It’s been impossible finding a 16 x 10 20” modern display let alone the daunting task of breaking into that neck to route the cables. But I have a 20” g4 ready for when that happens.
@@TheRenegade... I can't wait to see what they will do when the reach M7 Because they have iPhone Co-Processor called M7. I mean we can also make the joke when the release the m6 that the M7 already exists.
This reminds me of a build years and years ago someone did in a standard PC case with a Pico-ITX board. They gutted an old 230w PSU, fit the Pico-ITX board inside, then fit that inside of a standard ATX case and hung a small disco ball in the now-empty PC case. All the IO of course went out the back of the PSU housing, and it ran (IIRC) WinXP - "Powered by Disco!" was the guy's tag on it.
What a GLORIOUS transformation. For several years I used a G4 like that (but with a smaller screen) and loved the design. You have brought something delightful back to life.
Someone already has done it, it's just ridiculously hard to do and requires a slimmer optical drive than the one the G4 comes with. Although I wonder if it will be any easier with the M4.
@@fujinshu looks like the M4 mini almost completely fits into the G4's hard drive compartment, I think if you split the M4 and mounted the mainboard at the top like in the video and mounted the power supply in the bottom of the G4 and extended the cable between them, there world be enough room between the two for a standard 5.25" DVD drive, usb to sata adapter and you should be good to go.
Agree on the screen quality of these older apple LCDs. I use an early Cinema Display (acrylic body version) on my retro gaming rig, and it still impresses me every time I switch it on.
I had a dream where someone put an M4 in the G4 Cube, and then another person did a G4 Cube stand for the M4 Mac Mini. Wild to see this combo not appear in my dreams though.
My dream is that somebody will develop a board that fully-integrates everything (one power cable and button, exposes all the Mac mini ports, etc), including the original CD drive.
Actually there seems to be more than enough space inside the base to fit one or two SSD inside the base. So if someone wants to upgrade a G4 to an M4, the cheapest Mini M4 with only 256GB might be enough for programs, if you add 2 or 4 GB of "external" (seen from the mini, but internal to the G4 base) storage for data. Also much more easy to upgrade later, soon as bigger SSD-storage is available.
This new version of the iMac G4 with Apple Silicon internals comes without me even being still familiar with the M4 Mac Mini. Well, now the Mini is truly a mini PC in the most modern sense of the word, that is, with a similar footprint to the ones made by Beelink, Blackview and the like.
i've held onto 2 iMac G4s hoping i could do something like this someday, this is great! every time i tried to throw them out the nostalgia just wouldn't let me
I would buy that instantly. I love my 15" g4. used it as a dd for a year or so in the early 2010's. I would so do something like this with my 15" if juicy crumb had a board for it.
I still have one of the original G4 Mac Minis when it was first released. It was maybe slightly bigger than the new M4 Mac Mini. It was just slightly larger (width x length) than a CD/DVD disc and I'd say about the same height as the M4 too. Performance wise, It was sort of a dog! I've got in a box somewhere, someplace and has not been turned on in close to 20 years.
Your singing that starts at 4:09 made me think I had somehow ended up in a Regular Car Reviews video. Good stuff. Hope you bring more of that to the videos!
That is a great idea putting the new M4 inside the old G4; but one concern is that cpu fan; I think you will need it to be on the safe side. That standard blower fan isn't that good; so you better test it out and see the temperatures with increase CPU loads.
It will likely throttle down and that’s all. I’d like to see him do a benchmark comparison on m4 unadulterated and to his Frankenstein machine. Love it btw
You should buy a spare Mac Studio power cable so you can enjoy the braided C5 Cable. Mac server farm companies sell what they dont need and it very nice.
So Gorgerous. I have the board but I haven't pulled the trigger ... yet. My iMac G4 20" works perfectly (except the dead DVD-ROM) so it feels almost criminal to make the (reversible) conversion. I hope you're making this your daily driver. It would be criminal not to.
Hmmm... with some 3d printing you could probably make a great mounting system for the M4 Mini motherboard and maybe even have room for an optical drive then.
