Your mistaken about some of your claims in this video. I have the big six and you absolutely do not have to only use the 4 stereo tracks as mono tracks. They record to two separate tracks or mono. So they share the EQ which you could knock it for, but they are definitely 8 tracks not four. I use my stereo tube pre and comp with them for rooms, overheads, Toms and plenty of other useful sources where the fact that they share an EQ is actually a plus. Realistically, most people own other pre amps and compressors they wanna use anyways. I absolutely love those channels for drums. I have a focusrite octo pre and 8 channel focusrite rack comp that pairs swimmingly with it. I also have an SSL2+ that I can use the mic pre's from and go out the alt 3/4 outputs and into the extra channels. I have already used the big six to record my full band using all 16 tracks at once and it sounded great. The drummer took 10 tracks, the guitar had one, the bass had one, we had lead and backup vocals on thier own tracks plus two room mics to capture the full sound. I agree for summing back in it's really not the greatest EQ section to use for mixing but they are definitely very helpful when tracking to give your tracks a bump of high end sheen, low end thump or warm up the mids. You don't really want to get to out of hand with EQ while tracking anyways. I do like summing out to hit my racks gear and go back in. I also like the fact that I can buss all my toms, vocals or guitars to a single rack comp or effects unit and then send them back in one stereo track for an Aux bus to blend in parallel to my mix. I have also found sending my master stereo track out to the fusion and then kissing it with the G-comp sounds really good. I would also like to point out that the listen mic compressor in the big six is really an accurate portrayal from the larger consoles. I A/B'd it with the plug-in and it sounds even better for crushing some snares, drum buss or whatever you would like and then blending it back in. Is the big six as good as a full format console, of course not. But it is a hell of a product! It does alot and is definitely worth more then it cost in my opinion. It's not designed to replace a full size console in a professional studio. It's designed to give your home studio a very solid solution for hybrid mixing and recording. I absolutely love having it at my house to record and sum to my rack gear with. There are really no other products in this price range that deliver this amount of versatility and quality for your home studio.
You're right, with the stereo channels i propably could have clarified this further, but there are still limitations to those stereo channels, like as you said they may share eqs, which is good for some things like maybe overheads, but maybe not ideal for other dual mic situations either. I like your work around idea though. Great option for your workflow. However my main argument here, youve unintentionally supported, in that you need a bunch of extra outboard gear to really get the most out of the big six. Great if You have that gear already, maybe not the best option for some people just starting out.
@@allIhaveISMusic1 No it doesn't. I've seen lots of these hateful comments made by people who don't own one. I can assume your just another bitter bedroom Artist that is mad at the gear for no reason. I was using a 6k setup from UAD before I got the SSL and it has way better headroom, monitoring and tracking control. The built in summing is fantastic and It is easier to use my outboard gear with this then any other interface I've tried. I've had a ton of them in the past 27 years. I actually got to try one for free and I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't outperform the setup I already had. Save your bitterness for somebody who wants to sulk with you. I don't have any brand bias. I don't care who makes something, it either delivers results or I get rid of it. I could care less who makes it. I've never owned an SSL console nor did I desire one. Having an interface with built in compression and EQ shaping on the way in with very easily accessible routing options for my outboard gear has been amazing. I don't care who likes it or who doesn't. The results speak for themselves and the big six is a fantastic sounding/ versatile piece of gear. If you don't like it, don't buy it but I find your quest to make others hate it a clear signal that your bitter for some reason. Maybe you can't afford it or you already bought some shit gear and then saw this and are now butthurt? Who knows, but your motivation to speak out against it just shows the troll in you is real 💯
@@diyrecordingstudio I think it was designed to work with your other gear. They could have easily added 8 more pre's and raised the price a couple hundred bucks. If you have no other pre's it is definitely not the interface for you but I actually like the 8 open channels. I've heard people bashing it for being too big and then complaining it doesn't have enough pre's yet the 16k API box only had four inputs and takes up half the room. Nobody seemed to bash it. I think it's all hype and clickbait. I like mine. I haven't talked to anyone who hates thiers. I've heard a ton of people say it's over priced yet it does more then 99% of other interfaces and I switched from my UAD Apollo rig with 16 inputs to this and noticed a giant leap in quality from monitoring/summing and insert capabilities. It especially shines when recording a whole band. Multiple headphones mixes, I/O and near zero latency. I hope somebody outdoes it soon. I'd love to have an even bigger one priced this affordably.
Well, I have the Big Six and it has a pristine sound. I was using the Apollo with other gear, but I have to say that the Big Six it's really what they claim to be, it really improved the sound of my productions by adding the detail needed in my tracks. Now I can really hear the percussion and the drums have more punch. I am mixing using 7 busses send to the different channels of the Big Six and it really added more definition, clarity and punch when going through the Big Six, something that I didn't have before with just the Apollo. The routing it's very smart and I really love it. For example, I route my instrument mix to a cue and the voices to a different cue this gives me the flexibility of adjusting the music track and voice to different levels getting the artist or myself the voice level needed to really hear your performance as you will when you are singing live and therefore you can sing with more confidence and with better pitch. Also, the cues can be used as a send and return to add parallel processing or to add effects to the channels. The EQ it's a very smart design and it really works. I been cutting as lot of plugins because the great sound it has and the buss compressor even when it does not have all the controls found in the G-Buss 500 rack for example, it glues all the tracks together as the 500 series does because the use the attack and release settings more used for the majority of engineers using the original version. As mentioned here, it's aimed for home studios that want to add the SSL analog Mojo to their productions but it certainly does a lot more than that if you take the time to read the manual as I did. My virtual instruments sound a lot better because the high mid and highs harshness of the digital sound have been rounded out by running it through the analog circuitry of the Big Six. In order to do this with any other gear will require at least twice the amount of money because just a studio level converter with 16 outs is over $2000 plus the summing mixer of your choice. It integrates nicely with Windows 10. I totally disagree with the comments at the end of the video, the only way to know is if you have one as I do. Also, the Big Six has insert points for the first four channels and the master buss to add more processing to your mix. I have the SSL fusion and the SSL Ultraviolet as an insert on my master buss and just this requires a lot of I/O if you are using a sound interface. This is the best solution for Hybrid home studios on a budget period!
Yeah so for you, like some other guys in the comment section, this is a great product, and it accomodates your outboard and workflow well. And that's great and i fully acknowledge that in this video. However, if you read through the comment section, there are also some would be buyers of this unit, that are unaware of some of the limitations this device has, as they don't have the same outboard, or are actually in need of more preamps etc.. So it might be the perfect solution for you, which is excellent, just not the answer for everybody.
They screwed up with the lack of external clocking and the limited EQs. I would rather pay an extra $1k for a midband parametric...I don’t need the high shelf. And an external clock and or ADAT alone would have made this thing epic.
So as someone who owns the original Six, I have to agree with what you've said (and I knew these caveats prior to purchase). From my experience, the Six gives you basic tools to get your recorded tracks to a more polished place that would normally require extra gear. The EQ curves shift when switched to bell, so they are much more versatile than I expected and quite smooth. That said, you can't use them for surgical EQing (even if they added a mid frequency to the Big Six) and I don't think that was ever the intention. As an example, for summing I have an RME interface card outputting via ADAT to a Cranborne 500 series and from there the individual outputs go to the Six for mix down. There is also hardware on the mix bus insert. Both units are great for home studio use, but expect to spend quite a bit more if you want to get the most out of them. The Big Six has an interface which does address some of the issues I had to get around as mentioned above, but I would expect it to have average latency. Due to this, it doesn't suit my needs. Both of these units are great for bringing a polished sound to a home studio and the value is definitely there considering what you get including a monitoring section. However, I think people need to plan well and set their expectations accordingly before purchasing.
Jesus, you realise that with a full g-comp and full e series EQs, this would cost 10k+. Nobody is mislead here. SSL six sounded fantastic, I'm sure this will too. This will be a big hit just like the Six was. You realise small mixers don't even have per channel compressors, yes maybe a sweepable mid with questionable quality. You can go the Allen Heath route and that's ok but this is pro audio here with tons of headroom and top quality components.
Totally agree with you. As i state in the video, there's a lot on offer in this console. Its potentially a great piece of gear. People just need to also understand the limitations as well.
These are not really limitations as ssl channel comps don't usually have attack for example and most users leave the g-comp on the same settings all the time. Watch the SSL engineer video explaining everything. They chose sensible defaults and that's what you can cram in this form factor and be able to hit the price point without compromising quality. Let's not pretend any budget mixer even the Tascams would stand up against SSL. You quickly realise that it's better to have some limitations with pro quality instead of 3 band eq on every channel that are brittle, hello Mackie. It's night and day.
@@intnrmri i disagree regarding the settings on a gbuss compressor, i would definitely use different settings for many different styles of music or for different dynamic response. However, once again, i think this is actually a really great console, potentially, but you have to be honest about what is can really do functionally, and what other gear you're going to have to combine with it, to make it work for a bunch of situations.
@@diyrecordingstudio i get that it's not completely honest to write "g-comp" on it, it should read "g-comp style", "e series eq style" as the underlying design is really very similar it just doesn't have all the controls. But it just doesn't fit. Well you can at least buy a full g comp for 2k and put it on the insert, but then again thats almost the price of this full mixer.
@@intnrmri @Jazz Crates yeah totally agree with you here. I really think for the price, there's a lot on offer, but if you check the comment section here, a lot of would be buyers think theyre would be getting 8 full preamp channels. I know it would be hard to fit much more in this unit, but i would rather have a more usuable mid band or something.
I'm just gonna list what I was hoping this video would contain: *How does it compare to a full size SSL console, in terms of sound (that's the impression your title gave me and is why I clicked on it) *Your personal opinion on how it sounds in general as compared to using console emulating plugins, etc. *More detailed analysis of its individual parts (in terms of sound), EQ, Channel dynamics, buss comp, summing, etc. and how it compares to similar plugins. *Cheery on top (as a fun comparison) would've been a sound comparison of it and something similar, like the Craneborn, Mackie, etc. I really wasn't expecting someone making a review of a product based off its specs from a website with no hands-on experience. Can you imagine if every UA-camr did this? It would be almost impossible and very time consuming sifting through endless uploads, trying to find one of an actual product review with examples. Just my .02 Cheers
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@@johnisrael5183 Your wouldn't actually need a SSL Bus Comp since it's already in the SIX mixer. So closer to $4000, well worth it if you ask me. I own a regular SIX mixer, SAND and various other SSL plugins. Plugins get close but still don't compare. But still useful to fill in gaps where the mixer can't, like additional EQ bands and frequency points for instance.
Im looking for a small desk with about 4 inputs as I record everything myself separately, I don't want an interface because I can't be bothered learning the software that comes with them. Sound quality is my primary interest here. Will this give me great sound quality?
I wasn't sold on the Big SiX at first. Then, recently I found myself looking at a $6K+ 500 series setup that would give me drum bus compression, mix bus compression and a stereo Pultec-style EQ for my mix bus. I've also been looking at channel strips lately, though that pursuit is far less urgent. Enter Big SiX....again. I think I'm gonna go for it now. Obviously, it takes care of the channel strip as I don't need a lot there beyond just a stellar pre and some light compression. I'll EQ individual channels ITB like a sane person. Add the Tegeler Audio EQP1 on the master bus insert and there's my mix bus sorted. I can send my drum bus through channels 3 and 4 to grab some compression and voila! Thousands saved! I'll probably never sum through it ('cause why?), and once I get my sound dialed in, I'll probably rarely ever move a knob or a fader, so no worries about recall. 🤷🏾♂️ From what you described in the video, you want API's The Box 2 with an interface. You're not gonna get that anywhere near this price point. It is what it is.
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I watched the video a bunch of times in a attempt to keep my GAS under control. It definitely helped: in the end I ordered the regular (not Big) Six...
@@diyrecordingstudio Thanks for your help!! The main purpose will be for having an all-analog headphone mix while I'm recording/overdubbing, so I don't have to use the DSP mixer in my Apogee. It will also be my studio monitor controller. And, I'm really looking forward to trying the bus compressor on various things including synth, drum bus, and full mix.
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cool video, i sold my B6 a month go and bought it right back just bc of the EQ's does something special to the sound! and i work with MPC so great for summing and easy workflow, only caveat is no adat or spdifs to run it to an ADC! I do have flock patch. apollo x8 and buncha outboard, but cant figure out how to connect B6 to all of that, so will use it just for basic mixing and run that mix back through mastering chain, which includes , Bus+, Fusion , Portico, & other eqs for fine tuning, & more processing ITB! Thanks agin cheers!
Hey there, you should check this article, www.production-expert.com/production-expert-1/2019/5/3/installing-and-configuring-the-new-flock-audio-patch-digitally-controlled-analogue-patch-bay You basically have all the right gear, you need to patch the I/O from your console and hardware all into your patchbay and then on your flock audio you can do some really cool stuff. If you want some help feel free to contact me on my email at mitch@thediyrecordingstudio.com
@@diyrecordingstudio Thanks for the info, article is helpful and appreciated!! Just wanted to add that i've also got a pulse 16 as well, since flock patch I/O s are fully loaded , was thinking about routing I/O s from B6 to pulse and then to flock and apollio x8 via Adat if that makes sense. I'll definitely need the help, and will email you , would be great Many thanks!
