Really enjoyed all the extra info at the start, it's really helpful to learn more about how to pilot a deck that you show off. What I would say is I'd like to see more losses from time to time. It makes the decks more realistic and it's a part of learning the weaknesses of the decks as well.
Unsure if you read your comments but... Damn dude. You're upping the production of these vids. I usually skip the opening explanations, but not this time. Props to ya
21:15 I honestly can’t comprehend what you’re doing here. You have the card advantage and every card your opponent draws is another chance for them to get an out. Passing doesn’t *do* anything because the one on a clock is you, and you have nothing you can react with if they play their GP. Worse, you have an extremely easy way toward lethal in hand with just… playing Leidros #2? There’s really nothing that punishes that play, because if they drop their GP you attack with both your Leidros (Leidris? Leidrii?), which forces a GP+dreadway block, and you can even attack with your other units to drop your opponent at 1hp and make them die to a Leidros drop next turn (or in 2 turns from now even if they somehow stay at 2hp, which is an attacking turn for you so it’s just as good). You have all the answers in hand with grasp + ruination, so no matter what they do afterward you’ll still be in an excellent shape. With waiting… well, we’ve seen what happens in the game and how low hp you dropped.
Thank you! As a character, kindred are one of my favorite riot have ever made. My first deck was a kindred/Lucian deck that I quickly changed to kindred and Ashe. I still want them to be good, but it's hard in an aggro meta, which we will always have.
you are my new favorite UA-camr now thanks to this deck. I think I've played Poppy/Zed about 8-10 times so far on the ladder, and have won literally every single match. It's bad against Deep and Darkness from my experience, but at least I don't lost to PZ anymore :)
I follow your videos for quite some time now, but jeez, great intro ! Best one so far, that was really interesting, and even if it's longer than other intros, it's really usefull. Thanks for the hard work :D
I expected a regular LoR video with just gameplay maybe a brief explanation of the deck, but the intro was so well done and edited I am definitely subing. 👍
Man, that deck guide was really awesome! So happy to see you grow bigger and better! Also, #justiceforkindred ! Buff her already, Riot! What are you doing?! 😭
i thought kindred was put in a closet never to be used again after bandle city release. awesome to see kindred deck being able to face zed poppy rally deck waw. or maybe you are just a great LoR player. nice video
That's a very intresting deck tbh, shame we didn't get to see much of Kindred in this vid but I'm still glad we got to showcase some of her power during your match against Poppy. Another thing you didn't mention is that Senna is just a better Kindred, Senna not only has the same stats/cost/keyword as Kindred but she also has the ability to protect herself via her effect and the fact she generates you a damage card during her summon and attack, sure Senna's lvl up is just a discount tool but she is far better than Kindred in terms of slays as well. I think another thing to add on on what you mentioned is that Kindred's lvl up isn't really worth the amount of work you have to put to lvl her up, I think if she would be a 4 cost card and her leveled up form would have either fearsome or overwhelm then I see her being sompetitive.
I was scared to follow LoR youtubers because I would start copying their decks instead of using my creativity to build my own ones, but man, I enjoy your videos a lot. Keep it up!
hey sunny, i wonder what is your rank? you play so smart and can predict what is gonna happen like a master, but i saw your rank on mobalytics somewhat like platinum.
hey, I usually make the climb to master but this season I've been a little busier than usual so a mix of that and playing meme decks means I haven't really been climbing at all, I've just been enjoying the game in my own way and climbing isn't always the best way to do that for me :)
@@Snnuy me too, man. i rarely play rank mode. my deck list i full of your meme deck lol. but it is just too hard for me to win using that.. well, as you say, we got so much fun with these meme deck. a lot. thanks my man!
Hey Snnuy do you love landmark decks? I could share with you the best landmark deck (maybe besides thralls, but is actually better than it). This deck is grand
I was trying to make officer squad work in my Caitlyn deck because of the theme...but he's just bad for that. If it was at least a smaller cost then 5, it would be fantastic with her, but yeah. I couldn't get him to work. Actually I think Caitlyn needs a...archtype buff? She's fine herself, she just needs more cards that generate flash bombs :P
@@user-hk2hq8gu2l yeah, i dont understand the point of him being a 4/5. He created a card, ofc. But that card is only good for an archetype (you could use it on yourself to refill, but i wouldn't say that's the best way to refill your hand) He had no play effect, or any aura effect. You could even compare it to the hearthguard, 5 cost 5/5 and buff your deck by +1/+1. Its not a 5/6, but at least its a good 5 drop to play.
