I had planned to finish this video like a week ago so sorry for it being a little "late". Edit: The helmet + spikes (as someone commented) could still be useful for adrenaline gain.
Yeah, the helm alone is amazing enough. During a Zuk Sword spec or zgs(if using spear with zgs), you can easily get an overpower in before another Zerk and the spikes quite often extend Zuk Sword stacks to 5 as well. These are amazing endgame melee items for sure
@@ProtoxxGaming hit me up next time your gonna make a video discussing your views on combat equipment and we can discuss an investment on it, and a split on the investment.
First I'm glad you're feeling better and thank you for all the content over the years! I love it cuz it brings back memories of the good ol days when the Abby whip was the best weapon in the game at one point
Thanks for sharing bud. I've done 2k Lords on task after 4 dry hours of Nex, so it was nice to watch someone else have fun for a bit lmao. I might give it a go for shits n giggles.
Honestly they should have allowed us to combine this with the dark shard of leng. The fact that they wanted to reduce switchscape and then they added another switch… also you have to switch to leng if you want to hurricane and destroy in berserk rotation
That's seems fine, but there so much other switchs specially for melee, 2h swap for cleave, spear for bleeds, zaros gods word for the special, zuk 2h, the new whip, dragon battle axe and the dual so that's almost half of inventory of switchs if we add rings and other stuff
Another good budget off-hand alternative is t85 dark ice sliver. It is cheaper than drygore, is actually t88 damage and off-hand accuracy does not matter when using abilities. Plus it has a passive which allows you to use hurricane, which is great for slayer and bossing.
If they simply increase the time before stack falloff to average the time it takes kerapac to phase, maybe 12-15 seconds, it's functionality would be much better.
I'm very new to melee as someone who primarily uses range and mage, however I recently bought the t92 with an offhand khopesh and it has been amazing at every boss. I've been streaking glacor higher than I could with ranged, I cleared ed3, and tried at a couple others. I'd recommend helwyr, that ones fun. I am hoping that losing stacks at something like glacor is an unintended bug. I know for me using bladed dive during like ice pillars helps me keep stacks up. The helmet and spikes as well are amazing for learning ez zerk rotations. Especially with inspiration aura. You typically have more adren than you know what to do with
@@moop3788 within hours of the video release it usually hypes and spikes, then goes back to what it was within a few days. So I'd sell it now if I were you
Can’t wait to get this weapon. I’m not gonna waste my money on it cause I have almost every upgrade for magic and I am saving for 120 Herblore but I am going to camp the Abyssal creatures for the whip and helm. I an mainly a magic and melee guy anyways. Can’t wait this looks really good. Great vid Protoxx hope you are feeling better now!
Something i noticed is the blog where they gave us a preview of the abyssal slayer creatures and this weapon they said when an enemy dies with abyssal parasites on him the parasites will jump onto new enemies and should aggro those new enemies. Somehow in the game infecting new enemies doesnt seem to aggro them like said in the development blog though.
probably a good time to sell. right after the hype video comes out. 😉 But also yeah, it'd be a shame to have a new toy like that and not take it out to play. have fun with it.
How does this compare to using all the same bleed enhancers with a t92 masterwork spear? I'm not buying both, I don't have that kind of cash, but I want to pick one. Currently I had forgotten that the extra adren is per bleed so I will definitely try the mw spear with the helmet and abys armor spikes for twice the extra adrenaline. edit: My basic trials with just buying the helmet were very powerful since my spear rotation has me using the two bleed thresholds while waiting on berserk to be off CD, MUCH faster adren gain, so once these abyssal flesh buy this'll be a treat.
