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The irony of Lisa being the one to do the song advertising and glorifying Disney a mega media congrolomorate when she is the most leftie anti-establishment character in the show. Shows you how much respect there is for the characters.
@BK Beatty See but that has potential to be a joke and that's clearly not what they're going for. Like Homer weakly trying to have morals and how he won't sell out to an evil corporation until the Mouse holds up a case of beer, then he breaks out into a song and dance routine while getting drunk off his ass.
To be fair, leftists in modern day America are huge supporters of media propaganda, so its not very far off.. Sure 15-20 years ago it would be way off but now? No. Roles have reversed and honestly now, conservatives are the ones fighting for free speech and the eradication of censorship and media monopolies
Maybe what’s more concerning is that our society has shifted in a way that makes the Lisa of old seem like a relic of a lost time. She lived in a world where she would rage against the blatantly conservative interest serving corporations and media. Now we are in a world where these corporations, and the media, pander to people like Lisa for profit, while actually doing the bidding of the “right” in many respects in reality, and many young liberals like Lisa go along for the ride. The actual “anti-establishment” left tends to be a lot further to the left than Lisa usually is, while the more common anti-establishment group, or the ones who view themselves that way, is now the right… which is also very concerning.
They've always sold out beyond the bashing of social norms was the underline marketing appeal like merchandising was massive as early as the first couple of seasons celebrities were pervasive. Only difference is now there's a platform to complain about how the series is selling out
@@demonking-zm3rs I think you’re arguing in bad faith there. Having merchandise isn’t selling out. Simpson hit the same pitfall a lot of satire does where it eventually becomes what it made fun of
@@-Lola. I'm arguing that the way merchandise was so prevalent was them selling out. It wasn't just the usual shirts and toy's there franchise was for most of the 80" s and 90's plastered on everything and its image basically tied to every product under the sun. Celebrity guests star's were still (while toned down) given reverence and they still collaborated with the purpose of expanding the IP The Bart Man Butterfinger. Like show's do this but not on the same scale that The Simpson's did as for Satire no a show develops as society changes the early seasons people find so amazing stop being satirical very early on replaced with either traditional or observational humor. So the idea that its now selling out is kind of a joke it was a good show but it was still even then selling you a brand its like the Transformers they were made to sell toy's you can enjoy them and create meaning from it but it's a product first and a movie/show second
@@demonking-zm3rs it’s still a good show. This last season has had some solid episodes and had me laughing more than I laughed with the Simpsons in a long time.
I love how a majority of the older Disney characters look utterly miserable in the clips you showed. Goofy was the happiest looking and even he's been driven to drinking.
Disney making Plusiversary: “This is great, look at all the franchises we own!” Everyone watching Plusiversary: “Dear God, look at all the franchises they own”
Lisa is the last character who would shill Disney+ so shamelessly. It goes against every fibre of her being as an anti-corporate, anti-materialist, anti-sellout, left-wing activist. Whoever wrote the script completely misunderstood her character.
Lisa is not that, at least not when the show was good, is even sadder, Lisa was the voice of reason, not a neowoke hipster milenial, she was a good kid, who was smart enought to point the bullshit and make the right calls. Then they got lazy and put her as this neowoke activist for no reason, who praises apple???? it was so bad. And now is not even that neowoke, is a fuckinf brand, not even pretending to be a fellow kid, is just a merch at the pisshole that is disney, and its infinity copyright extention
@@direstr7768 Lisa was totally a good kid AND a left-wing activist. She was _active_ in her support of left-wing issues, such as ecology, animal rights and women's rights. Entire scenes and episodes revolve around her standing up against established traditional institutions like the United States government, the police and the church, the meat industry and other big businesses of Springfield. The scenes also frame these stances as being on the right, even when she mishandles her methods as part of her growth as a character. As the more radical writers left the show and were replaced by toothless Fox minions, her left-leaning tendencies were re-signified as signs of a trend-chasing annoying little preacher. Those scenes frame her as being in the wrong. Reflecting what the higher-ups want us to think of people with such concerns.
I feel like "The Simpsons Movie" was the last hurray for this show (a series I did love, a long time ago). The movie brought in a lot of the tv shows former greatest writers such as Al Jean and Sam Simon, writers who had written for the golden age of the show, which made a huge difference in terms of the comedy in the movie. It felt like what The Simpsons used to be. If they did a sequel and brought back Conan O'Brien, and a lot of those other gifted, and funny writers; I'd be first in line for a movie sequel. The tv show however, I just don't have any inclination to watch.
I don’t even use Disney Plus, but watching these clips in this review, it just makes me depressed. As if The Simpsons isn’t dead enough, Disney is kicking the horse’s decaying corpse.
The Simpsons really was a show for the 90's and should have ended in that decade. It would have gone down as one of the greatest TV shows in history if it did
Remember when Homer is mistaken for the Incredible Hulk rampaging downtown then Stan Lee himself walks out of Comic Book Guy's shop, declares himself the Hulk, fails to transform, insists he really did it once, and then is ushered back into the store?
Stan Lee: _"HE Can't be the Hulk! _*_I'M_*_ the Hulk (attempts to transform)!"_ Comic Book Guy: _"Oh please! You couldn't even change into Bill Bixby!"_
What I think added to early Simpsons being so perfectly cynical, was Matt Groening’s past. Groening grew up in a very anti-authority time, in an anti-authority city. Krusty himself is a direct parody of Rusty, a Portland area clown. And that sort of directed cynicism eventually devolved into a generalized bitterness, which then devolved into this Disney-approved “haha look at these sight gags”. Like an old man, who used to bite through solid wood, slowly losing his teeth and having them replaced by dentures made of rubber.
@@ikept_the_jethryk2421 That was the entire point of the episode where Homer becomes a hippy, which itself came out almost 30 years ago. Your timing is off.
If you read Groening's comic "Life in Hell" you can really see how brutally he tears into leaders and authority figures in his early roots. It's quite satisfying in a pessimistic way.
"Almost everything is just flattened out to the joke being: 'Here's a thing you recognize.'" In other words, The Big Bang Theory. This isn't a Simpsons problem, it's an industry culture problem.
Yeah, true, I miss the days when people like Mel Brooks, Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker or shows like Robot Chicken or Ill-ustrated showed how to do parody right. Today it's all the Seltzer-Friedberg way of parody: Just reference something and that's already the joke.
That's precisely why I gave up on Family Guy and that predated Big Bang. I watched "Little Shop of Horrors" and realized a musical number they did in one episode wasn't even original.
When I was a kid in the 90s, I literally had multiple friends who were not allowed to watch the Simpsons. That's how edgy they were. And yes, I was like 7-10 years old when they first came out, but still.
I remember this. I had a friend who's parents forbade him from watching the show. His parents made him watch The Cosby Show instead. (Bill Cosby was considered a more wholesome role model than Bart Simpson at the time.)
I still remember my mom not letting me watch a few episodes back in the day (mostly the more violent/sexual ones) I was allowed to watch most of the show back then at least!
I'm so glad my Daddy passed just after the theatrical release of the movie. He was the BIGGEST Simpsons fan I've ever met in person. It woulda broken his heart so badly to see this horrible turn of events. I agree the Simpsons deserves better, in the same way Alan Turing deserved better.
Worth mentioning with Krusty that how little respect he has for his audience depends on the episode. I mean, in Camp Krusty he made it up to the kids when he learned how his camp was being run. And he is definitely cynical, but I think like Homer he’s at his best when he’s portrayed as a jerk with a heart of gold rather than just a jerk
In season 3 we learn that he has regular dinners with the Simpsons family as a thank you for Bart exposing sideshow bob. Krusty doesn't become the cynic asshole until s5
frankly, when they invite Krusty to dinner and find out he was jewish, made me think he was a very complicated clown, I mean guy, and I started to 'care' for him. a Single scene, an amazing effect of sympathy for me
@@lanceuppercut_ "That was in 2015, before the whole thing with Disney" Because you only heard praises when it came to the quality of the simpsons in 2015... right? The "mapple" episode where lisa is basically shilling for apple was released in 2008...