The main problem for me is the lack of direct outs (it has the same number of outputs as SSLSix) and no ADAT. Taking into account it the Big6 sums 18 channels and SSL6 sums 12 and that they removed the changing bell frequency it is no need to upgrade from my SSLSix for me. I would like to add that Super Analog is not just a preamp it is the whole construction topology of their gear.
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Thanks for your review of the BIG SIX! I see it a bit differently. The BIG SIX, finally I found my recording, mixing and summing desk! All in one! The greatest relief is getting rid of all the endless cables, patching. Just plug the USB in...that's it! No Total Mix etc...that's amazing, just routing inputs and outputs and your good to go! The EQ is great, but I sometimes use some plugins in addition, especially with the low end. Except a Drawmer 1973 I have no need for more external hardware at the moment. Another big point for me, the preamps, the headroom, the converters and the stereo imaging/summing! I often sum two times in a mixing process, the first time I sum vocals, guitars etc everything seperate in groups. Then I sum the groups...perfect workflow for me! I am very happy! Cons: it gets very hot and a comp on every channel would be great!
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I think its good for a secondary studio setup where you are doing overdubs and vocal/guitar tracking where you can send a stem mix into the mixer for monitoring to the artist. Off cause it is not for large projects but that is what the SSL Origin is made for. It's nice to have a small format quality mixer where 16 or 32 channels would be overkill. The "Eq problem" can be fixed by using the insert and a 500 series SSL EQ/Compressor or SSLs plugins (360). in the daw. The stereo channels are not made for recording but for sending stems from the daw into the mixer for summing. Yes you can record with them keyboards and other stereo line level signals.
So I am running a MacOS aggregate audio device with 3 x Focusrite Clarett interfaces and the Big Six (+ Six) …all at 96K…and this thing is stunning. I am summing 14 stereo busses at mixdown and the converters across this setup sound extremely good. I have not regretted buying the Big Six and continue to be surprised by different ways I can use it. Against that, still a bit wary of reliability issues (although I have had none yet).
I have 2 of them (thanks to the 6 pay at sweetwater, lol) Using Luna I can assign both easily for mixing and the sound is better than just the Apollo. I think SSL really killed it with the B6. I just wish they included inserts on the stereo channels and adat. As for the eq, it's not really meant for full mixing. I eq in the box with the UC1 and then sweeten it up a little with the B6. If you're on the fence, just get one. Your music will sound better.
Just remember who mixer this is aimed at. It’s aimed at serious weekend warriors and small home studio owners. For that, compared with everything else on the market, I think this gives a serious step up to that market. I can’t afford a really nice SSL setup, but I may be able to afford this.
Yeah it is great value, potentially, depending on what you use it for. My main gripe is the EQ section AND the fact that all the promo sold it as a one stop shop console, even though they showed promo vids with people using tens of thousands of $$$ of outboard gear with it.
@@diyrecordingstudio I'm a keyboardist and vocalist. I use some analogue keys and usually input them with a good DI into my front end. My vocal chain includes a seventh Circle Audio API clone, and a dbx compressor for light compression going in. In your opinion would this board replace all that in a meaningful way?
I dont think it could "replace it", no. The API preamp and compressor you're talking about are completely different preamps and compressors to what's in the SSL big SiX. All of these hardware pieces are just different tools for different jobs. Some preamps and compressors are great all rounders. some are great on drums, some are amazing on vocals or bass. The SSL compressor has it's own sound, as does the preamp. The question is, is that THE sound that is right for what you're doing?
Can I line out the Big Six to a Tascam Model 16 for that SSL quality and bypass the Tascam preamps? I mainly record and mix on my Model 16 and then finish everything in logic.
You could definitely use the line inputs on the Tascam model 16. I don’t know how much of an upgrade or improvement it would be though to your existing setup. What is it you’re trying to gain from the ssl console? Compression? You might be better adding singular outboard bits of gear if so.
It’s ok that the eq and compressor are limited any more surgery can be done in the box this is an amazing bunch of tools in a small form for a reasonable proce
its $3000 bro the XL desk was more than this with no EQs and no Compressors. This thing Has 6 compressors 3 different flavors. 4 channel compressor 1 Bus compressor 1 LMC 8 3 band EqQs It has 18 channel Audio interface
I have the original SIX. I would love to have this but it's not worth the extra money. These SIX consoles are better for analog summing of your busses once you have done all surgical mixing in the box. Send the busses out to the SIX and do minor level and EQ tweaking and G Buss compression to nicely glue everything together. The Fusion on the buss insert adds that extra SSL oomph too.
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@@johnisrael5183 Why are you so proud of this to have posted it twice? The spoiler is that you don't know what you're talking about. The FX 12 is fine for live use, but not for critical studio recording. You're making a fool of yourself.
It also has a USB connection where can be used directly in a studio with ProTools so you’re wrong again it’s actually made to use directly in the studio
The only fool here is you, Don’t knock a piece of gear just because you don’t know how to use it properly Mackie is one of the best affordable brands out there for musical gear
While researching this, I've stumbled across the Cranborne Audio 500R8 - I think this will be more flexible for me in the long run and and I can add modules and inserts on all channels. This plus a midi fader pack like the softube console one or UF8 will be the way to go!
@@MrlegendOr sounds exactly like what I had in mind!, I think I'll go with the softube console 1 first before upgrading to cranborne for analog mix. Think I would be missing the bus compression of the big six, but I can use the master insert point on the cranborne. What 500 tape modules are you using?
The 8-channel full feature is going to be 10k+. I have the six, and it's all I need for, and it's an ok front end and summing mixer. I have also fully connected it up with the D-sub and patch bays. I have to say i might have gone for the Big Six to avoid all the extras to make the Six work for me.
This product has a very specific use case. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the product, so many people are talking about it like it is something it isn’t
Yeah i think i cover that in this video. Its great for certain situations, but it isnt fully fledged ssl console that can do studio quality productions, without a bit more outboard or software in the box. Awesome bit of kit for the money if it works with your work flow, just wouldnt suit mine, personally.
I think the BiG SiX is indicative of the company's new direction under it's new mother company. The modern transistors they are able to source and use in their products are quiet and leaps and bounds ahead of what was available 10 years ago. The good news is they are also cheaper to manufacture. It's definitely a good thing to be able to produce this sort of quality for the intro tier consumers, much nicer than Mackie/Behringer/Yamaha mixer interfaces that came out a decade ago albeit more expensive, but more fully fledged features. I think it's worth checking out
A prism lyra 2 with just 2 Preamps and mastering grade as they say AD/DA converters is equal in price if not a bit more expensive than the SSL big Six. So if as a home studio owner who is not intending to record drums and prefers ot mix 100% in the box but just want console grade ability to track in and also mastering grade converters to mix and master. Will you consider the SSL Big Six a better deal than a Prism Lyra 2
Right tool for the right job man. You're describing two very different use cases. Dont get too caught up on converter quality. Get the tool that helps you do your job best, easiest, fastest.
Send the SSL mix back to two channels of your DAW armed to record and set to record the stereo output of the SSL. Just press play/record on your DAW and the tracks you want to mix will play to the SSL where you can mix them, and at the same time the result will be coming back to your DAW on the other 2 channels you have set up in your project.
Thanks sir. I was on the feance to buy one. your video was very helpful . Basicly what every home studio owner is looking for, is does this make my home studio sound like the pro studios.... and the BIG Six doesn't.
Yeah i think you need a lot of extra outboard to really get the most out of it. Which is unfortunate. There are some serious pros with it, but not for me. My current outboard setup cost nearly the same price and is a lot more usable and flexible.
Definitely for home studio. If I can leave everything plugged up, not have to rewire for mixing vs tracking, keep in mind you’re also going into daw. Where I do most eq and compression anyways. Where you mix. I I think it shines as a “get it right at the source” mixer piece. Just enoguh eq and compression to get a top notch sound. I think this is where it shines. I have warm audio preamp and comp just for tracking w mix. A grand and bought second hand. It’s nice to write and produce with daw running at same time and have everything going in having analog flavor 2”w/o having to patch everything 1 at a time through my 1 preamp and compressor. Changes the game in that’s since.
Hey Mitch - thanks for the video. I think you've provided a fair review of the Big Six - it certainly has some limitations but what it has at the price point is pretty good - as long as people are aware before buying which is the point you're making. So, when it comes to the "what do I buy at this price point" question for me, I can say (after watching this) that the smaller Six would be more suitable as I'll be routing it through a Focusrite Clarett system which already has 12 nice pres.
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@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert.... Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo..... $2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
I totally agree with you here. As i state in the video, there's heaps on offer in this new console and it's a really cool device. It just might not suit everyone's needs, and not everyone is aware that there's only 4 preamps here, even though that's kind of a great deal. I personally would rather go something like a cranbourne unit with adat, then some 500 series units, even the SiX units, I have nothing against them. But at least this way you can get more preamps AND have possible future expansion. If you have a bunch of gear aleady to accompany this unit, I think it's incredible, but some first time buyers aren't aware that this might not have ALL they need or want.
Very helpful. Was torn between a bunch of a different outboard gear and then got excited when I learned of the Big Six, but...I guess I'm back to where I started lol.
@@diyrecordingstudio Working on an album heavily inspired by NIN. I write using a mix of hardware and plugins but I'd be tracking vocals, hardware synth, guitar, and bass. Any suggestions for outboard?
Okay I agree against the technobabble pr stuff but overal it's a great kit of gear as there's little comment on the actual device more about the speak and what it can't do for things beyond it's design... that you have to work around the limitations.. well even with a full size studio every sessions throws you something where you have to find a work around.. I'm thinking about this for home, and 4 channels will do perfect for tracking Glyn Johns style drums and it's just a 16" bop kit. I'm just wondering about the longevity of this device.. will the digital section get finnicky and croak in a few years? will some of the analogue parts? would it be better to get a just a mixer and converter separate.. where either section can be replaced.
I totally agree with you. It can be a cool bit of studio gear, but you really need extra outboard to get the most out of it. Also, great point about having converters and console together, I'd assume they'd be fine, but what if support was stopped on Mac devices... which would probably happen at some stage down the track. that would REALLY be a pain.
@@diyrecordingstudio Oh wait? why would support be halted? As well I'm kinda thinking around this as a centrepiece, I only need a couple of mic pres for acoustic & overdub, and for the rest I can run in my analogue synths & drummachines and then insert the delays etc.. I feel it's going to be perfect.. and way more useful than just a converter with some mic pre's and monitor knob.. and I'm just about to buy a new mac mini as my last one is from 2012 and well for audio still great but nope it needs and update so keeping mac support for the next decade would by highly appreciated.
Great video! What mixer would you recommend over this one? (A better deal for the money per features is what I mean) Also, what is the best mixer in the $1,000 - $2,000 range currently?
I think it really all depends on what you want to record or mix. This is actually a decent mixer for the price, but if you're doing drums or recording live bands or something, this wont have enough mic pres on it's own, depending on what you're doing. So the real question is, what are you wanting to record, mix, or both, and what do you need from a console besides the price being around that $2000 mark or less?
@@diyrecordingstudio I thought about this as well after having posted the comment! I need around 7 inputs (it would be fine to have more, but that's just where I'm at right now), would prefer most of those if not all to have preamps, phantom power, and I don't have a preference between analog vs digital. I do a lot of guitar/bass recording (both cab miking and DI) and vocals, and have plans for miking up kits in the future. I'm looking for pristine quality before all other bells and whistles. I do live shows weekly, so that's where the onboard controls and features will come into use. Comp, EQ, those features would be nice for my shows, but I'm largely for fidelity over all else. That is how I came up with how much I'm willing to spend essentially! Haha. I am glad you posted this review, I hadn't seen any other reviews that pointed out the lacking features. Thanks for the quick response! If you could just point me into the direction of what boards you could recommend based on all of that, your favorites, etc, that would be incredible! I'm relatively new to the mixer world! The price I mentioned is just my budget, I could largely be overshooting and would be happy to buy a less expensive one!
@@ChaseMeNovember so yoi have a pretty interesting situation where you're trying to cover both live sound and studio recording. It might be a better solution for yourself especially with such a tight budget, to invest in a digital live mixing console that also allows for usb multitrack recording. That way you get your channel count and cover all your bases.
Any digital console by Yamaha, Allen and Heath, Midas/ Behringer, will get you there for live and have an interface for multitrack recording. The next thing you need to ask is, what do you want/what is most important, Super high quality recording with basic live mixing, or Good live mixing, with average/decent recording. For your budget, which in the scope of audio, is not a lot to spend, it's very tricky to cover all these bases. There will always be a compromise somewhere.
I love SSL and use and own some of their gear. If you really want to step up your game, the Rupert Neve Designs 5060 console will smoke this all day. It’s crazy the difference and sped up my workflow which is one of the biggest reasons I use analog. For the “modern” hybrid studio workflow, seriously check out the 5060. Happy mixing! 🤘🎛🤘
Sometimes you have to weigh out the pros and cons of each and save for what will give you the biggest difference in both sonics and workflow. Lots of folks impulse buy. Some may dig the SSL over the Neve. Like most anything else audio, you get what you pay for in most instances. Just throwing another option out there is all.