I have multiple Apple devices - Apple watch (3), air pods, phone (2), iPad (2), TV, and a Macbook Pro, however, IMO the $600 base Mac Mini 4 does not deserve the hype. It only has 256GB of storage which is what you would find in a 2005 computer. You can easily buy a MiniPC from multiple manufacturers with a comparable Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU, 1TB of storage and 32GB of memory for $650. Many MiniPC's support Occulink, have a display port, a 2.5GB LAN, plus a few USB 3.2 ports.
10:48 I'm still using the original Soundsticks which came with my Powermac G4 Quicksilver. Someone tried modding the woofer but failed so only that's been replaced. But the sticks sound very good!
Watching this on my very own M4 mini, and it happens to have the same Pro speakers hooked up. I use a PowerWave converter for them. They really are nice speakers for their age.
@@GetOutSmore Sure. I don't know if I would be allowed to post a link, so I won't try, but it is by a company called Griffin. It is also an old product at this point and may be hard to find, unfortunately. It is also overkill just for using those speakers, as it has many other interfaces and features, but options for adapting the Pro speakers are far and few between. Griffin made another one called iFire that relies on a FireWire 400 connection to provide the extra power those speakers need. The PowerWave just plugs into the wall.
How I wish someday you would do a video with a new M4 Mac Mini adapted into a 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM), along with a more modern screen; maybe from a relatively recent 13” MacBook Pro display (or even the screen from a 2015 Macbook). The TAMs original screen wasn’t too bright or too great for today’s standards. It was only capable of showing only thousands of colors as opposed to today’s Mac screens with millions of colors. I’ve had a TAM in storage since around 2002. That was after I installed the Sonnet G3 upgrade and after a while apparently something overheated and the TAM became a very big brick. Such a shame, because the Bose sound was very good.
awesome project! but please isolate the power supply! its only a matter of time before it unsticks itself then potentially shoot high voltage on the adapter board!
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Unrelated but you should edit the about this Mac to have the icon have a iMac g4 and instead of having it say Mac mini have it say iMac G4
Now we just need a 5k display retrofitted onto it!
Great job as always Mr. Retro.
Yeah that was my thought too. Then the outer shell is truly merely for the vintage visuals.
It’s been impossible finding a 16 x 10 20” modern display let alone the daunting task of breaking into that neck to route the cables. But I have a 20” g4 ready for when that happens.
Agree . the M4 supports 6k so whats the point of bolting on an M4 when the 20'' will only support 1650 x 1050
Surely there’s a 20” 4K display
I was thinking the same thing
I am glad someone else has verbalized the G4 M4 connection. I thought I was the only one! 😂
Too bad we'll be unable to draw parallels with PowerPC Macs anymore when the M6 comes out
@@TheRenegade... I can't wait to see what they will do when the reach M7 Because they have iPhone Co-Processor called M7. I mean we can also make the joke when the release the m6 that the M7 already exists.
@@TheAppleExperence They'll still probably call it the M7, because the co-processors are now in the same SoC.
Cant wait for the Mac M5 Pro wich heats up your whole house
Probably would be better to call this the iMac GM4, personally I would use the M4 Pro for style and POWERRRRRRR 😂😂😂
I’m one of those people who thinks the iMac G4 is still the greatest desktop design that Apple ever made.
Not gonna lie, I really liked the Mac G4 Cube's look and design. Can't say the same about it's performance though!
iMac M4 Cube
I personally prefer the transparent colors of the G3 series, but the iMac G4 is close behind
@@Marrianne415 Well, they have brought back color choices for the Apple Silicon iMacs, so that’s something.
@@erickleefeld4883 true, but I prefer the transparent aspect more
_Sees a Sunflower iMac powered by an M4 chip._
"Shut up and take my money!"
This reminds me of a build years and years ago someone did in a standard PC case with a Pico-ITX board. They gutted an old 230w PSU, fit the Pico-ITX board inside, then fit that inside of a standard ATX case and hung a small disco ball in the now-empty PC case. All the IO of course went out the back of the PSU housing, and it ran (IIRC) WinXP - "Powered by Disco!" was the guy's tag on it.