@@lanceuppercut_ I wasn't blaming disney for it. My point was that simpsons threw their "anti corporate greed"-values and all that out the window completely by themself... they have done it perfectly fine without disney. I forgot the context about the couch gag from my first comment... that's why it seemed like a random change of topic ^^
*in Marge voice* "It's not even supposed to be comedy anymore! It's NOT even supposed to be a joke anymore! The Bart Simpson Butterfingers commercials had more integrity than what the show is now!"
The anniversary short is absolutely a microcosm of how cynical and uncreative popular media has become, and a testament to how Disney is a modern monopoly but the government won't do anything about it.
I never felt like Disney Plus deserved to have The Simpsons. If anything that would be unthinkable for The Simpsons to be owned by Disney just a few years ago.
@@narkenstein5303 There was also the Simpsons movie where Bart mocks Mickey Mouse as the mascot of Disney. Unfortunately that joke hasn't aged well now.
They've basically used the Simpsons as Disney version of Family Guy which I'm sure is next on the chopping block to be neutered since Disney so aggressively marketed both shows together after the Fox acquisition.
If the show had ended a decade ago I know now we would be saying something like “Imagine what Disney+ would have done to the Simpsons”. Only this is the timeline we live in and we don’t have to imagine. It really is depressing.
The "This is what happens when Disney buys Marvel and Fox" joke is more of a joke on the audience, than anything. They are addressing that their viewers are consuming garbage.
Seriously. That's the only way I can read that. "This is the suffering that is to come. What did you expect." The only alternative I can think of is that someone who worked on this thinks that they've done something so great that they would brag about it in the short itself.
Not shocking at all. Disney as a company has less than zero self awareness. This is a company mocked by people and Disnry is like "Well at least they are talking about us!" As somebody who hasn't really enjoyed the Simpsons much in the last 20 years these do not interest me at all. Because they are 100% ads or commercials.
I remember one of the post-Disney episodes that takes place in the future has a gag about Disney overthrowing America. It's not funny when Disney says it. It just sounds threatening.
Seeing Elsa in Simpsons style but not with yellow skin weirds me out. I mean sure they have characters with non-yellow skin, but they're usually reserved for colors of other races such as black, hispanic, asian, etc.
The Simpsons definitely became the very thing they used to mock and oppose, from both the Poochy joke and the Itch/Scratchy creator case episode. Now they're turning into what the minions were for a while. Just used for mindless advertisement and corporate IP reference ads.
Canceling Apu would have been something they'd have mocked in an entire episode in the 90s. Now, they've sold themselves out willingly and they cancel gladly.
@@jeffreyriley8742 Apu wasn't "cancelled", an Indian person just wanted to raise discourse about it. He's fan of the show and didn't ask them to remove Apu. The reaction to it shows that any critique about social justice, no matter how reasonable, will be considered "canceling" and bad by definition. Mostly by people who didn't watch the documentary and don't care what it was saying.
If you believe that it wasn't an attempt at canceling then I don't know what to tell you. It's called cancelling because that's what it is. Search up brain dump: apu to see why he was not a fan, because if he was he would know apu is more then a 1 dimensional stereotype.
@@joedane8064 I guess as an Indian person, he doesn't know what he's talking about and he should have asked white dudes first before sharing his opinion..
@@WillowJordan1979 While you are obviously being sarcastic, yes, it is a good idea to know about the thing you are trying to cancel before you go and just blindly hate on it due to purely superficial reasons. Apu was an amazing character and in no way a harmful stereotype; he was a small business owner, a loving and doting husband, a great father to all his kids, and willing to work hard to succeed in a country that he moved to for better opportunities. Compare him to homer simpson, and his casual child abuse of Bart and lack of general caring towards his family, and you will see how dumb the critique of supposed racism is. In attempting to fight racism, the dude was being the racist one, by not bothering to dig deeper in the slightest and only bothering to note supposed bad surface characteristics. Was Apu made fun of? Sure, but not as badly as anyone else. I hope we may continue to be civil. I understand your point, but must disagree wholeheartedly. :)
I'll say it once, and say it again: The Simpsons Movie should have been the end of the franchise. Also, I do think the reason why they're not poking fun at Disney a lot more than they did with FOX is because Disney's too big now. Beating them up means shit because they're just going to swallow you anyway if your company goes bankrupt. Hell, the only time the show actually was hilarious is ironically when they brought the son of one of the original screenwriters on and his promotional ads for the episode mentioned Maggie dying. RIP Blue Sky.
Besides, the movie really isn’t that good. I’ve only watched it three or four times compared to Beavis and Butthead Do America which I watched over 10 times.
The last series which I thought was good was the year Trump became president, when on the Thanksgiving show they had on the opening credits 'This year a turkey will pardon the president.' There is the odd episode which is funny, but it's long since lost what made it great. (And even the series I've mentioned as being the last good one pales in comparison to the classic ones.)
meh simpsons was that before disney bought fox last 2 simpsons i watched was the crossover whit family guy and futerama maby also treehouse of horror??? but i dont remember it at al so couldn't be that good
why would they care for 'artistic freedom', when they own so many IP that they could tell you the same story for 50 more years and keep making money out of it(while you or your family 'love it'). Disney media has become just like the parks, a perpetual money-maker that only needs an oil change every now and then. If you want 'artistic freedom' or 'storytelling' you go where the artists are, i.e. somewhere else AAANNDD thats not a bad thing; I like Disney. But I do know what I'm getting out of it and don't expect them to change my life or do 'groundbreaking' anything these days
So often writers don’t understand the difference between a parody & a reference So much of animated comedy in The Simpsons, Family Guy & to a slightly lesser extent American Dad is them showing you a reference to say a Star Wars or Marvel character & saying recognise this & laugh you sheep
Yeah, sadly the times ofpeople like Mel Brooks or Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker, who knew how to do parody right, are over - today it's way too often the Seltzer-Friedberg way of parody: Just reference something and that's already the whole joke.
I honestly feel sorry for Simpsons and Sponge Bob Square Pants. At this point the only way they’ll ever be allowed to end will be when one of the voice actors dies and it’s too bad taste to replace them. That’s assuming studios and networks don’t try to replicate their voices with deep fake voices.
They already found political reasons to start replacing them. At some point they’ll just figure out that one of them is descended from slave owners or something
@@BassiKun99 yeah, basically if this is so bland and edgeless is because they have restrictions. There are interviews with Phineas and Ferb creators about the restrictions and rewritings on their Marvel /star wars episodes, and its Phineas and ferb, how offensive can they be to the properties? The point is they shouldnt , they didnt asked Jesus or Bill Clinton how they wanted to be portrayed, they just made the funniest thing they could and thats was all. They put Elton John on a dog carrier! The show should be able to mock everyone that appears on an episode.
I just cancelled my Disney+ subscription. I decided to try it because it was fairly priced, and I wanted to check out The Mandalorian and conveniently watch The Simpsons. But I noticed they censored some parts of the episodes (they edited the cliff-falling scene from Bart the Daredevil), and the fact that they removed the episode Stark Raving Dad because of that bullshit Leaving Neverland documentary is just disgusting.
How much did they cut out of the Simpsons episodes? Even watching it on network TV there were scenes cut out during syndication runs that were only shown the first time it aired.
@@MidCentury43 It's bullshit after the revelation that Matt Groening was on one of Epstein's planes. Anyone who believes he got just a massage must also still believe in Santa Claus.
You guys know you don't have to watch them right? Like, you can actually find something to fill your time that you enjoy. Purposely making yourself miserable just so you feel like you have a personality is double digit IQ.
@@TheBlarggle "Why do you care that our entertainment is being dumbed down and in a few years Disney will own every single franchise and turn them into the same bland copypasted shit? LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS!"
@@nizarhadeli9104 yep yep this is true they wont make it any better. However i do give em credit for at least creating adult swim. Thats the only good thing they ever do for animation or internet culture for the most part.
Did anyone anywhere apart from those who stood to profit from it think it was a good idea? I don't think I've heard anyone say anything about it besides "you've gotta be kidding me" apart from the semi-self-delusional wishful thinking from a few Anastasia fans saying they finally get to call Anastasia a "Disney princess", despite Anastasia's never having been created or released by Disney in any way, shape or form.