debating if i should sell my spear of annihilation and get this i just use the helm and spikes and thats great dps i wonder how much of a increase it would be i dont use melee much so maybe ill wait for the scourge to crash a bit more or has a stable price 🤔
I really don't like the weapon at high end melee, where it encourages you to switch a lot more then before while I was getting comfortable mostly camping Lengs in zerk and camping spear with Zuk sword spec off-zerk. I do wonder which is more damage though, having that extra double damage with hurricane every 20 sec and even more in zerk or just building the whip stacks with no cane. Also wonder how the whip compares to the spear when it comes to the afk boss methods like with Greg, Corp and Rathis
@@greycrimson3228 yes i got scourge as a drop 2nd day and went testing and sold it after testing as i typically don't melee anymore With greg i was using normal masterwork and not trimmed and was at 90%hp all the time (don't bother with the new armour spikes)
Melee seems pretty much worse in every scenario but I also melee everything as I haven’t had time to learn other styles. Got like 1000kc arch glacor hm and kerapac hm 😭
do you guys think this weapon would be good at solo nex? switching to scythe on blood phase of course.. I melee nex I know its not efficient but I do it anyway. please give your opinions! much appreciated 🙏
It could help, but since nex prays against melee its never recommended to do nex with anything else other than Ranged. If you're struggling with dps, bakriminel bolts (e) will help you more
@@ProtoxxGaming thank you for the reply. I dont really struggle with melee nex I average around 3 1/2 - 4 minute solo kills (I know that's not fast by any means) . I'm only doing melee bec I'm 120 ranged and magic so I'm just working on melee
Ive been using this whip in legacy for the past week to afk gwd1 bosses, it works with soulsplit so i can afk without having to switch my billion different action bars for afking
My crazy luck decided I needed to get one right away, and... I can confirm it is good. Completed an acheron mammoth task quite quickly with it. Hearing all this, it's making me want to try taking down rathis and see how much faster I can take her down with it. The only downside is that I don't have a good off-hand weapon. As in, I'm currently using the t70 defender with it. I need to invest in a drygore off-hand, but that would go through half my cash stack currently if I went with the cheapest one...
Whipping the necromancer before the bridge in ed3 with gflurry and killing it makes the spread go mental on the skeletons. Sometimes go back out the room and most are dead. And last few are at 50 stacks. Its a fun weapon but at quick kill bosses and phasing bosses it looses a lot of its potential. If it had an effect where it adds stacks for a long time (60 seconds) but only does the bleed based of hits it would of been nice. Just an idea since range has things like black arrows that last forever
@@byever1 Idk about any of that but it's just generally what happens when any rs youtuber posts about any item or ability. Everyone just jumps and tries to buy it so..
Oops. Hit dislike just to see if there was a dislike counter and then undid that and liked the video. I really did like it but it said "feedback shared with the creator".
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Thanks made a horrible purchase of this one at release, this video made it skyrocket to the point i didn't lose too much money. Can always count on Mr. Pox to have my back. Unsubscribed.
Still gonna get so many whiny players complaining about switchscape when they could just choose to camp one thing, like this whip, and only lose maybe 2-4% dpm by not doing crazy switchscape
If you think you're only losing out on 2-4% dpm by not switching for the Spear, ZGS, Lengs, and EZK, then you're just straight delusional. Every single one of those switches will give you, at absolute minimum, a 5-8% dps increase. Cumulatively you are missing out on an insane amount of dps if you're not using all the switches, which is the whole reason people are complaining. If it was actually as low as you think it is nobody would care and just happily camp their favorite set of weapons while the sweatiest save 5-10 seconds per kill with 300+ apm.
I had planned to finish this video like a week ago so sorry for it being a little "late".
Edit: The helmet + spikes (as someone commented) could still be useful for adrenaline gain.
Yeah, the helm alone is amazing enough. During a Zuk Sword spec or zgs(if using spear with zgs), you can easily get an overpower in before another Zerk and the spikes quite often extend Zuk Sword stacks to 5 as well. These are amazing endgame melee items for sure
A great follow up video to this to help people who are new to bossing, would be a "top 10 bosses to use the abyssal scourge at" :)
No 10 hours loot of each monster would be better
@@bluntedsage no, Shaun is correct.
@@ChrisGardnerYT no your wrong and he's wrong 10 hours loot only
@@bluntedsage 2005 wants its content back.
@@splitthesoulgaming7431 no you're wrong. We are the 10 hour loot cult and you will make more 10 hour loot videos
Thanks for taking the time to go over all this, gives a much clearer understanding what this is and what it means for melees effectiveness currently
Great breakdown. I don't do a lot of melee currently but this video makes me think I should get one bec- wait! Dammit, the merch master strikes again!
I bet he's made 30b doing video's like this
@@moseshenry1180 give me that 30b then, i'm poor :l
@@ProtoxxGaming hit me up next time your gonna make a video discussing your views on combat equipment and we can discuss an investment on it, and a split on the investment.
First I'm glad you're feeling better and thank you for all the content over the years! I love it cuz it brings back memories of the good ol days when the Abby whip was the best weapon in the game at one point
Spikes + helm is still a great passive increase in adren if you prefer camping tms for bleeds and even more adren.
I just picked up the whip (and helmet) last night so this video couldn't have come out at a better time!