I know what I'm doing with a Raspberry Pi next weekend
What a GLORIOUS transformation. For several years I used a G4 like that (but with a smaller screen) and loved the design. You have brought something delightful back to life.
Challenge: bring back the optical drive…
Someone already has done it, it's just ridiculously hard to do and requires a slimmer optical drive than the one the G4 comes with.
Although I wonder if it will be any easier with the M4.
@@fujinshu looks like the M4 mini almost completely fits into the G4's hard drive compartment, I think if you split the M4 and mounted the mainboard at the top like in the video and mounted the power supply in the bottom of the G4 and extended the cable between them, there world be enough room between the two for a standard 5.25" DVD drive, usb to sata adapter and you should be good to go.
Extreme challenge, swap out the factory 1680x1050 16:10 20" panel and driver board for a 20" 1920x1200 16:10 lcd panel and drive board.
Now if only Juicy Crumb would bring out a version with internal ports too...
Now you need an M4 upgraded Intel DTK (which was originally P4 powered.) G4-P4-M4 trifecta!
Nah give us an M4 Intel Compute Stick
Throw in an iPhone 4 while you’re at it, add the A4.
Agree on the screen quality of these older apple LCDs. I use an early Cinema Display (acrylic body version) on my retro gaming rig, and it still impresses me every time I switch it on.
I had a 17” G4 iMac, such a great design! 80 Gb hard drive lol.
That is freakin' awesome. The G4 iMacs still look ridiculously cool, even over 20 years later.
I had a dream where someone put an M4 in the G4 Cube, and then another person did a G4 Cube stand for the M4 Mac Mini. Wild to see this combo not appear in my dreams though.
That's a nice double upgrade right there, the G4 got better hardware and the M4 got better power buttons.
Once I saw that the Mac mini m4 existed and how small it was , I immediately was waiting for this to come out
I cannot begin to express how much I need an M4 Cube.
This would blow 2002’s socks off!
My dream is that somebody will develop a board that fully-integrates everything (one power cable and button, exposes all the Mac mini ports, etc), including the original CD drive.
I admire your bravery for using a brand new m4 mac on an old mac.
I love the new warranty jingle!
it's amazing how nice that display is 20 years later.
The hard drive in that thing is probably bigger than the mac mini itself
my exact first thought when the m4 mac mini was announced was
"this is gonna be great for making old (dead) computers into apple silicon machines"
The headbanging part was amazing
My mini came today but won't be seeing such an exciting deployment.
As someone who likes to case mod stuff for funzies, this is something that I’d legitimately use on the daily, as opposed to being largely a showpiece
I'd love to see the Mini M4 innards put into a Mini case from 2006-2009!
I like how your background is properly scaled rather than the LTT pdcadt studio.
The new power button position alone makes this an upgrade to the M4, but also the g4 iMac is one of the best designs of all time.
I've always loved the design of the iMac G4.
just a sad day, but this videos comfort me so much
Actually there seems to be more than enough space inside the base to fit one or two SSD inside the base. So if someone wants to upgrade a G4 to an M4, the cheapest Mini M4 with only 256GB might be enough for programs, if you add 2 or 4 GB of "external" (seen from the mini, but internal to the G4 base) storage for data.
Also much more easy to upgrade later, soon as bigger SSD-storage is available.
Now you’ve gotta do the reverse: jerryrig a G4 Mac mini into an M4 iMac
these G4 macs are super pretty, and i love seeing people find use for them as the original hardware sadly yet inevitably fails.
All we need now is to put the optical disk drive back in and it would be perfect
This new version of the iMac G4 with Apple Silicon internals comes without me even being still familiar with the M4 Mac Mini. Well, now the Mini is truly a mini PC in the most modern sense of the word, that is, with a similar footprint to the ones made by Beelink, Blackview and the like.
Great! Here's another challenge: get that optical drive working!
Ever the showman “the g4m4 running sequoia !”