Besides all the bells and whistles "missing" maybe someone knows how would it compare to other similar mixer/interfaces such as the soundcraft mtk22 which has more channels and eq sweeps if im not mistaken. Looking to track synths mainly and to add a few external units such as delay/reverb. Never owned a desk and currently tracking my synths with a single UAD arrow which i love but its a hassle with only 1 stereo input as my synth collection is growing, soon have 8 pieces and more coming. Being able to go from daw back to a desk is nice as well.
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert.... Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo..... $2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
The breakaways to "fart" clips was amusing at the beginning, but then became tedious and then finally irritating. Much as I was interested in what you had to say, I gave up watching.
Hey Mitch, I agree with you, the most important part about the product is its user. I guess there are a lot of opportunities to use the six as startingpoint and or heart of some analog gear, with some easy bus mixing, aswell as professional monitoring on speakers and headphones (discrete hp mixes, mointor controll section). But if you want a real console the big six is a bad idea. But i guess 3k for 12 Channels analog plus the ext1, ext2 and summing in, and on top all of those quite well thought features, signales to me, its a modern centerpiece for hybrid productions. A little note on the g comp. I agree i dont like to print on every mix, but just dialing it in during the mix phase is awesome. U always get a slight compression, that is rather adaptive to its current signal. And again id like to mention that retailing price, of the original bus comp is arroung 3k as well. But the quintessence of the video is quite on point, good job :)
Yeah i think you hit on the same points i do in this video. Great bit of gear, especially for the price, but you definitely need a bit of extra gear to get the most out of it. A lot of potential here, if there's another one of these on the cards with some more inputs i would buy one.
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
I found the fact they brought out a big one as exciting then when looking at it I thought it gave a lot for the money but looking at what it gave it didn’t give me what I wanted from ssl… the eq is only a half give as it’s not the eq from the consoles and only added a mid range eq to the two band eq… so looking at it I thought it would be a summing console with some added processing already on it… but then it didn’t have much flexibility as most summing units, then it didn’t have proper bus functionality and seemed like it would be harder to route things even with outboard gear and I would be buying it to simply have more processing functionality than a summing mixer but then it would then be harder to actually set things up how I would want to to make analog mixing easier… so a less onboard processing but better routing like the heritage audio 32 channel summer would be way better even though it costs a lot more… the only use I see this for is having a bit of analog to travel with… but then again I would need too also bring other things… they dropped the ball, but in it see there a massive change to bring out something else if they doubled the price… ssl isn’t known for recording it’s known for mixing… simply make a mixing console with the processing the big ones offer in a smaller package… their small consoles with 500 series slots is a little better but then again the cost is 8 times more and drops the ball for that reason… I have been having hope they make a more extensive Fusion processor and if they made a mixer like I imagined combining the more extensive fusion would give you a full analog setup… it’s cool what they’ve made, but not at all iconic
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Love the review. All depends on perspective. Im looking at it as an interface, and summing mixer. that includes monitor control, talkback, etc. All with SSL quality. In that perspective, I see the 4 great mic preamps as a bonus. with inserts. I have other outboard and could easily track drums and more. I saw that if ur setting input levels with outboard gear then you can still use the stereo inputs as individual inputs for tracking line level, where i wouldnt be using th onboard effects anyway. I actually wouldnt use them much if at all. I would use the board for tracking up to 16 inputs is enough for me. I would use the usb routing to insert my outboard effects while mixing in the box. then i would use the usb routing for analog summing, no effects. use the bus comp and or the main bus insers to patch in hardware on the bus. back into the daw. to me that work flow would fit as u can tell, i kinda want one lol
Somebody will be skipping Big six to buy some crap out there good luck -SSL and RME dac pro No way you will be buying anything in 10 years ,I have 7 interfaces I am not guessing on a budget just buy ssl+ I have it too ,but RME would save you lots of cash
Yeah, well then I'm sure this console probably works great for your workflow. Theyre a great bit of gear, just not a 1 stop shop for tracking and mixing.
Potentially, depends how many channels you need with processing. The full channel eq of the ssl 500 series does way more than what is on this desk. For a cheaper option look into www.linkaudiodesign.de/ They do replicas of the SSL gear t an affordable price.
Currently hating it because of how you have to work to get sound from your DAW/itunes come through the interface without it going through channels 1 and 2. I have clicked every button, read the manual. I don't get it.
Standard Operating Procedure; use your premium A-range line to sell lower-range (cheaper) gear to the masses. @ $2500, don't think it's offered as a mixing panacea....just another tool. That said, sweepable Q should be in the next release.
I ended up getting a SoundCraft LX7II in almost new Condition......man....Im Starting to thing the Medium Sized SoundCraft Consoles are the Best on a Low Budget, Unliess you can afford a full SSL, Trident or API.......I would put my SoundCraft LX7II against...the Little Six, Big Six, Mackie, Tascam 24 or Mix Wizard any day of week...this thing is taking my Masters up to a new level Ive got 24 Clean Pres, Mixing Bay in Middle of the Board, Aux Sends and Returns, 4 Band British EQ on Each Channel and InBoard Headphone Tracking....you wont beat this unless you can go all the way up to a "High End Console"
Yeah that’s an interesting point 👍. I used to love mixing live shows on old analogue Midas and Allen and heath consoles. They were great. Also, dedicated analogue auxes for artists in tracking beats digital headphone mixes any day of the week.
All valide points. I already had the SSL G-Comp and 2 500 SSL E-Eqs as a lot of 500 pres -so the Big Six was perfect for me. Miss inserts for the stereo channels though. Otherwise it made my life easier and more fun.😊
Hahaha, nahh, but it's also a cool product, just doesn't suit my needs either. I'm not dissin SSL here, the six and big six are cool. I actually really like their 500 series six units too. But yeah, hope you're enjoying the six!
Not a review, just an opinion. If you watch the video you would see that I actually think there's some real positives to this unit, it's just not for everybody. If you read some of the comments, some consumers are actually unaware of the limitations of this SSL product, thinking there was actually more on offer here like more channel preamps etc. Sometimes people are need better info on a product than just the spin from a company's website or their brand ambassadors.
This system is for people that will never be able to get near or use a fully kitted out ssl desk. Off course it’s not as good but still a huge step up for most. It’s entry level to the ssl world that is unattainable to joe blogs. Believe you are aware of this and do appreciate you cutting through some of the hype and offering your opinion.
Thanks for the measured and rational reply. I actually think it’s a cool, interesting piece of gear. It’s just tricky to have it as a centrepiece, without lots of additional outboard hardware.
@@diyrecordingstudio well you managed to voice your gripes without sounding like a gear snob, that’s no easy task. I’m running a slightly smaller operation (bedroom studio) than you so it seems perfect for my needs. I’ve been waiting for a mixer interface like this for years, I come from the world of 8track (cassette machines) and have always hated the idea of moving faders with a mouse. I know theres midi controllers that could get me that hands on feel. But this seems so much more simple. I have just bought a stereo pair of the warm audio wa -eqp so reckon it would pair nice with that. What other outboard do you think I may need?
helped a lot! now i will definitely spare money and go for a used re capped studer 961 /962 plus apogee, ...more expensive but better sounding combo. for preproduction at home
@@diyrecordingstudio For Behringer quite good for that money (same faders as x32). .For Logic out of the box, Cubase (Nuendo) also mostly but buttons have some different functions. Protools forget it (HUI). So Mackie protocol good and first time i found a controller helpful. Might add a SSL UC1 in the middle and it forms a nice cheap little transportable studio along with a decent interface. Runs with PC and Mac m1. Best combined with NI Komplete Kontrol Keyboard running KK as VST within your DAW. Then i use the keyboard for tweaking VST Synths and X-Touch for running the DAW. Will do a video on that workflow. After a while its 50% gaining time and concentrating more on Sounds and music.
Hey mate ! At first I was afraid to found an annoying new video about how "bad" is the Big Six and some questionnable comparisons with less high end gear etc. I recently saw a video with somebody comparing it to a Behringer console...! Oh dear. But to be honest I totally agree with your point of view ! I was seriously thinking about integrating the Big Six in my workflow, I wanted it ! But the more I dig, the more I see it simply couldn't help anything out in my situation (ie : no insert on every channel, very limited Eq band choices, not fully featured G bus comp and so on...). I think It's simple when you can afford it to just fall into the trap of the magic around the brand and forget about the main point : Is it really for me ? :) By the way, the farts got me haha !
Hahaha, glad you appreciated the humour! Yeah I think that is the big question with gear like this, does it suit MY workflow. I think for some people, this is an amazing console, but for me personally, there's just some things i would need and some things i could do without. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!
Great video! but I disagree in the point about needing extra gear to get the better result being a downside, I think given the flexibility of having an integrated interface, just getting a few channel compressors and eq (eg, for just two mono channels inserts) and a stereo eq and comp for the master section, you can make use of it very easily for tracking, mixing, and mastering
Yeah, as i mention in the video, there's actually a lot on offer here. And if you have a bunch of outboard gear already, this could be a great front or back end system. But, some would be buyers are unaware that there are limitations, such as 4 preamps not 8, and things like that, that won't work for them as a first time purchase.
@@diyrecordingstudio how would that work when tracking synths for example? say I fill up the mixer with synths, would I get low volume on those channels wth no preamp or just. different sonics since there is no super analog on? Cheers!
why oh why didnt they just make that mid freq sweepable, honestly that alone would have been a gamechanger, its the most important sonic area after all
Yessss! Couldn’t agree more. I would consider buying one if it added just that feature to the rest of the console. It’s a great unit but no control of the mids is a deal breaker for me.
Sorry Rick but I beg to differ my friend. See there was thing once upon a time called tape. It added inherent noise, saturation and compression. With a bunch of preamps that do the same like Neve; API, and the like, you are getting all three effects x 2. So in comes the “clean” (not as clean as some might think though) ssl transistor based pres and now you half the undesired effects! Undesired you say!!! But everyone wants saturation, and compression on their tracks, especially nowadays. We’ll that’s because now tape is gone certain genres benefit from that saturation. However, in this lies the problem that you have missed my friend. Certain genres do want “clean, transparent preamps with extra headroom”. Take a guess which ones 🧐
Thanks for your video, it is good to have another view. And you‘re right, in most demo videos a lot of additional gear is being used! What I miss most with this Mixer is ADAT I/O. That would make integration with interfaces so much easier. Also, I can‘t find any information on latency and quality of drivers?! Coming from an RME Interface I am spoiled in that domain. So, not sure whether that solves my challenge of integrating my ever growing collection of synths, drumcomputers, effects and stuff. And my interest in analog summing. But: this comes closer than anything else, so despite of some of its shortcomings and the marketing spin I think this still is a very interesting product!
Is a Tascam Model 12 mixer at $599 TERRIBLY WORSE than the SSL Big SIX at $2,400 for the tracking and mixing outcomes you can get?! I am upgrading my studio and watching such reviews for pro advice and tips. I use Audacity and Cakewalk DAWs.
I think it entirely depends on what YOU are trying to do. What are you trying to record and mix at the moment? I would probably mix with plugins over the tascam EQ's. Do you need a desk for the preamps?
No it’s not worse than the SSL big shit lol. You’re better off using the Tascam Model 12 as your audio interface/preamp, use SSL plugins and sum back to the Tascam. You’ll get a far better SSL sound with analogue goodies (if you want that stuff) than the Big Shit. Save your money. Buy mics, outboard gear, synths etc for the remaining $2500. Don’t be conned by this gassy nightmare BS Marketing.
Thank you thank you thank you. I did two videos on my thoughts on this mixer on my youtube page and SSL people got super mad when I simply explaining exactly what you just explained in this video on your thoughts on this product. If your curious, the video was called Another brand new overpriced product that targets people that cant afford it and I did a caveat video called SSL big six users get butt hurt.
Hi Mark, I actually came across your videos after i posted this one. There definitely IS some butt hurt going on sometimes. Case in point half of the comments in this video. Hahaha. Gotta laugh sometimes, because I actually think this is a pretty cool product, just not for everyone.
OH LORD! This guy knows his stuff, anyway I’m hoping my ssl uf8 & UC1 will sort the EQ issues what do you think! ? £2400 hmmm clean sound ? Super quiet? SSL BIG SIX! SSL UF8 SSL UC1 Is that a good setup? I’m hoping so ! ( mat central London 🇬🇧)
What did you expect for 3000$ ? do you know how much an ssl channel strip costs? I have 2 taken from a 4000 G and I paid them 2500€ each. and on the 500 series modules, have you seen how much they cost? 750 $ pre amp 1050 $ dyn 1050 $ eq and you still miss the "lunchbox" with power, you would have only one channel for the same price as the big six I forgot the g buss compressor alone costs 2500 $ ... The Big Six is a solution for home studios, the price proves it and offers enormous possibilities that, however, were unthinkable until recently.