@@sitcomchristian6886 Studios closed, films basically sent out to die after their marketing campaigns were screwed over, thousands of jobs lost, one of the biggest competitors in the industry just swallowed whole, and manchildren make it about their precious crossovers. Nah. Fuck ‘em.
The thing about the Disney Plus Simpsons Shorts that really gets under my skin is the fact that it feels like the polar opposite of what made The Simpsons, well... The Simpsons. The older seasons used to mock things like this, tear them apart until nothing was left, and it worked because of the entertainment climate of it's time. Now it's literally a parody of itself, and it's not that hard to see why so many people, including me, hate these shorts.
Here's what the compromise between Groening and Fox should have gone: The Simpsons ending in 1997 with a theatrical release having the franchise live off comic books,video games, TV specials etc.
Tge Simpsons have been called out for their decline in quality over the years, and Disney making them produce bland, hollow shorts with zero self-awareness only highlights that and them looking like a soulless company.
I'd seen them posted in Disney+ but could never be bothered to watch the shorts in the same way I don't want to see anything after season 10 of the Simpsons, thank you for your sacrifice in watching them for us, they're worse than what I expected. This...isn't the show that had such an impact on me on my teenage years, it's something else pretending to be them. Just let them go already.
@@mindlander Lol yep. The specific reason I started watching the show again was that well, having it on a streaming service I could finally re-watch everything, and two, instead of being slightly older than Bart, I'm slightly older than Homer, and as baffling as it might sound old seasons Homer has a ton of good critique/satire and advice for a dad & husband like me. Whatever happens, he's a dad who will do what it takes to do his family right, in spite of being not too bright. As the seasons went on and he started more to just be a goofball and that was the main thing in the seasons I found myself skipping over more and more episodes until I just stopped watching.
@@zeroelus hot damn! My friend, you are so right. My wife and I don't have kids but Homer and Marge have wisdom concerning a married life I never recognized the first time around.
holy shit seeing loki drawn in the simpsons style reminds me of the shitty fanart you can buy of your family sitting on the simpson's couch I hate it so much
Man this hits it’s perfectly with so many Disney IPs now. I keep asking myself, “why do you care so much about why all these remakes and sequels suck?” Maybe because it used to be something special but all that has been scooped out, like a dead comedian reanimated to sell products for a corporation. You see it, you feel that affinity, then seconds in you realize something is really really wrong.
I randomly caught the Loki short (which is the first time I've watched the Simpsons in probably 15 years) and found it painfully unfunny. My first thought was If this is how far it's fallen how is it still on the air? More surprising was the response to it I found online was mostly positive. People saying things like "Haha when Loki said "Noooo not Springfield" I nearly wet myself!". I get humour is subject but I genuinely struggle to see how even young kids would find that funny
Remember the song "They'll Never Stop the Simpsons" from the end of Gump Roast? Well, now that our favorite family is in the hands of the Mouse, they probably really never will.
I feel like the simpson got a lot of its humor from punching up as you said in the video - anti-authority and all that, but how can you do that when you're a successful longrunning series and part of one of the most monopolistic media corporations in the world?
@@samanjj The Simpsons and Matt Groening can't punch up or do biting satire anymore regardless of who owns them. The Simpsons won. They are the cheap Establishment humor. There is nothing more to punch up. The only thing that can happen now is one of the show writers go AWOL and mention on the show how Matt Groening was buddy buddy with Epstein somehow.
For some reason, even bringing in new writers with fresh voices and new stories can’t seem to liven up or reverse the effects of shows that have succumbed to Flanderization. Just look at It’s Always Sunny. It’s Always Sad, but that’s why we need to learn to let go of things instead of clinging to them forever.
Usually when That happens it's because the new writers are basing their work on the most recent stuff rather than trying to do their own thing or look back to the past to see what Works.
"New talent" probably equals "disposable talent." I'm imagining that in those situations, the writers are too afraid of ticking off their new bosses to try anything genuinely creative.
I like the show until season 8ish. And there were some hints of goodness from there until the movie, but they still have some dignity. Now, the dignity is gone. The amount lazy corporate stuff is overwhelming the clever and ironic humor that the show once had.
It's sad to see how far this show has fallen. It's gone from a show my parents forbade me from watching as a kid in the 80s to now being whatever this garbage is.
The Simpsons needs to be canceled already It's literally the only thing these people know how to do and that's why they don't want to cancel it They don't know how to move on with their lives even though the show was objectively not as good as it used to be
@@immanuelsuleiman7550 yeah I don't even know how somebody can know that Conan O'Brien used to write for the show and still not know that it was literally over 2 decades ago. Conan O'Brien's role in the Simpsons was extremely short lived too.
Just a minor correction, the Longest Daycare was from 2012, which was pre Disney and even nominated for an Oscar. But the Playdate with Destiny did play with Onward. At the time I thought cynically that it was a Maggie short because the simpsons team weren't given any money for voice actors so they made it a silent short in essence. It's wild to think that ended up forcing them to be more creative... unlike what's come since.
If I wanted to see a host of classic Disney characters enjoy a get together at an establishment, I'd watch House of Mouse. It was soo good, but isn't on disney+, like wtf?
"Disney needs to stop" Literally my thoughts everytimes Disney gets a new property from anyone. They own too much and eventually that's gonna cause issues.
Nothing sums up The Simpsons being owned by Disney better then the promo where each member of the family was dressed as a character from a different property and Homer threatened to hurt Bart if he didn’t fall in line.
Plusaversary is the worst one for me. Not because it was bad but, because it was genuinely one of the most bland and corporate things i have ever seen, yet the simpsons thought they wrote something super edgy. Like ffs you didn’t even have the real Mickey in the short why do you think your short is sticking it to anyone or anything? Honestly, i don’t even think Disney would stop them from actually making fun of them so it makes it even more sad that this is what the Simpsons made.
Between this, space jam 2, free guy, etc etc.. it really feels kinda insulting the way Hollywood writes for us now. Like “just show them a reference to something they know and call it a day”
This was the logical extreme of how bad the last 15 years of the simpsons is. I dont even think we can blame Disney this time, Fox destropyed any credibility this show had
@@alidaraie To be honest I am pretty sure Matt Groening is no longer involved with the show. He left to work on Futurama and then after Futurama finished he went to work on Disenchanted.
True. This even surpasses episodes like Lisa Goes Gaga or Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy or the cameos by Tony Blair or Elon Musk when it comes to the title of "Worst thing ever associated with the Simpsons".
I feel like this is just a natural extension of what Simpsons has been doing already (with a heavy shove from Disney). For the past decade or whatever, whenever they satirize from property, and dress up their characters from characters in that property, I've found it's usually just been, "Hey, this simpsons character is dressed like that other character. That's pretty funny, huh?"
Yes, thank you for this video. I hated these shorts, especially the Plusaversary one, it generally made me feel sick to see what has happened to the Simpsons.
Lisa being the one to advocate for Disney is exactly what they want from a certain perspective. That being that if Lisa of all people in the Simpsons family is cool with them, then surely they can't be all that bad.
@@AN474-e1oLisa's envy and insecurity in "Lisa's Rival" makes her more human and relatable, and shows she's a flawed character like everyone else in the Simpsons. It's a great, classic episode, and I love it as a huge Lisa fan. I love the fact that Lisa isn't perfect.
There's something to be said about that that Mr Plow gag at the end having me in tears laughing, when I don't think I've even smiled watching the simpsons in decades.
Disney was ALWAYS slimy and incompetent, theres just no hiding it anymore as people have gotten smarter. And they know it. So they dont even bother trying to hide it.
In the Plusaversary short, I really loved the new broship Homer and Goofy had, and I wish we could've seen more of it. But I was really outraged how Lisa (who is one of the smartest characters) sings a song about how great Disney+ is in the short. This absolutely contradicts her usual character, especially from the season 2 episode _Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish,_ where she didn't want to be forced to read lines how great Mr. Burns would be as a governor when Mr. Burns came to dinner at the Simpsons house during his campaign.