Hahaha. I wish. That's all Sunny. I did originally write Demacian Sentinel tho. Never really understood why they changed it and didn't put out any announcements about it
The reason why they changed demacian sentinels name to burgeoning is because the card isnt a demacian card, not even multi region so people could get confused
In some matchups Vi doesn't have amazing challenger targets. Lurkers and dragons especially are bad for Vi. Kindred is like half of a Vi where you get a similar removal power and get around giving up a unit. In the end, it's a meta choice whether Kindred is played over 3rd Vi.
kindred need challenger, or buff 4/5 and fearsome seems fine. rip kindred. since minimorph was a annoying thing and counter the awesome built taric perma unyielding ,think the best answer for kindred to win just atrocity. sad . i tried to make her playable with aphelios. but mana 6 she just fked with minimorph/hush before she seen / slay something
It definitely took me more than a few games to get the hand of it. Using removal as removal often isn't enough, it's better to use it when you can proc multiple effects with it. (Kindred, sentinels, even powering up vi!)
To be fair you can replace Kindred with any two cards/ champs and you wouldn't notice a difference. This is like an old they who endure deck but with PnZ instead of Freljord. Kindred is really not essential for it.
Credit for the original idea and decklist goes to Scathus!
Can you play kindred and pyke??? please
Really enjoyed all the extra info at the start, it's really helpful to learn more about how to pilot a deck that you show off. What I would say is I'd like to see more losses from time to time. It makes the decks more realistic and it's a part of learning the weaknesses of the decks as well.
Really love the production value of the deck intro. Kudos to your editing and your creative team for it writing.
Very happy to hear you enjoyed it!
Unsure if you read your comments but... Damn dude. You're upping the production of these vids. I usually skip the opening explanations, but not this time. Props to ya
I read every comment but don't always get to reply to every single one of them. Thank you for the comment and I'm happy you enjoyed the intro!
@@Snnuy good to know! That'll definitely up my and others comment engagement. Keep it up buddy
21:15 I honestly can’t comprehend what you’re doing here. You have the card advantage and every card your opponent draws is another chance for them to get an out. Passing doesn’t *do* anything because the one on a clock is you, and you have nothing you can react with if they play their GP. Worse, you have an extremely easy way toward lethal in hand with just… playing Leidros #2? There’s really nothing that punishes that play, because if they drop their GP you attack with both your Leidros (Leidris? Leidrii?), which forces a GP+dreadway block, and you can even attack with your other units to drop your opponent at 1hp and make them die to a Leidros drop next turn (or in 2 turns from now even if they somehow stay at 2hp, which is an attacking turn for you so it’s just as good). You have all the answers in hand with grasp + ruination, so no matter what they do afterward you’ll still be in an excellent shape.
With waiting… well, we’ve seen what happens in the game and how low hp you dropped.
Absolutely incredible intro, big props to geist and your delivery
Awesome video production in this one. And finally we can see our (boy and girl) kindred in the competitive !
Thank you! As a character, kindred are one of my favorite riot have ever made. My first deck was a kindred/Lucian deck that I quickly changed to kindred and Ashe. I still want them to be good, but it's hard in an aggro meta, which we will always have.
The best intro deck I've ever seen
The joy of beating Rally decks at Game 1
Loved this new format with a more explained intro !! great job
this intro was awesome!
Production value skyrocketing right now damn! Hope to see more guides like this, the idea of working with more people to do this is great!