Thanks for sharing bud. I've done 2k Lords on task after 4 dry hours of Nex, so it was nice to watch someone else have fun for a bit lmao. I might give it a go for shits n giggles.
Honestly they should have allowed us to combine this with the dark shard of leng. The fact that they wanted to reduce switchscape and then they added another switch… also you have to switch to leng if you want to hurricane and destroy in berserk rotation
I've just been swapping to the leng for hurricane and then back to the whip for destroy, seems ok
That's seems fine, but there so much other switchs specially for melee, 2h swap for cleave, spear for bleeds, zaros gods word for the special, zuk 2h, the new whip, dragon battle axe and the dual so that's almost half of inventory of switchs if we add rings and other stuff
@@justsurfing1118 Yep switchscape it's just boring and hard to keep up for most of the players that cant invest that much time on the game.
Another good budget off-hand alternative is t85 dark ice sliver. It is cheaper than drygore, is actually t88 damage and off-hand accuracy does not matter when using abilities. Plus it has a passive which allows you to use hurricane, which is great for slayer and bossing.
isn't the passive to use hurricane only in combination with the mainhand weapon?
@@MrSukrasch nah mainhand makes it where they dont share same cooldown but u can hurricane or destroy if using the offhand. Not both
Protox: oh boy, here I go merching again :))
Ahaha! I love that TzKal-Zuk cape flex. This is a great ELI5 explanation :)
If they simply increase the time before stack falloff to average the time it takes kerapac to phase, maybe 12-15 seconds, it's functionality would be much better.
I'm very new to melee as someone who primarily uses range and mage, however I recently bought the t92 with an offhand khopesh and it has been amazing at every boss. I've been streaking glacor higher than I could with ranged, I cleared ed3, and tried at a couple others. I'd recommend helwyr, that ones fun. I am hoping that losing stacks at something like glacor is an unintended bug. I know for me using bladed dive during like ice pillars helps me keep stacks up. The helmet and spikes as well are amazing for learning ez zerk rotations. Especially with inspiration aura. You typically have more adren than you know what to do with
I thought about buying 30 scourges and helms in anticipation of this video (as I'm sure protexx did before uploading)
I just had a drop doubled so gonna wait for the spike before I sell ;)
@@moop3788 within hours of the video release it usually hypes and spikes, then goes back to what it was within a few days. So I'd sell it now if I were you
@@moseshenry1180 they're in the g.e
But the best thing about the big whip is the fact that it is a relatively inexpensive tier 92 melee weapon.
What's the current price?
Think its about the same as the t92 mh khopesh, bought mine for 120m
@@korpijeesus thank you!
just bought mine at 208m
Can’t wait to get this weapon. I’m not gonna waste my money on it cause I have almost every upgrade for magic and I am saving for 120 Herblore but I am going to camp the Abyssal creatures for the whip and helm. I an mainly a magic and melee guy anyways. Can’t wait this looks really good. Great vid Protoxx hope you are feeling better now!
How much gp would It cost you to get to 120 herb?
@@CheekyBooty Almost 2 bil on a dxp. Im at 102 rn. If not on dxp it is like 3.1 bil…. Ya it sucks.
Mmm it's not too bad actually. Set all your daily challenges to her lore and extend them everyday and use any lamps you get from herblore
@@CheekyBooty I love that idea. I am doing all challenges on Dungeoneering rn. I got 115 and once that is 120 Imma switch it.
@@bloodchron1880 Sweet! For me from 115 to 120 herb I did all those challenges and put all lamps into herb and got 120 in no time
Something i noticed is the blog where they gave us a preview of the abyssal slayer creatures and this weapon they said when an enemy dies with abyssal parasites on him the parasites will jump onto new enemies and should aggro those new enemies.
Somehow in the game infecting new enemies doesnt seem to aggro them like said in the development blog though.
they said on release it was a mistake it was added to the blog and that it works as intended.
what’s a good ability bar rotation for the abyssal whip and dark ice silver, with the jaws of the abyss?
This weapon definitely helps new PVmer a great deal and it’s not super expensive
Would love to see a full video on where to best use it !
I got the the whip and helm as drops first week of release. Suppose I should use them now.
probably a good time to sell. right after the hype video comes out. 😉 But also yeah, it'd be a shame to have a new toy like that and not take it out to play. have fun with it.