It's everything wrong with the past 20 years of *The Simpsons* plus everything wrong with the past 20 years of Disney. Like two trains crashing into each other that were already on fire.
@@Attmay True. The Simpsons went from a show that subverted popular culture to a show that celebrates popular culture - and Disney went from a creative, innovative entertainment company to a greedy multi-billion-dollar company that just cashes in on its nostalgia instead of investing any creativity. And with these shorts, both hit a new low with that.
They were willing to take a jab at Fox pretty much in every episode, and Fox always took it in the chin. Really speaks volumes about how fragile Disney's ego really is.
It's really sad what they've become, but Fox didn't always accept it, they tried to sue the Simpsons back in the day for making fun of them, they only relented when it was pointed out to them that there were essentially suing themselves since they owned it.
Oh god, yes! Thank you! I've been watching old Simpsons seasons for the past few months, and whenever one of these shorts show up the contrast is palpable.
I feel like I would have been happier not knowing that these existed. I don't blame you, but clicking on this video has made my life minutely and temporarily a little worse.
This is what happens when an organisation is handed the responsibility of satirising itself. Nice, light, management-approved cosmetic scrutiny that then allows them to feel that they've exonerated themselves by being self-critical
The commercialization of all media itself has gotten out of hand. You can't ever just make something for the sake of creativity anymore, it has to be marketable AND popular. Just such a decline for humanity
I thought that these Marvel and Plusaversy Shorts could have been better if they were just 10-20 minutes longer. While they did have some decent easter eggs, they definitely felt more like commercials. 😔
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The great irony is the simpsons predicted this
Yes I do
Also can you do a video on DC League of Super Pets.
"Lisa being a shill for disney is so weird, anyway here's a pinned random question to drive engagement and go sign up to this crap"
Disney+ marvel TV shows are horrid too
Monorail.
Bart playing Mickey in a short...remember when the Simpsons Movie literally had bart wear a bra and say "I'm the mascot of an evil corporation"
I'm surprised Disney didn't remove that scene when it came to Disney Plus.
@@predaprime They still might...
@@xuruiyu Anything to keep themselves looking innocent in the public eye!
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They become the very thing they swore to destroy
The irony of Lisa being the one to do the song advertising and glorifying Disney a mega media congrolomorate when she is the most leftie anti-establishment character in the show. Shows you how much respect there is for the characters.
Either that or her va is the only one who still sounds decent compared to Marge
@BK Beatty See but that has potential to be a joke and that's clearly not what they're going for.
Like Homer weakly trying to have morals and how he won't sell out to an evil corporation until the Mouse holds up a case of beer, then he breaks out into a song and dance routine while getting drunk off his ass.
I mean, that IS what leftists have basically become, so it kind of does follow what she’s do politically
To be fair, leftists in modern day America are huge supporters of media propaganda, so its not very far off.. Sure 15-20 years ago it would be way off but now? No. Roles have reversed and honestly now, conservatives are the ones fighting for free speech and the eradication of censorship and media monopolies
Maybe what’s more concerning is that our society has shifted in a way that makes the Lisa of old seem like a relic of a lost time. She lived in a world where she would rage against the blatantly conservative interest serving corporations and media. Now we are in a world where these corporations, and the media, pander to people like Lisa for profit, while actually doing the bidding of the “right” in many respects in reality, and many young liberals like Lisa go along for the ride. The actual “anti-establishment” left tends to be a lot further to the left than Lisa usually is, while the more common anti-establishment group, or the ones who view themselves that way, is now the right… which is also very concerning.
The fact that The Simpsons is becoming the puppet of Disney is a joke in itself.
I feel that is the meta context being missed here. The Simpsons literally and figuratively sold out and they know it.
They've always sold out beyond the bashing of social norms was the underline marketing appeal like merchandising was massive as early as the first couple of seasons celebrities were pervasive.
Only difference is now there's a platform to complain about how the series is selling out
@@demonking-zm3rs I think you’re arguing in bad faith there. Having merchandise isn’t selling out. Simpson hit the same pitfall a lot of satire does where it eventually becomes what it made fun of
@@-Lola. I'm arguing that the way merchandise was so prevalent was them selling out. It wasn't just the usual shirts and toy's there franchise was for most of the 80" s and 90's plastered on everything and its image basically tied to every product under the sun.
Celebrity guests star's were still (while toned down) given reverence and they still collaborated with the purpose of expanding the IP The Bart Man Butterfinger.
Like show's do this but not on the same scale that The Simpson's did as for Satire no a show develops as society changes the early seasons people find so amazing stop being satirical very early on replaced with either traditional or observational humor.
So the idea that its now selling out is kind of a joke it was a good show but it was still even then selling you a brand its like the Transformers they were made to sell toy's you can enjoy them and create meaning from it but it's a product first and a movie/show second
@@demonking-zm3rs it’s still a good show. This last season has had some solid episodes and had me laughing more than I laughed with the Simpsons in a long time.
I love how a majority of the older Disney characters look utterly miserable in the clips you showed. Goofy was the happiest looking and even he's been driven to drinking.
They used to do drunk jokes in classic Disney cartoons. But the idea of Homer meeting Goofy is just artistically inorganic and reeks of shilling.
Yeah...almost like their FORCED to be here or something.
Disney making Plusiversary: “This is great, look at all the franchises we own!”
Everyone watching Plusiversary: “Dear God, look at all the franchises they own”
"WhO cArEs - nOw I cAn SeE tHe X-mEn In ThE mCu!!!!" -_-
I know right. Didn't know WALL-E is Disney's property too
Worse than Crackle?
Look at all the franchises they've ruined
Definition of monopoly.
Lisa is the last character who would shill Disney+ so shamelessly. It goes against every fibre of her being as an anti-corporate, anti-materialist, anti-sellout, left-wing activist. Whoever wrote the script completely misunderstood her character.
Misunderstood? Or didn’t care at all
Lisa is not that, at least not when the show was good, is even sadder, Lisa was the voice of reason, not a neowoke hipster milenial, she was a good kid, who was smart enought to point the bullshit and make the right calls. Then they got lazy and put her as this neowoke activist for no reason, who praises apple???? it was so bad. And now is not even that neowoke, is a fuckinf brand, not even pretending to be a fellow kid, is just a merch at the pisshole that is disney, and its infinity copyright extention
@@direstr7768 Lisa was totally a good kid AND a left-wing activist. She was _active_ in her support of left-wing issues, such as ecology, animal rights and women's rights. Entire scenes and episodes revolve around her standing up against established traditional institutions like the United States government, the police and the church, the meat industry and other big businesses of Springfield. The scenes also frame these stances as being on the right, even when she mishandles her methods as part of her growth as a character. As the more radical writers left the show and were replaced by toothless Fox minions, her left-leaning tendencies were re-signified as signs of a trend-chasing annoying little preacher. Those scenes frame her as being in the wrong. Reflecting what the higher-ups want us to think of people with such concerns.
Honestly she would.
Most anti corporate leftists love Disney.
Liberal
I feel like "The Simpsons Movie" was the last hurray for this show (a series I did love, a long time ago). The movie brought in a lot of the tv shows former greatest writers such as Al Jean and Sam Simon, writers who had written for the golden age of the show, which made a huge difference in terms of the comedy in the movie. It felt like what The Simpsons used to be. If they did a sequel and brought back Conan O'Brien, and a lot of those other gifted, and funny writers; I'd be first in line for a movie sequel. The tv show however, I just don't have any inclination to watch.
How old are you? I'm curious.
@@mindlander 4
@@mindlander 347
Like with the 1st spongebob movie
@@moosejuice4231 I don't care about you jing jong jang.
I don’t even use Disney Plus, but watching these clips in this review, it just makes me depressed. As if The Simpsons isn’t dead enough, Disney is kicking the horse’s decaying corpse.
Seems like Disney kills everything
@Simple Weirdo was Star Wars also dead before they bought it?
Not even the corpse, they’re beating the vapor of what’s left of the corpse.
@@t-god2439 it really depends on who you ask
@@t-god2439 to be fair Fox already did the deed already
Lisa from the 90s would have stormed out after yelling at every character, and the viewers.
