectively better version" something you've done yet? Sounds like a fun video idea
You'd have to specify more what makes a move an "objectively better version".
Like, are you comparing Thunder Shock with Thunderbolt or Slam with Body Slam?
@@edgargaebolg9307 There's also Jump Kick and High Jump Kick.
@@GeorgeDCowley Yeah see this is what I meant. Are you just comparing similar moves based on their power, or are you considering accuracy or secondary effects too? If it's the first you're going to waste time with obvious examples like Ember being worse than Flamethrower or Jump Kick and High Jump Kick. If it's the second you can show more curious stuff, like Lunge hitting as hard as X-Scissor but with an attack drop
@@edgargaebolg9307 There's also PP to consider.
I did my daily and also HOLY SHIT POWDER IS SUCH A COOL MOVE
I actually ran powder vivillion in battle tower and casual matches in X and Y. Easy to abuse NPCs with and even caught players off guard most of the time. Pretty easy to follow up with KO on most fire types after the 25% life loss
I was not prepared for "Powder."
Finally some justice and recognition for Powder
sure i'd love to see a follow up
Snatch is another funny move. You literally rob your opponents support moves (think tailwind etc). Incineroar would use it occasionally in gen 7 before it got dexited
Powder would be sick as a secondary effect on a good move I think
Would love Powder for more types, it might be really annoying it sounds so cool to use
Anyone remember VGC 2014 Ion Deluge to counter Mega Kangaskhan?
they wanted to name powder to "gunpowder" but unfortunately it wasn't meant to be
Magic/Wonder room seem pretty unorthodox (I did not know they even existed until last week)
Powder is the exclusive move of gen6 pure hackmons mega scizor, who punishes v-creates like no other fire weak mon does
I was today years old when i learned powder existed
I've actually encountered someone in gen 9 Ranked that was using the pledge moves
I loved snatch. Sad to see it go, such a great concept.
Please make a follow up.
Note to self:
Great men are built.
You have to look stupid. You're not going to look great all the time.
You have to work harder than the average person.
You don't know everything. You have to open yourself to the world.
Life is lived when you're constantly evolving.
There was actually a guy who used Powder In a tournament.
I think Pledge Moves should be added to every UB,Legendary or Mythical who are either Fire,Water, or Grass types(Ogrepon gets all three). And it should work on the what ever the highest offensive stat is.
Yo, glad I'm not the only one that finds Powder super cool, and its stupid they took it out.
2:14 make it so the masterpiece is no guard and the cheap copy is mind reader xD
(Context: no guard: all attacks never miss, mind reader: next attack on target will not miss)
I think powder actually has had usage in vgc in the past, against stuff like mega charizard Y
I wish powder worked on more types like maybe electric as well, just the ultimate parry
I miss Powder being in the game. Love that move
Bruh powder shouldve caused flinching
Coalossal has a signitre move called tar shot witch is pretty weird. Lowers speed and doubles damage from fire moves. I don't think I've ever seen anybody except me use it tho.
mega scizor used to use powder in balanced and pure hackmons
probably no the usage you where looking for but hey its funny
If you do a follow up, I always thought tar shot was neat, or even perish song. Even though myself and a friend thought we knew how it worked, we kept failing to make a good set up for it haha
Other move suggestions would be wake up slap and
Smelling salts or even sparkling aria... moves that cure the possible enemy's status... why would we want to do that?
Wake-up Slap and Smelling Salts benefit from more power at the expense of removing the status, and Sparkling Aria can remove burns from Guts users.
I guess they can also be an alternate healing in doubles if you use them on a statused ally that'd receive little damage from those attacks
I remember stacking up on fire weak mons in gen 7 vgc and powdered zard-Ys and gave myself free turns
I'd love to hear you talk about how broken the Partner Eevee/Pikachu moves are from LGPE. Moves like Zippy Zap, Glitzy Glow, Baddy Bad, and Sappy Seed would be competely broken if they were in a mainline game
Yo if powder was on a good mon in VGC it would go kinda crazy, like it would totally null Chi Yu because it couldn't use fire type moves out of fear of getting powdered