Nice! you beat me to it. Im watching this video on my Mac Mini M4 connected to my 20" iMac G4 and I do agree that it's amazing.
i've held onto 2 iMac G4s hoping i could do something like this someday, this is great! every time i tried to throw them out the nostalgia just wouldn't let me
Tim is now rolled up like a ball in a corner softly weeping...
I would buy that instantly. I love my 15" g4. used it as a dd for a year or so in the early 2010's. I would so do something like this with my 15" if juicy crumb had a board for it.
I still have one of the original G4 Mac Minis when it was first released. It was maybe slightly bigger than the new M4 Mac Mini. It was just slightly larger (width x length) than a CD/DVD disc and I'd say about the same height as the M4 too. Performance wise, It was sort of a dog! I've got in a box somewhere, someplace and has not been turned on in close to 20 years.
The iMac G4 now has M4 Mac Mini inside™
Your singing that starts at 4:09 made me think I had somehow ended up in a Regular Car Reviews video. Good stuff. Hope you bring more of that to the videos!
hello fellow RCR enjoyer!
This is an amazing idea. It was when you did it with the m2 as well.
I spot a Casualties sticker and then later we get a quick hit of Vredehammer? I mean, I was a fan before ... but dude. Heck yes. 🤘😈
Need JC to make a new board to mount the M4 Mini board to fit cleanly inside the G4 case.
"everything just works!" the imac m4g4 todd howard edition
Honestly just now need a custom board with a dock for the mini to slide in and out of.
apple didnt had the chuzpe to make the front logo a powerbutton for the full apple experience^^
That is a great idea putting the new M4 inside the old G4; but one concern is that cpu fan; I think you will need it to be on the safe side. That standard blower fan isn't that good; so you better test it out and see the temperatures with increase CPU loads.
It might be fine, considering the M4 is designed to run fanless anyway.
It's okay... M4 MacBook Airs don't even have a fan
It will likely throttle down and that’s all. I’d like to see him do a benchmark comparison on m4 unadulterated and to his Frankenstein machine. Love it btw
With all that room in there, I wonder if you could take some the layers, distribute them a little, and put the DVD-ROM drive back
"let's void ourselves a warranty" should be on your next t-shirt!
I appreciate you and I had the same old computers with new parts idea! You deserve more subs :)
Surprised you didn't take care of that fan prior, but I guess now's as good a time
It is noisy, wishing I had done the same to mine when I had it apart. Will do that in the near future.
@ActionRetro, I had a feeling these new Mac minis would find lots of use in hardware mods. Well done!
A possible 21.5" "mini Display" would be great. Promotion, 4K, $999
A robo cop"I lllllke it!"
If you make it they will come.
I want one too.
Great video!
The funny thing is you gained back the one thing the M4 Mac Mini removed: USB ports.
I am thinking about putting an M4 Mac Mini in a non functional PowerMac G5 that i have sitting around! Cool Mod!!
You should buy a spare Mac Studio power cable so you can enjoy the braided C5 Cable.
Mac server farm companies sell what they dont need and it very nice.
You should just run a thunderbolt cable out the iMac to a dock simplify the setup!
So Gorgerous. I have the board but I haven't pulled the trigger ... yet. My iMac G4 20" works perfectly (except the dead DVD-ROM) so it feels almost criminal to make the (reversible) conversion.
I hope you're making this your daily driver. It would be criminal not to.
10:53 I appreciate the interlude
C’est absolument génial d’être parvenu à cette prouesse !! Merci de l’avoir fait, c’est iMac est magnifique 😃 !
Now I want to see someone making this with attention to details.
Adaptive lumber support. Must have NOW for all my lumbers!
Hmmm... with some 3d printing you could probably make a great mounting system for the M4 Mini motherboard and maybe even have room for an optical drive then.