The show went from mocking and deconstruction the stagnation of pop culture, to ending up embracing and becoming pop culture....
They have officially lived long enough to become the villain.
That's how much the show has fallen.
Welcome to the past 20 years.
The Simpsons really was a show for the 90's and should have ended in that decade. It would have gone down as one of the greatest TV shows in history if it did
@@ballshippin3809 it still is considered one of the best shows ever we just ignore the new episodes.
The weird and sad thing is that the Mickey shorts made more fun of Disney than the Simpsons did
Ironic isn't it
Mickey shorts... I'm wearing some!
@@superfurryfox1 😂
It's almost like corporate Disney forced the voice actress to do this, like they want revenge for what she said in the Simpsons movie.
Kind of the same way The Simpsons TV show makes fun of Fox too, especially the older ones
Remember when Homer is mistaken for the Incredible Hulk rampaging downtown then Stan Lee himself walks out of Comic Book Guy's shop, declares himself the Hulk, fails to transform, insists he really did it once, and then is ushered back into the store?
I haven't seen that episode in so long. But I can picture the scene perfectly and now I'm getting the giggles.
Stan Lee: _"HE Can't be the Hulk! _*_I'M_*_ the Hulk (attempts to transform)!"_
Comic Book Guy: _"Oh please! You couldn't even change into Bill Bixby!"_
Good times good times
"Broke? Or made it better?"
@@velociraptor4you3291 Stan Lee: "I really did it once."
What I think added to early Simpsons being so perfectly cynical, was Matt Groening’s past. Groening grew up in a very anti-authority time, in an anti-authority city. Krusty himself is a direct parody of Rusty, a Portland area clown. And that sort of directed cynicism eventually devolved into a generalized bitterness, which then devolved into this Disney-approved “haha look at these sight gags”. Like an old man, who used to bite through solid wood, slowly losing his teeth and having them replaced by dentures made of rubber.
Holy shit, this was poetic as hell.
Pretty much the whole left took this journey the last thirty thirty years, from cynical pranksters to bitter corporate shills
@@ikept_the_jethryk2421 Brutal but accurate
@@ikept_the_jethryk2421 That was the entire point of the episode where Homer becomes a hippy, which itself came out almost 30 years ago.
Your timing is off.
If you read Groening's comic "Life in Hell" you can really see how brutally he tears into leaders and authority figures in his early roots. It's quite satisfying in a pessimistic way.
"Almost everything is just flattened out to the joke being: 'Here's a thing you recognize.'"
In other words, The Big Bang Theory.
This isn't a Simpsons problem, it's an industry culture problem.
Yeah, true, I miss the days when people like Mel Brooks, Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker or shows like Robot Chicken or Ill-ustrated showed how to do parody right. Today it's all the Seltzer-Friedberg way of parody: Just reference something and that's already the joke.
It's not a joke. It's brand placement.
That's precisely why I gave up on Family Guy and that predated Big Bang. I watched "Little Shop of Horrors" and realized a musical number they did in one episode wasn't even original.
When I was a kid in the 90s, I literally had multiple friends who were not allowed to watch the Simpsons. That's how edgy they were. And yes, I was like 7-10 years old when they first came out, but still.
I remember this. I had a friend who's parents forbade him from watching the show. His parents made him watch The Cosby Show instead. (Bill Cosby was considered a more wholesome role model than Bart Simpson at the time.)
That was me. But my parents had no problem if I watched Seinfeld as an 8 year old. I remember 'The Bet' episode; how was that any better? 😅
@@lukerinderknecht2982 I would watch Seinfeld just hanging around my Dad as a little kid and I can guarantee you 90% of the jokes went over my head
@@KasumiKenshirou And don't forget the T-shirts. You had parents that didn't like Bart Simpson saying swear words on them
I still remember my mom not letting me watch a few episodes back in the day (mostly the more violent/sexual ones)
I was allowed to watch most of the show back then at least!
so sad to see what Simpsons has become, especially considering what they represented in 90s, they're everything they used to mock.
something something batman quote live enough to be the villan
Similar to how Spongebob should have ended with the 2004 movie because Stephen said it is the end of the show for him.
@@direstr7768 It's "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
@@Thomasmemoryscentral But at least modern SpongeBob is actually good and SpongeBob is not shilling.
I keep the first 4 seasons. The show the way it was meant to be.
Bart mocking Mickey in the Simpsons movie: "I'm the mastermind of an evil corporation"
Bart in the shorts: "Pls don't kill me Bob Iger"
Bart, blink three times if you need me to call somebody.
It's not mastermind, it's mascot.
@A Catalan Liam it's a mascot, it's a mascot
@@jkdjjj it’s from the movie
@@DancesWithFriesiansCall Saul then
The Simpsons is milking their past success way too hard. Quantity over quality is never a good strategy.
Agreed. When all you have in mind is money, creative integrity goes out the window.
The simpsons season 100 on the horizon...
Yep, Futurama will always be better because they knew when to quit, they had a few bad episodes but they never overcast the good ones
I don't know anyone that watches the Simpsons anymore
Ikr it even goes against Walt Disney's own method of entertainment: quality over quantity
I'm so glad my Daddy passed just after the theatrical release of the movie. He was the BIGGEST Simpsons fan I've ever met in person. It woulda broken his heart so badly to see this horrible turn of events.
I agree the Simpsons deserves better, in the same way Alan Turing deserved better.
This is one of the reasons I'm not excited at all about the Futurama revival.
That’s a thing, holy sh-t
They're gonna massacre my boy
Please god, no ....
Worth mentioning with Krusty that how little respect he has for his audience depends on the episode. I mean, in Camp Krusty he made it up to the kids when he learned how his camp was being run. And he is definitely cynical, but I think like Homer he’s at his best when he’s portrayed as a jerk with a heart of gold rather than just a jerk
In season 3 we learn that he has regular dinners with the Simpsons family as a thank you for Bart exposing sideshow bob. Krusty doesn't become the cynic asshole until s5
@@mjwgames9812 Yeah and even then, often a Jerk With a Heart of Gold.
@@mjwgames9812 Hell, we learn in a flashback that he wanted to become a clown because he likes making people laugh.
frankly, when they invite Krusty to dinner and find out he was jewish, made me think he was a very complicated clown, I mean guy, and I started to 'care' for him. a Single scene, an amazing effect of sympathy for me
Plus Krusty's Laugh Is Hilarious
Every time Disney has something like these crossover shorts, it feels like they’re insulting the attention spans and taste of the viewers.
The rick and morty couch gag was alright... but there was no real story and it doesn't last very long. So not much to screw up :D
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 That was in 2015, before the whole thing with Disney
@@lanceuppercut_ "That was in 2015, before the whole thing with Disney" Because you only heard praises when it came to the quality of the simpsons in 2015... right?
The "mapple" episode where lisa is basically shilling for apple was released in 2008...
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 You're right, I'm just saying you can't blame Disney for that
@@lanceuppercut_ I wasn't blaming disney for it.
My point was that simpsons threw their "anti corporate greed"-values and all that out the window completely by themself... they have done it perfectly fine without disney.
I forgot the context about the couch gag from my first comment... that's why it seemed like a random change of topic ^^
*in Marge voice*
"It's not even supposed to be comedy anymore! It's NOT even supposed to be a joke anymore! The Bart Simpson Butterfingers commercials had more integrity than what the show is now!"
Why is that in Marge's voice?
pretty gay reference you got there
"Hey Homer, who's that guy Adam?"
@@ghhn4505 What does it reference?
Absolutely
So the shorts basically do nothing but say "hey, we referenced that thing you know! Isn't that funny?!"
Yep, sounds like a Disney product allright
So basically Simpsons back then, talented, creative, cared about the jokes.
Simpsons now, “hey remember light sabers and Goofy?”
The sound of Marge tearing her voice to keep acting as Marge tears my fucking heart out
The last time I saw an episode of The Simpsons, they had someone else playing Marge's mom.
If that is not the most urgent sign that a show needs to end, then I don’t know what the hell is.
True, but them again noone's forcing her.