Don’t really understand the problem with the eq’s. Most modern workflows aren’t doing surgical eq on the way in and if you need to, proper mic placement/selection or acoustics should probably be something to learn first, printing when mixing takes too much time, recallability is always an issue and plugins are way more powerful. Since they’re fixed frecuencies the design screams that it wasn’t meant to be compared with the classic ssl eq. Anyway, the big six isn’t a perfect product, but maybe it’s value relies in being the first attempt to bring analog technology to all people so they can understand that the reason they don’t sound good isn’t their gear. Specially nowadays that advertisement and social networks try to sell analog products as the ultimate purchase for your artistic realization or the long kept secret to amazing sounds
I think you make some valid points points re the pros and cons of the unit but to be honest, I found your laughing/smirking rather dismissive and condescending to those hobby/semi pro musicians/producers/songwriter etc... I agree that if you have a huge production in mind, the big six, while more flexible than it's smaller sibling, would still involve too many clever and brain-draining workarounds. For me, it might be exactly what I'm looking for - I am not totally sure yet but the console is definitely on my radar. I have had an A&H gsr24 for ten years but since my band no longer exists, I have been more or less planted on channels 17-24 of the A and H. So, eight channels for me would work out quite nicely. I do more or less only acoustic guitar and vocals stuff with a bit of bass or percussion and a second vocal. I guess there are quite a few of us out there who work like that and so this desk could be a good option. It's quite pricey but I guess it has superior sound over my A and H.. Anyway, just saying..
Nicolas, maaaaaate. This whole channel is dedicated to DIYer's like myself. I'm just havin a bit of a laughs in this series of vids, whilst discussing both real pros AND cons on gear. I agree with all the SSL fans here, it's a great piece of kit for some people, but not everyone. But go and have a look at the rest of my content, is choc full of DIY home studio solutions, and if you read the comments, I spend a lot of time trying to reply to people and help them make the right choices for themselves.
Maaaate - looks like you're not open to criticism of any kind..I was the second viewer to find you a bit smug and smirky. Maybe you don't do it on purpose in which case, it's a bit unfortunate for you..🙂
@@nizman1000 nick.... Buddy. This video series is called hold ya gas. It has fart memes and puns littered through the video. Its basically one big fart joke. I think you may have completely missed the point.
@@diyrecordingstudio er....no I didn't miss the point - I get it that it's all meant to be light-hearted - and that's good and you do pull that off - but that doesn't mean that one or two of your gestures and comments don't at least come across as smirky - anyway, looks like you can't see what I'mk trying to tell you and that's already used too much time - end of!
the new SSL six whit the interface and the ONE BOTTOM USB ROUNTING from the daw for summing is fucking ground BREAKING .THAT alone is enough to no talk shit about this console.
I do agree with some of the points you made tho. I think it’s definitely a step in the right direction the six was so small and limited, the big six got a lot better and more features. But i think they need 1 more step up like a 8mono 4 stereo channel, with better sweepable band eqs, hp & lp filters on every channel, better adjustable adsr g bus comp. Inserts on all tracks, usb interface is fire 🔥 would love to ditch my focusrite Clarett 8pre for that. 🔥 i think they are definitely headed in the right direction! Giving more and more ppl what they want/need! Great point on tools. Definitely give us 8 super analog pre’s for all our channel needs. I might hold back to see what they release next! Cuz i’d be mad if i spend 3k$ and they come out with something way better haha
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Hi John, I agree with some of what you've said here, but then completely disagree with some of it as well. Yes, the plugins you mentioned sound great. AND they will give you more OPTIONS than the ssl big six as it's eq and compression sections are pretty stripped back. This was a big beef of mine with this console. However, the mackie desk you mentioned really does not match up to the quality of EQ, compression or preamp quality of the big six. Not even close. On top of that, yes hardware is expensive. But I can tell you this. I'm lucky enough to work on an SSL (duality) and have a wide array of outboard gear (think all the famous stuff, la2a's, 1176's etc) where i teach. The hardware may be more expensive....but it does still sound better. I know that comment will piss a lot of people off, but hardware is still better than software in SOME regards. Plugins have other benefits, but i would still track and mix on hardware as much as possible then finish things off with plugins. I always get a better result. Thanks for your opinion and taking the time to comment.
Dude Acustica Audio Just took the Mixer Game and Ran with it.... With Camel, Snow and Frost With Camel Your Getting a very well live analog Sampled / Accurate Algorythic version of a $15,000 British Triden A and B Consoles With Snow your Basically getting 90% of New RND Mastering Processor and with Frost your getting 90% of a brand new SSL E Mastering Strip, now... with any Low or Mid Level Analog Gear your Mixes summed with those live analog plugins and final master wit those and ran though your own gear...are going to sound wayyy...more professional than "Just having that "New Low Level SSL Mixer " that does not even have the same technology or Pre s as a Full SSL G, E or 9000 J....man...that thing compared to having your own full analog rack with some top quality Acustica Audio plugins...is a RIP OFF!! Honestly the Camel Plugin Bundle (Trident A and B Mixing Consoles) Blow the SiX s away...LOL
Yeah totally fair enough. It's just areally tricky bit of gear to incorporate into a workflow i think. Solves some problems, but creates a bunch more. I don't know, not for me either.
@@diyrecordingstudio thank you for this! GAS is so real and you have to check it regularly otherwise you will be upset over equipment instead of making music
A year later, I bought it, and I will double back. It is the best equipment I have purchased. WIth 7 Synths, this is a central hub. I also have my inserts running on 1/2 to my patch bay for outboard processing. I use my ST cue for Pedal effects on my synths! All in All Money well spent. For $2299 you will be hard pressed to find another Mixer that can do all the big Six can do imho
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert.... Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo..... $2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
But to be fair, it was designed for Home Studios as i understand it. So you wouldn*t expect a full functional Console especially with that price tag. How would you design a console in that price range.... you have to make compromises
Totally agree. It can be a decent bit of gear in a home studio, my biggest gripe is it wasn't the one fix all mixing solution they were making it out to be. All the promotional vids utilized heaps of outboard gear to really make it work as a "studio console". I think a lot of home studios would be better off with something smaller scale but more flexible.
@@diyrecordingstudio OK, i guess they got me then. : -) I personally are not very much into all this technical stuff , i just wanted to make music at home with a drum maschine, a sampler and some synth sometimes in a daw and sometimes dawless without an steady headegg (cabeling etc). And right now it seems to be working for that purpose. I sold my Audient ID22 and Asp800 for it and for me it sounds a lot better, although i dont know what would be the Benchmark Soundwise in that pricerange. I have it for a week right know , i can say i am impressed with the eqs but are a little disappointed by the compressors (both Bus and ChanellComps). I thought the Hardware Comps had to be much better then my VST Comps, but to be honest i like the SSL VST Comps more...
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Nope. Just an opinion. I do work on a 48 channel ssl duality though. Studied on an ssl 4000e/g series and am right in the middle of building a bunch of diy ssl 500 series units too. 🤓
I totally agree. I don't know whom is this really useful for. You can find analogue summers cheaper. You can find great converters (also cheaper) and pres like those of Focusrite for a fraction of the cost. And you can add outboard eq(s) that you can actually control, or EQ your stuff itb and route them to the summer. All added together for less that the Big six... and if one of them breaks, you can replace only this one piece! So, I've already done this in my home setup. Can I record drums or a live band? No! Could I do it with the Big Six? Also no! But, admit it, you kinda overdid it with the fart jokes.
It's for me! I track through the mixer because of the nice pres. Then only go back when I need to analog sum for whatever reason. I don't need it to be a a full blown console as I am just going in and out with minor compression and a bit of tone shaping. The rest is going to be done in the DAW. But having the option to go back to the mixer to sum in some analog gear in an easy way is sweet. If that's your workflow, there isn't a device out there for the price that offers the ease of use without it being a hassle of patching in multiple devices.
Honestly I couldn't see myself buying one. I thought I'd be interested but there's China written all over it. I'd rather just have some nice 500 series stuff at the sane price point. What was great about the smaller brother was the versatility for such a small form factor. Thanks for the video..
No probs. I actually think it's a great console for certain uses. But yeah, id also probably go the 500 series route and expand my setup over this option.
You're not wrong, a large amount of all our tech these days comes from there and it's great. An old stereotype that does probably need to be forgotten.
This video is like “look guys it’s a good product but look at where I can point out there little obvious marketing discrepancies! I know the history of SSL and they are being shady”! Everyone does it and if the hardware sounds good that’s all that really matters. Who cares what letter console they didn’t 100% replicate bro. Haha it costs $4k or something.. think about that.. Review the box, not the marketing team.
1. Anyone spending $3K on a product should know enough to RTFM first. So surprises about what you’re getting would be on you. 2. I am a UA Apollo user. I have wanted to see a mid quality analog console with A/D + D/A to use as an ADAT expander for an Apollo. This product would have been perfect if it had ADAT I/O. 3. Even without ADAT, I am contemplating it. I have decided to use it during tracking for extra inputs on a second Mac. I will still use the Apollos (X6 and Twin X) on my primary system for inputs that need Unison. The Big Six will give me 16 inputs and outputs for line level gear for $3K. An X16 has 16 inputs and outputs and nothing else for $4,500. While I track line level devices on my second system I will use Big Six’ 4 mic/line/ instrument channel strips as an analog front end on the 4 line inputs on the X6 using those channel’s inserts. And I can use the 2 channels of the bus and listen mic compressors as outboard analog gear with the Apollo too. Sure, I will have to import tracks from the Big Six system to the Apollos’ system. But I am looking at this as a workaround for the missing ADAT issue. Overall this hits what I’ve been looking for. Just not a perfect solution.
Yeah adat added would be great. It's a great piece of kit provided you have the outboard to support it, which it sounds like you do so I'm sure it will serve you well.
Thanks for this video. For what it is I wouldn't pay retail but at best used. I have great mic pres and a killer interface so this wouldn't be an upgrade for me even if I were in the market. In my humble opinion the price does not justify what your getting. Gosh I hate to say it you may come out better with a plugins yikes lololol
Spoiler Alert.... Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options..... $2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Your mistaken about some of your claims in this video. I have the big six and you absolutely do not have to only use the 4 stereo tracks as mono tracks. They record to two separate tracks or mono. So they share the EQ which you could knock it for, but they are definitely 8 tracks not four. I use my stereo tube pre and comp with them for rooms, overheads, Toms and plenty of other useful sources where the fact that they share an EQ is actually a plus. Realistically, most people own other pre amps and compressors they wanna use anyways. I absolutely love those channels for drums. I have a focusrite octo pre and 8 channel focusrite rack comp that pairs swimmingly with it. I also have an SSL2+ that I can use the mic pre's from and go out the alt 3/4 outputs and into the extra channels. I have already used the big six to record my full band using all 16 tracks at once and it sounded great. The drummer took 10 tracks, the guitar had one, the bass had one, we had lead and backup vocals on thier own tracks plus two room mics to capture the full sound. I agree for summing back in it's really not the greatest EQ section to use for mixing but they are definitely very helpful when tracking to give your tracks a bump of high end sheen, low end thump or warm up the mids. You don't really want to get to out of hand with EQ while tracking anyways. I do like summing out to hit my racks gear and go back in. I also like the fact that I can buss all my toms, vocals or guitars to a single rack comp or effects unit and then send them back in one stereo track for an Aux bus to blend in parallel to my mix. I have also found sending my master stereo track out to the fusion and then kissing it with the G-comp sounds really good. I would also like to point out that the listen mic compressor in the big six is really an accurate portrayal from the larger consoles. I A/B'd it with the plug-in and it sounds even better for crushing some snares, drum buss or whatever you would like and then blending it back in. Is the big six as good as a full format console, of course not. But it is a hell of a product! It does alot and is definitely worth more then it cost in my opinion. It's not designed to replace a full size console in a professional studio. It's designed to give your home studio a very solid solution for hybrid mixing and recording. I absolutely love having it at my house to record and sum to my rack gear with. There are really no other products in this price range that deliver this amount of versatility and quality for your home studio.
You're right, with the stereo channels i propably could have clarified this further, but there are still limitations to those stereo channels, like as you said they may share eqs, which is good for some things like maybe overheads, but maybe not ideal for other dual mic situations either.
I like your work around idea though. Great option for your workflow. However my main argument here, youve unintentionally supported, in that you need a bunch of extra outboard gear to really get the most out of the big six. Great if You have that gear already, maybe not the best option for some people just starting out.
@@allIhaveISMusic1 No it doesn't. I've seen lots of these hateful comments made by people who don't own one. I can assume your just another bitter bedroom Artist that is mad at the gear for no reason. I was using a 6k setup from UAD before I got the SSL and it has way better headroom, monitoring and tracking control. The built in summing is fantastic and It is easier to use my outboard gear with this then any other interface I've tried. I've had a ton of them in the past 27 years. I actually got to try one for free and I wouldn't have bought it if it didn't outperform the setup I already had. Save your bitterness for somebody who wants to sulk with you. I don't have any brand bias. I don't care who makes something, it either delivers results or I get rid of it. I could care less who makes it. I've never owned an SSL console nor did I desire one. Having an interface with built in compression and EQ shaping on the way in with very easily accessible routing options for my outboard gear has been amazing. I don't care who likes it or who doesn't. The results speak for themselves and the big six is a fantastic sounding/ versatile piece of gear. If you don't like it, don't buy it but I find your quest to make others hate it a clear signal that your bitter for some reason. Maybe you can't afford it or you already bought some shit gear and then saw this and are now butthurt? Who knows, but your motivation to speak out against it just shows the troll in you is real 💯
@@diyrecordingstudio I think it was designed to work with your other gear. They could have easily added 8 more pre's and raised the price a couple hundred bucks. If you have no other pre's it is definitely not the interface for you but I actually like the 8 open channels. I've heard people bashing it for being too big and then complaining it doesn't have enough pre's yet the 16k API box only had four inputs and takes up half the room. Nobody seemed to bash it. I think it's all hype and clickbait. I like mine. I haven't talked to anyone who hates thiers. I've heard a ton of people say it's over priced yet it does more then 99% of other interfaces and I switched from my UAD Apollo rig with 16 inputs to this and noticed a giant leap in quality from monitoring/summing and insert capabilities. It especially shines when recording a whole band. Multiple headphones mixes, I/O and near zero latency. I hope somebody outdoes it soon. I'd love to have an even bigger one priced this affordably.