@@knowledgeispower9202 nah I am going to take the perks from my Leng sword and play with it while I finish the slayer codex. It looks fun
@@billherrera6386 oof. that reminds me. I need to finish that too. 0_o. gl on completing it.
o so this is why my scourge sell offer finally sold today
How does this compare to using all the same bleed enhancers with a t92 masterwork spear? I'm not buying both, I don't have that kind of cash, but I want to pick one.
Currently I had forgotten that the extra adren is per bleed so I will definitely try the mw spear with the helmet and abys armor spikes for twice the extra adrenaline.
edit: My basic trials with just buying the helmet were very powerful since my spear rotation has me using the two bleed thresholds while waiting on berserk to be off CD, MUCH faster adren gain, so once these abyssal flesh buy this'll be a treat.
Thanks my dude time to merch all those scourges i bought for 160m
debating if i should sell my spear of annihilation and get this i just use the helm and spikes and thats great dps i wonder how much of a increase it would be i dont use melee much so maybe ill wait for the scourge to crash a bit more or has a stable price 🤔
3:49 Sick dormant legs drop. cash moneyyyyyyy.
Hahahah :( no lance
@@ProtoxxGaming Hopefully they do something with the dormant anima armor pieces. At least make them give some good components.
How did you get it dangling as in the beginning of youre video, i see pple have it without retro pack and cant se to find how! @protoxx
U have to be in legacy combat mode sadly ;(
didnt even mation how it works in group bosses. does it stack with others, or is it 1 stack counter per player
good thing i got this 1 day ago before protoxx inflates price >_
no one can make items price inflate L
Okay but how does it hold up against T95 dw?
Trying to find a conclusive answer to that dps-wise (ignore accuracy for context).
I’m trying to decide if I should use offhand Drygore or offhand khopesh since I can’t afford the dark ice shard. Suggestions?
khopeshes are a waste. Just use a drygore :P
@@ProtoxxGaming thank you for the advice
Is this wep better than a noxious scythe??
I really don't like the weapon at high end melee, where it encourages you to switch a lot more then before while I was getting comfortable mostly camping Lengs in zerk and camping spear with Zuk sword spec off-zerk. I do wonder which is more damage though, having that extra double damage with hurricane every 20 sec and even more in zerk or just building the whip stacks with no cane. Also wonder how the whip compares to the spear when it comes to the afk boss methods like with Greg, Corp and Rathis
Better at rathis and greg but shit at corp.
At greg, scourge and defender combo and you literally never look at the screen except to loot
@@Lee___H You tested both weapons? Interesting
@@greycrimson3228 yes i got scourge as a drop 2nd day and went testing and sold it after testing as i typically don't melee anymore
With greg i was using normal masterwork and not trimmed and was at 90%hp all the time (don't bother with the new armour spikes)
@@Lee___H Was it faster then spear tho?
@@greycrimson3228 49 seconds was fastest with whip, cant remember if i was berserking but i doubt i would have used it for afking greg
How is this against nex, would i just die if she protects melle?
Melee not ideal for arch-galcor and ambi easier with mage/range? Maybe im just different because i find melee much easier at those bosses.
Melee seems pretty much worse in every scenario but I also melee everything as I haven’t had time to learn other styles. Got like 1000kc arch glacor hm and kerapac hm 😭
Has anybody tested if the lunging perk works on the passive ? 🤔
would gloves of passage be better? since they increse bleed damage by 20%
Good choice if the boss isnt poisonable
@@ProtoxxGaming thank you :)
Thanks god i bought these earlier this week xD
do you guys think this weapon would be good at solo nex? switching to scythe on blood phase of course.. I melee nex I know its not efficient but I do it anyway. please give your opinions! much appreciated 🙏
It could help, but since nex prays against melee its never recommended to do nex with anything else other than Ranged. If you're struggling with dps, bakriminel bolts (e) will help you more
@@ProtoxxGaming thank you for the reply. I dont really struggle with melee nex I average around 3 1/2 - 4 minute solo kills (I know that's not fast by any means) . I'm only doing melee bec I'm 120 ranged and magic so I'm just working on melee
Whats better ?Khopesh or abyssal source as mainhand?
Sick ty for info
Why isn't the whips attack range the same the scythe?
Scythes/lances have +1 range
@@ProtoxxGaming I mean a whip irl would have a further range than a short sword js.
A positive video made by protox? Are we living in 2019 again?
is this better than masterwork spear of annihilation?
That's what I want to know
Ive been using this whip in legacy for the past week to afk gwd1 bosses, it works with soulsplit so i can afk without having to switch my billion different action bars for afking
Are kills fast? Interesting pick for a AFK weapon
@@ProtoxxGaming 20-30 sec on zilyana almost completed the log with the whip just need pet and then ill try out graardor
Best offhand with this protoxx?