I love the introduction section talking about the champ itself and its problems
man, i love how you explain every detail of the deck, i wish you could do this in every deck you Uoad but i know it will cost time
You put a lot of effort in your recent video Sunny. Love your vids
6:50 thanks a ton man for some Kindred love, I have been playing them with Nasus last season... (I have lvl 3 on them)
I’ve always run a kindred ash deck
YYOOOOOUU The edition of this waas sooo clean nice job everyone
this puts your video quality on a new level, love it!
you are my new favorite UA-camr now thanks to this deck. I think I've played Poppy/Zed about 8-10 times so far on the ladder, and have won literally every single match. It's bad against Deep and Darkness from my experience, but at least I don't lost to PZ anymore :)
I follow your videos for quite some time now, but jeez, great intro ! Best one so far, that was really interesting, and even if it's longer than other intros, it's really usefull. Thanks for the hard work :D
Really happy to hear you enjoyed it! Thank for you for the support
I love how much work went into this. Well done
I expected a regular LoR video with just gameplay maybe a brief explanation of the deck, but the intro was so well done and edited I am definitely subing. 👍
I loved your reaction to the first game. You can tell the delicacies of control highrolls are hitting your taste buds ^.^
Very clean guide of the deck, nice work!
The intro it's REALLY awesome!!!! congratulations and keep the good work
Man, that deck guide was really awesome! So happy to see you grow bigger and better!
Also, #justiceforkindred ! Buff her already, Riot! What are you doing?! 😭
love the intro man bravo!
This video is what i looking for anddddd i love it
Love the amazing work put into the intro
what a master piece
The intro of the video looks like a professional proyect, so good
What a control deck, such bold meta call
This video is a masterpiece! Awsome
Really love this new guide format. Keep up the good work
Loved the guide. Looking forward to more videos!
I actually play pretty similar lists to this, it's awesome and fun. It feels like a good marriage of decent units and control
i thought kindred was put in a closet never to be used again after bandle city release. awesome to see kindred deck being able to face zed poppy rally deck waw. or maybe you are just a great LoR player. nice video
Amazing production and, most importantly, a great guide!
That's a very intresting deck tbh, shame we didn't get to see much of Kindred in this vid but I'm still glad we got to showcase some of her power during your match against Poppy.
Another thing you didn't mention is that Senna is just a better Kindred, Senna not only has the same stats/cost/keyword as Kindred but she also has the ability to protect herself via her effect and the fact she generates you a damage card during her summon and attack, sure Senna's lvl up is just a discount tool but she is far better than Kindred in terms of slays as well.
I think another thing to add on on what you mentioned is that Kindred's lvl up isn't really worth the amount of work you have to put to lvl her up, I think if she would be a 4 cost card and her leveled up form would have either fearsome or overwhelm then I see her being sompetitive.
Loved the guide at the beginning!
I player a similar deck when Kindred had came out, but it was with Noxus spiders and removal, it was really cool.
I was scared to follow LoR youtubers because I would start copying their decks instead of using my creativity to build my own ones, but man, I enjoy your videos a lot. Keep it up!
Love the guide and intro ✌🏽❤️
I still dont know how to play LoR but seeing this guy is awesome he does things and win
Appreciate the intro, thanks Snnuy! Was wondering if you could do a similar video for Targon control (with celestials etc). Thanks!!
Honestly would love to see more of this deck.
i like this idea especially the Officer Squad! very underrated card
wtf dude you are making trailers? looks solid, keep up the good work
hey sunny, i wonder what is your rank? you play so smart and can predict what is gonna happen like a master, but i saw your rank on mobalytics somewhat like platinum.
watch at 13:25
hey, I usually make the climb to master but this season I've been a little busier than usual so a mix of that and playing meme decks means I haven't really been climbing at all, I've just been enjoying the game in my own way and climbing isn't always the best way to do that for me :)
@@Snnuy me too, man. i rarely play rank mode. my deck list i full of your meme deck lol. but it is just too hard for me to win using that.. well, as you say, we got so much fun with these meme deck. a lot. thanks my man!
Okay, this is epic.
I really love shadow isle control. This great. This deck is incredible. Elise like a follower than ledros. PnZ x SI delete all enemies champ
i like guide section it's really helpful
Hey Snnuy do you love landmark decks? I could share with you the best landmark deck (maybe besides thralls, but is actually better than it). This deck is grand
I just qualified for the Between World's Tournament at the Gauntlet im excited
Really like these types of videos
Nut.
Absolute nut.