Well, I have the Big Six and it has a pristine sound. I was using the Apollo with other gear, but I have to say that the Big Six it's really what they claim to be, it really improved the sound of my productions by adding the detail needed in my tracks. Now I can really hear the percussion and the drums have more punch. I am mixing using 7 busses send to the different channels of the Big Six and it really added more definition, clarity and punch when going through the Big Six, something that I didn't have before with just the Apollo. The routing it's very smart and I really love it. For example, I route my instrument mix to a cue and the voices to a different cue this gives me the flexibility of adjusting the music track and voice to different levels getting the artist or myself the voice level needed to really hear your performance as you will when you are singing live and therefore you can sing with more confidence and with better pitch. Also, the cues can be used as a send and return to add parallel processing or to add effects to the channels. The EQ it's a very smart design and it really works. I been cutting as lot of plugins because the great sound it has and the buss compressor even when it does not have all the controls found in the G-Buss 500 rack for example, it glues all the tracks together as the 500 series does because the use the attack and release settings more used for the majority of engineers using the original version. As mentioned here, it's aimed for home studios that want to add the SSL analog Mojo to their productions but it certainly does a lot more than that if you take the time to read the manual as I did. My virtual instruments sound a lot better because the high mid and highs harshness of the digital sound have been rounded out by running it through the analog circuitry of the Big Six. In order to do this with any other gear will require at least twice the amount of money because just a studio level converter with 16 outs is over $2000 plus the summing mixer of your choice. It integrates nicely with Windows 10. I totally disagree with the comments at the end of the video, the only way to know is if you have one as I do. Also, the Big Six has insert points for the first four channels and the master buss to add more processing to your mix. I have the SSL fusion and the SSL Ultraviolet as an insert on my master buss and just this requires a lot of I/O if you are using a sound interface. This is the best solution for Hybrid home studios on a budget period!
Yeah so for you, like some other guys in the comment section, this is a great product, and it accomodates your outboard and workflow well. And that's great and i fully acknowledge that in this video. However, if you read through the comment section, there are also some would be buyers of this unit, that are unaware of some of the limitations this device has, as they don't have the same outboard, or are actually in need of more preamps etc.. So it might be the perfect solution for you, which is excellent, just not the answer for everybody.
Do you route a drum bus thru a stereo channel or a mono channel????
Cranborne Audio ADAT 500 may be better for those who use high end converters.
They screwed up with the lack of external clocking and the limited EQs.
I would rather pay an extra $1k for a midband parametric...I don’t need the high shelf.
And an external clock and or ADAT alone would have made this thing epic.
You like you’re trying to convince yourself that it was worth the money you spent on it. I 100% agree on the 500 series comment
So as someone who owns the original Six, I have to agree with what you've said (and I knew these caveats prior to purchase). From my experience, the Six gives you basic tools to get your recorded tracks to a more polished place that would normally require extra gear. The EQ curves shift when switched to bell, so they are much more versatile than I expected and quite smooth. That said, you can't use them for surgical EQing (even if they added a mid frequency to the Big Six) and I don't think that was ever the intention. As an example, for summing I have an RME interface card outputting via ADAT to a Cranborne 500 series and from there the individual outputs go to the Six for mix down. There is also hardware on the mix bus insert.
Both units are great for home studio use, but expect to spend quite a bit more if you want to get the most out of them. The Big Six has an interface which does address some of the issues I had to get around as mentioned above, but I would expect it to have average latency. Due to this, it doesn't suit my needs. Both of these units are great for bringing a polished sound to a home studio and the value is definitely there considering what you get including a monitoring section. However, I think people need to plan well and set their expectations accordingly before purchasing.
“Stay away from negative people. They have a problem for every solution.” - Albert Einstein
Jesus, you realise that with a full g-comp and full e series EQs, this would cost 10k+. Nobody is mislead here. SSL six sounded fantastic, I'm sure this will too. This will be a big hit just like the Six was. You realise small mixers don't even have per channel compressors, yes maybe a sweepable mid with questionable quality. You can go the Allen Heath route and that's ok but this is pro audio here with tons of headroom and top quality components.
Totally agree with you. As i state in the video, there's a lot on offer in this console. Its potentially a great piece of gear. People just need to also understand the limitations as well.
These are not really limitations as ssl channel comps don't usually have attack for example and most users leave the g-comp on the same settings all the time. Watch the SSL engineer video explaining everything. They chose sensible defaults and that's what you can cram in this form factor and be able to hit the price point without compromising quality. Let's not pretend any budget mixer even the Tascams would stand up against SSL. You quickly realise that it's better to have some limitations with pro quality instead of 3 band eq on every channel that are brittle, hello Mackie. It's night and day.
@@intnrmri i disagree regarding the settings on a gbuss compressor, i would definitely use different settings for many different styles of music or for different dynamic response.
However, once again, i think this is actually a really great console, potentially, but you have to be honest about what is can really do functionally, and what other gear you're going to have to combine with it, to make it work for a bunch of situations.
@@diyrecordingstudio i get that it's not completely honest to write "g-comp" on it, it should read "g-comp style", "e series eq style" as the underlying design is really very similar it just doesn't have all the controls. But it just doesn't fit. Well you can at least buy a full g comp for 2k and put it on the insert, but then again thats almost the price of this full mixer.
@@intnrmri @Jazz Crates yeah totally agree with you here. I really think for the price, there's a lot on offer, but if you check the comment section here, a lot of would be buyers think theyre would be getting 8 full preamp channels.
I know it would be hard to fit much more in this unit, but i would rather have a more usuable mid band or something.
I'm just gonna list what I was hoping this video would contain:
*How does it compare to a full size SSL console, in terms of sound (that's the impression your title gave me and is why I clicked on it)
*Your personal opinion on how it sounds in general as compared to using console emulating plugins, etc.
*More detailed analysis of its individual parts (in terms of sound), EQ, Channel dynamics, buss comp, summing, etc. and how it compares to similar plugins.
*Cheery on top (as a fun comparison) would've been a sound comparison of it and something similar, like the Craneborn, Mackie, etc.
I really wasn't expecting someone making a review of a product based off its specs from a website with no hands-on experience. Can you imagine if every UA-camr did this? It would be almost impossible and very time consuming sifting through endless uploads, trying to find one of an actual product review with examples. Just my .02 Cheers
Agreed
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Your wouldn't actually need a SSL Bus Comp since it's already in the SIX mixer. So closer to $4000, well worth it if you ask me. I own a regular SIX mixer, SAND and various other SSL plugins. Plugins get close but still don't compare. But still useful to fill in gaps where the mixer can't, like additional EQ bands and frequency points for instance.
Im looking for a small desk with about 4 inputs as I record everything myself separately, I don't want an interface because I can't be bothered learning the software that comes with them. Sound quality is my primary interest here. Will this give me great sound quality?
I wasn't sold on the Big SiX at first. Then, recently I found myself looking at a $6K+ 500 series setup that would give me drum bus compression, mix bus compression and a stereo Pultec-style EQ for my mix bus. I've also been looking at channel strips lately, though that pursuit is far less urgent.
Enter Big SiX....again. I think I'm gonna go for it now. Obviously, it takes care of the channel strip as I don't need a lot there beyond just a stellar pre and some light compression. I'll EQ individual channels ITB like a sane person. Add the Tegeler Audio EQP1 on the master bus insert and there's my mix bus sorted. I can send my drum bus through channels 3 and 4 to grab some compression and voila! Thousands saved!
I'll probably never sum through it ('cause why?), and once I get my sound dialed in, I'll probably rarely ever move a knob or a fader, so no worries about recall. 🤷🏾♂️
From what you described in the video, you want API's The Box 2 with an interface. You're not gonna get that anywhere near this price point. It is what it is.
Exactly the same thought process with the 500 series comparison.
It’s strange to say, but this and the six are phenomenal value for their features.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
I love TEGLER anything ❤SSL 6 maybe the way to go
I watched the video a bunch of times in a attempt to keep my GAS under control. It definitely helped: in the end I ordered the regular (not Big) Six...
Oh cool!! Hahaha glad i could help. Just curious on how you plan to implement the ssl six into your workflow?
@@diyrecordingstudio Thanks for your help!! The main purpose will be for having an all-analog headphone mix while I'm recording/overdubbing, so I don't have to use the DSP mixer in my Apogee. It will also be my studio monitor controller. And, I'm really looking forward to trying the bus compressor on various things including synth, drum bus, and full mix.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
cool video, i sold my B6 a month go and bought it right back just bc of the EQ's does something special to the sound! and i work with MPC so great for summing and easy workflow, only caveat is no adat or spdifs to run it to an ADC! I do have flock patch. apollo x8 and buncha outboard, but cant figure out how to connect B6 to all of that, so will use it just for basic mixing and run that mix back through mastering chain, which includes , Bus+, Fusion , Portico, & other eqs for fine tuning, & more processing ITB! Thanks agin cheers!
Hey there, you should check this article, www.production-expert.com/production-expert-1/2019/5/3/installing-and-configuring-the-new-flock-audio-patch-digitally-controlled-analogue-patch-bay
You basically have all the right gear, you need to patch the I/O from your console and hardware all into your patchbay and then on your flock audio you can do some really cool stuff.
If you want some help feel free to contact me on my email at mitch@thediyrecordingstudio.com
@@diyrecordingstudio Thanks for the info, article is helpful and appreciated!! Just wanted to add that i've also got a pulse 16 as well, since flock patch I/O s are fully loaded , was thinking about routing I/O s from B6 to pulse and then to flock and apollio x8 via Adat if that makes sense.
I'll definitely need the help, and will email you , would be great Many thanks!
The main problem for me is the lack of direct outs (it has the same number of outputs as SSLSix) and no ADAT. Taking into account it the Big6 sums 18 channels and SSL6 sums 12 and that they removed the changing bell frequency it is no need to upgrade from my SSLSix for me. I would like to add that Super Analog is not just a preamp it is the whole construction topology of their gear.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
Big Six DOES have the changing Bell frequency on LF and HF EQ. Just wanted to point that out for anyone reading and shopping.
Thanks for your review of the BIG SIX!
I see it a bit differently. The BIG SIX, finally I found my recording, mixing and summing desk! All in one! The greatest relief is getting rid of all the endless cables, patching. Just plug the USB in...that's it! No Total Mix etc...that's amazing, just routing inputs and outputs and your good to go! The EQ is great, but I sometimes use some plugins in addition, especially with the low end. Except a Drawmer 1973 I have no need for more external hardware at the moment.
Another big point for me, the preamps, the headroom, the converters and the stereo imaging/summing!
I often sum two times in a mixing process, the first time I sum vocals, guitars etc everything seperate in groups.
Then I sum the groups...perfect workflow for me!
I am very happy!
Cons: it gets very hot and a comp on every channel would be great!
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 You do the math, no problem with that.
Should I just get the official ssl plug-ins, a neve orbit, and save the desk space?
Hi Artie!
Maybe, are you doing a lot of recording or mostly mixing? That orbit is a great bit of kit! Do you use any other outboard gear atm?
I think its good for a secondary studio setup where you are doing overdubs and vocal/guitar tracking where you can send a stem mix into the mixer for monitoring to the artist. Off cause it is not for large projects but that is what the SSL Origin is made for.
It's nice to have a small format quality mixer where 16 or 32 channels would be overkill. The "Eq problem" can be fixed by using the insert and a 500 series SSL EQ/Compressor or SSLs plugins (360). in the daw.
The stereo channels are not made for recording but for sending stems from the daw into the mixer for summing. Yes you can record with them keyboards and other stereo line level signals.
So I am running a MacOS aggregate audio device with 3 x Focusrite Clarett interfaces and the Big Six (+ Six) …all at 96K…and this thing is stunning. I am summing 14 stereo busses at mixdown and the converters across this setup sound extremely good. I have not regretted buying the Big Six and continue to be surprised by different ways I can use it. Against that, still a bit wary of reliability issues (although I have had none yet).
I have 2 of them (thanks to the 6 pay at sweetwater, lol) Using Luna I can assign both easily for mixing and the sound is better than just the Apollo. I think SSL really killed it with the B6. I just wish they included inserts on the stereo channels and adat. As for the eq, it's not really meant for full mixing. I eq in the box with the UC1 and then sweeten it up a little with the B6. If you're on the fence, just get one. Your music will sound better.
It's typically a home studio product with high quality preamp. EQ, comp and connectivity are limited but it's absolutely normal for this range price.
Thanks👍
Just remember who mixer this is aimed at. It’s aimed at serious weekend warriors and small home studio owners.
For that, compared with everything else on the market, I think this gives a serious step up to that market.
I can’t afford a really nice SSL setup, but I may be able to afford this.
Yeah it is great value, potentially, depending on what you use it for. My main gripe is the EQ section AND the fact that all the promo sold it as a one stop shop console, even though they showed promo vids with people using tens of thousands of $$$ of outboard gear with it.