@@macsmith2013 Contractual obligation
Who signed the contract, genius
The anniversary short is absolutely a microcosm of how cynical and uncreative popular media has become, and a testament to how Disney is a modern monopoly but the government won't do anything about it.
THIS
We’re gonna have to do something ourselves
Why would they do anything about Disney when Disney funds all their campaign’s
Disney decides what the government does, not the other way around.
Capitalism is destroying society and rest assured it will be getting progressively worse
I never felt like Disney Plus deserved to have The Simpsons. If anything that would be unthinkable for The Simpsons to be owned by Disney just a few years ago.
I wonder if Disney had their sights on the Simpsons just because of that one joke from the 90s about this same thing.
@@narkenstein5303 There was also the Simpsons movie where Bart mocks Mickey Mouse as the mascot of Disney. Unfortunately that joke hasn't aged well now.
i agree but it is nice to have the first 9 seasons available for like $7 a month
The Simpsons really has been the only show I've wanted to see on Disney +
They've basically used the Simpsons as Disney version of Family Guy which I'm sure is next on the chopping block to be neutered since Disney so aggressively marketed both shows together after the Fox acquisition.
If the show had ended a decade ago I know now we would be saying something like “Imagine what Disney+ would have done to the Simpsons”.
Only this is the timeline we live in and we don’t have to imagine. It really is depressing.
Correction, this whole franchise needs to stop. It’s not more than a zombie of its former self
The "This is what happens when Disney buys Marvel and Fox" joke is more of a joke on the audience, than anything.
They are addressing that their viewers are consuming garbage.
Seriously. That's the only way I can read that.
"This is the suffering that is to come. What did you expect."
The only alternative I can think of is that someone who worked on this thinks that they've done something so great that they would brag about it in the short itself.
It feels like a cry for help
Not shocking at all. Disney as a company has less than zero self awareness. This is a company mocked by people and Disnry is like "Well at least they are talking about us!" As somebody who hasn't really enjoyed the Simpsons much in the last 20 years these do not interest me at all. Because they are 100% ads or commercials.
What company of Disney size has more self awareness?
I remember one of the post-Disney episodes that takes place in the future has a gag about Disney overthrowing America.
It's not funny when Disney says it. It just sounds threatening.
The Simpsons is like watching someone do ventriloquism with a corpse.
That honestly sounds funnier.
Wonderfully put!
Weekend At Homie's
*Except instead of two days it's been 20 fucking years...
Well now it is
Weekend at Bernie's, just sad and pathetic.
Seeing Elsa in Simpsons style but not with yellow skin weirds me out.
I mean sure they have characters with non-yellow skin, but they're usually reserved for colors of other races such as black, hispanic, asian, etc.
The literal definition of live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
The Simpsons definitely became the very thing they used to mock and oppose, from both the Poochy joke and the Itch/Scratchy creator case episode. Now they're turning into what the minions were for a while. Just used for mindless advertisement and corporate IP reference ads.
Canceling Apu would have been something they'd have mocked in an entire episode in the 90s. Now, they've sold themselves out willingly and they cancel gladly.
@@jeffreyriley8742 Apu wasn't "cancelled", an Indian person just wanted to raise discourse about it. He's fan of the show and didn't ask them to remove Apu. The reaction to it shows that any critique about social justice, no matter how reasonable, will be considered "canceling" and bad by definition. Mostly by people who didn't watch the documentary and don't care what it was saying.
If you believe that it wasn't an attempt at canceling then I don't know what to tell you. It's called cancelling because that's what it is. Search up brain dump: apu to see why he was not a fan, because if he was he would know apu is more then a 1 dimensional stereotype.
@@joedane8064 I guess as an Indian person, he doesn't know what he's talking about and he should have asked white dudes first before sharing his opinion..
@@WillowJordan1979
While you are obviously being sarcastic, yes, it is a good idea to know about the thing you are trying to cancel before you go and just blindly hate on it due to purely superficial reasons. Apu was an amazing character and in no way a harmful stereotype; he was a small business owner, a loving and doting husband, a great father to all his kids, and willing to work hard to succeed in a country that he moved to for better opportunities. Compare him to homer simpson, and his casual child abuse of Bart and lack of general caring towards his family, and you will see how dumb the critique of supposed racism is.
In attempting to fight racism, the dude was being the racist one, by not bothering to dig deeper in the slightest and only bothering to note supposed bad surface characteristics.
Was Apu made fun of? Sure, but not as badly as anyone else.
I hope we may continue to be civil. I understand your point, but must disagree wholeheartedly. :)
I'll say it once, and say it again: The Simpsons Movie should have been the end of the franchise.
Also, I do think the reason why they're not poking fun at Disney a lot more than they did with FOX is because Disney's too big now. Beating them up means shit because they're just going to swallow you anyway if your company goes bankrupt.
Hell, the only time the show actually was hilarious is ironically when they brought the son of one of the original screenwriters on and his promotional ads for the episode mentioned Maggie dying.
RIP Blue Sky.
Quality, shmality. If I had a TV show, I'd run that baby into the ground!
@@BurnEdOutOne Having watched it over and over unwillingly, it's O.K.
Nah, The movie came too late. The show became garbage after season 10.
Besides, the movie really isn’t that good. I’ve only watched it three or four times compared to Beavis and Butthead Do America which I watched over 10 times.
The last series which I thought was good was the year Trump became president, when on the Thanksgiving show they had on the opening credits 'This year a turkey will pardon the president.' There is the odd episode which is funny, but it's long since lost what made it great. (And even the series I've mentioned as being the last good one pales in comparison to the classic ones.)
Disney: I don’t care for story or artistic freedom all I care for is money and I will do so with endless nostalgia and crossover
Chad
meh simpsons was that before disney bought fox last 2 simpsons i watched was the crossover whit family guy and futerama maby also treehouse of horror??? but i dont remember it at al so couldn't be that good
That has always been Disney's MO
why would they care for 'artistic freedom', when they own so many IP that they could tell you the same story for 50 more years and keep making money out of it(while you or your family 'love it'). Disney media has become just like the parks, a perpetual money-maker that only needs an oil change every now and then. If you want 'artistic freedom' or 'storytelling' you go where the artists are, i.e. somewhere else
AAANNDD thats not a bad thing; I like Disney. But I do know what I'm getting out of it and don't expect them to change my life or do 'groundbreaking' anything these days
What about new stories? Nostalgia was just a fad, DISNEY.
Very well put, sad to see.
Hey Brock, loved your impression videos
So often writers don’t understand the difference between a parody & a reference
So much of animated comedy in The Simpsons, Family Guy & to a slightly lesser extent American Dad is them showing you a reference to say a Star Wars or Marvel character & saying recognise this & laugh you sheep
Yeah, sadly the times ofpeople like Mel Brooks or Zucker-Abrahams-Zucker, who knew how to do parody right, are over - today it's way too often the Seltzer-Friedberg way of parody: Just reference something and that's already the whole joke.
It worst part is that they don't even understand pastiche, either.
I honestly feel sorry for Simpsons and Sponge Bob Square Pants. At this point the only way they’ll ever be allowed to end will be when one of the voice actors dies and it’s too bad taste to replace them.
That’s assuming studios and networks don’t try to replicate their voices with deep fake voices.
yea, unfortunately disney is currently working on deepfakes for the simpsons voice actors, which is depressing and terrifying to think about
Disney has VERY bad taste, so I'm sure they WILL replace them
They already found political reasons to start replacing them. At some point they’ll just figure out that one of them is descended from slave owners or something
@@3cat0 no fucking way, where’d you hear this? That’s horrible if it’s true
Both of those shows could've end but the studios just have to milk them.
If I'm seeing Elsa in Moe's bar I expect her to be drunk. And flirting with Carl.
And having the voice of Barney
I mean they could at least do a Spider-Man X Elsa joke. They own both properties and it'd have some ironic edge.
I think there were some restrictions regarding that, with one of them being that the Disney Princesses could not be shown drinking alcohol.