I have multiple Apple devices - Apple watch (3), air pods, phone (2), iPad (2), TV, and a Macbook Pro, however, IMO the $600 base Mac Mini 4 does not deserve the hype. It only has 256GB of storage which is what you would find in a 2005 computer. You can easily buy a MiniPC from multiple manufacturers with a comparable Ryzen 9 8945HS CPU, 1TB of storage and 32GB of memory for $650. Many MiniPC's support Occulink, have a display port, a 2.5GB LAN, plus a few USB 3.2 ports.
Someone needs to hack the About this Mac to show the original G4 Mac (and I would absolutely buy a M4 version of this computer)
3:51 Taking apart a device doesn't void warranties in the US (at least rn). The messing with the cables sure is enough though
I’m getting an m4 for my my juicy crumb this Christmas. I really thought you’d be able to just put the whole thing inside but I guess I was wrong
planning to do the same thing with a dead 2006 17" imac, already have a 1440p screen in there, just need to save up for the m4 now lol
11:02 That's so funny
I helped my fiancés dad install NMS on his Mac Studio this weekend since he wanted to "play some cool sci-fi games"
The G4 M4 Mac mini…a true marvel of modern technology!
The new Mac Mini might be smaller but damn it looks so stubby whereas the original felt well proportional.
4:30 and it has fan spin. Louis Rossmann would be proud.
I knew you were going to do it, but I didn’t know you would do it so quick. Good job, now we all want one!
Wow! Maybe try to get the m4 pro Mac mini in there as they use a different heat sink
What a Cool Build now should I put that into my G5 !!
Ever think about modding this M4 mini into the enclosure of an all-in-one Performa, iMac G3 or eMac? I’d love to see that happen soon.
You just know that a senior engineer was like “new Mac mini board needs to be exactly this size.” “Why?” “No reason, make it happen”
oh I have such envy! I would LOVE - nay REJOICE - having one of these.
My cinema monitor is still fantastic too!
Love the G4-M4
I want this so badly. And I'm too much of a klutz to put it together myself. Howls for moon. Three wolf howls.
I loved my iMac G4 back in the day... I wish I still had it so I could make this mod! Great vid!
You beat me to it.
But great job.
I might change the screen to a studio display?
If thats even possible
10:48 I'm still using the original Soundsticks which came with my Powermac G4 Quicksilver. Someone tried modding the woofer but failed so only that's been replaced. But the sticks sound very good!
10:40 - you listen to Vredehammer! Skål!!! :D And all the best from Norway 8)
I was rewatching the prior build cause I was hoping you'd be releasing this soon. Want one myself.
I came for the G4 and stayed for the watch tan 😎
Watching this on my very own M4 mini, and it happens to have the same Pro speakers hooked up. I use a PowerWave converter for them. They really are nice speakers for their age.
Can you elaborate on the converter? I can’t seem to find it.
@@GetOutSmore Sure. I don't know if I would be allowed to post a link, so I won't try, but it is by a company called Griffin. It is also an old product at this point and may be hard to find, unfortunately. It is also overkill just for using those speakers, as it has many other interfaces and features, but options for adapting the Pro speakers are far and few between. Griffin made another one called iFire that relies on a FireWire 400 connection to provide the extra power those speakers need. The PowerWave just plugs into the wall.
How I wish someday you would do a video with a new M4 Mac Mini adapted into a 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM), along with a more modern screen; maybe from a relatively recent 13” MacBook Pro display (or even the screen from a 2015 Macbook). The TAMs original screen wasn’t too bright or too great for today’s standards. It was only capable of showing only thousands of colors as opposed to today’s Mac screens with millions of colors.
I’ve had a TAM in storage since around 2002. That was after I installed the Sonnet G3 upgrade and after a while apparently something overheated and the TAM became a very big brick. Such a shame, because the Bose sound was very good.
I'm pretty sure i also watched someone put an m4 Mac mini in the Mac cube
I was thinking of how one could do this last night. Amazing.
I don't care what anyone says. Nothing beats a powerhouse PC Tower with a powerful graphics card, and as much RAM as you can stick into your PC.
awesome project! but please isolate the power supply! its only a matter of time before it unsticks itself then potentially shoot high voltage on the adapter board!
Warranty song is a bop!