@@diyrecordingstudio I'm a keyboardist and vocalist. I use some analogue keys and usually input them with a good DI into my front end. My vocal chain includes a seventh Circle Audio API clone, and a dbx compressor for light compression going in. In your opinion would this board replace all that in a meaningful way?
I dont think it could "replace it", no. The API preamp and compressor you're talking about are completely different preamps and compressors to what's in the SSL big SiX. All of these hardware pieces are just different tools for different jobs. Some preamps and compressors are great all rounders. some are great on drums, some are amazing on vocals or bass. The SSL compressor has it's own sound, as does the preamp. The question is, is that THE sound that is right for what you're doing?
Can I line out the Big Six to a Tascam Model 16 for that SSL quality and bypass the Tascam preamps? I mainly record and mix on my Model 16 and then finish everything in logic.
You could definitely use the line inputs on the Tascam model 16. I don’t know how much of an upgrade or improvement it would be though to your existing setup. What is it you’re trying to gain from the ssl console? Compression? You might be better adding singular outboard bits of gear if so.
It’s ok that the eq and compressor are limited any more surgery can be done in the box this is an amazing bunch of tools in a small form for a reasonable proce
I totally agree with you, great price, great piece of kit. Just not for everybody.
its $3000 bro the XL desk was more than this with no EQs and no Compressors.
This thing Has 6 compressors 3 different flavors.
4 channel compressor
1 Bus compressor
1 LMC
8 3 band EqQs
It has 18 channel Audio interface
you can actually connect 8 external preamps for a total of 12 mic inputs
I have the original SIX. I would love to have this but it's not worth the extra money. These SIX consoles are better for analog summing of your busses once you have done all surgical mixing in the box. Send the busses out to the SIX and do minor level and EQ tweaking and G Buss compression to nicely glue everything together. The Fusion on the buss insert adds that extra SSL oomph too.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Why are you so proud of this to have posted it twice? The spoiler is that you don't know what you're talking about. The FX 12 is fine for live use, but not for critical studio recording. You're making a fool of yourself.
You have no idea what you’re talking about I have use the FX 12 on every single master that I have on SoundCloud and my masters sound excellent
It also has a USB connection where can be used directly in a studio with ProTools so you’re wrong again it’s actually made to use directly in the studio
The only fool here is you, Don’t knock a piece of gear just because you don’t know how to use it properly Mackie is one of the best affordable brands out there for musical gear
While researching this, I've stumbled across the Cranborne Audio 500R8 - I think this will be more flexible for me in the long run and and I can add modules and inserts on all channels. This plus a midi fader pack like the softube console one or UF8 will be the way to go!
I think that is an awesome solution! The cranbournes are great.
I use Same combo, I have put 8u of 500 series tape on it for color. I use Softube EQ/Comp 😁
@@MrlegendOr sounds exactly like what I had in mind!, I think I'll go with the softube console 1 first before upgrading to cranborne for analog mix. Think I would be missing the bus compression of the big six, but I can use the master insert point on the cranborne. What 500 tape modules are you using?
@@teabreakbeats Cranborne 500R8 with HRK ST596 combo 😀
The Cranborne Audio 500R8 / 500-series way for more money is much more flexible with a myriad of pristine sound options.
The 8-channel full feature is going to be 10k+. I have the six, and it's all I need for, and it's an ok front end and summing mixer. I have also fully connected it up with the D-sub and patch bays. I have to say i might have gone for the Big Six to avoid all the extras to make the Six work for me.
This product has a very specific use case. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the product, so many people are talking about it like it is something it isn’t
Yeah i think i cover that in this video. Its great for certain situations, but it isnt fully fledged ssl console that can do studio quality productions, without a bit more outboard or software in the box.
Awesome bit of kit for the money if it works with your work flow, just wouldnt suit mine, personally.
I think the BiG SiX is indicative of the company's new direction under it's new mother company. The modern transistors they are able to source and use in their products are quiet and leaps and bounds ahead of what was available 10 years ago. The good news is they are also cheaper to manufacture. It's definitely a good thing to be able to produce this sort of quality for the intro tier consumers, much nicer than Mackie/Behringer/Yamaha mixer interfaces that came out a decade ago albeit more expensive, but more fully fledged features. I think it's worth checking out
A prism lyra 2 with just 2 Preamps and mastering grade as they say AD/DA converters is equal in price if not a bit more expensive than the SSL big Six. So if as a home studio owner who is not intending to record drums and prefers ot mix 100% in the box but just want console grade ability to track in and also mastering grade converters to mix and master. Will you consider the SSL Big Six a better deal than a Prism Lyra 2
Right tool for the right job man. You're describing two very different use cases. Dont get too caught up on converter quality. Get the tool that helps you do your job best, easiest, fastest.
Then, what mixer do you recommend?
Thats a pretty broad and tricky question, it all depends on what you're trying to record or mix!
If I was using big six to mix 16 channels of audio from USB how would I print that mix off the console?
Send the SSL mix back to two channels of your DAW armed to record and set to record the stereo output of the SSL. Just press play/record on your DAW and the tracks you want to mix will play to the SSL where you can mix them, and at the same time the result will be coming back to your DAW on the other 2 channels you have set up in your project.
Thanks sir. I was on the feance to buy one. your video was very helpful . Basicly what every home studio owner is looking for, is does this make my home studio sound like the pro studios.... and the BIG Six doesn't.
Yeah i think you need a lot of extra outboard to really get the most out of it. Which is unfortunate. There are some serious pros with it, but not for me. My current outboard setup cost nearly the same price and is a lot more usable and flexible.
The Big Six (I have one) gives excellent bang per buck to rhe amateur home recorder. The farts were amusing.
Definitely for home studio. If I can leave everything plugged up, not have to rewire for mixing vs tracking, keep in mind you’re also going into daw. Where I do most eq and compression anyways. Where you mix. I
I think it shines as a “get it right at the source” mixer piece. Just enoguh eq and compression to get a top notch sound.
I think this is where it shines. I have warm audio preamp and comp just for tracking w mix. A grand and bought second hand. It’s nice to write and produce with daw running at same time and have everything going in having analog flavor 2”w/o having to patch everything 1 at a time through my 1 preamp and compressor. Changes the game in that’s since.
Yeah i think you're spot on here! Sounds like a great solution for your setup!
Hey Mitch - thanks for the video. I think you've provided a fair review of the Big Six - it certainly has some limitations but what it has at the price point is pretty good - as long as people are aware before buying which is the point you're making. So, when it comes to the "what do I buy at this price point" question for me, I can say (after watching this) that the smaller Six would be more suitable as I'll be routing it through a Focusrite Clarett system which already has 12 nice pres.
Yeah that’s probably a great solution.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
3k for what you get is solid. Period. Please list here a mixer that offers as good audio performance and features for less money?
I totally agree with you here. As i state in the video, there's heaps on offer in this new console and it's a really cool device. It just might not suit everyone's needs, and not everyone is aware that there's only 4 preamps here, even though that's kind of a great deal.
I personally would rather go something like a cranbourne unit with adat, then some 500 series units, even the SiX units, I have nothing against them. But at least this way you can get more preamps AND have possible future expansion.
If you have a bunch of gear aleady to accompany this unit, I think it's incredible, but some first time buyers aren't aware that this might not have ALL they need or want.
@@diyrecordingstudio cranborne 500 R8 & even the 500ADAT are EXCELLENT alternatives. And the sound quality is incredible.
Allen n heath r 16
@@MockeryManor no eq, comp, speaker/monitor proper section etc etc.
@@lal936 nope. Doesn’t sound as good. More preamps and eq, yes but not in the same league.
Why Oh Why don't they add transport controls?
That is actually a decent idea!!
it’s a member of the six family echo system, but still good solution for inserting the outboard gears and for sum.
100% Agree! If you have the outboard, excellent bit of gear.
Very helpful. Was torn between a bunch of a different outboard gear and then got excited when I learned of the Big Six, but...I guess I'm back to where I started lol.
The big six is a good bit of kit. Just limited on its own. What is it you're trying to capture, record or mix?
@@diyrecordingstudio Working on an album heavily inspired by NIN. I write using a mix of hardware and plugins but I'd be tracking vocals, hardware synth, guitar, and bass. Any suggestions for outboard?
Okay I agree against the technobabble pr stuff but overal it's a great kit of gear as there's little comment on the actual device more about the speak and what it can't do for things beyond it's design... that you have to work around the limitations.. well even with a full size studio every sessions throws you something where you have to find a work around.. I'm thinking about this for home, and 4 channels will do perfect for tracking Glyn Johns style drums and it's just a 16" bop kit. I'm just wondering about the longevity of this device.. will the digital section get finnicky and croak in a few years? will some of the analogue parts? would it be better to get a just a mixer and converter separate.. where either section can be replaced.
I totally agree with you. It can be a cool bit of studio gear, but you really need extra outboard to get the most out of it. Also, great point about having converters and console together, I'd assume they'd be fine, but what if support was stopped on Mac devices... which would probably happen at some stage down the track. that would REALLY be a pain.
@@diyrecordingstudio Oh wait? why would support be halted? As well I'm kinda thinking around this as a centrepiece, I only need a couple of mic pres for acoustic & overdub, and for the rest I can run in my analogue synths & drummachines and then insert the delays etc.. I feel it's going to be perfect.. and way more useful than just a converter with some mic pre's and monitor knob.. and I'm just about to buy a new mac mini as my last one is from 2012 and well for audio still great but nope it needs and update so keeping mac support for the next decade would by highly appreciated.
Eventually mac does funny things with hardware support, sometimes, usually wayyyyy down the line, like 20 years or more i'm talking. Not anytime soon.
Great video! What mixer would you recommend over this one? (A better deal for the money per features is what I mean)
Also, what is the best mixer in the $1,000 - $2,000 range currently?
I think it really all depends on what you want to record or mix. This is actually a decent mixer for the price, but if you're doing drums or recording live bands or something, this wont have enough mic pres on it's own, depending on what you're doing.
So the real question is, what are you wanting to record, mix, or both, and what do you need from a console besides the price being around that $2000 mark or less?
@@diyrecordingstudio I thought about this as well after having posted the comment! I need around 7 inputs (it would be fine to have more, but that's just where I'm at right now), would prefer most of those if not all to have preamps, phantom power, and I don't have a preference between analog vs digital. I do a lot of guitar/bass recording (both cab miking and DI) and vocals, and have plans for miking up kits in the future. I'm looking for pristine quality before all other bells and whistles. I do live shows weekly, so that's where the onboard controls and features will come into use. Comp, EQ, those features would be nice for my shows, but I'm largely for fidelity over all else. That is how I came up with how much I'm willing to spend essentially! Haha. I am glad you posted this review, I hadn't seen any other reviews that pointed out the lacking features. Thanks for the quick response! If you could just point me into the direction of what boards you could recommend based on all of that, your favorites, etc, that would be incredible! I'm relatively new to the mixer world! The price I mentioned is just my budget, I could largely be overshooting and would be happy to buy a less expensive one!
@@ChaseMeNovember so yoi have a pretty interesting situation where you're trying to cover both live sound and studio recording.
It might be a better solution for yourself especially with such a tight budget, to invest in a digital live mixing console that also allows for usb multitrack recording. That way you get your channel count and cover all your bases.
@@diyrecordingstudio Nice! Can you tell me some models that you may know of that offer good quality studio/live multitrack recording?
Any digital console by Yamaha, Allen and Heath, Midas/ Behringer, will get you there for live and have an interface for multitrack recording.
The next thing you need to ask is, what do you want/what is most important, Super high quality recording with basic live mixing, or Good live mixing, with average/decent recording.
For your budget, which in the scope of audio, is not a lot to spend, it's very tricky to cover all these bases. There will always be a compromise somewhere.
For me it sounds good
I love SSL and use and own some of their gear. If you really want to step up your game, the Rupert Neve Designs 5060 console will smoke this all day. It’s crazy the difference and sped up my workflow which is one of the biggest reasons I use analog. For the “modern” hybrid studio workflow, seriously check out the 5060. Happy mixing! 🤘🎛🤘
i mean, what you're saying is true. but the 5060 is 3x the price. It's not a product for the same demographic.
Sometimes you have to weigh out the pros and cons of each and save for what will give you the biggest difference in both sonics and workflow. Lots of folks impulse buy. Some may dig the SSL over the Neve. Like most anything else audio, you get what you pay for in most instances. Just throwing another option out there is all.
5060 is nothing special I owned one sold it..
Besides all the bells and whistles "missing" maybe someone knows how would it compare to other similar mixer/interfaces such as the soundcraft mtk22 which has more channels and eq sweeps if im not mistaken. Looking to track synths mainly and to add a few external units such as delay/reverb. Never owned a desk and currently tracking my synths with a single UAD arrow which i love but its a hassle with only 1 stereo input as my synth collection is growing, soon have 8 pieces and more coming. Being able to go from daw back to a desk is nice as well.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
The breakaways to "fart" clips was amusing at the beginning, but then became tedious and then finally irritating. Much as I was interested in what you had to say, I gave up watching.
Same. It was really idiotic and an annoying thing to do repeatedly.
Yeah... it was too much.
Hey Mitch,
I agree with you, the most important part about the product is its user. I guess there are a lot of opportunities to use the six as startingpoint and or heart of some analog gear, with some easy bus mixing, aswell as professional monitoring on speakers and headphones (discrete hp mixes, mointor controll section).