@@BassiKun99 yeah, basically if this is so bland and edgeless is because they have restrictions. There are interviews with Phineas and Ferb creators about the restrictions and rewritings on their Marvel /star wars episodes, and its Phineas and ferb, how offensive can they be to the properties? The point is they shouldnt , they didnt asked Jesus or Bill Clinton how they wanted to be portrayed, they just made the funniest thing they could and thats was all. They put Elton John on a dog carrier! The show should be able to mock everyone that appears on an episode.
@@Chameleonred5 They own Marvel but not Spider-Man, Sony owns Spider-Man.
The Tom Holland movies we see produced are joint Sony-Disney properties.
I just cancelled my Disney+ subscription. I decided to try it because it was fairly priced, and I wanted to check out The Mandalorian and conveniently watch The Simpsons. But I noticed they censored some parts of the episodes (they edited the cliff-falling scene from Bart the Daredevil), and the fact that they removed the episode Stark Raving Dad because of that bullshit Leaving Neverland documentary is just disgusting.
To be fair, pulling “Stark Raving Dad” was the creators decision, not Disney’s.
Disney has removed a lot of different scenes from many different shows. It isn't just the Simpsons
How much did they cut out of the Simpsons episodes? Even watching it on network TV there were scenes cut out during syndication runs that were only shown the first time it aired.
@@MidCentury43 It's bullshit after the revelation that Matt Groening was on one of Epstein's planes. Anyone who believes he got just a massage must also still believe in Santa Claus.
@@Attmay what happened with the Epsiten thing? What’s it about
"Simpsons, it's 4 PM time to shill our awful comic book movies"
"Yes, Disney"
I mean, why are they even still being made after Endgame? It's right there in the title: ENDgame.
@@cumbrap So when is the Squirrel Girl movie coming out?
You guys know you don't have to watch them right? Like, you can actually find something to fill your time that you enjoy. Purposely making yourself miserable just so you feel like you have a personality is double digit IQ.
@@TheBlarggle "Why do you care that our entertainment is being dumbed down and in a few years Disney will own every single franchise and turn them into the same bland copypasted shit? LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS!"
@@cumbrap If it makes it any better Squirrel Girl would probably only get a tv-show.
To quote the Simpsons: "Stop! Stop! It's already dead!"
Makes me wonder what would've happened if WB had bought Fox's animated properties.
Given what they did with space jam 2, I doubt it would be any better
@@nizarhadeli9104 yep yep this is true they wont make it any better. However i do give em credit for at least creating adult swim. Thats the only good thing they ever do for animation or internet culture for the most part.
The same thing? I mean, Space Jam 2? Why?
They are not different from each other.
The same thing, but with DC characters.
@@zeroelus We’d get The Good, The Bart, And The Joker on HBO Max
Identity theft is not a joke Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!
- Dwight
MICHAEL!
There’s a special place in Hell for the people that romanticized this entire godforsaken buyout.
-a special place in-
Did anyone anywhere apart from those who stood to profit from it think it was a good idea? I don't think I've heard anyone say anything about it besides "you've gotta be kidding me" apart from the semi-self-delusional wishful thinking from a few Anastasia fans saying they finally get to call Anastasia a "Disney princess", despite Anastasia's never having been created or released by Disney in any way, shape or form.
@@jaschabull2365
MCU stans hyped it up a ton when the news first broke.
That seems excessive...and I didn't want the buyout either.
@@sitcomchristian6886
Studios closed, films basically sent out to die after their marketing campaigns were screwed over, thousands of jobs lost, one of the biggest competitors in the industry just swallowed whole, and manchildren make it about their precious crossovers.
Nah. Fuck ‘em.
The thing about the Disney Plus Simpsons Shorts that really gets under my skin is the fact that it feels like the polar opposite of what made The Simpsons, well... The Simpsons. The older seasons used to mock things like this, tear them apart until nothing was left, and it worked because of the entertainment climate of it's time. Now it's literally a parody of itself, and it's not that hard to see why so many people, including me, hate these shorts.
Fun Fact: Matt Groening actually wanted The Simpsons to end in 1997, but Fox refused, causing him to leave as showrunner… yeah…
Here's what the compromise between Groening and Fox should have gone: The Simpsons ending in 1997 with a theatrical release having the franchise live off comic books,video games, TV specials etc.
That's not fun at all .... also reminds me of Spongebob.
Tge Simpsons have been called out for their decline in quality over the years, and Disney making them produce bland, hollow shorts with zero self-awareness only highlights that and them looking like a soulless company.
I'd seen them posted in Disney+ but could never be bothered to watch the shorts in the same way I don't want to see anything after season 10 of the Simpsons, thank you for your sacrifice in watching them for us, they're worse than what I expected.
This...isn't the show that had such an impact on me on my teenage years, it's something else pretending to be them. Just let them go already.
I'm gonna guess you're in your 40s. At least I hope so.
@@mindlander Lol yep. The specific reason I started watching the show again was that well, having it on a streaming service I could finally re-watch everything, and two, instead of being slightly older than Bart, I'm slightly older than Homer, and as baffling as it might sound old seasons Homer has a ton of good critique/satire and advice for a dad & husband like me. Whatever happens, he's a dad who will do what it takes to do his family right, in spite of being not too bright.
As the seasons went on and he started more to just be a goofball and that was the main thing in the seasons I found myself skipping over more and more episodes until I just stopped watching.
@@zeroelus hot damn! My friend, you are so right. My wife and I don't have kids but Homer and Marge have wisdom concerning a married life I never recognized the first time around.
Same here. It all sucks now.
holy shit seeing loki drawn in the simpsons style reminds me of the shitty fanart you can buy of your family sitting on the simpson's couch I hate it so much
Man this hits it’s perfectly with so many Disney IPs now. I keep asking myself, “why do you care so much about why all these remakes and sequels suck?” Maybe because it used to be something special but all that has been scooped out, like a dead comedian reanimated to sell products for a corporation. You see it, you feel that affinity, then seconds in you realize something is really really wrong.
I randomly caught the Loki short (which is the first time I've watched the Simpsons in probably 15 years) and found it painfully unfunny. My first thought was If this is how far it's fallen how is it still on the air? More surprising was the response to it I found online was mostly positive. People saying things like "Haha when Loki said "Noooo not Springfield" I nearly wet myself!". I get humour is subject but I genuinely struggle to see how even young kids would find that funny
Very concerning
Remember the song "They'll Never Stop the Simpsons" from the end of Gump Roast? Well, now that our favorite family is in the hands of the Mouse, they probably really never will.
That was a threat.
I feel like the simpson got a lot of its humor from punching up as you said in the video - anti-authority and all that, but how can you do that when you're a successful longrunning series and part of one of the most monopolistic media corporations in the world?
I agree. They should be allowed to continue punching up - not much has changed - if anything it is worse. We need the old Simpsons more than ever
@@samanjj The Simpsons and Matt Groening can't punch up or do biting satire anymore regardless of who owns them. The Simpsons won. They are the cheap Establishment humor. There is nothing more to punch up. The only thing that can happen now is one of the show writers go AWOL and mention on the show how Matt Groening was buddy buddy with Epstein somehow.
@@jerm70 oh i see where you’re coming from. Ouch 😣
For some reason, even bringing in new writers with fresh voices and new stories can’t seem to liven up or reverse the effects of shows that have succumbed to Flanderization. Just look at It’s Always Sunny. It’s Always Sad, but that’s why we need to learn to let go of things instead of clinging to them forever.
Usually when That happens it's because the new writers are basing their work on the most recent stuff rather than trying to do their own thing or look back to the past to see what Works.
"New talent" probably equals "disposable talent." I'm imagining that in those situations, the writers are too afraid of ticking off their new bosses to try anything genuinely creative.
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is still running.
I like the show until season 8ish. And there were some hints of goodness from there until the movie, but they still have some dignity. Now, the dignity is gone. The amount lazy corporate stuff is overwhelming the clever and ironic humor that the show once had.
It's sad to see how far this show has fallen. It's gone from a show my parents forbade me from watching as a kid in the 80s to now being whatever this garbage is.
“Simpsons shorts can eat my shorts!”