It is more likely that Sunny would play meta decks them to Kindred be competitive
Looking at the Box spell,it reminds me of Passage unearthed.
I mean the spell itself could counter Jarvan,Harrowing,Thresh Asol decks,etc
Passage unearthed is a good counter for feel the Rush or the shark of chariots... The box is more flexible because also damages played units.
Also insane into the new jayce decks , there alot of 6 cost spells that summon units
I was trying to make officer squad work in my Caitlyn deck because of the theme...but he's just bad for that. If it was at least a smaller cost then 5, it would be fantastic with her, but yeah. I couldn't get him to work. Actually I think Caitlyn needs a...archtype buff? She's fine herself, she just needs more cards that generate flash bombs :P
Also I would like her and the sting officer to plant 3 bombs and justice to cost 3 so that the archetype can became the focus instead of a support
Maybe it would be better if its 5/5? Idk, a 5 cost 4/5 seems awkward af. Just round it up!
@@foxinabox5103 expecially if you compare him to Rahvun, 5/6 with play effect AND ongoing archetype effect
@@user-hk2hq8gu2l yeah, i dont understand the point of him being a 4/5. He created a card, ofc. But that card is only good for an archetype (you could use it on yourself to refill, but i wouldn't say that's the best way to refill your hand)
He had no play effect, or any aura effect. You could even compare it to the hearthguard, 5 cost 5/5 and buff your deck by +1/+1. Its not a 5/6, but at least its a good 5 drop to play.
5:39 why the duck you didn't while feasted your own spider ti save Buhru Sentinels
“How did you Kindred good in a deck?”
“That’s the neat thing; you don’t”
Where is the game where you conceded after winning :(
1:25 Did Geist also script this part?
Hahaha. I wish. That's all Sunny. I did originally write Demacian Sentinel tho. Never really understood why they changed it and didn't put out any announcements about it
Do you consider this version to be better than the jayce version?
The reason why they changed demacian sentinels name to burgeoning is because the card isnt a demacian card, not even multi region so people could get confused
You say keep : aloof , box but they are not in the decklist? Love youre vid by the way cool deck
I love this deck. I always win against aggro and sometimes against darkness, sion, sejuani
I played this deck one week ago
Why play Vi over a 3rd Kindred? Still cool to see them in action
In some matchups Vi doesn't have amazing challenger targets. Lurkers and dragons especially are bad for Vi. Kindred is like half of a Vi where you get a similar removal power and get around giving up a unit. In the end, it's a meta choice whether Kindred is played over 3rd Vi.
Can kindred mark kill the unit with "unyielding spirit“？
What's funny is you can actually cut kindred out and it would be a much better deck. Good job tho.
subbed for 9:55 lol
kindred need challenger, or buff 4/5 and fearsome seems fine. rip kindred. since minimorph was a annoying thing and counter the awesome built taric perma unyielding ,think the best answer for kindred to win just atrocity. sad . i tried to make her playable with aphelios. but mana 6 she just fked with minimorph/hush before she seen / slay something
Lets just keep calling it Demacian Sentinel until Riot changes it back
Haha, Atrocity goes Brrrrrr
Great video, Sunny, but man, I can't beat anything with this deck. Might be a bit too big brain for me.
It definitely took me more than a few games to get the hand of it. Using removal as removal often isn't enough, it's better to use it when you can proc multiple effects with it. (Kindred, sentinels, even powering up vi!)
I heard kindred is getting a mana reduction from 5 to 4, its time to pick up this deck
Ur smile like not pure frm ur hearth
To be fair you can replace Kindred with any two cards/ champs and you wouldn't notice a difference. This is like an old they who endure deck but with PnZ instead of Freljord. Kindred is really not essential for it.
Wait a second
Kindred have a level up!?
That game 1 is very nsfw, how could u put on that on the video
👀
Now Kindred stats was nerfed , sure, its not much, but, it would made Kindred much easier to be killed by noxus decks
I didn't saw a Kindred gameplay. You only kill just 1 unit with it.
Nerf the pass button
-control players
40mins of gameplay but no Kindred lvl up lol
lies this was just a sentinel deck with a benched kindred
you are so cute :3
So you played a bad verson of jayce sentinels? Hum...