But if you want a real console the big six is a bad idea. But i guess 3k for 12 Channels analog plus the ext1, ext2 and summing in, and on top all of those quite well thought features, signales to me, its a modern centerpiece for hybrid productions.
A little note on the g comp. I agree i dont like to print on every mix, but just dialing it in during the mix phase is awesome. U always get a slight compression, that is rather adaptive to its current signal. And again id like to mention that retailing price, of the original bus comp is arroung 3k as well.
But the quintessence of the video is quite on point, good job :)
Yeah i think you hit on the same points i do in this video. Great bit of gear, especially for the price, but you definitely need a bit of extra gear to get the most out of it. A lot of potential here, if there's another one of these on the cards with some more inputs i would buy one.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
The SSL is awesome! Amazing sound.. perfect workflow.
I found the fact they brought out a big one as exciting then when looking at it I thought it gave a lot for the money but looking at what it gave it didn’t give me what I wanted from ssl… the eq is only a half give as it’s not the eq from the consoles and only added a mid range eq to the two band eq… so looking at it I thought it would be a summing console with some added processing already on it… but then it didn’t have much flexibility as most summing units, then it didn’t have proper bus functionality and seemed like it would be harder to route things even with outboard gear and I would be buying it to simply have more processing functionality than a summing mixer but then it would then be harder to actually set things up how I would want to to make analog mixing easier… so a less onboard processing but better routing like the heritage audio 32 channel summer would be way better even though it costs a lot more… the only use I see this for is having a bit of analog to travel with… but then again I would need too also bring other things… they dropped the ball, but in it see there a massive change to bring out something else if they doubled the price… ssl isn’t known for recording it’s known for mixing… simply make a mixing console with the processing the big ones offer in a smaller package… their small consoles with 500 series slots is a little better but then again the cost is 8 times more and drops the ball for that reason… I have been having hope they make a more extensive Fusion processor and if they made a mixer like I imagined combining the more extensive fusion would give you a full analog setup… it’s cool what they’ve made, but not at all iconic
Yeah i agree with a lot of what you said here. It is a cool product, great for some situations and users, but missing features for some others.
I own the SiX and am definitely upgrading to the Big SiX.
That's great man. It's a great piece of kit, just not for everyone.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 no they won't lol. Have a good one lmao.
Im gonna join it with the SSL 12 and rock with that.. cause every 10yrs converters change..
Love the review. All depends on perspective. Im looking at it as an interface, and summing mixer. that includes monitor control, talkback, etc. All with SSL quality. In that perspective, I see the 4 great mic preamps as a bonus. with inserts.
I have other outboard and could easily track drums and more. I saw that if ur setting input levels with outboard gear then you can still use the stereo inputs as individual inputs for tracking line level, where i wouldnt be using th onboard effects anyway. I actually wouldnt use them much if at all. I would use the board for tracking up to 16 inputs is enough for me. I would use the usb routing to insert my outboard effects while mixing in the box. then i would use the usb routing for analog summing, no effects. use the bus comp and or the main bus insers to patch in hardware on the bus. back into the daw. to me that work flow would fit
as u can tell, i kinda want one lol
Bring back the sound of SSL X-Desk … they dropped the ball…
They’re a great console. Are you referring to the one with the 500 series slots?
@@diyrecordingstudio SSL X DESK SUMMING MIXER
Somebody will be skipping Big six to buy some crap out there good luck -SSL and RME dac pro No way you will be buying anything in 10 years ,I have 7 interfaces I am not guessing on a budget just buy ssl+ I have it too ,but RME would save you lots of cash
Is it possible to treat the stereoinputs as mono with external preamps?
Yes I believe it is. As long as you have some additional outboard this desk is a pretty capable bit of gear, that's for sure.
you got some good points there, but was that fart sound necessary
I dunno ...I just bought one ..... sounds fabulous but I do have a lot of outboard gear so I understand what your saying there.
Yeah, well then I'm sure this console probably works great for your workflow. Theyre a great bit of gear, just not a 1 stop shop for tracking and mixing.
So are we better off with SSL 500series in a lunchbox?
Potentially, depends how many channels you need with processing. The full channel eq of the ssl 500 series does way more than what is on this desk. For a cheaper option look into www.linkaudiodesign.de/
They do replicas of the SSL gear t an affordable price.
as a newbies wanting to get into hardware what 500 rig would you recommend for vocals and guitar
Can't go past a Neve Style 1073 preamp in my opinion. Also an 1176 style fet comp as the start of a good signal chain. What's your budget like?
Isa one focusrite!
Currently hating it because of how you have to work to get sound from your DAW/itunes come through the interface without it going through channels 1 and 2. I have clicked every button, read the manual. I don't get it.
Standard Operating Procedure; use your premium A-range line to sell lower-range (cheaper) gear to the masses. @ $2500, don't think it's offered as a mixing panacea....just another tool. That said, sweepable Q should be in the next release.
It's pretty clear it only has 4 super analogue channels. I can't imagine anyone thinking it has 8.
Not to every consumer, you may be surprised. Read the comment section. Some people thought there was more on offer here.
I ended up getting a SoundCraft LX7II in almost new Condition......man....Im Starting to thing the Medium Sized SoundCraft Consoles are the Best on a Low Budget, Unliess you can afford a full SSL, Trident or API.......I would put my SoundCraft LX7II against...the Little Six, Big Six, Mackie, Tascam 24 or Mix Wizard any day of week...this thing is taking my Masters up to a new level
Ive got 24 Clean Pres, Mixing Bay in Middle of the Board, Aux Sends and Returns, 4 Band British EQ on Each Channel and InBoard Headphone Tracking....you wont beat this unless you can go all the way up to a "High End Console"
Yeah that’s an interesting point 👍.
I used to love mixing live shows on old analogue Midas and Allen and heath consoles. They were great. Also, dedicated analogue auxes for artists in tracking beats digital headphone mixes any day of the week.
All valide points. I already had the SSL G-Comp and 2 500 SSL E-Eqs as a lot of 500 pres -so the Big Six was perfect for me. Miss inserts for the stereo channels though. Otherwise it made my life easier and more fun.😊
i have the SSL 6, review that one buddy.
Hahaha, nahh, but it's also a cool product, just doesn't suit my needs either. I'm not dissin SSL here, the six and big six are cool. I actually really like their 500 series six units too. But yeah, hope you're enjoying the six!
Maybe you should actually use it before you review it.
Lol right? All his points is valid but reviewing something you’ve never used is ridiculous.
Not a review, just an opinion. If you watch the video you would see that I actually think there's some real positives to this unit, it's just not for everybody.
If you read some of the comments, some consumers are actually unaware of the limitations of this SSL product, thinking there was actually more on offer here like more channel preamps etc. Sometimes people are need better info on a product than just the spin from a company's website or their brand ambassadors.
This system is for people that will never be able to get near or use a fully kitted out ssl desk.
Off course it’s not as good but still a huge step up for most. It’s entry level to the ssl world that is unattainable to joe blogs.
Believe you are aware of this and do appreciate you cutting through some of the hype and offering your opinion.
Thanks for the measured and rational reply.
I actually think it’s a cool, interesting piece of gear. It’s just tricky to have it as a centrepiece, without lots of additional outboard hardware.
@@diyrecordingstudio well you managed to voice your gripes without sounding like a gear snob, that’s no easy task. I’m running a slightly smaller operation (bedroom studio) than you so it seems perfect for my needs. I’ve been waiting for a mixer interface like this for years, I come from the world of 8track (cassette machines) and have always hated the idea of moving faders with a mouse. I know theres midi controllers that could get me that hands on feel.
But this seems so much more simple.
I have just bought a stereo pair of the warm audio wa -eqp so reckon it would pair nice with that.
What other outboard do you think I may need?
helped a lot! now i will definitely spare money and go for a used re capped studer 961 /962 plus apogee, ...more expensive but better sounding combo. for preproduction at home
Thanks Chris. How do you find that x touch? Ive been contemplating getting one.
@@diyrecordingstudio For Behringer quite good for that money (same faders as x32). .For Logic out of the box, Cubase (Nuendo) also mostly but buttons have some different functions. Protools forget it (HUI). So Mackie protocol good and first time i found a controller helpful. Might add a SSL UC1 in the middle and it forms a nice cheap little transportable studio along with a decent interface. Runs with PC and Mac m1. Best combined with NI Komplete Kontrol Keyboard running KK as VST within your DAW. Then i use the keyboard for tweaking VST Synths and X-Touch for running the DAW. Will do a video on that workflow. After a while its 50% gaining time and concentrating more on Sounds and music.
Hey mate ! At first I was afraid to found an annoying new video about how "bad" is the Big Six and some questionnable comparisons with less high end gear etc. I recently saw a video with somebody comparing it to a Behringer console...! Oh dear.
But to be honest I totally agree with your point of view ! I was seriously thinking about integrating the Big Six in my workflow, I wanted it ! But the more I dig, the more I see it simply couldn't help anything out in my situation (ie : no insert on every channel, very limited Eq band choices, not fully featured G bus comp and so on...).
I think It's simple when you can afford it to just fall into the trap of the magic around the brand and forget about the main point : Is it really for me ? :)
By the way, the farts got me haha !
Hahaha, glad you appreciated the humour!
Yeah I think that is the big question with gear like this, does it suit MY workflow. I think for some people, this is an amazing console, but for me personally, there's just some things i would need and some things i could do without.
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!
Great video! but I disagree in the point about needing extra gear to get the better result being a downside, I think given the flexibility of having an integrated interface, just getting a few channel compressors and eq (eg, for just two mono channels inserts) and a stereo eq and comp for the master section, you can make use of it very easily for tracking, mixing, and mastering
Yeah, as i mention in the video, there's actually a lot on offer here. And if you have a bunch of outboard gear already, this could be a great front or back end system. But, some would be buyers are unaware that there are limitations, such as 4 preamps not 8, and things like that, that won't work for them as a first time purchase.
@@diyrecordingstudio how would that work when tracking synths for example? say I fill up the mixer with synths, would I get low volume on those channels wth no preamp or just. different sonics since there is no super analog on? Cheers!
What are your thoughts on the Neve 8424?
Hahaha! Great question, same as this but more expensive and less preamps?
Thanks thats good info bro
No problem. Thanks for leaving a comment!
why oh why didnt they just make that mid freq sweepable, honestly that alone would have been a gamechanger, its the most important sonic area after all
Yessss! Couldn’t agree more. I would consider buying one if it added just that feature to the rest of the console. It’s a great unit but no control of the mids is a deal breaker for me.
No one has ever bought an SSL console for it’s mic pres. As in EVER. The internet and SSL’s marketing dept. would love you to forget that.
Sorry Rick but I beg to differ my friend. See there was thing once upon a time called tape. It added inherent noise, saturation and compression.
With a bunch of preamps that do the same like Neve; API, and the like, you are getting all three effects x 2.
So in comes the “clean” (not as clean as some might think though) ssl transistor based pres and now you half the undesired effects!
Undesired you say!!! But everyone wants saturation, and compression on their tracks, especially nowadays. We’ll that’s because now tape is gone certain genres benefit from that saturation.
However, in this lies the problem that you have missed my friend. Certain genres do want “clean, transparent preamps with extra headroom”. Take a guess which ones 🧐
As an audio engineer I would not buy this for a home studio. Just buy the uf8 and get real gear.
Yeah I agree!
4:40 wait you don't actually have this to review it?
Great review
Thanks for your video, it is good to have another view. And you‘re right, in most demo videos a lot of additional gear is being used! What I miss most with this Mixer is ADAT I/O. That would make integration with interfaces so much easier. Also, I can‘t find any information on latency and quality of drivers?! Coming from an RME Interface I am spoiled in that domain. So, not sure whether that solves my challenge of integrating my ever growing collection of synths, drumcomputers, effects and stuff. And my interest in analog summing. But: this comes closer than anything else, so despite of some of its shortcomings and the marketing spin I think this still is a very interesting product!
Wanted to watch till the end, but… too much fart jokes :/
Is a Tascam Model 12 mixer at $599 TERRIBLY WORSE than the SSL Big SIX at $2,400 for the tracking and mixing outcomes you can get?! I am upgrading my studio and watching such reviews for pro advice and tips. I use Audacity and Cakewalk DAWs.
I think it entirely depends on what YOU are trying to do. What are you trying to record and mix at the moment? I would probably mix with plugins over the tascam EQ's. Do you need a desk for the preamps?
No it’s not worse than the SSL big shit lol. You’re better off using the Tascam Model 12 as your audio interface/preamp, use SSL plugins and sum back to the Tascam. You’ll get a far better SSL sound with analogue goodies (if you want that stuff) than the Big Shit. Save your money. Buy mics, outboard gear, synths etc for the remaining $2500. Don’t be conned by this gassy nightmare BS Marketing.
Thank you thank you thank you. I did two videos on my thoughts on this mixer on my youtube page and SSL people got super mad when I simply explaining exactly what you just explained in this video on your thoughts on this product. If your curious, the video was called Another brand new overpriced product that targets people that cant afford it and I did a caveat video called SSL big six users get butt hurt.
Hi Mark, I actually came across your videos after i posted this one. There definitely IS some butt hurt going on sometimes. Case in point half of the comments in this video. Hahaha. Gotta laugh sometimes, because I actually think this is a pretty cool product, just not for everyone.