The Simpsons needs to be canceled already
It's literally the only thing these people know how to do and that's why they don't want to cancel it
They don't know how to move on with their lives even though the show was objectively not as good as it used to be
Yeah man, Conan O'Brien would have no career if they canceled the simpsons
@@Guitar-Dog Conan O'Brien hasn't written for the Simpsons since the '90s
@@immanuelsuleiman7550 yeah I don't even know how somebody can know that Conan O'Brien used to write for the show and still not know that it was literally over 2 decades ago. Conan O'Brien's role in the Simpsons was extremely short lived too.
@@sindri1447 because they rather guilt trip you than think.
I love the simpsons but tbh I agree with you cancel them i already seen enough
Just a minor correction, the Longest Daycare was from 2012, which was pre Disney and even nominated for an Oscar. But the Playdate with Destiny did play with Onward. At the time I thought cynically that it was a Maggie short because the simpsons team weren't given any money for voice actors so they made it a silent short in essence. It's wild to think that ended up forcing them to be more creative... unlike what's come since.
"Art thrives on limitations" -Dylan Marron
If I wanted to see a host of classic Disney characters enjoy a get together at an establishment, I'd watch House of Mouse. It was soo good, but isn't on disney+, like wtf?
"Disney needs to stop"
Literally my thoughts everytimes Disney gets a new property from anyone. They own too much and eventually that's gonna cause issues.
A skit of Mickey telling a cynical Krusty to "get back to work" would have been a better joke.
It was a real missed opportunity to not have Dan Castellaneta play the Genie again
He could also have played Elliott the Dragon and dug out his Charlie Callas impression from *The Old Man and the Key.*
"Missed opportunity" sums up a lot of modern media, if you ask me.
Nothing sums up The Simpsons being owned by Disney better then the promo where each member of the family was dressed as a character from a different property and Homer threatened to hurt Bart if he didn’t fall in line.
At this point, The Simpsons has been bad for twice as long as it was good.
Plusaversary is the worst one for me. Not because it was bad but, because it was genuinely one of the most bland and corporate things i have ever seen, yet the simpsons thought they wrote something super edgy. Like ffs you didn’t even have the real Mickey in the short why do you think your short is sticking it to anyone or anything?
Honestly, i don’t even think Disney would stop them from actually making fun of them so it makes it even more sad that this is what the Simpsons made.
Between this, space jam 2, free guy, etc etc.. it really feels kinda insulting the way Hollywood writes for us now. Like “just show them a reference to something they know and call it a day”
*Space Jam 2* missed a golden opportunity to have Linda Lavin come back and play Alice and sing the national anthem.
Yeah, one might call it the Seltzer-Friedberg-Effect...
I disagree on Free Guy. Yes it looked like a typical run-of-the-mill superhero movie on the surface, but it DID have some nuance.
This was the logical extreme of how bad the last 15 years of the simpsons is. I dont even think we can blame Disney this time, Fox destropyed any credibility this show had
Fox killed it and Disney raped the corpse.
"Cheap Disney jokes, poorly written fake satire......Matt Groening must be rolling around in his grave."
He's not dead
@@alcarbo8613 He's dead inside
@@alidaraie To be honest I am pretty sure Matt Groening is no longer involved with the show. He left to work on Futurama and then after Futurama finished he went to work on Disenchanted.
@@b.m.933 Are they better? Yes.
Disney doesn’t see “The Simpsons”, Disney sees “the $ImPsons.”
I grew up with The Simpsons and man this was hard to watch. I stopped watching the series after the movie and from what I watched I have no regrets.
True. This even surpasses episodes like Lisa Goes Gaga or Bart vs. Itchy and Scratchy or the cameos by Tony Blair or Elon Musk when it comes to the title of "Worst thing ever associated with the Simpsons".
I feel like this is just a natural extension of what Simpsons has been doing already (with a heavy shove from Disney). For the past decade or whatever, whenever they satirize from property, and dress up their characters from characters in that property, I've found it's usually just been, "Hey, this simpsons character is dressed like that other character. That's pretty funny, huh?"
Or maybe they just think it's funny because "hey the Simpsons has drawn this franchise character in this style! Laugh!"
Yes, thank you for this video. I hated these shorts, especially the Plusaversary one, it generally made me feel sick to see what has happened to the Simpsons.
The Simpsons has been poor for 20 years.
Lisa being the one to advocate for Disney is exactly what they want from a certain perspective. That being that if Lisa of all people in the Simpsons family is cool with them, then surely they can't be all that bad.
I often find myself thinking of the Itchy and Scratchy Land episode, and also thinking of how often the Simpsons seem to accurately predict things...
Lisa shilling for Disney is probably the most disappointed I've ever been for the character.
She's a scab now
Even more than when tried to sabotage Allison for being smarter than her?
@@AN474-e1o yes
@@AN474-e1oLisa's envy and insecurity in "Lisa's Rival" makes her more human and relatable, and shows she's a flawed character like everyone else in the Simpsons. It's a great, classic episode, and I love it as a huge Lisa fan. I love the fact that Lisa isn't perfect.
There's something to be said about that that Mr Plow gag at the end having me in tears laughing, when I don't think I've even smiled watching the simpsons in decades.
In the 80s, when Disney was back on the balls of their ass, we had so many good/classic films. Coincidence?
Disney was ALWAYS slimy and incompetent, theres just no hiding it anymore as people have gotten smarter. And they know it. So they dont even bother trying to hide it.
I think not
We're trying to get Disney to fail so it can... not do that. Got it!
If Disney really wants to show how much IPs they got, bring back House of Mouse. Like that's basically what thw anniversary short is, but just bad
I'd still argue that the two first Maggie shorts were the best. They were really charming and I wished that they had done more shorts in that vain
The Simpsons should have ended 20 years ago.
In the Plusaversary short, I really loved the new broship Homer and Goofy had, and I wish we could've seen more of it. But I was really outraged how Lisa (who is one of the smartest characters) sings a song about how great Disney+ is in the short. This absolutely contradicts her usual character, especially from the season 2 episode _Two Cars in Every Garage and Three Eyes on Every Fish,_ where she didn't want to be forced to read lines how great Mr. Burns would be as a governor when Mr. Burns came to dinner at the Simpsons house during his campaign.
Disney wants us to consume this entertainment. They're telling us to eat their shorts
Let’s be honest, the Simpsons haven’t been good for awhile now. The shorts are just an extension of that.
It's everything wrong with the past 20 years of *The Simpsons* plus everything wrong with the past 20 years of Disney. Like two trains crashing into each other that were already on fire.
@@Attmay True. The Simpsons went from a show that subverted popular culture to a show that celebrates popular culture - and Disney went from a creative, innovative entertainment company to a greedy multi-billion-dollar company that just cashes in on its nostalgia instead of investing any creativity. And with these shorts, both hit a new low with that.
Your videos are genuinely one of my favorite aspects of Friday. And Friday is already a pretty dope day
I'm surprised they haven't started editing all the old ones yet and changing all the hard edge jokes.
They were willing to take a jab at Fox pretty much in every episode, and Fox always took it in the chin. Really speaks volumes about how fragile Disney's ego really is.
It's really sad what they've become, but Fox didn't always accept it, they tried to sue the Simpsons back in the day for making fun of them, they only relented when it was pointed out to them that there were essentially suing themselves since they owned it.
@@extralevel8253 It still was more than Disney will ever take.
Oh god, yes! Thank you!
I've been watching old Simpsons seasons for the past few months, and whenever one of these shorts show up the contrast is palpable.
I feel like I would have been happier not knowing that these existed. I don't blame you, but clicking on this video has made my life minutely and temporarily a little worse.
Yes, this.
Yes.
It's like seeing a jaguar with its teeth pulled out.
This is what happens when an organisation is handed the responsibility of satirising itself. Nice, light, management-approved cosmetic scrutiny that then allows them to feel that they've exonerated themselves by being self-critical
The commercialization of all media itself has gotten out of hand. You can't ever just make something for the sake of creativity anymore, it has to be marketable AND popular. Just such a decline for humanity
This whole thing just made me sad.
Just bury this show already. Let it die.
I thought that these Marvel and Plusaversy Shorts could have been better if they were just 10-20 minutes longer. While they did have some decent easter eggs, they definitely felt more like commercials. 😔