T95 leng blade of course haha
Thank you for always replying 🙂
My crazy luck decided I needed to get one right away, and... I can confirm it is good. Completed an acheron mammoth task quite quickly with it. Hearing all this, it's making me want to try taking down rathis and see how much faster I can take her down with it. The only downside is that I don't have a good off-hand weapon. As in, I'm currently using the t70 defender with it. I need to invest in a drygore off-hand, but that would go through half my cash stack currently if I went with the cheapest one...
Just get an offhand drug-related. If yiur really feeling cheap get offhand ripper claws
This this cancel out lengs now then?
Lengs are a switch now
@@ProtoxxGaming sad :(
quickly buy one and wait for the prices to rise..
That thing is broken.. my kill time from viddy went from 1:15 average to 47 avg with personal best of 42!
Rotation to get 50Stacks Takes me on vindicta 20-25s Killtimes no switches 39.8s best rn on mobile
I dont know how u didnt get those 50 stacks
Whipping the necromancer before the bridge in ed3 with gflurry and killing it makes the spread go mental on the skeletons. Sometimes go back out the room and most are dead. And last few are at 50 stacks.
Its a fun weapon but at quick kill bosses and phasing bosses it looses a lot of its potential.
If it had an effect where it adds stacks for a long time (60 seconds) but only does the bleed based of hits it would of been nice. Just an idea since range has things like black arrows that last forever
why does it swing around like that constantly its so annoying to look at lol
Legacy combat mode stance
Glad I'm not a developer, would drive me mad to develop items for them to be pronounced wrong 🤯
bro like htf u hitting 10k after 10k then 15k and steadyly hittin 8ks 7k ????? love ur vids keep up the good work always helpfull
Berserk + Greater Barge bleed :p
Dang it the price is gona go up now😐😐
Hopefully. It's been going down pretty steeply and I like camping the new abyssal creatures.
@@byever1 Idk about any of that but it's just generally what happens when any rs youtuber posts about any item or ability. Everyone just jumps and tries to buy it so..
@@imjustwolf I'm still a couple levels below 115 :///
@@guitarboy0211 it goes by pretty quick with the right preferred tasks.
Switch scape? Yall forgot we came up in legacy combat dont forget how much eoc buffed combats already
I ain't getting merch this time I bought a few of this items before event ended.
I kind of want one but idk lol
Are you dutch? You can really tell by the accent haha
Yep :)
Here comes it being nerfed
nah :p
whoever is reading this, i love you
not bad for a 150m investment 😂🤣 now people gonna realize its better then they first thought
I paid more on release but I don't mind. It's good to own
@@ProtoxxGaming indeed woulda happily paid double
Oops. Hit dislike just to see if there was a dislike counter and then undid that and liked the video. I really did like it but it said "feedback shared with the creator".
Haha don't worry about that! The dislike button "shares feedback" with me if I check the analytics of the video, it doesn't notify me like comments do. (It would simply show the amount of dislikes vs likes)
No worries!
Hello !Protoxx
hey there :)
Thanks made a horrible purchase of this one at release, this video made it skyrocket to the point i didn't lose too much money. Can always count on Mr. Pox to have my back. Unsubscribed.
Nice.
Mhm
i melee everything, nex, araxor whatever's possible. Screw range and mage
Most things are doable I’ve just picked up hm kerapac solos and solak duo. Not tried telos or zuk yet
Still gonna get so many whiny players complaining about switchscape when they could just choose to camp one thing, like this whip, and only lose maybe 2-4% dpm by not doing crazy switchscape
If anything this whip rewards you for camping it. (sure you can switch and everything) but just camping it will do very well
If you think you're only losing out on 2-4% dpm by not switching for the Spear, ZGS, Lengs, and EZK, then you're just straight delusional. Every single one of those switches will give you, at absolute minimum, a 5-8% dps increase. Cumulatively you are missing out on an insane amount of dps if you're not using all the switches, which is the whole reason people are complaining. If it was actually as low as you think it is nobody would care and just happily camp their favorite set of weapons while the sweatiest save 5-10 seconds per kill with 300+ apm.
Great until it gets nerfed
Too bad the whip looks bad when you do eoc animations
It doesn't even dangle either. Shame :(
More like if you like melee here another switch 🤦🏻♂️ add that to the other 4/5