@@diyrecordingstudio LOL. thanks for watching. My video explained how I felt about it. 😎
OH LORD! This guy knows his stuff, anyway I’m hoping my ssl uf8 & UC1 will sort the EQ issues what do you think! ? £2400 hmmm clean sound ? Super quiet? SSL BIG SIX! SSL UF8 SSL UC1 Is that a good setup? I’m hoping so !
( mat central London 🇬🇧)
Sounds like you'll have an awesome setup there. Im sure you'll be happy with it. Let me know how you go with it all.
What did you expect for 3000$ ?
do you know how much an ssl channel strip costs? I have 2 taken from a 4000 G and I paid them 2500€ each.
and on the 500 series modules, have you seen how much they cost?
750 $ pre amp
1050 $ dyn
1050 $ eq
and you still miss the "lunchbox" with power, you would have only one channel for the same price as the big six
I forgot the g buss compressor alone costs 2500 $ ...
The Big Six is a solution for home studios, the price proves it and offers enormous possibilities that, however, were unthinkable until recently.
Don’t really understand the problem with the eq’s. Most modern workflows aren’t doing surgical eq on the way in and if you need to, proper mic placement/selection or acoustics should probably be something to learn first, printing when mixing takes too much time, recallability is always an issue and plugins are way more powerful. Since they’re fixed frecuencies the design screams that it wasn’t meant to be compared with the classic ssl eq. Anyway, the big six isn’t a perfect product, but maybe it’s value relies in being the first attempt to bring analog technology to all people so they can understand that the reason they don’t sound good isn’t their gear. Specially nowadays that advertisement and social networks try to sell analog products as the ultimate purchase for your artistic realization or the long kept secret to amazing sounds
Oh, I thought he'd obtained one and used it. A bunch of hot air indeed.
I think you make some valid points points re the pros and cons of the unit but to be honest, I found your laughing/smirking rather dismissive and condescending to those hobby/semi pro musicians/producers/songwriter etc... I agree that if you have a huge production in mind, the big six, while more flexible than it's smaller sibling, would still involve too many clever and brain-draining workarounds. For me, it might be exactly what I'm looking for - I am not totally sure yet but the console is definitely on my radar. I have had an A&H gsr24 for ten years but since my band no longer exists, I have been more or less planted on channels 17-24 of the A and H. So, eight channels for me would work out quite nicely. I do more or less only acoustic guitar and vocals stuff with a bit of bass or percussion and a second vocal. I guess there are quite a few of us out there who work like that and so this desk could be a good option. It's quite pricey but I guess it has superior sound over my A and H.. Anyway, just saying..
Nicolas, maaaaaate. This whole channel is dedicated to DIYer's like myself. I'm just havin a bit of a laughs in this series of vids, whilst discussing both real pros AND cons on gear. I agree with all the SSL fans here, it's a great piece of kit for some people, but not everyone. But go and have a look at the rest of my content, is choc full of DIY home studio solutions, and if you read the comments, I spend a lot of time trying to reply to people and help them make the right choices for themselves.
Maaaate - looks like you're not open to criticism of any kind..I was the second viewer to find you a bit smug and smirky. Maybe you don't do it on purpose in which case, it's a bit unfortunate for you..🙂
@@nizman1000 nick.... Buddy. This video series is called hold ya gas. It has fart memes and puns littered through the video. Its basically one big fart joke.
I think you may have completely missed the point.
@@diyrecordingstudio er....no I didn't miss the point - I get it that it's all meant to be light-hearted - and that's good and you do pull that off - but that doesn't mean that one or two of your gestures and comments don't at least come across as smirky - anyway, looks like you can't see what I'mk trying to tell you and that's already used too much time - end of!
the new SSL six whit the interface and the ONE BOTTOM USB ROUNTING from the daw for summing is fucking ground BREAKING .THAT alone is enough to no talk shit about this console.
WE need a BIG 12
YEEEEESSSSSSSSS!
I do agree with some of the points you made tho. I think it’s definitely a step in the right direction the six was so small and limited, the big six got a lot better and more features. But i think they need 1 more step up like a 8mono 4 stereo channel, with better sweepable band eqs, hp & lp filters on every channel, better adjustable adsr g bus comp. Inserts on all tracks, usb interface is fire 🔥 would love to ditch my focusrite Clarett 8pre for that. 🔥 i think they are definitely headed in the right direction! Giving more and more ppl what they want/need! Great point on tools.
Definitely give us 8 super analog pre’s for all our channel needs.
I might hold back to see what they release next! Cuz i’d be mad if i spend 3k$ and they come out with something way better haha
I agree with you 100%. There's a lot of potential here for a console that fits home studio needs, completely.
I wrote to SSL requesting the very same feature set. I'd be in for the 8 mono channels with inserts and sweepable mids.
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Hi John, I agree with some of what you've said here, but then completely disagree with some of it as well.
Yes, the plugins you mentioned sound great. AND they will give you more OPTIONS than the ssl big six as it's eq and compression sections are pretty stripped back. This was a big beef of mine with this console.
However, the mackie desk you mentioned really does not match up to the quality of EQ, compression or preamp quality of the big six. Not even close.
On top of that, yes hardware is expensive. But I can tell you this. I'm lucky enough to work on an SSL (duality) and have a wide array of outboard gear (think all the famous stuff, la2a's, 1176's etc) where i teach. The hardware may be more expensive....but it does still sound better. I know that comment will piss a lot of people off, but hardware is still better than software in SOME regards. Plugins have other benefits, but i would still track and mix on hardware as much as possible then finish things off with plugins. I always get a better result.
Thanks for your opinion and taking the time to comment.
Dude
Acustica Audio Just took the Mixer Game and Ran with it....
With Camel, Snow and Frost
With Camel
Your Getting a very well live analog Sampled / Accurate Algorythic version of a $15,000 British Triden A and B Consoles
With Snow your Basically getting 90% of New RND Mastering Processor
and with Frost your getting 90% of a brand new SSL E Mastering Strip,
now...
with any Low or Mid Level Analog Gear
your Mixes summed with those live analog plugins and final master wit those and ran though your own gear...are going to sound wayyy...more professional than "Just having that "New Low Level SSL Mixer " that does not even have the same technology or Pre s as a Full SSL G, E or 9000 J....man...that thing compared
to having your own full analog rack with some top quality Acustica Audio plugins...is a RIP OFF!!
Honestly
the Camel Plugin Bundle (Trident A and B Mixing Consoles)
Blow the SiX s away...LOL
Watched this and after careful consideration, I don't need it. There are better pieces of gear
Yeah totally fair enough. It's just areally tricky bit of gear to incorporate into a workflow i think. Solves some problems, but creates a bunch more. I don't know, not for me either.
@@diyrecordingstudio thank you for this! GAS is so real and you have to check it regularly otherwise you will be upset over equipment instead of making music
A year later, I bought it, and I will double back. It is the best equipment I have purchased. WIth 7 Synths, this is a central hub. I also have my inserts running on 1/2 to my patch bay for outboard processing. I use my ST cue for Pedal effects on my synths! All in All Money well spent. For $2299 you will be hard pressed to find another Mixer that can do all the big Six can do imho
interesting video, I believe this mixer really is aimed at the home studio owner
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
@@johnisrael5183 Poo Poo Alert....
Mackie Pee Pee 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG POO POO, POO AND PEE
Kurchoff Dynamic Poo Poo with bx 4000 pee, pee pee or 9000 poo poo pee pee or Acustica Audio POO BUNDLE with the bx Townhome pee, with SSL Native Fusion Poo Poos...will give your the same pee pee..........with way more poo poo.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Pee Pee.....vs $7000 for SSL POO COMP. SSL PEE AND SSL POO...lol...YOU PEE PEE THE POO POO...
But to be fair, it was designed for Home Studios as i understand it. So you wouldn*t expect a full functional Console especially with that price tag. How would you design a console in that price range.... you have to make compromises
Totally agree. It can be a decent bit of gear in a home studio, my biggest gripe is it wasn't the one fix all mixing solution they were making it out to be. All the promotional vids utilized heaps of outboard gear to really make it work as a "studio console". I think a lot of home studios would be better off with something smaller scale but more flexible.
@@diyrecordingstudio OK, i guess they got me then. : -) I personally are not very much into all this technical stuff , i just wanted to make music at home with a drum maschine, a sampler and some synth sometimes in a daw and sometimes dawless without an steady headegg (cabeling etc). And right now it seems to be working for that purpose. I sold my Audient ID22 and Asp800 for it and for me it sounds a lot better, although i dont know what would be the Benchmark Soundwise in that pricerange. I have it for a week right know , i can say i am impressed with the eqs but are a little disappointed by the compressors (both Bus and ChanellComps). I thought the Hardware Comps had to be much better then my VST Comps, but to be honest i like the SSL VST Comps more...
Yeah the comps are very stripped back versions of the originals. Much less flexible. Interesting hearing your thoughts, thanks for sharing!
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Skip to 2:31 if you don’t click on gear reviews to hear fart jokes 🤷🏼♂️👍🏻
FFS, they just keep coming, nvm 🤦🏼♂️🙄 lol
Ha, got im.
Do you Actually have this console? 🤔
Nope. Just an opinion. I do work on a 48 channel ssl duality though. Studied on an ssl 4000e/g series and am right in the middle of building a bunch of diy ssl 500 series units too. 🤓
Sound Craft 22 or MixWizard 16:4 or Tascam 24 way better ideas....or a Toft Audio Trident Clone....
I totally agree. I don't know whom is this really useful for. You can find analogue summers cheaper. You can find great converters (also cheaper) and pres like those of Focusrite for a fraction of the cost. And you can add outboard eq(s) that you can actually control, or EQ your stuff itb and route them to the summer. All added together for less that the Big six... and if one of them breaks, you can replace only this one piece!
So, I've already done this in my home setup. Can I record drums or a live band? No! Could I do it with the Big Six? Also no!
But, admit it, you kinda overdid it with the fart jokes.
It's for me!
I track through the mixer because of the nice pres. Then only go back when I need to analog sum for whatever reason.
I don't need it to be a a full blown console as I am just going in and out with minor compression and a bit of tone shaping. The rest is going to be done in the DAW.
But having the option to go back to the mixer to sum in some analog gear in an easy way is sweet.
If that's your workflow, there isn't a device out there for the price that offers the ease of use without it being a hassle of patching in multiple devices.
Honestly I couldn't see myself buying one. I thought I'd be interested but there's China written all over it. I'd rather just have some nice 500 series stuff at the sane price point. What was great about the smaller brother was the versatility for such a small form factor. Thanks for the video..
No probs. I actually think it's a great console for certain uses. But yeah, id also probably go the 500 series route and expand my setup over this option.
I wish you guys would stop with this bullshit about China like there just isn't anything of quality coming from there.
You're not wrong, a large amount of all our tech these days comes from there and it's great. An old stereotype that does probably need to be forgotten.
This video is like “look guys it’s a good product but look at where I can point out there little obvious marketing discrepancies! I know the history of SSL and they are being shady”! Everyone does it and if the hardware sounds good that’s all that really matters. Who cares what letter console they didn’t 100% replicate bro. Haha it costs $4k or something.. think about that.. Review the box, not the marketing team.
Thanks for a balenced and fair review
Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment Jack!
1. Anyone spending $3K on a product should know enough to RTFM first. So surprises about what you’re getting would be on you.
2. I am a UA Apollo user. I have wanted to see a mid quality analog console with A/D + D/A to use as an ADAT expander for an Apollo. This product would have been perfect if it had ADAT I/O.
3. Even without ADAT, I am contemplating it. I have decided to use it during tracking for extra inputs on a second Mac. I will still use the Apollos (X6 and Twin X) on my primary system for inputs that need Unison.
The Big Six will give me 16 inputs and outputs for line level gear for $3K. An X16 has 16 inputs and outputs and nothing else for $4,500.
While I track line level devices on my second system I will use Big Six’ 4 mic/line/ instrument channel strips as an analog front end on the 4 line inputs on the X6 using those channel’s inserts.
And I can use the 2 channels of the bus and listen mic compressors as outboard analog gear with the Apollo too.
Sure, I will have to import tracks from the Big Six system to the Apollos’ system. But I am looking at this as a workaround for the missing ADAT issue.
Overall this hits what I’ve been looking for. Just not a perfect solution.
Yeah adat added would be great. It's a great piece of kit provided you have the outboard to support it, which it sounds like you do so I'm sure it will serve you well.
Thanks for this video. For what it is I wouldn't pay retail but at best used. I have great mic pres and a killer interface so this wouldn't be an upgrade for me even if I were in the market. In my humble opinion the price does not justify what your getting. Gosh I hate to say it you may come out better with a plugins yikes lololol
Spoiler Alert....
Mackie FX 12 with ANY AFFORDABLE ANALOG COMPRESSOR, LIMITER AND EQ
Kurchoff Dynamic EQ with bx 4000 E, G or 9000 J or Acustica Audio SAND BUNDLE with the bx Townhome Comp, with SSL Native Fusion Plugins...will give your the same sound..........with way more options.....
$2200 full SSL Clone Studio.....vs $7000 for SSL BUS COMP. SSL SIX AND SSL FUSION...lol...YOU DO THE MATH....
Thanks man you just saved me $5K...lol
No problem 👍
Thanks for stopping by! What was it that made you not want to purchase it?